Danny returns to the show to close out Spooky Month with Bride of Frankenstein! He and the boys chat about candy, sequels, and special effects. Happy Halloween!
Movie discussed: Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
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All right Danny can we can we please have a one word uh bridal themed prompt idle themed oh boy uh here we go three oh wait that's it you didn't say that the bridal theme is going to be um dancing okay here we go three two one uh we haven't been dancing in a while my wife and I we literally last night as of this record we're looking through our wedding photos to pick up for a photo book we're like yeah one's the last time we've like danced anywhere how many people are like you have to be like at a wedding right like how often do people just people go club and can just not us well i think some people do the dance of the dead because it's almost Halloween welcome to the over talking podcast with your host skin and see if i see that ah very good this is the spooky show where we talk over tv shows and just movies horror movies only all month of october and this week we're talking about bride of frank and stein the sequel question mark yes it is it is a sequel possibly the first one it's the first one for the bride is that a pretty question is this the first sequel ever oh i actually don't know that could be i'm gonna have to look that up uh let's bring on our guest welcoming back we got danny who's here for almost every single halloween episode we'll come back hi oh hey guys hi hey thanks for having me thanks for being here oh man i'm excited i'm excited to talk about this i'll tell you one reason why i'm pretty excited is because earlier today i was listening to the very first episode of the over talking october halloween spectacular while where you discuss just just uh well not plain old frank said frankenstein meets abbot and castello oh i love this of this month yes of this year yes of this cycle of this cycle of this cycle listening to like episode 50 or something i was like oh wow what was that yeah can't be good and i'm here to critique it was garbage no i i didn't know i think we actually talked about this but i i didn't real i had forgotten that you were doing frankenstein meets abbot and castello first and so it made me even more excited to have this conversation now and to uh just continue to round out cj's um movie i was the same horror movie knowledge but really just all just in general knowledge yeah yeah it's a nice book end the frankenstein is yeah and you know what i haven't seen this one either i actually have a pretty big blind spot for for a classic universal monster movies so i'm i'm right there with you i i had not seen this uh i i'd seem like the staples but you know there were a lot of sequels to frankenstein and you know you really really can't catch them all it's not like pokémon no that's true but before we we talked too much about bride of frankenstein it's almost halloween happy halloween ah happy almost halloween guys that's right uh oh no oh Danny we've been asking most of our guests this uh uh this month but growing up when you were going out trick-or-treating did you hear of any like wives tales or any like urban legends about uh any any houses around you any anything to do with trick-or-treating anything like that kind of in a manner of speaking yeah i love the conversation about candy apples and razor blades i mean it's never it's never a bad time to talk about mutilating children with booby traps yeah but it is one of my favorite it becomes socially acceptable to talk about it in october so just great great time um nothing you know not anything cool in like the paranormal sense or like the creepy house sense or anything like that it was much more grounded in reality and i for me that made it fun and it was like in the town that i grew up there was an area in which there was a higher concentration of older kids and that was the area where things got buck wild right they're like you go into that like neighborhood section like that's where you're gonna have older kids trying to like steal your candy or wrap you up in toilet paper throw eggs at you so like so you like you know to stay away with from it but think about it right like classic coming of age movie stuff where it's like oh yeah that's where the older kids are and they're gonna like try to chase us and steal our candy we better not go over there or should we right and it just i don't know it just kind of made things fun like nothing really crazy happened you know there wasn't there wasn't like anything like that but it just kind of made it exciting it was like this one night where you could especially as you got older courts at age where you couldn't really trick or treat without looking like a weirdo anymore it made it fun to add this other element and kind of like feel like you were out there by yourself doing something secret and fun and and whatever so that that was that was the thing for us it was like hey if you if you go over to this neighborhood you better watch out because that's where that's where the older kids are and some of them are going to go to high school soon so watch it uh oh was also a follow-up question was candy apples ever handed out as a trick or treating that's such a large thing to just like a loose apple yeah not in my lifetime no no yeah i will say they're delicious i had one last night the the peanut covered one too affitapel uh like an affitapel yes affitapel i haven't i haven't had one of those in a long time i'm pretty sure i'm still afraid of the most horrifying thing about halloween uh getting your fillings pulled out by uh sticky candy been there yeah yeah really been there is that it happened to you or you're also afraid of it when i was younger it wasn't like exactly fillings was like sealants right so it's basically the same thing and yeah i would chew on some super super hard candy they're not hard but like like densely chewy yeah and uh yeah right jane's one of them out not fun really gross did that it did that didn't hurt though right because it's just like no because yeah because it wasn't like to fill a cavity or anything it was just to like prevent a cavity i think or something like that okay i don't know there's some distinction there but uh but yeah it didn't hurt it was just like oh i'm chomping on like glue now yeah and gotta go back to the dentist parents were pissed yeah like we just paid for all that dental work right right that was a great impression of coach dad too that's exactly what he sounds like did you know that sure number one fan of the podcast shout out to my dad shout out all right yeah danny when you got older did you participate in the uh debauchery around halloween look at them of course you know older kids um god dude cga that's uh both insulting and accurate uh like um yes and no i never i never graduated to like the upper end of like the the local neighborhood hazing depth chart uh i guess uh i didn't i didn't ever do that stuff that i described but uh and also i i really i didn't limit myself to just october or halloween for shenanigans it was really a a year-round venture for me um but yeah like all all sorts of stuff probably things i'm not sure what the statute of limitations are on some of them uh i'll just bleep all of it it'll be one long yeah one long like bleep right here and begin so my first felony uh it's there's nothing that like comes to mind specifically around like halloween and like shenanigans and stuff but just like it was mostly like going to a party or like if somebody was gonna have something going on and win those situations would spiral out of control parties that become several house parties at once and tearing through a neighborhood uh trying to steal the the cool the cool uh decorations and stuff that we found i would never want to steal candy from a kid that's literally the worst thing you can do yeah seriously those kids work hard for that candy yeah i don't know cz you have ever asked you that but did you like i mean i knew you growing up but like you didn't ever like i don't know roam the streets and egg houses on halloween or anything to do yeah i just yeah i had uh one hand on the wheel and the other on my BB gun just nailing people as a drove by great we already know that uh the worst thing you've done in halloween is just avoid children and not give them candy that's right yes just wait outside until they leave my front stoop so that i can go inside oh cj the horror yeah god uh and yes obviously i did not egg anyone okay what um well no we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about brine of frankenstein and wark coming up on the over-talking podcast and we're back on the over-talking podcast when once again by longtime guest danny and we're talking about bride of frankenstein i want to make sure that you know that anytime i call your phone can i expect you to answer in that voice okay and don't worry about what you hear on the other end just go with it great with that sultry deep voice of yours i got you danny working about 30 seconds on the clock for you to describe for someone who's not yet seen bride of frankenstein the super old one from the thirties what it's all about ready go frankenstein small freedom good fire bad frankenstein lonely oh oh he's he's the spoke good five frankenstein don't know many words three that's true time okay i think it's a sink to over a few of the that's about it yeah that's it yeah i remember before we started recording you you said that you were very prepared and you were worried about leaving things out uh like you've done in the past and so i'm glad you were able to uh not mention a bride at all and uh hey neither does the movie you know what that's true nor do they credit whoever the question i like that i like that they did that i like that they so i watched the original frankenstein right before this because uh you know i wanted to make sure i had the narrative sequence um fresh in my head and respect they do that they do the same thing in frankenstein where like the monster is just westward bark and then and then for bride of sing and sign it's carloaf as they would fill him forget for us it was just carlo carloaf like share just one name much more mysterious just like share yes one in the same yep i just thought it was interesting that that uh what was it the monsters mate is how they build it and if they did the title the credits at the beginning but then they do them at the end as well after we've seen them and they still had the question mark as if like we hadn't still can't just see who it was like i don't know did you catch two in the credits it says above it something about like the cast deserves a second viewing or something like that right like yeah so nice we named them twice yeah something like that yeah it's like huh interesting okay it's it's so fun so what are the reasons i really enjoyed watching this it was it's so relatively early on in filmmaking that you've got this really weird mix of like shit that looks amazing and kind of beautiful and then just like the corniest campiest shit and it's and it's all done like extremely seriously because this stuff hasn't happened yet and so people can't poke fun at it yet yeah it's it's genuine um and i really i really enjoyed that uh about the movie i felt the same i did with abbot and castello were like once again i am more impressed by these special effects than i am in like modern day movies tell you yo for real for real i want to know how they did the little miniature people in a two part that was interesting that was something i 100 did not expect yes i did not see that coming either and i didn't expect it to look that competent yeah like good decent yes yeah yeah for the listeners there's a mad scientist that basically shows off his creations and they're literally like it's spoiler alert he's seen this in the last 100 years that he basically creates these miniature people that are like a few inches tall and puts them in these like little glass tubes to show off there's like a king and a bishop and a queen and a ballerina but yeah the special effects for that part of it i generally was like wait how did they do that like i don't i don't understand the mechanics of it i need to like go look that up yeah i thought that was really cool what what i liked is um it's okay this this element reminded me of wizard of ours that thing where like you can tell that like the almost the entirety of it or is shot in a studio right not those like outside scenes like in the village but like everything like so they're in the woods and they're in the studio yeah right yeah and the set dressing the way they built that set and everything around it is just very appealing to me in a way i don't totally understand but it reminds me of like the sets you see in in wizard of ours where yeah like yeah here's the cornfield there's the forest and sure i can tell that that's a wall back there that they've like mat painted into a vista but somehow it all comes together to be like a very satisfying composition and it's so it's just kind of amazing like photography and set design had feels like it had really outpaced the the art of putting a movie together right like you can make it kind of look good in these ways and you can look dramatic and you have these like cool shots and angles and you you really know how to work with lights and lighting and stuff way more than i would have expected but everybody's got that transatlantic accent thank you cj for teaching me what that was earlier today when i saw you in the office but yeah everybody's got that weird accent and it's like really hokey and corny in ways but there's just man there's stuff you got to look at this movie and be like that's that's really well done even by today's standards yeah i mean that that was something i was thinking about when i was watching it especially yeah the wood scenes where it's like this could have been outside right like but clearly there's a backdrop but the interesting thing that crossed my mind was like well they have complete control over what it they wanted to look like right rather than like scouting location they can they can paint whatever the hell they want back there and they can make it look exactly like they want and i thought that was really interesting for me it was it's like the sound it's knowing that back then it wasn't that everyone was mic'd it was like one mic hanging over everybody so if you were to try that outside it would sound like garbage yeah so i think like because the the one that the part of the movie that like uh sort of hit that on the head and reminded me that that's the case is when we see the titular bride and her like tarp dress thing she's dressed in is so loud which is taking steps like just that fabric movie and i was like oh that's right it's just because it's like one boom mic over all of them capturing anything that moves yeah yeah it's it's really fun kind of going back this i don't i am not that familiar with like the universal classic monsters i wasn't sure what to expect from this and now that i've seen it like i'm much i'm very interested in watching a bunch more of them uh and there's a lot they did not they did not skip out on making a bazillion movies about all these characters that's true yeah i i don't know that you're thinking through some like we were doing through some of my old blue rays um in preparation of spook a month and it turned out i had like a collection of universal monsters blue rays and this was one of them so i popped that on but yeah i kind of wish i had put on frankenstein before it too because i want to see that and bride of frankenstein was short enough where it probably would have been pretty easy to double feature that um but it's cool dude because they give you that very succinct recap using scenes from the original movie so it gets you up to speed yeah i like that it was sort of like off putting i would say to me where it was like because i couldn't tell because then they like they sort of name one of them as like shelly and i was like oh wait so they're that's the author right like they're talking to the author and then and then after a few minutes i was like oh yeah they literally are talking about the story that this person wrote but then cutting through the movie yeah i was like oh okay it took me a while to understand what was going on what was even more weird too was that they they set that up beginning as if that this is a story being told and and they never went back to it i expected it to be bookended with like narrations how the monster died or something but uh no i don't know spoilers well maybe i think there's more sequels so yeah i mean they only they only made like five more frankenstein movies right i don't think that uh hollywood had settled into the rhythm that we know now the way we do things now is very predictable i mean i i think we could have it our definitely don't want to go down this rabbit hole but i think we could have an argument that like it's we've run out of ideas and we're really just majorly recycling everything right now yeah but back back then um you know there there weren't the same sort of like formats and and understanding of things so like i i don't know i guess in my head i'm assuming that they're like well there's no guarantee that the people who are coming to see brian of frankenstein have ever seen frankenstein and uh vhs and hbo do not exist yeah so it's not like they can just like oh i'll go watch the i'll go watch the first one before no you you have to like find a movie theater that's that's running in who knows if they are you know so it's like you've got to build in yeah uh that that like let me get you up to speed but even then right this is a movie based on a book that's over a hundred years old at the time yeah so i guess we ran out of ideas a real long time ago yeah to me my uh my modern day analogy is comic books the first few pages are always catching you up on what happened last time so that they can get into like this because it has been a full month since the last issue came up yeah so you gotta like remember probably forgot and through that issue out so yeah let me remind you where you're at yeah plus i can fill up pages that you are paying for exactly yeah um you brought this up already but what do you guys think what did you expect out of this movie and what do you think about what you got and i'm i'm really just going to leave that as vague as possible to allow your minds and how you take it to fill that in i i expected the bride of frankenstein to be a central plot point yes and what i got instead was frankenstein too yes pretty much yes uh i will answer that question by saying the really the only part of the movie i want to talk about is the last ten minutes of the movie where i even pause the movie to see where we were in the timestamp and we see the bride of frankenstein you know the thing that the movie is named after in the last ten minutes of the movie yeah yeah first of all i agree and i think it's hilarious that you can just like that's just how it was i want to challenge myself to sit here and be like well we have to remember that this is really a discussion of dismantling of what happens when you get your freedom and you know that that maybe the worst punishment is getting what you want um and being unsatisfied with it and really when we think about what marie but that's not what it is yeah i don't think it's i mean sure that can be there but it's not what it is but it's not what it is uh you know it's it's funny there there is this i don't know what you guys think like but i agree right like this movie is semi-humorous like not like it's funny to us now there the character was seemingly the most lines is the fucking court jester of the film mini the the assistant to dr frankenstein that just runs around the house i wish that monster had just taken care of her right at the beginning she's a bit obnoxious she is insane her only job is to yell and run from place to place yeah but apparently it pays well i i don't want to go too off on a tangent but i did write something down of like no wonder men treated women so poorly back in the day if this was like the media that they were shown oh my every woman in this movie is like quote-unquote hysterical or like over the top and all of the men treat all the women fucking horribly yeah like one of them literally says to me like oh but you're tongue off yeah like yeah like they're telling women to shut up like yeah like with a hard s if that makes any sort of sense yeah even even in the beginning you're depicting mary shelly who wrote the book frankenstein who at that point was was already like a notable famous author in the world pre-internet which is like much harder to do yeah and they depict her as some like little not lilting flower but some like delicate flower who's who's sewing and oh she pricked her finger and it's like i don't know i don't know anything about mary shelly the real person but like boy you sure seem to have gone out of your way to make her seem like a a feckless yeah aloof woman let me tell you about mary fella because she and this was in the original cut of the film and they cut it out because it was way too scandalous but they make reference to it that she was in like a a three-way marriage situation and uh i don't anyway they i don't know all the details but her and the two other men in that scene are apparently supposed to be the people in this relationship oh my see and this is what's interesting right this mix of highbrow lowbrow like there's this corny dumb shit uh that that they're doing in there but there are these like themes that they're trying to explore and i was thinking about it a little bit i mean first of all they're clearly in the book frankenstein it is it is an allegory like no no it's entertaining it's fascinating it's it's sci-fi it's imaginative but it's clearly an allegory about uh you know first a a man playing god and the the pitfalls they're in but also the bride of frankenstein is part of the book to an extent to an extent right they'll say thematically not the actual plot points in in the movie so like there is this foundation of like thoughtfulness of art of societal critique and i kind of think like you know i wonder i wonder this is an era of hollywood before we had i don't know distilled marketing and uh focus groups and everything like down to its essence like it feels like now you know what the result is going to be before you ever release something yeah and so they're trying to like you know appeal to to people to get them to go out and see this movie and so you have to kind of like offer a little bit of everything right you have to have slapstick you have to have titillation you have to have some sort of theme that you know pipe smoking stuffy people want to like pick apart and stuff and it's kind of interesting to see it all just kind of smashed together and what comes out of it it's it's it's weird i would that's what i would use to describe this movie is it's kind of it's weird it's all over the place yeah yeah first first it's it's frankenstein roaming the countryside not really killing people but like just repeatedly over and over being misunderstood yeah and then he stumbles into the blind guy's cabin and then makes a friend and learns how to speak yeah yeah it's that speak learns how to smoke yeah it's how to drink which when that um when that scene started this also being my first time watching this i was like oh that's what young frankenstein is referencing it's this part of the movie like oh i didn't even make that connection yeah i was like oh they're just redoing this but in a funny way it's just a different yeah it's but it's the exact same thing that's great oh now i know the reference material oh well now you're ready to go to now you're ready to go back and enjoy young frankenstein on a whole new level oh yeah i'm sure i think we need to watch original frankenstein and then yeah we need to go back and watch young frankenstein again i thought it was interesting how selectively afraid of fire uh frankenstein's monster is because in moments yeah he's afraid of fire again and another moment he's just literally reaching into fire to get like a roast chicken or something like i don't know it's all over the place i would say it's interesting that they used real like fire like people are just legitimately lighting stuff on fire like inches away from each other i was waving it around like dude right like you're seeing that shit it's like yo man that's a lot of fire that's a ton of fire yeah onset yeah i'm sure everything is as flammable as possible yes apparently this set wasn't exactly the safest uh boris carlam don't say in the beginning when he was climbing out of that like wet slash on fire uh pill from the previous movie he slipped and fell and dislocated his hip so like the limping you see throughout the rest of the movie is is like genuine he's like wow screwed up a little bit it's interesting and now it's it's just a part of frankenstein his injury is just who frank frankenstein was actually supposed to be quite nimble and i don't i just get i don't know that uh by the way young frankenstein covered on this show on episode 120 from october of 2019 go back and pick it out folks i think Riley was the guest Riley was the guest couldn't memory oh yeah i totally remember remember that i i i can tell that you just pulled that out of your brain uh absolutely we probably drank some jack-o-blast i'm sure god we almost certainly did yeah yeah you're so gross got us baby thank you for blasting me with your jack we gotcha um one last thing i want to talk about before we go to trivia um i thought it was very funny how towards the end of the movie we finally see the frankenstein monster's bride or whatever we want to call it um and she's like i think we want to call it the bride of frankenstein i guess you're right that's what you would call it huh see the bride of frankenstein okay hold on i want to go on a separate tangent she's not really the bride of frankenstein right frankenstein is the the guy right yeah so i in fact she is the bride of frankenstein frankenstein made a bride granted for his other monster but that is the bride of frankenstein yeah that woman is a concessionate all right fine but no i i'm with you i go this this is all right this is working on fucked up this is exactly where this got fucked up yes with everyone thinks that frankenstein is the monster it's because bride of frankenstein one would assume yeah well i love that they just cut to the weird doctor i don't remember his name he's just like the bride of frankenstein oh they had to put that in there to be like oh yeah this is who it was what i like that he said the name of the movie yeah yeah yeah you like did i did give a little clap at that part i also really appreciate it that they made sure to include it's a lot again yes right you got is a lot i gotta hit it is what they say this thing she's alive and and then like every hollywood marketer it was like oh yeah let's this is a good trip first we'll say it this way and then we'll change one thing about the phrase and so you know mmm okay same movie but get this it's a woman oh my god there's like two more things i want to bring up that i think are kind of interesting one is this the doctor frittoria sorry that's i'm not sure what his name is but it's close to something like that the other doctor the bad doctor so apparently she was the the way he was acting the way he was speaking uh was meant to elicit not elicit but to denote homosexuality hmm how i did not guess that right because we live in a very different world yeah right where you can just be gay um that wasn't the case back then and so it was kind of like the words he used the way he used them the tone his particular accent was supposed to kind of be like oh like he's he's one of those funny ones oh you know what when he says the bride of frankenstein he does kind of a manurism i guess that could maybe construe that way i don't know it's interesting huh i didn't know about that i'm not bringing it up to like kind of pick that apart but like once i kind of read something about that i was like oh that's interesting because it comes it's in the context of this is a pre-code movie there's before the like modern day rating system you know of like rpg13 etc there there was a there was a code that was a step but it was established i want to say like within five or ten years after this movie and so it was like heavily censored in places the fact that frankenstein looked at the female dead body and was like oh was like people like no that's too close to necrophilia whereas like today we wouldn't that nylash at that shit you know so there was all these things that were like kind of put in there that i i think our references to stuff that the the writer knew like hey like people are starting to talk about this stuff and we're not going to be able to like put it in willy nilly anymore so let me get some of this stuff in here while we can't so i don't know i just thought that was an interesting tidbit yeah the way that they were navigating these like social waters but here's another thing just so i can get that out this out here and i would love to know what you think of this one i love the contraptions yes oh my god yes yeah i didn't i wasn't prepared for how much i was going to love the laboratories the laboratory rules yeah dude yeah there's some real shit going on in there there's some real dangerous electricity around oh yeah yeah the whole thing of of like the table shoes on gets i didn't expect it to get raised all the way up through the ceiling to the outside that was incredible and then the whole i don't know disc structure that was above her it's incredible it's it's ginormous or at least it looks ginormous on on the screen i found myself watching this and be like oh i this is like this reminds me of all these like campy like 50s 60s sci-fi movies that i think are really fun and and then it fucking occurred to me boy where do you think they what do you think they're lampooning yeah this is like the original scientist yeah yeah yeah so i just i really i really enjoyed the science in i'm doing real good air quotes here yeah you guys can't who are listening can't see it but it's happening i yeah i need to i will circle back to that after trivia when i say meridian but definitely want to talk about that part towards the end okay we we got to move it along i one last thing i just want to talk about it when they she was totally mummified flathead they take the mummification off her head straight up hair you guys are pissed out yeah that that was the biggest achievement yeah forget life that the bounce of that hair oh my gosh i didn't think that was gonna happen because she was mummified i was like wait isn't the hair from this movie and then it cuts and i was like oh okay so that's just it's just there now okay got it yeah okay all right guys it's time for hey do you know that hey do you know that that's right for new listeners is the trivia portion of our show when we pitter guess and seize your head to see who knows the most about what we watch danny cvary you two ready well cvary are you ready that was my yes oh no that was me did we do it at the same time i guess i'll do one that's my excited yeah oh god okay first i told horrible yeah first question boris carloff who plays frankenstein's monster in case you didn't know also played what other universal monster first person to shout it out gets the point wolf man i know it's not that no and that's like the only one i know is not that for sure invisible man can i just like oh the mommy it is the mommy yeah uh because he's big it was it was lon chaney was the wolf man correct yeah i don't know how i know that um all right danny gets the first point next course cj i let you i let you say a couple first you do that i appreciate it next question true or far false true or false i don't know what that other one was real or farce farce is it a farce boris carloff removed his teeth bridge work to appear more gaunt in this film his teeth bridge work and i would know what that means it means like the sides of your your teeth are fake dude you know how do you not know that you love hockey you should know all about extreme dental work i bet you every single one of your favorite players has extensive bridge work i'm sure they do but i guess my my interest doesn't go that extra level into their dental care i i mean mine either i'll say true because you're bringing it up okay okay i i'm going to say false because i think i happen to know the answer to this specifically that he couldn't take out his bridge work for bride of frankenstein because they gave frankenstein words to say uh yes but he did take it out for frankenstein and so he looks more gaunt because like you know like if i can't cut in life about it in your cheeks you guys can't see this but these guys can i'm just a perfect direction yeah where i'm pressing my cheeks in real good not those cheeks uh also now i've got a really uh dig into why i know so much about people's dental work you're very into teeth yeah what the fuck when did that happen yeah that's absolutely right he did the same thing in uh the mummy uh to appear more sunken in kind of cool but yeah true question you fell forward seeds i got you this all right guy man this next question which actor in this film acted with a broken leg for most of filming well i'm going to say forest carloff because you said that he fell and heard himself okay i'll say that also it's the only actor whose name i know yeah i was just going to describe the person you could say the the character too the grave robber guy the assistant the assistant okay uh both of you are incorrect it was actually colin clive who played uh count frankenstein or whatever oh uh henry henry frankenstein henry frankenstein yes like can you hear that can you just hear how not correct that name is yeah that's not his name in the book yeah henry uh yeah he broke his leg in a horse riding accident right before filming so he's sitting for most of his scenes that's why frankenstein's like sit down he's like oh thank god finally okay wow they they really worked around some challenges yeah still did yeah all right elsa lain tester plays both marie felli and uh the bride of frankenstein she is presented as seven feet tall in this film but how tall is he actually can just a slight correction they pulled the facebook it's just bride of frankenstein there's no the it's cleaner bride bride of frank i mean when i'm referring to her i could say no nubcat that title of movie is bride of frankenstein very correct how tall is she five seven okay i don't think she's over five seven i'm gonna say five three five four days closer wow things the point cz are you on the board yet i don't think uh oh man there's a lot more i have a lot of questions for this he's on one board the lord of my heart oh my two my two all right how many pounds did boris carloff sweat off by wearing the frankenstein outfit during this movie god this is an excellent question wow how much can a human sweat yeah like yeah like what what i mean i'm like physically in sweat but like how much yeah no i know yeah of course of filming yeah like losing water weight i'll take a first crack at this one cj so that 12 pounds okay 12 pounds of sweat exuded yeah my my first thing scene was 15 but i'll say 13 which is the smarter answer that is the smart answer but it wouldn't have mattered 20 pounds is what whoa who says he lost 20 pounds during filming by all new clothes geez damn that's pretty rough all right how much was boris carloff paid for his role on bride of frankenstein man 1930s money right it's probably like five dollars which would be like a million dollars in our age he got you know a burger and a nickel and he was happy hot i have no idea and then also here's a question not to not to like muddy the waters further but like we're movie stars paid exorbitantly back then like they are now i have no idea i don't i don't know and and what would be exorbitant for the yeah the 1930s i was gonna say like a thousand dollars i i'm gonna tell you that i think that's way too low okay i'm gonna say like like 10 grand because i feel like 10 grams close to a normal person's home back then okay uh danny is closer uh and like actually pretty close 12,500 dollars is what he said he made 2,500 dollars a week damn yeah kind of weird i i googled it by the way at one thousand dollars in 1935 is worth 22,000 dollars almost 23,000 dollars today okay okay so it's twenty three times the amount it's really not that much still because it comes out to what like like maybe twenty five thousand twenty twenty three thousand dollars twenty five thousand dollars somewhere in there today money well didn't you say one thousand was twenty two or something twenty three so oh i'm sorry i totally forgot a digit uh my bad yeah um so yeah like two hundred or three hundred thousand dollars but like yeah for for a huge universal monster movie i don't know yeah maybe maybe more but i wonder if they had royalties back then like i wonder if he got paid out like the rest of his life from people like rerunning the film my guess is no just the way hollywood works probably not yeah my my guess is that people had to fight for that for decades in order to achieve it yeah that will be correct all right next question valerie hobson who plays uh frankenstein's fiancee slash bride not the monster there they go how old was fie during filming and i'll give you for reference uh frankenstein was played by someone who was 35 so she's probably like knowing hollywood back then like 20 first of all i think you're giving hollywood more credit than it deserves yeah 70 i'm i'm going to count on the trickiness of pen and i'm gonna say 36 oh wow progressive yeah very progressive and giving me more credit than it's worth uh cj was closer and your second guess was correct cj 17 gross oh god i would say like i knew i was wrong but i didn't want to be i didn't want to be right yeah all right what were the monster's first word what was the monster's first word it was just one word first person is out it out gets the point good then it's friend oh oh just keep going like bad i guess just keep going yeah we yeah he only said 10 words so we should be able to fix it uh good bad fire friend smoke uh oh drink drink none of those uh damn you guys aren't going to get it frankenstein monster no oh no uh all right time's up bread wow yep that's awesome interesting loves his carbs sure does bread who doesn't hey guys what's the body count in this movie ah i can think of definitely one at the end a very gruesome one oh wait okay my count i'm gonna say six i'll say five because that that's right around when i was counting danny's closer apparently it was ten in the original cut though there were 21 deaths oh damn out a lot yeah i got busy apparently dang all right how are we looking on points danny is up five to two okay this is the last question what is the rod tomatoes tomato score in percentage this closest without going over this is the critic score in rod and tomatoes danny since your bleed you'll go first to give cj the edge but it doesn't matter right so 90 percent okay oh wow i'm gonna go with one dollar bob uh danny is closer he gets the point again you say you go with 91 i don't think it's higher i think it should be lower than 90 well that was wrong 98 percent it's like jesus here is one of the best yeah yeah yeah all right well i disagree with that this fucking movies can do no wrong man yeah disagree too old but but also like dude though like at the time this shit was revolutionary like at the time people were going bonkers over it but we live in the age of rotten tomatoes on the internet wasn't back then so people should know better i think that rotten tomatoes looks at old like old timey reviews for old timey movies but i don't i actually have no idea i don't i know it does pull it from and lots and lots of years worth of stuff it's not like just recent things so measuring do you think that like people today are just like afraid to give it a bad score because it is a classic because it is like probably no game but that makes danny our winner congratulations thank you yeah this felt like taking candy from a baby uh playing this game against somebody who actively doesn't like scary movies and in my opinion doesn't seem to like movies at all uh yeah i agree with my father here that that's yeah uh for those are curious the audience score in rants tomatoes is 87 percent and the letterbox score is 4.0 she's still pretty pretty strong just because you called me out on light like in movies i think i hit like 20 movies in september i was on a tear hell yeah man what that was those were city action movies yes a lot of shitty action movies what what what did you what did you like the best what was your highlight of september highlight i finally watched my neighbor toto roe oh oh okay still my heart yeah i absolutely love that movie and by the time this episode comes out i will have visited the um museum in tokyo shut the the gibberies to your museum what yeah that's gonna be awesome when are you going to japan i'm there right now what it's amazing it totally looks like you're your bedroom nope i've been japan nope or south korea i can't remember where we are at this point oh dude that sounds so cool uh can you guys just do an episode where it's cj talking about his trip to japan we will because i'll be the guest and all i'll say is oh man that's cool that's what i'll be doing that's my role i'm gonna and then what do you eat i i just watched horror movies that's the only thing i did while you were gone i feel i feel that's gonna be the episode so tune in for that um well it we had a we were going super hot on time uh it's time for our readings danny on a scale of one to ten what would you rate bright of frankenstein for you i'm gonna give this a seven i'm gonna give this a seven and i'm proud to give it a seven and i wasn't exactly sure what to expect going in i wasn't exactly sure how old uh how well a movie made this long go would would hold up but it was really good it was like it first of all it helps that it's only like an hour and 15 minutes right yeah you know that's really quick yeah lovely um yeah i had my attention the whole time it it looked better than it deserved uh the acting actually seems better than it deserves in that like hokey old-timey sort of way this i would have given it in eight if dr frankenstein's assistant had less lines okay i actually enjoyed the one maybe i'll do my next uh i i actually enjoyed the assistant dr very best for victorious is here at first when she first showed up i was like oh wow she is a lot but as the movie went i was like all right are you you're wanting me over a little bit it's fun yeah um i'm going to give this an eight uh fully i i i do enjoy it um and it really makes me want to go back and watch the original frankenstein and actually dan i'm curious what you thought of that and like a very succinct side way okay cool great yeah i like that i definitely want it's that good it's that good it looks that good um it's interesting you realize how much of your life and like the media you've consumed is based off of this one movie yeah it's it's a must see god okay and it's even shorter excellent can't beat it cannot be that that might be a 10 for me we'll see i didn't watch it but i mean yeah but anyway eight four uh brighter frankenstein cj for me i i have to talk about the ending the last ten minutes are the most interesting part of the movie last ten minutes are we see the brighter frankenstein they're at the lab the brine of frankenstein first reaction to frankenstein's man's monster she screams in horror just like everybody else looks like jesus christ this guy can not catch a break uh and then the original working title was uh birth of the incel jesus christ yeah i thought that was pretty funny they create this monster for him and she's instantly horrified um and then somehow it's established that a big leaver will destroy the entire laboratory if it is pulled and so what does frankenstein's monster do does a murder suicide and takes everybody out with him what an ending did not see that coming i will give it credit to that overall though i i didn't love this i'll give this a six i like there are some good parts but also it was a lot of like i'm really waiting to see this titular brine of frankenstein and it disappointed once she does appear that's fair that's totally fair that's totally fair i'm not offended by your score this time okay this time this time yeah yeah and next time well i put it we'll see uh well that that about wraps up spooky month for this year everyone have a great happy halloween you did it uh danny thank you for joining us always thank you guys for having me i truly i i really enjoy doing this with you guys uh you're the best you're you're doing great job uh as and don't take my word for it take the word of your sponsors where if you had to do a sponsor thing this is where you could do it yeah go go to magicmind.com slash never talk about 20 and uh do all go to my sponsor magicmushrooms.com it's actually not.com it's actually just go out in the forest and find some mushrooms and put them in your mouth see what they probably got a dot party domain name like we did yeah yeah that makes sense just just start putting mushrooms wild mushrooms in your mouth and enjoy the ride or your death whatever yeah great excellent cj where we got a plug besides uh other things you can follow us on all the things that over-talking pod go to our website over-talkingpod.party you can use the search bar and find 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