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Stolen Youth—with Montgomery Toms

Montgomery Toms tells Charles Malet how his experiences of profound psychological abuse as a teenage schoolboy during lockdown have shaped his vision for the future and his hopes for his generation. Read the write-up: www.ukcolumn.org/video/stolen-youth-with-montgomery-toms

Duration:: 52m
Broadcast on:: 31 Oct 2024
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So if you can cast your mind back several years and just describe life as it was as a school boy in the immediate period before the COVID show started, how was it in that system living, what was, I suppose, apparently a sort of normal life? Yeah, well, that's actually a very interesting question because the thing about young people is we're kind of the education system meddles with our mind, it meddles with our approach to the world and it convinces us to believe all sorts of things which aren't actually true. So when lockdown here, I was 14, and when you're that age, you're still sort of in that transition phase of growing into an adult and whatever. And because of that, you're kind of more sensible than most people who are at the higher end of education because you're yet to go through the complete process. So when lockdown or the talk of lockdown or the talk of COVID and all of this was coming into play, no one really cared. And the rational sort of conversation was, oh, well, it's just a flu, oh, well, it doesn't affect young people. And I was like, yeah, that was the general consensus. And then I carried that on. And this is why I say it's not like I discovered some sort of truth. No, it's the fact that I just stuck to the truth, and my peers somehow managed to get hijacked and became the people who reinforced the government narrative. So before lockdown hit, before all of that nonsense came into play, pretty rational. But I imagine your next kind of question will be transitioning into what it was actually like during lockdown, how my generation responded to that and what it was to go back into education. And this is something that I've detailed on so many occasions. And now I can sort of lay it out in a sentence or two because I'm very well versed in it. So essentially, so when I was 14 lockdown here, I had my 15th birthday in lockdown, or I wasn't in lockdown, other people were, I was free to do what I wanted because I chose to be. And I went back into education and the way I usually word it is, it's like, I was not prepared at all, that the cognitive dissonance was unbelievable. I had no idea that people were going to fall for this, especially as I grew up, not in a city, grew up in a village in Lincolnshire. So it's not like it's pretty sparse, the population's not like you're rammed with people. It's quite a relaxed sort of attitude, lots of farms, that kind of thing. So I didn't see any worry of going back to school until I saw young people standing in circles and sanitised stations everywhere, people choosing to wear masks, teachers acting like little dictators within the classroom. My science teachers who I thought I'd have faith in towing a line and not, I thought the science was so obvious and I was so sheltered with my family and what they would bring me up to believe that I thought everyone else would follow suit, but no, my science teachers, the ones who I looked up to as the oracle in terms of science were complete morons. And I was in a bubble and I'm not using that term as in, you know, COVID bubbles, but I was in a school bubble of utter, contemptible, ridiculous, backwards thinking hysteria. And because of that, you know, just for a more detail, something I touch on a lot on is like mass surveillance and people always, they say like, oh, well, there's nothing wrong with cameras being across London because if you've not done anything wrong, you've got nothing to hide. And I say, no, but what you've got to be concerned about is what that sort of infrastructure and surveillance system, what that surveillance system, how that can be used negatively. And I always take people back to me being within school because ultimately that's a perfect example. They use the CCTV cameras that they had across school to track the students and if a student had him in contact with another student who had a probably a false positive COVID test, three quarters of the year would be sent home. I was literally sat in classes with five students and most of the year group or because one person got a positive COVID test and the thing is the way they do it honestly was like you were living in Nazi Germany and I use that, you know, you'll see why like they'd come around my, though each classroom, I was the deputy head of the clipboard and everyone's heads would just sort of go, and then be like, can these names please follow me down to the school hall? If you read out a list and everyone would be funneled down into the school hall and they'd go home for two weeks and the fear and then they brought in the masks and then the masks were you only have to wear a mask in the corridors but in the classroom you're fine and outside you're fine. Then it was you only have to wear a mask in the corridor and if you stand up in the classroom you have to put one on because that makes loads of sense and then it was you have to wear them in the corridor and in the classroom and then it was you have to wear them every way outside while you're eating your lunch, people were like pulling them down and eating and it just, you know, no wonder, I mean I would love to see at some point a study of long-term data to see how that kind of implementation of masks, that level of fear affected my generation specifically because I was what other generations, my age group age 14, you know, that sort of paramount transition into adulthood and we were affected I think more than most other younger generations because it's a very, very pivotal part of your progression. So yeah, there's a rough overview of what it was like before lockdown and then during the madness. Yeah, and it's obviously still and quite rightly so, a very emotive subject and as you say, a really critical time of life, I mean frankly any moment during childhood, I think what you articulate will have resonated with the vast majority of the UK column audience in that before the madness really started, it seemed impossible to believe that anybody was going to go along with it and yet what in the inner school context when you saw your peer group initially dismissive of it and then the change came into play. It might be a bit hard to articulate but where do you see that as having come from in terms of influence? Was it parents or was it teachers or was it in effect sort of an amalgam of both? How did it come to pass? That's a good question. I purely say a combination but ultimately as a young person in school, you're in education and you're more focused on school education than you are in your home life and for seven hours of the day, teachers are considered your parental guardian. In that moment, they're there to look after you, they have to put your students first and they never did that. I'd say that the students, the teachers are more responsible because parents, a lot of parents, I know were quite blase about it but they felt they had no responsibility revolving around protecting their child whereas the teachers were so scared because of the media, because of the government, because of the, well, blatant nudge theory and fear manipulation that was happening across the UK that they were equally as terrified to get things wrong. They would go above and beyond to try and make young people stay in line and it was madness. We couldn't open the windows because apparently that would spread the air round too much. Their logic is even, their illogical logic is even illogical, we couldn't sing because we'd be pushing particles out of our mouth. We couldn't shout, we couldn't share equipment, one of the most crazy examples of the things that teachers used to ask us to do and how anyone took this seriously, I don't know, is if we wanted to go to the bathroom, we had a system where we were all within pods and only one person at a time would be allowed to go to the bathroom across the year group, so it was like a system involved where other classes would know if another student had gone to the bathroom, right? So one of the ways they did that, they had this card and you'd go up to the front of the classroom and you'd pick up the card and you'd go to the bathroom, you'd come back and then you'd sanitize the card, right? So that's bonkers enough and the reason you'd sanitize the card is to get rid of the germs, but you didn't sanitize the sanitized sprayer, so that's okay, you know, and I remember distinctly the person who enforced this concept or whatever you want to call it the most was my science teacher and how, as a student, I was supposed to take that my science teacher then seriously and have respect for education, respect for, you know, the curriculum, I don't know, but it was utterly mental, the teachers specifically were awful and actually I'll name one more example which is more personal and direct towards me is I never were a mask on the bus, for example, that's something I refuse to do and I remember I was walking with the head of behavioural management and this was just after I refused to wear a mask and I was basically told you've got to wear an exemption in a lanyard or you're going to have to sit in my office, you know, for every single day of your until this is all over and I can get on to that subject in a second, but anyway I was walking through the corridor and the head of maths walked past and shouted, "Moncy, I've just been told that you've been wearing a mask on the bus." Now, I don't know where she got that from because I never wore one on the bus but a teacher, I don't know whether she was told something or she made up a complete lie but later on I found out that she was a complete COVIDian, really hot on it and it would not surprise me if a teacher was so conflicted and so offended by the fact that I wear a mask that she attempted to come up with some sort of way to trip me up or make me look silly as if I'm some sort of hypocrite and that's an example and I imagine one of many across the educational board and then to finish off like when I wouldn't wear the lanyard, I refused with who I said, "Look, I don't understand, everyone's telling the line here, everyone's going to wear it, you know I'm exempt, most of the teachers is a small school, most of the teachers know me, I'm not going to put this lanyard on." What ended up happening is I took the lanyard which I wouldn't put around my neck and because of how uncomfortable teachers are around most things with students, I clipped the lanyard on my belt so it hung in front of my crotch area, right? So when I came into school they said, "Right, you're not wearing it in my office." I said, "No sir, you see I am wearing it just in my own way and I am butting to my blazer and from that point forward nobody ever asked to see my lanyard again because they were too uncomfortable to look in that direction, you know, clever ways to try and play the rules." Well rules is that, you know, that's exactly the bit that I want to pick up on because for the adult population that saw it, it was very clear that this was purely about rules, about authoritarianism, about control and absolutely nothing to do with health. Now, school children in general are not so good with rules. How did your peer group behave in relation to all of this whilst it was going on? So this is the funny thing, because I was always, I never went along with rules in school, I was always kind of like a bit cheeky, you know, I was just, got my head down at times, I didn't push things too far but I never really, you know, I was never rude to teachers, I never chucked things, that kind of thing. Whereas all the students who were like the hard kids, the bullies if you like, you wore puffer jackets and used to act like they were all cool and used to get in fights and they used to shout at teachers and get kicked out and temporarily excluded and all of this, suddenly they're the ones wearing the masks and suddenly they're the ones who are towing the line on these rules and they were quite affronted by the fact that I wouldn't and I do remember as an element of kind of envy and they're looking, they're gonna be the hard kids but they're getting scared by a virus that kills, you know, no young people virtually. So it was amusing and I used to mock them, I'll be honest, I was more arrogant back then and I'd walk into school and I'd just look at them and I'd just laugh, I'd go you look like a total idiot and they used to wear it, they wouldn't wear it all, or they'd wear it as like a chin strap, you know, under their nose and they'd lift it up and down and they'd try and be cool, it's just like, come on guys, you're gonna be the rebels here, you're gonna be cool, you're gonna not like the rules and yet you won't, you know, put your tie up properly and you'll always have your own top button undone but you'll wear a mask, you'll follow the one way system, you'll sanitize your hands and the students went along with it because they were scared, and the result of not going along with the rules made you very unpopular, made me very unpopular, you know, I was, until people started to sort of see that I was maybe saying something with a bit of truth, I was very isolated, I had, you know, people refused, I just attacked regularly, I'd have six young lads come up to me while I, you know, in the kind of communal areas and be like, you're responsible for potentially killing my grandfather and I suddenly, education school for me became a battle rather than going there to learn stuff, so yeah, I would also add that I don't blame young people, I think that I know before I was really angry at young people but now I kind of get it on reflection, the immense pressure to be different in school in general is there, but then to couple that with all the Covid hysteria and that being pushed on them and rammed on them constantly, I kind of have a lot of forgiveness there, I don't blame young people at all. Well, I mean, that's a very noble thought and sentiment and, you know, does speak volumes about your attitude to life, not just now, but also then, now, you know, you put a, in fact, a positive spin on what was truly a terrible time, at what point during all of this as it evolved, did it become clear to you that life was not going to go back to normal? That's a very interesting question. I'd say college, so my educational sort of career, if you like, was school and then I went to college for doing a diploma, which is like the equivalent of A levels, and then I went on to university, but I only lasted three weeks at university if you want to get on to that later, you can. But it was at college and the reason being is I remember, I remember being 16, so I was 14 and 15 and I'm 16 and the Covid stuff is still kind of in the atmosphere of school and I was really looking forward to leaving behind school because I wanted to make friends. I wanted to be young, I wanted to have a life and I went into college for my first day and I kind of kept my mouth a bit closed, which is very rare for me, I didn't want to get on the subject of it, I just wanted to enjoy being young a little bit and then after about three weeks, four weeks, the government perked up and said, look, there is a rise in Covid again and the colleges, you know, it is pricked up and I went, now look, we're not going to tell people to wear a mask, we're not going to make it a mandate, but we would thoroughly request that colleges opt to bring them in and schools and universities. And to go back to your question, it's when my college chose to bring in masks, chose to bring in the mandates and then I watched my generation continue to go along with the madness that I then went, right, this has changed something, there is a different approach, society has shifted and this is no longer, there's no sanity involved here and that's when I chose, right, well, enjoying my youth, that's over, back to trying to fight against all of this stuff and refusing to go along with it and I made myself very unpopular again and I ricked down all of the kind of hands, face, space, posters and the other thing my college had is this is when the Covid jab was made readily available for young people and all of the computer screens, for example, would have on the back of it, get your jab now, you know, just just thinking how that this is just drip fed constantly to affect young people, get your jab now everywhere, you've got posters, I've got my Covid vaccine, you've got the whole sticker nonsense and then they had a tent, like a big tent outside the college and once a day everybody got to go and get their test and they come into the classroom, be like, right, class, such and such and you'd walk down the corridor and you'd be asked to go and get your test and the thing is, I said no and this was something that was really interesting, my class thought I was a bit outlandish, very rude, outrageous, very offensive in my approach, but then they realised how easy it is to just say no, my generation and young generations, of course, are very addicted to being, you know, not being different and to toeing the line because it makes them feel more comfortable and it's awkward to be different, you know, that's something that people have known for centuries, but with this, they saw me regarding the Covid test just saying no, I'm not taking it and they saw how easy it was and that's when dialogue started to be had between myself and peers and I managed to get by the end of my career at college, my entire class, pretty much listening to me and understanding where I was coming from, so I, you could say, some would say I brainwashed them, some would say I deprogram them, who knows, but I definitely think it was the latter. Good view, that's a heck of a story, now brainwashing was in fact what I was going to ask you about because obviously you were alive to this from the start, education, as we now know it, certainly for the older generations is often seen as an exercise in brainwashing or indoctrination or whatever you like, what other pressures did you sense being put upon you whilst in that environment? So here's one for the older generations might not know about and this one is horrible, this one, it was my final fight if you liked it in college and I almost, you know, it was very, this is an awkward moment because I got on really well with my lecturers but there was one line I refused across and something that the government, people may not know this but something that the government influenced within education and it may even be a point now where this is made compulsory, it is, you have to have these lessons and in my college they were called personal development sessions which sounds all nice but that was a broad, contained very broad subjects not limited to conspiracy theories for example and they'd sneak in there if you believed that the COVID vaccine doesn't work, you're a conspiracy theorist, you're a bad person such and such, if you believe that and then they tie that in with the really extreme stuff like the world is run by aliens, everyone's lizards and the earth is flat, so they'd combine your standard vaccine kills is bad and young people don't need to take it with really, really like outlandish claims and make people like me look absolutely crazy, then you've got all the pronoun stuff, all the misgendering stuff, all the diversity nonsense which they would suffocate us with, I mean there was pronoun badges, we had to ask people first, you know what they want to be referred to us and this is in college and it gets worse when you get to uni but that was when I was there and I've been doing a little bit, a few street interviews recently in fact with younger people trying to gauge what's going on within education because I feel like it's changed even since I was there which wasn't too long ago and I'm told that these young guys are telling me they're getting excluded for disagreeing with this stuff, they're getting put in isolation, one guy said he was in isolation and it's in every single assembly, they have to talk about diversity, inclusion and all the pronoun stuff, so these personal development sessions are very dangerous and I also know one young guy, I won't name him but he's a friend of mine and he is very similar to me, disagrees on lots of the fundamental issues around covid and he was very, very open with his opinions and that meant that he actually got to, he got referred to prevent and he got sent out of school and he had to sit his a levels at home being homeschooled, he got sent to an organization, a system called Prevent which is an anti-terror, I mean it's insanity, so the repercussions for young people to speak up are horrific and I know young people that have done it and it's great that we sort of establish this sort of community of younger people, I know lots of young people now but at the time when we didn't have that sort of network a lot is owed to those young young men and young women who turn around and said we aren't doing this within an education university as well because the pressure is immense, so it's not just a covid stuff, it's everything, if you go against the narrative you run the risk of isolation, both in the disciplinary sense but also in a friend sense and in a relationship sense, it's grim and that's why these days I even promote homeschooling is just avoiding it altogether because I mean I'm young but I wouldn't put my children through the things that I went through. Yeah well and you know we see the rise and rise of homeschooling which of course government is very concerned about because they lose control of those young minds. Absolutely. Something you said about college and effectively that they took the decision effectively jumping before being pushed in terms of enforcing yet more measures to deal with this than the other, just relating that to what you've described on the personal development sessions front. Yeah. I'm not sure if you would actually know specifically the answer to this, was the school directed to deal with those subjects in the way that you describe or do you get the feeling that that was their concoction to conflate as you say perfectly reasonable points of view which that with those that are regarded as more outlandish? I can't answer that however what I can say is that the person that's teaching me these things are not remotely qualified to talk on the subjects. They have no interest or degree or any background which suggests they should be capable of waxing lyrical about racism, LGBT stuff and then all the conspiracy theory nonsense. What I'm trying to reason that's important is because it would seem to me that something somewhere down from above down has told certain people within education to say these things and I think that from memory that the slide shows that are used they would have had to hit some certain bullet points like you must cover these topics because the person who has teach me these things was nothing more than like a TA or maybe they were hired by the college to manage like therapy and mental health issues and they were also being given the task of teaching everyone this. Then what I'm saying is they're not that they're just a spokesman they don't actually care about the topic so they're told from somewhere what to say and what to include so that would not surprise me but I can't say for sure but yeah that's why I'd say yeah TA being teaching assistant just you know on the way in which people react to these things I mean what what you've described there is a clear effort by authority figures those that do carry responsibility for essentially vulnerable people who are minors still at that point under the age of 18 and we see them instilling fear in their charges and I know that to get to sort of where you are now a lot of what you talk about is the younger generation self-censorship fear of speaking out just describe how that manifests. Well has I touched on like the consequences of speaking out are immense like just to further sort of my experience of speaking out on a university level I was at the university for three weeks as I mentioned earlier and that was because I simply said a man is a man and a woman is a woman I refuse to wear a pronoun badge I said because I'm whites doesn't make me a bad person you know all things which are totally outrageous and that led to death threats that led to literally no one would come up to me I mean I just noticed it I walked into uni and it's like I stank of something everyone would just sort of pull away and it was just like oh wow this guy you know it's a nazis terrible and it doesn't bother me but by that point I got pretty thick skinned over people people said not liking me very much but so I'd definitely say that the consequences of speaking out are you know well well they basically they're basically disrupt your entire youth you will not shake off that stigma that is around you once you say certain things that will never ever be forgotten it's a bit like when you go into year seven and you're the weird kid you're always going to be that weird kid and sadly that's just how school is that how is that how education is um so how does uh you mentioned um how does that kind of manifest itself how does that actually take place but by asking are you saying like what literally is within the education system to cause students to be to behave a certain way and to toe the light is that uh I think that that would be part of this I think I'd really mean within peer groups you know you're describing your experiences among those that were in effect shunning you because they had not the moral courage to speak to you civilly and be associated with the ideas that you were brave enough to put forward so how within those sort of groupings are people holding back and therefore I suppose as a follow-up secondary part you know how are you able to discern whether or not people do actually believe the things that they're saying so there are now now now I know now now I understand what we are saying and and I will always divide my generation into three sections you've got the crazy utterly extreme and I'm not going to call them left wing because I feel like that that's a little bit of a oh that's too nice no I'm going to totally deluded section of my generation who are within the universities at the moment and in college who are you know that the sort of people you see screaming that Donald Trump is a terrible racist bigot are the sort of ones that cry because they they've been misgendered that's one section and there are a lot of these people and then you've got the other opposite end which is people like myself and we really are in small numbers who are it think just in in in in we are a reaction to the opposite end which I just described to you we're like two different sides but of course you have that cliche silent majority in the middle but the silent majority really do believe what what myself and other young people believe but as I mentioned to you you've got the consequences of of speaking up however I'll use these street interviews I do as an example I go up to these guys I have no idea what they're going to believe they could be on that end or they're probably going to be in that silent majority and I'll ask them a really bold question I'll say something like so what do you think of all the LGBT nonsense or I don't say nonsense actually I say what do you think of all the LGBT stuff within school and they all go like this they're like oh well do you want to answer that do you want to answer that and I'll go by the way I think it's nonsense and they go oh yeah it's total nonsense isn't it so it's like they are I wish you've got to have that of what I hope I when I do my social media and I talk to young people and I try and promote this message of of standing and standing for truth what I hope that is also a representation of is that there are other young people out there because young people who haven't come in contact with bold other bold young people like myself and others won't have that courage to speak up so it's very easy to identify young people who are willing to who are willing to speak on behalf of truth because it only takes a little bit of courage on one person's part to be able to go right yeah I don't quite agree with this forever for that groupthink mentality to switch onto the other side and be like right yeah no we don't agree with this either and let's do something about it and I actually think that's beginning to happen and I mentioned earlier how I used to mock these these like hard kids who you know used to think they were all cool and then wore a mask but I think it's actually these hard kids that I'm actually beginning to find when I do my street interviews be the ones that are now willing to speak up it's becoming a little bit more edgy and cool if you like this makes me sound like an old person doesn't it but to try and to speak up against specifically the LGBT stuff and now that my generation is 18 or my age which specifically is 18 and they were 14 they're all really annoyed now they all went along with it because the government told them it was the right thing to do and the teachers told them it's the right thing to do but now they're putting themselves now they've woken up and gone hang on a minute I can't even buy a house I can't even go to the doctors you're telling this is a good idea I've I trusted you but you were wrong because look is this total nonsense and I was never affected so it's just taken now the reality and they're actually adults is coming into play they are hopefully well they say lightning doesn't strike twice let's pray it doesn't but but if it were hopefully my my generation would be the ones to be like right you're not doing this again so there is hope I try and be more hopeful than pessimistic so when you I mean obviously you know I've seen videos of you engaging with with young people out and about and that's fantastic that you are seeing in effect a sort of a bit of a sea change but I suppose what drops out of that is the obvious question which is what what next what what are these people going to do and how are you going to galvanize them in in such a fashion that the momentum will be generated so I think bravery bravery is really important because my my biggest concern is not that people agree with me or disagree with me or won't agree with me or will agree with me I really not bothered because I'm not ultimately that's important I'm one guy who's trying to campaign about some important issues but issues that are most importantly should be debated that's what I care about but my generation aren't even interested in that conversation that's what's really important if I turn up to go up to someone in my age group to try and have an articulate or or interesting or or long-lasting debate or conversation that's that's that takes effort you know that we my generation used to be the ones with passion used to be the ones with excitement and strength we were on the megaphones we were irritating in fact we were always on marches complaining and whatever and now we're just complacent and the biggest thing for me is the next step is to try and try and engage with the youth that's in a way that's going to get them to have an opinion and disagree with me I'd actually rather my generation disagree with me than agree with me because at least that way there's room for debate you know if I had to choose silence or disagree then disagree with me because then I know I've touched how like young people took me on but ultimately they don't take take me on in a way which is progressive or interesting they took me on in a way which is like you're you're just you know an idiot no why am I an idiot tell me why I'm an idiot tell me your facts give me your figures tell me why you disagree with me and let's have a conversation whereas you'll find now if you got some majority of young people and ask them for their opinion they just go oh I don't know you know so that's a really terrifying that's a really terrifying thing to happen because you're never going to progress as a country we're one day my generation will be leading this country and at the moment that's just that that's terrifying because we have not in a position at all to integrate properly with politics or leadership or anything like that party politics or you could go and talk about the world economic forum or do we like the UN or it doesn't matter we're not even interested in in local council politics and we're just interested in football um you know playing with our mates that's it you know getting a cool car and and I get being that being young that's a very important part of being young and not having to care about politics and all these things but my generation my age group they're soon going to be 20 21 22 and yet I feel like that's gonna stay consistent so that's really worrying so my part of my campaigning is to try and gather truth and debate and a little bit of conflict but you know polite conflict because hopefully that way we can go in the right direction of forming opinions full stop absolutely complacency I think is the word that comes out of there and that that actually for all generations I think is something that people will be identifying with as in effect it to so many it looks like whether it be the state or other entities if rather taking their foot off the gas and we can all relax a little bit but we know that not to be the case now you're very good on the the human interaction side of it and getting out there I think again for older generations it's very easy to make the assumption that younger people are so absorbed in particular by technology in particular perhaps by mobile telephones that their ability to sort of raise themselves out of this torper that they seem to be in is impossible do you see it like that specifically the sort of tech the draw of tech and the isolation through the use of it technology has always been this sort of you know it's been the cliche even when I was boy oh you know you're always at watching the tv my parents are really good what my parents did is they just provided me with with with good enough experiences just playing in the garden which meant I didn't want to be on technology but you know when people say to me oh well how do I get my kid off the phone I always say well provide them with something better than the phone that doesn't mean grand holidays and money and trips to places it just means you know creativity and fun playing with your child whatever you know so that's that's that's that bit in terms of technology and how that has driven my generation into complacency and allows them to hide essentially I mean my generation have a massive image problem so concerned about their image constantly worried about their makeup or their hair or you know there's nothing wrong with you know caring about the way you look and being presentable my generation take it to an extreme and interestingly the masks can be linked into this because the masks are allowed my generation to hide to their faces and that was very dangerous and my a lot of young girls used by the time they were 16 used to wear masks all over college campuses reason being is it gave them the ability to hide their face and and that ties in with the phones and it ties in with filters and snapchat and and makeup and Botox and obviously the media and all of this stuff which which has been talked about a lot but in terms of technology not only is technology dangerous for for ones kind of mental well-being and and being able to hide themselves it's a distraction tool and it's an implementation tool and on TikTok especially you you may remember in lockdown those awful adverts that were like look him in the eyes and tell him that you kept six feet or whatever it was that I mean I remember finding that I was in shock I was like oh my goodness and where I found that was not on some awake media or or it was on my TikTok now I don't use TikTok anymore because I find the whole thing horrific but when I did I realized that I look at that and I go that's horrific whereas other young people may look at that and go wow that's terrible I need to keep six feet so it's an implementation tool get young people hooked into technology there's one thing of saying you're not engaging with the world properly but there's another thing of saying it's used as a tool to control and manipulate our thoughts and how we approach life you know that it's clearly it's clearly worked everywhere you go blue to your phone and do you know what I'm a culprit of it I do it I find myself on my phone I find myself going down to put the bins out and then checking my pocket and I'm like oh my phone is not in my pocket and I'm thinking hang on a minute you know I've gone down to put the bins out for goodness sake so I'm a culprit of it and I'm someone who doesn't like technology very much and thinks very similar to what you've said so goodness knows what's happened to other young people yeah so sobering conclusion no in terms of your activism which I think is the way we would describe it I know you're at the minute you've got a leaflet you're handing out describing what you would list as the top five threats and actually related to technology I'm just going to read out in order you've said number one the great reset number two social credit system number three mainstream media number four net zero and number five medical fraud what sort of a response do you get from your peer group when you are talking about these things specifically so I devised this leaflet to ultimately reach the general public it was meant to be digestible wasn't meant to be crazy but it was meant to push it a little bit further than just talking about the government the saying what's beyond the government what may be influencing the government here's some examples of why I may think these things and I hand these leaflets out and the general public talking to the general public first may not be interested in taking it but the ones that do take it which is quite a lot compared to what it used to be when we used to try and speak to the you know people about this kind of stuff they are very receptive they do understand and my generation I'd say my generation maybe going a little bit older kind of early 20s are the most vocal when I speak then they are they are interested in saying well that's really interesting oh yeah I know who this person is because like Klaus Schwab is a figure doesn't matter what you think of him whether you think that he is a threat or not people should know who Klaus Schwab is you know he's an important individual whether we like it or not and it's young people who do know about Klaus Schwab I will say and most older generations don't from my experience of doing tube outreach and going on tubes for example you may have seen that's what I like to do to tubes a really good opportunity to to get people to listen to you whether they like it or not and it's young people that are quite receptive so I devised that leaflet specifically to reach the general public reach young people not makers look crazy and it be digestible and just get people thinking as long as people can think and just and as I said gauge an opinion disagree with me have conflict let's let's do it let's hash it out unless we do we're gonna get nowhere yeah absolutely and I would commend people to look at that leaflet which I will obviously post a link to in the notes from the interview no you in a way you've been quite damning and quite scathing about your generation and perfectly understand but I think you've articulated that very well I also think that a lot of older generations fall into the trap of assuming that the young don't really know what's going on and don't know anything do you have a sense that actually there are certain things that the young are more aware of than the generations that are older than them the climate change nonsense they are I mean I can't believe I cringe at the facts that when I was sat there refusing to wear a mask that I had pen on paper writing about climate change and it wasn't until a bit later on that I went hang on a minute climate changes needs to be questioned too there's a there's some really ridiculous things going on because the biggest thing is what a young people like to do in their 17 get a car it is so important for freedom and it is the ticket to finally breaking away from the responsibility of oh sorry for breaking away from your parents and then being responsible for them driving you everywhere but with you as LTN's insurance is utterly horrific I'm telling my insurance went from for a small little Persia went from 1,500 pounds without a black box up to after one year of no claims bonus up to 3,000 pounds with a black box that's what happened to my insurance and and and and that that's very very understood across young people so it gets them thinking it's like why are you trying to stop us from driving the requirements to drive are crazy so I think that one thing my generation are pretty motivated to push back against is the impact of all these net zero policies that's why where I think they're gonna really come the truth will come to light and the government may be a bit surprised by how my generation want to respond well that's really heartening and whilst we're on the sort of heartening side of things you wouldn't be doing any of this if you didn't think there was hope you're obviously very positive about things but for the sake of argument just paint your picture of the future how are you going to keep pushing on and and what will happen so when I was 14 and my teacher came up to me and they said he said to me he said Monty I really appreciate why you so opinionated but why are you doing this is it worth it I mean if you don't wear a mask what the hell is that gonna do and I said because I want to look at my son one day even if the world is in total despair and crumbling and we've lost and truth is is sensitive and that everything's miserable I have to look at my son in the face and say as a dad I tried I fought as hard as I could and I will live my life knowing that I couldn't have tried harder and I am uncomfortable at night if I feel I have not pushed on and attempted to fight for truth fight for reality question the narrative and garner more strength and support from other young people I feel uncomfortable I get restless I can't relax my life around the clock I wake up at 5 30 in the morning I go to the gym I do a day at work I come home I'm planning ideas I'm video editing I'm I'm reaching out to other young people I'm networking I'm going to events I'm maybe doing interviews you know I just I feel uncomfortable if I don't feel like I'm doing my absolute best to try to try and fight back so I believe that the landscape is looking pretty dismal I think they're gonna I think we're gonna go through a lot of awful things potentially worse than covid I think that surveillance is horrific I think that the fact we have a Labour government in power which is the perfect mouthpiece for private organizations that seem to be influencing politics globally I think that Stikhan is an evil man I'm watching London this great city be infested by authoritarianism and a miserable this topia but got to wake up got to have that blitz spirit if you like you've got to you know put a nice suit on get out speak to people and keep going on because if you don't what's the point we can't live it even if we feel that the situation is determined we still have the free will and power to push on and win we can do that and hopefully people will follow suit for the likes of you for the likes of myself maybe or for the likes of of Ramese who you've mentioned who had been fighting or who you've met who've been fighting against all the lockdown stuff for the likes of Alan Miller who we're together for the likes of Andrew Bridget figures out there that are fighting hard and still every day even as they are we are pushed down and pushed down and pushed down wake up and go no well I ain't doing this and fight back there is definitely hope but only if we kind of pull together in unity because as people we have power we are the majority inspiring words for people of all generations Monty it's been wonderful to talk to you know the audience will be clamoring to know where they can find out more about you and follow what it is you're doing so where should they go in order to learn more we can go to you sorry you can go to Twitter or X you'll find me Montgomery Tom's and then Instagram is Montgomery Tom's yet to have a website but maybe one is in the making but ultimately those two social medias are the best ones to go for and if you messaged me privately on either I'm always one to respond don't do the leave you you know blank for ages so please contact me if there's anything you want to work on any projects anything like that I always want to move forward even if you messaged me at five o'clock in the morning will probably be responding so so get in contact if there's any way if you want to download my leaflet that's something that I kind of push for because people are always asking me where can I get my leaflet if you go on either of my social medias there is a link tree in my bio click on the link tree at the top you can download a pdf and you can distribute it and get it printed and if you'd even like them printed and sent to your address that's something we can also work out so yeah that's my that's why you can find me excellent well we will certainly continue to follow your progress closely and I should just say to the audience if you are in a position to support UK column financially and you're not already doing so 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