(upbeat music) Back in Onkonok Central, it's Danricho Satyarsha. We're in the Kintek Studio, and ends of the second hour of the program. It is Wednesday. And you know what happens on a Wednesday here onkonok Central. It's overrated, underrated. (sings) Yes, overrated, underrated. Perfectly rated. You give us topics and we decide if they are one of those three things. Overrated, underrated, or? Perfectly rated. Josh will tell us tonight if he thinks we overrated Dune II. In IMAX, Pacifics, yes. I love that. I went and saw it on Sunday, and I honestly want to go back and watch it again in IMAX. Yes. Hey, come along at 10 o'clock tonight. Tonight might be a little bit too late. Yeah, IMAX is not sponsoring this, but it, for that movie, it felt worth it, you know? It felt worth it to go to the theater and experience it. Just throwing that out there. Didn't watch Dune I in theater at all. Yeah. Kind of hampered the experience. Do you have like a home movie theater? No. No. Do you know about your theater? (laughter) Anything could be your home theater. Yes. You know, it's your home theater. You could have bought a surround sound system off some guy in a parking lot, I don't know. No, I have a sound bar. Did that ever happen here? It was like a, this is such a wood bridge thing, I guess. But like, you'd go to Best Buy, and then the parking lot guys would be like, "Hey, you want a surround sound system?" Yeah, I just-- Now what am I drunk? The A and B sound back in the day. Some dude hanging out with like, subwoofers. I don't know if I trust this. So yeah. But it's only 50 bucks, so maybe I will. I don't have that. Yeah. All right. We'll start with this one from, I didn't know how to do this right away. We'll start with this one from Kishan. Perfering to play a stumbling Vegas Golden Knights in the playoffs over a team that would be on a streak to get in like the Minnesota Wild would be. Oh. Okay. So, Vegas or Minnesota? I think I'd still prefer Minnesota. I would agree with you on that. I'd probably rather still play Minnesota, 'cause Vegas, you're worried about in the playoffs, more than you're worried about them getting to the playoffs. I'm more worried about them and, you know, getting to the playoffs, but I'm worried about them in terms of like an opponent in the playoffs. I still do think though, they are far more mortal than people would believe. Yes. But if they weren't the reigning Stanley Cup champions, you'd kind of just view them as a wild card team right now. Yeah. I don't know. I think people would still put more credit into them, just based on the players they have on their team. Yeah, but also like Stone is injured. Hurdle's not gonna be ready yet. You know, it's, you know, they're, they got some issues. Hanifen hasn't had the desired effect just yet. Aiden Hill has calmed down after he was unreal to start the season. There's just not, there's not a lot about Vegas that's going well right now. So I can, I think it's, honestly Vegas is pretty, based on their results, they are being heavily overrated. Based on what they have on paper, they are being heavily overrated compared to what they've actually put on paper this season. Because, I mean, we ran the numbers earlier in the show. Basically over the last 47 games, they're a 500 hockey team. Yeah. 21, 22, 21 and five. That's more than half a season. Yeah. It's a long time. If the script was flipped and, well, I guess, you know, if they started the first 47 games of the season being very mid and then went on a hot streak, you'd be like, "Oh, look at Vegas, they're coming on at the right time." But regardless, you're not thinking about the Vegas Golden Knights this way if they weren't the team with the track record that they have and the team that won the Stanley Cup last year. Next one from Woodrow, keeping Dakota Joshua out of the lineup until the playoffs started. I mean, that's overrated. Yeah. Why would you want to do that? I don't know. I mean, he's on like a league minimum contract. Yeah. You don't get any cap savings. You wouldn't get cap savings. I guess 100K, you'd say, by sending him that. Is it? By replacing him with somebody who's making less than he is. Is the supposed benefit that it's like, "Hey, give him extra rest time"? Well, he's getting extra rest time. 'Cause the Hope had been, he'd be ready by now. They had kind of hoped. And I wouldn't say it's been a setback. It's more about, it's the progression or lack of progression with his injury. But he's going to play. Like he's like, I thought, and this is something it was a, it was an educated guess. When we were asked, when is he going to skate? The Hope had been this week that he would have been skating with the team and that just didn't come to pass. But I don't think he's that far away. Next one from Mike. Sitting guys for load management down the stretch. Underrated. Well, it depends for who. Yeah, I think there's some guys on the scene that I think could use it. Yes. Let's say in the situation, it's like, you're near the end of the season and you're like, okay, there's no, no way. There will be any playoff movement like the Canucks are locked in a position. And you sit one of the star players. How many guys could you realistically sit though? No, I guess not much. What, so the way I view it is during the year, you can maybe sit Myers another game. No, he's coming off her injury, Ian Cole. Yeah, Ian Cole could be, he could use a maintenance day or two. Good luck telling J.T. Miller to sit down a game. Yeah. I think the only way you can sit down a couple of other top end guys is that final game of Winnipeg. If they have, let's say for argument's sake that they can't move up or down. If there's nothing to play for, there's nothing to play for. Actually an exhibition game, yeah. Then I can see them. Now, because of the recalls, if they use all the recalls, by the time they get there, they may only have so many options because you can't dress. I mean, if you had healthy guys, you got to dress 18 skaters and the two goalies, right? So you have two extra defensive and one extra forward. Those are the three spots that you can kind of play. Maybe you go with 7D for instance, but I can see that final game of the season in Winnipeg, they tell J.T. and Quinn to stay home for instance. They should just send like six dudes to Winnipeg and be like, "Figure it out, guys." - Yeah, yeah. - We're all mad at it. - We're all mad at it. "Have fun, she loves." Next one from Drew. The Silly Pot Colson in the NHL games he has played this season, overrated or underrated? - I don't think it's overrated because I don't think we're sitting here and talking about him being this in deck tech real part of the team. And I don't know if it's underrated because he has no points in eight games. So he's perfectly rated? - Kind of, yeah. I think he's doing fine. - I feel as though some are overrating it, trying to convince themselves that PODs has shown a lot. - Well, I mean, we had people texting in earlier and saying, you know, Colin from Caribou said, "Why not put put Colson in the bumper spot "on the power plate?" - He, of any left shot on the team, he probably would have maybe one of the more dangerous ones to put in the bumper spot. Um, but I need seven games without any points. It's hard for me to gush about the player. I've liked some things. I think he's come a long way from what I saw in training camp. But am I sitting here saying POD Colson is the answer or POD Colson is gonna play a big playoff role? I don't, I don't have any confidence necessarily in that. He can be 12 to 13th forward. - Yeah. - Pretty much what he's shown so far. So if you're telling me that you're thinking PODs is shown more than that to this point, then I'd say you're overrating him. Other than that, I think you're probably perfectly rating him. - No points in seven games. Who does he think he is? A Last Lindholm? - Right. Am I right? Yeah. - Somewhat. - A Last Lindholm is J. Beagle. J. Beagle is the last Lindholm. - Spider-Man meme? (laughing) Next one from Striden, a Andre Kuzmenko video tribute on Saturn. - All right, Kuzmenko's first game back. - Oh wow. - Do you think he cries? I think he might cry. - He might, he might cry. - There will be a large outpouring of support for Andre Kuzmenko. - Don't be some. - Yeah. - Do you think he scores? - If he scores. - Narrative Street. - Just like, is that what you're picking then for Saturday's game? We have another game coming up before that, but you're picking them? - I mean, we might have to. Narrative Street would say that Andre Kuzmenko gets on the score sheets Saturday night. - Have to make that a selection then. - Or he doesn't. (laughing) - Those are the options. - Those are definitely the two options. There's only two ways out of this. I mean, I think Kuzmenko is gonna kind of go down as somewhat of a cult hero in Vancouver. - 100%. - Like he, you know, we will never forget the 39 goal year, the fun he provided last season. And then the content he provided this year with everything going on. And his battles with Rick Tockett, which I think weren't so much battles with them going head to head. It was more of Tockett trying to get him to play the type of hockey that he thought he needed to do to be successful on this team and that just not working out. - Yeah. - It's the one that, you know, Tockett couldn't tame, right? Out of all the guys. He's the one guy he couldn't tame. He's the one guy who couldn't, couldn't figure it out. - Two wild and free. - Yeah, yeah. - And of course those Bali videos, those were great too. - You knew the Bali stuff when it happened was met with like massive eye rolls by people in the organization. Perhaps, you know, a certain head coach. - Well, Jim Rutherford's comment, maybe his off season trading wasn't hockey focused enough. (laughs) I'm part of a paraphrasing, but it was something along those lines. - And Dan Milson will say like they were skating there, they made sure to set up, you know, ice and half skating. His session's ready for him, so it wasn't like he was just working out, but anytime you're throwing out those videos with him running upstairs, I'm like, that's not, like it's literally the shortest set of stairs I've seen. - Yes, I could do that. - Like it's the three of me that was crying. - And like he jumps down off his chair first to do it. I'm like, what is going on? - Yes. - Like why even post this? - So agile. - Don't post this, please. - So does he get a video tribute on Saturn? - Yes. - Or is it just like, hey, thanks, Andre, who's Manko? - I think there might be a video tribute. - Next one from Tyler, playoff promo nights. Like the white out, or I guess like see a red would qualify as well, overrated or underrated. - I would say overrated. You don't need a promo night in the playoffs. You don't need to-- - No, no, those are so fun. - You don't need to-- - You don't need to-- - You don't need to manufacture energy. - No, it's not a magazine. - You know what it is? - It just looks cool. - You know what it is? It's giving people things to put their energy into. - Yes. - Right? So the towel waving in Vancouver, like that's a Vancouver staple. - Yeah, but-- - Like in the playoffs. - No, it goes, and everybody does it now, but that was like a Vancouver thing. It's been going on since like the 80s. You know, playoff games in Vancouver, home games, the towel's coming out. That's what's happening in Vancouver. - And it's fantastic. I can't wait to see it. First game in the playoffs this year. - Okay. - I'm all for it. It's electric. - Would you ever want more than the towels? - But now it's like-- - It's like, well, you're gonna give a big t-shirts? - Yeah, like it's a blue t-shirt. - Promo night implies that it's like somehow manufactured to me. And the towel, the towel situation is like, it's organic. It's part of a-- - It's part of a big, super playoff hockey. - But they supply the towels. - They supply the towels. - Yeah, you're the brand-year-old towel, right? - The whiteout, like they supply the shirts, but it's also just like a Winnipeg thing. - Yes. - Yeah, I don't love the t-shirt thing. It looks too cultish for me. You know, like we all have to wear the same t-shirt. Like what, do you want to give me a pass round? - Oh, like supporting a sports team is a cultish at all. - Yeah. - You went to the game, aren't you? - They're like passing around. Dixie comes up like, what's going on? - Man, wearing a t-shirt is cultish, also sat. Joining the Chelsea supporters group. - In full chant, during an FA Cup third round match. - More or less. - I'm just saying. It just got disconcerting to me. It's like 20,000 people wearing the same thing, you know? Doesn't feel great. - All right, next one from basketball, Phil. Your confidence in Canada men's basketball at the Olympics this year. - I mean, I got a lot of confidence in Che Gogas Alexander, so. I feel confident that they're gonna have a chance to medal. I feel confident that they will medal. So, is that overrated and underrated? - It feels like a bold claim. - Yeah. - No, I feel good about Canada. See, why wouldn't you? - They got a lot of talent. - I feel good about them, but meddling after like not making the Olympics in how many years? - Hey man, listen. - My confidence is perfectly rated. - Yeah, I feel confident. - I feel confident. - It's like the Canucks this year. Hey, didn't make the playoffs for a while, but winning the Cup, right? - Yes. - Right? - Right? - Next one, Austin and Langley. - Fried game. - Man, we got so many questions about the fries. Apparently last night, the fry game was stepped up at Roger's Arena. - So people got extra fries. - They were overloading fries. They were like going to the five guys' route and just like throwing like three pounds of potatoes into your brown bag along with your burger. - Well, you know, it's one of those things where when I first saw it, I was like, I was like, so you didn't get quite as many fries? Like what's going on here? I don't know what the situation is. Like, I don't know what to say about this. Outside of making fun of it, but I'm like, what actually happened or whatever. But it seems like the situation was rectified. - It seems like they up their fry game. - They up their fry game. - Look, if you are going to a professional sporting event, at this point, you should know you will be overcharged for whatever it is you are going to buy in the building. - Yeah, but that shouldn't make it right. - It should not make it right. And if you're buying fries for eight dollars, you should get more than 14 fries or however many. - There's levels to, you expect to be overpaying, but you expect to at least be fully satisfied, hunger wise after. - And now how we established if this was a one off or an actual like habitual problem, not sure. - No, I don't think so. - Right, 'cause I mean, I did not see a lot of people messaging and be like, I got 12 fries the other day, you know? - I do assume we would have heard about this by now if it was a-- - Hey, things happen sometimes you mess up. - Yeah, I've worked fast food. - We sit in our thrones-- - I just flip a fry in or two, you know? - We sit in our thrones in the press box, so. We wouldn't even know these things about actually buying food at the rink. - We just argue about snacks on the table. - No, and Reachio doesn't care about cup holders 'cause he has a table. - I don't need a cup holder, I got a table though to put my cup off. - I got my laptop, I got my cup. - I have a much less convenient place to put my cup. We also got a text about that, 650, 650 Mac. Reach can put his playoff promo night swag on his useless cup holder. (laughing) - 100%, yes. On fry gate though, like. Man, you should, if your fries are like one of the things that I wouldn't necessarily purchase, even at a restaurant I don't like purchasing fries. - Really? - You think about it, you go to a restaurant and you order like truffle fries and they charge you what, 14 bucks or something like that? But they're a truffle fries. - That tastes pretty good. - Oh, thank you for this two drops of truffle oil you dropped on these truffle fries. - If the fries are made right, like nice and crispy, nice fries that are truffle fries, they're delicious. - I don't like, I can't make truffle fries at home. - There isn't an item on the menu that has more markup than fries at a restaurant. - That's okay. - Well, I can't make them as good as a restaurant makes at home, so what am I supposed to do? - You got yourself an air fryer then. - Even then, it's not gonna be as good as the restaurant fries. - They're not. - Come on, you know? Like, I'm with you, like, I understand the commercials, I know what you're selling, you know, home fries, just like the restaurants and we tell ourselves these things all the time to feel better. - They're not. - Let's be real. - You know, chopping up the potatoes and doing it all like. - It's like, if you're not getting proper ketchup, it's not, you can tell yourself that, you know, this is the same, but it's not. - It's a little, little different. - It's not the same. - This one, overrated, underrated. The new Team Canada, soccer jersey. - Oh my God. I don't know anybody who's overrating them, but they're still overrated. - No, I think they've gone so far that they're underrated. - What? - Yes. - I really like the white ones, to be honest. - I don't know. - The red ones, I can, I can get them bored with. - I think, if they go to Copa Emetica and those things, they're gonna look like, so budget. (laughing) - Well, honestly, here are these nice Argentina kids going up against the Sala Sal of Brazil, and it's just like, here's Canada. - But honestly, red pinstripes. But honestly, act like poor boys as an organization, get treated like the one. That's what's going on. - Honestly, it's befitting the organization and how it's gone. It's fine. - I know, this is great. - They put about five minutes of thought into it. - I am not one to besmirch the Nike Outlet Store. I shop at the Nike Outlet Store. They look like, the jerseys were off the rack at a Nike Outlet Store, okay? - That's probably where they got them from. - Like what other Nike shirt do you see there, where the check mark is got a like a casing around it? - Well, I think that that's like something Nike is trying to bring back. - No. - Like they're retries? - No, I'm just like, are you sure? - I don't know. I saw the Portugal jerseys. They look incredible. And then there's this Canada jersey that's just like, - I don't know if they're doing it for jerseys, but at least for like their normal apparel, I think I've seen them low. - I think Umbro had nicer Canada jerseys back in the day. - I don't, I really like the white ones to be honest. - I mean, it does remind me of like the, was it a little late 90s, Nike? - Yeah. - And they get the backpacks that had like the, the swish and the circle around it, right? That's what it reminds me of, yeah. - It's a throwback. - Did Alfonso Davies have any input in designing these jerseys? - Was the internet Nike tasked with designing the Canada jerseys? 'Cause it feels like they were. - Next one, Justin and East Van. Overrated, underrated. Can't see Cheeza or Chiza. - Oh. - It's chicken pizza. - Did you see the picture? - Sounds overrated already. - Yeah, yeah. - So the thing I'm out. - The picture, fair enough. The picture is it's like KFC chicken, and then it has tomato sauce, cheese and pepperoni on top. And then it's essentially like the chicken is the dough. - Why do we have to turn everything into a pizza? - Yeah. - What do you mean? - Pizza is supposed to be pizza. It's not a piece of chicken with pizza toppings on top. That's just a piece of chicken with pepperoni on it. It's not a pizza, it's not a Cheeza. - Chicken with cheese on it? - What's a pepperoni? - It's fine. - Sounds great. - What's more offensive that or putting pineapple on pizza for you? - The pineapple on pizza, I just cannot. I cannot get around, but this is like, stop it. Like why are you coming up with this crazy marketing thing of Cheeza? I don't even know what to make of this. - It's a cheese pizza. - That's exactly what it is. - You see here, it would honestly be better. No, it's chicken. - It's chicken. - It's not pizza, it's a chicken. - It's chicken. - It's like a chicken. - Okay, we can, I'll do this. - It would be better, you know it would be better if they like stuffed the chicken with the pizza toppings. - That, okay, hey, I can agree with that. - Stuffed the pizza with the chicken. - Like a, like a. - You butterfly the chicken breast, okay? You put the mozzarella and the pepperoni in a little bit of the tomato sauce in it. - So it's like a chin. - And then you snap it back to better, together. And now you got a chicken pizza. - Oh man. - Fair enough. - This is awful, I don't know, I'm, I don't like this. - Dan is as offended as I was about slamming fries and people are texting into like, "Jeffro, why slam trouble fries? "Your problem with chicken wings too?" - No, I love chicken wings. (laughing) - Would you rather, KFC Cheeza or KFC double down? - Oh, I'd go double down. - No, that has to be worse. - 'Cause it's just two pieces of chicken in, what's in the middle? - I don't even know. I've never had a double down. - I just know it's like. - It wasn't like California or something. - Yeah. Fair enough. All right, I'll move on now. Next one, chef Swagger, Easter coming up, next weekend. - Yep. - Cadbury cream eggs and marshmallow peeps overrated or underrated. - Yeah, I think all that stuff's overrated. - I think those two specifically are overrated, big mini eggs, guys, personally. - Mini eggs are delicious. Cadbury cream eggs, don't do it for me. - That's just like, I'll have the eggs. - No, I'm good, I'm good without either. - Without the Cadbury cream eggs. - Both the eggs and the whole marshmallow. - I'm not a big marshmallow guy. - No? - No. - Marshmallows. - Not a smart guy. - No, I mean, okay, I don't mind if we're out camping, throwing a marshmallow over some fire or whatever. It's part of the vibe, sure. - Let's go camping sometimes. - I'm down, you wanna go camping? - I would not. - Dan is not. - Reaching camping is incredibly overrated. - Reaching over this. - Too much of a coward to go camping. - You don't like camping. I know this that you don't like camping. You just pretend that you do. - That's unequivocally false. - There's a limit. For me, there's a limit to camping of like, hey, I can go for so many days, but you gotta pick the right spot. There's so many good places to go in BC if you're going camping. - Yeah, I know. - Yeah, from what I've been told, they're like booked up. - That is true. - From the moment that they become available. - If you have a trailer, that's true. If you have a tent, it's a little bit easier. And if you go off the beaten path, it's even easier than that. - I have none of those things. I'll go golfing instead. Thanks very much. - Fair enough. - We'll end with this one. Overrated, underrated, car flags. - Oh, underrated. I haven't seen enough over the past like decade in a bit. So what is the etiquette? Like when does the car flag come out as soon as the playoffs start? Or are you ready to get playoff flagged out right now? - Usually around here, it's a playoffs. - I think it's around playoffs a little bit before. I think once you're into spring, you're kind of close. In previous years, when car flags were a thing, you would see them around this time of year. Like round game 70 some, you know? You get into high 70, 75, 76. So pretty close. We might be a couple of weeks away. - I've seen a few more recently. - I have seen a few more, but I wonder if it's something that's not gonna catch on the way it did back in the day. 'Cause I remember like back in like, especially the West Coast Express era, like almost every other car had a car flag. You'd be driving off the highway, all these flags like flying off cars, speaking of cult-ish, just all these cars and flags running around. So I wanna see that again. I'm just not sure if that's the vibe anymore. You know what I mean? Like I'm not sure the younger generations all up on the car flags. - They're car looks a little bit too much now. - Yeah, look cool or whatever. And everybody's like an Uber driver too, right? So it's like, you can't. - To be fair, I'm not a big car flag guy on my car. All right, I do like it. - I would definitely be a car flag guy. - I'll buy you some car flags. (laughing) - I just, man, younger days, but Woodridge was big for car flags during a World Cup. - Mm. - Everybody had no time flag. - For once, what country? - Oh, everybody had no time flag. - Yeah. - Oh, we didn't do one. We got the music back on, the Shohei Otani thing. - Oh, yes. - Overrated underrated. Overrated underrated, oh, the Shohei do it. (laughing) - Underrated. - I think the text we got in was overrated underrated. Putting your gambling debt on your interpreter. Listen, we don't know what happened. - Yeah. - 'Cause we don't know. But to me, there's two possibilities here. And that may be wrong, but it may be two possibilities. As I see it. One being, and the story he's perpetuating, is that he's a Mark being made by a guy he was confiding in, a friend of his, a guy that he worked into his contracts, had full trust with best friend and all this sort of stuff. And he was a Mark being betrayed by his best friend. - Yeah. - Or he got caught placing best for Shohei. (laughing) And I don't know. Unless, I don't know what happened. - What I do know is-- - There could be other possibilities here. I mean, you could just be a degenerate gambler. - Yeah. Either way, he was stealing from Shohei and Shohei didn't know it as the official story. - I'm not sure how much I buy that. - There's a lot here. Okay. And I don't necessarily think this is gonna go like all Pete Rose on Shohei, Otani. But there's definitely something going on now. There's even been a changing of the story between Otani and his representatives and how this is already played out. So, there's a lot of details that are still coming out about this. Bottom line is, this story's not going away. - It's not. - This feels like it's gonna be a pretty big scandal over the next little while for Shohei, Otani. - Boy, the Jay's dodged the bullet. Hey. - I sure about that. - I still love Shohei, Otani. - Salty, I'll still take all this heat. It's Dan Rijo and Satyar Shah. But Jay's made a trade, by the way. Santiago Espinal is now Cincinnati Red. Bring up $2 million and change for the Blue Jays to maybe bring in Joey Vado. - That pumped. - Or money that they can just pocket. - Joey Vado, by the way, has had one plate of parents in the home run. - Yeah, not bad. - I'd say that's pretty good. - Many got injured. - It's a pretty good rate. It sounds like Joey Vado. - Yeah. - Dan Rijo, Satyar Shah, producer Josh Elliott-Wolf. And of course, Costa as well. It is Canucks Central. Big opinions and good bets. - It's the People Show with Big Nizar. - Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. (dramatic music)
