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Plus, we've got music news on Alex Van Halen's book, Brothers, Eric Church and Luke Combs help raise funds for hurricane victims. The Prima Verra Sound Festival announces a big pop lineup and the tragic and shocking passing of former One Direction member Liam Payne and a farewell to founding grateful dead member, bassist Phil Lush. - All this plus our new music picks of the week and some reviews from us and from you, the Pod Squad. But before we get to all of that, we have to say a big thank you to all of the Pod Squaders who showed up in incredible numbers in Cleveland last weekend. We were blown away. - We have not had the chance when we thanked everybody in the moment, but it was pretty unreal to see all of you gathered from near and far, Cleveland locals and those from other countries, other time zones who made the trip to be with us on the day of the induction ceremonies was absolutely a joy as always to hang out with you guys. - It's so true and the crowd has grown because of sound up. We appreciate that we've gotten some new people, some new Pod Squaders who showed up in Cleveland. Some of those people had never met face to face before. - Right, some who had not been at previous gatherings of friends and fans. And I just got a credit again, we said it at the time, if you didn't listen to the episode, we had a bunch of different of our listeners come in and talk about their favorite of the artists who were getting inducted. And the articulateness, the knowledge base, how informed and how well-spoken everybody was about this range of artists from Aussie to Tribe Called Quest, to Mary J. Blige. - Everybody had stuff to say. It was just really a reminder of how smart all you guys are about this stuff and why we like being a part of your music conversation. - It is so, so true. So we're already thinking like, okay, what are we gonna do next? - Absolutely. - Where are we going next? So we're working that out and we'll try and figure it out. And certainly as soon as we come up with the details, we will let you know. So yes, big thanks to all the Pod Squaders who are showing up in Cleveland. And thank you for listening. - Speaking of people showing up with intensity and passion, I just have to very quickly recap an event on Friday nights. - I gotta hear this. - We held our third annual Taylor Swift karaoke night at the Housing Works Bookstore down in Soho where I remain a member of the board for many, many years. I was joined as a judge for this event by two of our good friends, Rob Sheffield. - Damn right, he better be there. - Who we'll be talking to very soon here on Sound Up about his new Taylor Swift book and our friend Madison Vayne from Esquire coming on as the third judge this year. So great, yes. It is absolutely just the most fun and what was unbelievably striking, we filled the house, we had 20 slots for performers and people came and brought it so hard this year. - Yeah, I mean like dressing like or and stuff? - There were some dressed up, some had props, some had choreography, nobody sang a hit. - Wow. - That's the thing, nobody did shake it off, you know? It was deep cuts and it had the, it was drama and it had the feel of this is what I need to get up and say. That was what was overwhelming is, you know, how intensely people relate to these songs only continues to escalate. But also it's a competition, we had fantastic prizes direct from Taylor headquarters, the Taylor team was very kind and sent a bunch of merch and some sort of rare merch for us to give away as prizes. But it wasn't competitive, it was all about supporting each other, it was all about cheering for each other, it was all about the love and really, really incredibly fun but also kind of inspiring to see all of these folks out there for each other, propping each other up, cheering each other through the performance. It was great. - I'm guessing these are people who, these are, I mean, without sounding weird, these were like adults, right? - Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not, we're not talking about 20 year olds who are coming out to do. - Oh, there's 20 year olds, but even last year we had like 12 year olds come out and participate which is fun and it's way and was great. But this was, these were grownups, young grownups to be fair but they were amazing and we raised a bunch of money for a phenomenal cause, I will say, the Housing Works Organization works with homeless people with AIDS in New York City and low income medical services and lots of other things that we provide and this was a great, and that bookstore where we held this event, I should say, is Holy Ground in Taylor World because the climactic scene of the all too well short film, the video where the grownup Taylor comes out and reads the book that she wrote about this experience, this heartbreak that she had, that scene was shot in our bookstore. - That's so cool. - So we have a, every day we have kids coming in, wanting to see where was it, where was the spot, we now have a marker, Taylor stood here on the floor where it was shot. So it's big full circle, tremendous fun, I am sure we will do it again, but just have to once again, thank everybody, but also, damn, these people mean it. These people mean it really, really hard. - That is fantastic. Did anyone sing with like a little knapsack with a cat in it, with a little globe? - No cat. - Oh, yeah. - The winner, I will say, did the, for those of you who saw the era's tour or the era's tour film, the full chair choreography for vigilante shit. - Wow. - In the blue sparkly outfit, that's impressive. - Yeah, this was fully, fully rehearsed. That was our grand prize winner for them. - All right, well, we got to move on to do some music news and we had some bad news, this past week. - Over these last couple of weeks, yeah, we haven't had the chance to bring up Liam Payne's passing at the age of 31 years old. - What a shock. - According to police, Payne died after falling from a third floor hotel room in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Before his death, the local police received a phone call from the hotel, which reported the presence of a man with aggressive behavior. I mean, there have been different things that have come out since then, through the autopsy, through the inquest, photos of the hotel room showed a really smashed TV, possible illegal substances. They raided the hotel and seized the computer hard drives. There were multiple drugs that were found in his system. There was an account that he had not sort of put up his arms to brace for fall. So what was the state of his consciousness when he fell? - He failed to put up his arms, you said. - He failed to do that, right. So it's as if he just did up. - So he's probably unconscious. - Correct. - A cold fall. There have been reports that he was ultimately that he was aggressive and disturbing the other guests and appeared intoxicated in the lobby, that he then passed out and was carried back to his suite that night. So still waiting as further details emerge on all of this, lots of investigation, but none of it sounds anything, but terrible. - Right. Obviously a death like that at that age is incredibly tragic. And look, you know that they were kids when they started and became massive stars. That's not easy to deal with. And even, you know, Liam has been straight about his depression, about his issues with drugs. And in fact, in May of last year, he was sober. He had been completely sober. - As we've said, the amazing thing about watching is how successful all of the five One Direction guys have been, I mean, sort of unprecedented in boy band world that it's not like there's the one star and the other guys. Obviously Harry Styles is Harry Styles, but all of them really had carved out success since the band went, I guess, officially on hiatus. So, you know, they're all still significant figures, but, you know, this just, he was passed, you know, again, passed out in the lobby. Another guest said there were multiple encounters causing a disturbance. He kept being escorted back up to his room. Whatever this is, it doesn't seem like sort of an isolated momentary lapse or anything like that that, you know, in some way, he must have been spiraling through this day and we'll get more detail as it comes, but nothing, you know, none of it's gonna be good news. - Super sad. And we also have to talk about Phil Lesch passing this past Friday morning, 84 years old. - Less of a surprise, 84 years old and had been in, you know, in bad health in recent years. That was sort of known, but still, a sort of generational loss, right? - A cornerstone of the band, a founding member of that band and the other members have said, there was no Grateful Dead without that guy. He was like, it was built up around him. And I identified with this guy, he had in, I wanna say 1989, a liver transplant, which I have had also, people may know. And this was at a time when they didn't know what was going on. He had hepatitis and that was what caused his liver disease. And he survived that, he survived prostate cancer, he had bladder cancer, I think in 2015, I wanna say. So, I mean, all things considered, he did damn well to make it to 84, not that it's, you know. - It's interesting, I mean, obviously these are thin slices of age, you know, difference from one to the next. But that Lesch is as old as the oldest of the Beatles, that Ringo is 84. And somehow you think of the dead, they come along later, right? Now we're into the, the Beatles are create the '60s and then the dead come post summer of love and later in the '60s and all that. But really these guys, because they did start, they had, and this was somebody who had studied classical composition. - Oh yeah, he was, he was a trumpet player. - Yes, he was a trumpet player. Worked with really leading avant-garde composers, you know, came to the dead through a real sense of musical training, musical sort of experimental, musical training and brought that sensibility, whatever your feelings about the music of the dead, the way that they brought together all of these different American strains from bluegrass to classical music to folk tradition to psychedelia, you know, all of this stuff that's in there, he was such a central piece about it. And as a bass player, you know, everybody talks about how different his approach to bass playing was and that it wasn't just the sort of rock and roll, keep the foundation going, keep the beat going, that he was introducing all of this counterpoint, all of these different lines and pushing the music into different directions in such a unique and different way and how important that was to what the dead became. - So yeah, not a shock, but still really a significant loss. And I know, you know, all of us were hearing from friends who were the real, all of us have friends who are deadheads in our lives. - For me, my favorite era was the Working Man's American Beauty era, 1970-ish. And I have friends who I went to college with. They're still traveling when Bob Weir shows up in a city, they're there, and they're, you know, they're adults with children. - So yes, the deadheads came out in force as well, they should and really sad, even though, as you say, not a surprise, but it's just what we're going through. We lost another one. - We also wanted to talk about Alex Van Halen's book. I've been reading great interviews with him about the book. Have you gotten a hold of it, either of you guys? - I have not. I am very interested to read it. I'm hearing a lot of different things, a lot of mixed reactions to this book and what it is. - 'Cause there's no real dirt. There's no, you know, Monica Lewinsky, or what page was she on, you know what I mean? There's none of that. - And then it ends, I guess, with 1984 and sort of pop explosion of Van Halen, which is obviously before the break with Dave and before the Sammy stuff and before, you know, everything that follows. So it's really, you know, I mean, Stings' book, the police are formed in the last two paragraphs of Stings' book. So people do these books for different reasons and to cover different eras, but, you know, certainly have heard different responses from fans on the one hand saying that there's great insight into growing up together, into Eddie's formation and foundation and everything that created that, but sort of then wanting the rest of the story. - Yeah. He makes the point in interviews that I've seen that most of what people know about Eddie Van Halen is from other people writing about him. It's not from him directly. And I'm really, you know, we've known, I think, all along how close these two were. And it'll be interesting. I want to see where there's cracks, I know, in that relationship. There was some difficult moments. And, but I'm anxious to hear about their relationship as brothers and what that family was. I mean, they had a really cool dad. He was a jazz musician and how that affected who they were. Coming over here, you know, they were bullied like foreigners showing up in America. - I'd love to hear. I know we have Van Halen obsessive listeners. - Yeah. - Out there. And if you have read the book or I saw there were people posting photos that they had gone to Alex's book signings and all of that stuff and what you make of the book. And I got to say, I will share that our friend, Brad Telinsky, who we just saw in Cleveland. He was doing a signing of his new MC5 book next to where I was signing the Peter Frampton book. Brad has posted, he did a book that was a collection of all of his interviews with Eddie Van Halen, which he did many over the years when he was editing, forgive me, guitar player or guitar world magazine. I never can remember which is which. I think Brad was the editor of guitar player and had done a lot of stories with Eddie. Put those together in a book. And he says there are dozens and dozens of unattributed quotes in Alex's book that are taken from his Eddie book. He's like, I'm not mad about it, but just no, there's like 40 things that sort of any time that Eddie is quoted in Alex's book, that's coming from our book. And that is the other sort of perspective on this story is you can hear Eddie talk about it. It isn't a question of it's only been reported secondhand because we talked to him a bunch of times and here's, you know, not only is here the book to prove it, but it's this book that Alex used as a major source for this project. - That's pretty interesting. - Which is interesting. - So that he has to use source material to write a book about his own brother. - So just putting that out there. - Fair enough. What else? Oh my gosh, this, you know, this giant, is it a festival? I guess we can call it a festival, Prima Vera Sound. - Sure, sure, Prima Vera Festival. - They've announced their main headliners. And if you are a popmeister, if you love the pop, this is the show for you. Sabrina Carpenter, Charlie XCX and Chappell Rowan are the headliners for 2025 and it doesn't stop there. Holy cow. LCD Soundsystem, which I'm really looking forward to, that, I mean, they play all the time around here, but-- - But announced a new album. - So-- - Right, right. That was what I was gonna say. They're showing up with the new album Intel. FKA Twigs Biba-Duby, who we've talked about quite a bit, you know, floating points, Fontaine's DC, Haim. - It's a great list, but let's just say, the story here is the most, you know, of the moment-- - Three woman headliners. - They could do, which is Sabrina Carpenter, Charlie XCX, Chappell Rowan. That's a, you know, all showing up in Barcelona for this event, that will, that's the story. - Not bad, not since Lilith Fair. We've seen something like this. It really is pretty amazing and what a great excuse to travel. I think we might have to do this. - You wanna make the trip to Barcelona? I'll take that too. - Let's do sound up from Barcelona. I will make a call. - Finally, let's mention one other big event that happened over the weekend on Saturday night was the concert for Carolina benefit for Hurricane Helene relief that Eric Church and Luke Combs organized. And notably, ironically, delayed for nearly two hours because of severe thunderstorms, just to say the weather ain't over. So they had to start at seven instead of a five o'clock call but kept going all night long, played till one o'clock in the morning and raised 24 and a half million dollars for storm-ravaged Western North Carolina. 82,000 people in the stadium, in the Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, the owners of the Carolina Panthers donated the facility, the vendors donated all the money raised from concessions, merchandise and parking. So everybody gave everything they could, adding up to almost 25 million dollars from this event. Eric Church and Luke Combs put together a show with Billy Strings, Keith Urban, Cheryl Crowe, Avit Brothers, James Taylor, 'cause somebody's got us in Carolina in my mind. So, you know, we needed that. Scotty McCreary, Bailey Zimmerman, Chase Rice, Parma Lee, big lineup of locals for a one night festival. Of course, Eric Church started the show by playing Yes, Hallelujah, in an acoustic version to kick things off for the 82,000 people raising a bunch of much needed money to help that community. - He didn't mention your book, did he? - No, but he's in our documentary. He's a big fan of my book. I don't think he was gonna open the show talking about the book, but he keeps it around for you, which is-- - To a reading or something. - Yeah, that's right. So, you know, big respect and thanks and gratitude for these guys for jumping into action, you know, for all the help that is needed to get things put back together in that region. - Of all of the places to be devastated in that state, you know, Asheville is such a music, Mecca, and I'm sure we've all seen the footage. - And also so not prepared for this kind of disaster. - Well, who I saw a woman on one of the morning shows saying that she was an environmental scientist who moved from wherever the hell she was living to Asheville, because according to her calculations, that was the best protected area against climate change and look what happens. So she was saying there are no places that are safe anymore. - But, oh man. - Thanks to these guys. - Thanks to these guys for sure. - Yes. - I encourage everybody, by the way, to look online. It's really simple to, these people need help and so do the people in Florida. I know that there's a lot of people who are tugging on our sleeve for money around now, but those guys really need it and deserve it. You can find a minute. So, that was a fast look at some music news and we promised you. A guy named Jesse Mallon. Now, I understand that there are people around the country who might not have heard of Jesse yet, and I'm hoping that this will be a great introduction because he is an incredible talent. - And they've probably heard of Bruce Springsteen and Lucinda Williams and Billy Joe Armstrong and people who are fans who participated in this tribute album to help him out with the medical emergency that he will explain to us when we come back. - Jesse Mallon, next on Sound Up. - Calling all future shapers and dream chasers, MSU Denver is a place that meets your pace. We have drive and dedication to help you reach your destination. We're a school that works for you and with you at every step. 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It's possible, maybe you're not in the New York Tri-State or you haven't been paying enough attention when you should have been, you might wonder why the likes of Bruce Springsteen listened to Williams, Bleachers, Elvis Costello, Spoon, Rancid, Frank Turner, and so many others were moved to be part of this tribute album. Jesse Mallon may not have had your string-a-hit singles, but his songwriting since his 2002 debut has made fans of these superstars. And when Mallon suffered a rare spinal stroke last year that paralyzed him from the waist down, these friends and fans jumped to his aid on this benefit album with all proceeds going to his Sweet Relief Artist Fund. In addition, many of these same artists will participate in the two-night benefit event, scheduled for December 1st and 2nd at the Beacon in New York City. To update us on all of this, Jesse Mallon is here with us on Sound Up, Jesse Mallon. Welcome to the show. Really glad to have you with us. Oh, nice to be here with you guys. Hey everybody, Mark and Alan and Roger. We should probably just start off with an update. I mean, how are you these days? We've been hearing about this grueling schedule of physical therapy and stem cell treatments, and we know that you are well into it at this point. How are you doing? Yeah, it's been about 18 months. And, you know, first I was in the hospital for like three months. It was long and, you know, I'd left my apartment that night that this happened, and it was a walk-up in downtown New York, Manhattan, here downtown. And so I couldn't go back. So from the hospital, I kind of had nowhere really to stay. I was in hotels for a while. And a good friend of mine found out about a clinic in Argentina that really did heavy rehab like five days a week, four or five hours a day, but mixed with stem cells, you know, stem cell infusion. And the combination, these people seemed pretty knowledgeable and pretty driven. And it was stuff that I couldn't get here and the insurance wasn't going to cover it in America. I went down to Buenos Aires and I did six months. And it was pretty wild being in a country where, you know, I can't speak the language and I can't walk. And luckily they were really good people, intelligent, compassionate and really hardworking and really pushed me. So currently I am back in New York and I am doing PT here outpatient. And I do a pretty intense schedule. I mean, it's helped me get out of the wheelchair. I can't feel below my upper size, but I do walking with a walker and braces and a lot of things that we're doing all day to challenge and build this back. It's definitely no joke and a real life change at this time. And how's, you know, have you been emotionally? I mean, you're a guy, you're super disciplined. We know vegetarian runner, the embodiment of punk positivity. But has it, you know, has it been hard? Not knowing in this coming out of nowhere and not knowing what's happening, not knowing what treatments are going to work? How have you been doing it, keeping it together? Yeah, it's funny because I always preach, like you said, punk positivity, PMA, positive mental attitudes like, wow. All right, here's a test for you, Malin. And yeah, I definitely get down. My dreams are really dark at times and you feel trapped. I mean, you know, you know me a little bit out to know, you know, I'm pretty hyper guy and running around doing okay. You know, I was had, I'd have canceled 10 months of touring. Plus, you know, I've involved in some music venues and other things producing. So it's tricky to be this whole back and have to deal with, you know, the demons I had before. And then the, the anxiety of like, what if this is the rest of my life? What does this look like? And to need help from people, uh, homemade at times and, you know, like a home nurse and that kind of stuff is, it's a very tough thing. So I guess music as, you know, cliche as it is that is, is a medicine, uh, friendships and the community, the music community is so strong and supporting people. I mean, I always used to do charities and organized benefits for different things. And even when we were kids in the hardcore scene, you know, it was a lot of that. You played benefits for me. We know all that. Yeah, housing works. Yeah. But to see it on the other side, I'm not good at receiving, but you learn. Is there something that you could clock that you could actually measure that, that it's affected your songwriting in some way? Has anything come out of this experience that you've been able to put into lyric or something in that creative way? You should mention there's a new song, which I was delighted, uh, this song Argentina talking about some of the stuff you were talking about. Have you been writing, you know, have you been able to focus to be writing? And yeah, as Mark says, what do you feel coming out? Well, I did write this one song that's coming out Friday, you know, whenever this air is, I guess, but it's coming out Friday and it's, uh, it's something I wrote when I was in Buenos Aires. Um, but yeah, I've been kind of, I was locked for a while. That song really was probably one of the more honest things I've ever written and maybe sad, but still hopeful. But I have been writing a lot, but lyrically, it's coming to me slower. It took me a while to figure out like how I looked at the world and who I was and, you know, what mattered and do I matter and a lot of that stuff. I was kind of trapped by it, trying to find the, just the narrative of what I wanted to say. And I'm still kind of digging out of that a little bit, which, uh, I have tons of songs, melodies and music and things that are finished that the stories are taking a little longer than they've ever come. And, uh, just maybe looking at myself really differently, to be honest, you know, so. It is that because you're still trying to figure it out or is there some, you know, are you foggy? I mean, I've had the heavy duty physical challenges and I know that you can get kind of foggy, you know, when you're going through all this shit. Yeah, I've been tired of stuff, but no, I think it's just trying to, you know, I'd walk around cities and I'd come running in with an idea and I'd write it down like some of the ways I worked are just different. So, uh, you know, and the inspiration into the field in the value, but it started to break, you know, recently and there was some breakthroughs. And throughout this, I've been keeping a journal and also been working on a memoir that I started, just New York stories, kind of stuff that I started before this thing happened to me. So I've been putting a lot of energy into finishing the second draft of this book, which is going to be the end of the month. And maybe that's taking up some of that extra space that I would have. And then I think the plan is once I get this book off my desk, so to speak, I'm going to dive deeper into finishing these songs. But definitely you look at yourself and look at the, I started to look at things just a little different, not knowing where I fit in and what I had to say anymore. And it's kind of silly, but it just kind of did that to me, but not in a fog way, just as a creative person. No, it's not silly. You're just, you're going to occupy a different space and relationship to the world that you got a process. That's not a surprise, but you mentioned the music community. And this is stupid question, because it's obvious, but what did it mean to you that like this benefit album, all these people turned up, whether it's, you know, Billy Jo Armstrong, whether it's Morello, whether it's the whole state. Jim Aspis, Ian Hunter, Tommy Stinson, dozens of people from your, from the hardcore side to the punk rock side to the more singer songwriter side, like all stepped up stood up for you. What did it mean to, you know, to watch that happen and see that come together? Well, a man more to me than anything. I mean, it just touched me so deeply that these people went in and did this. And not only did they just do it, you know, a lot of us has been asked to do tribute albums or compilations and you have a short time. And you have a short window and a short budget of Fannie and, and you kind of just get it banged out. But it seems like, at least to me, it felt like these people kind of went pretty deep and put their own take on things, which really, I mean, the record was made and put together by my old manager, Daniel, and my new manager, Dave Basin, and they did this while I was pretty out of it. The first, this started a while back. But the idea is to raise funds, you know, for my medical recovery and, and helping and all that. And, but really, when I got these songs and I was in Argentina and I only had the phone and no stereo and I would hear a song would come in and, you know, they didn't all come in at once. And I was in a car shuffling to a clinic or in and out of something in a weird state. And suddenly I'd hear these songs and hear these versions and the fact that these people did this and did it so wonderfully. That was so such an emotional spiritual lift that, yeah, the money that fans and people buying this record that that's needed, even though records are, you know, I don't know, it's a weird time for buying things. But just the power of that really, really was a real boost. And also to hear songs back like, you know, I've been touring for years playing these songs and I love them and my fans love them but then to hear someone else sing it's like, oh shit, maybe there really is like a song in there and I'm not fooling everybody. And having said that, there's some people I'm thinking of bleachers is one of them I'm thinking right off the bat that they just took it and ran with it in a completely different direction than than you had. Are there particular songs that jumped out a particular performances. Well, definitely, you know, I love them all the fact that everybody did it but yeah bleachers, you know, I don't really know Jack with communicates through this record and many other here and there and like for him to go in and just give this like Johnny Cash suicide kind of, I don't know yet to see people put these songs into another place. I love Shane Rocky or Gordon, you know, from the pogs her singing it. And you know her version of that just, you know, it's really special to me but, but to look at a record that has agnostic front and Bruce Springsteen on the same record or Murphy's law. And you know, Lucinda Williams, I was like, well, I guess that's my life but it's it's still pretty funny and in a good way like that's like my record collection. And this all happened you said without you while you, you know, sort of early on while you were still out of the country we've got these shows coming up. These shows at the beacon and then I guess you're there's a show in London coming right. Are you, have you been more involved in in that what's your, what can we look ahead to to those performances or I'm planning on playing a full set with the band. I'll be able to participate with the guest that much maybe a little but I'm going to do a set I've been practicing this has been giving me something to really work towards and look forward to and live for. But I, you know, I'm going to play with my band we've we've been in a once a week rehearsal just started up and going to play, you know, the full set there you know it's different sitting down and it's it's a different energy that comes. I'm working towards it I don't really think you know I mean all the other people are going to do different things and play with my band and so we're putting the whole show together but it's, it's nice I played so many places in New York even the garden and whatever but I've never played at the beacon so it's you know it's nice to go up town and be on Broadway for two nights. Go uptown. It's on Broadway. It's an uptown boy. I went there in 1983 for the first time and so the dead canadaies played there before they refurbished it and it was pretty wild in it. Sound check we were standing around I went up there and helped out a band load in with my van and and then inside the lobby we could see like Woody Allen and Mia Farrow looking in like it's their neighborhood like what's going on here tonight like they must have saw the marquee like the dead canadaies and like what's the frick is this and then I went back years later when like Simon and Garfunkel and they polished it up with Madison Square Garden money and you know it was like a whole nother level of golden beak and it's still great but yeah it's nice to do that and you know me in the band that you know they're my family it means a lot it feels great to play again and that that you know when I'm sitting there you can forget about your problems for a little while and to do that and to connect with my audience again because it's just the longest I've ever gone not playing or touring or you know well obviously walking but you know just to not have the music thing you know that thing and when you say it's the longest you started this as a kid yeah I mean you've been doing this right for a minute that's true yeah when I was 12 I started with heart attack and yeah we did that till I was 16 so yeah it's it's definitely a part of it I mean you know you know Allen your kids playing at the clubs your kids playing at the young age like you get into it and now it's more common but back then you know there wasn't rules in the city where you had to be 21 they let anybody into a bar but but to play wasn't as common to go and play you know they might let you get bombed and fall down the stairs but not play a gig something new fun there so in terms of these these shows you're in a different position as you say you've done benefits you've organized benefits what is it for you now to be dealing with the physical issues that you're dealing with but also putting to you know helping to put together this event how involved are you getting well thank God my manager is you know just so strong and into it and my agents as well and they seem to you know make it a smooth and I have a great you know road through it's all coming together everybody had a scatter and pick up work when this happened but they're coming together for me and they kind of know what we do but yeah just you know it's fun to put a set list together and plan the night and figure out the whole you know how it's all going to work with the guests and what we do and make it all work before the union guys charges at $100,000 a minute like playing it you know mercury lounge but you know but I think that it's just to have this to have it on the books and build towards it and at that time of year for many years I would do a holiday show you know at Webster or Bowery and do something in New York City where you know would be a benefit for music and memory in January we do Parkinson's with light a day and just this time of year I think people come together to help other things out but like for me at learning how to receive learning how to let other people I'm a control freak so letting other people figure out how to put this together with me it's different but you know that's I guess part of the lessons I I knew there was a lot of love in this world it's like that Joe Strummer quote like people or nothing without people and I got to really learn this like in a wonderful beautiful way as much as this thing stinks just to see like wow I thought I had some good friends I thought I had some family and love in this world but like wow it's been just so humbling you know so I was just gonna ask about these shows anybody you'd like to mention who you didn't think was coming that's coming or you know today they just announced that Fred Armisen is gonna be at December 2nd the show that's not sold out the first night is sold out but the second night is December 2nd and Jim Jarmis is gonna be one of the hosts and Jim is just you know obviously great filmmaker but there's a guy that's always stayed really connected to the music and art scene in downtown New York and what he came out of I don't know it's just that kind of guy that goes out and supports people and small things that you wouldn't expect and so that was nice that was really nice that he's gonna be part of it is a couple of the people that are gonna be added on that I guess they're not allowed to mention yet for whatever reason but there's a lot of folks playing and in some people I know you know for many years and some people I've just gotten to know like Ricky Lee Jones and stuff like that people like that that I was just a fan of you know it's a great list shows are gonna be great this is maybe a silly question but I'm just wondering hearing you talk Jesse I think of you you know so attached to New York City New York kid you said you started playing the C.B.'s hardcore matinees preteen the venues that you've got you know it's it's so much a part of who you are to go away to have this happen to go away to come back and to come back to the city with still the physical challenges that you're facing and just a different you can't go out and run in the streets and do the stuff that you usually do do you look at this city any different does it register for you any different under these these circumstances because it is such a piece of who you are yeah I mean it's there's a beautiful side to it's still that only living in proper Manhattan or somewhere in the city I could do like one night I hadn't been in many shows and some friend of mine said we're gonna see squeeze in Central Park summer stage I'm like how am I gonna get in there? well he knew the lieutenant of the park you know the police and he got me in his car at 810 and we zipped up to his park this is very rare to snap every night but and next you know this lieutenant got us right in front of stage and squeeze comes on and bangs into up the junction and and I have an hour and I'm back in my house by 10 o'clock my friend drops me off and helps me into the building with my wheelchair and and only living in New York could that have happened to think of going to any other show and traveling but the people I'm out on the street and I'm doing my PT in the street sometimes and I have my walker and my my physical therapist and people are just like keep going yeah some people know me some people don't know me and they're just you know and then there's crazies like over the summer we the guy had a knife and he's mugging somebody in front of the bookstore in front of us and you know the knife is like right there now I can't run into the bookstore or get out of there like I go like me and my nurse and my my aid where we were like freaked out frozen luckily the guy just ran off with the knife after he held it at some guy but like it's still New York it's still real and those are the things I like not not getting hurt but like that there's just this energy and being here you know there's there's something like Argentina great city whatever but this is home but it looks different when you're walking in a slow way and when you can't go out into the night and just I miss the the spontaneous just like taking a walk where am I going to eat I don't know who am I going to run into I don't know where we're going to go New York unfolds like this you know preformed thing that that I always loved about this city and many others but this one especially and it's very different having to plan and control everything and need assistance but still got that heartbeat and I still can get somewhere and feel that and you know I'm going to try to get down to Chinatown and get down into Wohop and be helped down the stairs for Halloween and it's my big plans to go get some some broccoli and tofu you know that is awesome so for the people who are listening obviously pick up the record that that goes without saying it is an amazing record and dare I say it Jesse I really feel like there's so many great performances on this I think you're going to be picking up fans people who may not have heard of you before they're going to be through Green Day and through all these great artists and the amazing versions of your songs crazily you're going to pick up fans from this I'm convinced but what I was going to say was for people who want to help out obviously buying the record is a big help for those of us who aren't say in the New York area and can't get tickets to the show so what else might we be able to do to help you out? Well Sweet Relief is a fantastic charity I think it started when Victoria Williams was in need and they spend their days just you know really selfless people giving so much and they have it's a link and people can donate it's Sweet Relief there you know without getting a shit I think there's shirts and things you can donate and get something to I think set up but they've been great and I want to give them a big shout out and thank them but yeah that's it if you go to Sweet Relief Jesse Mal and it's just right up there or on my website and then Glass Notes Records put this out and Daniel Glass the head of that label was the guy gave me my first record contract at EMI when he was the president there with degeneration in the 90s and then he was at Artemis when my first solo record came out so it's been really beautiful that Daniel's been so great to take his label and put out a triple record set which Ross the colored vinyl I mean it's been it's insane I don't know of a triple record just in Sandin East that I even thought it's you know owning his soul Side six silver patron saints is the tribute album these shows at the Beacon are coming up Argentina is the new song from Jesse Mal and dude so good to hear from you so good to hear you doing so well Yeah thank you guys it's really great to talk again and thanks for all the support and everybody out there too for all the help I'll see you soon Anthropics Claude is AI backed by uncompromising integrity Claude is run by responsible leadership who have an ethical approach to the development of AI while providing strong data security and putting humanity first Storing alone or building with a team Claude can help you do your best work securely discover how Claude can transform your work and business at anthropic.com/claud or find Claude on Apple and Android app stores The phone 16 pro con 80 and T next up anytime is como la primera visquita salio bien la salsa picante de mama discover como tenel mobile iPhone 16 pro con camera control and 80 and T T&T y'l ultimate iPhone cat ano con 80 and T next up anytime la furta de cero de la respo de nuestar de sponible and futuro siphones la función next up anytime pote de discontinue arse en cuile que memento su heto cambos a pli concargos terminos y restexiones busita a tepun to con de con al iphone para más de taiz Welcome back to sound up many thanks to Jesse Malin great to talk to that man Each and every week we ask you the sound up pod squad to send us your questions concert reviews album reviews and more to get involved join our Facebook page at sound up pod com stay connected to everything sound up related including our future live events Yes underline that in your calendar sending your comments or reviews as text or audio messages to connect at sound up pod com become part of the podcast We received this audio review from pod squad or Scott who missed us in Cleveland sadly we missed you as well Scott he was helping friends recover from these recent hurricanes Hey everybody here's a quick concert review from Scott and Houston last Wednesday I saw rising star Conan Gray live in concert the 2000s heat venue is packed with infatuated teenage females that sang every lyric to every song at the top of their lungs The performance was infectious and Conan bounced off the energy from the audience all night seeing his most popular melancholy bedroom pop songs from his latest album found heaven and his sophomore album super egg He looked and sounded amazing it was thrilled to be back in his home state of Texas at 25 years old this all inclusive young singer songwriter is definitely one to keep an eye on I have tickets to see Morrissey on Halloween I'll send in a poolside review if he decides to show up thanks guys He's always mind the pool the right spirit in which to enter a Morrissey show love that fantastic thank you Scott excellent Conan Gray is a name to me but I have to say I have not listened so good endorsement We got a review of a great show in Boston from Eric from another pod squatter okay here's what Eric had to say I had the pleasure of going to Cindy Lauper's girls just want to have fun farewell tour at the MGM musical of Fenway in Boston on Saturday October 26 I knew about the tour thanks to listening to the podcast see we do good work here Amanda Shire was a strong open to the show since it was also a celebration of women in music Then after a 20 minute break Cindy played for about one hour and 50 minutes and sounded amazing and almost operatic at times book ended by two of her greatest bangers she Bob to start and girls just want to have fun to close It wasn't just a concert but a celebration of Cindy's career and persona complete with four costume changes including one on stage and short video reels and pictures from over the years on the big screen But she made sure to tell us I'm not actually retiring but I am going to stop with these longer tours because after all I'm freaking 71 years old Looking back after the show I was surprised to see that the setlist was only 16 songs it felt like more but then I realized it's because between songs there was plenty of fun quirky and spontaneous banter as you would expect from Cindy Although it was mostly fun banter she did interspersed some more serious moments involving social issues and meaningful moments slash people in her career Some artists you go mostly through the music and get a little personality mixed in between the songs with Cindy personality is the highlight of the show I am so glad I got to go Thank you and thanks for all you do for the music geek community Eric great review the music geek community I didn't know Amanda Shires was I don't know if she's opening the whole thing but that's a really interesting opener for Cindy Lauper Yeah I think we have to just say just in passing it's a kind of a surprise that all of a sudden she's not retiring this was the farewell tour You know everybody does the it's well it's my farewell tour that doesn't mean I'm never going to play again it doesn't mean I'm not going to do other Just said the other week did we say it on air who has actually retired and you said it Bob Seeger that said it that's the one else I don't know who else I don't know who else I think every year we're going to do a farewell podcast You know it works brings him in brings him in Roger you would know this how many farewell tours did kiss to There was two there was a farewell tour that was supposed to be the farewell tour but it was just a farewell tour them saying goodbye to Ace and Peter and then they went on Farewell to our bandmates tour it's not inaccurate it's just how you go with some copy left off the poster I think We thank you for your reviews always it's really great to hear from you and your experiences we do have some new music picks before we get out of here You want to start you want to go ahead Alan alright I'm going to show my age which is a specific age with these two I am delighted to be able to say there is new music from Shadde Adu Is she using that released as Shadde Adu I think as the first time yeah releasing music under as a you know solo name rather than Shadde as the band name Yeah this really interesting project from the Red Hot organization called Transa the full thing is coming out November 22nd and it is dozens and dozens and dozens of songs in support of and celebrating trans people with all kinds of artists Julian Baker Laura Jane Grace Teddy Geiger Claro Adrian Lanker on and on and on but they've been releasing a few of these at a time building to that November 22nd release and last week among the there was a new Andre 3000 track Sam Smith with Beverly Clopeland the trans composer and this new song from Shadde again under her name that is a song honoring celebrating sort of apologizing to her trans son about their relationship it's called Young Lion and it's you know basically a song saying I needed to learn along the way what this was and now I'm here and see your strength and support you for all that Wow and really great you know very beautiful lovely very sparse very like Shadde but even less sort of that kind of funk Shadde yeah very stripped but it's been six years since we've heard any music from her I think there was a soundtrack theme that came out six years ago is what I remember the last album is however many years ago but that this cause was enough to get her to do something clearly something I don't know if it was written specifically for this compilation or she'd written it anyway and this was the excuse to use it but very much on theme for what this project is the Red Hot organization has been doing fantastic work since the early 90s initially in AIDS research and you know continuing to expand through different issues around the LGBTQ+ community This is a hugely ambitious project but new song from Shadde Adu called Young Lion is my first select my second also super weird a new album that came out on Friday from Lone Justice Where the hell did you I'm a massive fan I saw that nowhere we have talked about Lone Justice as one of the great lost great hopes of all time did two albums in the 80s and nothing since Maria McKee went on to do different Maria McKee stuff people mostly know or I think from the song and the Pulp Fiction soundtrack and I've been trying like hell to figure out what this is near as I can determine at some point in the 90s three of the members of Lone Justice did some sessions together I think just kind of screw it around and then recently and I think especially after Don Heffington died they found these I think Marvin Ezioni found these tracks and was like well we have them and sent them to Maria and sent them to my guest the bass player who's Marvin Ezioni so he was the guitar player in the band right and went on to produce and went on he's the one who sort of went on to do other stuff so who put this out I don't even know what the label is I can go back and look but I mean is it those three now they're blown justice all four of the Lone Justice member it's kind of like the Beatles track right oh okay it's three of them played on it but now the fourth overdubbed and I think Maria did some other stuff and it's but then there's also some live stuff there's also some like other stuff something was apparently from a later session I don't know what this is and it's super chaotic and really what they do a cover it's mostly covers including I will always love you okay we need another now Dolly Parton was a big Lone Justice fan to be fair of the undertones teenage kicks one cow yes so crazy what I am going to send you to is a version of George Jones nothing can stop my loving you with the Cajun accordion player Joel Sonia playing with them I don't know what it is it's called Viva Lone Justice it's the first recordings in 38 years from this band and does the world need it I'm not sure the world needs it but just to hear those voices and all that stuff I'm going to say we're done here I'm looking for this I'm dying to hear especially now that these insane covers they're doing now are reaching most of what it is so it's wild you only to a lot a lot of time it's ten songs and it's exactly 30 minutes long nice in and out boom so Chate and Lone Justice is what I'm bringing you it could be 1986 but you know there you go Roger what he got you know I was going through the new music on Friday and I couldn't find anything that I really liked and I was getting kind of bummed I didn't know about the Lone Justice and there was some interesting stuff but nothing that was like really grabbing me and then I found this new album Evergreen from soccer mommy aka Sofia Regina Allison and the song Abigail and it is just so good I love everything she does but she seems to be getting better as time goes on this is her fourth album and it's really got kind of a 90s Sunday's Mazzi star meets like the happier cure kind of stuff to it and then I went to the website to check out you know what this is all about and apparently while the album was coming out she put a note on her website that said I wanted Evergreen to feel like you're laying outside, eyes closed, the sun is on you and you can feel the warmth, the flowers and the trees so share your location to find a park near you where you can listen to Evergreen before it's released so I guess she was giving away like geo located geo located streams yeah which is really cool and you know after listening to this album now I want to go outside and lay in a park and listen to it and get that vibe but it's really really cool the song is really really beautiful and I can't wait to dig into the rest of the record and just big, big soccer mom she's great love her alright I'm going out with it just sort of happened three songs that are perfect for Halloween week you know we're going a little scary little dark Beth Hart who I am I'm a massive fan of since I heard her do a song called California in California that placement made me a fan she has a new album just out called you still got me and the song the new single featuring slash on guitar savior with a razor and here's a lyric dig my bad bones out of the trash sell my sick soul keep the cash kiss the preacher kiss my ass I'm a rager like a savior razor I'm taking the devil down yes Beth Hart some brand new from her with slash it's smoking definitely smoking also the next one from the black keys featuring Alice Cooper stay in your grave Beth Hart we watched the muppet show with Alice Cooper as the guest last night for whatever reason what year would that have been oh like 1976 oh my god was he he was Alice by then yeah oh he was fully Alice that was the whole that's when he does welcome to my nightmare and all that right oh that's amazing well this is the black keys and this is from the trophy edition of Ohio players see that's what they're calling the expanded version of that and there is this regional Mexican singer songwriter Danny Lux who is on this track he's sort of brand new and thanks to the black keys for giving him some time stay in your grave is the track and also the final one is the beginning of the end that's my final Hollywood track from the album called the Pink Cactus Cafe it's a band called the Cortinas featuring the DMAs I'm a DMAs fan I've been talking about them for years they're an Australian sort of pop band that have gone you know sort of pop emo and they've gotten a little harder rock in these days so it's them featuring the Cortinas featuring the DMAs the Cortinas are British from Greater Manchester and it's this guy they're front man Liam Frey who does all the singing does the writing and originally this band originally formed under the name dirty MOS that's MA apostrophe S abbreviating it the dirty MOS this is the DMAs so what would that be the dirty MOS there yeah that's right the dirty right you can figure it out in any case the the pink cactus cafe the beginning of the end is the tune Cortinas featuring the DMAs all of this music is there for you on our Spotify sound up soundtrack playlist it is there for you we will add these just as quickly as we can probably by the time you're here in this I think that they should be up on Spotify Mark work in the dark side of the new music this week but that's what was grabbing me you know I guess I'm feeling a little dark so we wish everybody a happy Halloween I hope you have your costume worked out know what you're going to do that's going to wrap it up go to sound up pod.com find out how you can be a part of our live sound up sound off podcast taping email us at connect at sound up pod.com and don't forget to check us out on socials and on YouTube for exclusive content full video episodes and more all at sound up pod subscribe to the podcast subscribe to the YouTube page give us those five star reviews all that stuff matters and adds up so keep in touch thanks for listening and supporting us here on sound up 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On episode #65 of “Sound Up!,” Mark and Alan welcome Jesse Malin to discuss the all-star benefit album “Silver Patron Saints,” his new single, and his ongoing recovery from a spinal stroke. Alan describes his night judging Taylor Swift karaoke, and Pod Squad listeners review Cyndi Lauper and Conan Gray. In music news, we recall the passing of Liam Payne and Phil Lesh and talk about the reaction to Alex Van Halen’s memoir and the Concert for Carolina benefit. This week’s new music picks feature tracks from Sade Adu, Lone Justice, Soccer Mommy, Beth Hart, and the Black Keys with Alice Cooper.
