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Gemara Markings Daf Yomi

Bava Metzia 22b

Duration:
14m
Broadcast on:
21 Mar 2024
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Continuing on Hafbei Zamadala from the first wide line, we have a little story. I underline these three names, Amemar, and then separately underlined Marzutra, and supper underlined Ravashi. So the three of them ikla'u le Bosuna, now Rashi says Bosuna's garden, so I guess this was the Boston Garden. They went to the Boston Garden. They basically went to somebody's orchard of Hu, not Red, but Murray, Murray Bar-Isak. I see, I re-say, Tamri, so the sharecropper of Murray, because Murray wasn't there right now, the sharecropper brought out some Tamri Veremoyni, some dates, and some pomegranates for Shahdakamayu, and sort of chucked it out in front of them that spilled it out, placed it out. Shahdiy is a legend of sort of like throwing. Did the rabbis eat it? Well, Amemar, who I underlined, and Ravashi, who I underlined, Akhli. The two of them did partake, whereas Marzutra, why also underlined, lo Akhli, he did not eat. Okay, obviously Marzutra felt, for whatever reason, we'll see maybe why, not comfortable eating. Adahakhi, in term, I guess, as some time went by, Asa came along the owner of the field, Murray Bar-Isak. Ashdiyonwani found his three distinguished guests, and he found a sharecropper. Vamra de la Risa, he said to a sharecropper, Amaylai, I sis lehu le rabbanamahana, shipirta. Why didn't you bring for these rabbis from the better stuff? The shapira's better is the good, like the best stuff, and you know what? They checked, and there actually was better stuff. So Amrulai, at that point, Amemar and Ravashi said to Marzutra, "Well, hashdah, at this point, Amaylai al-Klamar. Why are you not partaking of it? Like, maybe you were concerned, since the sharecropper brought it, that the owner would be happy, but look what he said, Vatanya, and even the brisa." Like, we had said up above, quote from the brisa, about six words, imnim-sri-yavas-man. If the owner comes and he talks about bringing from the better stuff, and there actually is better stuff, then in that case, Truma, say Truma, that was an indication that the Truma would be a valid Truma. So Marzutra, why are you not eating? Amrulai says Marzutra back to them, haqiyammar rava, that rava explains his follows and that's why I am not eating. Loyamru, when the owner or the balabas comes back and tells the servants or the shaliyach, klakhate-sliyavas, you should have chosen the better stuff, that's only going to work in Truma, bhilvat, that's if the issue that was done was a separation of Truma, because that's actually a mitzvah, mitzvahoo, venni-hale, that's probably, say, I don't know who was here, it might have been in not even sure, but anyway, the mitzvah and therefore it's assumed to be very beloved and desirable to the owner of the field, the balabas, haqah, what was going on over here, when Murray Barisic showed up and showed that we were eating mishum ksi fusa, who the amarachi was simply because he was probably felt bad, was embarrassed, that's why he was saying it, not that necessarily he really fully meant it. I don't know why it wasn't a mitzvah to feed the Rabbanan, and I'm not sure what the Truma was if they were all in Bhaval, but anyway, tashmah, so we have another triangle, this is upside down, the 11th of the 12 that are brought, the Bryce of the Gomorbrings goes until the third word on the base. We know that four things that grow from the ground, as they're attached to the ground, like apples, oranges, things like that, they cannot become tummy. Once they're detached, like picked or harvested, they can, as long as they have had contact with liquid, it's called the makshir to prepare them to makapal too, and it has to be an encounter with liquid or rinsing off, or something, but let's say they spread out some produce and left it overnight, and there was a layer of dew on the produce. That's where we pick up here. Odeu Hatala Layen, the tall is on top of the produce, the samach and the owner of the field knows, and he's happy about it, Harayu, then it becomes the category of bhihi yutan, which is the elushna of the possuk, when water comes into contact, water or liquid, with the produce, that's when it makes it makshir to makapal too, makapal too, makapal too, makapal, however, kama, nagvu, if before the fruit owner got there, the dew had already dried off, so there was no more moisture there, afal pisha, samach, even though he's thrilled, if he hears there was dew on it like an hour or two ago, inan bhihi yutan, that would not count as makshir in those perils, the kabal too, makah, that's even if it's an egg source. Now, taima mai, what's the reason that they're not considered bhihi yutan? Laav mi shum, is it not? Because de loa amrina, I double anon de loa, must be, because we do not say, "Hey, you're okay, when do you gloy mulso de hoshto nihole?" Since we now know that the owner of the boss is, you know, now he's happy with it, mihi karanami nihole, then originally he also would have been okay with it. We don't say that, that would be a question on rava, because rava said that if we know he's going to mihi ish later, we could assume the yayush halakha kicks in even before, but we're not saying that over here. So the gomartians don't answer, shiny hosam, no it's different over there, de ksi, because when it comes to peros being makshir, the kabaltuma, because when it comes to being makshir, regarding peros, the kabaltuma, shiny hosam, it's different over there, de ksi, the posuk as it's written is written, kiyutan yud, taf nun sofi, without the vov, however it's read, kiyutan, but it's written, it sounds like if you were just read it as it looks like it should be read, is kiyitan, which would be ajiitan, actively putting liquid onto the newly detached produce, meaning detached from its source, that would be what would be necessary according to the posuk to make it makshir, kabaltuma, well, as of marihaka, rishanami, and even in the earlier case, he didn't put any liquid on, like, do happen to fall into it, he didn't put it on, well, the reason that is going to be good, lakshir, those peros, kabaltuma, kidura pappa, on the one hand, ksi, the posuk says, like if you're just eyeballing the words, kiyutan is written without a vov, which actively putting liquid on it, vicarina, however, when you read it in shul, or you're just reading the posuk, you read it as though there's a vov in there, kiyutan, and the term 'yutan' is passive, that liquid is placed on it, hakait, that's for how so, poinan, you have to have the kiyutan, if it's going to be liquid passively coming to contact with it, dumya, similar to the kiyitan, when it's actively put on, what's the, like, by definition, if the owner is putting liquid on, my yitane ladaz, he knows about it, he's okay with it, afkol, so af, so to kiyutan, passively, nami, lidaz, it also has to be lidaz, that he should know at the time that it's put it down, and be, uh, be okay with it, be happy with it, that's, that's great. So tashma, the last of our twelve triangles, this is a upside down triangle, seems like we're more upside down triangles, we had the last four, really four out of the last six, we're upside down. So here we go, again this is going to be upside down triangle, and it creates a question on rava, dama rabiat, let me show him, maybe, either it be shmall, or shimbin, you'll sod up the following, six line taniksorps. The nine-lavada shashat fanar, how do you know if it's a, uh, something that got lost because the river, uh, washed it away, flooded it away, shimimu terrace, that the finder is totally mucher to, uh, take it, keep it, it's there as well. Dixi the pasek says, reinta se le chameirai, reinta se le samasoy, reinta se le cholavada sahikah, sher toivad, mimenu, oomitza sa, that's quite a quote for the pasek, uh, reinta se so, so, so too shall you do, like, return his, um, donkey, and so shall you do his, uh, his garments, bechaintasen, so shall you do, you the finder, to any lost item of your brother, uh, sher toivad, that is lost, mimenu, from him, oomitza sa, now, could you set a sher toivad, that's lost, oomitza se, and you find it, what's that, that's lost from him? Oh, it comes to teach you something. Mishaavuda, heimenu, oomitzu yoko, it's a colada. That the typical case of the pasek is about is where it's lost from the owner, but it's, uh, available to, uh, many other people, yotsu sa, zu, to the exclusion of when a river comes and just flushes everything away to far off, who knows where it plays, that's avudamimenu, veinamitzu, it's a colada, I don't know, most people know where that is, that stuff's off way down the, uh, the river. That's the end of the snake source, now vissura, dumidete, we're going to compare when it's usher to when it's matsu, which is actually from the same term, we're learning the yeser and the hetter, and it goes like this colon, mahatera, when is it mutter for the finder just to take it, when the, the shot fanar, the river, flood waters, wash it away, that's bendi ispaasimen, oom, and de leispaasimen, whether the item has a simmon, doesn't have a simmon, sure, it's totally permissible because the owner totally gives up hope regardless of whether there's a simmon or not, of ever getting it back, kama, afisura, so too when it comes to something that is usher, and one of the guiding factors for that is like, it's usher because there's lots of people who could, who could see it and maybe go and pick it up, caveland, bane, excuse me, de ispaasimen, whether the item has a simmon, can't keep it, then de leispaasimen, and I got it like leispaasimen, even if it doesn't have a simmon, it would be usher. Now if it doesn't have a simmon, that's basically our case, where the owner, when he finds out about it, it's going to be yayesh, but yet, the item currently is usher, just if it happens to usher, apparently, even if it doesn't have a simmon to usher, to use it to rava, should we say that it refutes rava, indeed it does refutes rava, so rava would have said that yayesh lemidas is good yayesh, no it isn't, be hilkhasa, um, hilkhasa kevasa kevasa kevasa baaye, and the halacha, we pass like a baaye, usually we pass like rava, this is one of the six examples where we pass like a baaye, bet, in the cases of yud ayinlamid kuf gimomem sofi, yah al-kagam, the yud of the al-kagam is the case of yayesh lemidas, that's one of the six exceptional cases where we pass like a baaye. Amalir of al-khabreid, de rava le rev ashi, just a type loose end here, the kimen akhadi tai saif rava, since rava was slogged up, then honey tami desiki, when you have these wind-blown dates, you're walking on the street, you see it was very windy, and there's like a date that's there that was blown off from some palm tree, who knows where, hey he has lemimu, how can, you know, we know that people just pick them up, and probably say a brahah, and eat them, now how can you do that, isn't, how do we know that the owner knows about it, maybe when the owner finds out about me, yayesh lemidas, maybe he has lemimu yayesh lemidas, lo avi yayesh, so amalay answers, rev ashi, well, kevan deikas kasimu ramaasim, since we know there's lots of bugs, creepy crawlies, when a date gets blown off, a date owner's, a date tree, de kahakuluhu, and these creepy crawlies, when they get to it, and they won't be that long until they get to it, we'll eat it, mi ikara, like, even before any dates fall off the tree, makhli, or makhi lemimu, mi ikara yayesh miyyashimino, that from the beginning, the owner of the tree will be miyyash, knowing anything that blows off, the most likely outcome is that the shkatsum or amasim are going to get it, all the insects, all the bugs, all the little rodents, and therefore like, even before they fall off the tree is miyyash, so it's not a case of yayesh lemidas. What about yasimu, let's say, the dates, the date palm trees, are owned by yasimim, they're little children, de la vene makhi lemunu, they're not old enough to holastically be michael, those dates, what would he say? Well, ama lei sos ravaashibag, baga, the valley, the cultivated valley, the area where these date palm might be, but already yasimu lemikaskinan, we're not going to assume, like, we have no idea, so there's no way when you find a date, you would assume that it might be from the mutes of the mutes of the minority of the minority of the orphaned owned date palms, we're not going to assume that. Well, most of the, oh, you made my, let's say, you happen to know, I know you're saying date palms that are owned by yasimu, and you know this date came from them, what would we say then? About a carcassa, mai, what would we say about a carcassa rashi says, you have date palms sometimes that have a big, we call them nowadays, like almost hot house or green house type of things, that there are no bugs there. Ama lei, so ravaashi answers that actually those would be yasir, because of the basic principle of yasimidas lo have yasimu. The bishop continued, and mutes of yasim next year, we will continue at gun.