The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
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With Niko in Tank's injury history, another receiver may be an necessity. That's a good conversation that we haven't had. Niko has been injury prone. Tank-Dell has misgamed in his first two years, so I think that's a decent argument from Ponder. >> Yeah, look, I mean, like you said, everything's on the table right now, just to try to literally, Ponder, what's going on, who's out there, who could you possibly upgrade? If you don't feel like it's an upgrade, then don't do anything. But if you could get a veteran that has some experience that could not necessarily fill the shoes completely of digs, but give you the option and as an insurance policy because of the chance for injury, go get them, or at least kick the tires. >> 406 is spamming our chat with Gabe Davis. Stop spamming our chat with Gabe Davis. We'll block you. Keith, who's our resident old man guy, Jarvis Landry, Marvin Jones Jr., Kenny Galladay, and James Proche. Okay, Keith. You have a thing for old men. >> Will you get his list? >> Yeah. Someone texted might as well just ask Andre Johnson to suit up. He might have a better chance than most of that list that Keith just gave us. >> Lamont just tweeted that he saw him running at the park, getting in shape. Maybe we should add him. >> Maybe he's the old-timer that we need to come out of retirement. Not what? A592, a brilliant mind, even more, Rice Coaching legend, Wayne Graham coached Roger Clemens at Sanjack. I knew that Wayne Graham was there, just in prep and stuff like that. 4952, trade pieces, trade four pieces like Marcus Jones, sneaky impact on special teams and at the back end. He didn't play receiver in college too. So there is that. He's actually caught a pass in the NFL. I think he, I think he has scored an offensive touchdown in the NFL. Didn't he have it? Didn't he have an offensive touchdown, an offensive touchdown and a special team touchdown in the same year? >> His rookie year. >> One of them. >> And Valacek was on the- >> He's the rich man show this week. Just loves him. >> Oh, he was talking about him this week? Yeah, I love him too. 55535, get a freaking left guard. Okay, two separate conversations, 55535. We understand that you're a desperate for a left guard. That's fair. Why is everyone talking about receiver? We can rely on Metche and Hutchinson to play with Tank at rather being in on an offensive lineman. Josh from Seabrook, those two things are not mutually exclusive. >> Why can't you do both? >> Yeah. >> Being on both and look around. There's nothing, no arm, no foul. And if you get both, so what? >> Metche needs to step up and show why he's a second rounder. I agree with that. Alan Robinson got cut before the season started to give him a look. There's a reason he got cut before the season started. This texture says Jalen Polk. He's a rookie. >> The Patriots trading a rookie receiver at the deadline. >> They draft him in the second round. >> They're gonna trade him right now. >> How about Tyler Lockett? No. Seahawks are in the race in the NFC West. >> Okay. >> I mean, any rookie is going to be, especially with a team like New England is in their plans for the future on that contract and where he was drafted. That's part of the rebuild. That's not the one of the guys you got to pull the plug on. >> 713780 ESPN. Blankers, the Ravens traded for Deontay Johnson. How much does this move your needle in terms of Baltimore as a contender in the AFC and how much does it move your needle in terms of how far they might have separated themselves from the Texans? >> I think more so than anything else, it's one of the upper echelon teams in the AFC that aren't standing pat that are still doing whatever they can to get better. And that's exactly what we're talking about the Texans doing with a more dire need maybe because of injury than the other teams. We've seen the Chiefs make moves. We've seen Baltimore make a move now to where that's the more impactful thing is that the teams at the top that you are targeting to be competitive with are making moves. And that's probably the reason why on top of the injury that I hope that they're more aggressive than what they might have been previously in terms of trying to upgrade this team before the deadline. Because now it's not just about you, but it's also because if you're keeping up with the Joneses, the Joneses are trying to do better whether it's an insurance policy or to actually get better to where I think it should be more of a focus for the Texans. For one zero six at your mom's not mutually exclusive, it's insulting, very insulting. How dare you speak of my mother, Mrs. Mrs. signs nowadays, how dare you say that? But it did make me laugh for one zero six. I'm surprised that the Ravens like spend resources on receivers, like if there's any team that and I know that you want your best players or you want the best players, you can possibly have at these positions and if you're only swapping a fifth and sixth rounder for Deontay Johnson, why not? But Baltimore's kind of where receivers go to die like receivers don't have great numbers there. Now Zeflowers has done some things. Usually he likes to throw to his tight ends. Mark Andrews, I say a likely there's such a run heavy team. I get that he's an upgrade over what you have. Bateman's been okay there and that three headed monster is not bad. Like if you have Zeflowers, Deontay Johnson and Bateman, that's a pretty good trio to go with the likely in Andrews to tie it in and then you're back filled with Derek Henry and injustice Hill. I don't think that Deontay Johnson makes the Ravens as good as if like if Deontay Johnson went to a pass heavy team. Like if he went to my homes in Kansas City, I think that would have moved the needle more for Kansas City than it does for Baltimore simply because the Ravens don't need to throw the ball to throw. This style of play. The Kansas City really doesn't either a whole lot, but yeah, I think it's a good move. I don't think the Deontay Johnson's going to go there and like just put up these massive numbers. I think he's clearly their number two receiver and I think he's closer to three than he is one. I think he's closer to Bateman than he is a flowers. Good move for the Ravens, especially with as cheap as you got him. You also take them off the market for some other teams in the AFC that could potentially trade for a wide receiver, but I don't think it moves in the needle a ton. I would say good move doesn't move the needle a ton. Colts announcing that they're benching Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson mentioned a little, what do we call that? The last thing. A nay. Oh, winning. The nay. I'm not a big fan of his nay. It pierces my ears. It really hurts my ears. So I shouldn't hit the drop again. Here it comes. I really shouldn't do this. I can control the ball. So I can control like if I hear it or not, but what are you, what do you think? Never. Never quit. Dang it, Brian. Let me finish my sentence. What do you make of the Colts pitching a Anthony Richardson? I think that this was coming. It's been coming for quite a while and the fact that when he tapped out this weekend that it kind of all kind of came to a head to where they can use this as a learning teaching moment and also try and make their football team better in the short term, because at least with Flacko, you can throw the football a little more consistently in the middle of the field and the mid range. And I think that Joe has shown that he's not for the long term, but he can do some things for your offense that Richardson can't right now. Richardson has looked awful if he was playing better. I don't think that this would be an issue, but now because of the fact that everybody's focused on him tapping out because he's played so poorly on top of it, I think for the organization, this was the right time to do something right now for the short term. It's weird that it's weird that the Colts had that offensive lineman. I think it was Tim Kelly's brother, actually. What's Tim Kelly's brother name? Is it Ryan Kelly? But the Kelly, the offensive lineman, I think he's the center with Indy. He came out and was like, yeah, we don't really appreciate that. Like he flat out said that to the about him tapping out. Yeah. He's like, it's not a precedent. We want to set. He flat out came out and was like, okay, he's blasting his quarterback. The moment I saw that I was like, yeah, Anthony Richardson's being benched because he tapped out and how it's received is, okay, what are they going to think about this? I think he lost the team. I think Anthony Richardson, and it's, it might, I think it's kind of unfair because I think Anthony Richardson's more running back than he is quarterback. Running backs come out of games all the time. I think we should probably view him more as a running back than a quarterback. But the moment that you had Kelly come out and say that about Anthony Richardson to me was a huge tell that they do not want him to be the quarterback in that locker room. So yeah, I think he lost the locker room there. Now from a Colts perspective, I don't really understand it. Like do I think Joe Flacko wins more games this year than Anthony Richardson? Maybe one, maybe two. What is the ceiling for the Colts with Anthony Richardson? What is it with Flacko? It's probably the same. Flacko is going to be gone at the end of the year. Richardson's a dude that you drafted with a top five pick two years ago, two drafts ago. He's only in his second year. I feel like if you're committed to making that pick, knowing all the red flags that he had mostly just his accuracy, knowing that he's such an inaccurate quarterback, I think that you need to ride that out for the five years he's with you or four if you don't pick up his rookie option. Yeah. But I think that like you said, when you think about all the quarterbacks that you've ever watched in the NFL and the running quarterbacks that are more likely to run, especially early in their career than pass, like Michael Vick, like Lamar Jackson, like when they, I don't think any of them, there's, I've never can't remember a quarterback tapping out. I just know it's never happened. I mean, it's very unique. So from that perspective, it's a move that has to be made if he, because he is indeed your long term future and he's got to find a way to win his locker room back, but at the same time from an organizational standpoint, in order to keep the locker room that you have for this season, I think it was a must move no matter what, because that on top of his poor play means that from a, from an organizational standpoint, Ballard and everybody else in that, in that franchise, short of Ursay, because he's quirky and probably would fight back. I think it's a move you had to make. I think the moment you draft them, though, you're, you're probably committed and like now you're not going to be playing them. You're not like, what are you getting out of that? Like, are you just admitting that the pick was a failure? Like, what is the plan there? You drafted a franchise quarterback. He's being binged for Joe Flacco, who's 58 years old. I don't understand the plan. Like, I don't think that you're developing them. I don't think it's helpful to his growth as a young quarterback. Like Josh Allen was terrible his rookie year, but they threw Josh Allen out there every single game with the idea of, okay, we know he's wide. He's wildly inaccurate, but we think at some point he's going to get to a level where he's a good quarterback because of all of his athleticism, all of his traits, all of his skills, and we're going to do whatever we can to hone those skills to the best of what does well for our team. I feel like you have to play Anthony Richton the moment that you draft them that high. Until you screw up like this. I mean, I guess, but I mean, what is it, what are you accomplishing, though? You look at Carolina. They made the move with Bryce Young, but I think they quit, but I think they quit on Bryce Young. But I think they might be done with him, but they say they're not, but you don't know. You look at Will Levis. He got his opportunities, but at a certain point when even the coach was visibly frustrated with some of the things that he wasn't correcting that they, they made a change, we had a shoulder injury, but on top of that, I think they also spent out with the shoulder injury. I know, but before that he was there, it was during that he got the, he did not play the rest of the game whenever he older, heard his shoulder and then they started Mason root off the next game. He came back from an injury and then like re aggravated and then they started Mason root off again. He mentioned to the shoulder injury is there not a possibility though that they use that part of it. Oh, 100% cover for him. Sure. So that's why I'm saying I think that from this, from this standpoint with this situation with the Colts, Anthony Richardson's got to learn a lesson here because he lost his locker room. And I think that the organization will publicly do what they need to do so that this doesn't look quite as bad, but at the same time, it's a move that had to be made that will maybe hopefully in their, their thinking benefit him in the long term to understand what it takes and what he, how he has to act in order to have this role long term. I guess like a good mediation of this and like a good like middle ground here. You're kind of telling everybody, it's a one game suspension because if, if, if you're still determined to groom Anthony Richardson to be your franchise quarterback, he's got to play. He's got to play. He does. You're right. But, but again, if they think that they're still close enough for a wild card and they know that he has been as, as bad as he has played that maybe they say, Hey, this is a chance to just kind of get healthy, get right detox, just watch for a few weeks. And if flacko plays well, then it's, that's more than a week. Yeah. It doesn't. Then you can go back to him, especially if you're out of the playoff mix. I just think that's so short-sighted because what are the Colts at best under Joe flacko? They're a seven seed six seed that's eliminated in the wild card round. And if you're, if you're turning what you hope to be a franchise quarterback into a perennial backup in the process, that's not worth it. But if you make the playoffs because of the fact that you had higher expectations, but even if you don't win the division, if, if flacko allows you to get to the playoffs where it looked like with Richardson, you got no chance. And because of the fact that he not only played poorly, but also it looks like there's some maturity things he needs to work on that he needs to learn from that it buys you the time to say, okay, for however long you choose, whether it's one game or for the rest of the season, if it is considering if they're winning with flacko, then at the end of the year, you know, just like Cleveland. Francisco is not going to be back because it would hinder and impinge the progression of your franchise quarterback. And from his standpoint, hey, I got to sit back, I realized where I screwed up, but I also got to watch what was successful and I could work on honing my craft in a little bit passing if that's possible. And then you start fresh next year. What do you think helps the development of Anthony Richardson sitting on the bench or playing games? At this point, I don't think he's getting better playing games and playing the way he's playing with the decisions he's making without inaccurate. He's been with the football. I don't know if there's a way to get him more accurate. I don't know if whatever it's changing his throwing motion or if it's something that drastic or if there's other things that allow him to get better accuracy wise. But I think that at a certain point, there is a time where you have to hit the break and go, we maybe we just need to pause for a second. So what do you think is better for his development sitting on the bench or playing in the game? I think to your point, obviously, everything is always centered around you get better by playing and learning speed of the game and what you need to do with your receivers while you're in game speed and all those things. But if the teams and the locker rooms belief is you need to do what's best for us this season to win on top of everything else, that's a tough decision to make for a general manager and or above. But I think that at this point, he's done enough to say that he doesn't need to play right now. Okay. So I think you said playing is better for the development of Anthony. It is. I said that. Yeah. Well, trade off, like I'm conceding that Flacko is the better option this year. But if the ceiling is a first round exit in the wildcard round of the playoffs is at what cost of Anthony Richardson's development is that worth it? If you're if you're cutting Anthony Richardson's development by 25%, is it worth it? You just reach the playoffs and get routed in the wildcard round? I don't think that it is. I think the best thing that they could do, and I'm with you on the like, Hey, you lost the locker room tapping out. You can't do that as a quarterback 100% agree, completely agree. But I think you need to use this break is basically like an internal suspension. And I think you have to go back to Anthony Richardson quickly, even if it's the worst thing for you this year, because you invested so much in him, you have to see it through. You have to develop him in a wildcard round. Exon isn't worth losing the development of one Anthony Richardson. I hear what you're saying as well. But I think that part of this is that sometimes because there's so much added pressure, if you still are competitive in the conference to try and get a wildcard spot and everything is magnified so much that maybe he doesn't ever get a chance to kind of step back for a second and hit the reset. So now he's pressing even more and he knows every screw up is going to be even more magnified and it's going to have ramifications in the locker room to where not that he's going to have the kind of PTSD of like a David card. I'm getting hit all the time, but at the same time, does he ever get a chance to really truly kind of reset the deck and step back? Yeah, I guess I'm just trying to figure out the value in that like, and I get like the team element and you don't want to lose the locker room. I think the Richardson has lost the locker room, but that's why I'm treating it as a suspension. And I just think the Colts ceiling is so low this year that you have to look out for a guy that you drafted number five, unless you're quitting on him, unless it's the Panthers with Bryce on and you're quitting on him, then fine. If the Colts are quitting on Anthony Richardson, fine, bench him. But if he's still your long term quarterback, he's got to play. He's got to play more games than he then he sits from the bench. All right. 713780 ESPN, a rocket got some revenge in San Antonio yesterday, Jalen Green was fantastic. But it was what Jalen Green said after the game that really got my attention. It is the bees on ESPN 97 five and ESPN 92 five, ESPN nine seven five. You were assertive. This entire game from start to finish. What can that confidence and physicality do for you in your fourth season? You found that killer bees live from the Veritex community bank studios. It's Joel Blanken, Jeremy Branham, Jalen Green, get us to the playoffs. Is this the same guy? Is this the same Jalen Green? I remember when Jalen Green was asked about his goals of his rookie year. I think even before last year, well, I want to score this many points. Well, I want to win rookie of the year. Well, I want to do all of these individual things. What about this year, Jalen Green? I want to make the playoffs. Yes, Jalen Green, Jalen Green last, last night was fantastic. 36 points. Oh, I can't shoot 11 for 22 last night. Oh, I can't make the three seven for 13 yesterday. Also got to the free throw line hit every single one of his free throws, kind of a revenge game after you lost the first game in San Antonio over the weekend. Loved what I saw from Jalen Green on the court, but it was what he said to Vanessa Richardson off the court immediately after the game that makes me think we are seeing the maturation of Jalen Green. It's not about the individual stuff. I'll go show you on the floor that I can do the individual stuff. I'll go show you on the floor that I'm working on my game and my game is improving, but what do I want to? What are my aspirations? What are my goals for the year? None of the individual stuff I want to get us to the playoffs. I love it from Jalen Green and you should. I think that what the way he started this season is a very, very good sign about the maturity, about turning the page, about the focus, about really kind of coming into his zone to show us what he can truly be because we were talking about just before and then right after he signed the extension about still trying to be uncertain about who he is, what he can be, what kind of player he truly is and the value that comes with that. But he has been unequivocally their best scoring player to start the season. He definitely, he's making a lot of tough shots, which he normally does. But I like the fact that he's also going to the basket. When he's going to the basket, he's finishing with authority. There were a couple of times where Wembley bumped him and he hung in the air. He took the contact. He still was able to finish when Stephen Adams set him free with a bone crushing pick. He took it all the way to the, to the bucket and punched it on Sochan. I just feel like this could be the start, hopefully, of where we see him truly settle in to taking his game to the next level and maybe we're taking the team with him. I wonder how many people think that 13 threes is too many for Jalen Green because members being criticized for taking three's an opening night. If you want to criticize and then criticize the head coach because that's exactly what the coach wants. And if as long as they're good, they're good threes, he encourages everybody to take as many as they can possibly take. So if you criticize, you know, the volume of his shots from three, then criticize the head coach. Fred Van Vliet hit that clutch shot and you almost, you almost blew what was a massive lead. Yeah, Tari said, no, no smart play on Chris Paul made it a game, made it competitive and Fred Van Vliet was there for the clutch shot. I didn't have a great game, Fred Van Vliet didn't have a great shooting game. Fred Van Vliet, but nine assists, no turnovers from a point guards good and then you made a critical shot there at the end. One of my favorite things in game that I think hasn't been talked about enough from last night's game. I liked that they involved Jabari Smith a little bit more. I didn't like that he wasn't getting any offensive sets. They weren't drawing a place for him. I think it was the first three of the game first shot of the game. Go to Jabari wide open left wing three drills it. He had a big corner three late in the game. They went to him in the post a time or two. I think like Jabari is not your best offensive option. Obviously Jalen Green's your better option offensive option. Alfie Shenguin's a better offensive option, but when those guys aren't going or they're not in the game, I want to see some stuff drawn up for Jabari, whether it's off the screen, knock down a shot, whether it's get them to the elbow, hit a shot there because I think that's a sweet spot or give them to the post when he has a small guy on him. So that's something that I do want to see more from email in the rocket. And I think this looking at it this way to Jeremy on top of what you said, there are guys, especially as they're younger, and we just talked about Jalen's maturity and development as he gets more into the league and settles in younger guys sometimes need that. They need that so that they stay mentally in tune with the game so that they feel like they truly are a part of the team because a lot of these young guys come into the league and they've been scoring and doing whatever they want at will all the way until they get to the league. And all of a sudden the harsh reality is you're not the man anymore and you're not going to get the shots you used to get. And like you said, they're not going to get plays called like they used to get played called for them. The one that really stood out to me was late in the fourth quarter when they I don't know if it was Jalen or Fred, but somebody used dribble penetration to kick it to him in the corner and include him and he made that shot. And I thought that was so big for him just from his own internal well being to to say they trusted me. They got it to me and I made the shot and that kind of will now translate to the next game to where he can feel like he's part of this and build on it more than if he's just going through the motions and not getting his number called big part of it for me too is I hate whenever he's taking pull up threes like, hey, if you could have draw up a couple of plays drama for Jabari. So he's not taking these pull up threes in transition. They don't want you to do that. Well, the other thing that you and I've talked about to that really frustrates the hell out of me is when they do end up getting him a possession where he's got a mismatch on him. Don't settle for the fade away or the step back or face up shot. Put the put the mouse in the house put put him on put the littler guy on on your hip and go down and get a shot that you can get off over a smaller guy and take advantage of. Yeah. I'm with you on that. I hate fadeaways over smaller guys. The flamingo shot from Alpe Shingoon is one that I hate, especially when it comes from 18 feet. Please stop shooting that. I'll be inside from the fact that it's not aesthetically pleasing. It's rise me. It's not successful. No, it's not bad. Look, it looks like a clown show when he releases it looks like you're playing horse. He's doing it from 18 feet early in the shot clock that what are we doing here. Reach Shepherd. I think it was demoted. Maybe it's maybe was specific because of the opponent, but reach Shepherd was not the first guard off the bench yesterday. I'm in Thompson in the first guard off the bench, but reach Shepherd had been coming in before. Can't wait more. Not the case yesterday and reach ever played just three minutes and yesterday's going to think he was demoted. Yeah. It's possible. I think that with all these young guys and you're trying to find minutes for everybody, these things are going to happen. And young in his first and just getting into his first year in the NBA. Maybe there's a chance, you know, for him to kind of sit back and observe for a little bit. Give some other guys the chance, but I think now that, you know, you're going to work big Steven more consistently in terms of his availability too. You see the veteran presence is still something that that's who would Doka wants to see that he trusts. That's who he wants on the floor at key critical elements and the and points in the game. And that's going to cost some of the young guys as well. But I think that it's going to be a work in progress with who he figures out is into his rotation of the younger guys and if any of y'all are wondering can Brandon Ball just you see what my cousin Malachi did yesterday, 15 points and 17 minutes. It runs in the family. We're cousins, our dad's or brothers. It runs in the family 713 7803776. What's the story of the Rockets players chirping at the Spurs player? That looks like ice ice. So so Chad is kind of like the the Spurs version of Dylan Brooks. He's a crapster or he, you know, I think he in a lot of ways it looks like he patterns his game number hair, everything like a Rodman where he wants to get under your skin. But you know during the I think it was after shoot around, he went out and said they asked them about how you're going to play the Rockets three times in 12 days. And they're a young team. You're a young team. Are they a rival? And he had some choice words. Yeah. Yeah. And he thought he was cute and said F Houston and I like the fact that Fred Van Vliet as a veteran got up in his grill after the game and started pointing in his face and he had Steve Adams right behind him to basically say, knock that off. And if that's what it takes to stir up a little bit more energy between the two teams of a rivalry that used to be there, then so be it. I have no problem with it. I know people were losing their mind on social media this morning about the fact that, you know, how dare he with the whole F Houston and then, you know, like they like to see Fred getting his face. Yeah. The thing that I have with it is if you're going to get into us, I doubt that that's why Fred Van Vliet was in his face. Like, if you're going to do that, well, then why do you do it the first game? He said this before the first game they played. Well, all I know is is that because from what I was told to was that his parting comment was he said it again. So he basically F Houston again as he walked away from Van Vliet, but that this was something that I don't know if he would someone said something after the last game to or maybe tried to send the message, but it seemed pretty adamant that Van Vliet was trying to send the message. He's had a hard time believing that a professional basketball player cares about another professional basketball player saying F the city that you play for three days prior after I think it was more to do with like his little scrum with Jabari because they got into it earlier in the game. I saw I saw so hand dapping up Jalen Green as they were walking off the floor. He got into it last year, I want to say with a men Thompson. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I think there's bad blood. I don't think there is. And I think that I think that from some of the things I heard was was that the players took it personally wasn't about the city or the organization. It was like he was basically saying F the players on the Rockets and they took it personally, whatever the case. Look, it's always good to get a little extra at this point in the season when no one really cares about NBA basketball. Yeah. Also, the fact that you're playing them back to back and they've been chippy in the past. They were chippy in the first game. They were chippy last night. They play it at home coming up soon too. That's I say three games in 12 days. That's what the question was to associate, but here's the thing. Why? You do those when you're playing like the Lakers or a West Coast team. So you kind of minimize the travel and you play the back to back within or you play two games in three days to kind of minimize the travel and the team stays in the city. It's San Antonio. Yeah. The schedule part of it's weird. Just. Yeah. I don't get that. I like the rivalry though. I don't particularly care what so hot had to say about the city of Houston, the city that I love, but I do like that there's a little rivalry between San Antonio and Houston. Whatever they play. It's a lot of fun. A lot of fun. All right. Cashumber trash him. What do you cash in? What do you trash in? It's the bees on ESPN 97 five and ESPN 92 five. Hey, before we go to the break, look, we know the Texans play on Thursday night this week. That means the weekend starts early and your sports watching experience can always be a little bit more interesting. If you believe a certain kind of way about the Texans going into New York to play the Jets and you want to bet it to actually make the game even more interesting, do it at my bookie dot AG with the college football slate ahead and some big games as well as a full docket of NFL with the NBA going now as well. There's always something to bet on at my bookie dot AG. There's all kinds of games and all the games you're watching. 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It's that time of the week where overreactions are welcome. He say Muhammad Ali was the greatest of all time, but he never fought Cassius Clay. What was he afraid of? Boom. I take it. It's cash him. That is so good. That's exactly right. Or trash him. It's your hot date. Hmm. Seems like an overreaction with a killer bee. Give us a hot spoonful of your opinion. Cash him or trash him. What do you cash him or trash him with the bee seven one three seven eight zero three seven seven six blankers. What do you cash him? What do you trash him? Texans make two trades between now and the deadline. I will, uh, I'll cash them. Nicocerias are willing Dylan son of a gun. It's a GM running pick trading free agent, acquiring son of a gun to Nicocerias. I'll cash that. I don't think hard time holding his alligators down. Yeah. Yeah, he's all having a hard time holding those carbs down is what Nicocerias having a hard time holding down. Now I don't know if they're going to be a major consequence though like Nicocerias definitely the guy that would trade for a dude just to help the 53 man roster like he'll trade for a fifth receiver. If it means improving the fifth receiver, he'll trade for a backup safety. If it means improving the backup safety spot, so I'll cash that with, uh, the caveat that I don't think it should be like this huge blockbuster. I think people hear it and they think why receiver in all linemen? Sure. Right away. I think so. Uh, cash or trash? Brian cash. Oh, yeah. I agree with that. I agree with that. I think they make multiple. I've been toning them out ever since he's been playing that nay over and over again. Uh, Jalen green, you said earlier, he's been the best scoring player. I disagree. I think that Jalen green has been the best rockets player so far this season. Cash or trash. Jalen green has been the best rockets player so far this year. Cash. I mean, it's hard not to. The fact that it's one thing to say that he's leading them in scoring, but he's leading them and that's something that I wanted to see that it's not just about the box score. It's about his ability to kind of command the room and command the locker room and get his teammates behind him and do the things that are necessary to win ball games. He's doing all those things. His teammates seem to be extremely pleased with the way he's doing it on both ends of the floor. I mean, you look at Alpe and Alpe's being sat down late in games because of his liabilities defensively. I don't think that there's any argument that he's been their best player, especially and Fred Van Vliet has been less than to assert to a higher degree than I was expecting. Cash him there, Brian, Jalen Green, rockets best player so far. Yeah, I mean, Alpe had a bigger game and well, I don't know if he had a bigger game than Jalen Green. Did they all bench in the second half? No, I'm talking about the opening game against Charlotte. I was looking at that. I mean, they were both good against Charlotte, but yeah, I would agree that I would go ahead and cash it. I think certainly from the offensive side, not that either one does plain dynamic defense, though Jalen certainly played better than Alpe. Oh, come on. You're sleeping on Jalen's D. He's playing better defense than Alpe. I mean, we could argue about how great Jalen is defensively, but I'm giving him the better marks on both the offensive and defensive side, so I will go with you. I'll go ahead and cash it. All right. Brian, my cash in a trash in this is kind of a preemptive strike against the Yankees fans who are going to try to defend themselves with 27 rings. We got 27 rings. I think we have to agree as sports fans that there's a cutoff point to how long you can brag about titles. I mean, certainly you can't, to me, you can't brag about titles before you're born, but I'm going to be even more strict than that. And that last shot was to the all the young Cowboys fans out there who want to talk about 93 and 94, like bro, you were diapers. But to me, once all the players from a championship team are off that team, so the Astros, you know, obviously, a two-way still there from 17, then you can no longer brag about that title. It's been too long. The fans. Cool. You won the title in 2009. You're about to get swept, or at least you're going to get the gentlemen sweep of the four one. I don't want to hear about your 27 rings 2009 was too long ago, but I don't need to hear about what Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig did. Yeah. Yankees and Cowboys are the two biggest culprits here in their fan bases because forever in a day, you still hear about all the Cowboys and how many rings they got and the run that they went on. And it's unrealistic to keep bringing it up when it's been decades. So I'm going to catch that cash, plus the Yankees haven't won a clean world series since 1981. Evan, they've won a clean world series since 1981. Well, they won one in 2009. Do you want me to tell you who was on that 2009 New York Yankee team, a bunch of cheaters, Robinson cano was on that team PD suspension. I believe twice. Alex Rodriguez was on that team PD suspension. I believe twice. Andy Pettit. Sorry. Dear Park. Sorry. You're taking performance. Remembering. No, that's Roger. Yeah. That was Roger. He said is what though. That was his wife shipping. He wasn't on that team. The old 19. Pettit was, but he was not a Yankees won some championships prior to that, 98, 99, 2000. They also had cheaters on the team and whenever they were three beating between 98 and 2000, 1996, cheaters on that team. The last time the Yankees won a clean world series was when they went back to back in 77 78 and do you know who the best player was on that Yankee team when they went back to back in 77 78, Astro legend, Reggie Jackson. The Yankees are nothing if it weren't for cheating in Astro legends, you see two reds is hanging out at the World Series now as like representing the angst. Is that sacrilegious? If he's getting paid by the Astros, is he really having? Yeah. Yeah. They were talking in the forest. Does it make a sound? I'm not watching the World Series. It doesn't matter. I'm sorry. What else do you cash in or trash in 713 7803776 here are a couple Matt saying this Texans offense will be better without digs once they get Nico back. Oh, I'm trashing that. I don't think so. Digs may not be wide receiver one, especially with Nico, but digs has been a good part of this passing game that I can't, I can't say that they're going to be better off without him. The thought process here is that, you know, shroud can go back to stop zeroing in on a singular receiver and can spread the ball around and throw to the open man instead of one specific man. I understand it. I just don't think that they're better off by going with that as opposed to having three guys with the talent level that they had. Oh, I'm going to trash it. Digs has been good. I don't think shroud has been so like dependent and laser focused and zeroed in on step on digs. No, if anyone he was focused in on me, it'd be Nico Collins. What's the step on digs? Yeah. Trash that one. Trash breaking bad is not an all time great show. Well, that one triggers me. That one was supposed to be to bring it back for Thursday. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to, I'm going to trash that, uh, trash that, uh, breaking bad is a top five all time team itself. Yeah, it's awful. That's a, that's a trash there. Trash. I'll leave that to the experts. Uh, two, four, one, nine. Cash or trash. Jalen green will be an all star this year. Ooh, um, I'll trash it. I think it'll be similar to LP. Trash. I think he's going to have a really good season leading up to the all star break. There's just too many all stars to be named and not enough spots. I don't think I'm going to cash it. Jalen green will make his first ever all star appearance for the Western conference in his professional career as he embarks on startup in the NBA. It's average in 29 a game. Okay, it's early four games and, oh, sorry, I wasn't even, uh, I will, man, it's, it's tough. I'm going to trash it. I think, I, I could be with Joel's take. I think this is kind of a year behind like we saw with LP. It takes a year longer than this actually deserved a lot of times in these all star cases. I don't think he makes it all so. Jalen has cash. I'll be just not. He doesn't have a cache, but we've heard guys like Paul George and lots of other NBA players on their podcast raving about what they've seen from Albie. I think he has more cachey than your, your, I'm talking about cache outside of sport. Albie shin goon does not have cache outside of sport, whereas Jalen green has cache outside of sport. I'll be shin goon's not on TMZ every now and then all the green is yeah. I don't know if that's the cache he wants that's attention. It's notoriety. The fingernails is good pub Keith. Jeff Acuda comes back and makes an impact. Trash trash. Yeah, I'm going to trash this to trash unless there's an injury. Hopefully I don't see a few, but in order to make fun back, wouldn't he have already done that by now when he's hurt? I mean, I'm not, I don't think it will happen, but I mean in theory, he could come back. I don't know. Last six games. Well, that would be an impact on the IR. I know. So what are you saying? I'm saying that I'm saying it in at a certain point they don't have a spot for him and they don't want to admit that that was probably a bad sign. They're saying that they're hiding him. Yep. I've heard that too. Cash or trash rockets make a trade for a superstar this season. Trash it. I think they're going to wrap up what they got. I don't think they, okay, and they'll wait if they're going to do anything it'll be in the expiring year for both Fred and four Bill and Brooks. I'm going to trash it too because they have a superstar that is growing right before I'm in on him. I'm going to write before it's not a mid season type of no, they're not, well, they're not going to need a trade for a star because they're going to have a superstar within that mid season. Like who would have a superstar that's giving up in the middle of the season? Yeah, the rocket. They're right. The rocket. Well, I mean, that happens sometimes in the NBA. I know, but I just don't see it as a likelihood that that seems like an off season. They're not going to be a trade for a star because we got a star now. I mean, Houston. You're famous. James Winston. Oh, James. James still. It's close. Oh, wow. 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On ESPN 97.5 and 92.5. Broadcasting live from the Veritex community bank studios. All right, huge gut punch, sports gut punch in the city of Houston today with the news of Stephon Diggs tearing his ACL. I really wish I could read body language a little bit better, but what are the biggest sports gut punches we've seen in this city? 713-780-ESBN-1143-EZ, CP3's hamstring, 3270, but Adams moving the Oilers to Tennessee and renaming them the Titans. I'm actually happy he renamed him and he was going to move the team out. Now he did keep the Oilers for a couple of years, right? Yeah, two years. They were in Nashville. No, they were playing at Vanderbilt State. Well, I guess that was still Nashville, but they're playing at Vanderbilt State here. That's funny. 713-780-ESP. Let's go out to the HRMP listener line. Lance from Baytown. What's a gut punch you got? My mind that I could think of was 2011, Mario Williams went down. We just drafted JJ Watt. I really wanted to see what those two could do coming off the line on the defensive ends. That's a good call. I did not remember that. That's a good call. Yeah, I did. And Mario was good early in that season. I think he played five games, had five sacks. He was playing really well. He got hurt this the rest of the year. The Houston Texans have kind of low-key had some pretty good defensive enduos. Like Mario, JJ, we didn't really get to see that materialized as much as we would have liked. Clowney didn't really live up to the potential of being Jadevion Clowney, but to act like he was a bad football player would be inaccurate. And then now, I mean, even last year, I mean, you had Will Anderson and Bernard who had a big year. This year, you have Will Anderson and Danill Hunter. Like the Texans of low-key've had some pretty good defensive end hearings. Absolutely. Even if you wanted to go and tell me a Smith, JJ Watt. And so Smith was really under the radar, a decent D alignment. 713-780-ESP. Let's go back out to the HRMP listener line. Paying you, what do you got for a Houston sports gut punch? Hey, what's going on, guys? For me, it was in 2012-2011, I want to match up. Got the Liz Frank injury. That's all. I think we already had. We had a really good through walking tent and team in those years. Thank you. Have a great day. There you go. That's when you had to turn it over to TJ Yates, right? Yeah. Well, initially Matt Leidert, he only lasted half a game and then he became TJJ. TJ won a playoff game, did he not? He did. He's tied for the lead for playoff wins in Texas history. That's embarrassing. There really is. It's like a five-way tie for sure. So, Shob's got one, TJ's got one, and DeShawn has one, and CJ has one? We're missing. Oh, also, are you missing, Osweiler? It's a five-way tie for the first one. Osweiler has one, a playoff win game game, since an add-in. You had a chance to get to the Western Conference Finals and literally had a chance to get to the Finals, and that foot injury was just basically pulled the plug on your entire season. They had the Lakers down in the series. They had a chance to win that one. They would have played Denver in the Western Conference Finals, and it was such a demoralizing loss when we found out it wasn't just a sprained ankle or something, that that will always stick with me. Yeah. That whole era, to me, is kind of the same, because whenever Yao was healthy, T-Mac seemed to be hurt. Whenever T-Mac was hurt, Yao was healthy. They could never get healthy at the same time. I feel like the only time that they were both healthy was the year they ran into the Mavs. And they lost by 40-some in the game 7? That year, and I believe the first exit to Utah, they were both healthy. When they lost in 70 Utah, I believe they were both healthy that year. Yeah, they lost that game here. Well, they lost both of those series here, but the second one, when they lost in six, Yao was out, T-Mac was healthy. I love those rockets, too. I love them so much. They were actually, they were deep teams, too. They had all the right role players. They had guys that were really willing to come in and play defense, scrappy guys, good shooting guys. They were really deep teams, but that year, specifically when Yao went down, I just remember him still doubled over in the tunnel, and everybody was just thinking, yeah, just let it be a sprained ankle or something he'd come back from. And then it was like, it was going to alter your franchise. Yeah. Still, it still amazes me that Yao Ming was the number one pick in the draft the year before LeBron James was the number one pick in the draft. The year before LeBron went number one, Yao Ming went number one. They don't feel like the same generation. No, they don't. It's one year prior to LeBron, 713780 ESPN. Let's go back out to the HRMP listener line. Scott from the West side. What's your big gut punch? JR Richard, when he's up in the stroke on the mound, that's a really good one. Scott, I appreciate the call. I read that book that we were sent by that guy who like ranked the greatest as JR Richard, man. That's quite the story. And I knew most of it. I didn't know the extent of it. Like, I didn't know that he was homeless for a good chunk of his life. Eventually got back like on track a little bit like that. What? Well, after baseball, he was living in Korea under the overpass on 59. Yeah, a little bit. And then he got into with a church and then eventually got a job in construction. So he kind of turned his life around a little bit. But yeah, I mean, if you don't have that stroke, he's probably on the short list of the greatest Astros ever. Yep. And it's probably a Hall of Fame pitcher because he had the brief period of time where he was one of the most dominant pitchers in all of baseball was he dominant. I mean, he was I'm growing up in Wisconsin and he was my favorite pitcher. I mean, he just, he could, he was intimidating and just that just the size on the mound, but just the way he could, he just, he was a horse. He could eat up innings and pitches and just mow you down. God, he was, he was an unbelievable pitcher. That's a good call with a JR Richard. All right. 713-780-ESP. And what are your biggest sport gut punches in Houston sports history? 713-780-3776. They get more news off the field than like you lost this, you know, terrible game at the buzzer, you know, a walk off home run or something like that. 713-780-3776. It's the bees on ESPN 97-5 and ESPN 97-2-5. ESPN 97-5.