Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show
Episode 26: Dean Osuna
(upbeat music) - I got the whiskey. - Let me have a drink here, whiskey. Gotta get out of here. (upbeat music) - My name's Ken, and I clean Willy Nelson's under hole. - Under hole? (upbeat music) - I know you don't agree, but I think he's the king of country. - Get the fuck out of here. (laughing) - Get out of my studio. - I'm scared. - No, hell no. (upbeat music) - From the Ramona Radio Studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show. (upbeat music) - All right, we're here. Happy Sunday. We're here live, we're doing it live. Welcome to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show. I'm your host, Travis Billy. Bad ass baby bladder boss Ross. (laughing) I'm just kidding. (laughing) - Hold on, he's gotta go to the-- - Not about the baby bladder boss. - We got a whole bunch of nicknames for me now. (laughing) With me as always, sweet curbs. - Hey, hey. - I thought we had a theme song for sweet curbs. - What we doing? - Lord have mercy. - I'm an idiot, hold on. There's three curbs. Sweet curbs got a little theme song now. - She's so stupid. ♪ Sweet curbs with a twink coat in her eye ♪ ♪ And she's trying to feel their fogors lie ♪ ♪ And smile ♪ - I'm gonna have to learn like Michael Flatley, Lord of the Dance to this, like with my tap twos or something. (laughing) - Oh man, and on sound, guess who we got as always? Mr. (upbeat music) - All right, my own theme song too. ♪ Eric's in the booth ♪ ♪ Where the magic happens ♪ - Oh yeah. (laughing) ♪ He can play like a show ♪ - Oh, we got Eric, go forth. - He can play the guitar like no one's in a stands. Is that what it is? - Yeah, basically. - That's 'cause he'll only play it. - 'Cause he's a closet guitar player. He won't play in front of people. (laughing) - Damn that AI really picks up on the details. - Right. So we have a really, really bad ass guest today. - Dude, I'm stoked. - If you don't know who this guy is. - You'll know. - You must live under a rock. (laughing) - Right. - We got Mr. Dean. Oh, so, nah. - Hello, hello everybody. - What's up, man? - Happy Sunday, everybody. - Yeah, happy Sunday. - You too. - Welcome to the show, man. - Well, thank you, thank you. - If you don't know Dean, he's in a band called Natural Selection, and another band called Warpath. - Yes, sir. - And how many other bands? - Two, actually. - At the moment. - Okay. - Malekai, which we only play a couple times a year because the bass player lives in Utah. - Okay. - And currently just started, it's been about six months, but we're just about to have our first show, T-V-E, the Volbeat Experience. Have you ever heard of Volbeat? - No, what's Volbeat? - Volbeat is a Danish rock band. - No way. - Danish metal band. - Oh, I've heard some scuttle butt around this. That's coming around, that's going around town. Rumors of your band. - Yep. - I've heard this story is starting to brew around this already. - And it's, I'll tell you, it's huge. We had a launch party a couple of weeks ago, and it was probably 100 plus there. - Oh yeah. - We had only family and friends, and the turnout was absolutely amazing. - Yeah, I do, yeah. - So you said tribute though, so-- - It's a tribute. - You dress up and-- - We dress up, we look just like the guys, actually our singer, Mr. Vince Handvey, a local Ramonian as well. - Vince Handvey. - Yeah. - Yeah, I know. - You know Vince? - Yeah, he's in the band, he's the singer. He's Michael Polson, who's the singer of Volbeat. Looks just like him, sounds amazingly just like him. - Damn. - And yeah, we dress accordingly and-- - Do they dress, you said Danish? - Danish, yeah. - So are they super eccentric, like? - No, no, they're just metal, they just wear black, and you just like, well, so Michael Polson, the singer, he's a real avid Johnny Cash fan. - Oh, so nice. - Nice. (laughing) - That's Volbeat? - That's Volbeat. - Damn. - Oh, that's hard, that's heavy. It's rad. - So there's one song called Still Counting, I'll put that one on, that's great. Just the first vocals, the first lyrics, you'll love them. I mean, it's perfect, it's a perfect segue to a nice show. - Okay. - Yeah, so I'm gonna give a little disclaimer, this is a outlaw country show, ladies and gentlemen, but we might play some metal music on this episode since we've got Dean here with us. - I'm a country boy, so-- (laughing) - He's a country too. - Dean's a good, hard country boy. - Natural selection. (laughing) - We do a good hour and a half of country, easily. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - I remember I saw y'all do natural with natural selection. I saw y'all do Free Bird, man. - Oh, we do Free Bird. - Dude, y'all kill me. - We do Free Bird, I love it. Somebody yells it out in the crowd and it don't matter where it is in the set, we're playing it. (laughing) You know what, that's just like, that's how you do it, you know? - Yeah, dude. - That's funny, so many people are like, don't ever ask for that song. And they're like, they're the other side, they're like, we will literally stop what we're doing. - We're gonna do it. - Just because somebody called for it. Like, we're gonna play it. - Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, and we're not, I mean, we do, in natural selection, we have hundreds of songs that we could choose from, it depends on the crowd and the venue and what we're doing. Like, if it's calling for country, we got country. You know, we got some Freddy Fender, we got rock and roll, we got classic rock, we got oldies, we got alternative, we got, we can even play metal. - Yeah. - So, it's all out there. - I can't do that. - You got to play to the crowd. - You got to play to the crowd. - Yeah, they do exactly, you know. - Yeah, we've got a couple hundred songs, probably, that we'd pull out. - You just pull them out, yeah. I was going over a list today, so we've got to show this weekend. And it's, the list is endless, you know, I mean, it just jumps all over the place. We do soft, we can do hard, we can do country, we can do rock, we can do... - I heard y'all do Green Day one time. - Oh, we do Green Day. We do Green Day. Yeah. - Oh, yeah, man. - Well, Dean does the sound for the chamber, right? - I do, I work for the chamber, yeah, we work for the chamber. My brother, Danny, and I have been working for the chamber for a few years now and it's there. I'll tell you a minute, there are a great bunch of people to work for. And the relationship that we have is that the trust level is just so high. They hire us to do their events trusting in us completely to just take care of the business and we do. You know, and they don't bother us and they just, I see smiles when we're doing shows, we're doing bands there and they just, they know that we're taking care of the business, take care of them, and everything in order. - I can tell you this, man, when we play and you're the sound guy, I'm like, hell yeah. - Yeah. - Thank y'all. - It's a love, it's a passion. It's something that, you know, I mean, we're musicians as well, so we actually know what needs to happen up on our stage. Sometimes you get sound men that really, they're not musicians, maybe they're studio musicians, maybe they're, but live, live is a completely different monster, you know, it really is. - Hell yeah. - I know, he'll always ask me to show, like, they'll be playing, like, how does it sound? I'm like, sounds good to me, and then a musician shows up and they're like, oh, that guitar's kind of high, and he's like, why don't you tell them, I'm like, I don't know, I've got trained, and it sounds good to me as a normal person and audience. - It kind of occurs too, when we go to shows, we go to concerts, you know, and we're sitting there, where we should be enjoying the concert, we're sitting there listening to the sound. I just saw Breaking Benjamin the other night up in LA, and the sound guys, you know, of course, we're critiquing their work, but these guys are top, top, I mean, these guys are monsters, you know, and it's just amazing to see, you know, the level from where we're doing these small venues, to where they're doing these big Honda arenas, and, you know, the Pacific centers and all those, the in-betweens, it's just incredible, those guys are amazing, you know, and we do our work too, so it trickles all the way down to us, and we're, you know, we love what we do. - I can't, dude. - So, tell me a little bit about Warpath. - So, Warpath, about six years ago, started, actually, it started a long, long time ago with my step-son chance, who kind of followed in the same footsteps that I did when I was in high school. So, let me back up just a little bit with that, and I taught Chance how to play when he was like 15. It was, his mom said, "Well, I was going to either give you lessons, or you can learn how to rock from Dean." - And he chose the right one. - Oh, yeah, there was a note right there, he's like, "No, no, I want to rock." So, we immediately started learning songs, rock and roll, stuff like that, you know, and the funny thing was that he's double-jointed. - Oh, yeah. - So, when I played guitar, you know, it's proper chords, you know, proper structure, you know, positioning, all that, and he's got this double-jointed hand that, like, just to push his fingers down a different way, and he would make the chords, but it didn't look right to me, so I had to look away when I was, I taught him the chords and I had to look away because I could listen to it, and it sounded good, but when I looked at it, it was like, "Oh, my God, this is not doing it right," but he was doing it right, it was just, he was double-jointed, right? - Yeah. - So, let me back up even a little bit more. When I was in high school, I would go to school, I'd take my notebook, and I would draw these stages, and I'd draw these drum sets on there, and I'd draw the truss, and I'd draw the lights, and I would draw, you know, the amps on there, and everything like that, just, 'cause that's what I wanted to do always, I wanted to do that, well, fast-forward 15, 20 years, and Chance is doing the same thing in high school, so it was right around that time that I started teaching him how to play, right? So, what had happened was, I got a bunch of the res kids together, taught them all how to play, and we started this band, it was called "50 Kell," right? Chance was the singer, guitar player, my stepson at the time, Dennis was the singer, a couple of kids from Barona, the guitar players, and Chance's little brother, who was nine years old at the time, was the bass player. - Damn. - So, we learned songs, and we did all this stuff, and they recorded a little album, they were great, they were really good, really good kids, and we'd play at all these functions, I mean, hired, you know, paid, paid gigs, and as it happens, people grow up, kids grow up, and I mean, it was just, when you're having fun, it's just like, you know, you're playing, it just seems like it happened way too fast, all of a sudden, the drummer, he's going to college, you know, it's like, okay, well, let's replace him, because the other kids still had a couple of years left, and then Chance, here, he's playing at his graduation, we're like, oh man, what are we going to do, these kids are all, you know, 50 Kell was pretty much done, and what are we going to do? So, natural selection has been playing for, we've been playing for like 25 years, and so, right, I was like, well what are we going to do, let's get Chance and put him in there, but how do you teach a 17 year old kid all this credence and all this rock and roll that's like, he's not interested in this stuff, let's just, let's just give him the chord progressions and put him in the fire, you know, I mean, Chance, we're going to play the show, here's the chord progression, ready, one, two, three, here we go, and he was so good, after I taught him all I knew, he went to Ramona High for a year, and took the jazz class, he got in the jazz class, the beginning jazz class, and that day they sent him over to intermediate, because of what he knew, you know, so, and he took that and it opened doors, the kid is just incredible, he is so good, and I'm kidding, more is 27 now, but you know, at that time he just absorbed everything that he had, and it became an incredible musician, right, and that's what he is today, so, right after 50 Kell and in between natural selection, when he was learning all this stuff, a couple years go by, he's getting his bearings in the music world, and I see him, he pulls out one of his notebooks from high school, and I see this war path, I see the pentagram that he had, that was our logo, I saw the stages that he was doing, the same exact thing I was doing, and I was like, I used to do the same thing, Chance, I'm like, what do you got, what do you got going, he's like, I wrote this song, check it out, bang, throws out one of the songs, I got my drum set there at the house, we start playing it, we wrote the album in less than two months, the first album, just banging them out, boom, boom, one after one after, we started with another bass, I think it was kind of like a spinal tap thing with bass players, we had one guy, I mean we went through like four or five bass players before we finally got, oh brother Danny, the guy who does sound with me, he's the bass player at Warpath, so, finally we got to the point to where we were doing pretty good, we had a pretty good set list, we had a pretty good line up, and one of the kids actually, it was my cousin, Harrison White Cloud, who was just about to get into 50 Cal when everything broke up because they were just too big, I think he played one or two shows, he ended up being the guitar player at Warpath, so we kind of just kind of, he kind of was drug along with it, you know, and then, and then Warpath was formed, okay, and then it was, it was, we were native, so it was like, well what are we going to do, are we just going to go out there and be this band that's like play metal and has nothing behind it, well we all talked about it and we said, well we're native, so let's let's put that native spin on it, let's put a feather on it, notice what they call it, you know, let's put a feather on, you know, and so we, I was the first one to do it where I just kind of just put on some makeup, like war paint, and it just, it felt good, you know, and for me, I'm an old kiss fan, you know what I mean, yes, my mom bought me when I was 10 years old, she bought a record player, she bought two kiss albums for me when I was 10 years old, destroyer and ace-freely solo album, so I was like, I was hooked from day one, right, so I put the makeup on, and everybody just followed suit, Danny, he put the makeup on, chance he put the makeup on, everybody put the makeup on, and it just, it just stuck like glue, and then we started doing stuff, we played all over, I mean we did Hollywood, we did the whiskey, we did Anaheim, all over Orange County, and then we started booking tours, I started booking tours up to this metal fest up in Oregon that we played five years straight, it's called the Rivera Fest, one of our brothers from Pachanga who lives in Oregon, throws a three day metal fest, and we were the, we still are the featured artists up there, once we came, it was, it was over with, they just, they loved us up there, and so, so it was, that's how Warpath came to pass. Oh yeah dude. And I mean there's, we played with everybody in San Diego, we played Dang near every venue in San Diego, Riverside, L.A., you know, we did a lot, so, and we're kind of back on the horse now, so we're exploring new stuff, we're in talks right now about what we're going to do in this next, this next year, so we'll, we'll, let's listen to a, let's listen to a Warpath song, we got, we got some fucking mic on, there we go, I want to play their intro because it's the intro that's like the coolest of the Warpath thing, it's, it's pretty rattin. Let's hear it. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And then boom, right there, the lights would go on, and it'd be, and then it goes, and then it'd go on and it'd be, and then it goes, and then it'd go right into that country jam. Oh my ex is living Texas, and Texas is a place I nearly love to be, but oh my ex is living and that's why I hang my head in Tennessee, Roseanne was down in Texas or Cameron, wanted me to push her breath, the street I laid, she never leaned, she forgot I hung a man, and now the suns in Galveston, somehow lost her sanity, and dimples, and now lives in temples, got the love lookin' for me, oh my ex is living Texas, and Texas is a place I nearly love to be, but oh my ex is living Texas, and that's why I hang my head in Tennessee. I remember that whole free old river where I learned to swim, but it brings to mind another time where I wore my welcome thing, my transcendental meditation, I go there each night, but I always come back to myself, long before deadlines, oh my ex is living Texas, and Texas is a place I didn't love to be, but oh my ex is living Texas, and if oh I reside in Tennessee, some folks think I'm hiding, it's been rumored that I die, but I'm alive and well in Tennessee just a good old boy, never meetin' no harm, be told you never saw me in trouble where the long sets of days they was born, straighten the curse, blind in the hills, some day the mountain might get 'em but the long never will, leakin' their way, the only way they go, let's jump a little bit more with the whole of life, woo! That's just a little bit more with the long never will, I'm a good old boy, you know my love me, but you don't understand, they keep us showin' my hands and not my face on the long never will, I'm a good old boy, I'm a good boy, I'm a good old boy, I'm a good old boy, I'm a good old boy, I'm a good old boy, I'm a good old boy, I'm a good old ♪ The Rangers stopped beside me in an antique Cadillac ♪ ♪ He was dressed like 1950, half drunk and hollow-eyed ♪ ♪ He said, "So long walked in this field, would you like to ranch?" ♪ ♪ I sat down in the front seat, he turned on the radio ♪ ♪ And them saddled songs coming out of them speakers ♪ ♪ Was solid, contregold ♪ ♪ Then I noticed the stranger was ghost white ♪ ♪ Here when he asked me for a light ♪ ♪ And I knew there was something strange about this ride ♪ ♪ He said, "Gift the can you make folks cry when you playin' singin'?" ♪ ♪ Have you paid your dues, can you mornin' please? ♪ ♪ And now I'm gettin' our strains ♪ ♪ I said, "Lord, can you make folks feel what you feel inside?" ♪ ♪ 'Cause if you big start 'round, let me warn ya, it's a long hard ride ♪ ♪ Then he cried just south of Nashville ♪ ♪ And he turned that car around ♪ ♪ He said, "This is where you get off, boy." ♪ ♪ And I'm goin' back to Alabama ♪ ♪ As I stepped out of that Cadillac ♪ ♪ I said, "Mr. Many thanks." ♪ ♪ He said, "You don't have to call me Mr. Mr. ♪ ♪ Hold on, call me high ♪ ♪ He said, "Gift the can you make folks cry when you playin' sing?" ♪ ♪ Have you paid your dues, can you mornin' please? ♪ ♪ Can you pin out your tires? ♪ ♪ I said, "Lord, can you make folks feel what you feel inside?" ♪ ♪ 'Cause if you big start 'round, let me warn ya, it's a long hard ride ♪ ♪ He said, "Rift the can you make folks cry when you playin' sing?" ♪ ♪ Have you paid your dues, can you mornin' please? ♪ ♪ Can you pin out your tires? ♪ ♪ Right? ♪ ♪ He said, "Lord, can you make folks feel what you feel inside?" ♪ ♪ But if you big start 'round, let me warn ya, it's a long hard ride ♪ ♪ If you big start 'round, let me warn ya, it's a long hard ride ♪ ♪ You know, you've got a lot of competition out there, now the sun ain't like it was in the 50s when I was here ♪ ♪ I think you got way to doin' anything, it's a little nasty ♪ ♪ Got Clark, Billy Joke Shafer, baby I'm cold ♪ ♪ And you even got my son ♪ - All right, we're back. - Back. - What did you think about that David Allen code, Dean? - Oh, love David Allen code. You know, David Allen code did some stuff with Dimebag and Pantera. - Oh, yeah? - Without Phil. - With Pantera? - Yeah. - Oh, that was the trip. - It's called Rebel Meets Rebel, you can pull some up. - Rebel Meets Rebel? - Rebel Meets Rebel. - Rebel Meets Rebel, and it's Pantera playing the music, and it's David Allen code singing. - No shit. - Oh, yeah, I gotta hear that. - Yeah. - I got to see David Allen code. - I did too, here in Ramona, I had my Dimebag shirt on, and he looked right at me as well. - I know that you have a David Allen code guitar. - Yes. - I know, I saw it, what are your videos you guys have? - Wait, wait, wait, wait, like a guitar he owned? - No, no, it's a Dixie. - Or his model, like-- - It's a Dixie. - Okay. - Yeah, and you can't find that stuff anymore. - I know, man. - You cannot find that stuff anymore. - No, you guys were recording a Warpath video. - Alive. - Is that your studio? - That's our studio, yeah. - The studio, yeah, right down the road. - Oh, yeah? - Yeah, right over there in Ramona. - And, uh-- - You should see this video of David Allen code hanging out-- David Allen code hanging out with Pam Terra. - Hanging out with Pam Terra, man. - At the Pulitzer table. - Yeah, it's really cool stuff. - That's rad. - And it's like, you never think of Pam Terra. - Good old? - Yeah, yeah. - It's got the Pam Terra vibe in the groove. - Yeah. - David Allen code singing. - And David Allen code singing, I got to hear him sing really well. - Oh, yeah. - What the hell? - Scoob. - I have no idea. - Yeah. - About this. - That's wild. - And he's like one of those mega David Allen code. - Oh, yeah. - Super nuts. - Oh, yeah. - Super nuts. - No way. - Just a wild. - David Allen code singing, huh? - Yeah. - I think it sounds like it. - Yeah, it definitely sounds like-- - Yeah. - It definitely sounds like-- - ♪ And I play some blues ♪ ♪ In me with nothing ♪ ♪ Got nothing to lose ♪ ♪ I find my woman most bright in the world ♪ - Oh, my God. - That's wild, dude. - That's cool stuff, right? - That is crazy. - That's crazy. - We've got stuff that we cut our teeth out. We grew up with. I mean, that album's pretty old. It's about 15, 20, 20 years old, yeah. And, you know, he's a staple, you know, in the country scene. And with Pantera back on the-- I mean, it's just-- - I feel like he's one of the original outlaws. - Oh, yeah. - Definitely one of the original outlaws. - Oh, yeah. - We love the outlaws. - Wait, we talking about Dimebagger, David Allen code? - David Allen code. - I was just kidding. (laughing) - Oh, man. So what's the adventure or the upcoming adventures for Warpath? You guys are gonna-- - So, yeah, like I said, we've been on the horse freshly on the horse, and we're talking about, you know, playing some shows and doing some things. Of course, we'd have to replace our guitar player and have a few talks about just respecting each other's spaces. - Did the guitar player just find out he got fired? (laughing) - No, he's just found out he's gonna be replaced. Sorry. (laughing) And, you know, I may just walk down that road where-- 'Cause we're all older now, and we're all aware of everybody else's space and time, and it all needs to be respected. And so, you know, us with kids and other people with jobs and things that go on, you know, it can't be expected to be a rock star 24/7 and do all that. So, what we're doing now is we're talking, we're gonna play a few shows. We just cameo, really, kind of piggyback natural selection, and we just step in and do, you know, three or four songs, and then it's kind of-- and the response was amazing, you know? Everybody wants us back, for sure. - Yeah, I do too, man. (laughing) - So, what I can say is that, yes, we are definitely in the talks about doing this and doing it one more time, and then laying it down properly. - Right on, man. - So, there you go. - Very good. - There you go. I remember I was following you guys for a while, and then freaking COVID, you guys were supposed to go on a tour. - Yeah. - I remember following that. - Yeah, we missed one tour. - Yeah. - And then following that, we did follow up with a couple of tours after that, but it just, yeah, it was just a lot. - Yeah. - It was just a lot. People were having babies, and, you know, things were going on. - Damn kids. - Kids were growing up, and, you know, so, like I said, on that note, we have to respect everybody else's time and spaces. So, with that being said, yeah, we'll definitely have some talks about what's going to happen and how it's going to happen and make sure that everybody is treated and received properly. - Oh, yeah, man. That's awesome. And it's all family, right? - It's all family. - Yeah. - All family. - So, Chance, the singer, Stepson? - Stepson? Yeah, it's my stepson. And Danny is my brother-in-law, and my brother, I mean, I say that in a brother sense, we grew up together since we were little guys. Harrison, Harrison, the former guitar player is my cousin. So, you know, it's his family. And then, you know, whoever we have to come and replace will definitely be in the family. - I remember, it was a couple years ago, I was talking with you. I know it was a family member. They were traveling across from the east side of the United States to the west side of the United States to bring some water. - Yes, yes, yes. We did my cousin. Bobby Wallace, we actually threw a huge concert in sequan last year. - Yeah, I remember that. - And it was based on a water prayer, Native American water prayer. And I swear there was so much rain last year because of it. So, what happened was we were going to throw a concert. We had the idea to throw a concert, my friend and I. And Bobby, at the same exact time, was like, "Hey, I got this friend of mine and they want to do this water prayer." And I'm like, "Well, what is it?" He goes, "Well, we're going to start here. We're going to grab some water out of the Pacific Ocean. And we're going to run." Now, I think they flew over. I think they flew over. They flew it over to the Atlantic Ocean, to the east coast. Picked up some water from there and then ran back from the east coast all the way back and every major waterway that they crossed. I think even little streams that they crossed, they picked up water out of it. - Okay. - And then they got back here and they poured it into the Pacific Ocean again. Praying the whole way. These guys would run. So, I think there was 12 of them. There were 12 runners. Even there was a kid that was like 16. - Oh, yeah. - That ran. And they would run about 40 to 60 miles a day. - Like, altogether as a group, or they would stagger. - No, they would piggyback. They would leapfrog and they would be like, "One guy would run, you know, 10, 12 miles." Whatever they could do. The kid actually ended up running the most. - Oh, yeah. - He would run the longest. - Yeah. - But they would do, and then they have a van drive the next runner up to where he was going to start. - Oh, kind of like a Ragnar. - Yeah. And then he'd pass off the water and his eagle staff and they'd run with the staff in the water. And the whole time, just praying the whole time when they were running. And then, you know, and then so what happened? Let's see. They started, I think they started in the winter. No, they couldn't have started in the winter. I think they started in the fall. And then I think where they stopped because it got too cold, whatever. They held over for a few months. And then once the spring came, they started again. And they ran all the way to here. - That's crazy. - Once they got here, we received them. They ran up. So we put this concert together so we could receive them as they came. And they ran up the road in Saquan, where the casino is. And we had two huge stages. I mean, like festival stages, like real big. Like we put a lot of money into this thing. So, and we had a big ceremony. And then we started the festival for the weekend. And it was just amazing. I mean, the amount of rain that came last winter after that was incredible. I mean, most rain we'd seen in a long time. So it had to have worked. - I think it worked. - Yeah. - I believe. - Yeah. Right? So yeah, that was really cool. It was a really humbling experience, you know, to witness these guys who had just run across the United States. - That's fucking crazy. - For something that they believe in, you know? And just like, it just puts you into perspective how things happen and what people believe, you know? And it just, like I said, we got so much rain that year. - Yeah, yeah. That's wild. - It actually worked. - That's crazy. - All right. So you guys, natural selection, you guys do a lot of country? - Yeah. - Monster, yeah, we do country. Yeah. Since this is an outlaw country show, we do. We do do David Allen Coe. - Which one you'll do? - We do. You never call me Darling. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. - That's a really good one. We do some Johnny Cash, we do some George Strait, we do Scarth Brooks, we do Chris Stapleton. - Oh, yeah? - Yeah, we do all the good ones. I mean, you know, what's a Tennessee whiskey? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All the staples, let me do them all. - You know, we always get requested to do Tennessee whiskey, but I feel like it's so played out of it. I'm just like, we finally did it. - Yeah. - And their response to how was it received? - Oh, it was great. - They love it, right? - Oh, they freaking loved it, yeah. It was at a winery Hatfield, I'm just going to give him a shout out. - Yeah, yeah. - What a Hatfield. She'd been requesting that song for like three years. And I kept telling her, ah, yeah, we don't do that one. And then finally, it was just, it was actually just me and Ian playing. - Oh, yeah. - We did a duo over there. And I told her, I was like, come on, come here, I got something for you. - Right on. - She's like, what? - But finally, finally. - Yeah, we did it. - We took three years. - Yeah, we took three years, but she was so stoked about it. - Yeah. - We do friends in low places. - Oh, yeah. - All the songs. Chance is such a good singer. - Dude, I know. - Like, he'll pull that on. I mean, he sounds just like the guy. I'm like, yeah, this is really good. And it just makes it fun, you know. The venue, if the venue calls for it, if the crowd calls for it, we're doing it. - Oh, yeah. - So we go down to BNS, right, to shout out to BNS down there in San T. - That's a fun place. - We play a lot down there. - That's a fun place. - Yeah, we play, we just actually played last weekend over there. - Oh, yeah. - You figure San T, East County, country, well, first time we played down there, we had our country set together and we'd come in and we're like, okay, you guys want to hear some country? And they're like, no. Like, are you serious? They're like, no, we don't want to country. Play some rock. Play some metal. We're like, okay, so we play actually that venue. We play our heaviest songs. - Oh, yeah? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, because they love it. They absolutely love it. - That's killer. - And so that's where "War Path" started up again. Last month we did a show and we featured "War Path" at the end of the show. We did all the covers that "War Path" does and then one "War Path" song and the crowd just loved it. Oh, man. We did. You know, I mean, because like our covers that we did were like corn, septura, you know, those types of heavy, heavy, heavy stuff, you know, Rob Zombie, System of a Down, those types of things. And then we didn't really plan to play that one "War Path" song. In fact, we were at practice and we're like, we didn't do "War Path" song, I'm not really feeling it. I'm like, okay, cool. I'm cool with playing these other songs. And then we did the set that we had lined out and they're like, one more, one more and then Chance looked at Danny and Danny looked at me and we're like, how about no mercy? And they're like, okay, no mercy. Cool. And then we threw it out and they just, like, so we just did it again last weekend and it went off. So there's two. And of course, we're playing again next weekend and we'll do another feature just like that. Yeah, I do. It's all about getting back on the horse. Right on, yeah. So natural selection is a monster, a monster. We just do it all. Yeah. And if we don't know it, we'll go into parking lot and learn it. Yeah. We'll come back and play it. You know, you know, you've been playing long enough. You know the progressions. You know the formulas. You know how it's done. Yeah. I've known that song or whatever song for a hundred years. Play it. Yeah, I would free that out. Yeah. I'm going to park a lot. No problem. And on that tip jar, you've got to remind them, you know, that's how we feed our children, you know, you put some money in that tip jar. I'll learn this song in the parking lot, but we've got to feed our children. It's a feed the children tour. We have to feed our children. Yeah. And if they don't, if we don't get tips, they don't eat, you know, you can't. They tip. So I have a question. Okay. All of our guests, because we're talking about natural selection and their wide variety of music, country being one of them, who is your king of country? My king of country, gosh, Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash? That's acceptable. Johnny Cash. Yeah. If I was to, I mean, I know a few country tunes. I was raised on, on the old school, Alabama and Oak Ridge Boys and all those, those types. So I know all those tunes, you know, but Johnny Cash, I know a lot of Johnny Cash songs. Yeah. You know, send in. And with the new, the new Vollby tribute band that I have, he loves Johnny Cash. So you'll hear something. That's so funny that they're a metal band, but they, he loves Johnny Cash. He loves, and he does a song called The Sad Man's Tongue, and it's like, it's just like one of the Johnny Cash songs. He does. What is it? Hello. My name is Johnny Cash. Comes out in place. Oh, yeah. Hey, Johnny Cash. What was that? Was that Folsom? Yeah. Folsom. That style, but meddled out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. What was it? A social D? A social D did a Johnny Cash song. Ring of Fire? Ring of Fire, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They pulled that one. Yeah. They did. They did. They did. So yeah, we, you know, if I had, if I had to pick one, it would be Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. Right. Right. Who would your queen of country be? Queen of country. So there's this land rhyme sings this song called Blue, that I absolutely love. That's a great song. And I just, I, I play country outside of natural, any of my bands I do, I play drums for my cousin down in a barona. His name's Fatboy, Benagas, and he's the place country. You know Fatboy? Is he older? Bobby, Benagas, yeah. Like, much older. Yeah. Yes, because I lived on the barona Indian reservation, my dad's grandma was given land by the Indians because she became friends with them this whole thing. And my dad grew up like playing with Fatboy, like going out there. Yep. That's wild. So I play with Fats. And we just did a gig in... 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