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Lion's Fans, it's time for the podcast you've been waiting for. The Detroit Lions Podcast Post Game Show. Hey, howdy, hola, and welcome to the Detroit Lions Podcast Episode 544. The official Detroit Lions Podcast Post Game Show. For Reddit, I am the dashingist of dashing, Chris's. And with me is my dashingist of dashingist ashes, my good friend, and co-host. How are you doing, my friend? I don't know if I'm like the dashingist of dashing ashes, but, you know, it's a pretty small group. I saw you go scrambling for those title ledges. I saw you scramble for those beverages, you were dashing. Indeed, got to have that Coke Zero. That's the mandatory minimum for doing one of these things. Mandatory middle. I myself am working with something called the Shock Treatment, a nice blue drink, frozen drink, made with Everclear. And that's what I wanted to know. It's delicious. All right, we don't think else the 10 matters. Oh, man, that's all I want today. We're going to talk about the game. You may or may not have noticed the Lions just put a curb stomp on the titans, and they showed us their tits. That was great. We'll also cover Coach Campbell's post game presser with a little roundtable discussion. And as we love to do, we are want to do, we will take your calls. We got all that going on in a whole lot more. Are you ready to rock? Ash, let's get it on. Let's get this off and break it down. How about a beautiful voice? It's the call of the wild, as they say. You hear my dogs insane when I do that. Oh, man, Jacksonville has got green bait tied right now, which is really fantastic. Nice, Jordan Love, Jordan Love pulled a groin. It's probably not the first. Probably won't be his last, but he's out. They got Malik Willis in there. This could be the showdown that the Slack chat needs. It could be the Malik Willis against the Troy Lions show. That should be fun. Yes. Oh, that'd be good. Good times. We got some good FTP callouts in the chat. Good to see that folks, Aaron, one of our members. Hey, people around me at the Bucks game watching my phone while I stream in the Lions game. Aaron, that's awesome. Awesome. James said, "Who?" I see that as well. Good call. What a game. What a fantastic game. Lions fans and football fans in general. I can feel why you were a bit nervous in that first quarter. I can see it. It starts zero, zero. Everybody's going to put it out there, but boy. It's two professional teams, man. They're not going to show up and just let you win. It's not how this league ever goes. Any given Sunday is 100% true. Again, we got an example of this team. It's not that team. No. They did not do the thing. A disturbing number of people still seem to be programmed to feel like they're going to do. Every week, every time anything goes even a little bit wrong, it's like, "Oh, here we go again." It's like, "No." "No." "No, bad." "Bad." And now my dogs are really freaking out. Rob, great game, but we still need a pass rusher. I'm feeling pretty good about the defense right now. I don't say we don't need one or couldn't use one, but you know what I can say? Great game period. Great game period because that was an absolute curb-stomping ball-dragging humiliation of the Tennessee Titans. 52 to 14. And this is the kind of game. I mean, this goes back to Caldwell. And the Caldwell era is when I could have been even before, but we'd get ahead a little bit and then, "Oh, they take their feet off the gas." And then they lose 70% of those games that people are freaking out. They did not take their foot off the gas. And they just locked those Titans in the face, man. And if you saw the tweet, you don't want to refer into it. But absolutely just buried it against their tonsils and didn't let them breathe. It was fantastic. 100%. Yeah. Love this kind of game. People need to get out of that. Yeah, people got to get out of that Mr. Miyagi mindset and realize that we are Cobra Kai right now. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the leg. They swept the leg right there. That's exactly what you want to see a football team do. Because like you said, like there were people calling for Hendon Hooker to come in at the beginning of the third quarter. And like from the score, sure. But he throws two interceptions in the third quarter and suddenly that's a game again. You know, and that's the absolute last thing he wants. Like we're watching, you know, it's tied 27-27, Green Bay right now. They're in the red zone. What's Malik Willis going to do with that, right? Like we, this is information we do not want to find out about Hendon Hooker in a game where at one point we were up by three or four or five scores. You know? Yeah. We don't want to find out. We don't want him to get a pressure test in that way. Like just come in in the fourth quarter and just hand the ball off and everybody goes home. Nobody gets hurt. Yep. That's Hendon Hooker's job right now. Ideally, we never find out if Hendon Hooker can play. Here's, so I had something for him. I got to give Frosty Cakes a yellow Frosty. First in the line's ever beat the Titans. Also, this game could have been an email. I think that's beautiful. I love that man. So let me tell you that let me put it this way. I'm going to yes and what you said about Hooker on the field, right? And this is where like we're picking nits in the continuous improvement lane here. Okay. So this is not being negative about what we saw by any stretch of the imagination. I just want everybody to be clear on that because this was a sound. Nothing matters for the butt. Yeah, yeah. Well, this is a sound win. This was Adley's sound win. No, I would have liked to see everything from the buttest ball, right? Yeah. Though I would have absolutely loved to see them play with the same kind of intensity for a driver to with Hooker at the wheel because why not stick it further down their throat. But number two, give Hooker the real kind of take off the training wheels, give him the real deal and let him go out there and run the offense because you never want to do that when you're behind trying to win a game for the first time. I'd love to do it here where you know what? An interception. Who cares? We'll put the golf back in. We'll start running the ball. Okay. My counterpoints. Yeah. How many reps do you think had to hooker has with Almond Ross a Brown? I think you give him one. I think you get one really probably never practiced with this man. But again, I think he gave him the receivers. He's comfortable with it his first game. And that's that's Guy's leg. If if if Maurice Alexander had been dressed tonight, that's a receiver, he's probably thrown to a lot. You know what I mean? Like he had Tim Patrick and Alan Robinson and the basically the practice squad guys that he started the year throwing to. That's who they gave him for the moment he came in. However, he gets thrown in the service. He's going to have to figure out how to throw to Almond Ross a Brown and get reps with him. And I'd like him to do it against 52 to 14 lead. Then against 21 21 game or 17 21 game when we need the final drive down the field to win. I don't want that to be his first time. So I think putting him out there with the starters for. For at least at least one possession, right? To give him that those real live fire and the. Look, just run a possession offense down the field, right? Even even if you need a guy to run a four minute drill, right? Let him run that like in real time against real players. I would like I would really, really love to see that. And I think that would be a great education for him. Again, I'm picking nits on a massive win for this team, right? I'm thinking player development. And you're that's so hard far up the Maslow's hierarchy, right? I mean, we're, we're, we're touching. We're putting the star in the top of the pit right here. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we are definitely star on Christmas treeing the Maslow's hierarchy when we're dealing with that one. Yes, Jack. I would say with players, I wanted to see come out sooner where they're running backs, honestly, like those guys, they take so much and much heat and they're so important. You know, like let's, I was kind of hoping thinking that Craig Reynolds made me should have gotten a little bit faster. But again, like it's, it's we're sitting here whining about like very specific things in the wake of the most dominant Lions victory that probably either of us can remember off the top of our heads. So, you know, there's really nothing to complain about today. It's like two scores on defense without even Hutchinson against an NFL team. And say what you want. It was still an NFL team. Like how many starts does Mason Rudolph have? He has had a defense in the NFL refore touchdown games in the NFL. That has happened in his career, you know, and like Calvin Ridley, like, yeah, they couldn't cover Calvin Ridley for their drives. But it's not like he ended with 400 yards on the day, you know, like they, they buttoned it up. They figured it out. They made adjustments. That's what I want to see in a game like this is like the one thing that the Titans were able to kind of script in. The Lions took that away as the game went forward. Yep. Yep. So like zero, like, no, I don't have no notes because I always have some. But you know, it's just because I'm that guy. That's the only reason I have any notes for this team right now. Jack Casey, going to Lambo next week's stadium. Want to walk out on site report? Yes, we do. Yes, we do, Jack. That would be freaking awesome. We got Frank the tag in the chat. Why are we talking about hooker? Did you see this offense support? It gives Montgomery Saint Brown. Frank, the tank. Sewell gold lions. Sewell that beast of a block on the, I think it was the Montgomery. He just, he just shoved his man seven yards deep into the end zone and laughed at him once he was freaking dying. Fuck the Packers just won on a against the worst defense in the league on a field goal, which I saw that. And I'm said, there it is. Ryan, that was the one I saw. Thank you. Riley, thank you, sir. Lot, lot, lot going on and on. Thank you. Click like or you're a Tim Boyle. The family that vacations together stays together. At least that was the plan. Except now the dastardly desk clerk is saying he can't confirm your connecting rooms. Oh, wait, what? That's right, ma'am. You have rooms 201 and 709. No, we cannot be five floors away from our kids. Uh, the doors of double locks, they'll be fine. When you want your connecting rooms confirmed before you arrive, it matters where you stay. Welcome to Hilton. I see your connecting rooms are already confirmed. Hilton for the stay. Listen in. "Starbucks, it's a great day for coffee." Don't let Tim Boyle turn the heat down and hit that like button. There was Mr. McFufu. You were the one that called the game when you feel golden. It's the worst defense in the league. That is fantastic. We got Don Burr, the biggest troll of Chicago Bears in the line. On the line, love it. Love this, love this, love this. Okay, so Ash, as we watch and we wait, we're going to get through the Dan Campbell presser, and then we'll start taking your calls after that. Let's, I just want to talk about something that you brought up in the chat. I want to get your level of seriousness because it made one of my eyebrows go up. Okay. We got the deadline coming up for the trade. We had a really good audition here from a live look, and audition from a team, if you will, called the Tennessee Titans. And Artina Key put some really good reps on tape out there, including the first of the game, the first play of the game, the sack on golf. He's almost a 71.6 rated PFF edge rusher. What do you think? Is this something that you were honest about? Maybe I'm engineering a trade for a guy like this? Or are you just like, oh, I'm towing everybody's line and just pulling their strength? Honestly, like, Artina Key has a whole career of not being particularly good. So I have trouble kind of thinking it's a good idea to off of this one game. He's been about 70 PFF moments since 2021. Like, that's not bad. I mean, when you think about what you could get. If you're asking me, is he better than the guys who were on the field today, where I had to look up their name because I couldn't identify them by number at the start of the game, probably, you know, but it's like, are you going to give up much for Artina Key? You shouldn't. Like, he made us look real bad. So my main reason to pick him up would be so that Green Bay or Chicago or the Vikings can't. Because apparently, Artina Key has some detail on Taylor Decker that made his day pretty easy today. And that's actually a thing I am a little concerned about here. Because this is not the first time this year that someone has just turned Decker kind of inside out a little bit. You know? So sure, you know, like, that's the level of guy I would expect them to pick up. Someone who kind of has a career that's sort of on the same level as like a Charles Harris or a Romeo Okwara type guy, like with Artina Key, that's what you're getting. Is someone where like, ideally, this person would not be starting for you. But he's probably better than us three edges in, you know? He's definitely better than our third edge right now. So he's just going to PFF, right? I'm just going with PFF. And we know that this is the number one ranking offense. He is the top rated of the front seven on PFF rankings as of right now, probably before this game. But I mean, after this game, it'll probably only go up actually after the what he did. But he's a top ranked of the front seven on the number one defense in the league. I feel like that's something we've spoken for. Still the number one defense in the league. Not. Well, finally, the ratings haven't yet been updated. You have a couple other teams that have to play still. That's what I'm saying. Jump just saying, you know? And I haven't even looked at what they did. Like, whether they've been so out of games, the teams were just running against them. And that's a thing that takes your total yardage down. And that's the thing that the league, for some reason, still uses as its main defensive ranking stat is yardage. But like the Titans are awful, you know? There's every year, there's three of the top five teams against the pass are teams that got blown out two thirds of their games. So that the other team wasn't throwing the ball, you know? And that's kind of how I feel about this Titans defense, particularly after watching them here. The guy I was actually interested in seeing today was Harold Landry, and Penne Sewell made Landry kind of his bitch, really. Like, over there are two edges. That's the one that I would have a lot more interested in taking a look at from a skill set perspective. Just he's, you know, he's a guy with a lot more skill, frankly. Like, I know Arden Key did get drafted reasonably highly, but like he's just, I didn't like him in college. I don't like him now. It's probably bleeding through. I can't claim to have watched every game of his entire career and had like a real in-depth opinion on this. If PFF says he's great, you know what? In the situation we're in, if he's available, that's good enough for me, dude. Oh God, I was able to get off a dirty cheaters tweet today. Love it. That's one of my favorite things. That guy, that guy is one of my heroes. He was friggin' tanked. And he's still tanked to this day. I'm certain. All right, so Lions went out there, really, really put the business on them. And it was in a really crazy way. Sam Laporta lost me some money, two yards short. Why couldn't he get another two out of that last catch there? Sammy Boy, I could have used that for that couple of bucks. So the Lions burned all my bets today, and frankly, I don't care. I want to give a shout out to Trevor Nooski. How about our guy, huh? How about our guy? Hey, whoo, he is stepping up. This is the kind of thing you really hope. Like you lose a guy like Hutchinson. Trevor's not an Aiden Hutchinson, okay? So we're not saying that. But the way he stepped up, a couple of Trevor's rotating in and out, that's what you need. That's the kind of play you need from your guys that need to step up because you have an irreplaceable guy. You're going to have to play differently. And that's one of those ways that you can gain some juice when you're big guys down. Yes, says Ash with a very swift yard. I concur with what you just said. There's no question. I don't know what to say to that. Oh, man. So yes, that's wise, as Big West says, weirdest game ever. I'm just going to look through the lion's stats right here. Jared Goff, 85 yards on the day, 85 yards, yet 52 points. Like what? Who knows? Who knows? Mode squad. That tells you it's a good special teams day right there. Yeah, I didn't put Sonic and Knuckles up. Sonic and Knuckles is going up tonight or tomorrow. I promise it shopped at Detroit Lions Podcast.com. It's a freaking cool shirt. I'll have it for kids too because they'll love it. But it's a fantastic shirt. Fun, fun, time sure. I'll get that up. I swear tonight or tomorrow, and I'll tweet when it goes. So you can just hit us at DET Lions Podcast on the Twitter, and you'll know when it goes live. Ja Gibbs, here's another one that's a little funny. And I guess it's the one big run that you got, the 70 yarder, but 127 yards for Ja and Demo, 33 yards, only 33 yards for Demo. And I feel like he had a 100 yard game. I mean, he just churned out so many. Those were 33 hard freaking yards. Yeah, well, that's always his job. You know, that's what the Lions have done with him since the beginning of last year. They've given him every tough carry. Basically, occasionally, it gives his end. They'll let him take a short yardage one. But for the most part, it has really been David Montgomery in that, you know, thunder lightning. He's the thunder every, every time that you need that. Like, it just, that's, that's. Can we ask who has his parents for carry though? It's always not great. He's got an arm, again. Montgomery, did you see? Somehow it's not perfect, I'm sure. He bullied that ball. Like, if you watch how he got his throwing motion, he was like, but it was this wicked freaking spiral that was bananas tight. 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So credit that team, that team came out and played hard. I really felt that. And we figured they would. It's not like we didn't. So credit to them. And I know it didn't look that way, but we did come out to fight. And that's what we expected. I felt that we were going to be ready. We were going to be ready. And it's like I told them, that's what champions do. And you come out, you don't care what time of day it is, what the records are, what the surface is. You come out and handle your business. And we did that. Now, we did not play our cleanest ball. We really didn't. However, when you have four takeaways on defense, you're five and five in the red zone. And you have the returns that our special teams unit had, put return and kick return. Then you can get a lot of production and things sway your way. So, but it's a hell of a team win. And once again, this team knows how to complement itself. And all three units are humming. We're pretty dang good. Yes, absolutely it is. Absolutely. And you know, it's really just about the one that's in front of us. I don't feel like it's something we're going for the next record. We're just playing ball. We're trying to play as clean as we can. We're trying to be as productive as we can. The players, you know, they're urgent about it, man. They're accountable to it. And they want more, you know. And they know when it's good and when it's not, you know. So that's a credit to them. And we still have room to improve, which is great. We've improved a ton. But man, we're just, those guys are taking the game plan and they're executing it. And it's on to the next one. Can you mention the four takeaways today? You did five a couple weeks ago, like 10 in the last three games. Yeah. Beyond just having playmakers on that side of all, what has sort of led to this, a frenzy of takeaways that you had. Well, look, we emphasize it. And we're really, we have. It's not like we don't emphasize this, but sometimes it's a different way of doing it. And so every day, I mean, we do a takeaway circuit and no different than we do ball security on offense. That's how we start once we're out of warm up. And you emphasize and you try to take it as serious as you can. They need to be like game reps and it's punch outs and it's strips. And because look, the interceptions have come. You know, those things will come. And if the ball carriers loose with it naturally, those will come. But man, the ones you got to work on are the punch outs. Man, the intention to it. Find and locate, hit it, get it out. The grab in the front of the ball, grab in the hand, pull and scrape and we work on that. And but I've said this before, man, that stuff's contagious. It's contagious. Every team I've ever been a part of, a player or a coach, man, they start coming in bunches. And once you start getting the taste of it, guys want, they want to be a part of that. And they start watching the guy next to him a little bit more, a little more focused. They start doing it and pretty soon it does. It becomes contagious. Just like you start turning the ball over a lot and you get tight. And all of a sudden, man, it starts going the wrong way. And those come in bunches too. So we're in a good place. It's credit to AEG and those coaches over there. And that's big. You know, you get four takeaways. It's going to be hard for us to lose. Now, the value of special teams is just kind of a leap to have, you know, folks big returns and doors to have a big one. A big one that had to make you smile. Just kind of see that production for special teams. That sure did. I told the team, you know, Leaf got a game ball in there, obviously. And I told kind of just the story of Brad coming to my office in 2021. You know, and early spring, we were fresh on the job. And he said, hey, take a peek at, take a peek at this guy from Tennessee. He's really a returner kind of gadget. You think there's a place for him on offense and watched about 10 plays. And I was like, yeah, absolutely there is. You know, take this guy on heartbeat. So and it's been a blessing ever since to get Leaf here. What a pro he is. Guys loving coaches, players, man. You talk about reliable and he's consistent. And the way he prepares, the way he works. And he does everything for us, man. He can play all the positions in offense. He's a dynamic returner. That was good to see. Man, it's been a while since we got some big ones. And he's just, man, he's the best. And so that was great, man. Teams fired up for him. And I thought those guys blocked their rears off. And the rest was up to him, you know, he just, he turned it on and found it. Would you see him come more guys? Well, was it offensive plays or returns or blocking them? Would you see him from those 10 plays? Yeah, the returns, it didn't take but a couple of returns. But on offense, it was some of these men, they were, they'd bring him in as a, like he'd run some of these deep pylons. Fast motion, deep pylon or the sail routes. And it was just like, whoa, I mean, his speed showed up. And then knowing that really he's a returner, I'm like, there was a, there was a naturalness about him. And you can't hide from the speed, but, but it wasn't like, he's, well, he's just speeding. He looks, man, he's a fluid athlete. And it just, at the time, it was, I mean, you know, it was, we desperately needed it. And you, you also can come in on how, you know, you picked up on him and he's done so much with team yet. You could do it with three or four other teams. Just pick them up, cut them, move them around and do that. Happens in the NFL. You know, it's just sort of fight your place sometimes. Here's his ideas. Yeah, and I tell guys all, go talk to Leafs. Some of these young guys, I'm like, you want to know reality in this league? Go talk to him. He'll give you perspective. We got a couple of guys that way. So, you know, you don't ever know. You don't know what is it going to take? Why did the things happen they did? And there's a lot of things that go, it could be circumstance. It could be coaching staff just doesn't see the value. Could be, he's too small. You know, it could be, well, he's a returner only. It could be, well, at that time, he wasn't playing with confidence, right? And I'm using him as an example, but there's so many factors that go into it. And I know this, everything for him, it's been perfect. And it's been the right mixture. And the environment has been great. And he's been outstanding in his confidence level. And everything he brings to us as a player. But, I mean, he's really, he's everything. I can stand up here and go, you know, I could go all day talking about Leaf, what a study is. And, but he's just, he's one of those guys, man. He's one of those guys. And the first two lay in the shot. The first interception, complimentary football. You have to hit from Levi and Trevor makes the pick. Those are two guys that are playing larger roles because of injuries. You're seeing that across the border. Yeah, we had a lot of guys that are picking up slack, you know, and they know that they're not just there to be a placeholder. Like, they're there. They've got an opportunity. And they, like we talk about all the time, you got to hold the line. It's your job. It's your time. And, you know, you can't be a liability. You can't be. So, there's a ton of guys, you know, what you talked about it. In the Walski, you know, we brought in Al Muhammad. We had Isaiah, you know, a germ had to go out and play a ton of defense, you know, because Rod Rigo heard his ankle. You know, so there's just, there's a ton of that everywhere. You know, we talked about JMO being out. And, look, we didn't miss a beat, you know. And now, some of that is because special teams, right? We never really even in the flow of an offense, necessarily out in the field. But it was, you know, you go five to five in the red zone, like I say, then you don't have to worry about it. So, but yeah, our guys are doing a good job of stepping up when they get an opportunity. Dan, you've been saying for a while that your loved kids was this close. Mm-hmm. Getting out and getting free. And Montgomery also had some software, Dr. Ronan, and they went so, can you sort of speak to the value on a day when you're not your sharpest, as you said, that you can still lean on that run game? Yeah, it's kind of, it's bittersweet because you know you weren't at your best. And so, there's just a little bit of that empty feel. But on the positive side is what we talked about. Well, yeah, but when you have a, your special teams unit plays that well and is that productive. And then you do those little things, the red zone offensively, the takeaways defensively. Well, you didn't need it, you know? You didn't need to play your best there. You want to, and we should. But it's just another reminder, man, when we play, because we play with three units here. And when a couple of them are cooking at the right time, it just, it can bail out one of your units. And when you get them all three playing at the right, you know, the right time, then I think you're very hard to beat. So, listen, I like where we're at, we're in a good place. It's win number six, it's a perfect setup. We get to go to Lambo this week. I'm already excited. I know the guys are. And so, it was good. That's a good win. How bad was Malcolm's ankle? Yeah, we'll know more tomorrow. I mean, obviously, he didn't finish the game, so that's not good. But I don't think it'll be something like, you know, this is going to take the rest of the season. It's nothing like that. Justin, and so good, thousands of winter deals are at Nordstrom Rack stores now. And that means thousands of fresh reasons to rack, because we get the latest trends for way less. I've been looking for these. The best deals go fast. Save pig with up to 60% off Sam Edelman's Sorrell, free people, Colhan, and more cold weather finds. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. All right, there we go. Missed my mute button. Sorry, guys. I didn't need to get the whole Everclear Slushy Slurp going in there. Can't help but a drink. We're professionals at this podcast. Can't help but drinking that cool. No, this is just for those that are asking. It's called a shock treatment. It's a Honolulu blue drink with a mix and Everclear. And it's absolutely fantastic. He gave him at Wet Willies, which is down in Mobile, where we first not invented, discovered those things. And I got Riz trapped on the wrong side of a parade, so he got stuck in the hotel for about two hours this year to pick up the mix. So thanks, Riz, for your sacrifice. All right, man. Okay, Dan Campbell out. Well, good press conference there. You could tell he's got some real love for Leaf, man. My god. Yeah. Well, it's this kind of guy. If you look across the threads of this team, it's the guys who did bounce around the league a little bit that he loves, you know? And some guys who, maybe they're not, 6'4", 250 pounds. You know what I mean? He's wanted JRM on this team since the day he showed up. Sorry, one of my dogs decided that they need to be on camera. Right now, what's up? Yep, that's chilly, everybody, being, you know, super disruptive here. I don't even remember what I was saying, dude. All right, that's cool. We can roll on. Shock trauma was my main bowling ball for a decade. There you go. They said golf's gonna go on, so we'll get golf in here. I'm gonna go through just a couple more stats before we're so rudely interrupted by coach. We're hitting those. We have, let's see, we got the running game. Number one, catcher was Laporta with 48 and needed 50, my friend. You've let me down. But I'll continue to talk about players who let me down this game. Kirby Joseph with an interception that wasn't a pick 6. That was a good return had he picked 6 that. And I didn't get my return. Kirby, you got a little, you got a little lazy there. I'm glad AG yelled at you. Sillyness aside, sillyness aside. I want to just talk about Kirby Joseph. There was a moment that was on TV for the folks watching the game today that I think you really, really need to take to heart and understand. Kirby's always out there, clowning, man. He's having a great time talking. You see him after like training camp. He's talking to people. He's all just swagging, having a good time. But you saw him get yelled at after the touchdown early in the game by AG. AG was all up his ass on that one. And then a little bit later, after he gets the interception, they go to the sideline. And Kirby's there talking to AG and he's locked in. He's absolutely locked in talking to coach. And this is something where you can tell the difference between kind of, you know, a player and a player. He comes in how seriously he took that. And when he was talking to coach and how they were just all business, man, all business, no clowning, no messing around. He knows when to work and he knows when to play. And you could see it that he was absolutely 100% putting in the work. But I love that he could flip the switch and turn to play right away. That's good stuff. And it's a really, really good sign from Kirby. A fan fave, one of my faves as well. Him and Branch are such a great duo. But to see that kind of ethic as he's there with a coach, that's a really, really good sign. Agreed. Like that's all you can ask of a guy is when they make mistakes and they get coached hard. They don't curl up into the fetal position and die. You know what I mean? And we've had a lot of shrinking violets. As it is on the Lions over the years. That's been a thing that has been an issue with a lot of our guys. And it is kind of rampant around the league. Like there are a ton of guys out there that do not like getting coached hard. And that's why whenever we're doing any kind of pre draft coverage, the first thing we need to figure out about a guy is, is this a person can be a Detroit lion? And that's not from a physical skill set perspective. That's a mentality because they will figure out what to do with anybody they get a hold of that has any physical capability at all. If they're the right guy to be on this team, like let's look at what they're doing with Nowaski. I'll freely admit, I did not watch 10 games of this man's college tape or any previous experience he has doing anything. But I suspect he has not spent a lot of time on the edge. You know, he's willing to go out there and do it. Man, like it's, you know, what it is, they need someone to do it. And he's a body on the team and they got to put somebody in that position. And he's kind of thriving right now, like not every play. He's not an all pro. He's not Max Crosby. He's not Trey Hendricks. And he's not these guys that we're absolutely not going to be able to trade for because no team is insane enough to get rid of a guy with that skill set. But he's in there doing a job. It's not the same job that we had an all pro guy doing. You know, not a reasonable ask to try to get him to. No, he's out there. He's on the edge. They're still stopping from. They're still a proficient defense. And last week he had a sack. This week he had a pick. And it was a ridiculous pick that had nothing to do with his skills other than just, he was the guy standing where the ball got thrown and he made the play. But he did make the play. It's just like, I have so much faith in these coaches sometimes that it just sort of disturbs me, but it has to be the person who will take the coaching. Otherwise, it doesn't matter like we saw with not to harp on this. But like we saw for the first couple of years with Jameson Williams, where you got to listen or what they say doesn't matter. And that's Holmes, man. That's Holmes making the the guys that he grabs. And he brings in and how he talks about how they love football. And they love the game and their character. He brings in those guys that want to develop. I mean, he does the right kind of research. And it's funny because it's a different kind of thinking about how you pick your players than just about anybody else. I don't care about character. I want a guy that plays, he's a ball hawk. He's a ball hawk or, you know, he's a machine. He tears up an offensive line. He gets to the quarterback no matter what, right? Jalen Carter wins only two or three linebackers in every draft that fit our size profile. Yeah, fuck off. That's no wrong way to do this. Yeah, but it's how everybody did it. And Holmes is like, I got good coaches. I will get a great player out of a good player as long as he cares, as long as he cares about the game. And that's what the lines have been able to do is put together a group of people that care about the game, that care about each other, and a set of coaches that knows how to develop players into the best they can be. And then you put in freaking Albert Einstein. Let's go get Jared Goff in here real quick. There's probably, I don't know if I've ever been a part of something like that, you know, where we start with the ball in not only a plus territory, but in the red zone. I don't know how many times four or five probably. And, you know, we did our job and punched him in for touchdown. That's what we were asked to do today. And did that well. And, you know, with that being said, we score 52 and they're still like, and I know that sounds like kind of hollow after scoring 52. But there are some things that we can do better on offense when we weren't down in that red area. Seemed like every time of day. It's got the wing wheel on. You guys immediately respond whenever they return. It gives us 70 yards. It's just how impressive are you with your guys ability to jump back on them after every kind of small. Yeah, yeah, we respond well. We knew that they'd come out fighting. We really did. I mean, they're a solid team and they've played a lot of these games well early on. But we know if we just kept staying on them, they would wear it down eventually. And we're able to do that. And yeah, I think the stuff with Kaleef is pretty remarkable. When we're starting the ball down there and then Dorsey has longer turn as well. We get interceptions taken down there. It's like, you know, our job is to go another 30 yards. That's okay. We'll do that and score. It would be a part of being where six guys, six different guys scored. That's not for you guys? No, I don't think so. Yeah, no, that's another stat. Yeah, I don't think so. Do you speak to just the versatility? We talk about all the time, but when six different guys scored touchdowns for you, I mean, that's some weapons that you have on your side. Yeah, we do. We really do. I mean, and yeah, you can go right down the list. Obviously, we know everything about Saint Brown, Laporta and Gibbs and Montgomery. They score a ton. But like, Kaleef, obviously, you know, he has the punt return and then, you know, the touchdown offense. And it's just like, you know, every week it's somebody new. And this week was his. You've been here a whole way with him, you know, when he came in. So I guess it's how awesome is that to see Kaleef have a game like that? Yeah, I guess his former team. Pretty cool. He was our guest captain this week. We did that every week. He was the one this week, which is, you know, typically against your former team. Dan does that for those guys. And yeah, it was awesome. I mean, he's just been so close to breaking them through the whole year, it seems like. And today, those guys were blocking welfare him. And he's making those returns. He says electric as it gets back there. And they kept kicking it to him. So he kept making them. You mentioned they would come out fighting. Yeah. There were a couple of drives. They, I think they had three sacks. Was it a little bit of an up over there? They really are in for a game. And then it switched just like that with the returns. Yeah. Did you feel that way? We knew that though. We knew they'd come out, come out hot. And we were doing our best to match their intensity. And they got up on us earlier there on some of those sacks. That D line is an impressive group. And did a good job. Did a good job there early. And then we settled in. And again, you know, this game, you know, games throughout the year, offense is winning the game. Defense is winning the game. And in this game, it was special teams. It seemed, you know, in our defense with all the turnovers. And then we would punch it in. But full team effort, again, it's hard to kind of put into words. Because I don't know if I've been a part of something like that. But it was absolutely a team effort. And the special teams kind of carried us. We were going to part of Sunday. We had retouched downs on 85 for the yards. Yeah. I'll take it. You know, I've had a lot of games where I've had a whole lot of yards and a lot of touchdowns. So, you know, those even themselves out. 172.22 touchdowns the last four games. [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] Yeah. Each game has been different, right? Like, I don't think I can bunch them all into the same category. I think what we've done a good job, though, is getting in the red zone. We've scored touchdowns. We really have. And we always talk about getting that first first down. If we can get that first first down on offense on a drive, I think there are numbers of getting it in the end zone are pretty high. So, you know, focusing on that, you know, starting off fast, starting off on that first down or second down, or third down, converting. And then go from there. But we've been good in the red zone. And that typically leads to a lot of points. [INAUDIBLE] I got some favors by, I don't know, over 12. But in the NFL, that means very little generally. Yeah. [INAUDIBLE] See really good teams. I think the Baltimore beat the Cleveland by the point or something. I've lost a game favorite, but more than that. So, yeah. Yeah. So can you just talk about how important it is to win games that you are supposed to win when you were supposedly better to win? Yeah. If we would have won by a point, we'd be just as happy. They all count the same at the end of the year. Yeah. So I don't know if we care how much we're supposed to win or not. And people saying, you know, we're careful for a trap game. We were ready to go. We were geared up, ready to go. And all week, we were saying, you know, we're going to be ready. And, you know, they came out and fought us. And we had to fight back and blow it open there. And it was a good one. That's my German. What's your assessment of David Gutter? David Montgomery's pet? That was a dart. That was an absolute dart. And his dance was good, too, after. We've been cooking that one for maybe a couple of years now, too, and a good moment for it. And Sam wasn't really like that open. He was open, but, like, that had to be a good throw. And that was an absolutely well-thrown ball. You're nervous at this point. There are so many guys on the team. I know. We're just throwing. I know. I got to be careful. But no, that was a great throw by David. Thank you, guys. Thanks again. All right. There we go. As I was saying, we've got plenty of quarterbacks on the team, maybe. And Bob's ankle. We could just let him sit. No. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Saint Brown. Got Montgomery. We got Fox. What the fuck? I guess there's no shortage of former quarterbacks on this team. Yeah, it's fantastic. And boy, I mean, you look at how they open up the playbook and don't care about opening up the playbook. Because you've got to think, like, the entire playbook is basically open now to Demo and to say Brown, as well as the golf. It's bananas. It's absolutely bananas what these guys can do. And with the magician, the Einstein-haired, crazy man, Ben. Ben Johnson has the mad scientist behind that. Mine that offense is freaking fantastic. I'm going to open up the phone lines. Never find an organization he's happy with as a head coach. Oh, gosh. Yes. Yeah. May he never consider the idea of head coaching, because he could go somewhere and not be happy as a head coach. Let's just say, let's not even consider that career president. That's the most often, that's almost the guaranteed outcome of becoming a head coach is getting fired within two and a half years. Yeah, 100%. All right, let's get into the phone calls. Hey, caller, what's your name and how much have you had to drink? Hopefully it's less than 52 points. What's up, that's all, man, you hear for the comeback? Well, it has some very important information to pass on to us today. Oh, absolutely. I had the sauce. I ordered KFC. Listen, this sauce takes your taste buds on a journey that feels like it was stolen from one of Dan Campbell's motivational speeches. It's like if I cut down and a spicy smackdown had a love child, you dunk a tinder into it and it's like, bam, you know, you just hit with flavors that say, like, we're not here to play. We're here to motherfucking win. Only to be reminded that you're sitting on your couch three bites in debating if you've just found the condiment equivalent of a Kaleef Raymond hunt return touchdown, you know. This is, I don't know. Come back. It'd be a huge, you know, Jmo's feed and Monty's power. I don't know if a slack meme has ever come this alive in my life. No, say it has not. Man, okay. So the backstory for this, just for those who are not, you know, do not have the privilege of being in the slack, Doc was asking in the first quarter, if anyone had tried this sauce and then our whole slack chat came up empty. This is a, this is a fast food condiment that none of us had tried and he was like, all right. Can I do it quickly? I was like, okay. Don't tell us if it's good. Let me add one piece of context. I'm sorry. Ash's comment here was, let me know because my wife's out of town this week and I'm going to be eating poorly. That is true. I forgot. I had said that. Yeah. Go ahead. So, and then, you know, and he was like, all right, I'm going to point the bullet and I'll let you guys know. And I was like, don't let us know in the slack, please, please, Doc, call into the post game show and tell us there how this sauce is. So the man has delivered in a way that was requested. Thank you very much, sir. This will be the best call of the day. I don't think we should take any more, but I'm glad I could be there for you all answer the game. Listen, we got to fire everybody. All right. Ben Johnson scored way too fast. What the fuck is Aaron Glenn supposed to do? They fit scoring way too fast, given the office too short of a field, he's got to go. Brad Holmes has yet to trade a seventh round pick for Max Crosby, he's got to go fire everybody. So, dude, I think people are mistaken when they saw a G yelling at Kirby, it wasn't because he was mad at Kirby, he was telling them what to say to Ben Johnson about fucking scoring so fast. He was like, go give that motherfucker a rash and shift for me because I got a coach of fucking defense again, goddamn this guy. Yeah, I was saying in the middle of the first quarter, I was like, man, this defense is going to be gassed by halftime and then very rapidly, I was like, okay, I may have given them too much credit for how long it was going to take to cast the defense because it was just rapid fire, man. Like they were getting like literally 30 second breaks between drives. It's a miracle they did as well as they did today. They don't usually get it back together after a period like that. Hey, Zeke, can I hit you with a stab? That's Calvin. Oh, go ahead. All right. Sorry. This came from Lion Eyes. I think this is a good one came up in the slack. The 55 Bears and 48 Giants are the only other teams that throw less than 100 and score over 50. No teams in the Super Bowl era have done that. Zeke, tell me about the mindset of a man who can score 52 points and throw 80 some yards. See, listen, I'm one of the worlds of the best psychiatrists. We all know this. It's a debate. 100% To put up that point in that few yards, you've been through a lot of shit, you know, trauma is your middle name at this point. You don't know your birth parents, you know, you've been through a lot. Or if you didn't know them, they were terrible and then they've ruined you as a human. Oh, man, I've had too much to drink to do this. I got you, bro. I would say, sir, you have had the perfect amount to drink to do this. Thank you for calling. Perfect. Perfect. Before I go, I got to say, rest in peace, silver pants. I don't think we will ever wear those again. Yes. Um, I can tell you, the comeback sauce, you know, where they get that though, they get my comebacks loss off of Malefler's mom's tongue, but, you know, that's how it goes. All right. We will talk to you later, my friend. Yes, sir. Thank you, brother. Oh, fuck the Packers. Forget that. Got you. Yeah. All right. Never forget. I'll say cause I went on the horn here. We're starting off fire. This is really good. If you're going to be on there, which you're going to be very shortly, turn down the background noise. Hey, caller. What's your name? How you feel about 52 big ones? Oops. I called you a little ones. Hey, there we go. Hey, caller. How you feel about them? 52 big ones. Great. I think if you turn down in the background, man, it's getting a little confusing. Yeah, we're getting a lot of feedback here. Yeah, I got it. There we go. There you go. How you doing, man? All right. Good. How you doing? Good. Good. What do you got for us? What's happening were Dan Campbell, when he first did his press conference, he's done exactly what he said. Run the ball, all three phases, and they wanted to run him out of town right away. Isn't that something? That's him and golf, right? These guys were terrible. Golf couldn't even score. It couldn't even throw 90 yards today. Get rid of him. Everyone was right. Why didn't we draft Malik? What's going on? I know. Isn't that I think, really, if you look at it, golf was probably the best trade we had because we didn't have to go for another quarterback in the draft and develop. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That was always the best case scenario. Yeah. 100%. And like there were guys in our Slack chat that like I think are probably mad that the Lions won today just because of these stats and luckily like those people end up leaving the Slack chat when you say ridiculous things like that, people tend to challenge you on it. And then if you, you know, the sort of person who takes that personally, eventually you leave, you know, but yeah, man, like it's the way that they won this game is the way they said they were going to win games. You're absolutely right, dude. And they got to keep on. I mean, I mean, it was sort of funny when I was with you guys in the second game, everybody was down on them. I said, it's just the beginning season. They don't start playing football to the four fifth game. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, realistically, the first game is absolutely just a toss up chaos. The second game is barely controlled chaos. And then they start finding kind of a grind. It's with that shortened preseason. It makes it really, really tough and it screws up the early part of the season, which for a couple of teams will mess up their playoffs, right? It will genuinely mess up with what their playoffs looks like. And when you're about to this point of the season, it creates, you know, if you were to take two losses early that you shouldn't take in because of your team, it can really create a different, a completely different vibe around what you are as a football team with your fans, even with your coaches, because you're looking at the stat line, right? That key number line. And sometimes people start making bad choices because of it, it's, it's bananas. But this team, this is a, this is a focus team that's, that's put together well. The players, the front office, the coaching staff. I mean, all the way, I mean, everybody on this team, I was talking to some of the folks in the back office side of the team, just this morning. And I mean, they are top to bottom, an organization that is attached to one another. There's, there's no person who's too small or too big in the entirety of this organization. And it's, it's really, it's really well put together. I have a lot of credit to Brad Holmes to what he did, particularly after taking over that GM role from what's his face, Quinn, and, and Sheila, her, her ability to really get a grip on this. I mean, man, I mean, you get Spielman, you got Sheila, you got Rod Wood making football decisions and all the other stuff that's going on. I mean, it's pretty fantastic how they've been able to build this organization. I remember when they were crying at Sheila's office and they're in the complex, you know, I was like, oh, she's going to make a decision to happen at all. All right, brother. Hey, we're going to bounce. I like having an owner. All right. Thank you, brother. Go ahead, Ash. Thanks, sir. I like having an owner that is as involved as she is, but not more involved. She is as involved as she is qualified to be. You know what I mean? She wants to know what's happening with this multi-billion dollar thing she owns because of course she could. It's the most valuable thing she will ever own. I'd like there's, there's some teams in the league where the owner seems to actually not care. And that's not good. Like you also don't want the David Tepper throwing things at fans and visit or stay visiting stadium. James Jones, right? Yeah. Where he's way too involved, actually making football decisions and or his kids are. At this point, we're not sure exactly what's happening, but yeah, like this is everything about the way this works is how things are supposed to work. There you go. 222 Rodwood Drive is freshly repaved. Collar, what's your name? How do you like taking 52 big ones today? This is Jack. Jack. Two big ones pretty, pretty hard. This is also, this is also the guy who's going to call you walking on a Lambo next week with the W. All right. I love it. That's awesome. I appreciate you stepping up to do that, man. I love, I love the man on the street stuff and I hope you have a couple of beers choked down and brought, right? Get another one big one in there and then give us a full report. Yeah. Yeah, I got to. I've had about eight and a half, nine coolers lights at this point. So it's going to get good afternoon. Nice. So you've had three drinks. I got to. Oh, God. Ashley. So you've had three drinks. Oh, it's just making fun of your beer. Yeah. Sorry. It's just a reflex from, but that's what my dad drinks. I always give him crap for it. Of course, I'm sitting here drinking Diet Cokes. So, you know, she'll free the fire back. Sorry, Jack. It's just Dan issues got projected onto you. Yeah. All right. Good girl. What do you got for us, brother? Sorry about that, Jack. I, too. I'm going to be on two opposite ends of the spectrum today. I think for the first time in a long time, we are on the winning end of the game like this. If you've been a fan for 15 to 20 plus years, I was with my wife today. I'm like, damn, like I'm staying here. I'm watching every second of this victory just to see us taking to a team. It's hard. That's probably happened when I'm, I can kind of one hand how many times that's happened in my lifetime. So that was awesome. That's taken away. I think on the obvious side of things, you know, on the long, long time listener, maybe second or third time caller, I think, I think after this, I mean, I think it's clear we need some sort of pass rusher here to go all the way. I'll leave you with this. I'm also a Cubs fan. So you know, I'm a pathetic creature when I've been a lifelong Cubs fan. You love it under dog. I got you. I do love it under dog. I couldn't have cheered for more that identified as not a dog. But when the Cubs finally had a chance to go all in, they traded their prospects and they went in and they won, right? And I think I'm not saying we trade too first to get Crosby or a Garrett, but there's clearly a hole there if you want to go all the way. And man, this type of thing doesn't come around really ever for many teams. So I think like in my mind, I don't want to end up being the brewer of the NFL. Honestly, I don't want to be the Packers in the last 15 years of the NFL never going in to try to be that team that goes all the way. I think we need to trade something to get some sort of pass rusher, whether it's as a various bit, just something to be able to take that next level because this team is crazy as it fucking is, we're the best team in the NFL right now. I don't think there's a doubt about it. But I think when it comes to beating that San Francisco 49ers, that Kansas City Chiefs you're going to need somebody who's going to be able to take on one or two guys and get to the quarterback. And we don't have that right now. And I think this is a very, very rare opportunity. It's also the first time I've ever trusted in the GM probably since the OFC of any sport in my life. So I trust in Brad Holmes to get it done, but I think we need a pass rusher. That is my take. I'm curious on what you guys have to say about that. Well, did they find the right kind of pass rusher for the right price? I'm with Campbell. Welcome to Detroit. Let's do it. Ash. Absolutely. And I'd say the right price depends on what pass rusher that is. Like if you tell me they throw a sixth out there for Art and Key, all right, let's roll. You know, if they throw two first round picks in two three day or day three picks for a Max Crosby. Great. Let's do that. You know what I mean? Like it's depends on who they get what I want them to pay for. But in terms of like, like, yeah, it's hard to look at the defense and say they don't need a pass rusher with a straight face because they would very obviously be better if they had one. And I've always been a big fan of Howie Roseman of the Eagles because this is take on. That is, you should do everything you can do every second to win every game. That's what he wants. And he fired a coach for not doing that in the fourth quarter for draft position at the end of a season. You know what I mean? Like that's the guy who had been to the Super Bowl two seasons prior decided to lose a game so that they would have a better draft pick for him the next year. And he didn't get to see the seeds of that draft pick. Like, that's, I've always been a fan of that and like, I would like to see them do something. And what it is just, like, we don't know what's actually out there. We don't know anything in terms of what options they really have because nobody wants to trade were asked rushers. That's the problem with trying to trade for a pass rusher is that's the thing one you need when you're rebuilding a bad team is the pass rush. So that's the last thing they're going to want to get rid of at the trade deadline also because the trade deadline so early in the NFL that if you trade a good guy and you lose seven straight games, you are absolutely not going to have a job the next year. That's just the nature of the NFL. They give guys three years tops to win some games and taking a step back a step back by getting rid of a premier player like that, like, you might not be there to make that second first round draft pick if you trade Crosby as the GM of the Raiders right now. In fact, I would say you almost assuredly are not going to be there when that second first round pick gets made. So why would you do that? Because your only way to hold the job is to have a miracle second half of the year where you win six games, then maybe you're employed again next year. But if you like given someone else those two first round picks doesn't help you. Unless it's house, I think I would love to see the Dan Campbell mentality out of Brad Holmes. I know they're so similar. The chips in the middle. Fuck it. Let's just do it. And I don't mean like all the first round picks in the world. But I mean, if we could get somebody for a second in a 2026 fourth, let's fucking do it man. I mean, how long have all of us been waiting for this? Who knows what's going to happen next year? The core is so strong. It's so solid. But as we saw this year, I mean, you never know what can happen injury wise, you never know what can happen with the rest of the conference believe. Again, I'm not, I'm not the guy coming the table. Say, let's get next cross me. But I mean, if we have to throw on the second round pick to get the guy, let's fucking do it. Let's go. It's the chips in the middle on our own 20. Let's do it. This is the thing. And this is where the argument really kind of sits, right? And it's the same play. Dan Campbell does the fake punt from the 20. He's a he's a loser when it when it fails and he's an absolute superstar when it wins. It's the same play. And that's what's going on right now. And and this is this is gambling the entirety of the franchise on that one play. And I don't want to say the entirety of the franchise, but depending what, what, what. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm with you. I'm not the guy. I'm not the, no, if that's anybody else, I'm not the loser calling in here saying we create three first for Max Crosby, but I am saying, and we can get that guy like a Trey Hendricks in who demanded a trade earlier this year with the second and the third, like, you know, why not? I mean, did this team have that many holes that those types of pigs are going to fill? I don't think so. I'm open to the other idea too, but I think like, you don't want to be sitting there watching the team that goes to the Super Bowl from the NFC being like shit. Yeah. You should have been a peaceful Tim has a great peaceful Tim in the chat has a great one here. You don't trade for anybody equal or less than Pascal. That makes zero sense. I think that's absolutely right. Because Pascal is your backup next year, hutch is back, right? So you want somebody that's and I mean, Pascal's a starter right now when he's what he's healthy, right? But you want somebody that's at least that, especially if you're putting capital down the line and get in and paying for this person for a while. You want somebody that's at least that good right now. So I like that peaceful Tim, right? Man, I'm looking forward to hearing from you next year or next week. And hopefully it's not. That's weak. I might be not as coherent. That's okay. That's okay. You're open to that. My home. I'm living it, brother. Open to it. That's what the show is built on my friend. I know. I've been living for four, five years now. Dang. Thank you. Appreciate that. But now I want just my whole thing. Don't put yourself in danger. And it's usually like that first quarter or first second quarter or the second quarter is pretty good time to kind of watch your surroundings get used to it. But when you can be that insufferable prick of a fan, if we come out on top of this game. And again, don't get yourself hurt, but that's this is the look. If you look at what the team did to the Tennessee Titans today or what they did to the Dallas Cowboys, they bullied the shit out of them. This is bully ball. This is a team that's gotten beat up humiliated, kicked when they're down for years and years and years. And I've talked about it. We're the least hated team in the NFL right now. We are going to be no matter what we do, we're going to be the most or one of the top 10 hated teams by next year, if we win the Super Bowl, the year after win the Super Bowl will probably even be the top five of the most hated teams. Earn it. This is when you have all the capital to be able to earn it, be an insufferable bastard to those Packers fans, because we've dealt with them. I have been to so many games where Packers fans came to Ford Field and I just wanted to know, uh, be that guy, but don't get yourself all I care for some Chicago teams. Like I said, so I get that mold. I could be that guy and trust me, I will be that guy this weekend. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you, brother. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you guys. Take care. See you. All right. There you go. Keep going. The phones are banging today. Just like we like it. Hey, color. What's your name? How much of you had to drink thus far? So you can answer the question. Oh, you're probably one of the only guys out there that knows what it's like to put 52 big ones on someone, huh? It's so many ways I could take that. It takes every one of them. And the dirtiest one is the one I mean. Hey, man, you know, the only thing about fucking as a winner is I can't get through to the got dog on lines. When we was one and six, I was on the first ring. I can't even get through your head. I'm sorry. You know, I need the mowline. I need the mowline. Damn it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, you do. Big red from big, big blue phone, have a little blue phone and that's my phone. The mofo. Shaped like a toaster. The mofo. Shaped like a toaster. The mofo phone. Yeah. Great. Freaking win today. Oh God. It was good. It's a weird one though. Like for a long time, right? I've wanted to just we did it with the Cowboys, but we had, you know, we had some other things going on in that game that hurt this game. We just freaking put it balls deep into the other team, but it wasn't like how I know how to enjoy and cheer that kind of a thing, right? It's like, I feel like every time it's like, yes, yes, we absolutely murdered them, but wasn't kind of like, I don't want to say it is satisfying, but it's not as satisfying as like, like, look at them in the eye while you're banging their girl from behind kind of domination. You know what? I mean, it wasn't that. But we still did it. So I don't know. Are you calling? Are you calling the Tennessee Titans a bunch of cut what's going on here? Well, I guess I'm going to realize that was terminology we were using on this show. I guess I found out, Mo, geez, at this episode, it's sponsored by, no, I are leather. Royal Oak. I don't know if they're so round. Yeah. I got to look them up actually now, I'm curious. Those are good times. I'm not. I'm not going to read some of their products again. You drink that you drink, Chris. The drink. Yeah. They're still alive. Oh my God. I love it. You got to be over 18. Let's see. No, our leather. That's my home. It's called shock treatment and it's from wet willies and you can order the mix. It's basically ever clear mix in ice. And it's fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Okay. Where do we get the blue color from? It's in the mix. It's the wet willies mix. They have one that's so the drink I usually get. It's the two most power, of course, right? The two most high octane drinks they've got. They've got 32 daiquiri drinks all lined up of all different flavors and styles and they have a mix of one that's called call a cab and the other is called shock treatment and shock treatments. The one I was drinking here, it's blue and they mix the two. It's red and blue and they call it Superman because it's like those same kind of colors. I have like two of those and I'm just rolling through mobile, man. It's a good time. It's in your bowl. People don't know. That was great. That was the great advertisement to when a brick and damn Campbell that is press conferences. All we hear is, it's thought I muted it. I asked for you, Mo, every time, I mean, like, let's talk about it, whether it was like six wind teams and you would call in, all we heard was the gurgling of a bomb on the other side of the line. I was like, damn, it's some reporting, if a reporter in there is like really thirsty. I'm like, damn, oh, man, hey, Mo, let me ask you, Oh, I just really fell off since he went Indian. Hey, hey, Mo, let me ask you a football question because we're supposed to be talking football. Right. Terry Arnold. Right. The one of those I've said for a long time about cornerbacks is you don't see what you got to, like, year three, right? Because going from college, the NFL is a hell of a leap. My guy has started every game this year, couple of penalties. I get that, but he's handsy. What do you think? What's, what's your take in Terry on so far? I think he's coming around. I couldn't stand the, the, the groping and the, then the passing of friends. So I think he's got some good coaching going on. I think he's, he's coming around, man. I think we're going, we're going to pan out with him. He's really, really good. It was kind of shaky for a minute because I was like, that's why I called him Terry on me to Arnold, you know, cause you kept roping the players. He, he grabbed them by the pads. Yeah. They sent him to HR or he got his sexual harassment training done, he's allowed to come back to work now. When your famous corner back, you can just grab him by the pads. They like it, but he's good. He don't need to be giving some good coaching. And he, it looks like they working with him and they had to talk to him a little bit, but I think we're going, we got a good one. Let, let Brad cook, baby. That's right. That's right. Flounder. Thank you for the super chat. And he's right. Who wouldn't be thirsty? Look at a Dan Campbell. Detroit life podcast after dark. That's a Biden wire leather and him, let me do the old work. I was that kind of pills, the guy that did pillow talk, he'd be like, we have a shout out to a long distance midnight dedication to a woman who is loved by Terry Arnold. Her name is Mason. I've been missing your touch. My last podcast was edible, baby. You can't, nothing like it. Oh, man, I've, I would love to do DLP edibles. I would love to do DLP eddies. It's got to be somewhere you can do that branded, like there has to be a way to get that done. Calvin. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just say, if there isn't, we just had a million dollar idea and we need to get rolling on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you guys, yeah, for sure, like if you, if you got a hook here, meet, we got to, we got a way to move delta eight is more than delta flight number, right? Yeah. All right. Hey, Mo. Thank you for calling in again, man. Press for that. You make, you make me so happy every time I talk to you. Always, man, Lions, nations, dope as hell, DLP dope as hell. Let's, let's enjoy this six and one, this is 1957. I want to give a yellow a shout out really quick to you and all my, my, my, my buds in Atlanta. Um, in mid November, there's something going on. Um, I'll talk about it in a little bit. I just want to guarantee, I want to make sure I get the, the date right and it's not been called off. But one of our boys Q is actually going to be in a fight I'd love to get the crew together and go show up and support him in his, in his, in his, in his, uh, in his fight. Goodbye. He's a good boxing. Like he's a great dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some local, some local punching. Be fun to see. Yeah. I'm with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I love my people. Hey, caller. What's your name? How's the field to have 52? It's Jonathan Texas again. And it feels amazing. No. What do you have 52 of? Um, I mean, at this point as we're ended up with a few interceptions. There you go. Okay. Oh, it's got to feel good. So what do you think, man? I mean, we walk out of this lion's game. It was a weird kind of sense, but we walk out, we stomp the team. Where do we go from here? What's next? What did you like about this game? I like that again, we're sucking in balls like my baby mama, like a Minnesota milk. Just keep turning the ball over. That's how we win games. It's fantastic. Kirby out there, disappointed me without the, I mean, the interception was fine, but he didn't get the six cost me some money on that one. Um, you know, we, we, there's areas to work on, right? There's areas for improvement for this team. You know, and we're already the best team. We're still getting better. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I just got it. Not enough defensive touchdowns. I mean, yeah, I'm on the, if I are a g bandwagon, if he can, if he can't turn in more defensive touchdowns, I, I might, we might be having to have a talk. This is unacceptable. Like, I will say, I, some of you have been calling this a trap game and I've been saying it all week. When you're a team this good, there's no thing in the trap game. You can just win those games. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yep. And they did. And I feel like it's hard to find yourself in a trap game when you have Dan Campbell as a coach. And if you do, I feel like it's Dan Campbell that was the one that fell into the trap. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I really, I don't think he's going to allow a team to kind of sit back idly and take a team like Tennessee for granted, which he obviously didn't. Right. Because they definitely pulled this one, pulled this one together. But I just don't think that he's going to let a team lorax their way to victory. Even like when you think about if we've got the first seed wrapped up in week 16, we're playing our starters for the rest of the season, right? He's not going to arrest those guys. It's just not who he is. It's not how he approaches the game. Yep. Yeah, he's going to push. We're going to drive. That's what today showed that we're just going to keep our foot on the gas. Yeah, 100%. And that again is something we haven't done as a team. And that's pretty for a lot of seasons and a lot of different regimes and it's cost us games. And I see like the knuckle like Chris Christie, I saw some other dope on Twitter today. It was posted in the slack crying, I don't know the lions are running up on other people. Yeah. And we will continue to do that as long as we can. We'll never ever stop. So just don't expect it, right? There's no mercy rule that we've we've been on the other side of this seven ways from Sunday for 60 some years, 70 years, whatever it's been. We're not. No, we are full speed 100% time and we're going to beat some ass and I'll say it again. I will beat your raps. I will what? Oh, I couldn't do it that fast. It's about that. Damn it. That hurts. Yeah, no, that's what this this team is all about and they're going to put some people in the dirt and there's going to be some hurt feelings. And I think there's probably a couple of people out there that still underestimate who the lions are. And those are the ones that are going to cry the hardest when they get beat down. And next week, we're going to walk in a green bay. We're going to show them who we are again. We're going to buy a kneecap, kick him in the nuts. That's probably why I love state out because they got a safe is going for next week. We kick him in the nuts and the Minnesota baby, mama, will she be there? You won't see as you got to work, but who's going to be sucking up balls then? You know, I think we got it covered. I think our defense, no, wasky can't have nowhere with it and that was just ball. Yeah. Yeah. No. Wasky is as a ball. What a great, what a great story. This cat is right. And I should have known because what's Riz was what's his name, Riz. Riz was cheering for him, but was like, boy, he doesn't. He's not doing it. He's not it. And I should have known. I should have known the wasky was going to come around and be the guy. He's done. Now what two weeks in a row, he's had himself a really, really nice big play and played really solid. He's not hutch. Man, I am glad he's there and he's, he's one of our backups because he's shown really, really good. Showing out really, really well. He's not hutch, but he's got the heart. He's giving it everything he's got. He plays because he wants to be out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll tell you what, brother, we're going to let you go. We're going to get a couple of their calls. We're going to keep a role in here as we get closer and closer to another victory. We'll be Monday and a great week of fearful NFL fans watching the descendants of these Detroit lions. All right. All right. Thank you. Love you guys. Love you too, brother. We'll see you. All right. Let that out. They keep coming. And so do I. Hey, caller. What's your name? How much have you had to drink so far? I had a big weapon with blackjack calling in. That was a weird game. And I've had a lot to drink. I'm excited for this one. Wes, man, that's I can't, I can't look at those stats and explain the game. We'll start there. It's bizarre. Like 85 yards, I think, and we score 52 points. How do you explain that? I don't. Yeah, absolutely. So let me ask you, Wes. Should we do a post game show next week? You have to do a post. I don't know. And we could probably use a week off somewhere along the way, right? Yeah, but, you know, we'll lose that. That's probably fair. Uh-oh. I think I lost Ash with with that idea. Yep. No, you're right. So we'll do a post game show next week. I think there's probably a time along the way where we're not going to be able to. But it's not going to be because we plan to show and then the team lost. That's not going to be what it is, right? We won't cancel a show because the team didn't win. Because we know it's us doing these shows that host and type this team to win. So we will be there forever. Um, Wes, what are you looking for next week against the Packers? I'm looking for a, for a pass rusher, but for the game, that's what I'm looking for. Do you think, but with, uh, this is, hmm, I'm starting to think about this. Depending on Jordan loves injury, he may not be very mobile, right? Uh, let's, let's, let's see, let's see, let's just, let's see, love doesn't play next. We can play. We play Malik and he is mobile. I kind of think the not having a pass rush and playing that kind of contain helps us against the guy like Malik more than the kind of overly aggressive rush. What do you think? Well, that's true this week, but I mean, if, but for the rest of the season, we just can't keep winning with a pass rush like this. It wasn't good. We made Mason Rudolph look like Joe Montana for a while there on the first path. He's just not good. Um, hmm, it's in good drives. Yeah. I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm feeling it like I get what your feels, I get where you're coming from. I just, I'm just not. I'm not sure I agree. I, I think the, uh, um, sorry, Mike Landry or Laundry, he'll be done. He's down late, downgraded to Jordan lost from Jordan love. Um, you know, they're, they're all professionals on the other team and they had two drives and they got 14 points and that's that, but we've seen this game. We saw the game against Minnesota. I mean, we've seen a team. We got more sacks. I'll say this again. It's a weird set. We got more stacks without hutch in the Dallas game than we did with him. I'm not, and I don't, I don't even want to like put this idea in anyone's head that we're better without him. Cause that's not the case. Right? But no, we're just different and we have to, we, we scheme that front, that front seven differently without him. And I don't think the drop off when you take seven players into a system. I don't think it's as great as people are worried about. I don't know. And look, of course it's great to have him. And he does so much for the team, but I, I, I'm not broken about where this team is. They've won every game without him and they've played well without him. We need somebody who can, who could put some edge pressure on for sure. We need to find somebody, but I don't want to risk the future for, for right now in, in a way that won't make a real difference for this team. Nash, tell me, give me some nuance, put some nuance to what I'm saying or say, Chris, you ignorant slut and put in, give your, your opinion or both. Well, Chris, you ignorant slut to hear us some nuance to what you were saying. I'll give you both, best of both worlds. Um, the thing is, I don't want them to trade for anybody who wouldn't have had a shot at starting week one. Because if they're not good, why give up any resources for them? Like, just, just, whether we have the 32nd best pass rush in the league or the 26th best pass rush in the league, isn't really a difference that has any meaningful result in the end. You know, so like a lot of these guys that they could go out and get for, you know, the sixth or seventh round pick, like they're not good. And if they're not good, we already have guys who are not good. We've got plenty of that. Like bringing in like a mid tier guy who would be like a, a six sack guy, if he played 100% of the snaps. I don't even want that guy anywhere near this team, like I don't want anybody mediocre. Like if they're going to make a move, I would like them to make a move for a guy who would have been able to actually play meaningful snaps, even if we didn't have any injuries. And I'm not just focusing on, you know, the top, top, top tier because our second pass rusher was someone who couldn't fight a job right away and free agency and ended up signing a one year contract. You know what I mean? And he ended up being pretty good across there. But like somebody, I think Pascal is the line. If you can't get more out of a guy you're trading for, then you're getting out of Josh Pascal. There's really no point in giving up future assets to bring that guy in any future assets, even worthless things like sixth or seventh round draft picks, which in my opinion have almost no value, I think a one year rental of a guy who's not very good has even less value than that, if that makes sense. Well, I agree to a point, but I don't know, at least we could bring in somebody as good as like Davenport for make a mid a day to pick. What do you think of that? I don't think any team's going to trade that guy, like if he's there, sure, but I think I don't know. There is Smith for fourth round pick. I would do that, but I don't think I don't think Cleveland will. That's the thing. Like the other team has to want to get rid of the guy for whatever reason they want to. And he has to be a mental fit. And yeah, Alexandria Smith fits a lot of the things we need. But he's also, if I recall from his measureals, he's about the same size as James used. And it's really not. But I'm actually just checking for a six round pick. I don't think he's better than Jeff Pascal, like I just, I don't see an actual improvement in quality. I'm the other side of Josh and then we'll have two guys as good as Josh Pascal is my point. Yeah, my point is you're giving up future assets for a marginal increase at best. Like if it gets 13% better than it is right now, I don't want them to do that. I would throw a sixth round pick at it, because you got depth. And that's the one thing that we heard the most right now is the depth of deposition. If we continue seeing these injuries, it could hurt six round. I don't want to say it's a throw away, but I can close. Yeah. Yeah. So 25% chance to have a guy on the roster three years later, that's what a sixth round pick is. Yeah, 100%. True for the future. But I mean, if we don't, if we get the Super ball lose because we didn't make a trade, I'll feel terrible. But I don't think it's ever going to be that clear cut. I think you're going to find people that argue it. And that's what sports talk is all about, the, the, the manufactured arguments when there isn't a good one to be had, but, but the idea is you're going to go and then there's a bunch of people that say, see, it's because we didn't trade the whole future for Max Crosby. And they're going to make it as if that was a, like, people were having that conversation about golf. We had to throw in, we had to take in the salary cap, like they make these narratives up on a whole cloth. And then it's the discussion point. It's just, I mean, I'm, I'm just, it's, I'm tired, bro. So it's not what we gave up a fourth for Donovan people's Jones. We can at least give up a fourth for something. I think I think we could find something good for a fourth, something that's acceptable and helpful that, but it's got to be. If I'm, if I want a fourth, I mean, oh, God, I wish I had my drafts in front of me. I have old drafts of my other, my other deck that I use kind of in the background on this thing. I'm trying to think we've gotten some really good players in the fourth and I don't want to one year rental for for that. So I don't know. We'll see. Whatever happens. Here's where I land. If Brad Holmes makes the decision, I might even question it at first, but I know I'm going to feel good about it in the end. And that's kind of where it all ends up. He's done things that I had. I'm like, huh? And then I'm like, Oh, so, so I, I, I seed my intelligence as, as below the level of what Brad Holmes is going to do. And I will, I will ride with Brad until, until we die. Yeah. If the deal's there, he'll make it which not he won't, I mean, we got to do something. We got to do something. Whatever we do or don't do. I'd rather they do nothing than something bad. I say a Thomas was something for the sake of something never makes sense. Yeah. Also, for those of you who think I never admit that I'm wrong about anything, I was off once a Darius Smith size by about 35 pounds in three inches of height. I was thinking of someone else I was looking at before the game. The others. It's a big man. I was wrong. All right, Wes, we're going to let you go. Brother. We're going to hit some a hit a couple other college here. All right. Excellent. All right. Thanks, brother. Have a good one. All right. What? From the lurk. Oh, man. Ash. It's something. Yes. This, this trade talk is one of the biggest conversations and it's going to go. It's going to go. It's going to go even after this year. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It's perpetual or they don't. The conversation about needing this trade or not needing this trade is going to go on for ever and the thing is I don't ever want the lions to give up huge value at the trade deadline unless they are immediately signing that guy for five or six years. Yeah. In that case, give up the draft picks, give up whatever you want. If this guy's a part of the future or like one of the reasons everyone keeps talking about Crosby is because he has three years left on his deal or whatever it is. So like something like that, sure. You know what I mean? If it's, but not just for this year for someone who sucks. Yeah. Yes. That's my kind of take on it. Like I just don't want a bad trade. I'm with you. Hey, color. What's your name? And what would you do if you had 52? I would hope that I would not have as many children. I don't know. Wow. You went to a scary spot. Unfortunately, donations. Doing well. How you doing, brother? That would be such a bad question. I'm good. This is Brad out in California way with Internet. Hey, Brad. How you doing? How's Lexis didn't see a man? Pretty good. Pretty good. Are you so color nor Cal? Where are we at here? I need to know the vibe. I was in Oakland and now I moved up in Bolejo. Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool. Bolejo. All right. We got you. We got the vibe. So you're high as hell. Wow. It's been a nice day and I'm gearing up for Halloween so I'm happy that we're not sweating over here. There you go. Great. That's good to talk with you guys. Hope you guys are doing well. But I know we've touched about this a lot in the past about how the Lions play to their opponents level and I got to tell you I was a little nervous in the beginning of the game. But I had to have faith and of course they pulled out. Dude, that's so good though. I'm not full. I'm sorry. No, no, no. That's such a good, good assessment because in that first quarter, I was, you know, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt, whatever, but you're right. Without being able to articulate it, that's what was going through my mind in my heart. Like, Oh God, we're going to play at the level of Titans. This is where it gets scary. This is what this team does. Oh my God. Like that's where the fear is. That's where this. I mean, people call it SOL. But I think it really is about this, this idea of playing to the opponents level for years. I mean, we play great teams really well and just lose. We play terrible teams, really terrible and just barely lose. Right? It was, it was always that. And it was like, Oh, this first quarter feels kind of, ooh, it smells kind of familiar and disgusting, but it wasn't that that's, that's, that's, that's a good point, man. It's really, really good. I should point that out. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. So I'm glad that we overcame that and we don't have to worry about that. Yeah, actually, they put my mind at ease and they, they pull through like I expected them to. So, you know, it feels good to be a Lions fan right now. Yeah, it does. This is a, this is a good ride. Absolutely. What do you think? What do you think about the Packers? Look ahead. I don't know, I don't know what the situation is with Jordan Lust, but, you know, we'll see. I mean, we should handle them pretty easily, in my opinion. I feel like we are the best team in a league. Yeah, I get it. I agree. I agree. Okay. We've got some things going on. Let me, let me show it. Was there anything else you wanted to add, brother? Uh, I just wanted to touch on, sorry, was there something there? No, no, those of you, sorry, there was a little glitch in the, the matrix. Oh, me. Oh, okay. Gotcha. No, I just wanted to touch a little bit on the AG and Kirby Joseph's situation too. It just seemed like the demeanor of, you know, KJ, another KJ was, you know, he seemed like, you know, he needs to be stepping up. Or he is expected to be, you know, somewhat of a leader in some sort of a sense. And so I just wanted to pick your brain about, you know, what your response was to what you saw on, you know, the television during the game, because it just seemed like, you know, he just needed to step up and he did. And AG was just, you know, all up in their asses, you know, because they were not performing. And so, your thoughts, and then I'll leave it to you guys and I'll let you guys go. But you guys take care and I'm glad that you're doing good after the hurricane and you take care of yourself, buddy. Okay. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. Really appreciate that. I generally do. Thank you. KJ, let's talk about that first. He absolutely, I see a different side of him today after, you know, I always saw him as that kind of clowning around kind of guy. But when you see him and you get that vision of him in the moment and being locked in, that's great. AG, I think, I think he is absolutely the guy. You can see that in him right now. And as a defensive coach and what he expects out of his players, and he isn't just ran and raving and going like a lunatic on the sideline because they scored 14 points on us. He was coaching. He was absolutely coaching and he put the damn up and he stopped the flow right then. And it was through his emotion and the power that he brings and the sideline and his ability to coach those guys into place. He spoke to them in a way they understood and they reacted to and they just shut that team down after that. And I'll be 100% honest. They shut that team down by spending. I had to look at what I didn't look at this and I should have. I'm going to look really quick here. If I look at the time of position, yeah, that we only had 24 minutes in the game had 35 minutes of possession against this defense. And you talk about a team that had an opportunity to get to a defense that had an opportunity to tire out to feel some significant pain and wear thin and they didn't. The points were scored early and it didn't matter that they spent all that time in the field. They shut that team down. And that's again, the mark of a good team, a well coached team and Kirby, I think very well may be that kind of swaggy leader on the defense in that kind of clowny way that he does. And I mean clown can have a negative connotation so I don't want to I don't want people to take it that way. He's has a good time like he's a class clown right kind of has fun. But he did like CJGJ was a guy that was kind of clowning but kind of brought people together and and pumped them up right. Kirby's a better version of that is what I'm trying to is what I mean when I refer to that. And I think he brings these player together but allows them to have that swag when they do it. But when it's time to work, when it's time to be in the office and do business, he's there in a serious and he knows how to do that and then translate that into kind of that more fun loose play as a player. So I love what we're seeing at a Kirby and his growth as a player and a leader in that locker room. Ash, I mean anything to add or you just want to come in here and slide again? Yeah, I mean like yeah, if you look at like team stats, like one team had 416 yards, the other team had 225. It really doesn't feel like the team that dominated yards to that level should have lost by what is at 38 points like it just doesn't make any sense. You know, the only stat that the Lions really beat them in was rushing yardage by six yards and everything else pretty much goes the opposite way. Like the Lions gave up more sacks, they had a lower yards per play. All of these things kind of, you know, like, but then the thing that matters, the one that matters is that two fumbles lost, two interceptions thrown and then everything else that happens doesn't matter like this, they just the aspects of the game that needed to step up today to make this a ridiculously dominant game did once that didn't really work to do. It's not like they took the day off, but they also, you know, like they didn't, there's no show boating today. I guess is what I'm getting at. Yeah. Yeah. And that regard, they didn't, there were no garbage stats up by a whole bunch of points. Like they just kept getting really good kick returns, having 20 yards to the end zone. Like what are you going to do? Just stop scoring? Like nobody from the 2007 Patriots has ever gone on camera and been like, man, I wish we were nicer to a lot of teams than we were. It is just never happened and it will never happen. You know, like this is just a good reputation amongst the other players. It was, it was really tough to. Yeah. I was, it was difficult to show up to all those league awards meetings where we were taking every single award and having other teams boo us as we walked on stage to collect our trophies. You know, like that's, that has never been a like, no, this, this is in a sport where you give out participation trophies, you know, and so it's, it's just awesome. Like everything about today was great. That's, that's where I'm at on this one at this point. Yeah. All right. Let me get Michelle with the hymns player of the game. Um, this is the line that I'm going to take. You shouldn't type it. If you don't mean it, uh, what the fuck people I've been drinking since the start of the game. I don't remember who's who. But that's only because she was staying to the player was love it. Cleef Raymond, the hymns rock hard player of the game. Good, good pick. He absolutely deserves that. And great points. I mean, as I walk down these, these stats ash 200 yards more on 200 yards passing more, uh, about five more rushing yards or five less rushing yards than the lions. Um, we yard per play higher average, 10 more first downs, um, three times the third down efficiency, um, well, almost two thirds, the plays we had there's, I mean, they had you know, more, much more than us. We, we allowed four sacks to their one, um, penalties, they, they got bumps bumped on the penalties. The fumbles and interceptions on their side burnt, but time of possessions that they had by 11 minutes. I mean, by all stats in the game, they should have won. But when you come right down to it points per minute ball held, lions won that one. And I guess that's the one that matters today. Yeah, like you can't, you can't give up four turnovers and a whole bunch of kick return yards and, and, and hope that you're going to win that game like their defense had no chance today. That's, that's just the way that it is. And it was kind of nice to, to not feel James and Williams not being there, you know, not to bring a downer to the table, but, you know, when they were talking about appealing and again, given the nature of the only things that ever get two game suspensions for PEDs, I was like, you'd like, you're not going to win. There's no way to win this appeal. You either filed the paperwork or you did not file the paperwork and maybe the Titans isn't the one we need to try to keep them on the field for, you know, like it wouldn't have been nice. But the appeals process does not take two weeks. There was no way he was going to be there for green Bay. So like, let's just take the issue and, and move on with our lives, you know, and then in the off season decisions can be made about that and all of its ramifications for the future. But yeah, like, it's, it, they did not need him this week. Hopefully next week they don't either because we're, you know, watching Malik Willis try to throw a ball more than 20 yards with any level of accuracy and fail. Because if you do that against the Detroit Lions, that's a pick, baby. I will close with. You know, there are no easy little dump with us. Yeah. I will close with this. This is, if you want to beat the Detroit Lions, all you have to know what this is, what the storyline is that week. Kelly Freeman, former Tennessee Titan, let walk and free agency, probably a little chip on a shoulder, a little something to work out. Oh, it's National Titan's day. You got three people. You know they're getting the ball. That's just how it works. Oh, you're playing Dallas this year. Oh, we're going to have all kinds of eligible linemen throwing and catching balls. You can fucking bet that because that's the story. You want to beat Dan Campbell, figure out what the story of the game is because that's what he's going to punch in the face with. 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Detroit Lions vs. Tennessee Titans: Post Game Show Reaction
In the latest episode of the Detroit Lions Podcast, we dive into all the big moments from the Detroit Lions vs. Tennessee Titans game in this game 7 post game show. As the NFL season progresses, each game is shaping the Lions’ playoff prospects and bringing fresh storylines to follow. Did the Lions manage to handle Tennessee’s strengths, or did they face new challenges against this opponent? We analyze the game’s biggest plays and invite listeners to share their takes. Your calls add depth to our discussion, and we love hearing your perspectives on Detroit’s season.
Lions Offense vs. Titans Defense: Key Battles in the Trenches
A major focus of our analysis is how well the Detroit Lions offense matched up against the Tennessee Titans defense. Known for their solid run defense, the Titans posed a potential obstacle for Detroit’s ground game, led by David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs. We discuss whether the Lions were able to establish a balanced attack, creating opportunities in both the running and passing games, or if the Titans managed to disrupt Detroit’s offensive rhythm.
Another point of interest is the performance of the offensive line, especially with Kevin Zeitler back in the lineup. Did the line hold up against Tennessee’s pass rush, allowing Jared Goff enough time to make plays? Listener calls will bring diverse insights into how fans felt about the team’s offensive performance and whether adjustments might be needed for the Lions to stay competitive in the NFL season.
Lions Defense: Limiting Tennessee’s Playmakers
On the defensive side, the spotlight was on how the Detroit Lions handled the Titans’ offensive strengths. With Tony Pollard in the backfield, Tennessee has one of the most formidable rushing attacks in the league, and we dive into how Detroit’s defense held up against this challenge. Did the Lions manage to limit Pollard’s impact, or did he break through for significant yardage?
Additionally, we explore how Detroit’s secondary performed, particularly in defending against play-action passes from the Titans. This game was an important test for Aaron Glenn’s defense as they aimed to balance aggressive play with disciplined coverage. Fans calling in will have the chance to share their thoughts on Detroit’s defensive strategy and what it might indicate about the team’s resilience against high-powered offenses.
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