[Music] Welcome to Drinking Bros. Presented by GhostBed.com Sit back, relax, and grab a fucking drink. Yeah, welcome to Drinking Bros. Kids. Getting through the week, aren't we? It's a big boy Wednesday show today. It's gonna get weird. There's no other way around it today. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say that in front of the guests, but it's gonna get weird today. I look at you and I think... Caveman. Yeah. He's a fucking caveman. Is that on the right path? I think that's a fair assessment caveman. But I'm caveman with like style, I like to say. Caveman with stuff. Yeah. You do. You look kind of Christ-like. I did. I trimmed up the beard today. You know, just a little bit of deodorant, not too much. Yeah. Do you have a rain camera on the outside of your cave? No, nothing yet, nothing yet. Not yet. Eventually, once I get enough sponsors, I'll throw a rain cam up on there and juice it up right. Sure. And I want you to tell everybody your name here. So my name is Donnie Dust. Yep. And the reason why I'm asking you to say it is because it sounds like a porn star name, and none of this episode sounds real so far. Pretty much. I mean, I did some light stuff on the side, back in like the 80s. So does Sylvester Stallone not tell you how it starts. That's it. You ever seen Stallone's porn? I have it, I have it. I mean, want to see his cock real quick? Yeah, I mean, we're becoming friends. We're not going to drink it, bro, dude. Bob, show that cock. Show Stallone's cock from the 70s there, just so he knows what show he's on. It was Softcore. It was. But they did show his dog. His show does ding dong him. Yeah. He's got a... Well, I... It's hard to tell, Bob, because the first picture we saw years ago was like, not that great of a hog. And then I saw another one, and I was like, all right, decent size hog here. He's a grower. He's a grower. Look at that. Hey, hey, hey, I'm a grower. I mean, a lot of that you got to chop through, right? Yeah, I mean, it was in '70s though. That's impressive. I'm not going to lie. I mean... '70s Bush. The Bush. Yeah, Bush. Absolutely the Bush. Yeah, I get like that. Usually when we're at a loincloth, I got to kind of trim it down a little bit, but... Do you wear a loincloth? Absolutely. For special occasions and just Bush not. What's a special occasion it wants? Yeah, like a special... Well, you know, I mean, like if it's, you know, someone's birthday, yeah, you know, those sort of special occasions, but you know, I don't wear it to like parent teacher conferences or anything to that. I think that'd be a pretty big flex. Just to have a nut hanging out. I know. My son did what? Oh, my eyes are up here, man. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Could you fucking get off my ball, lady? Yeah, I mean, it's case by case, but most of the time I usually just kind of keep it for special occasions. So you have kids and you also... Do you live in the cave with the kids? No, so I have two male offspring. It's a weird way to see that. Well, I mean, you breed well. The weirdest possible way to see that. Sure. No, so like, you know, I'm a dad half the time and then the other time I'm kind of just out in the bush, not a Stallone bush, but like the natural bush. Yeah. So it kind of works out where, you know, you'll hunt your fish living in caves, living in shelters. And so, you know, sometimes my girlfriend goes with me, which was one of the reasons why it was single for so many years because I was in a cave. The cave lifestyle isn't for everyone. No, it's definitely not for everyone. It's, I mean, there's a slight group that are interested in that sort of thing. Yeah. The Taliban, dude. Yeah. The fuck are you talking about? I mean, what do we actually live in a cave? I feel like we're joking right now. Are we joking? You don't, do you actually live in a cave? No, you live in a fucking cave. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there was large numbers of days and months where I lived in caves, but, you know, after a certain, you know, period of time I had to kind of move out of the cave, join the normal world, find a girlfriend, but, you know, I give her credit because even when I actually was living in this lady's basement, I didn't even have a bed. I just slept on like animal hides in a wool blanket. It was pretty romantic. I'm not going to lie. It was an awkward conversation up front. Like, I'm going to welcome you inside. Well, what you're about to see is maybe some like p-diddy shit that's going on right now. Really? I mean, it's weird. It's caribou underage? No, you know, it's the caribou underage? Caribou is definitely a smaller kill, but yeah, either way. Four-year-old caribou. Two-year-old probably. What's the, what's the role on that? If you bang a four-year-old caribou, is that underage? It's just, I think it's a don't-ask don't sort of tell sort of thing. But aren't dog years like seven years? So what's a caribou? Well, I feel it'd be longer. Not really. So the dog is, after the first year is more like 16, and then after the second year, it's like 21, and then it progresses depending on the breed after that. Okay. It's kind of a biological age. Gotcha, gotcha. I'm a little down on my caribou facts, but it was a age, no worries. Okay. I'm just getting that out of the way here. People are going down left and right in Hollywood. I don't want you going down right now. But in all sincerity, you are considered, as the worldwide experts in remote, primitive survival. And why did you even start that? Why did you even figure that out? Yeah, I mean, it was kind of one of those experiments to see how hard you can make life. You know, with the military background and saying, all right, I want to kind of live remotely in the bush. How hard can I make it? More importantly, how did our ancient ancestors do it? And they did it with stone tools, resources from the land, hunting, fishing, foraging, gathering. And that's not even like a steel knife or an axe. It's stone tools, drinking out of skulls, and bowls made from wood. And you know, maybe you eat today. You don't eat for the next three days. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I don't mind drinking out of half a monkey skull. Or like, so one of our, we have a bunch of weird stuff that happens if any of us dies. Okay. If Jared dies, we get his skull to drink out of. Yeah, we split it. Yeah, I like it. We each get half of it and then we split it. And well, I think we should share our custody and keep the skull intact so we can use it. You wouldn't even let me have some of your dried mangoes from Jake Steak. No, you were pulling them out of the wrong fucking box. That was his box. There's 80 bags in there. Yeah, but what are your communists? You don't just get to pick fucking whatever you want. If they're all the same, yes, you do. Then you can swap it up. Once he moves in from one box to the other, then it's separate but equal. Right. I guess, separate but equal. But that's what I felt. Yeah, I felt like I was Rosa Parks and that's it. And it was like back at the bus, loser. I almost slapped you. You did. So it's close. You did, yeah. And I said, nah, just like Rosa. Yeah, that's famous. I would get over it. Famous quote. Very famous quote by Rosa. But I really want to break this down. Yeah. What was the day that made you say, all right, I want to go back and be a fucking caveman. I'm tired of this world. Yeah, it's probably right around like 2008, 2009. I was living, unfortunately, in Southern California. And I just, I spent some time out in the bush and I started doing long walks, like from the Salton Sea up to Mammoth and really living in the deserts. And then at that time, I was like, all right, I'm carrying too much stuff. I got too many knives and too many resources. Let's just start at square one. Let's start with nothing and just build everything from there. But usually everybody has a breaking point in life of either your job or your work or shit you saw or shit you did. You're being in the military for 12 years to do it. Yeah. Yeah, what was that it for you? Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, getting out of the military that was kind of faced with the options of like working like a normal job, doing some government contracts. And I just didn't kind of want to relive that life that I left. So I just wanted to start fresh, start new and that primitive skills, stone age sort of thing. I mean, it's helped out. I mean, I've met people like Cardi B to bring her out in the bush and other worked on movie sets because of this kind of unique sort of skill set. It's like a technical consultant and whatnot. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of that living proof. Like you can still do what you want to do if you truly enjoy it and love it. And how did Cardi B get involved in living in the bush? Because she doesn't have one. No, no, she's got a wop though. She's got a wop. She's got a wop now. That's a wop, but then a bush, yeah, shaped up. One leads to the other. It's at a certain point in your life. Sure. But how does Cardi B get a hold of you? Like does she read your book or watch your line or something? No, her team kind of reached out and said Cardi has a show where she likes to try new things and new experiences and she'd love for you to bring her out into the bush and kind of show her how to shoot a bow and process water and eat some, you know, turtle and rabbit jerky, build a shelter. So I flew out to California and before you know it, there was a big shoot going on and I kind of wouldn't and showed her all these kind of unique skills, chased off some wolves that were brought on set to be wild wolves, but it's pretty awesome. So they weren't real? No, I mean, they were like tamed kind of like, not like circus wolves, but-- Dropped up. Yeah, I drugged up wolves. Yeah, I drugged up wolves. There was a leash on them. You couldn't really see it, but it was good. What kind of drugs, though, fentanyl? No, what they'll do is so like, if you're doing some of an alligator, for example, what they'll do is they'll feed them a shit ton of food. So they're real lazy and sleepy and so you can be around them and they're not interested in humans. And they have my injections doctor head with propofol. Yes, go on. But some of the animals, it's sedative. So lions, for example, they use sedatives. Yeah. And they'll tell you. It's probably, what is it? Tramidol or something that they use on animals as well. I think there's one of the like, opiates. Trank them up. It won't be a tramp. But they'll give you a time. They'll say, hey, you got three hours to shoot this. Or that's it. The animal's going to wake up and game over. Yeah, you're dead. I never heard of this show, but it seems like it would kind of be funny to watch because it's called Cardi Tries. Cardi Tries. The name of the show. And some of them are just stupid shit, like basketball, ballet, sushi, whatever the fuck. One of them is stunt driving. I would like to watch Cardi B try to stunt drive because that'd be funny as shit. And then nursery school, like around children. Yeah, but she doesn't raise those kids. Her grandma does. Probably. No, for real. Have you watched any of the videos she puts out about it? No, no. It's like the grandma's in charge there. Cardi B tries ranching. Can you imagine that? Like dressed up like a dude, like a cowboy dude? Yeah, I mean, she used to drug dudes in strip clubs and then steal their money. Yeah, I was aware. I was. They told you that? I was totally paying attention to like, where I put a drink and everything to that. Yeah, you have to. Yeah, you gotta be. Or else you wake up without your wallet. I don't know if you own one. No, I just got one about two weeks ago, actually. So I was kind of excited. I was like, all right, not a bad deal. You can put things in it, so. So on day one, when you decide, hey, I'm going off the grid. I'm going to be a caveman and just live off the lands. Do you have a car? Do you have a house? Do you sell everything? Do you burn it? Yeah. Do you give back to the earth kind of like into the wild? Remember Christopher McAnlis just left the fucking wallet and just said, all right, great. Yeah, nothing. I didn't quite go to that extreme when I was living in California. I took all that, like the high speed gear, sleeping bags, tents, and all that sort of jazz. Went to Palm Springs, gave it to a bunch of homeless guys, and said, all right, now we're starting at square one. And I took one college class on like Stone Age tools to kind of learn about it. And then I just started making them from there. So like knives and spears and axes, and use those sort of things. I mean, I do own a truck now. I paid it off. Big deal. Proud of you. Thanks, man. It's all through applause. Give me applause. You've got the headphones on here. There's two little things. Congratulations. No, it is. Hang off. Anything in today's world is a fucking huge accomplishment. Let's face it. It's huge. Especially when you're living in a cave and playing, you know, in the woods and stuff. I mean, what are they going to do, repossess your cave? No, people don't even know where I go. That's the beautiful part about it. You just kind of... Well, I put a tracker on you. I see it. She has a tracker. Come on to it. Rectally. So when you sat down and went inside, you needed no. I felt a pressure. I'm not going to lie. It was a little unfamiliar, but, you know, you guys have been here longer, so. Well, make Bill feel the pressure earlier. I don't be on RPR tomorrow. Jesus Christ. So day one starts. Yeah. And you go out. What city are you in and what year is this? So at this time, it's 2009 in California. And I just started to do a long walk. I kind of call him earth roams, where you just kind of walk with no real plan, no real destination. You just kind of walk from point A. And force go. Kind of like force go. You gumped it up. I gumped it up. I actually gumping is when you have sex with a retarded girl, isn't it? Correct. I didn't gump it up. Oh, yeah. No gumping on this one. Oh, that's funny. But on day one, what city were you in? So I was right outside of Joshua Tree Calibre. Like Palm Desert. Yeah, it's beautiful up there. Yeah. It's pretty, it can be brutal in the summertime though, right? It's like 150 degrees up there. Or at night too, it gets cold. It's super cold. So which way do you go? North or south? I go north. I start really at the Salton Sea, and then I walk up through Joshua Tree, and then into the Mojave, and eventually make my way up to Mammoth, California. Okay, so night one, you're getting tired, day ends. You've walked how many miles at this point? Didn't keep track, but far enough to where I was tired. Like the whole objective was not to got to do 10 miles. You got to do five miles. You got to, none of that. It was to literally have absolutely nothing and just go. Kind of being led by Curiosity. So when I'm walking, you know, you see like a rock overhang in the distance. You're like, that looks like a great spot where I can sleep. Maybe there's bats. Maybe there's rats. That's all free food. We'll see what we can come up with and go. So you see rock overhang, walk to it. That's it. Just what's over there? And where was this? And are you cold? Do you have a backpack on? Do you have a sweatshirt? Do you have blankets? Do you have a tent? I just had a wool blanket, a metal water bottle, and then like a small steel blade. That was it. No backpack. No backpacks. You just roll the blanket up, tie it around your waist, carry your water bottle, and away you go. And then first night's sleep, I'm sure that was uncomfortable. Absolutely. Like how brutal was that? I mean, it wasn't anything where, you know, I was, feel like I was going to die. I mean, I had a wool blanket, so I just wrapped myself up in the wool blanket. Fortunately, the little rock overhang was facing west. So it kind of caught the dropping of the sun, which was heated up. And I mean, eventually it got cold, but it wasn't anything where, you know, the beautiful thing about some of my experiences with kind of the military background, that has really painted the worst possible scenarios, the worst environments, and the worst extremes. So you always have that to kind of fall back on. Is it worse than being on Iraq or deployed somewhere? No, it's not. So you're going to be fine. No one's trying to blow you up. No one's trying to kill you. So this is okay. Yeah, you'll get through it. But potentially animals. You know, rattlesnakes. No worries. Nothing like that, huh? No, I mean, you come across, you know, scorpions, tarantulas, rattlesnakes. They do have black bear in certain region, mountain lions, but I was pretty familiar with that environment. I was working a search and rescue out there for, you know, good year. So I kind of knew these areas, but I knew that that threat really didn't exist. There's, you know, we were kind of talking earlier, like, you know, fear kind of exists in the mind. It's a projection of something that hasn't happened. So once you can kind of handle that and manage it, you kind of fear less. You don't worry about the things that could happen because they haven't happened. Could you die? Absolutely. But it's very, very unlikely. Just keep kind of progressing, moving north. And as you're going up to Mammoth, what was your first human interaction? Crossing roads. You know, you kind of cross a road. And fortunately in California, there's plenty of homeless folks. So like, you know, you just kind of look like the average Joe. If I was to stand on the side and kind of wave somebody down, they might respond. But I just run across the roads, kind of give that hand like, "Hey, I'm shooting across." And then as I got up by the prison, I kind of had to detour wider and around because I didn't want to look like an inmate that had escaped. Oh, no shit. 'Cause you do look kind of like an inmate. Sure do. I mean, it's, I mean, it's happened. Yeah. I mean, it's not my first time. Like I got picked up by the Politei in Germany for sleeping under a bridge. So you're like real-life Rambo then. I mean, not like real-life. I mean, I would welcome that. I'm just looking for something to eat. Yeah, it's a fun experiment. Looking for something to eat. That's it. Goes back to Sloane's cock again, dude. I mean, hey, ooh, it's beefy. It sure is beefy. Beefaroni's, I might say. It's Italian. Yeah, I mean, without a doubt. But that first adventure kind of gave into like all the kind of continuous days after where, you know, now I live in Colorado and those sort of adventures are pretty routine. Whether I go out for a week or 10 days or 20 days, it's just minimalist, less is more what can nature provide and then try to utilize as much of it. I forgot to ask you earlier. But do you know Derek Wolf? Yeah, I know Derek. I figured you guys would do each other. Yeah. So he's going to be on our NFL show this season. Oh, right. Yeah, he's one of my dudes, man. He's such a good dude. Yeah, I did. He's definitely into all this shit. Yeah, I did his podcast and we've chatted several times. He's got a big archery kind of event kind of coming up, I think in May, June. So he's a solid guy. Yeah, he rocks. I've got a million fucking questions for you, dude. Like this is endlessly fascinating. This is the guy that's never been in the woods so he needs to know. I've been in the woods. I just after a certain amount of days. The only time you ever went in the woods was to put down your dog though, right? That and also Boy Scouts and shit like that. No, I've been hunting and camping a few times. Yeah. But the irony of it is when I went, I was up in Big Sur. I think I was eight or nine years old. Okay. Me and my cousin had walked off together and got lost. Right on. So we were missing for hours at that point. And I didn't feel unsafe, but they eventually had to call park rangers and all that other shit to come find us because I didn't know enough about it. But for you, you go from all this human interaction, you go from war to then just complete silence and being by yourself with just this water bottle and then this piece of wool blanket essentially wrapped around your waist. What is the first interaction like after all of this time? Is that strange for you? Is it strange for the other person? And then how do you describe this to people? Because even coming in the studio today. Yeah. Our producer was like, "Hey, dude, that's the fucking caveman." And you laugh about it. Because you've got a massive TikTok which we'll get to and all that other stuff. But of all the platforms. Right. I like you to play. Yes, yes. That's even crazier to me. Because most of the people who have the app on their phone have never been outside. Ever. And so for you, first interaction, or people asking if you're okay, if you're homeless, do you need anything? Yeah. Have you been dropped off, raped potentially? Like, because you kind of look like a rape victim a little bit too? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so I mean that very first interaction really, well, we'll cross in the roads, that sort of stuff. But just north of the the prison, Victorville prison, I was walking, kind of adjacent to a row, kind of into these mountains. And somebody was driving and they did stop. They're like, "Hey, where are you coming from?" And I think it was because we were in the vicinity of the prison. And I'm like, "Oh, I'm just hiking north. I'm headed to Mammoth. Everything's cool." And it's kind of one of those things where they kind of looked at me like, "What are you doing? What exactly are you doing?" And I kind of explained to them, "I'm just doing like a long solo hike. I'm heading up to Mammoth. There was obsidian up there. I wanted to go get some." And that was it. So they kind of like rolled their eyes, looking and said, "Would you need anything?" I said, "I'm all set." And just kept on going. Once I got into Mammoth, it was a little bit more normal because it's kind of like populated. Yeah. Mountain town. They kind of see that sort of stuff. But aside from that interaction north of the prison, there really wasn't much. My objective was to avoid people. And aside from, like I said, crossing a road, you can remain pretty discreet. I mean, especially in the desert, you kind of move more at night, I guess you could say. And you hunker down during the hot portions of the day. But as time progressed eventually, as I got farther north, which I knew there would be, there was more resources, more water, more wild edibles that you can wind up munching on. You could eat some rats. I'm not like, I don't recommend eating rats, but like rats are a pretty yummy thing to eat. Like pack rats and like ground squirrels and stuff like that. I mean, he'll put hair in your chest, but probably some on your ass too. But it's not a bad little meal, little rock salt. It's a good little day, you know. Well, I'm looking at you now, and you're a big dude who's jacked and all that other stuff. One would imagine when you start doing a journey like this, you drop a shit ton of weights. And you're probably pretty gaunt at that point, if you're eating pack rats and squirrels and berries. You start off calorie positive, you know what I mean? So you kind of, you bulk up with the right foods, and then you know you're going to wind up losing weight. So even if it's, you know, five days in the bush, you could wind up eating 10 fish, but you're not going to get the calories. I mean, even something like a trout's got a little bit more fat, but you're going to wind up losing weight. I mean, it's really the ultimate diet program. If you want to lose weight, just go into the mountains and see what you can, you know, forge and hunt and trap and whatnot. And you'll definitely drop some pounds. Did you know how to hunt in fish before going on this expedition? Absolutely. Okay, so that kind of gave you at least some advantage of, all right, I can at least provide for myself and get food, and I've done this before. And before that, you know, it was all military. Before military was hunting, fishing, camping, in that area, you know, so I was born in '79. So it was an era before YouTube's and all that sort of jazz, where you went outside and you played, whether you're playing with matches in gasoline or shooting, you know, slingshots at birds. That was what you did. So there was a foundation there. And as I got older, that foundation kind of was more established, learning how to do some of the hard skills, like make fire and build a shelter. And then the military reinforced it. And then as I was transitioning out of the military, that's when all this sort of, you know, long earth roams and adventures kind of kicked off. Now, what does your parents think about this in your family? When you said, "I'm going to do this." And I don't know when the next time I'm going to talk to you is. Yeah, I mean, at that time, I was married. So my ex-wife, she didn't really care too much. She was like, "Whatever, go do your thing." And then as far as my parents, I kind of limit the information, you know, because I don't want them to worry. As my mother said, she'd be worried sick or something like that. So I just let them know I'm out and about kind of doing these things. But as time has progressed, I've kept them more informed. You know, it's a less is more sort of thing. It can cause a lot of stress on it, because it'll bring out like a GPS. This is even before I had cell phones, but even today when I go out and I bring out like a phone, usually, I'll bring a plastic bag and I'll cash it, put it underneath a rock, walk out, and then come back to that spot. And you remember how to get back to that spot? Yeah, it's not. I mean, there's a lot of different methods, but like, I do something called sign tracking, where I'll walk a bit of terrain, and then I'll pick macro and micro terrain features. So like a big hilltop, a unique kind of geographical feature that's macro, and then something micro that's below it. And I'll use those as kind of my visual map as I'm walking, you know, from one side of the, you know, the state to the other or something like that. So like in, yeah, in land nav, you should be like, you should, if there are major terrain features around, somebody should be able to hand you a topographical map and a compass and put you in a place blindfolded, and you should be able to figure it out within a reasonable amount of time where you are on that map, right? And to be honest, it's not that difficult. No. Once you, like, if you study it in a classroom and then go out and try to do it on your own, you're going to get fucking lost. But once you've been out there and see like, oh, that's what a saddle looks like, right? Then it's like, it's relatively easy, to be honest. Yeah. It's kind of like Ray Charles when he loses his sight, and he's on the ground looking for a cricket. Like, hey, eventually you're going to find it. Well, I think he was on the ground looking for the hair one that he had dropped. No, it was a small boy at that point. Hair one was later, later, later, obviously. And then I'll go back to Gump here. We'll Gump it up one more time. How long from when you started to when you stopped that you said, all right, I'm ready to go back to life again? That was only like, I think it was like 18 days. So pretty much, I mean, at that point, once I got up to Mammoth, I just called my ex and she came and picked me up. So that was just like the kickoff adventure leading into multiple. So like at the age of 37, I had a heart attack, I had a massive heart attack, it almost killed me. But that was the point where I started to go a little bit more long term. That was like six months into a cave with the occasional visits coming back to see my kids and whatnot. But like, it's always been long adventures, but that one in California was kind of like the kickoff one. And then, you know, when COVID hit, I was in caves. After my heart attack, I was in caves. Before I met my girlfriend, I was in caves. You know, I kind of come back, hang out with my two sons, be present as a father, and then roll back in. I mean, COVID was the best because nobody was in the mountain. Yeah. How did you get vaccinated if you were in a cave? Yeah. How are you even alive right now? I know. It's a miracle you're here. It's crazy. It's a miracle you're here. Did you have a heart attack out in the wilderness or in town? I had it in town. I had just returned from Alaska teaching a course. And I was mid training for a super jungle ultramarathon down in South America, six months in. Wait, where in South America? Was in Panama? No, it was... They do this thing called Run For Your Life, where you run the whole Panama Canal. My dad did it back in the '70s. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah. Like 50 miles. Yeah. This was like 245 K and it was a four-part series known as the Axis. So they did one in like the Himalayas, one in South America. And the goal was to, you know, knock out those four legends. That's cool. Yeah, it was pretty good, but yeah. So I was training, had this kind of pressure in my chest. You know, people like most grown men, we die from stupidity, as I always kind of like to say. But I didn't have any like tightening my arms and my teeth or my lower back. It just felt like as I expressed like Satan took a dump on my chest and just burning, burning hot. And yeah, long story short, my ex drove me to the hospital. They're like, you had a heart attack. I'm like, look, 37. I'm in good health. I don't think I know what you're talking about, you know, you're totally wrong. The guy's like, well, I've been doing this for 40 years. You had a heart attack. And I was like, all right, we'll let you go with this one. Yeah, I'll give you this one. You get a ball again. You're the only one you get now. But yeah. So then after that, I kind of came into that healing kind of phase, if you will, where they put me on all these drugs, wanted me to do all this like cardiac rehab. And I'm like, this is not how I want to go about recovering and healing. I knew what I needed to do. So it was moving out into the bush, living in a cave, wearing low-end cloths, animal skins, and just eating wild and sleeping, and bathing in icy cold rivers and truly healing the body to kind of get to that point of normalcy. And during that time, I'd come back for a couple of days and hang with my kids and then shoot back out in the bush and shoot another rabbit and eat it. This is kicking off into like Colorado March. So there's still snow on the ground. Oh, wow. It was freezing cold. So it was a good time. Put air in your chest. And I think why your story is so fascinating and why everybody at home is going to be interested in this, is I think a lot of people think about doing things like this. They never end up doing it, obviously. You're the only person that I know who has actually done it. Right on. Doing, living a life on your own and isolated and hunt and fish and doing all that stuff and then coming back to the real world, which do you prefer better? Yeah, see, that's a good question. Because I love the real world as far as the people that are there, whether it's those close personal connections, but I love the freedom that the natural world provides, as far as like there's no one out there to tell you what to do, how to go about doing it. So I found a balance between them both. And the one, the natural kind of draws me in, but then that kind of normal world draws me back out with, seeing my loved ones and things to that extent. But some people struggle, like you don't have to go balls deep, 100% every single in one sort of venue, if you want, you can kind of go back and forth. And I think for me, I was 100% balls deep at one point. Now it was, all right, let's just try to find that balance, because I wanted to be a father, I wanted to be present. I want to go to parent teacher conferences, have to look a teacher in the face and be like, I don't have any idea what you're talking about. Look at my kid, he'll be like, let's get the hell out of here and go about our business, but it's a balance. And it helps when you're wearing a loincloth in this scenario. It does. Kids get straight A's, that's what I'm going to say. Yeah, because they're afraid you're going to rip their face off like a goddamn wild orangutan. And I understand, I like it. I could wear your fucking face, dude. I could wear your skin over my fucking face. That's it, nobody will know. Nobody will know, except me in the woods, you know? No mirrors, no, no, I'm just doing it just to do it. Now do you have a volleyball? No, I don't have a Wilson. I have a Finn, which is my dog that I've acquired maybe like two years ago, but he's, I think it was like a res dog. They usually dogs that get kind of crossbred on reservations, but he was eating roadkill up on the side of the road. I found him, I'm like, you like roadkill, I like roadkill. Yeah, we should be buds. Symptotic. We should be homies. Yeah, yeah. I mean, roadkill is good. Do you guys get matching tattoos? No, not yet. He's a pitsky mix with a little coyote, so he's a pit bull husky in coyote. So he has a game drive and like food drive, like, you know, who run out the cave, go catch a rabbit. He'll like, non it for maybe like 45 minutes and bring me back like half of it. Really? Yeah, he's fun. He's really good. He catches squirrels and rats and rabbits. He's fish. He's a killer. God damn dude, the two of you guys found each other. Yeah. Love in a hopeless place. It's really much, man. I like it. It exists. There's a chance. Yeah, exactly. There's a chance. If you didn't have a girlfriend, kids, all that stuff, would you remain in the wild? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And just never come back. Probably. Yeah, I'd probably go north into like Alaska, or I would head way down south Texas into like the Chihuahua desert, where it's just two super extremes. But I really enjoy the deserts. It takes all the guesswork out of what's available there, as far as food, water and resources. Like, whatever it is, is you can't be like, well, let me walk over this hill and see if there's better options. Like, what exists exists, but I love the deserts, but Alaska just has a lot of great things to eat as far as, you know, wild game and berries and salmon and grailing. Yep. You name it. It's absolutely awesome. So I love those two regions. But the mountains, I mean, the mountains give you a lot as well. Same kind of mixture of both, because not all plants exist at like 9,000, 12,000 feet. So. Well, I would imagine the deserts, you know, there's not a lot of trees and things like that. So shade is not really an option. Food, what are you looking at? Lizards, coyotes and shit like that. Not a lot of options for food. Water, where are you getting water out in the desert? Yeah, so I mean, water is not too hard to find. If you look in a desert environment, there's big patches of green and vegetation. Usually there's groundwater. And then in the American Southwest, most of our rainy season is that like June, July and August. So in certain deserts, you'll have a hard kind of limestone, bedrock sort of layer. And as the water falls, it goes to the dirt and then gets trapped there. So you can dig for water. There's springs, you do get the rain. But when you think of a desert, just don't think of like, you know, the Sahara, does it a super sandy environment? In certain areas of like the Chihuahua, there's huge, you know, canyons and rock overhangs and caves. You're right, you're right. So there's diversity in that geography. It's where those shady areas are, and those water deposits are ultimately brings in other things to eat. Because if they're resourcing, you're going to resource it and it gives you an opportunity to get a meal. So there's like odd dad and bear, elk a little bit farther north, mule deer. You can get, you know, there's all sorts of nuts and berries and sumacs and fennels, all sorts of wild things that you can definitely. People have sustained in that environment for thousands of years. Do you ever eat anything poisonous out there that you didn't know? And then what was the reaction to it? I mean, well, just pay Odey. But that was on purpose. It's a William C. LaFoura cactus. You can spot it from a mile away if you're not looking for it. It's got all these little buttons that pop that button off. Now you're speaking my language. Then it's out there on pay Odey. Then it's how I get it. Then it's young guns too, right? You're up on the cliff face just getting your shit face. Hopefully you don't fall off. I would say do it at ground level, if you can. Don't want to go in the spirit world too high. Yeah, sure. Do you know what the dosage is? Gravity still works. You thumb cap it. So everyone's thumb and they're thumbnail. It's a perfect proportion to take a dosage of something. So even if you're coming across a mushroom you're being unfamiliar with, this is the mushroom. And I pull off a chunk that's the size of my thumb cap. It's a good way to introduce something that's foreign into the body and then to see how your body responds. So I should be doing this much cocaine is what you're saying. That's not a lot. That's not enough. That's not enough to really have a good time. It's both thumbs. It's enough to get your head off. Get your start. Yeah, it's enough to take the edge off. But it's not enough to, you know. But my first time doing that, I did it with a guy named White Bear that lived down in the deserts. That's a good name for a dude to do. You fucking pay out your mess. Engine? Was the engine? Yeah, yeah. He was a Native American. So he kind of walked me through the process. He kind of get sick up front and then I didn't get like that whole like, you know, I'm in another dimension or anything like that. It just kind of like felt a little bit like light and airy and kind of loose, if you will. But it didn't go like to the 12th realm and then talk to some sort of alien species or anything like that. I don't know. I don't know. With, actually, Mescaline makes me more sick than just straight up peyote does. But after I, if I do purge, I don't always. But after I do, I don't, I've got to take a lot to make the walls melt like a lot. And I'm not sure if that's really helpful to be honest. I think you might be right. I don't do it all that often. This is an experience with him. But I don't like to get that out of it, if you know what I mean? I could see the benefits for a lot of folks. Sure, yeah. Like for me, it's therapeutic. Yeah, but if you're just trying to have a good time, probably take it easy. My God, dude. Because Donnie, you look like you've had a good time, brother. I like it around. I do what I got to do. I don't think you drop a Tupac reference on the show today. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. So when you get out of all of this, how do you meet the girl? Yeah, that's a really good question. Well, she's of like type, I guess. Really? Well, she's a Texan, which makes it even better. But she actually signed up for a winner survival course. And I had to put her on a waiting list because it's maxed out. But we kind of started a conversation because we both share the same species of dog. So she's like, hey, I've got a dog. Where do you bring your dog? I'm like, I bring it out of the mountains. And she's like, well, let me know some spots. So I kind of let her know some spots. I'm like, if you want to meet up, I'd be happy to show you. And she's like, yeah, that's the first time a woman has ever agreed to meet me in the woods without really knowing anything about me. Yeah, that's suspicious on both of your parts. Yes. Like it's for you to ask and for her to accept. Yeah, because she's done it before. Honestly, you have. Well, her being at her first time? That was her first time. Her being a Texan, she came strapped with knives and pistols and she was ready to throw down in case. Ship popped off. Yeah, anything went crazy. But yeah, we went for a hike and then we just kind of started dating there. But I give her a lot of credit because she's probably 105 pounds soaking wet. And I've brought her into the mountains in some really harsh environments where I'm dragging a sled with caribou hides and animal hides. And she's carrying a pack. I'm carrying a pack. And this is like the second date that we're on. You know, because dating, everyone dates differently. But for me, I was like, I need someone hardcore. You know what I mean? And for her, I mean, I put her, it was like probably like 15 degrees out. No tent, no food. We're just sleeping on a tarp and she's got a dog. I got a dog and she makes it through the whole adventure. No issues. Yeah, she'd be good to breed with. You know what I mean? Wow, that's where I'm going with this. The first time you have sex out there. What's that smell like? The campfire evergreens. It's about each other. Oh, I mean, none of you guys shower and you fucking done it. No, you shower in the creek, man. Yeah, but is that part of it? Like, do you say, hey, we're going to creak it up and then we'll go back to the tarp? I mean, you could creak it up. I usually smoke bathe. If you know what that is, you know? Sure don't, friends. Look at me. No, I still think I got a smoke bathe. So, like, if you start to get-- He's wearing a crew neck sweater right now. Yeah, from a vodka distiller, for Christ's sake. Shout out dripping spring vodka. Yeah, man. But that's it. Yeah, I'm not a-- No problem. Never had a smoke bath before. What does that entail? It's basically you build a fire. You put some kind of punky wood on there with some green, some evergreen. And then you kind of strip down. You get naked and then you get a low smoke. And you let that smoke work over your body. And it will kill any, like, bacterias or any bugs. Like, if you're at fleas, never mind. Me, have fleas? Yeah. I mean, no, bro. No, you've had fleas. Yeah. So that smoke will get rid of, like, fleas and shit like that. Sand fleas and shit like that. Sand fleas and shit like that. Okay, you've experienced sand fleas at Carolina Beach before. Those little things that leave little red marks on your ankles and shit. Oh, yeah, we would have to burn those fucking candles. So, very similar. Sit your name. Sit your name. Sit your name. I mean, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Same thing. The smoke gets rid of all that sort of stuff. But you can use your, you know, your smoke to kind of cleanse your body. And if you throw different aromatics in there, whether you got some sage or you got maybe some yarrow or mulling, it adds a little smell. Because sometimes the streams are frozen over, so you can't get to them. Right. So you can like, you can roll in the snow. But, I mean, snow is a really great way to dry off if you're wet. But just a good little smoke bath. You smell fresh. You smell clean. But you don't even have condoms on you. No. No. I'm kidding. No, we don't use them on the show. We know. No, I mean, that shit. I got a vasectomy. Are you going to be sick? Yeah, with no anesthesia. And did you do it yourself? No, I did it with, with a stone tools. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Man, I'm shits too. Man, they just, just real quick and easy. No value of no nothing. I was like, because my ex was like, I've had two kids. You know what the pain is like. I'm like, I got, I got two nugs. I'll show you what it's like. So I went in there. They just kind of, you know. First, the whole, the whole process was that you got to sign some waivers. And I went in, kind of signed all my stuff. They're like, oh, you got to take volume. I'm not taking volume. Then they taped my penis to my chest. And then-- Whoa, whoa, whoa. Take it easy, dude. Take it easy. Come on, man. That's what they said. What do you think you're sliced to land on your load? Whoa. It's a secret chest. You mean they taped it to your tummy? Just blow my belly. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] It's, I mean, it's my story. So many times I've been-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mass up to the through and open my shoulder. I was ready to go. They washed the balls. They washed the balls in half hours. [LAUGHTER] But yeah, so they punched two holes, cut them. And then I was like, all right, that fine. It wasn't that bad. A couple of, like, pap's blue ribbons in between the nugs later on brings us swelling down. So-- Yeah, a couple cold ones down there. Yeah, you keep it simple. Keep it simple. Keep them and rotate them out. And was she happy or sad about that? My exit of time was pretty happy. We kind of did some some planning. But it's only worked out for me as, you know, I progressed forward in life and, you know, kind of was, you know, dating and whatnot. And then it meant my girlfriend. So it's kind of one of those things where it's like something we don't have to worry about. And how long you guys been together? Three years, three years. OK. But she's in like medicinal plants and the bush and really, really, really knowledgeable when it comes to like medicinal plants as far as-- Look, like when you say medicinal plants, you're not talking about what when people say plant medicine. You're not talking about ayahuasca and shit. No. You're talking about like literal medicine. So like taking the bark off a willow tree is a natural form of aspirin. Collecting cottonwood buds to do a burn salve or something like that. So taking all the natural components that exist in nature and turning them into medicines that you would need for an infection, like my trip to the Amazon came back with a parasite from just drinking the water. And she made it tea and it was gone pretty much in like 48 hours, 36 hours. And now do you guys own a house in real life too? We don't own a house. We rent a house. OK. And I have to-- you know, I kind of keep a house because as a father with two teenage sons, they have like a normal kind of pattern of life going to school and working and playing lacrosse. So she lives there with me. And then my boys jump back and forth between their mom and myself. And what do your kids think about what you do? You know, they're kind of all four. They don't mind. It's not like an embarrassment or anything like that. Fortunately, they've been like big kind of coaches in some of this social media stuff. Like, how do I-- like when the whole TikTok thing came around, like my youngest one was like, I'll coach you in this because he only went on it because he wanted to go on it with his friends. And at first, I was like, there's no way. I'm sorry, man. I've heard the war stories. So then we kind of went down this thing where it was like a trial and error. And then I felt weird being like a 40-year-old man watching like all these dances. His dance? Yeah, it was like this is horrible. And he's like, just make your stuff. And then eventually, you'll kind of go to a different side of it. And I started making stone tools. And next thing you know, it's just blown up to uncontrollable numbers. Right. And what is that number right now? How many followers do you have? It's over 10 million. Holy shit. I think on TikTok is like 15 or something. Item. Or some shit. 15 million. Yeah. Bob, can you pull it up? Donnie does TikTok. I thought I thought I saw it. I think it's-- Oh, no, it's 10.7. Yeah, there you go. 10.7. And do you even know as this is happening? Because you're out in the woods. Or are you going back and your kids are telling you, hey, dad, you're not going to believe this. You've exploded on the internet. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how it first started. And like my son was like, you get a lot of people following you. And I'm like, well, great. What does that mean? And he kind of like laid it all out. Like it's not the worst thing. And he's like, well, just keep making more stuff. And then for a while, TikTok was paying money for videos based on like views and stuff. So I'd post a video of me making like a mucka-waddle or some sort of knife. And you get two grand, three grand off of something like that. I'm like, wait a minute. So I can just make shit. And they'll give me dollars. Do what I'm doing anyways. And they're going to pay me. So I'm just hitting record. And that was pretty much it. So it's worked out. And people are completely fascinated by it, especially when it comes to like the stone and the survival sort of stuff. And I mean, there's countless people that I've chatted with that are now kind of going down that stone tools route, exploring some of the survival and just kind of living remotely. And you know, I'm like, cool man. I ask nothing of anybody. I'm like, you don't have to buy shit. You don't have to do anything. Don't send me anything. I don't want anything. Like just sit back and watch. There's, I'm not here to influence you. I'm not here to say anything. - And neither are we. I mean, if you want to buy a Braille box and turn your bros.com, that's up to you obviously. But we're not here to do that either. We never have, never will. Donnie, you've been on podcast before. Obviously we got some sponsors that keep a shelter over our heads. Donnie, first and foremost, go to sped.com/drinkinbros. I know you don't sleep in beds, but we do. 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Well, usually in baseball, I bet parlays, right? 'Cause it's not like other sports. There's 14 games most days, right? You win a shit ton of money. 14 to 15, yeah, so the bet that I have on right now, it doesn't include Friday's games. We'll update this on fake news, but it doesn't include Friday's games with the Brewers and Braves and Phillies. But right now I've got Orioles beating the angel. This is my parley. Orioles beating the M2. These are all money line, by the way. Okay. Yeah, so all the lines are usually one and a half, so just go money line. The odds are almost never worse than like minus 250. Yeah, it's not. And usually they're a bit under that. So I've got the Orioles beating the angels, that seems obvious. I've got Fromber Valdez taking the Yankees down, Houston over New York, Dodger's beating the Cardinals, Reds over Nationals, Indians over the Oakland A's, the Mariners over the Red Sox, and the Diamondbacks over the Rockies, and that's about 20 to one. Okay. To win that. Damn dude, I picked the exact same parlay minus. I thought the Yankees Astros was a little too close for comfort, but I have all the rest of those in a parlay. Well, I think I don't think Stanton's playing. He's a corpse anyway. I don't even care about it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. That's Astros Yankees was the only one that scared me a little bit, but I love love. There's a lot of great matchups where good teams and or obviously it's opening day, so they're number one starters going, their ace is going against bad teams. So like the Diamondbacks playing a shitty team, the Mariners playing a shitty team. The Orioles are playing a bad team. The Reds are playing maybe the worst team in baseball and the Nationals. Dodgers are the only ones playing what I would call a good team. I mean, the Cardinals could win their division, so the Dodgers are playing a decent team, but I don't know, glass now, home opener, show Aotani blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And you can win 20 to one odds in that. So it's big boy odds out of there. I think the Arizona Diamondbacks are a sleeper this year. I mean, they made the LCS last year. They did, but it was kind of unexpected. Why the LCS rather? I think this year they might even have a better year this year and have a shot at the actual title. It's possible. They just had a big signing, so. Yeah. Now for me tomorrow nights, I am betting all the final four matchups here. The Sweet 16 is in full action by the end of the weekend. We will have our final four. I've got Arizona over Clemson. I've got Yukon over San Diego State. I've got UNC over Alabama. And then I've got Illinois taking down Iowa State there. Gonna do some parlays. And then also single game betting as well over there. Blackjack is rocking the casinos open at mybooky.com. And the golf picks are already in here from Delco and I on Delco Dan's dirty golf picks. We bet those every single week as well. He's done open this week. 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And if you are in Houston, just go down there and buy out the store, all right? Now, if you're not in one of those states and one of the surrounding states, we still ship right to your house at hardafseltzer.com. Support us and support the show. - So if you run into a situation, I've got some specific questions. - Got it, yeah. - Later. - Let's say you run into a situation where you need some lube in the woods. - Yeah, yeah. - Where does that come from? - Aloe. - I don't know that I would use, Aloe's got a high viscosity. I don't know if I would use that. - We're talking like sex lube. - Yeah. - Animal fats. - Okay. - Yeah, it's all natural. - It's gonna be a smell. - That's gonna stink. - No, it's not. Fat's good. You gotta join the tallow eaters, people that eat raw animal fats right off it. - Oh yeah, I've got a bunch. - Yeah. - That's actually all I cook in. - It's animal fat. - Animal fat, yeah. Actually, it's wagu tallow. - Wagu tallow, yeah. - It's like super clean. - Yeah. - You're pretty good. - Yeah, Jake was over at the house and he was telling me about that. And he goes, "Oh yeah, do you want some of this fat?" I was like, "No, I don't want that showing." - Yeah, all you do is put it down. I mean, it's not fun. - That's what he was tallow. - Yeah. - You render it. - That's what he was saying. - And he was melts. - But with you, I understand the fascination with you. Like there's some people, man, where I just don't fucking get it. Like YouTube, for example. I look at YouTubers out there and it's to me, the most untalented people who are the faces of YouTube and shit like that. I'm just like, "Holy shit with you. "Here's the fascination "and maybe somebody said this to you in the past, "maybe they haven't." I think you're doing shit that we all wish we could do and just take off and have the freedom to do it. But unfortunately, I've got kids and responsibilities and businesses and all this shit. I can't even leave for like 48 hours, I feel like. So like my last flight two weeks ago, I was in Los Angeles and I was there for 36 hours. And it was for three meetings and then boom, I'm out of there and I'm back on a flight and I'm back here 'cause we do this job every single day. But I also feel responsibility because we've grown a bunch of fans and listeners and all that stuff where I don't wanna miss because I know that they want this every day. So I feel like a greater responsibility to do it. And I think your videos and you as a person and what you're doing on TikTok is everybody else's escape where instead of watching just stupid mindless bullshit of Chewbacca mom or somebody putting bottle caps on their shoes and tap dance into a fucking Michael Jackson song, this is the escape that they're actually looking for, but there isn't, I don't know anybody besides you that's doing this shit right now in real life. Therefore, to go to a channel like this and just kind of live it out for at least a few minutes out of your day kind of makes you feel better. - Yeah, I appreciate that, you know? I think the one thing that helps in this is like people that send me a comment, I reply to them. Like I don't have this mentality because there's so many followers here on YouTube. Like I'm too cool for you or I'm anything different than anybody else. Someone's like, "Hey man, I really like to tell you did that video. Thanks for making it." I'll get on there and say, "Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you." Thanks for watching. Thanks for taking one minute out of your day to watch something I made. Now, you could get a thousand comments, 10,000 comments, I can't get to everyone, but I still make an effort. I think that's where a lot of people these days, they have a certain influence. So they're in the kind of the limelight a little bit more and they separate themselves from the reality of what it is to be a human being. It's connecting and finding an opportunity to reach, you know, an 18 year old kid or a 48 year old man saying like, "Look, you guys can go and do this. I appreciate you watching my stuff. I'll happy to answer your questions." Like, "I'm not an asshole." So, and I'm not seeing people that don't do that or, but like, I think I've just grown because I've connected with people and it's give me an opportunity to, you know, have a shit ton of followers and wind up, you know, having followers that actually follow, they show up, they watch because they know if they do leave a comment, maybe after that first 30 minutes, an hour, hour and a half after I posted, I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna be, "Hey, man, I appreciate you coming in. Hey, what's, how can I do this?" Give them an answer, give them a response. Like, we shouldn't kind of separate ourselves. And I know there's a lot of people out there that like to post and ghost and do all this sort of stuff. Well, you should be thankful that those people watch your stuff because if it wasn't for them, those sort of things would not exist. Whether it was a TV show, a podcast or whatever it is. I mean, connect to your audience. That's really what builds that community. - How do you deal then with the negative comments? So, for me, take Instagram, for example. So, I'll answer people on Instagram because usually I know them. It's very rare that it's strangers that I don't know, to a certain extent. A couple of strays here and there, that's about it. YouTube is a whole different fucking beast. Where you don't know what video is gonna catch and why and it just could be pure rage and hatred. And then kind of same with Twitter to a certain extent. Is there people that get in your comments and say negative shit at all and does it affect you? - Now, first off, I'm a grown man. So, someone's words, don't hurt me. That's just the way it is. If they kind of start to antagonize other people, I send them great coordinates. And that's just basically let them know where I'm at. If they want to discuss it, you can come to that great coordinate we can fucking discuss. One, they gotta know what a great coordinate is. And two, know how to get there. - My dad's got a helicopter. - There you go. - I'll be there in the morning. - We'll be fine. But no, I mean, I don't really get a lot of negative comments. I'm not promoting anything except this is what I do. You can show up and watch or you don't have to. So, there's not an expectation. Like, all of my builds are based off of what people have asked, you know, to build. So, somebody says, can you build a knife? I'll look at the camera and say, can you build a knife? I say, yeah, I build a knife. Thanks for watching. Like, I'm not here to tell you like, if you want to buy this knife or you want to do this or you want to grow a beard, you know, that's it. It just makes it easy. There's no expectations on their part or my part. Whether they like it or they don't like it, it's totally fine with me. I do have one troll on YouTube that we've actually become pretty good friends. His name is Red Dog and he used to like-- - That's how I am. - Yeah, he loves it. - Like, the only reason I even read the comments is in case somebody says something funny. I don't care if it's towards me or not. I don't even fucking cares, right? If you're trolling me good, that's fucking funny. - Yeah, he'll respond to it whereas I won't, just because I don't want it in my mind for the day. Like, I want to come in with an open mind every single day. Do the show that I think is what I want to do and successful and all that other shit with Dan. I don't want to hear people's negative shit. So I'll try to-- - I don't think it's always negative though. That's not what trolling always is. Sometimes people are just like, 'cause I'm like that. I'm a dumb dick like that. If somebody could walk in here and do something and be like, to me, maybe it's gallows humor or something my brain immediately goes to the worst possible place and it's funny to me, right? So what happened? What's this guy's name again? It was Red Dog, Red Dog. - And what was the first initial comment that Red Dog made? - I think, I mean, this is like a while, but like we've become friends, but it was like, I think you're full of shit, you know? And I was like, all right, great coordinate. And then he would kind of respond and then it's kind of turned into this stuff where he would make comments about like different TV shows. So then my reply would be like, well, hey, look man, if you want an opportunity, I'm happy to put you in the right, you know, kind of contacts, this sort of stuff. And then eventually it would, they would come and I'm like, are you the same troll? He's like, yeah, man, it's me. I'm like, where have you been? Like he would kind of dive in and then dive out. And then I started wondering, I'm like, what's going on? Are you okay? He's like, yeah, man, I've just been real busy with work. Well, you know, you're my favorite troll, get on there and, you know, give me some more shit. I'm totally fine with it. All right, I'll be on there tomorrow. You know, so it's, it kind of morph, but it wasn't anything where like, you need to kill yourself or, you know, you know, take a long walk off or short, you know, cliff or something like that. - Oh man, I've said some awful shit to people. (laughing) You're thinking like, oh man, I'm like, oh, there was one person, 'cause that's why I don't do it, but I will have to take screenshots for advertisers and shit, right? And I'll catch a comment and I'll reply to it. There was one day, this one dude caught me with a comment when I was like, motherfucker, I was just taking a screenshot for an advertiser and then I just launched into it. Like I put a DM to him. So it wasn't on my public feed, a DM to him that just broke down how the rest of his life was gonna go step by step and then decade by decade. And what age he was gonna kill himself at and why. And like, it was so fucking dark and like forgot about it and then I don't know, maybe two or three months later down the road, I was like, oh shit, dude. And I don't remember writing that thing but that guy I just ended his life, probably. - I mean, that's like an average text I send to one of my friends. - Yeah. - But it's a friend. - Yeah, true. - This is a total stranger that's the deal because in the age of the internet, and here's where I'm going with this, in the age of the internet, you're so far off the grid in the internet and everything else that like, shit, that's not your world at all. And you don't know who's on the other side of it. Who the fucking keyboard warrior is or any of that shit. - True. Nobody that's talking shit on the internet is anybody I'm worried about. - Yeah, that's my kind of mentality. - Come on, man. Like real dudes are out there doing dude shit. - I mean, the grid coordinates my number one tell. Those are a bunch of fucking numbers. I'm like, yeah, I don't gotta worry about it. - Yeah, I was right after being afraid of you, yeah. - I've got three grid coordinates with all the locations I'm pretty routinely at and they'll never make it. - That'd be awesome. - Now, you've got a book coming out here. - Yes, sir. - Wild wisdom, primal skills to survive in nature. Pop that up on screen. - RCR something, this whole UR full of shit. - No, no. (laughing) I think in the end of this journey, now you've lived that life long enough. Where people wanna know, I mean. - Sure. - Yeah, for sure. - So tell everybody what the book's about. - I think I own every single one of any kind of book that's like this. - All right, all right. - Anything Rinella writes I buy, 'cause there's always like nuggets in there, you know? - Yeah, I'll send you guys, I've got a bunch of things that I'm gonna say. - I already bought it. - So don't worry about that. - Appreciate it. - Yeah. - I always buy it immediately. - Yeah, we buy everybody's books that come on the show. - Yeah, thank you guys, you're gonna have to do that. But it's really just a kind of a survival book. This is how you can kind of go about approaching the woods. You don't have to have grown up hunting or fishing or anything to that extent, but more or less this is kind of your first textbook, if you will. It teaches you how to sharpen a knife, sharpen an axe, build traps and shelters, find clean water. I even got a couple recipes in there and how to cook a possum or raccoon out in the bush, as well as in your crock pot at home, 'cause I like to eat rodents, they're delicious. But it's just kind of-- - In your house? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back me up on this. - No, I've never been in your house for a smoked rat. - No, I mean, I live in Texas. - Yeah, man, it's normal. Like, it's not. - It's not normal. - You didn't eat squirrels and shit when you were growing up? - Sure, did not, no, no. - Killed 'em, but I didn't eat 'em. - Squirrel and dumplings, that's good. - Really? - Yeah, you just gotta kill like fucking 80 of 'em to get any meat off, 'cause it's not, it's like what four ounces of meat in a squirrels on top? - It's like a little win. - It's a pittance. - Eat the legs, kind of like a chicken wing, you know. But yeah, I mean, I've got recipes in there. It's just chock full of knowledge and skills and certain abilities folks should do that are just kinda, you know, learn about who they are and how they're gonna go about to kind of explore in the woods. There's nothing to extreme. I'm not gonna show you how to like, you know, hunt a bison with an at-lattle and take it apart. It's basic survival, kind of basic methodologies, chalk with some kind of stories that I kind of in, you know, encountered and whatnot. - You said hunt a bison with what? - An at-lattle, which, - Then an ax? - Wow, it's a ladle. - It's like a six and a half, seven foot long spear thrown. - Yeah, there's a video of somebody killing one from last season. - Yeah, I've got, maybe it's yours that I saw. Somebody goes up over a small ridge and the thing's kind of eating in a little meadow down here and he fucking puts it right through his back. I mean, it's a perfect throw. - They gotta be close as fuck to throw that thing. - Well, that bison was sedated. I won't go to the whole story of that, but-- - That's gay. - Yeah, there's yours? - No, you killed it, the other dudes. - The other dudes. Most of the ones that, you know, we take like, I'm going next week in at-lattle hog hunting in Stamford, Texas. I will do a couple of days of rifle and then we'll go with some primitive bows and at-lattles with big stone points and projectiles and-- - But it's kind of, that at-lattles flexible, right? Like it's not like, it's like a long stick or so. I mean, it is, but it's not like very rigid, I think. - No, if you can go to like, like YouTube shorts or something, I have some at-lattle throws on there, but it's a seven foot long spear and as you throw it, it kind of wiggles and kind of has this radio wave propagation where it kind of, larger waves and eventually transfers to small. And with the big stone projectile, as it hits an animal, that kinetic energy carries and it just slices and dices, so-- - There's this way in there, yeah. - Yeah, I've done it. - Go to his YouTube shorts. It's the YouTube is, Donnie-- - Donnie dust paleo tracks. - Dust paleo tracks, yeah. - And there's some throws on there. 'Cause I've done a lot of experiments with different universities about ancient hunter-gatherers and how they go about killing things with an at-lattle, the projectile. So there's, you know, one short one right there. - Put that up on the screen. - Yeah, play that with audio, please. - Oh, shit. - Yeah. - They don't, it sounds like a bullet. - Yeah, you can get a little bit, but you can throw them 150 yards. And that was teaching a class. We were out in the Utah deserts in these canyons. We had spent some time living in that kind of cave. If you keep scrolling, there's a couple more on there, but-- - Is there any of you throwing it at an actual animal? - Yeah, there's a couple. You got it, there's a bunch though. - How many subscribers do you have on YouTube? - Just 1.1 million. - Wow, dude. That's crazy. - Thanks. - It's awesome. I mean, for real, and again, I'll go back to what I said earlier, I think it's a great escape. - Go to that one, right? - For people who wanna get out of the real world and watch your video. - Watch your video. - On the top row, oh, this one. - So that's what it looks like. - Oh, holy shit, dude. - That's what it looks like, kind of slow. - So what's the thing called you're launching it with? - So the, 'cause it's kind of like a dog ball chucker. - Yeah, so that's actually the at-lattle. The at-lattle is essentially an extension of your arm, and it gives you kind of more mechanical advantages as far as creating a win. And with the flex of the dart and then the projectile, that's what allows you to throw it 100, 150 yards, so on. This is what Antifa should be using. - Exactly. - Next time they set all the setties on fire, they should be using one of these bad boys. - What happens when you miss, and then that hog ends up coming at you? - Then you don't need, buddy. - You got, I mean, you got a stone blade, or you got other darts. So the long arrows are called darts, and in those darts usually carry two or three darts with some sort of fixed point, or something called a foreshaft. So if like this is my at-lattle dart, I can stick a foreshaft down into it, and I can change it out with other projectile points. It gives me options on what I want to throw. So when this goes into the animal, it makes contact, it cuts animal kicks, my dart flies off, foreshaft stays in, and slices and dices as it runs away. - God damn, there's what it does to a bison. - Yeah, let's see that. - Right here? - Yeah, that's the-- - Yeah, the cut up in animal one. - Yeah, the one to the left, but-- - Wait, which one? - Yeah, I went right there. I think this might be a slow-mo. - Yeah. - All right, let's play some audio here. - Audio is in the volume. - Okay, gotcha. - I'm pretty low-key when it comes to-- - I'm fine, don't worry about it. - So that's a dart hitting a bison, and you'll see it just slide into it. - Wow, that's about eight, 10 inches in there. - Damn, dude. - Goddamn. - Yeah, fuck. - It will, I mean, how long is the blade or whatever is on there, typically? - About like that. So maybe anywhere from four inches to maybe nine to 10 inches, based on like what projectile you want to test. I kind of go with a little bit shorter one, in case you do miss, you know, if my foreshaft is half to to here, if I break my tip off, I can just re-address it, and then kind of get it back in action. But it's fun. - It's awesome, man, and with your book, I love the cover, by the way. - Oh, thanks. - Gigantic fan, Simon and Schuster. - Yeah. - A big boy company, obviously, that's doing this thing. I always ask our guests the same thing who are coming out with a book. Did you do the audio book? - Not yet. Not yet. - 'Cause it's listed on Amazon right now, and it's got you personally listed. So it's like, are you the one that's gonna be reading it? - Yeah, once it goes on to Amazon and we start that like audio book process, I'll do it. And I think I'm gonna do my first two books and audio book form, and then roll into this one. - Okay, great. - Yeah, you gotta, some people can get away with having a reader, but if you're somebody who speaks, like people know your voice, but now you gotta fucking do it. - Absolutely. - Yeah, you gotta do it, and that'll be a whole new world, because even when you go to Amazon and just type in the book, first thing that comes up is audio books now. - Smart. - 'Cause everybody's listening to podcasts, audio books, hardbacks and paperbacks are kind of second now. So I would do it if I were you. - Okay. - 'Cause this is one we purchased on here, 'cause it allowed us to do it. So we've already bought the audio book. - Oh, no, shit. - Yeah, yeah, it doesn't come out to, it says, obviously. - I bought the hardback 'cause I like to have it in the book. - I'm an audio guy, I love it. - I used to be super in the hardbacks. - Yeah. - And with somebody like you, again, it depends on who the person is. - Gotcha. - If I wanna hear their voice, like when Matthew McConaughey was on, audio book first. I love the guy's voice, same with you. - Gotcha. - Your voice was instant when we met earlier, and I was like, cool man, I'm gonna buy that audio book, but it doesn't come out 'til August 6th, so. - I'll start, I'll start. - Pressure's on. - Yeah, I'll start working, I apologize. (laughing) - I like how it's got you listed already. It's like Simon & Schuster's like, you're definitely reading this one. - I mean, it's gonna take you a week to record it in them two or three weeks to edit it, so it's not like you gotta get on it now. This thing doesn't come out technically. - Now you're good with AI, it's super easy to edit now, so you're good to go. - Right on. - Yeah. - What's a situation where you've been out there and you thought to yourself, you know what? I don't know if I'm gonna live through this. - Yeah, that was actually last year. I had a pretty extreme one where I was doing some scouting in these canyons, and I'd been into them several times before, but I dropped from the top side of the canyon, usually I'd entered the lower side, the river side, and I knew when I entered the lower side, there was water at the top. And this time when I dropped in, there was no water at the top, but water typically flows downhill, eventually I could get to the river. And I spent like four days trying to find water, a clean source of water, and I should just caveat that when I say dropping down this canyon, it's not like you're hiking down, it's kind of like a shimmy down, some slick rock, you're crawling through a hole, then you're kind of legging out, and then jumping down, it's quite a bit of work. And once I got down there, I'm looking for the water, so I start walking down the canyon, I'm not finding any, day one goes by, day two goes by. And I'm like, I'm running out of kind of steam here. So I start walking back up the canyon, and I'm like, all right, you know what you need to do. The best option is start finding those deep pockets of sand and stone and dig. So I come to one pocket, I start digging, eventually I'm able to create a little bit of a, you know, dugout area and it starts to fill, just with dirty, just nasty water. I slap my face and just start sucking it down. You don't want to do that, but when you're at that point of like dehydration, you got to get water in your system. I'd rather have the runs for the next five days than be dead out in the middle of the desert. So I drink that water, get back to the top of the canyon, shimmy up these cliffs and these, you know, little holes and rat caves, get all the way to the top. And as soon as I get to the top, I start to get the worst tunnel vision, like when you're going down as like a heat casualty, tunnel vision, my body is just cramping everywhere. And I just kind of like pass, not really pass out of the ground, but I kind of like hunkered down into the ground. And I had to start mentally finding locations that I could move from point A to point B. And it was from shade to shade. 'Cause it's like maybe 95, 98 degrees out there, intense heat. And as I'm kind of like hunched over, I'm dry heaving, you've been in that spot before. You're just like, I'm going down. I'm dry heaving. And I start seeing these little, you know, juniper trees, just casting enough shade. I'm like, all right, you got to get up. You got to go from here to that pocket of shade. And I knew I had about two miles to go before I could actually get to my truck. And just get up, start moving to that little pocket of shade. And I'd sit there and I probably kind of, not necessarily black out, but kind of just slowly kind of like get that tunnel vision, kind of kick my head into action and kind of come out. And it was just ebbing and flowing with this darkness. And I did that for two miles. And I think probably the last maybe like 200 yards, I honestly thought like it was game over. I was going to be that statistic. You're 200 yards from your truck, a guy that does survival and all this sort of stuff. And he'd die so close to his truck. And I was like, there's no fucking way you're dying out here. But you know, like your drill instructor starts screaming in your head and you got your old buddies from the military. Be like, quit being a pussy. And you're like, fuck you, you got damn right. You know, and you just sack up and do it. But that was close. I will say I had not, I had not gotten to that point in probably like 15, maybe 16 years of just extremes like out in the desert. Do you think Eddie Vedder is going to write a song about you? Like you're that close to death. - Oh man. - I was, I was especially with a heart attack. Like I have to stay hydrated or it just makes everything worse. Like I have this where they put the stint in my arm. So I have like this pseudo kind of like aneurysm on my wrist. And as I get like dehydrated, it like slowly rises like a like an old turkey thermometer. And this thing is like rock hard. I'm pulling my skin. I've got no sweat and I'm just like, I'm not having pissed. I'm just, honestly thought I was going to die. It was, it would have been a pretty, you know, interesting way to go. But I was like, fuck dude, that was serious. Do you have that in your mind? Do you have the dream way that you want to go out? Is it going to be like a Brad Pitt legends, the fall thing where you're going against a bear and then that's it, you're dying the wilderness? - That was an amazing thing. I would love for that to happen. - Right? - Yeah, I would be down for that. But I think the reality is I'll probably, I'll probably have another heart attack in probably the next 20, 25 years. - Once you have one, it's very likely for you to kind of have a second one. - No shit. - So it's, which is, you know, not to, like that's really the premise of like my first book is like the acceptance of death and how you can go about changing it. So I know as a 37 year old male, the probability for me to have a second one is exponential. - You're 37 right now? - No, I'm 44, but I had it when I was 37. - Oh, yeah, okay. - So at that time, it's like, all right, you know this to be a fact. You know, it is very likely this is how you're gonna expire from this planet. So knowing how you're gonna die, what are you gonna do now? Like are you gonna sit here and kind of live this, whoa, is me lifestyle? Are you gonna take the necessary steps to try to prolong that as much as possible? Like I've got the easiest solution to my death. I'm not gonna die in a car accident. Combat's over, maybe. - Well, we'll see. - We'll see, right? - Maybe we'll do some domestically. We'll see, yeah. - Yeah, we'll see it. - Yeah, we'll see it. - We'll see if Trump gets locked up, you know? But I mean, my mentality is like, all right, that's the most likely course of action. So now you have like an added advantage over the rest of the people on this planet. And if that's how you're gonna go, what are you gonna do to prevent it? 'Cause like, everyone has their brushes with death, but I'm like, that is something that could happen very, very easily. Whether it was out in a desert walk-in or I was, you know, walking through an airport from going one elevation down to another, it could happen. So now you got that little bit of a bonus. What are you gonna do? So for me, it's late in life to the fullest, you know? Whether it's eating wild foods and, you know, going on adventure, spending time with my kids, it's pretty easy to manage once you've kind of faced death in a kind of a very realistic way. 'Cause you can't see the heart. You know how healthy it is, how well you can run all these sort of things. But I mean, I could wake up tomorrow, land next to my girlfriend in the hotel bed, and that could be it. So you just fucking go hard as you can, non-stop, embrace everything and just never turn back, you know? - But fuck life, that's the next book. It's called but fuck life. - BFO, but fuck life. - It'll be sweet. - Hashtag but fuck life. - I know, put an orange cobber on it. Simon and Schoosterby answer about it, like put a star through the ew. - Well, it looks just like that, actually. - Yeah, exactly. Last question here, before we get to the drinking bro of the week, are you wearing shoes during any of this? - Not all the time. Sometimes I have like moccasins I wear, sometimes I'm barefoot, sandals. I just, I didn't wanna look short, so I put on shoes now 'cause I just had to be taller than one guy here. - Yeah, that is fun. And I get that. And you're not taller than me, but that's another story. - No, I mean, yeah, you can't be everything. You know what I'm saying? Give me everything in this life. - Sometimes it's sandals, shoes, moccasins, you know, case by case. - Okay, because when I watch like naked and afraid, as soon as they take their shoes and socks off, I'm like, man, I couldn't do that. - Game over. - Yeah, I'm like, I'm not doing that bullshit, dude. - None of that shit's real either, though. They're like 25 feet from a trailer. - Yeah. - Well, to an extent, right? - To an extent. The first thing you would do is probably make shoes. Some sort of sandals, some sort of foot covering. - Yeah. - There's a logical process into like, what do I have, what do I don't have, you know? Like, I need shoes, I need something to protect. - Well, a friend of ours, Tiffany, she was in the Air Force, it's your school, she was a survival specialist. - What's her last name? I know her. - Heart. - Heart. - Yeah. - It's something else now, 'cause she got. - We almost said Zabalab-a-ding-dong or some shit. I don't know. - Black hair? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, we almost did a show together. We filmed a pilot out in Colorado. - Yeah, she's cool, so she knows a lot about this shit. And we, anytime any survival person comes on, I think she was the first one we asked him. If you could only take one thing to the place, you're going, what would you take? She always says a knife appropriate for that area so you could make everything else. - Yeah, I bring probably a steel water bottle, 'cause I can make a fucking knife. I mean, with any one of these rocks you come around here, but it's very hard to process water. You gotta think about it. Like, you could build buckets and bowls and hot rock boil, unless you find a spring, it's dirty water, it's three, maybe four days, and then you've got dysentery, a beaver fever, you know? - I'm sorry, beaver fever? - I had that college. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm turning around. - It's the best of me. (laughing) - Both. - It was all with my face and chest and... - It's you. - In private parts, obviously, and yeah, it's just you work through it, you know? You just kind of... - Your body's going through changes, you're growing up. It's all normal, don't worry about it. - It is, what is beaver fever? - It's like basically water-borne pathogens from animals taking a dump in the water. So, Gerardia, Cryptosporidium, you can get like hepatitis, worms, all sorts of stuff. - Ah, damn, that's how Kid Rock got it. - Yeah, sure is. - Oh no, it's not a hand, it's Tommy Lee. - Tommy Lee. - It's got the hepatitis. - Yeah. - He's got like seven of them, I think. - How do you purify water out there? - The best thing to do is to boil it, 212 degrees, you can see the wrap of water boiling. If you don't have something like a steel water bottle to boil it in, and you do have a fire, or you even have some simple stones, you can craft a small bucket or a shallow bowl out of some wood, or even a big depression in the ground, with some big leaves, and then you heat up rocks, and you keep those rocks in the fire, you take your dirty water, put it in that bowl, and then take your hot rocks, put it in the water, and it will flash boil it. It will have particulates, it will be a little bit murky, but it will be safe to drink. It won't have any pathogens in it. So, there's difference between filtering, and then purifying. Filtering removes particulates, purifying kills. - I mean, you can filter through a piece of clothing or something, though. - Yeah, you can filter it out. - Or even leaves or sands in a pinch. I mean, that's relatively easy to use. - Absolutely, for sure. Now's the point in the show we get this thing called the drinking bro of the week, which is someone who has inspired you, or helps you become the person you are today. Would you like to give the drinking bro of the week, too? - I think I would give it to an old Marine Corps kind of leader, his name was Sergeant Philip Veracruz. He was this short little Mexican guy that used to run our dicks into the dirt and just drill us nonstop, but he kind of crafted my mentality going for, as far as kind of how to handle adversity and life and challenges. And yeah, he's a good role model, good hero. - That's awesome. Does he know what you're doing today? - Yes, he does. - Yeah, yeah. - Is the answer bad? - Yeah, he's definitely following stuff. He's just like, oh, I know you is this young Marine, and now you've morphed into this, and you know, so we work with vets in various different ways, so he's all pumped, man. - That's awesome. - He could co-author butt fucking life. - Yeah, get him to be a co-author and put him on the cover. - Hashtag be a co-author. - And then get matching BFL tattoos, obviously. - I don't know, man, you might, I mean, it's not my jam, but... - Leave the way. - Yeah, we'll see how it goes. - We'll see what happens, but back to what I was saying earlier about not missing the show every single day. This is why I also don't want to miss it, is because this is the greatest job on the planet. I would never get to meet someone like you in real life, and we do this every day with people from all walks of life. - Cool, yeah. - And it's the most fascinating thing of all time, because there's never a dull day, even when you walked in. You're probably, yo, what the fuck is going on in here, right? But like, never in a million years would I get to talk to somebody like you or interact and learn about your story and all this other shit. This is one of the greatest episodes of all goddamn time. I mean, it's wild, because you come in and it's like, it's very cool, you're a book, and it's a caveman and all this shit. And it's like, you're a real goddamn dude doing this shit, man. - Oh, shit, man. - And I get the allure of it. I understand the followers, everything. There's some people who've been on the show in the past, where I was like, what the fuck do they do? - Really? - Yeah, like we had a, I don't know, somebody who was in like fucking aerobics or some bullshit, had a million gajillion followers. - Aerobics? - Yeah, and a publicist was like, oh, you gotta have this person on or whatever. And I was like, you sit there and talk to him, and you're like, cool man, I have to do about eight minutes, man. So you work out, it's that kind of a person that gained some notoriety from solving problems that they created for themselves. - Yes. - It's like, oh, cool, that should have never happened. You shouldn't exist. - You're doing it just out of pure will of like, hey, I just wanna do this every day. Which again, it's probably like, all of us will now follow you where we appreciate it. - Yeah dude, just even a pop out of your day for 60 seconds and look at a fucking TikTok. - It helps. - I appreciate it, yeah, that's what it's there for, man. - 'Cause there's days when you're like, man, I wanna kill that cyclist. Like, I'm this close to murder, but I got three kids, and then now I get to pop on one of your TikToks, and be like, all right, man, I'm not gonna do it so far. - Now you know how to murder 'em. - Bingo. - And get away with it. - As I was gonna say, you gotta pre-dug holes. - Maybe that'll be the next book. - Yeah, pre-dug holes is actually my fourth book. - And I'd ask for your number to help me. - You don't have a phone. - The books just call, he'll send you a grid corner there. - He'll be good, he'll be good. - I'll have Dan read it. I don't know how the fuck to read it. (laughing) - I'm gonna read a lie to you on the Saturday book. - Oh, yeah, yeah, 161 northeast, 43 northwest, yeah. - That's not fair. - I'll be there. - Totally got it, totally got it. - There's only been numbers in whatever you're talking about. - I mean, 43 would be a parallel, yeah. - Yeah. - We're not gonna find it there. - Greenwich, there's the time zone. - It's a lot of longitude latitude, you'll get it. - You understand, the book is called Wild Wisdom, Primal Skills to Survive in Nature. It is available for pre-order. It also let me pre-order the audio book that is downloaded and will drop and it will be your voice when it comes out August 6th. And that's the other hilarious thing when people have books is we always buy the books, but they'll just show up and I'll be like, oh fuck, that's right, dude. I remember when we had that first and I'm about to shit. So I can't wait to hear your voice, August 6th. So we're looking forward to it. Tell me where they can find you. - You can't find me, that's the whole point, you won't. No, social media, social media, yeah. DonnieDust.com and that's pretty much, we'll lead you everywhere you need to go Instagram and YouTube's, all that sort of jazz. Just Donnie Dust and you'll come across it. - Perfect. And again, the audio book Kindle and hardcover is available for pre-order already. On Amazon out there, do yourself a favor and get it. Looking forward to it, man. Great story, great dude. Really appreciate you being on the show today. - Thank you, thanks so much for having me here. - This is awesome. - This is absolutely, man. - This is cool. - Go to iTunes, rate the show a five star and leave a quick review. Also, head on over to Spotify, it's just a five star and you can walk away unlike Donnie. We've got to pour ourselves out for just a little bit of scratch to get through the fucking day. We appreciate it's internet for Tiffany to Anthony Holloway. - Donnie Dust, I'm Ross Patterson. This is Ricky Rose High. - Yeah. (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (upbeat music) [MUSIC PLAYING]
