On the first half Haywood Fennell invites guest Cruz Martinez to the show to give updates on Whittier St. Health Center and the services they are providing, vaccine information and availability, & more. On the second half, guest Barry Gaither joins the show to discuss the new exhibition "Violence Cancelled, Artists Speak", subsequent gatherings at art installations in the city, Barry's great contributions to black art & community, & more.
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(upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Hey, good afternoon and welcome to The Other Face Radio brought to you by Triad Veterans League in association with VN and Media Services. My name is Haywood Fennell. I'm a veteran and I'm really, really happy to be here today to talk to you about some very interesting health information. You know, we got a partner that's one of the best in the west, so on the east as well. Today we have our good friend, Mr. Cruz, and who else do we have, Mr. Cruz? - We have a toke who's the pediatric nurse here at Lydia Street Health Center. - Okay, how's everything going over there? What are your street health center? - Good, going guard, everything is doing guard. We are getting, we are ready for the winter and getting ready to vaccinate and keep providing the quality care that we feel for the community that we serve. - Okay, that's great, man, so that's the consistency. Folks that you'll find over there at Lydia Street and if you need some further information, 617-427-1000, 617-427-1000. You know, we're in a time in our lives, in our medical lives, and we have all these different kinds of plagues and situations that affect our community on a very large scale. And COVID-19 and the flu are what we want to talk about today. And anything else that the Lydia team thinks we should know about. I want to welcome you. I want to welcome you again to the other page radio, you know, brought to you by Triad Veterans League. We've been around for quite some time. We've been so fortunate and blessed to be friends with the Lydia Street Community Health Center when the president all the way down to the security on the front door, they're all good. So what are we talking about today? What's on the top of our list that Lydia's involved in that our community needs to know about? - What I think our community should know about in regards to like vaccination and immunizations is that it's necessary, preventative care for your children and for your family. A lot of people have a fair base mentality pertaining to new vaccines and then also pertaining to specifically the COVID-19 vaccine. It's important that people understand that this will be prevention of them causing severe sickness in their family and for their children. - Okay. You know, it's really great to be able to have you here to talk about, you know, some stuff around the vaccine because there's a lot of people still reluctant to get their vaccine and should they be or shouldn't they be? What do you think? - I think people should always be reluctant in regards to care. They should always want to be informed as best as possible and knowledgeable about what any practice or any procedure or any vaccination. I think they should be involved in their care with their providers. We always want to formulate a partnership. It's not just dictating what they should do. We do recommend that they give the vaccines again, given our patient population and a minority-based population, undeserved communities in general. You think of all the chronic illnesses that we have and disorders and you think of, if particularly you're not affected by it, you don't think of the general population of people that you can't be exposed to. And so I have COVID around a family member and they have diabetes, they have heart conditions, they have anything that can cause them like their health to be compromised. I may not have any symptoms, but if they haven't got vaccinated, then their experience may be far worse. - Folks on hope. (indistinct) Folks, I'm hoping you take it in the sand because this is some very needed information that's being provided to you by Whittier Street Community Health Center. No, I gotta go up there and get vaccinated again. And I'm just grateful that your organization is there and keeping us aware of what is going on. You know, I spoke to a friend this morning and she just got over about COVID-19. And my son, who lives in New York, he's had it three times. You know, so it's not an easy thing to just regard and don't wanna get yourself, you know, get your inoculation, get your shot. You know, this is some stuff that is still not totally fixed in terms of how do we deal with it and people don't have to worry themselves. You know, we wanna ask you why wouldn't you get it? It's protection. And Whittier has it. You can come in anytime you want to duck. - To advocate on behalf of our population, there is a lot of concern in regards to trust. Given the climate of this country and then given the events that unfolded with like PG project and so many different experiences where they're aware that, hey, they weren't upheld by the system of healthcare. So the concern is always gonna be there, but I think it's best to again, become knowledgeable about, well, is just beneficial to me. And then if you have a healthcare provider that you actually trust and ensuring that you understand that they wouldn't recommend something they being harmful to you. - Yeah, but, you know. - So again, that partnership and ensuring that you're around people who you care for, you're being served by healthcare providers that you trust and you have a good relationship with. And then also reading the material yourself, the information is available on the CDC website. And then also when you visit with your provider, even if you're not sure and certain about what you want. It's not just about COVID, but it's about almost any vaccination that has to do with, that appears new to the general public they have concern with. And that's the whole purpose of it is preventative care. I present you from having-- - Let me interrupt you. - No, sure. - Let me interrupt you. Because there is no reasons why people should not know this information that you're sharing. But then again, there are reasons why they don't know. And that's why you're here today because a lot of the so-called commercial stations are not as explicit as you're being. For instance, you mentioned a website that a person could go to to get the information, not only about COVID, but about other things that they might be exposed to. And a lot of people just watch sports or get a quick info from the department of public health, but they don't get it. Like you just said, say, look, here's a site that you can go to and get the information that you need. And that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to put it out there through you guys so people can know how to better take care of themselves. That's very important. No, can we talk with anything about the flu? - Well, the flu, it's very interesting. In our experience, people are more susceptible, to get in the flu vaccine than they are the COVID vaccine. So again, the same things. You want to ensure that you're being protected. You're more likely to get the flu than you are COVID, to be honest, it's just what happens that you probably would take it as like, oh, I'm feeling under the weather, not feeling good, probably February for a couple of days, and then you probably wouldn't get tested for it, per se. Unless you actually get tested and diagnosed at your healthcare providers, you can probably have the flu and just not know. - What about our children? - About what? - What about the children? - For children, same thing. And especially because they're so prone to so many viruses and so forth. It'll be the same thing. Family might just feel like, oh, my child's not feeling well. They could have the flu, but they don't bring them to the healthcare provider and then get tested and diagnosed as such. But the flu actually goes around more frequently than COVID. - Okay, we're going to take a little break, please. - It's very important to have your child vaccinated for both. Another vaccine that people are kind of wary about would be HPV, which is imperative because unfortunately there's so many different strains of it, which is human papilloma virus. We now have immunization for it and we give it to children as young as 11. And unfortunately, because there's not a lot of information available to people, they're like, oh, I don't want my child to get it. However, the prevention of it is like to prevent cancer, cervical cancer and so many illnesses that they can develop in the future with continued exposure to HPV to so many children and adults who have it. - We're going to take a little break right now. This is the other page of radio. I'll guess some of the staff members over there have a place that's doing a fantastic job trying to keep our community healthy, really to see community health center of their number, 617-427-1000. We'll be right back, be right back. - Are you a veteran or do you know a veteran who is struggling with housing due to COVID-19? Veteran Zinc can help provide support services, including assistance with rent deposits, utilities, as well as emergency housing, including hotel stays to eligible struggling veterans. If you or someone you know is in need of services, please call 1-800-482-2565 or go online to www.veteransinc.org. - Put a frog in boiling water and it'll jump right out, but put a frog in cool water and slowly heat it up. That frog will boil. As veterans, we tell ourselves the lie that we can handle anything. We let the water boil. You are not a frog. If you or a veteran you know needs support, don't wait. Reach out. Find resources at va.gov/reach. That's va.gov/reach. Brought to you by the United States Department of Veterans Affairs and the Ad Council. - We want to just remind everybody that this is the other page, radio, and we want to make sure that not just veterans, but our listeners, which is very broad, get information that's dealing with health issues because there's so much going on around health and fatalities and people passing from COVID-19, kind of takes precedent seemingly over what news is reported. But we want to make sure that we get information on a broader scale to you and our sources of information on medical situations. It's really a sweet community health and we're really pleased and honored to have other staff, some staff members come in and talk a little bit about what's going on in the world of health. I'm Mr. Crews. It's Mr. Crews here. - Yeah, I take care. - Okay, Mr. Crews, how you been? - Good, thank you so much. - Other than busy. - Yeah, it's very busy. Are we still and inviting the camp to everyone that comes to our doors and very busy and we do it with grades and we do it with a dignity to our whoever needs. - Are you doing providing vaccines now? - Oh, yes, we absolutely ask that. - Yeah, all right. - Which box is accessible? - What times couldn't they come over? The people from the community that are not members of your clientele list? - So we're not going to flu and COVID clinics. We prefer them to come for general care. And then they would get the immunizations that they need and all the preventative treatment that they need. That would be included in the vaccines as well. They can just edge unemployment. We serve, again, we serve the community. So we serve a significant portion of immigrants or refugees, underserved populations. We're here for homeless. We're here for previously incarcerated individuals. We're here whether you have insurance or you don't have insurance. We just want to do our part in public health and make sure that we're trying to keep our community well. - Okay, okay. Can you tell me anything, Mr. Cruz, about the situation with HIV? - I'll put down the terms with people coming in. - So we do have an AIDS department ID. - We have an infectious disease specialty department which helps serve our HIV population. And we have seen an increase in African Americans and Hispanic community. In regards to HIV levels heightened, we're hoping that with consistent treatment and then well, we're willing to treat them, but we also want to do preventative care for encouraging everybody to make sure that you're using protection. It is important to use condoms. If you're going to have multiple partner, you want to make sure that you get tested and screened frequently. If you have more than one partner, you should do so twice a year at least with also using protection. That's important. A lot of people think that if I use birth control and I'm preventing a birth or pregnancy, however, you need to ensure that you're using condoms because rapidly, HPV, HIV, and has PIs that want to be inclined? - Did you see on the incline? Not the decline, the incline, right? - No, it's significantly heightened since 2020, perhaps because everyone was within the house, but since 2020, it has significantly increased a much adolescents as well. Very, I can't count how many times I'm treating someone for chlamydia. - Mm-hmm. - Monorrhea and syphilis. It's very important that people are using condoms because it's so bad that we now have to lengthen the treatment. It used to be just three days for antibiotics just now at the point of seven days and sometimes recommended 10. Because the strains are getting so resistant because, again, people are just not being treated and then equally, they're not getting preventative care. So it's very important that you see your healthcare provider. A lot of people think, oh, I'll wait 'til I have symptoms. You may not have symptoms and have some of these illnesses. So it's important that you have a continuity of care with your provider. - I'm so glad that I asked you that question because, you know, I still don't hear enough information about the incline. Now, I read something or I saw something about a decline in terms of substance abuse use. You know, supposed to have gone down. But now you're telling me that a component that can involve you getting HIV, which is, you know, needles, you know? - Well, of course you can contract HIV via sexual contact. You can also do it from blood to blood. - Right, but I'm just saying that there is a decline. You know, it's not just sexual. You know, it's still using dirty works, you know? - Well, yes, significantly. But it wouldn't be, I'm not sure what you read, but I would refer back to the CDC in regards to but substance use is still, it's very prevalent and high. I don't think it's had even a, there's been no decline in regards to substance use. And the concern would be, even if the person, let's say we provided clean needles and they didn't utilize that, then there's also the height and risk activity that would put them at a risk of a lot of illnesses and et cetera. - Yeah, I'm just so glad that you guys are here today to talk about this particular situation. Not being discussed means that people need to know more about it, what's going on with it. And I don't see a lot of visuals about this situation being on the increase and our community needs to know that. They need to be educated more, you know? And that's all we hear at the other page are grateful to have this alliance with Woodyard Street to talk about what we're talking about today. We're not trying to take anybody's job, we're just trying to do a better job of informing our people about their health situation because they don't know, they don't know. You know, so I'm so glad that you came today to talk today about this particular group of services that you're working with. Because, you know, I know Woodyard a long time and I know he'd have to do much more than what we're talking about today. And so folks, if you really want to know more, 617, what is the rest of the number, everybody? - We're in two to five and one thousand. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah, I'm so glad that you were able to come in today and talk about what's going on. - Thank you. - Mr. Ben, like a short notice, but Mr. Cruz, we want to thank you for being able to get to us today. We'll continue to be able to get what we need from you through your work. We need it. And thank you for taking care about veterans as well. We know you have a veterans component over there and we want our veterans to know that they don't have to be saying that they're not veterans and you go to a non- veterans situation and just place other people that can't go to the VA. But they can. And because of advocacy about the president and her understanding that we need our place, you have a place to know for our veterans. We want to thank you so much for coming in today and sharing the information from Williams Street. We ask that you can continue to do that. And once again, we're looking forward to talking to you for the next time. Thank you so very much. - Thank you so much for having us. - All right, God bless you. Thank you. - Thank you. - Thank you. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) Back again folks, this is the other page radio. My name is Hailey from now and then we just had a briefing on some health situation information. From Williams Street Community Health Center, we want to thank those folks for taking the time to come in and talk about COVID, talk about flu sites, talk about various screenings and a little bit of our HRVAs because as a young lady said, it's on an incline, not a decline and we gotta be real careful about how we live our lives. We'll be talking to our next guest when they get in but right now, we wanna. - The Oscar Michonne Family Theater Program Company welcomes those seeking to learn about theater and performance. We offer classes that bring out your talent and improve it. Wanna get involved in theater production, acting or singing? Then you can visit our website at theomtc.com. That's T-H-E-O-M-T-C.com. (upbeat music) - We got a lot of things going on folks. We'll invite you to the liquid center on the, this coming Saturday, we're gonna be at the DeWitt Center for our audition, Open Audition starts at 12 p.m. for the Oscar Michonne Family Theater Program Company. We will be auditioning for singers, for open mic speakers, dancers, people that wanna act, people that wanna learn, this Saturday, we're gonna be there. And we're gonna be talking about a production called The Legacy of the Harlem Renaissance. A continuum of the Oscar Michonne Family Theater Program's performances that deal with one of the most culturally significant times in American history, not black history, American history, for further information, six, eight, five, seven, two, zero, four, five, three, one, two, that's for you. Oh, that's this Saturday, this Saturday at 12 30, this Saturday at 12 30, the DeWitt Center in Roxbury near Charlotte and Robles Street. I believe it's 32 DeWitt Drive. I believe it's 32 DeWitt Drive. Okay, we are getting ready to bring a man on this program that we're really honored to have him here. You know, he's done so much work around artistic endeavors to further and better define ourselves as the people of dignity and greatness. We have Edmond Barry Gator, oh, you know him, I know him, I'm grateful that he's here today to talk about another one of his projects. He does so much in this community folks, I gotta tell you. He's like, you know, he's like a pillow. I'm not talking about like a pillow that you sleep on, I'm talking about a pillow that holds up things. That's how strong he is in this community. Well respected, he's done a lot for us and we're just happy to have him here today. Barry Gator, my friend, I bury all you. - Hi, I'm honored to be here with you, HeyWitt. - Okay, that's good to hear, Barry. I'm gonna be with you in about another minute, okay? - That's fine. - Good. - Okay, Barry, we're not gonna even do anything but directly talk to you and say, welcome to the other page radio, God bless you. How you been, my friend? - I've been busy trying to get back to the middle of things. - Okay, Barry, I can help you do that. I can help you do that, Barry. Tell me what you're trying to get the middle of. - Well, right now we've just opened a new exhibition, which is our first totally new exhibition in some while. The exhibition is titled Violence Cancelled, Artists Speak, and it's an exhibition which features eight artists commenting on the problem of intra-community violence, but more important than that, suggesting solutions that move us forward. And these solutions mainly have to do with something we all know, which is we need to know ourselves better, to know the heritage on which we stand and the empowerment of the legacies that are ours, and with those we would start to recover ourselves from the brutalization that has been the colonial and slavery eras, and that have predisposed many of our urban communities to be much less kind to each other than we ought to be. - Barry, you know, I'm listening to you talk, and I remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you did an exhibit on violence some time ago. Is that right? - Yes, it's a theme that has been recurrent because we still have not really learned from how to move ourselves towards wholeness, has the community. - That's right, Barry. That's right, and I just wanna, you know, you said a new exhibition. - Yes, the exhibition is a new exhibition featuring Hakeem Raquib, genetic thinker, Rob Problack Gibbs, Paul Goodnight, Robert Stull, Lawrence Pierce, Shea Justice, and Lemmerchy Frasier. So it's a rich cross-section of fine artists. - Oh, Barry, hold up, man. You can't say that, you think people could digest those joints that quickly? - And here's what each has done. Each has two works in the exhibition. One work is the question, why are we having this problem? And the second work is the answer. This is the direction we must go. So I like to think of the exhibition as an interrogative experience, and I'd love as many people to come and engage it as possible. - Okay, now let me stop you, Barry. Let me just stop you. Folks, we have a man here, Edmund Barry Gator's. There's no joke. He has been able to organize some figures in the arts. Each one in their own right stands working on returning us to the forgotten dignity. All good night, Lemmerchy Frasier. - You might say, "These are artists who return us to ourselves." - Right. - That's what I'm thinking about. I mean, you know that-- - Yes, of course. - You're hitting us off with some people that have, I mean, Lawrence Pierce Gibbs. I know him from he was a kid. - Yes, and his murals are powerfully present in the community. - I know his family, I know him, and I'm so happy that he's involved in this major work. This was a major exhibit. What is the coming up, Barry? - The exhibit opened a week ago and will be in place throughout the rest of this calendar year and will be available for anyone to visit on Friday, Saturdays, and Sundays of every weekend from now to the end of the year. - Okay. And that's that, the museum. - Yes. - Okay. - I'm specifically also eager to make known an additional dimension to the exhibition that I wanted to share information about today. - Okay. - As part of the exhibition, we're sponsoring a series of public conversations. These are conversations that happen around three artworks that are in the Roxbury community. And the basic format is for each gathering around one of these works, we will provide two people who will speak about the importance of the work and about its qualities. We will then have a short Q&A and anyone who has come to participate can be active in that followed by a short reception at a nearby partner institution. This is easiest illustrated by given example of the first one. The first one of these public conversations is Saturday upcoming. And the conversation will take place at the sculpture titled The Judge by Vusamusi Maduna. This is the monumental African mask that is right at the corner of Warren Street and Harrison. And everyone is invited to come to that site at one o'clock on Saturday. - Say, "Blowing Street and how should it happen?" - Yes, it's in that small plaza in front of Roxbury District Court. - Oh, it's up to street from Warren. - Yes, going towards the boys and girls. - Right, right, it's right there across from the boys and girls club. When you drive in, it's at the right. - Yes. - Okay, so we wanna make sure the people go to the right place because if they'd be standing down on the Warren and Harrison Avenue, it'd be at the firehouse. - Well, they're at the firehouse, Barry. - Okay. - Let's put them in the courthouse. Were they supposed to be? - Yes, they should be at the courthouse plaza. - At the courthouse, right, right. - Near where the library used to be before it moved around the block. - We're there now, would you? - Okay. - We're there now, would you? - This is the other page radio I brought to you by Triad Veterans League, I'll guess today. It's a man that really has done a lot for our community culturally, artistically, whatever he can do. He's here to talk to you about this upcoming event on the 26th of this month. - Two African scholars will talk about that piece, the mask and African traditions of justice. - Okay, all right. And that discussion, as I said, is open to anybody. The discussion should run from one until maybe just after 1.30, when there will be a question and answer session. And at the end of that, we'll all stroll over to the Boys and Girls Club, have some hot cider and some fruit and conclude our time together. - Okay. - So why do this? This program is designed to help us learn to appreciate the treasures that are in our community. - You know, Barry, I want to interrupt you because I think it's great, I think it's great to this project to be implemented. Myself, personally, I have looked at that statue right there by the courthouse and I said, wow, this is a beautiful statue. But today, you're telling me that it's a mask? - Yes. - Okay. - It's a mask, it has its hints from specific Western Central African traditions. And it is meant to help remind us that we are always in the judgment of our ancestors. It also reminds us that when we need to make judgments, sometimes we need the cover of a mask. Sometimes the truth is difficult. - Yes, Barry, you know, and that mask shows that sometimes justice is covered. - Yes. - We'll really get to see justice. Sometimes justice wears the mask because on its face, it may be too difficult for us to digest. - Right. - Sometimes it involves those who are so close to us that we need a transition between what in the South used to be called the battle between justice and mercy. I remember in South Carolina, we had a church song that was sung acapella and the old people used to sing it was all around my bed, justice trying to cut me down, mercy pleaded for me. And it was around the idea of recognizing that we all come only in imperfection and we all need understanding and mercy and community to become whole. And the mask has a role to play in that. So that will be a piece of this discussion. - Okay, we're gonna take a little break right now. We'll be right back with our good friend, E. Barry Gaetha. Are you a veteran or do you know a veteran who is struggling with housing due to COVID-19? Veterans Inc can help provide support services, including assistance with rent, deposits, utilities, as well as emergency housing, including hotel stays to eligible struggling veterans. If you or someone you know is in need of services, please call 1-800-482-2565 or go online to www.vetransinc.org. Folks, I just wanna speak on behalf of the veterans in our community and their families that Triad Veterans League is working very hard to get folks to understand that you don't have to be a veteran to support veterans' causes. One of the most difficult things that I find is just that. We separate ourselves because we haven't served in the United States military. But those that have served have come across some really, really traumatic times in terms of getting housing, getting services and getting people to understand the importance of raising your hand to give your life to a country to fight for the freedom for other places and other peoples and don't have that when you return to your own country. Triad Veterans League is working on that and we are going to do something and going to call on you to be a part of this strategy to better inform, to better build the respect and the dignity that our veterans, particularly African-American veterans, deserve, but have not received, have not received. So what I'm gonna start doing very soon is I'm gonna start providing phone numbers so that you can call these officials yourself if you have a problem getting something solved. If you can't get housing, we've seen buildings that are empty and veterans deserve to have those houses. There should be no controversy at all. Again, try at Veterans League, you'll be hearing from us and I'm gonna provide you some phone numbers. Because I'm working for, and with some other veterans, we'll volunteer to work with Triad Veterans League. And we understand that veterans are an overlooked and underused community resource. And while we have this guest here, Barry Gates, and we wanna thank you, Barry, for helping our Veterans Develop Theater Program with the uses of your facility on Walnut Avenue. Thank you, and that goes back a long time. We've always supported us and we appreciate you, Barry. - Thank you. - Barry Gates has said again today to give us some more dates and times for this magnificent thought about violence and how we can better address it through the arts. Barry? - Yes, let me mention the other two gatherings that are further along on November 9th, which is also a Saturday at 1 p.m. We will have a gathering for a conversation at a sculpture titled "The Value of a Life" by Fern Cunningham Terry, which is in the Jeep Jones Park. If you were in Jeep Jones Park coming up the hill towards Elliott Square, you'd find this sculpture in the edge of the park, not far from the Templeton School. And in this piece, there is a boy lifting a phoenix that's taking flight, and adjacent to him is a young woman, perhaps his sister. And in front of them are an array of books. Each book is open and readable and has a quote from some parrot, our brother, our sister, who has lost someone to violence. And the piece is really a meditation on the value of life and a calling for us to anchor ourselves again in the value of being a community and not being seduced by wayward violence, which is so amok. So that piece is going to be discussed on the 26th, I'm sorry, on the 9th of November. - Right. - And in addition to a couple of scholars, we'll invite for that. There'll also be a presence of some members of Fern's family. Then on November 23rd, we have a final gathering for a discussion of father and son reading. The major work by John Wilson at Roxbury Community College outside the arts building. And that will be an opportunity to affirm how important it is to cultivate, especially relationships that are supportive between young men and their children between uncles and aunts and all of the family who helped to raise children. The people who make up that village in the proverbial, it takes the village to raise a child. So these three events are all designed, as I was noting, to help us appreciate better the treasures, artistic treasures, creative treasures that are in our community, to make these works better known and to claim them as our own. - All right. - We have visitors who come from half around the world to look up things about us. And we walk past them every day and never take a moment to look at them and think about what they mean. So we're trying to address that as much as we can and to make our community the welcoming place it should be for the creative talents that reside in it. And just as we need to be welcoming and uplifting the musical talents and dance talents that Haywood has been so involved in bringing forward over decades now, we also need to do the same with the visual arts and we need people to come out and claim this as their own and support it. - I mean, you know, like Barry, I can't agree with you more because I know these some of the people, most of them that you named or have seen them and their dedication to their art, to their craft to bring about the significance of who we are, and art is who we are. When I go through Rob Gibbs's website, he's telling me about the mural project. And then I remember Bernice and Paul going over to the 791 Tremont Street. - Exactly. - And some of the things that they're doing and seeing a phrase here on a way to rush you. - Mr. Lewis, what are the greatest daughters of Roxbury in the 20th century? Was fond of saying art is the guts of the people. - Yes. - And by that, she meant the very essence, the thing that is so intimate and sustaining. For peoplehood, art is that. - Let me just say something because, you know, I was the chairman of the General Ebert O. Gorgene statue. - Yes. - Project when that work was completed and unveiled. And Frank Cunningham, that's so hard. You know, she headed that team. - Yes. - And I've seen her work in other places, but that work, we should really, really appreciate it. - I'm looking forward to doing a similar kind of event for that work in 2025. - Right. They would let us know because our mobilizers, the veterans, to come out, you know, because right now we trying to make sure that veterans don't become overlooked and underused. That tattoo that Frank Cunningham, Barry, Barry, hey, look, come on now. - Yes. - Listen, I was with you that Sunday, when they dedicated the Harriet Tubman, that hot heat and furnace there. And I was there, and I was there when you spoke. - Yes, Fern, the magnificent presence in this community. And I gave her her first job after she graduated BU in 1970. - Okay. - Teaching hard at the Elma Lewis School. So although in New York, she made Boston her home, and she gave her heart and soul to Boston. And she's got work around that you ought to know at all. She has work in the cemetery. She has work over in Grove Hall. - Mada Pan. - Very major work with the Harriet Tubman Park. Yes, she made her mark here. - And so folks, what are we talking here? We're talking about the spirit and never dies. The artists are still there. And these works are of such greatness that they can inspire the young people that you have impact on. Your nieces and nephews, I mean, they need to know that there are really important things out here done by people like themselves, and that those things are honored and praised in their community, as well as beyond. - Bear, give us those dates again, please. - Well, the date for the first of the public conversations, the ones surrounding the judge, is this Saturday, October 13th at 1 p.m. The next of the conversations is on Saturday, November 9th at 1 p.m. in Jeep Jones Park, the value of a life by Fern Cunningham Terry. And the last is Saturday, November 23rd at 1 p.m. at RCC, and is centered around John Wilson's father and son reading. - Oh, that's a beautiful one there, boy, I love that one. Oh, yeah, I love that one, man. And I'm so happy to say that I remember seeing Mr. Wilson at the museum, and I'm happy to say that of these works that I have named, all of them stand up in the world of art internationally. None of these are minor works that fall shy of the mark. Each is in its own way a very memorable and important work that you should know and claim as part of your own heritage and legacy. - That's right, that's right. But folks, let me just interrupt Barry. I'm sure he won't mind, because I gotta just let you know something. We got voting coming up, and people, our ancestors, fought and died for this country, and other people fought and died to keep us from voting. We have an opportunity to use our votes the right way, to change the directions of our manifest destiny. Vote, don't be afraid. The fear is over. We are here now. Just like this exhibits that Barry is talking about that's coming up in our city and our community, it's gonna touch a lot of people. It'll touch even more people if they understand that we can win. We will win when you vote. Barry Gates, it was our guest today. We wanna thank you Barry. - Thank you. - Let me underscore your message, because the message you just gave is crucial. - Yes, yes, we have to do that. We'll be back, we'll see you Saturday, Barry. - All right. - Roxbury Court, right near the Boys and Girls Club. - Yes. - Thank you so much. - Thank you. - Thanks, everybody. God bless you. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music)