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stuff about all of ten lines down at the new mission there's a whole list of things that somebody can find and what he's supposed to do with them documents matza agroi shum let's see finds a court overseeing assessment documents or egrois muzzling document overseen by the court that husband agrees to support the daughters of a new wife meaning like the daughter's issues bring it in from a previous relationship or starry how leads a documenting that a how it took place or me on is with a when a father who has the right to marry off his minor daughter to somebody that daughter has the right to refuse that marriage up until she is a twelve years old and there would be a document that would document that and starry be rewren which is we'll just call it for now clarification documents the whole misa base and for that matter any other document which is processed with the court which apparently all of these are how raise a yachts here it they get returned period let's you find a star in a half is so or in a delis comma different types of a receptacles or a tag with shell starry's or a sort of like rolled up starry's or an aguta shell stars there's also like a bunch of rolled up starry's we'll see what those are when you get to the camara harry's yachts are you would yes return it comma go to show starry's how many documents are there in an aguta at least a schlesha three churren's a buzzer that are attached one to the other resume them lia lui box nightmare echad hallava michles let's see you find three documents and it's the same lova the same borrower each time yeah so lova the likelihood is that these documents fell from the borrower and you return it therefore to the borrower schlesha halava mina echad if you have those three different people borrowing from the same lender then the likelihood is a fell from the lender and who should you return it to yachts or give it back l-malfa to the lender as named in the document period monsa star bane starry's up let's you find you have your documents file cabinet whatever you have a bunch of them and you find somebody else's starbucks for documents they knew a damn a tivot you have no idea how in the world that got into your pile of starry's what do you do with it well not much in one of us you really are put it on top of the bookcase basically it says stays you can't wait because you don't exactly know like how it got there what the circumstances regarding it are period and last point in yach iman symphon let's see you find amongst your documents a receipt like you lend out a bunch of money you have a bunch of starry's that are indicative of money that people owe you and let's say you find how there's a receipt in here and the receipt says one of those documents is paid off then yasima shivis symphonice you do that which is in the whatever it says so if it says that Bob paid off the five hundred dollars you look through your documents and indeed you lent bar five hundred about five hundred dollars apparently you have to do that which it says so that loan has been paid off what do you remember it or not but that's what you got to do okay ask the gamara when we mentioned in the on the second line of the mission of these starry bayruin live our rare is to clarify so what what are clarification documents will two approaches haja over here in boville targimu they explain that starry tah nasa sort of like the court has a document which records the what the disclaimer said what the other claim is that basically the claims and the counter claims of the ballet denim that's what shari barun is and I guess would be returned to the court for their official files rabir mia says it's different it's it when you have two parties that are coming to court often the practices that one party chooses one of the judges the other party chooses the other one and then there's a third judge so the shari bayruin clarification is clarification for the judges of the case are zebaire loy this side chooses die in x echat vazebaire and this side chooses die in y that's what shari barun are it documents the judges that were chosen by each side the home isa based in raisie axier said the mission and all say court overseeing documents or documents are processed because of the court through the court um get returned here's a little story we had it just a few days ago here it is again oh gita there was a divorced document each da ka ba dina de rafuna that was uh found in oh well look at this in rafuna's court they're on her say yo a uh uh a get to have a sieve bay the identification of the um where the uh issue took place was documented in the get it said bish virimata rakus nara on the city of sferi on the uh rakus river amar rafuna so rafuna who is the it was his court he was the chief justice the aficion chief justice he said uh hai shinan le schnay sferi um are even though there was a um sferi that they knew about they weren't sure whether there might be another sferi on some other rakus river maybe even much for their upstream or downstream of the rakus river um and that was the issue are we hoshes for that or not so in the crowd was too uh up and coming uh torus scholars raf chista and raba says raf chista raba uh raba poke iron uh go out and look into the entire memorized body of uh today's sources that you have de la orta because come the evening when the court finishes and we have like our learning session together was rafuna boila rafuna minak rafuna is going to point to you and ask you what you think about the issue are we hoshes for two schwiries or not so nafak uh raba did just that he went uh drash drash he was precise in all his learning and he actually found seemingly if rafuna was saying was it were hoshes for schwiries he found quite of the contrary uh did snan there's a uh mishna and the mishna says kolmysa based in harazi yaksir uh okay like anything in the court is gets returned and it sounds like you would yes return it in other words you would um not be hoshes for two schwiries i'm like rava mamla raba sort of i'm who's a another student says to uh raba one second uh that what was found in the basin was a get isha divorce document how are you haiti pashitmar how are you possibly concluding uh isura me mamayna how are you going to conclude that for a get isha uh you're trying to conclude from the uh mishna which is an issue of mamana's might be faced in our mamana's issues monetary issues amarlay says back raba to rava amram teardah teardah roughly translated in tinglish's lunatic moron retard drooling fool uh he was not happy raba with the rava mamra approach why because included in the mishna was also starry chalice and meunin and chalice and meun that's also isurin is a woman who uh you know is she considered haloosa is she still with her deceased husband's brother is uh meun also is she married so those were listed off now um clearly had two very opinionated individuals here um so much so pakar are to be around there was some significant beam in the base medrich that snapped and each side insisted that it snapped because of the intensity to defend their honor maramamishum lassai di di pakar uh this one i guess raba said you know why it smashed because it was my muzzle that felt it had been insulted and that's why it uh it exploded or broke umaram and the other one i guess uh rava mam said the same thing uh mishum lassai di di pakar said the mishna matsu pakarafisa by duliska let's say the finder finds it in some sort of jafisa duliska what what are these things what's a jafisa well amaraba barov abar bahrana hemas katana a small leather skin like a canteen my duliska what's a duliska amaraba bar schmuel tlika desabi it's that sort of uh backpack or purse that the old people have okay um taco shell starry's or an agouta shell starry's that was listed off in the mishna a takarana a gouda tanarabana in a little bit of clarity what is a takarich and what's an agouta so tanarabana the where we can say brice it goes for about two and a half lines and starts here kama who takarana line takar shell starry's how how many documents is it well schloisha it's three or possibly more keruchans that by the i squeal underline the uh crookan that are rolled together okay and that's like the uh simmon um that the rightful owner will say the guy who found it will say i found some starry's and the guy who's claiming that he's the rightful owner will come and say yeah they're mine there's three and they were uh rolled up like that the kama he agouta so i underline agouta with the other uh presentation the mission was a case of an agouta a bundle of stars how much is that well that's schloisha kishurin i dot underline the term kshurin zepos that are a little like tied or um or attached one to the other okay well that's the end of the snake source shamis minash we conclude from here that keshir the uh the tieing or the uh the way it's attached or the type of not that's used is a valid simmon um not necessarily answers the gomorrah hot tani rebithia um rebithia taught in explaining what exactly an agouta is in agouta of starry's he said that it's schloisha crookan zepos and i dot underline crookan which is a three that are apparently uh rolled up together well one second what do we say attack was above like three lines ago we said those were three crookan i harki asked the gomorrah high new tarkrik well then the way the tani rebithia will explain what a agouta is is the same as what a tarkrik is so actually not necessarily the gomorrah explains they're different tarkrik equals what's a tarkrik of starry's right they're rolled up at kolkat rakhad berosia de kavertas so you you line up the starry's uh the top of one star next to the bottom of the next and then the top of that one and then when you roll it you roll one and then the next one next and sort of like a uh a paper towel a roll of paper towels one after the other after the other whereas an agouta imagine if you tear off three paper towels put them one on top of the other and then roll the three of them together that's a agouta de rami aha dadi you place the starry's one on top of the other or the three paper towels one on top of the other who crook has and then roll them up okay the guy who finds it my makras i squeal on my makras what exactly is he supposed to um announce as far as when he found them so that people come the right floater and get them well uh minion so uh he announces how many he found and i guess the one who claims he lost them will say how they were uh situated like how they were rolled up well one second if what he's announcing is the minion how many there are there mayiria plusa why is it only if there's three or more found together afilo train nami even if there's two right since the uh right floater doesn't have to give the sim and how many there were but rather how they were rolled up so why not even if you found two ela rather we squiggle on the ela a new approach kadamar ravina like uh ravina says elsewhere that we're talking about tiv uh makras um that the finder uh announces let's say you found a bunch of coins as he say quarters times nickels does he say how much none he just says coins is what he found hakanami what the um person who found them will announce is not how many he'll just say starry makras um i found documents okay and then the one who lost them will have to come and say well uh this is how many there were and this is how they were rolled together that's uh according to rashi the micha continued uh line quote from the micha shinwalia leimer echa leva michlais jiaksa leiva okay so if uh you find some documents together and it's the same person who's borrowing from three different uh um lenders you return it to the borrower why do you say deitach de mauvin and then who if the documents really belong to the different mauvin my bow gabi adaadi then why are they exactly all together that doesn't make any sense well look morris says i'll tell you why maybe dillmo le quieu minuazli maybe they were being taken by some sort of uh shalia to be court validated and you know this guy goes around and he collects different people's stars and validates them in the court well no that can't be the case because demikaimi the stars that were found were already court validated well asked the gomara who does the court validation the scribe who's in the service of the court so maybe dillmo me ada de saffron awful maybe the scribe he's got a whole bunch of documents that he wrote into them the court validation and it fell from him well no because if a person has an iou let's say i'm holding an iou on bob that says he owes me ten thousand dollars i'm not going to let that thing really out of my sight lo mashi inish quie maybe ada saffron i'm basically going to go to court and if i'm going to have a valid i have a validated as soon as validated i will immediately take it back shalia shilov le meachad the mission continued and said if you had three people uh three different people all borrowing from the same lender then you can definitely assume this uh belongs to the lender and you go back to him yachsir le mauva why dillmozli ditar de lovindenu if you were to think that they belong to the three different borrowers then why exactly were they all together my boy or ma bao gabi ha-dadi why were they all together that doesn't make sense it's probably the lenders well maybe dillmo mr vin who asked me the reason all together is because they had to be written up so you have one lender and you have a different different borrowers and they were just to be uh written up by the same sofa and the sofa drops it maybe well no that's not the case because you see there's clearly three different hand writings writing these three different documents the cv bits last three different u-day soft three three different uh scribes right you can clearly tell because there's three different hand writing styles the dillmo the q me no asi well maybe they were taken to to be a court validated maybe that's what happened and they dropped uh well no that doesn't make sense either because mauva makayam l'estare the person who's holding the document to collect from somebody else it's in their best interest definitely to have it court validated because that gives them the strong ability to collect lova but to say the borrower took it to be why in the world will the borrower take it to be court documented it's a waste of his time with his money and he's the one who has to pay back if the level wants to find but the lova lo makayam story is not in the normal practice of being makayam the documents that they themselves are holding says that michinai michima simfinais yasim shaba simfinais okay uh if they have uh along with this is the last line in the michinai i guess you uh find amongst your documents a uh receipt um then you would just follow along with ever with whatever the receipt says period or period we're gonna start a slightly discussion we're gonna bring this back in armor of yurmin baraba marabai circle drops name rob says it's gonna be a little bit not like what our mission just said but rob says simfinais mitaka si de maulva the maulva is the one who lent out the money the maulva finds a receipt that uh seems to say that the money lent out had already been paid off but it's in his possession alphabu shikosa bixav yada even though it's written in his handwriting a new elkam esa cecou puzzle it's basically like a joke or it's not real and basically it's not valid the the lender doesn't have to assume that actually the money was paid back just because he finds a receipt in his possession that says it was paid back now normally what is a when does the lender write that out well when the guy pays back the money and uh gives it to the lova but yet the maulva has it so continues robin says lo me bia i don't even have to tell you kasabixad yada soyfer where if it's written in a professional scribe's handwriting deca le maimar where there's a very reasonable possibility that you could say saffra isrami leva kasab that the sofer wrote it and just happened to write it not that actually was um validating something that might have happened ela afilo even if this is the maulva and he finds uh a receipt kasabixad yada in his handwriting still it's puzzle as a receipt why saver why in the world would he pre-write out a receipt i'll tell you why because he lent out let's say a thousand dollars to bop he is concerned bop might show up on like friday late afternoon come back and on the door uh here's the money i'm gonna pay you back and i need a receipt but he doesn't have a receipt so he's concerned don't miss rami the usy benish mashais maybe it'll come it'll be late uh benish mashais late in the afternoon vikkap para lee and the guy is going to want to pay me back and i'll have the cash however he wants a receipt do you like a hivna lei if i don't give him a receipt lei of lee zusi ain't going to give me my cash money back therefore he figures i'll just pre-write out a receipt echta even i'll write it out now de ky icley zusi so when brings me the cash money at somebody i'll have the receipt ready to go okay that's what rob said basically a person finds a receipt amongst his documents it doesn't take it seriously as though the loan was uh paid back to him really it's not i put a triangle in this non two lines later i put a triangle in the tashma three lines below that first term on the line is tashma two lines later on the bottom line second term is tashma all those get triangles and on the second line of kaf alif um would alif is another tashma so we're going to have five today sources now each one of them is going to be brought as a question what rob just said and again what rob just said is basically if uh you're the lender and you find a document that says that the borrower paid it off as a receipt and uh yeah it's not real you didn't actually give it so uh it's not well our mission what did our mission say about that our mission talked about here's a uh quote right angles um im yash ima and symphonice yeah semashia semphonice the mission said if you have like receipt along with it you got to follow along with whatever the receipt says well that's a cash on rob rob says you find a receipt amongst your documents you don't take it seriously and here it seems like you uh follow it as though it's uh what happened well kadama of saffra the way we answer this is similar to what rosafra is going to say in about five six lines from now shanim subin star race keruen or pruen you find it not amongst your regular documents the iohus that you're holding on other people but rather amongst your torn or like already paid off documents now why in the world is it there hachanami so it's over here shimatsu bin star's crew and you find it amongst your torn or already paid off documents okay that's when you would do what is in the symphon because the only reason it would be there is because it must have been that what it says happened actually happened so tashma another triangle another's an exhaust uh says this today's source goes just over a line i box it off nimso echad ben staroisov let's have a person he's got uh his file of all of the iohusa people star is that he's holding that other people owe money and it says on a receipt quote starry shalyou subin shiman parua the star the um document of joe the son of simon has been paid off and let's say there's two people in town named joe the son of simon both who borrowed money and and it was not clear uh who's it is starry shnein pru and you have to assume that both um of the joseph in shimmons or however many other shiman shimmons are i have paid off their document okay that again seems like you give great believability to this receipt that you found amongst your documents well kadam rasafra like rasafus as else where shnim sashman starry see the crew in her pru and hachanami so to in this case i'm answer we gave in the previous um ta uh today's source hachanami where you find this receipt it's a receipt that says that um excuse me that the loan was paid off hachanami shnim so you find it not amongst your regular starry's but amongst your sort of like garbage file starry's the stars that are crewing already torn up and destroyed tashma another triangle on this tashma if you have uh is simon and they're coming to collect dad's debts so you have uh to make source here goes from a line and a half um they have to uh take a schwa shlei pakad nuaba we swear that dad didn't like tell us anything about this debt um ushalei amra lanaaba didn't say anything to us didn't give it to us ushalei matzano ben shtaraisov and we didn't find we like went through all of his documents we didn't find amongst his documents shalab of uh artisees uh father shi stars that parua that this uh document is paid off now if they would have gone through the documents and found that there was a simphon like a receipt then the assignment would not have been able to collect it again that sounds very much like a receipt found uh would be valid well and here's where if saffra said it amra of saffra no shinim subin shtarais either kruin or pruin same thing again is is it was found basically in the trash file or the trash can of uh recedes tashma another to make source triangle the tashma this to make source says simphon shiei shalab adem if you have a receipt that it has uh two people signed uh bob and carl yes kaiim established a validity of it be chaismav uh with the signatures rashi says on the not the bottom line but the second last line in the rashi's yes kaiim be chaismav kasakatai tashai squiggle underline we'll read the rashi inside i squiggle underline the kasakatai tash ima mama rava if the a lender says lo ne fratih i wasn't paid back veteda no that's the case or elan massarti leat rai i didn't give it over to you yes kaiim be chaismav you should establish the validity of the receipt in other words uh testifying that receipt that the um loan was paid back al p raismav yes kaiim which ima kasaymav may eden shihas mu if you go to a bob and carl and say yep that's our signatures we signed it in a mama naman then the one who lent out the money is not believed however as long as it wasn't mikai empty would be believed why because he's the one the mauva who's the one who's producing the receipts and mama ficla who's the one with the net is the mauva well the mauva's one who's saying that it's invalid okay now that sounds like uh we give significance to it ama answers the uh gomara don't say yes kaiim be chaismav rather yes kaiim me chaismav you're not getting the two guys to say yeah those are our signatures rather you're going to validate it through those who signed it that they know the facts of the case connector to shyleen on the who we ask them uh hey fellas did did you see the money paid back and if they uh say that it was paid back then we assume it is but if not then the mauv is believed to say that it was never paid back iparua to shyleen will we we find bob and carl and we ask them and if they say it was paid back fine but if not uh we ask we ask them iparua elo parua and and therefore at the symphine that that receipt in of itself like robin said has no uh validity so tashma etrangel the fifth teneic source which we're going to bring as an attempt to question rob this one says it goes all of five words symphine she shall have adem a uh receipt that has witnesses is kosher okay now what do we mean by witnesses though my adem what we mean is a day keel in other words is a hempic there's a court validation on there and that's what we mean by adem kosher hokanami star but it actually makes sense to say that the signature is the signatures of the court validation midikatani safe as since the leader part of that same today's source we had one line ago says that four words i boxed off usia even a love adem puzzle and a receipt without witnesses is invalid now my three words and right angles and all of adem what did the price it just mean when it said if it doesn't have witnesses if elamor you want to say that what it means is lekah adem clah or de lekah ela vay adem called there's no witnesses at all well like of course it doesn't have any validity three calamor deposit of course that's invalid what do we mean then alla love that when we say it doesn't have witnesses you're not talking about right the winners we're talking about a day keel it doesn't have however it does have adem kaszumim and therefore rafsallah holds true period gufa we quoted today's source so we had a little bit of earlier and add a little bit the brice here goes almost three lines a symphony in a receipt shayyashal av adem that has witnesses yisqayim bhachaysmav you establish it through the witnesses enal av adem if it does not have witnesses meaning like it doesn't have a day keel but it does have regular witnesses signed on it the yosimitakse de schliche and it's actually whipped out not by either malvar the lova by a third party oh shayyashalakh alchitum star rice or it the uh it comes after the document was actually signed then it would be kosher that's the end of the today's source we go over those two halakas the first one uh yosimitakse de schliche that if it gets produced by a third party we basically will accept whatever the schliche claims if he says the loan wasn't paid it wasn't paid it was paid it was paid now why are we going to give such a believability to the schliche because the schliche by definition was somebody was chosen by both the malva and the lova and therefore if he says it was paid the schliche says it was paid well the malva trusted the guy in the first place and therefore we got to go with the schliche's the hahemne milva lish lish schliche becomes a schliche when he's appointed and agreed upon by both the malva and the lova that he'll be the trusted party to hold on if he said it was paid we got to go with it and finally yosilach al-ritum starryce if it goes out after the signatures are signed nami the symphony is good de la vipriev not for the fact that it was certainly paid off lo have marale le starry there's no way a person would uh put such a detrimental piece of information onto his star and therefore it definitely seems that it was paid and I'm your host, Shnaheem Uyksen, Adkhan.