[MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome to Horror Cinema Obsession. Here, we dive deep into the chilling depths of horror cinema, from the critically acclaimed scares to the laughably ludicrous, and even the delightfully obscure. Now, let's join our hosts, Richard and Angelus, as they share their love, laughs, and sometimes sheer disbelief at the world of horror movies. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hello, halo, halo. This is Horror Cinema Obsession. I'm one of your hosts, Richard. And then the second host is so beautiful. Her name's Angelus. How are you? [LAUGHTER] This is where you say hello, halo. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] Hello. Hello, it's always awkward. We've got to just figure out how to just go into it. [LAUGHTER] I'm good. I'm good, G. How are you, Richard? I'm good. I'm doing great. I got another session of on-call. It's going thin. It's going great already. I love you guys. So if there's any awkward pauses, that's because I had to pause, take care of something, and then come back to it. But anyways, my week's been pretty good. It's been solid. We got our move-in date in the end of October. I'm pretty excited about that. It's one of our favorite months of the year, obviously. It's spooky season. Are you pretty excited about that? Yeah, for the most part. Yeah. No, you got to something like Rob Zombie. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Yeah. I'm bummed we can't thank Harry for Halloween, though. Yeah, I know, dude. We'll get our keys the 31st. So I mean, we could probably slap something together pretty quickly. I know. [LAUGHTER] OK. [LAUGHTER] Honestly, I don't know what is going to come by. Yeah, right. You'd be surprised. So your week's gone by pretty good? Sure. Yes. It's going. It's writing. I know. Anything significant happening? Mm-mm. We're going to see a haunted house tonight. I'm pretty excited. It all goes well. If all goes well, speak for yourself, man. I got tickets purchased. I'm going. Oh my god. I know. Work has gotten so busy, I've had to cancel so many plans with you. And they cost money. And I'm like, oh, like smashing pumpkins was the last one. YouTube don't did not want to go to that. I did want to go desperately. It's on the podcast, the episode before that. [LAUGHTER] But no, these situations like now I don't like scary wood at Silverwood. I don't know if I'm going to be able to go to that. So I'm a little bummed. Mm-mm. Just bear with me. Sure. [LAUGHTER] You're pretending to be bummed. I'm bummed. I don't want to go. That's fun. Last year was fun. I mean, anyways, so that's good. The movie we're covering, we got a good one for you today. One of my personal favorites, it is 1996's Bad Moon. No, it's not a straight to VHS movie like some thought. [LAUGHTER] This was a masterpiece that went to the theaters, man. My lanta. Now, Angelus, I know you have different feelings and opinions on this. What are your initial thoughts? It was a wholesome family movie. That's my opinion. OK, how'd you like it? It was OK. It was OK. Can you touch on it a little bit? Man, I'm not a werewolf person. I know I found this out, and I wish I knew this a little sooner in our relationship. [LAUGHTER] I love werewolves. You can live in the garage, it's OK. [LAUGHTER] Listen, this movie is like fucking airbuds. If you know the movie airbud. Mm, I've never seen it in my life. It's just kidding. There's like basketball and volleyball and wrestling, like everything. So airbud, it's kind of like, yeah, airbud versus a werewolf, which I love. This movie is awesome, and it's more darker than a kid's movie. Thank you. You like to make it think. There's some scenes, yes. The killings. Yeah. Or you're not a PG. But that? Oh, they're not. It's pretty. It's a family, we mean. It does have family. A lot of family. Yeah. It revolves a whole family. So does Fast and the Furious. And we're not talking about Fast and the Furious. We're covering a horror movie. So yeah, it wasn't your favorite. So in terms, and we'll cover this later too, but you, your personal take on this, you, I'm gonna quote you on this, you're like, what is this schlock, leprechaun was 10 times better. And that hurt my face. What? I didn't use the word schlock, but I did say leprechaun was more entertaining. So my bad bro. And everybody's in total their opinion. Mm hmm. I just, this one was one of my personal favorites. I was hoping you would like it. So the fact that it just turned you off completely to horror movies, like, I hurt my heart a little bit. I broke a little inside. You broke? Yeah. I got abandoned. He made me back somewhere. Damn. I, I told you, I don't find more wolves. I, okay, I have yet to see watch a, a, werewolf movie where I thought the werewolf was scary. Every movie so far that I've watched that has been just a story kind of feels the same to me from the movies that I've seen. It's a guy who walks in and he gets bit and he's so werewolf. He falls in love with the girl, but he's scared to get close to her because he's going to hurt her when he turns. But this. And in this we said werewolf with a family. And I, there was one scene where I was like, Oh yeah, that looks kind of creepy, but that was it. Yeah. The creepy factor isn't there. I agree with you. And I'm not scared. I am lying creepy. I'm not scared. I guess I, I knew what was coming. So I wasn't necessarily scared and I'm not really scared of werewolf movies. I just like the action and usually, especially in the 80s and 90s, I love the practical effects that make the werewolf and they show the werewolves transformation from man to beast. That's what I really like about this. So I get it, but I do like the interesting take on this throughout they took. And it is, and we'll cover a little bit more, it is based off the book called Thor, which is the dog's name. So you didn't even think that was unique? The dog. I mean, yeah, it's a different story, but I just didn't think it was scary. I know. I didn't either. But I didn't think it follows was I didn't think leprechaun was. They're fun. I thought leprechaun the costume that they put on the actor. Oh, it was creepy for sure. And yeah, that was a lot more creepy the way he keeps coming at you. He has magical powers and he can just kill you. And werewolf has that raw animal primal instinct. I know. But you only saw him in his full suit, a handful of times. I know. It all happened in the woods outside of camera. Okay, fair enough. Okay. So this movie had a modest budget of approximately $7 million. Yeah, I would call it a modest. I mean, dude, so for those movies in the 90s, we've covered a few that 7 million seems to be the going rate and that's pretty cheap for these. So however, though, the movie did struggle unlike other ones that grossed crazy amounts of money. Yeah. This one struggled at the box office and it grossed only around 1.1 million. So it it took a wash in regards of making its money back. And then that was during the theatrical theatrical release. While it didn't perform well commercially, bad moon has since gained a cult following, particularly among fans of werewolf horror films. I think that's the only one that I've ever met that has been like bad moon. I know, but there's a lot of things you've never seen a leprechaun before. Yes, I had. Yeah. Yes. We talked about this. It's on record. So yeah, no, and so bad moon two was also, well, bad moon, the urge on bad moon. I don't know if there's a two. This movie was filmed in British Columbia, Canada. The movie's outdoor scenes, particularly the ones involving the family's house and the surrounding wilderness were shot in Vancouver area, which often doubles as location in the Pacific Northwest due to its lush forested landscape, which I want to ask you. What part of Washington do you think that was? West. You think it was the west side because they don't specify either. Yes, it looked like West, like when you drive through Olympic National Park just how lush and full it was. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely isn't here on the east side. Not about east side. Not Spokane, where it's called desert and rock. It's not desert and rock, it's a combo of both. Now you drive over to Moses Lake. That's the armpit of Washington. That's central area, but now it gave me bikes like when we went to Port Angeles, there was a lot of lush and forest over there. That's kind of what, yeah, they just didn't specify, they just said they were in Washington at some point. You lie, you lie to me. I will say for my notes, the use of Canadian locations was common in the 90s as it helped keep production costs lower, which we're kind of seeing that now. I've seen a couple of things like Hollywood's kind of barren. They're moving everything to Canada for how cheap it is. So, but yeah, so that's bad moon. It's location again, bad moon was supposed to take place in the Pacific Northwest region of the United States, specifically in a remote forested area that gives the film its isolated and eerie atmosphere. While the exact state or location isn't explicitly mentioned in the film, the setting clearly evokes a typical Pacific Northwest wilderness with its dense woods, tall trees and secluded surroundings, making it an ideal backdrop for a werewolf story. Like Twilight movies? How they were filmed up here? Yeah, Forkswash in Timbaby. Boop boop. Have you visited that? I stopped there. We stopped there for gas. I did too. I did too. And then everywhere's like posters. Bad. Dude, I remember getting a handful of Twilighters. And this was years like, I've been on a, oh, couple of years I went, it's been a couple years, but I went and it's still heavily, they got cutouts, I got shirts. Like I said, I bought like five Twilighters. So, give it out to all my friends and so. You know who went out there? Madison made her grandma. Oh, I got a taker. And I guess it took a vacation to Forks and they visited some of the places where they filmed. Oh, my God. Who's under now, Madison? Yeah, I know. Call her out next time. Call me out. She even had a board game of Twilight. Really? She was heavy. I mean, that was the age though. A lot of girls at age were, were stoked on Twilight. I don't know if she was Team Edward or Jacob, I should ask her. Well, I mean, she is with Orlando. She likes the more, more ethnic. Jesus. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, where will baby go in that primal? No. What's his name? Who? The werewolf. I said Jacob. I think it's Jacob. Yeah. We'll have to ask her. That's a riveting question. I'm dying to know. You should text her. Just real quick. Say Team Edward, Team Jacob. Let's see. We'll do it. Let's see. She'll reply. Do you have any fun facts or anything that you want to cover before this or yours is usually sprinkled into the scene for scene? I was trying to look for stuff and oh my gosh, there was, it was harsh. I did see that apparently they kind of effed up because they showed a lot of full moons back to back on realistic. Oh, on the movie. Yeah. Yeah. They, they really switched those all together. Yeah, they did. But that's okay. This is supposed to be a fun movie. This isn't supposed to be accurate depiction because werewolves aren't real. Come on. Cold full moons happen quite a bit. Okay. So yeah, that was, yeah, they're not real. So let's look to their imagination. I'll give them that. Kind of like you always say, well, maybe this happened trying to like, yeah, they couldn't tell them those don't happen back to back and this word can't goddamn it. Okay. Do you have any other fun facts that you want to cover before we get into the stuff? No. No. No. No. No. No. So I do have that. I think Michael Pear. Perrier. Is that? Perrier. Perrier who plays the werewolf and uncle Ted was initially hesitant about taking on the role because he thought werewolf movies were cheesy and in interviews he later admitted that he enjoyed working on the film, especially the challenge of the special effects and wearing the werewolf suit. You could humorously imagine trying to deliver serious lines while in a full werewolf makeup thinking, this is my life now. That's what I put in my life now. That's funny though, the werewolf movies are cheesy. Kind of going along the line. What are you thinking? Oh my God. We have something in common. And then yeah, so that's a good transition for the cast. How do you feel about the cast? We had Dennis the menace. We had Dennis the menace. And then we have that lady that I've seen before. I've seen her so many times in movies, but I can't pinpoint one movies, but she has a familiar face. I can't think of where, but she looks for me. Maybe she just has a familiar face. Maybe she has a familiar face. Maybe. Maybe, maybe. I do appreciate that she was like playing a mom in the 90s. She looks very natural, you know, like I could see her expressions on her face. She was an old Botoxed up. Yeah, that's true. So yeah, no, you like the castor. I did. I liked, I didn't realize that it was, he was a lot younger when he filmed Dennis, right? Oh yeah, I think that was a couple of years prior. Amazing gamble. So let's start with Michael. How did you feel as him as the, the werewolf and the uncle Ted? He did a fine, quite marvellous rule. That sounds pretty sarcastic. He's been on everything. I'm surprised at that. That's what you're mentioning. So some of the things that I got, I didn't list everything was Eddie and the cruisers in 1983, Streets of Fire in '84, the Philadelphia experiment in '84, Village of the Damned 95, which I don't remember him in. And then Virgin Suicide's in 1999, I think that's directed by Sophia Coppola. I watched that. I don't remember him and I remember Kirsten, Kirsten Dunst. In Virgin Suicide's? Oh, is that a different point? That's an interview with a vampire if you're thinking of that. No, she wasn't in. I've never seen it. So I don't know. Yes, sir. He has 216 credits, acting credits, and he has 35 upcoming in the nuts. Jesus, he's still acting. He's going hard, man. He was just fucking going. And it looks like he was also in the Lincoln Lawyer Vatican tapes and more recently, and Tenebres into the darkness. Damn, dude. Yeah. So he's just a, he's a working actor. He's a machine. He's a machine, a terminator of acting. And then we have, you're starting to get into, Mario Hemingway, who played Janet Harrison, the mom. She plays Ted Sister, a proactive single mother who becomes suspicious of her brother's condition and is fiercely protective of her son and dog. Meryl was born in 1961 in Mill Valley, California. Some of the notable filmography that I got for her is Manhattan, 1979. Personal best in 1982, star 80 in 1983, and then deconstructing Harry at 1997. Okay. Do you recognize any of those? And then she also, the one I do remember is Superman, the quest for peace. Oh, maybe that's where she looks familiar. I played Lacey Warfield, a businesswoman caught up in Superman's efforts to stop nuclear warfare. The most recent thing I saw is a movie called God's Country Song that came out in 2023. Oh, I can already tell it's probably not my kind of movie. Extreme. Yeah. What else? What else he got on her? That's a lot I had on her. Nothing really stood out. She's done a lot of stuff too, but I think that I recognize to be like, oh, yeah, I watched that. Gotcha. And then we have three Mason Gamble, Brett Harrison. So he plays Janet's son and Thor's best friend. He's a key role in uncovering his uncle's dark secret in this movie. Like we mentioned, his nodal filmography is Dennis the Menace in 1993. So three years before. And we have Rushmore in 1998. It's a Wes Anderson cult classic. Do you watch it? Yeah, I've seen that. It's classic. And then he was in a movie called Gadhika, Gadhika in 1997. After a promising start as a child actor, Gamble's acting career slowed down as he grew older, but his role in Dennis the Menace remains iconic. Do you have anything else? Like he did he stop acting? I didn't find anything. I saw the most recent thing that I wrote on for him was a golf in the kingdom. And that was back in 2010. Oh, wow. Since then a minute. Dang. So he just kind of sparingly, if anything, yeah, not a whole lot. All right. This is a relatively small cast too, really to round this out. There's four characters in this, aside from the really small, like the sheriff, the lawyer. Primo. Yep, four is Primo, baby. He plays Thor, the dog in this. He's a family is loyal and protective German Shepherd who takes on a heroic role in the film, sensing the danger that Ted poses and standing between him and his family. Background form, Primo was a real life German Shepherd cast to play Thor. And when was he born? And where was he born? Well, there isn't much information about his background, his performance in bad moon as the brave family dog is beloved by fans. I do write down. He saw their acting credits and apparently it took them six months to find him. So I do know this is his most famous role, but go ahead, continue. He was in a TV show called Two, back in '97, when lights go out in '97, the baby dance betraying recent thanksgiving family reunion in '03. And the last credit is the karate dog in '05. Wow, dude. Yeah. What an actor. Look at fucking him go. Fucking Primo. He was a good actor. Dude, he was. He was awesome. He was easily the best actor in this movie. Yeah. He was pretty. Yeah. He was impressed. No, no, no. Oh, it was incredible. So I do have the supporting cast and we won't go too terribly in depth with, but we have, I can't even say that Rothgar, Hothgar, Matthews plays Jerry and that's Janet's love interest in the film. What? She had a love interest? Oh, wait, maybe not. I thought that was the guy that played a flop scene. Oh, it is. I don't know how I mix that up. I don't know. And then yeah, he plays the guy trying to like scam him. Yeah. He's a con artist. And then we have Ken Pogue and he's Sheriff Jensen, which I guess he's in roles like the Dead Zone in 1983 and the silent partner in 1978. Okay. And Matthews, he played in the 4,400 and apparently supernatural. Do you don't fucking say him? Yeah. So these actors, they brought a mix of experience from very genres to bad moon, contributing to the movie's mix of horror, drama and camp. Their diverse filmography makes it clear that while bad moon wasn't a blockbuster, it had a cast with solid acting jobs, making it fascinating entry in each of their careers, in my opinion. So yeah, I mean, so what I'm gathering from you kind of for this movie. It was man. It was boring. Like there wasn't a whole lot going on. It wasn't boring. It was, it was cute. There was family bonds that just, you know, cannot be unbroken, return. Even if you find out that your sibling is a fucking monster. She might blow your head off. Yeah. Oh man. You're there. Take him in. Fuck, dude. I feed him. I feed him. I feed him. I don't know. He was like doing a wee or she was just like, all right. Yeah. I'm going from afar. Yeah. For sure. Okay. With the director, hopefully I got the director, right? It's Eric Rhett. He is the director background born February 16th and 61 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA. His career. Eric Rhett is best known as a screenwriter and director in the thriller and horse genres. He has gained a reputation for crafting intense gritty stories, often dealing with themes of violence, survival, and the darker sides of human nature. Red initially studied filmmaking in the AFI Conservatory in Los Angeles, which helped launch his career in the film industry. What do you have? I'm sorry. I'm laughing. I got a response from Madison. Oh my God. What is it? So we asked earlier. Is she team Edward or team Jacob? She said team Jacob a thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. I know it. Yeah. Well, it makes sense. She's on four to nine though. Oh my God. I love it. Sorry. I love it, dude. Good. I'm good. Oh. It's going to be like why? Why? Oh, no reason. We were just watching Twilight. We were just wandering your stand. We were thinking about you. That was a question we wanted to ask. So I got a little bit more red, first made a name for himself with screenwriting, particularly for his work in the horror thriller genre before transitioning into directing. His penchant for creating tension-filled action-driven narratives makes him a staple in genre films from the '80s and '90s. Do you have anything on him? I know that I've seen one movie, one other movie that he was involved with, The Hitcher. Oh, dude. That '80s? Yeah. That was really fucks. We got to cover that. That. I love that movie. That was surprising. I'm not good. I know. We covered it on our TikTok. We did a brief thing. Mm-hmm. But man, I'd love to get in depth with that movie. I know. You got really invested in that movie. Anytime you can theoretically think about Jennifer Jason Lee getting ripped apart, it is a good movie. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh, but did you like Jennifer Jason Lee? I'm side-tracking. Did you like her in Atypical? Yeah. I mean, she did a good job of being that mommy. I think that was what she was going for. Oh. The overprotective, overcontrolling mom. Yeah. I didn't realize it was her. Yeah, Jennifer Jason Lee. I haven't... I don't think that I've seen much of her in a... She's kind of... She's all over the place. But yeah. Okay. Back to it. So that you've seen The Hitcher. What do you have... Else have on them? You said you had some pretty interesting stuff. So first film written was Gotman's Blues, which was a short story. And then when he was in school, his thesis script was actually The Hitcher, which was later produced. So that's really cool that he wrote it when he was in school. Yeah. That's awesome. And that was his project. Yeah. And then later on in '07, they remade it, which... I don't think that... Have you watched The Remake? I was The Hitcher. I have to. I have to. But he was an executive producer on that one. Yeah. And there's still... and then from the '80s to the 2000s, he produced screenplays, New or Dark, Cohen and Tate, Blue Steel, Body Parts, The Last Outlaw, and then from there, he went on... He moved from writing to directing. And so his first feature of film that I have is Cohen and Tate in 1987, and then Body Parts was Undertale, Bad Moon and 100 Friends. Yeah. So he's directing... I mean, The Hitcher is great, right? But so for me, though, Near Dark is considered one of the best vampire films of the 1980s. Yeah. Have you ever seen it? So the fact that Cohen wrote that screenplay is pretty awesome. And then he moved away from film and went on to writing novels. So that's what he's been doing, because the last critics that I saw for him were in writing novels. Gunso Santa Sangre, The Wolves of El Diablo. And then the most recent was Branded in 2021, actually the Crimson Trail in 2021. I did see he had a pretty dramatic time of his life, at one point back in the 2000s. Yeah. He was in a pretty tragic car accident. He crashed into a bar in LA. And two people were assaulted dead. After the incident, he tried to take his own life by slicing his own throat with a broken glass. It went all over the medium. Jesus. Yeah. And so there was... That kind of slowed things down for him? Yeah, it did. So I don't know if that's why he's been kind of... Am I? Yeah. So he survived the incident. He's been taken to the hospital, and he was released under an alias a week's layer. So how now he's just been writing novels and kind of keeping it. That kind of sucks, but I'm glad he didn't die. Yeah. Well, hopefully he found something he likes doing. Obviously writing, he's really good at it, and it's his passion. Like, dominantly, that was his career. He just ended up directing a few films, but by and large, it's writing is what he's most known for. Yeah, exactly. Along with him, the writer, so this movie, Bad Moon, if you do research, you'll find it out. People really looked that far into it. But Wayne Smith, the author of The Author of Thor, is the basis for Bad Moon, that book. This movie is based on that book, and Wayne Smith is the author of it. So what we have is primarily known for the writing of Thor in '92, the book that served as the basis for the '96 Werewolf' movie, Bad Moon, not much is widely known about his personal life. The Smith tends to maintain a little profile, however, his novel Thor stands out as a unique take on the Horjana due to its original narrative perspective. The story is told from the point of view of a German Shepherd dog, which does he have any other books? Did you look kind of? He does. He has... There's another book called Nightlife, but then he has this really, really long-on-going series called 'Rifts', and there's a lot of volumes on it. Really? Writing? Mm-hmm. That's cool. Yeah. Off to read it. I don't know. This is the only thing I even know he even exists. I didn't know he was a guy. I like that, man. I know. I should look a little more into it, because I really do like this movie, so I can imagine I like its style. Now, the movie's probably a little... The book's probably a little more different, but... Yeah. So if you hear Angela's giggling, she just got a picture from Madison. Her sister-in-law with a picture of her posing with cutouts of Team Jacob and Team Edward. I think it's a picture from Forks when they visited. Yeah. That's hilarious. She had to be in what? Fifteen. I stirred a pot. Yeah. I just asked Team Jacob or Team Edward, and then she's like, "What are you?" And then she sent me a picture, and then there's all these background posters in the picture. There's this Twilight and the movie. I would like. I'm Team Hufflepuff. She's hugging like a cat out of Jake. She's hugging a cat out of Jacob. Oh my God. She's a nerd just like us. I love it. She is. We're vampires. And for werewolves. For werewolves? That's hilarious. Oh. Man, we got through that pretty quick. What else do you have? Let's see. So I did see that they ended up cutting a few seconds of sex from the movie and gore. Just a few? Because there's a pretty, we're going to cover it. There's a pretty aggressive scene in the beginning. In order to move it down, in order to avoid it in an NC 17 rating. They were dangerously close. That was a lot of sex, man. Yeah. I was like, "Richard! My eyeballs!" What the hell? I know. I forgot all about that when I suggested it. I thought it was a family movie because you're like, "Yeah, Thor. It protects the family." And then I started watching them like, "What the hell?" So the beginning is kind of other than the fact that the origins of his werewolf-isms does play no part in anything else, really. I think they just want to plug in that for an occasion. I was like, "Let's do this for the adults." Yeah. I did also see that then movie. So I think part of why the movie didn't do so great. It opened the day after Halloween and spent almost nothing over it. And spent almost nothing on marketing. Up to bastards. There was a comment from Brad that he wasn't entirely surprised when he failed to find an audience in theaters. It was after Halloween. Well, and I think I've had a couple of things, too, like, sorry to cut you off. With this movie, the marketing didn't help. But also, it was kind of dated. By this time, you got to remember '96, I believe Jurassic Park is out. You have more of the CGI stuff coming. Yeah. I think a transition, and this movie still is stuck in that '80s werewolf transitions and practical effects. So I think it was kind of hampered that way. People weren't kind of about it. Yeah. They're like, "Well, you got to show us something new here." And I don't think it got a fair shake until later, like they were saying, it got a cold following. But I think there were some factors here that definitely hampered its abilities. That's what we mean. Yeah, exactly. Not a fair shake altogether, but that's just my opinion on it. Okay. Yeah. What else you got? And also, so Steve Johnson of XFX was hired to do the werewolf suit and the prosthetics. He also participated in the movie "Slimmer" by... Yeah. Yeah. So he was in there, so they liked him for his practical effects, and they brought him in, and he joined them. Wait, "Slimmer" or "Thinner"? It says "Slimmer." Slimmer. I was thinking, "Thinner," you know what I'm talking about that. Yeah. I was thinking, I think. I thought that's what it was. Maybe not. "Thinnerman" or whatever it is. Yeah. Apparently, the wolf was eight feet tall. Well, so we're going to post pictures that you found. Did you save those? Yeah, I say some of them. We're going to show you pictures on our socials showing how big this costume was. You can see the person in it. I thought that was a pretty cool perspective that I've never seen before. Oh, yeah. How he got in there? Yeah. Or somewhere else, one of the clips talked that it was he liked it better because they got a better effect while doing the movie, more of a more reaction and natural movement with having someone be inside the suit rather than just being straight animatronics. Well, so I do want to come back on that transition, the werewolf. It was kind of lackluster towards the end of this movie when you see the transition because it just shows him standing there straight up and you just see shoulders up. And then all of a sudden it's his face and then it shows like a morph, but it's not even a good morph. It's just like a, they do digitally do it, but you can tell it's that cheesy 80s kind of digitalness. Oh, yeah. And it turns into the werewolf. It's a look. It did. It was a little creepy. Like it wasn't like full on, but I was like, yeah, but it's not like American werewolf in London. You remember that? The werewolf transition. It's the best. So obviously you can't meet that standard, but you can get relatively close. You know what I mean? Everything does a great job. There's other movies that do a great job of the transition. I feel like they cut a corner right there and they could have done a better job because that's what I, when I see a werewolf movie, that's what I want to see is him morphing into the werewolf. It was too. I think I'm talking about the scene where it's just his face and he has like the contacts and the teeth and the teeth in like, yeah, and a little bit of the face. You can tell he has some stuff like going out on his face. He's got yellowing on the eyes like he's got jaundice. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Jaundice. I was like, what the fuck? Um, let's see what I got. Just going through my notes real quick. Bring more, bring more. Apparently there was a couple of, couple of places throughout the movie. I didn't catch them. Spoops that happened. One of the scenes were at the beginning when we see Thor in his jumping on the skin. I didn't get more. Some people pointed out that you can see that he's wearing a harness. Yeah. I didn't notice it. And when Brett is trying to jump offense literal in the movie, there's like a person in a black bodysuit holding him up over this. So I did find him my, sorry, I did find him my notes that the budget did play a part. It limited some of the scope, especially when it came to effects and action sequences comparison. Like I was saying, the howling and American werewolves in London both had more substantial budgets, allowing for more complex transformation sequences. Location shoots and makeup effects, bad moon keeps it contained to one primary location and features smaller scale confrontations werewolf movie on a budget, man. So that's kind of, that's kind of what hindered it too. I think it could have been better that way. You think it's still a masterpiece? Yes. I still enjoy it. Okay. Okay. I respect your opinion for Cardo. Thank you. Thank you. I respect you too. Oh, thanks. Well, with that, we're 38 minutes in. We kind of cruise through it, which is cool. Do you want to take a break real quick? Sure. Yeah, get to our plots and seem for scene. Sure. All right. I like it. Are we going to get an appearance from Vienna's review corner? I think so. After she's fed. Oh, hell yeah. Dude. I can't wait. Sorry guys. We missed her last week, but she had a dance she was going to. So, priorities, man, priorities. All right. We will be right back. Is the full moon turning you into a hairy beast? Flying fur in places you even know could grow hair? Yeah. Like when your back hair starts creeping all the way down to your levels? Exactly, Angela. Don't worry, because at lunar lifestyle solutions, we've got you covered literally introducing mange control, the only grooming line, strong enough for a werewolf's problem areas. From taming that whole moon back push, to keep everything smooth around your pajarito, our silver blade racers can handle it all. Because nothing ruins a night of howling at the moon like a mess down near the Hoya's de la familia. Hello Richard. But hey, at least you've got our fur taming job. It'll keep you filthy smooth even in those rough nights when your korita gets a little too wild. It works wonders on the old tail too, gotta keep things sleek for the maximum weighting potential. Oh, it's the over calling it now. Either way, lunar lifestyle solutions, mange control will reduce smoother than a silver bullet. Because even werewolves deserve to feel manscaped and magnificent. Lunar lifestyle solutions came in the beast one parteprivada at a time. All right, we're back from the break. Cheers compadre. No, that was fun. Do you want to tell the people what we did on our break here? You fucking ran away. We did. We went to a haunted house. That was fun though. I had a blast there. That one, although small, was fucking awesome. Do we want to give them a shout out? Yes, we do. Yes, they're really awesome. I believe they're followers of our page. No, you fucking, they got you. I know. Pretty good. All I kept hearing behind me was screaming and screaming. But you know, that's how I am in scary haunted houses. Scary haunted houses. Yeah, if you guys are not following Night Market and Street Fair, they put together during the summer. I think today was the last one of the season, this nighttime vendors and markets, and each one has a different theme. So today was the Monster Bash. And the haunted house was put on by crime scene entertainment, the haunted hall. Yeah, give them a follow crime scene entertainment. Yeah, it was really fun. I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was fun. We got some good, if I can, snacks, baked goods. Yeah. That pumpkin spice churro, baby, that had some cool stuff there. That was cool. Mm-hmm. We didn't win the giveaway, though. Well, we don't know. Did they call you? No. They didn't call me. Yeah, I didn't know I gave them my number. I know. I'd give them mine. Oh. There was a lady in front of me. She had like 10 of those tickets filled out. Oh, she really wanted that shit. She did. I wasn't that passionate about it. It was just a picture of like Freddy Krueger, Jason Boyes, all the villains. All the horror icons. It was pretty cool. Mm-hmm. It's about supporting the local vendors and the artists. Mm-hmm. I know. Okay. If you wanted it badly, we could have dropped 100 if you wanted it. Whoa. You could just tell me. Whoa. We'll take you home right there. Big baller over here. Ballin, baby. Anyways, we are back. That was fun. Going to that street fair. What was it? Street market. Street and fair market. Night. Street fair market. Oh, my God. Night. Street fair market. This was your thing. I was just taking a long, I don't know what the name ones can repeat it. It's the night market in Street fair. Okay. Perfect. You got it? Yes. Oh, okay. Okay. Do we want to get to our plots now? There's plots in this show. That's crazy. Don't look at me like that. Dude, chastise this movie one more time. I'm a chastise. I said we have plots. Yes. Did you have time to write this one? I wrote a plot. Oh, hell yeah. It's a beautiful. You know what I say to that? It's big too. Raise hell, praise dale, baby. Oh, you. I think you should go first because this is like. Wow. Or maybe? No, no, no, no. You go first. I want to see mine is cuter. Go. Go ahead. Me. Okay. We have bad moon in this remake episode of Scooby Doo and the Werewolf. We follow the story of Brett and Thor, who make quite the loyal duo as they embark on the adventure of a lifetime. After Uncle Ted stops by to visit, Thor's radar goes way off as he senses something is not quite right with good old Uncle Ted. After tireless hours of stalking Ted, which realistically in today's day, it would warrant a protection order. Thor follows Ted into the woods and makes a gruesome discovery in Zoinks, while Uncle Ted is a werewolf in disguise and an effort to protect his family. Thor has quite the pissing and staring competition with Uncle Ted until they can't help but to engage in the ultimate WWE match. Well, Thor becomes the victor and conquer the mask Ted wears, or will the rage of the werewolf overtake the cute German Shepherd? Find out by watching the movie. Okay. I like the blend. That was pretty good. You know, painfully disappointed. Um, no, it was great. It was great. I thought you were just kind of like totally shit on it. So no, that was perfect. Okay. Are you ready for mine? What's up? Oh my gosh. Wait, I got to blow off this mug for my gun. Oh my gosh. Alright, here's mine. When Ted shows up at his sister Janet's house for an impromptu visit, he's not just bringing family drama. He's dragging a whole new meaning to having skeletons in the closet. Good secret. He's harboring a hairy little issue. And no, we're not talking about the unfortunate back waxing incident. As knife falls, strange things begin to start happening. And the real MVP of the household, Thor, the family's little German Shepherd, senses that something's off with Uncle Ted, forget your own, the mill family tension. This is more I might eat you in your sleep levels of awkward. And Thor's on it, sniffing out the danger like it's a butt at a dog part, except this time something smells really wrong. Well, Janet's just trying to be a good sister and keep the peace. Thor's out here playing guard dog, detective and therapist sniffing out all the red flags. Or should I say, rough flags. As tension rises, Ted's nightly activities get a little too wild and it's up to Thor to protect his family from a problem even bigger than your brother moving in and never leaving. Oh my gosh. But hey, at least this time, it's not just the dog who gets sent to the couch, Ted's got more bigger problems. I say much bigger problems, not more bigger problems. Sorry guys. Wow. How was it? I mean, it wasn't as good as your Scooby. You liked it. That was good. Do I get the point today? I'll give it to you, except I like danger when I get a butt at a dog park. He snips that shit out. He sniffs it out. No, good. Good job. Snub, plop, snub, snub, snub, snub, snub. Snub, bop, snub, snub, snub, snub. Okay. So do we want to go in that scene? Foul scene. Mm-hmm. My God, this is worth all you know. Just see the one lens. Oh my God. We're going off the row. First-time listeners, we kind of get sidetracked. We both have ADHD. Minds medically diagnosed? Hers is it? Yours is not. Yes, it is. By yourself. Dr. Richard. I went to a doctor, okay. Okay. I did too. Dr. Akaliz. Stupid. Oh my God, it's fogging up again. Okay. So, for the movie, man, we are flowing through this. Kind of like the movie, how it was nice and fast paced the whole time. Was it? The pacing was incredible. It was? Hey, look. I was just like getting the reactions from you. That side eye glare. Focus. Focus, Richard. We're talking about the scene by scene. Go ahead. Go ahead. You get it. Go ahead. This is a podcast, you can't see the awkward silence. Come on. This is it. This is Richard Richard's snaps. Am I left through it? Oh my God. Huh? Okay. The opening scene, we pan into Ted in the jungle. Bouch. Right. He's with a what appears to be a native tribe. Yeah. Do we know what jungle he's in? Do they say? I don't remember. I don't know. The movie begins in the jungle where Ted, a photojournalist, is on an expedition with his girlfriend during an intimate moment in their tent, a werewolf attacks, brutally killing Ted's girlfriend. Ted manages to kill the werewolf, but he is severely injured, hinting at his curse. Now, now with this, this is what we were talking about earlier. Like there is a super raunchy sex scene that's happened in there and it looks like they're having a good time. And then they hear a knock at the tent, right? That's a little scratch. Yeah. A little shadow. You see the werewolf shadow coming in. He scratches open the tent, the girl screams and then she gets clawed right away, right? No, he screams first because he's they're doing his whole. Oh, he's like, she's on top of him. You see his o-face. I think. So he sees the thing come from behind her. Yeah. You totally have the, ooh. And he, we just, the werewolf reaches in and grabs her and as he does. He does. And he's kind of holding it like kind of like you would see a bank robber holding a hostage. It's kind of like that. What's your negative? There's an entire to thing? Uh huh. Oh. Her, her fake breasts were all over the place on the screen. Are they fake? Oh, yeah, those things are fake. Come on, man. They were like hard looking, like, you know, I'm talking about, they looked like Barbie. You were like close attention. She was young. I'm in it for the details. Okay. When you just tell fake, dude, I'm telling where the nipples the right size, Richard, you know, they were, but they were just placed weird. I was weird. Oh, where they just kind of lopsided. Yeah. Just didn't look right. I don't know, guys. I'm curious to see what your opinion is all this. Please reach out to us. Anyways, the werewolf has her hostage and she, he's like tearing her apart pretty much scratching her. He's scratching her way over. She's screaming. And then all of a sudden, does she get her head torn off? No, it comes out and he's trying to fight the thing. Oh, yeah. And then the werewolf hits him back. He's back, my lover. The werewolf hits him back and the guns right there. Mm hmm. So he crawls to it. Yeah, he's crawling to the gun. At this point, she gets her throat ripped out, right? Mm hmm. Which dead? Which is just gushing blood and then he pops it like a Barbie. Oh, wait, what? Her head out. Yeah, her head does pop off, right? Yeah, he, yeah, it pulls it off. Yeah, and it goes flying. Mm hmm. And then at this point, Ted's like, no, my girlfriend. And he's already clawed. So he aims down with his 12-gauge shotgun, shoots it, and blasts the werewolves head off. It explodes. It's pretty awesome. And that's all you see? Yeah, you didn't like that when the werewolves head exploded. I thought that was pretty awesome. Mm, it's like a pumpkin getting smashed. There's just something so satisfying about it. I was like, I could watch that over and over again. Oh my gosh. That was cool. Yeah, so the fact here I have a fact, this jungle sequence sets a darker tone than most werewolf films. The attack is fast and brutal, establishing bad moon as a film that doesn't shy away from violence early on. So there's a quote after the attack, Ted, and disbelief whispers to himself, it's happening again. Mm hmm. At this scene? Yeah, I think he does. I didn't. It's happening. And it's that. So now we get back to the Pacific Northwest, on known, on named town. Yeah. Do you have your notes? Mm hmm. And then we see Brett. We meet Brett and Thor. Mm hmm. Yeah, they're outside in front of their house, right? On their driveway. They're on their driveway. Mm hmm. But they're kind of tucked in. So this looks very willingness. So this is where the scene kind of feels weird because it does not look residential. No. And they're like filthy rich and they can afford a house in the middle of nowhere. So this dude comes walking up and he's like, well, hello there. Trying to be all nice. And is this a scoping up the place? Yeah. He's casing it. He's looking like, this is a good opportunity. You know something's up, right? Immediate immediately Thor's like, what the fuck? What man? He's like coming up like, look if you buck, son. Yeah. And he makes a comment too. He's like, oh, you got a big dog. Yeah. And that was kind of his opportunity. You could kind of see his angle in. And then he's like, he goes to pethadog? No, because then Brett's mom comes down, Janet. And she's like, hey, how you doing? Who are you? Why are you talking to my kid? You weirdo? Right. And he's like, oh, I'm just, he says something. He's selling magazines of like the area and it has everything. This is where we get that it's in the Pacific Northwest. It's a, it's a regional magazine and it has everything you need to know about the area. Right. And he's like, you want to, you want to get a membership and blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's going on and she's like, no, thank you. Yeah. He's like, oh, that's a cute dog. And he goes to pethad it knowing that the dog's already kind of irritated with him. And then Thor lashes out on him, but doesn't bite him. He acts like the dog does. Well, he, he tantalizes the dog too though, because he's like, do you want to see it? Oh, yeah. And he lives in his suitcase purposely. And after she does not look interested in his magazines and he snaps the clips up and really loud. Yeah. And he's making direct eye contact with the dog. Triggering the dog. And he does that. The dog has a reaction. And Jan is trying to hold the dog back. And when she reaches down to get Thor to stay calm, the guy, he raises his arm again to kind of make it like a threat. Like he's going to attack. Yeah. That's when Thor jumps on him and pushes him back, which Thor is like a, they mention it. He's like a hundred pounds. Yeah. Dude, that dog is huge. Would you ever want a dog that says, I don't know. I think it'd be cool. But at the same time, you can never have a yard to tear the shit out of that man. It's consummated. Yeah. And he falls to the ground and he's like, oh my God, your dog, he bit me and she's like, really? Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I did. And she was like, posses and she's like, processing. Yeah. And he's like, well, you're going to hear from my lawyer or I'm going to go get a lawyer. I'm going to sue the pants off you. And she's like, Oh, really? Okay. She's under her thing. She's like, I'm a lawyer too. Here's my card. He can be dealing with me. She's like, how about you're on your feet. I'll take you to the doctor. Yeah. I'll take you to my family. Doctor. And we'll settle this out. He's like, no, I have a doctor. So pretty much she's pretty smart. She's been around the block. She could spot this guy mile away and was pretty much suited to take care of this punk. She also calls him out. She's like, I've heard enough of you flopsie. So it's no. Yeah. He's flopping. He's, he's faking it. And Brett's like, what is that? And she's like, it's a scammer. They go around. They put themselves in harm's way and then try to sue people for it. Like jump and run a car, get bit by dogs. So that's you, my friend, get a fuck out. And she's like, how about this break? Call the sheriff. Tell him it's me. Yeah. That was another thing. Yeah. Just tell the sheriff we have a little issue here. He'll come down straight in the shred out because like, gotta go. Yeah. And he's like, you'll be hearing from me. She's like, all right. Yeah. Sure. Go ahead. See you later. He's, she's like, I bet you don't want to hear from the sheriff. There's something doesn't she make that comment? Yeah. And so the guy leaves, he's all pissy throwing a fit about it. Yeah. So prior to getting to Janet's house, we do see there's like, we made a comment on this. So after this scene with Ted and the werewolf, there's like some random guy in the middle of the night measuring trees. So yeah, he, and this is weird. This is where like, yes, there's full moons every night and we have a pretty sure union workers going in the woods, measuring trees, what I'm assuming for the next night. It could be early morning and maybe he's getting a start. So people behind him are going to start cutting. It could be that. I know what we do live in the Pacific Northwest and sometimes the sun in the winter does not come up until what? And I don't know if it, and it looks like it's becoming fall because it's a little chilly. So it could be the case. It's just the sun isn't up yet. But anyways, this guy's walking around not really paying attention. And then all of a sudden he's measuring a tree, right? And then right above him, it's like alien style. Like he feels a couple of drips of like drool, I'm assuming. Yeah. And then all of a sudden the werewolf, Ted, picks him up. It just rushes his little head. That's right. With the helmet on, right? The hard hat? Yeah. That was cool. You like that? Yeah. So he's done for and then what do we, what do we see after that next day? Ted calls Janae and he's feeling very emotional. He's sounding, he's sounding like he's, you know, gonna, he's done. Yeah. He's very sad. He's going to nuke it up. What's this? And he's like, I love you. And she's like, we're like that. Like you were out of town under per, as far as you know, he's, he's still traveling outside of the country. Yeah. She didn't realize it. And she realized he was in town. And he's like, yeah. Like we can come home and visit. I've been here for three months. He's been in, in the state for three months. So she's like, all right. Yeah. We'll come and visit you. Yeah. And so they drive over. Apparently he's also in Washington. Yeah. And well, so originally and we'll cover it, I think, but they're from Chicago originally. Yeah. So he drives, she drives over and we see he's living in a very nice RV, but again, it's parked in the air stream. Yeah. It's parked in the middle of nowhere next to a lake and where was the vehicle that towed this thing? Yeah. What about the drainage and all that stuff? Like it's not set up at all. It's 1996. Let's do it, man. You got stinky poo poo in there. You got cock on. He's going and digging a hole in the woods. Oh, I'm assuming probably. So yeah, he's like, you need to come visit me. I'm really stressed out. Yeah. So they show up and they're like, oh my God, I love you when I missed you so much and they're mingling. And right off the bat though, Thor is jumping out and he goes straight to the spot, sniffing around and Ted gets nervous. He's looking over there because he doesn't want Thor to find the dead bodies because there's multiple, but we don't know that yet. We know there's only one, but we're going to know later that there's multiple. Yeah. And so Ted and Janet, they're cooking. And this word, Janet says that, you know, ever since they moved from Chicago, it was a good move, but Brad doesn't have a lot of friends yet. Just a second. It's not a full moon every night, is it? No, it just, throw the movie and just notice that it happens occasionally. A full moon? It's even references that, oh, werewolves, that's a myth, it just doesn't happen on full moons. It happens every night. Yeah. So they're cooking. Yeah. And so this is where we learned that they moved from Chicago. And while they're outside of cooking, and she's mentioned that Brad has had a hard time like making friends where they are, but it's a lot safer, they're in the middle of nowhere. It's nice to have peace and quiet. Yeah. It's a lot cheaper to live here. There's a lot of benefits that outweigh the cons. Yeah, and Ted has like another emotional speech and tells her that she's so, he's so proud of her, she's doing a really good double racing breath. And it's just amazing. And he's just been struggling a lot. And she's like, yeah, what happened to your girlfriend? And he's like, oh, she's a, she's traveling and it's just me now. Meanwhile. Yeah, he doesn't admit she got slaughtered, but later, and I keep, sorry, I jumped ahead. You're spoiling everything, man. Fine. I won't spoil it. Wait, if I can turn. Okay. Almingita. In the meantime, Brad's inside by himself just exploring through, through the RV. He's just taking pictures, looking around. Yeah. And then he opens what behind this curtain. He's like, oh, sweet. And he looked at this like laboratory, it looks like it's a lab. Yeah, there's like a microscope, blood samples. And then there's this big, thick book, and he takes the book down and it's about werewolves. Mm-hmm. And he's like, whoa, this is cool. Just looking at the pictures. He finds one in particular, it's kind of like savage. Yeah. And in the meantime, Thor never came inside. Thor has been outside the woods and sniffing around. Yeah. He knows something's up, dude. He could smell it. Yeah. And then he eventually, we see that he does make it to a tree and he looks up and there's like body pieces. I'm assuming from the, from the guy from the forest right there that he crashed. Yeah. And the dog's on a high alert at this moment. Oh, yeah. And playing that this dog is super intelligent, hyper intelligent. So he comes back and finds Brent and he's like, buddy. And then Jon and Ted come back inside and this is where you get their first like standoff. Ted comes inside and he's like, oh my God, it's Thor. Come here, buddy. And Thor is very standoffish. He doesn't want to get close. Well now, because when they first came, Thor ran up to him, was happy to see him. He's like, yes, what's up? And then after the body and saying like you're saying, now he tries to get him again and now he's skittish. He's like, oh, I don't want to go near you. Yeah. And Jon is, she's like, oh, you know, Thor, he's just really, really protective of us. Yeah. And then type throughout the movie, he makes little comments here and there. He's like, oh, he's like a, an old dog knows when he sees one. Yeah. Recognizing that he also has one. Yeah. One old dog to another. Like, you know, I'm not going to tune that he's a, he's another monster. Yeah, exactly. And then Ted is like, all right guys, well, thanks for coming over. It was good seeing you. It's getting late. Get the fuck out of here. And they're like, well, really, like you're rushing us off and he's like, yeah, yeah, it's fine. Just, it's fine. It was really good to see you. And so they go home, Janet and Brett. She gets home and then Ted calls her again, all emotional because I think you're saying he's done and he's just really glad they came over and went the law. I'm just so happy you came over family is all I got. Yeah. It's like, are you okay? Yeah. And he's like, yeah, it's fine. And then you see outside the lake by his RV and as a shit ton of cops, the whole police force in that town came and they're investigating those dead bodies, but he doesn't say this. No. He's just like, everything's fine. And she's like, dude, just coming over and business for a few days. Yeah. He's like, she's like, I'm not taking over an answer. You're going to come down. You're going to park your trail in my backyard, things are going to be good. You're going to stay for a while. Yeah. And so he's like, all right. No, he does drive over, which I was surprised. I mean, how do you drive over though, because we don't see his, he doesn't have a vehicle. Magic, man. It's fucking amazing. He turned into a war wolf and he carried the fucking thing over. I just don't understand. They could have followed up with, I don't know. I don't know. But he does park next to her house, like in the backyard. And she doesn't say the RV with him talking to him, and she's like, it's, I'm so happy you're here. It's a good thing. Yeah. Thor's in there. He's niffing the entire place. Like, I'm checking you out. And he's not really high alarm just yet, but he knows something's up. Yeah. And she's like, why don't you come on over for dinner? And he's like, no, I'm going to go run all night long. Do you say on that long? No, he's like, I'm just going to go for a run. But like, that's what happened. Well, yeah. And so he does, and this is one of those first trips. Thor isn't on a high alert just yet, though, right? He does get skittish. He goes back home and he just sits at the window. He sits at the window and he starts barking. Like he wants to go out. And she's like, Jesus, Thor. All right, I'm going to let you outside. He takes off running. And follows the set. Yeah. Follow and figures out where Ted's at. And now this is where we kind of see that first. We don't really see much, right? No, you do. You do see the werewolf? Mm-hmm. Because-- And Thor's barking like a motherfucker. He's like, dude, motherfucker. No. He's staying very quiet at first. Is he? Yeah. He walks up, sees Ted as a werewolf. Yeah. To the tree. And he kind of backs up. Yeah. He's very, very quiet. And so he quietly walks up there. He gets very close. And they make, I contact, they acknowledge each other and the wolf just like growls at it. Thor barks and Janet's coming out into the woods because it's been late and Thor didn't come back. So she's looking for him. And Thor being as smart as he is in this movie, he's like, oh shit. And runs back to her so she doesn't come see the werewolf. Yeah. He's still like, he wants to be there and he wants to like, shoot this thing off. He's protective. So he's ready to fight this werewolf. But he doesn't get his chance here. They go inside. He still acts pretty skittish. What it sounds like. He was barking all night. Yeah. And so the next day, Janet's making breakfast for a brat. And-- Ted comes in, right? Thor's just sitting. Oh yeah. Watching the fucking army. The trailer. And he does this. This will be a continued thing. He's just staring at this trailer. And this is one Thor. Eventually they let him out for a bit. And he pees on the tire. He does. And then he comes back. He's like, this is dominant stock. And they're watching the new-- Janet has the news going while she's making breakfast. And this is where she learns about all the bodies that they found and the woods by word Ted was. And she's mortified. She's like, what? You didn't tell me this, Ted? Yeah. She if I can, she's like, dude, what the fuck. And he's like, oh yeah, I didn't know and he tries to brush it off. And pretends like nothing happened. Yeah. He's like, no. That's OK. And like, because they're saying on the news that a large animal was mowing everybody. Yeah. They found five people so far. And he's like, oh, well, since there's all of this going on, he's like, can I stay here until they clear out the curfew? Because there's a curfew now. Well, he's like, I guess I got to stay here longer. Yeah. And so he's there. They're going to have breakfast. And this is where Brett is watching a werewolf movie. And Ted is next to him, and he's watching the movie with him. And he laughs. And he's like, oh, he's like, that's ridiculous. He's like a full moon. Yeah. And Brett's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. He's like, why? Why does that have to be a full moon? He's like, why can't it be any moon? And Brett's like, doing the stereotype, oh, you know, you need to seal your bullet and blah, blah, blah. And Brett and Ted is like, well, what have you shoot it in the face? Because that's what he did to the werewolf description. Yeah. Well, his head off. And I'm like, whoa, is Janet listening to this conversation? Yeah. And even Brett's like, well, how do you know? He's like, where was it not real? Have you ever met one? And then Janet makes a comment that she heard Thor barking all night long. Yeah. And then so here I did. I do have a note that the movie that Brett's actually watching, it's the werewolf in London than 1935. And yeah. Yeah, so he does, he mentions he's like, yeah, full moons are bullshit. It happened every night, but he does say something here that he's carrying. So he tells Janet, you know, like maybe don't let Brett go out into the woods at night. He could be dangerous. Like there's a curfew where I was parked and like, there's like, he really thinks that animal could travel this far 200 miles. Yeah. And he's kind of vague, but at the same time he's kind of serious. He's like, dude, just listen to me. He's like, what about gray wolves? They were like 200 pounds. Yeah. Well, she's like, I got Thor. He's on her pounds. He's like, well, gray wolves, like 200 pounds. And then he's like, you know what? Just because there's no animals right now that can harm you doesn't mean they weren't here. And we'll be here. Yeah. And that's the end of that conversation. Yeah. And she's like, whoa, that's weird. Ted goes home and then we're assuming that sometime later he comes out again and his, he has his running outfit, his great sweatpants and then great crew neck sweater and he has the handcuffs in his hand and he walks out and Thor's sitting outside. Did you mention the handcuffs? I think he did when they first, he first got here and she chuckled, Janet did. She's like, oh, you're kinky, whatever you're, whatever you're into. So they kind of do this like staring back and forth and Ted goes inside to wait and see Thor will go away and he does. So yeah, Thor is sitting outside this RV all day and Ted just keeps looking out the window. Okay. I got to go. Finally, it's getting to the point where it's getting like dusk and it started to get dark. So Ted now just gets out and he calls Johnny, he's like, dude, come get your fucking dog. Yeah. I'm going to go on a run. Go get your dog. Yeah. And Johnny calls Thor inside. So then Ted takes off and then as soon as Ted leaves, Thor started freaking out and he's barking. Brad doesn't know what just happened. So he's like, oh buddy, you want to go outside and he lets him out. Yeah. And this is where we see Thor goes out again, fucking chasing him. Bolt. Yeah. And we just see pieces of clothing from, from Ted like he left on, on a trail. Well, and he left in a hurry like cause it was late. So he just had to strip his clothes off or running and cause it made it look like he was starting to transform. Yeah. And then back at Janet's house, you hear like growling and they always give you this angle of the camera when it's Thor's point of view and then sometimes the werewolf. So you get like an outside look towards the house and there's some lights. And so Janet, here's a nose and she turns off what looks like emergency lights cause they're really, really bright. Yeah. And then she finds Thor outside. They have a face off here cause I have my notes that she finds Thor and he has blood on him. It's time and they do have a face off and yeah, Thor kind of gets beat up. He has blood all over him. He runs to Janet and Janet's like, whoa, Thor, what happened? What happened? You dude? And she's cleaning him up and at this time that what they call him flopsie, we'll just call him flopsie. Well, not yet. That's a little bit farther down. No, because this is when he gets hurt cause this sets up because flopsie comes because this is how Thor gets taken away cause that's when he gets hurt. Remember because now flopsie gets killed and mauled. I know that's the next day though. So then they haven't had the interaction yet cause that was kind of the first time they had the interaction, right? No prior to that, so Thor comes back and he has blood. She calls the sheriff and remember he Thor goes inside and sits on top of bread like being protective on his bed? Yes. And that's the end of that scene. And so Jenna goes to check on Ted cause she's a little worried and that's where she walks inside his RV and he's not there. And he's not there. She starts kind of going through his stuff and she finds pictures of him and Marjorie. And she's like, oh Ted, you're not an ambassador through them. Yeah. And then it's brutal pictures, so who takes a picture of that but it was his dead girlfriend just mauled. Was it her or I was wondering the question maybe with other victims that he's had? No, that was his dead girlfriend. And then well, it could have been other victims, but she keeps flipping and flipping. So it was probably other victims too, but the first one that we do see is his girlfriend. Okay. Yeah, you just see her face, she looks mortified as she's flipping through the other pictures. And then she finds what seems to be his diary that he's keeping. And then on the last page, he again, he was very emotional and he writes in there that he's done like blood tests, he's visited doctors, so he's been trying to work on this thing. Yeah, the diary is kind of going day by day. He's like day three or whatever, October 15th. But the time he was, she was done flipping through it sounds like he's been a few years. So they weren't from like '93, '94, '95, were the years for some of the entries that she was reading. And I was like, holy crap, it's been years. Has it? I don't know. Maybe I missed that, but I only thought it was a matter of a few months, but he's to the point where he's exhausted, everything is like maybe a family. Maybe if I spend time with a family that this can kind of cure my ailment, what's happening. Yeah, and so he thinks family love is what's going to make it all better. It's his last ditch effort, essentially. Yeah, she walks out, she's freaked out by everything that she found. And she goes back home and this is where we see flopsie around her house. And he, this fucking guy, goes up to the dog house with a butcher knife. And a piece of meat. Yeah. And he's like, nobody makes me look like a fool. Lo and behold, fucking werewolf is there. Yeah, because he's calling Thor, he's like, come here, doggy, come here. And then he's like, ah, behind me and turns around and he's like, what the fuck is this giant werewolf? And then he gets his throat gassed, right? And his hand, like all mingled. Oh, dude, yes, fingers get chopped off that was tight or sliced off, I guess. So the next day, the sheriff comes over finally, so she called him the night before. And she's like, dude, if I can take you forever. And he's like, have you, you know, the man on this picture? And she's like, it's the guy that you, you reported the flopsie dude. She was like, yeah, and he's like, we find him dead at the end of the road close to your house. Yeah, I'm a highway right over the main road. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, remember you that he remembers, you know, the sheriff that she mentioned that the last time he was around, like the guy accused Thor of biting him. He's like, do you think like your dog could have done this? And Jenna was like, I think Thor got in a fight with something like again, like she mentioned he had blood on him and he has cuts all over himself. And she's like, hey, do you know anything about all the dead hikers, like on the other area? And I was like, yeah, they got mauled by something. Yeah. She's like, was it possible that it was a human? And he's like, no, man, that's the, there's no way that that was a person. But he's kind of implying that Thor could do that and the dead guy, the flopsie dude. And I don't believe Thor or any dog could do that level. I mean, sure they can. But do you really think that this was a level of attack that was? Well, he said, you know, Thor is really protective of you and maybe he could have. Yeah. And he's like, once a dog gets a taste for blood, they don't stop. Mm hmm. So she did let Thor out after this because the sheriff leaves. He just came and told her that they found his guy dead. Yeah. And Thor heads directly to the RV and then Ted comes out and Jenna goes up and he's like, she's like, hey, dude, like where were you? I came looking for you and he's like, oh, I was, I was running. And she was suspicious already anyways because that's why she asked the sheriff if a human could have done it because her brother was gone all night. Yeah. And she's like, did you see anything? Did you hear anything weird? And he's like, no, but then he looks at friggin Thor and wings and Thor attacks him. And he bites his arms and he's like bleeding a ton. And Jenna's like fighting to hold back Thor and takes him back home. Yeah. Exactly. And it looks like ours went by. And he did that on purpose too to finally push her over the edge and get rid of the dog. Yeah. So next thing you know, animal control is there taking Thor and you have a fun fact on this. Yeah. So the, the people that play the animal control, they're actually primos real trainers. Yeah. Which is cool. Yeah. But at this point, Brett's crying. He's like, no, my dog. And all of a sudden you see Ted walk out and he's got a smirk on his face and he just waves. He's like, bye, bitch. He's an arm over Jenn. I like, oh, I want this one. Yeah. And Thor's just going fucking berserk. Dude. He's like, you motherfucker. He's just going hard. Jenna doesn't really like fully fucking buy it. She had this look on her face like, bitch. Yeah. He's like, dude, and she can sell something's off. I don't think she fully believes Thor did that, but there's no way of proving it. And so unfortunately. They take action. Yeah. We got to get rid of the dog, which kind of sucks because he's going to be sent away to be put down. That's what they do to those dogs. Jesus. So we do see if I can tell it goes over to the dog house. He pees all over it doing it back. Display is dominant. Yeah. That was a funny part. Now, does the dinner scene happen here? And this is the weird scene. So they're all having dinner. They're quiet. Brett's clearly still upset. Oh, yeah. Jenn, it's quiet. They're all just quiet. They're weird. It's awkward. And then Janet leaves to grab their eating dessert, and Janet leaves to go grab something, I think. And then Ted is like, Hey, Brett, come here. And Brett's hesitant. He doesn't, he's fucking, he's sad and doesn't really want to interact. And he's like, come here, like he gets aggressive. Like it was weird, you know, and even Brett was like, Oh, fuck. This is fucking weird. So he kind of walks over there nervously. Yeah. He sits on his lap and Ted makes him sit on his lap. And what's he telling? He's like, there will be other animals in your life. Yeah. And he's like, all right. And Janet comes in and she's like, Brett, go to bed now. Yeah. She knows she sees something fucking weird happening. She's like, Hey man, it's time for her to go. And then she exchanges some stuff with Ted, right? Confronts him. And she asks, she's like, Can you be honest with me? He's like, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's in Seattle. That's when she knew because she was testing if he was going to lie or not. Yeah, she's in Seattle, but she's seen that picture of the mauling. So she just knew now something's up. Yeah. And this is where we see another full moon. Another full moon. Janet watches him take off and run. This time she's ready. And she's got her gear on to like jeans. She's ready to go. She's got clothes on. She's ready to run out there. And she does. She's falling right behind him at this point. But right before that, you see Brett sneak out his window. He's like, I'm going to save you Thor. I'm going to come get you buddy. And he jumps out the window, gets on his bike, starts hauling ass to the, essentially dog pound, right? Yeah. Watch. This is a bougie as dog pound by the way, man. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then Janet, before she heads up to follow Ted, she reaches above in the kitchen and grabs a gun and she looks at it and she's like thinking about it. And she's like, You're crazy. I'm not taking this. Cause she's not believing it. She's not believing that Ted, like, there's part of her that wants like, this is my brother. You're fucking crazy. You're not going to shoot this guy. Mm hmm. So she puts it back. So she just got a flashlight and follows. She goes into the woods and then we have this back and forth. You see, he's riding his bike into town. He arrives at the pound and he's, she has like a pliers trying to break open the team. Yeah. He can't do it. Yeah. It was kind of cute. And then the lights go off, but no employee comes out or anything. Just this lights fill off automatically. It's a, it's a motion light and all the dog star barking and he jumps the fence and he's calling for the door. He's like, Thor, worry, worry. Yeah, dude. And he looks around and he finally finds them, lets them out and they run to the gate. Thor immediately is like, I can't get out, can't get out, but Thor smart enough and crafty enough. There's a truck right there. He's on the bed of the truck to the top of the truck and then jumps over the fence. Adorable. Yeah. I was like, damn, Thor, you got the fucking hops dog. And then, and then Brett, he comes to the fence too, gets back over and, but at this time Thor has taken off running. He's not waiting for Brett. He's taken off. He knows. It's going down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going down. He knows the werewolf comes out overnight. He's booking it to go that werewolf. And then Brett is right behind him riding his bike, trying to get back. He's calling for him like, hey man, come back. Yeah. So Janet's off in the woods and she sees Ted with handcuffs on a tree and he's talking to the tree or himself or fucking something. He's talking to himself. He's like, I don't want to hurt anybody, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And he hears noise and he immediately knows he's like, Janet, you fucking dumb bitch. Well, he's like, I can smell you. Yeah. And she comes out and he's like, are you playing fucking detective? Yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. What's he calling? Nancy Drew. Yeah. He's like, well, I was about to restrain myself, but you're here now. So it's kind of like, I'm pointless. And then he's, you know, he starts turning. This is where you see some of the transformation happening. His voice is getting deeper. Yeah. His thing. And he's looking weird. His eyes are turning werewolfish and he's still doing his dialogue. Said he thought family could save him, you know, but he was wrong. Essentially too. He's churning. He's like, you know what? I've come to terms. I'm accepting this. Yeah. And the other thing he's like. This is who I am. The dog was trying to warn you. He's trying to tell you. He's like, you send it to the button. I'm like, bro, you fucking made the dog go to the ground. He was, is like assisted in that. Yeah. I was like, that was like, yeah. So, so at this time, because we're cruising fast here, he's like, you have to go and play if I can be a sister. But at this time, so this is where you see he's now kind of slipping away from Ted. I think he's more. Wolf? Yeah. He's more primal. Essentially, do you think his true colors are coming out? Like, he's not hiding anymore. Like, he's just, I'll kill you and everybody. I think like he's letting the monster, like the monster's kicking in. And take a hold of him. He's not the family, you know, like the breath the human is leaving. Yeah, he's got urges. So you don't think that was him, like, as the brother? No, I think. No, because when like he, you can see there's moments of him being caring, like when he's telling him to. Because he is still trying to chain himself up. Yeah. So that was, you know, a lot of trouble that he's going through and turning himself up. And then he did warn Janet about letting Brett out of a night and going into the woods. And what if those animals troubled this way and there's something to Brett? So I think it was like an internal battle between the both. But yeah, he's like, dude, like, you should have listened to the dog. He's like, and then I use his cuffs. You know, as they're explaining that he uses the handcuffs to keep him from going and harming anyone. He's like, but can't keep the secret anymore. And then you see a full tran, like wolf transformation take place. Yeah. And so he turns, you know, starts with a phase and then his whole body, like the arms kick in. They fill up and he's like slowly, so it's like a mix of CGI. Well, the, yeah, the technology at the time, the graphics at the time, and they, and this is where like, if you remember earlier, the budget didn't allow for a cool transformation. So this one is kind of schlocky. They could've done way better with this, but they didn't. Yeah, that would have sent this movie over the top. It wouldn't have been cool. But at this point, Janet is freaking the fuck out. And she fucking starts running home and he starts chasing her. She gets home. She finds the gun and grabs it. And while she's trying to load up the gun, the werewolf breaks into the house through the window. Yeah. And attacks her and she runs upstairs and she goes into bread's room and just now realizes that bread's not well, it's not just now realizing because she was watching Ted earlier. So she probably put him to bed and then he just immediately got closed on and jumped out the window. That was what I'm saying. This is the first time that she's, that she's finding out and she's like, what the fuck where's my kid at? Yeah, and so Thor, or not Thor, but fucking Ted breaks through the door. Yeah. Throws her around like a rag doll. She eventually, well, she runs upstairs because they have their scene in the living room. That's when she runs upstairs to protect her son, who isn't there. And then the door's getting beat down and the door breaks open. And this is where Thor comes in, dude. He comes through the window. He senses trouble. He jumps through the window, runs upstairs. And then all of a sudden, because she can't get the gun or whatever, something's happening with that. I think she drops her something. She gets thrown around like you're saying. And then Thor jumps on the wolf's back, Ted's back and they start like scuffling, right? Yeah. He's ripping patches off the werewolf. He's just going hard and the werewolf is throwing him around, but Thor is not giving up. He just keeps attacking, attacking, attacking, right? Again, and at this point too, Brett comes in. Yeah, he's like, "Whoa, what's going on?" And then-- So he grabs him with a fucking neck. Yeah, and picks him up. And again, Thor makes his effort, right? Well, before this, Jenna shoots Ted finally. She gets the gun loaded and she shoots him repeatedly. And Ted's, if I could snarling at her and he's wounded at the same time. And then yeah, so this is when Thor jumps on him and they both fall out the window. Yeah, they both fall out and they're laying there. And man, they're bolt down and out, especially Thor. He's looking, he's like, "Fuck." And just laying there. And then all of a sudden the werewolf starts moving, getting up, and Thor is just laying there. He's like, "Dude, I don't know if I got any more left in me than this poor dog." But essentially, the werewolf scurries off, runs away, and then Thor finally gets up and then he takes off after him. At this point, it starts to become daylight, and Ted is starting to transform back into Ted from the werewolf. And then so he's kind of getting his senses back, and he's all bloody and he's a mess. And you could see just, yeah, where Thor was tearing flesh out. And then this is where, now Thor creeps up behind him, he's growling. And Ted's kind of there, he's like, "Ah, he's like finished me. Do it, Thor." And then he, and then it just shows Thor, pause for a moment, jump, attack, but they don't show the attack. But you just, pretty much, Thor kills him. That is seen in the movie. That was, because actually that does show Ted Cares still, and he's like, "Fuck, dude, I'm gonna hurt my family and just kill me now. This is fucked up," which, in reality, nobody's really a bad guy in this movie. I think that's the werewolf movies in general, until they eventually kind of become consumed by it. Yeah, because he didn't ask for it. That was a fucking just shitty ass situation, where he got scared to know he has this course on him. Yeah, it's like AIDS, you know? Or herpes. What the fuck? I like a parrot thing. Oh my god, Richard. Sorry. Oh, but yeah, so Thor takes them out, and then he comes back to Janet and Brett. Let me see, there's very nice people painting the house. Yeah, fixing the window. And Thor's happy. Yeah, and Janet is like, "Oh my god, Thor, what little buddy are you here, are you saved us?" Yeah. And Thor lifts his head up, and he fucking snarls, and he looks like a werewolf. Yeah, that's all right. Oh, because she's kind of daydreaming. She's having a nightmare, yeah, and she wakes up, and it's just her and the dog, and Brett. Yeah, and Thor's chilling, he's happy. And that is the end of the movie. Geez, we powered through that, champ. Yeah, you know, just... It goes fast. It's a fast-paced movie. There's not a whole lot to it. It's really meat and potatoes kind of thing. But you know what? It is good. That's what's great about the story. There isn't no extra fluff that, you know, where we don't need extra breakdowns and stuff. It's just kind of there. Werewolf Thor family. Love. Yeah, exactly. The end. The end. So now, after our at-length discussion, has your thoughts and opinions changed on this movie? No. Oh my God. Wow. Okay. Wow. Everybody has a right to their own opinion, I give it. Oh, I shrink, you shrink, you. Mine somehow have created more love. One of us has too. You love it enough for the both of us, okay? I do. Okay. So with that, I'm not sure I even want to ask you now, but what do you rate this movie? Oh. Go ahead, be honest. Be honest. Rip my fucking heart out. Like a 1.5. Dang, dude. Would you rate leprechaun? A 3.5? No, you did. Get the fuck out of here. A 3. Are you? You're rated a 3, leprechaun? Are 2.5. Maybe. I think it's a 2.5. You're giving this on a 1.5. I am giving this on a 1.5. Wow. I'm sorry. I just want to love it. It's okay. So I'm giving this one a 3.5. What? You said you were going to give it a 5. I was kidding with you. I give it a 3.5 because the budget, they could have done so much more. The werewolf transformation didn't really hold up. The studio didn't back this movie like they should have and it could have been way, way better movie to where Angeles would have gave this a 4, but it was a little lackluster. And so that's what what we got. So I give it a 3.5. I enjoy the story. I enjoy the different take on the werewolf. It's not just a man, a beast struggling and then a woman looking out for the bad boy that can't help his transformation. You know what I mean? It's about our dog sticking up for his family. Yeah, man. I like it. What was your favorite kill? I was thinking about that. Flopsied died. The tree measure died. Marjorie died. Yeah. Ted. With the werewolf. So I would say Marjorie. You would. I would say the first werewolf when his head gets blown off. That was my favorite. That was cool. Or my second favorite was when the tree guy gets his head chomped on. Smashed. That was fucking awesome too. Smashed. Smashed. Smashed. That would have been an entertaining movie. Oh my god. Hulking into werewolf. Mano. Amano. Yeah. So that uh. So yeah. No, that's good. You gave it a 1.5. I gave it a 3.5. What else do I usually ask your ass? Favorite kill. We already did. You said your favorite kill. Yeah. Reviews. Yeah. Should we go to Vienna's review corner? She's showing up to it. Should we go to the review corner? Okay. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. Alright. We are back. I'm excited this week we've got Vienna's review corner. Sorry for last week. Like we said, we were a little busy. Plans happened. But welcome back, Vienna. How are you? Hi. I'm good. You're good? You had the day off today. That was awesome. What did you do? Did you do anything fun? No. Did you like the haunted house? No. No. Okay. I didn't get scared. Teenagers, man. I'm kidding. Well, that's good. Well, thank you for joining us. For the reviews, what do you have? Did you watch this movie? No. You didn't watch it all? No. Okay. But you were able to look up some reviews? Yeah. Okay. Well, let them rip. Two and a half stars. Excellent werewolf effects and a well-trained dog go a long way. The last 10 minutes of this film are truly a blast. I agree. I agree. I like the last 10 minutes to take the one. Someone gave it four stars and said, simple and effective with really great acting and short and to the point. Okay. Kind of like that review. [laughter] Someone gave it four stars and a heart and said, "Hey, dude. Did you finish the transformation sequence?" Okay. And then it says, "Give me a sec." Exactly. That's why I have it. That's perfect. Someone gave it four stars and a heart and said, "They put so much into that weird dog effect for it to barely have a second of screen time." I know they did too. Someone gave it two stars and said, "Maybe if the other actors in this movie had been as talented as a dog, they could have called this good moon." Oh, really? Good moon. Wow. Someone gave it one star and said, "The actor dog looked so scared the entire time that I suspect he was not treated the best. This shiny movie made no sense, I love it." Get out of here. That dog was probably treated royalty. Someone gave it one star and said, "Bad moon, bad werewolf, bad plot, bad movie." Dang. Did angels write that? No. [laughter] Someone gave it four and a half stars and said, "The best bad movie I've ever seen. Thor is the realest motherfucker I've ever seen." True dad. True dad. What's up? Someone gave it five stars and a heart and said, "My favorite werewolf movie of all time." Ooh, wee. Is that you, Richard? No, but it's close. What's your favorite werewolf movie? I would have to say American werewolf London because when I was a kid and I watched that transformation, I was horrified and it was scary, but at the same time, I'm like, "This is fucking awesome." That was the first time really seeing a monster transformation that fucking rocked. Yeah, that's a cool story. I know. She's a cool story boomer. I'm like, "I'm a boomer." You're a little millennial. [laughter] Yeah, I can tell that was the most millennial thing ever. Oh my god. What do you call the alphas, sigmas? What? [laughter] No. What is it? What? What do you call alphas when they act like an alpha male? Is that a sigma? What? [laughter] You know what I'm talking about. So I would give it three stars and said endearingly cheesy. No, I think you just do that. No, I heard you said it because I was explaining something to you. Someone gave it three stars and said, "I wouldn't say this is criminally underrated, but damn, more people should probably talk about it." I didn't write that, but I'd agree with him. Whoa. Someone gave it two stars and said, "So blend and uneventful that it forced me into some kind of temporal, fugue state floating through a mist of fangs and fur, unmoored from any rational casuality, hungering for the sweet release of net gore." Wow. That's very passionate. You know what? I love that this movie incited some sort of emotion like that. That means it had some sort of effect on them. So sweet rocks. Someone gave it two and a half stars and said werewolf movie for white woman. I don't understand that. I don't know. Is that what it is? I don't know. It's fucking square jawline. For white woman. What does that mean? He is ripped though. Is he? No, then it would just say woman. Yeah. He's all mean. Mustular. But it's slim. I think it meant like bland. It's like target. Target is not bland. It is. [laughter] Move on. Three stars and not hurt and said, "That dog should have won an Oscar. He should have." Dude, seriously. Do you have anything else? What movie next week? That's a good question. The ring? The ring. The ring baby and that will be an anniversary, right? Yeah. Samara. 20 years. You guys should name Chacho Samara. No. I will never name my baby Trunty till that. [laughter] Your baby Trunty just is going to be fucking ugly. You're just kidding. Oh my gosh. It will be an angel to me. To you. Oh, I have something to show you later. Okay. It will be because it's anniversary with October 18th at release date. Ooh, wee. That'll be good. It's going to be 22 years. What are we doing this upcoming week? Sleeping and then working and then sleeping and then working again. Oh. Iron Maiden. Iron, Iron Maiden, baby. Who went to Iron Maiden like a week ago? Fred Alvarez. Hell yeah, dude. So we got something common with him. One of our favorite directors. I'm sorry it was like I might get it right next. Shout out. Scary wood. So is he on the state side? I don't know. Yeah. That's that. Federico Alvarez. Yeah. Put some respect on his name. And then we're... Yeah. You mentioned Silverwood. Scary wood. We're taking a full crew man. That's going to be fun. There's like... Let's see Orlando, Madison, you, Vienna, Wheaties and your... Leslie and Andy potentially his girlfriend. Oh. Okay. Yes. That's a full entourage right there. Is Leslie not coming? They said Leslie. Oh. Why didn't you? That would be pretty fun for you guys. Are they all going in their own car then? I don't know. We're going to figure it out when they get here. That would be exciting for you guys. I'm so happy for you. Richard is stitching us. Dude, that's a lot of people. What? What about it? That's a lot of people. You don't have to all be together man. Don't like it in me like that. Bit. Don't like it in me a little monkey. Puppet? Monkey? Puppet? Don't mean me to me. What? Oh my God. We just heard Richard's famous line. Don't mean me to me. Do it again. Don't mean me to me. Well anyways guys, let's wrap it up. A little bit of business. We do have a giveaway going. It's going until the 18th. So it's called Rob Zombie Palooza. And we're giving away. What are we giving away? A double feature blue ray and a popfunko of Mr. Robert Zombie. Himself. So you haven't until the 18th to get in your entries. And then we'll announce it on Friday. Oh well, now it's on Saturday. On the 19th. Yeah, the next thing. Cool. So yeah, put your entries in guys. We're having a pretty good. We're having a pretty good turnout already on it. So and this is Angel. This is baby. I'm letting her like take it. Take it the ball and run in with it. And I'm pretty proud of you kid. Oh, Shanks, Shanks boss. And then also obsession bites episode coming out Wednesday. Listen to it. It's all about werewolves. I cover everything from Team Jacob to American werewolf in London. Team Jacob. Yep. I covered it all. So give it a listen. I hope you guys like that. If you guys give me feedback on the stuff, man, I'd like to hear from you. Good or bad. You just want to make entertainment that you guys enjoy listening to. So yeah. Do you want the critics ratings for the movie or no? Yeah, we got some time. You want to do that? IMTV gave it a 5.8 out of 10. Brought in tomatoes 30% litter box three out of five. And Google users 81%. Pretty good. Nice. So was this in pretty favorable then? The critics were and like I said, IMTV is 5.8 out of 10. Everyone else was 30% and 30%. So the viewers are favorable. A little bit more. 81%. Yeah. Okay. Pretty favorable. Do you have anything else you want to cover? Please hit up our red bubble store. We're called Horco on there. It's a whole work company. Get down there. We have stickers. We have shirts. Great decals. Angels did an awesome sticker for what it was at the day of the dead. Mm-hmm. The other Los Muertos. Hell yeah. And it looks really cool. Guys buy a sticker. We love it. But yeah. Other than that, we'll let you go. Well thank you. Hosta. You screwed it up, dude. Sorry. Okay. Here we go. Hosta. Let's go see. I'm sorry. Thanks for listening to Horror Cinema Obsession. We hope you had as much fun as we did. If so, help spread the word by leaving a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts. And join us next time for another episode of Horror Cinema Obsession. [Music] [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]
This week, Richard and Angeles sink their teeth into Bad Moon (1996)—a criminally underrated werewolf flick that packs family drama, lunar horror, and one of the most heroic dogs in horror history.
We break down this lean, mean 79-minute werewolf machine scene by scene, from its wild jungle-set opener to the blood-splattered backyard finale. With practical effects, intense performances, and a surprising emotional core, Bad Moon proves that not all ‘90s horror went straight to the dogs.
🐺 In this episode:
Full breakdown of Bad Moon (1996)
The mythology and lore of lycanthropy in film
Michael Paré’s tortured transformation and Mariel Hemingway’s grounded performance
Why Thor the dog might be the best “final boy” in horror
Viana’s Review Corner – Her take on canine loyalty and werewolf guilt
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