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Gemara Markings Daf Yomi

Bava Metzia 22a

Duration:
14m
Broadcast on:
21 Mar 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

and half of them at base and the last line is a schma and ready for the zeta we had triangle that and called number eight and half base of medallif about six lines down first term a line is tashma I put an upside down triangle that tashma that's number nine about nine lines later first word on the line is yauch in the middle line is a tashma triangle on that tashma with a regular right side up triangle number ten all the way down on the bottom not the bottom line but right above that last two words in the line are tashma that gets an upside down triangle and that's number eleven and about eight lines down on half base and with base first word on the line is you ton in the middle lines the tashma that gets an upside down tashma so let's go back to the bottom of half all the moment base tashma again we have a maklokis about yayushu lemidas rashi describes that case as being something was lost is a type of thing that when the owner finds out about it he'll definitely be miayash like he'll say I remember I don't have any hope of finding it however that hasn't yet happened when the finder finds it what do we say do we say yayushu lemidas like Abai says it's not a good yayush because like he hasn't actually been miayash or like Rob was there's no sense we know that when he does come around to thinking about it he'll be miayash so tashma we have a today's source here it goes till the middle of the second line on half base but all of hagana vice we learn hagana but ganar shanat al-mizev and al-sana-zay ganar robin hood he steals from bob and gives it to Carl or bahain ghazan and alan ghazan somebody who's like an outright thief a brazen thief shanat al-mizev and al-sana-zay steals from bob gives it to Carl the hagana and for that matter the Jordan River and the author of this make source rasha says probably lived along the Jordan River that was the common river that would sometimes come along shanat al-mizev that swept up something from Bob's field or from Bob's property or of Bob's venus in the zen and dropped it off somewhere else by some other person probably further downstream masha natal natal masha natin al-sana which was taken taken was given was given that's the end of the snake source now bitch them how we understand there are two of the three cases gazlan a outright brazen in the open thief and yardin the Jordan River dikha kazi lehoo-miyayash well the right phone or probably saw it if the gazlan came in the guy just like walked right in took something so the owner saw it or he saw it washed away by the river eleganov isn't this standard understanding of Ghana of someone who comes and steals like in secrecy or private not under the watchful eye of the rightful owner eleganov mikha kazi lehoo-miyayash well did like the owner see that he should be miyayash and yet we said what was done was done which sounds like yes lemigas is a good yayush that's like rava question on a bye and just like a mara nope you're going to pop up explain that the case here of Ghana this more of a like like a general colloquial like a uh... a thief the list in Missouri happens to be a armed bandit well one second any hockey high new gazlan the gazlan is a someone who steals like in the open in our bandit steals out in the open well and just a little more trade off the gazlan there's two different types of gazlan there's the gazlan type of gazlan and now the gazlan doesn't necessarily have weapons uh... maybe that's maybe doesn't but the list in the museum it definitely does have a weapon and uh... that's a different case which we're going to say that term Ghana is referring to so tashma a upset on trial the tashma this is the ninth uh... it's an x-horse that will bring and it it's a source goes for just over two lines and says as follows shut off the heart of the uh... river uh... uh... flooded and a person who had let's say some piled up beams or uh... would or uh... stones got washed away by the river so shut off now care of his beams aids of his would have on over his stones venos nubus a so that they're gonna put it into someone else's field harelu shalayi belongs to the new person who's feel that was just placed in by the uh... by the flooding river mime nation is not sure about them we're given a reason here because the previous uh... rightful owner was meyay sh that's in this next source according to that mmm the more makes it to you time of the reason why the new the person who's field it was just dropped off and by the uh... raging water didn't see i should buy was because the owner was miayay sh um... the one was miayay sh the way the rush explains it is because the by them no like when there's a real flood everyone knows and basically everyone's miayay sh the deal could be though comma hot stama over was a case of stam let's say another of a de that we don't know exactly what the bylim is said knows or doesn't know um... personally will not be long to the person who finds them that would be a castor of a who said that usually does it like when he hears about it it will be uh... yayush uh... so that we make it used and i don't like that from this in a source well says the more in defense of uh... rovs opinion haka my skin and the thing is that over here what are we talking about we're talking about kashir yachol la hatsil but a case where if you wanted to as he sees i don't know one of his uh... beams being uh... slowly washed away if you wanted to it wasn't like a terrible flood he could save it where the parallel case by a lost item is something that has a simon where if he wants to the claim it he'd be able to give the simon and claim it um... there of it would agree uh... that you would have to give it back if you're the finder well says the barry hockey if that's the case what do we do with the safe uh... here's a one-line quote of the continuation of the later part of the take source we finished two lines ago emayu by the mirad finacharean if the owners were um... desperately running after whatever those lost items were then the finder finds them hai vahaxer would have to give it back if the case is we just established it says the more ebi hai hai la hatsil if they can be um... easily saved though why is it required if they can easily say that the owner be currently like chasing after the my area one word in right angles mirad fin afilo even aimaratrin nami even if the person's not chasing after them he knows he could get it tomorrow the next day and it'll do it then so why don't we say that well i'm asking on the case over here is that it's sort of somewhere in the middle it's not that it's easily saved and it's not that it's impossible to save it's here on the hot so the items of question can be saved by the rightful owner but it will take some great current effort all the day had to hack and therefore if he's mirad fin we seem chasing after whatever things were getting lost loiyosh it's pretty clear that he's not being miaish whereas aimaratrin is not going after them currently then you can be pretty well assert that yoish meushi or yia ushi miaish you will definitely be miaish because there's no way to be able to get it if he's not going to go now to try to retrieve them period tashma another day of source this one goes for about eight nine minds and uh... starts here quesad amru like how is it that uh... they have said in general and halacha let's say i have uh... produce that a grown artist role uh... one of the things that i have to do after uh... i pick it before i can eat any of it is i have to give certain gifts to certain people the first thing that's usually done is the initial to take approximately two percent and uh... give it to the local coin so how is it that they have said that a term shalomigas truma said somebody who goes uh... to separate out truma without the knowledge of the owner of the field in this guy's on the field that is a good truma well imagine this or is he or the talks about their imagine i go into bob's field vily cate and i gather some uh... grain betarum shalibir is just and then i like that don't take a chunk off uh... for the co-end and i did not have uh... permission now colon even clicish and on the word in clicish we are concerned here with this case michum gazel because of like uh... some sort of thievery issue then a truma sa truma the truma that uh... took would not be good whereas in love and if not truma sa truma would actually be a good truma and it can go to the coin now in the world he's supposed to know that well me nyan ask them or who you dare how does the uh... field owner know in michum gazavim love how does the person who's suffering the truma how do we know that here's a clear indication rule of thumb sort of uh... way to guide us harisia bob ala bias if the owner of the field comes oomat sa vamar and he finds this fellow uh... that uh... harvest it all this uh... produce and separate out some to the co-end but i'm already says to that guy clock it's only a place you should have gone taken from the better stuff then we check colin is he being sarcastic or to be honest in this week office and if there actually is better stuff like higher quality stuff than that field truma sa truma than it would be a good truma because he's basically saying he's fine with it team love and if not a truma sa truma if you go and check and either ain't nothing better this uh... guys possession that's uh... the higher quality and he was being incredibly sarcastic and the truma that was taken by this uh... a fellow is not going to be good licked up by the place if a land if the owners came back they actually continue like harvesting and picking and and throwing it on to the pile then for sure bank account that car truma sa truma would definitely be a good truma is clearly indicating the owner of the field by his actions that he's he's good with this that's the other price of notes the camarra the fee when we said in the above rice and nimtsu yafos mehen truma sa truma why in the world if when he said i want to take from the better stuff there actually is better stuff why is that going to be a good truma am i but in a deterrent we know though that at the time that the truma was separated ha lo have a yada he didn't no and that would be a support for rava who would say this concept of uh... usually that's how the usual is even though we don't know now the person as we can assume uh... beforehand he would have been so too over here um... since when he knows that this is separating out the truma he's fine with it we must say that uh... originally also uh... will be the first always fine with it that would be a support for rava however it would sort of be a question to a by a and in the tremendous honesty of the hamley royja talent bobbly tearing up a rava leave it up by a rava who this is actually support for answers however i would answer it even though this was a question on his bar put up by a well this shall be a shall be of the case is where the master had made this fellow a shall be a how can i miss out that we have to be talking about a case where the fellow who did this harvesting and separates from truma was made a shall be a of the field owner he said that i thought of the shall be a if you were to think that he was not appointed shall be a me have your true master truma would that even work at all we said that is separating after the truma works really somebody who's not a shall be out of someone else can do the truma that ha that's just not the case because we have in the past when it says it could have just said the word attempt instead the person has an additional word gum attempt by double and i got my time our rava mona the rava is which comes to include chucham that my attempt just like you when you are taking truma from your own stuff with a time you know about it after a time so to the shall be a that you have to separate out to mela dot com has to be with your knowledge a lot of my skills on what's the case over here he's going to show you shall be a he appointed initially up on the way and he said to me zil trime uh... ok mister she'll go and uh... take some truma from the field stuff obviously below yammer they have read in specify to the schliach trying to honey i think it is a term of from this particular produce the schliach has been given a mission of separating us from truma which level of produce is what's the separate out from this time it connected about by his key tarma in general when you have a person who owns a field and he's separate stuff out from his own stuff me being in this who tara me takes the truma from the um... average stuff not the best stuff not the worst of the average stuff but as a lead what happened with the schliach though he went the tara me the office he separated out from the high-quality stuff uh... bob a lot of ice on the ball by showed up on what's found in vamra land he said to him clap is the office uh... you should go on to the better stuff that's what we said it in the industry office if we check into it and there actually is better stuff of quality in this field then truma so truma than the truma that he did previously was valid beam love and if not then the fact that the owner of the field said he won't check on better stuff and there is no better stuff that's clearly indicating that the owner was not happy in and therefore the truma that was done the separating out those done by uh... this fellow is not and she was a true and not a good