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Greed Ruins Films
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Got some news for you, got some topics to discuss, and movies to talk about. The usual one of your hosts, The Bible, just want to try it your other host, try it how you do it. Hello, I'm doing great, excited as always, yep, for movie chronicles, yep. Got some topics, not as much as I was expecting, kind of being off two weeks, but yeah, it's kind of been, yeah, got some stuff. Yeah, there's that trailer that dropped today with Millie Bobby Brown and Chris Pratt, in the new Russo brothers movie, The Electric State, it's coming out on Netflix, March 14th. Yeah, I briefly saw it, I didn't watch the trailer. Yeah, I didn't watch the full trailer, I've watched snippets of it, but yeah, okay. Interesting, I think the Russo brothers have done a couple movies for Netflix as a recent, and I don't think they've been very good if I can remember, but yeah, I don't know, it'd be interesting. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, interesting. Yeah, looks like an interesting movie, I don't really know much about it, but. Okay, yeah, do you know what it's about? Something about like a robot that they find that's, I think they go on a journey with the robot, and I think Millie Bobby Brown is trying to find her brother or something. Okay. Yeah, kind of weird. Yeah, a lot of things about robots as of late, Elon Musk and his eye robots that's gonna be there to serve you to follow the rules of robotics until those rules are broken or till they're conflict with the interest of humans and take over the world. Yep, but in all honesty, what Elon Musk unveiled, like with the van and the Tesla cab and the Optimus robots or whatever, it's pretty cool, okay, yeah, I can say what you will, I mean, however, I've seen a lot of sci-fi movies, I know where this could lead, but yeah, those movies, right. Yeah, it's crazy. Yep, it's just funny, like have you seen the pictures, like they look, it looks exactly like a robot, even the van and the car and then the robots, I don't know what, apparently the, I saw an article, I don't know if it was legit, but apparently the, the director of eye robot was like mad that Elon Musk or like claim that Elon Musk stole his designs from my robot. That's funny, I don't know, it's kind of weird, but I mean, they do look similar, that's a movie, I haven't seen a while that I would love to see. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh, how far will Smith has fallen? Yeah, there was something that, I saw something that said that all the, all the Optimus robots were just being controlled by people at computers. Oh yeah. It's just like the Amazon stores where you walk into the store and you get your stuff and you leave. That actually was found out that it was just people in India watching you shop and just kept track of what you grabbed and what you put away. Right. It wasn't technology, it's just people watching you watching now. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting because like the, like when they're interacting and talking to the robots, it's kind of, it's, it doesn't seem like AI, it seems like you're actually talking to a real person, so I don't know. And then like the bartender, I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know. It was like pouring the drinks kind of slow and it was having a little bit of trouble that you would expect from a robot, so maybe it is legit. It's, I mean, it's probably, I think it's legit. Yeah. Like how, or I mean, these are all prototypes. This is like, Hey, this is what's coming. Like these aren't available yet. You did put a price tag on it. I think like the robots are like going to be like 30 to 50 grand. 20 to 30. 20 to 30, which like super low seem that much. Yeah. Kind of cool. Which, yeah, I don't know. Affordable robots. I think there's just somebody watching, there's just somebody watching and controlling it like a remote control plane. Sure. Sure it is. Autonomous. Yeah. I mean, maybe, maybe I don't want that to be true, but it just seems more likely to be the case. Yeah. Well, they expect to be talking about that. Cause I also saw the wild robot and Transformers one, which I'll save to the end to talk about. Cause I want to talk about animation a little bit, but. I don't know, Joker two. So I was going to go see Joker two, but I chose not to mostly because I haven't had time to see it. But after all the reviews came out and after I've pretty much heard the plot and all the problems surrounding it. I've decided I'm probably not going to see it in theaters. Also, it's supposed to go like streaming. Well, you can buy or pay to rent it by the end of the month, I think. Cool. So it's like already coming to streaming. But anyways, it's what I was worried about as it pertains to this movie, but it's even worse than I was expecting. And it's just, I mean, have you heard kind of the plot and kind of where the movie went to the kind of the purpose of the movie? Yeah. It's just, it's a, you know, middle finger to the fans. I guess it's, you know, it's the director Todd Phillips permit saying like, you like the first Joker will too bad. Because I'm going to completely destroy that character. I'm going to completely deconstruct him. And not only finish the movie where he left, where he began, but I'm going to make him even worse off than where he began. Completely just ruin the character. And then make, make the first movie completely pointless and meaningless. It's basically what he did. So it's like, yeah, it's not, it's. It's, it's so sad because that was Joaquin Phoenix's first sequel. This is first one. His first one probably going to be his last. Well, have you, have you heard how much Joaquin Phoenix and I think Lady Gaga and Todd Phillips, the director, got paid for. It's insane. And all they did was just dance on stage. Like, from what I've can tell, this movie had two locations. Oh, yeah. Like it seemed like a courtroom and a stage. Like, pretty much. I'm pretty sure that's the only two locations. Yeah. Except for the budget is like over $200 million. Yeah. Insane. But most of it went to, went to Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga and Todd Phillips because they got paid like $20 million to $30 million each. It's like, say it's $30 million, that's $90 million, like average $30 million, it's $90 million just for those three. Yeah. That's crazy. DC was like, we want a sequel. Todd Phillips, like, I don't want a sequel. Well, here's some money. Okay, I'll give you a sequel, but I get to do what I want with it and you can't say anything about it. And so he does what he wants with it and then it bombs and it's going to lose a lot like a ridiculous amount of money. It's going to lose probably about $200 million. Yeah. You have $200 million budget plus whatever marketing cost was. And once all is said and done, money goes to the theaters and everything like the return is going to be like not much. Seriously though, as soon as money is involved, movies just go to crap. Usually because they have no incentive to do their best or nothing. They've already gotten paid so they're just going to make crap. They don't care anymore. Well, yeah, it's interesting because Todd Phillips, this is his character. This is his story he created and he got creative control over the sequel. And yeah, money was involved, but that's things. He didn't want to do a sequel and the money got involved and it's like, okay, I'll do a sequel, but I'm going to make it. I'm going to piss everyone off. Yeah. So that's what he did. So you're right, but at the same time, it's like, this is a unique situation. Usually my complaint is you hire people that don't care about these characters, that only care about the paycheck or their activists and they have their own agendas. And they don't know the property that they're writing, directing with Star Wars. I mean, Ryan Johnson, I think, is an example. He did not care about the character of Luke Skywalker. Well, it's because he completely ruined it. It's because he didn't care anymore. After the first Joker, he didn't care about the character anymore. He made that movie. He made what he considered in his eyes a masterpiece. And once you make a masterpiece, you're not going to make a sequel to the masterpiece. You don't do that. You just don't because it never works. And he didn't care about the character because he's like, I did it. I made it perfect. Why should I do it again? Yeah. Exactly. It's not perfect, but in his eyes is what I'm saying. Yeah, I know. I mean, it made a lot of money. It was successful and it was popular. It's like it is considered a masterpiece by people. Yeah, 100%. And it's like, and this is what I was saying from the beginning. I'm sure it's what you were saying is like, it did not need a sequel. It was so dumb and stupid to make a sequel. And all that money. So, and apparently they didn't make much money on the first movie. Like, like, it returned. I think because they had to, there was something contractually that happens where they, they didn't, Warner Bros didn't get like as much money as they probably could have off the movie because they weren't expecting it to be a success. They did, they did not expect it to be successful. I can't remember what it was or something or something contractually that they had with someone else or another studio or something where it resulted in them not making as much money as they could have made on this billion dollar movie. And so then they take that whatever money they did make and then they put it in this movie and now bombs and then they lose all that, you know, it's, if they, they, you know, they're, they're playing poker and they keep going all, they, they're going all in now and they're, they're losing everything, all their chips. And they lost everything and that's, it's bombed. Yeah. Warner Bros is this, probably one of the stupidest studios out there. Aside from current day Disney. Yeah. Like, like Warner Bros has some of the greatest properties. Of all time in Harry Potter. Batman. Superman. All of these sea characters. They have, um, well, what, I know they have another big franchise. What was it? I know it was another one, but like, we'll just stick with those. Well, they have Looney Tunes. They have. Yeah. Yeah. Looney Tunes. What is Looney Tunes done? Uh, Space Jam 2. Let's get Jumper on Lames in here and, uh, make a Space Jam 2 movie. No one liked. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see it. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, they're, they're, they, I don't know what's going on in that studio. The series, I'm sure they're, they're going to like go bankrupt or something. Harry, Harry Potter, what they had the, what was it, the fantastic Beast movies. First one. Okay. Fine. Decent. Whatever fun. Cool spin off. Second one was awful. Completely bombed. Third one. Even worse. Terrible movie. Franchise dead. They were going to make like five, at least five movies. Yeah. Finished a third. Their biggest mistake was firing Johnny Depp. Um, but yeah. Either way. That franchise dead. Um, Harry Potter, you know, they're, they're, they're doing the TV show. I think like I've said, we've said this before, I think that, that there's a lot of potential there. That's a good idea. I think it has potential to be the greatest, probably the biggest, most popular TV show of all time. Like, it's Harry Potter, everyone's going to watch it. It could be terrible though. It could bomb and not make a past season one or two. But, um, Batman, it's about, what have they done with Batman in the last 10 years? They made the penguin. Oh, yeah. That's actually really good. Did you, well, I've seen, I've seen episode three. Uh, I'm still only halfway through episode two. No, okay. Um, but anyway, yeah, it is a really good show. Or episode four. It's just, it's like, episode four just dropped. I feel like it's still because of Batman that, that's still a good show. Like, it's still the fact that we're like in the Batman world. Let me, let me rewind. I think take it out of the Batman universe and it's just a good show. It's just a well told story. Yeah. All written. Yeah, but I feel like it's about a crime underworld. Yeah. But it's in the Batman world. So like you're, you know, like it, like Batman's out there somewhere. Like when you're watching it, like you're, I think that's for aware of that. Um, but, yeah, apparently they don't know anything with Batman. Well, so I don't want, should I go down this rabbit hole with Batman? Well, apparently, uh, well, apparently there's rumors that, that spoiler everyone, if you, if you want to, if you care, um, this is a spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, uh, apparently Robert Patterson's Batman is supposed to show up in Penguin. It's, it's like going to be a big reveal that they're keeping it under wraps. And, uh, because, and they said that he's definitely not knowing. But then there's been leaks and rumors that, yeah, he's, he's going to show up. So. Anyways, that's going to be interesting. Yeah. But I mean, and, and apparently like the, the reason that he's not, hasn't shown up yet. Um, for one, there's not, it's not, there's not been like any crazy events that have happened that would like necessitate Batman showing up necessarily. That was redundant. Uh, apparently Batman, he, after the, the movie, he's kind of like retreated and he's like trying to like figure out, okay, who he's going, who he's going to be as the hero and like, what does it mean now for him, having learned his lesson to, to be the dark knight and so forth. It could be, but okay, another topic I didn't want to get on, um, but for Warner Bros. So like, what if they, like, they had, they had Ben Affleck and his Batman, which we, you know, we don't, we, we, that could have been a really good movie. Okay. Like, you know, say what it would have been the best Batman movie ever. It, it, I think it could have, it could have been. Yes. Yeah. 100%. I think his Batman was one of the best in live action. Not a big fan of him, his Bruce Wayne necessarily, though, and again, it's not, it's not bad. I, I, when you look at him, when you look at him in the, as an actor taking on the role of Bruce Wayne, I think he did amazing despite, you know, maybe bad writing sometimes, maybe bad story telling sometimes, if you take that out and you just look at his character and the way he's acting in, like, it's perfect, like he's perfect and given a, given a perfect script would have been perfect. Mm hmm. Yeah. I just don't like Ben Affleck that much as an actor, but as Batman, I did like him. Yeah. I thought he was, I thought he was, he did a good job with that, and Batman vs Superman in what I would say is pretty, pretty bad movie. Yeah. Yeah. In my opinion, I know you, you like it a little more than others. I go back and forth on it. Like there are elements of it. I was just, I was so let down by the end of, when I first talked, I had so much like hype for it and like, I was so excited about it and I just, they did too much in it. The whole Martha stuff just bugs me and we're not gonna, you know, let's not get into it. And then Justice League happened and that was atrocious. Snyder Cut was cool, but that's it. It's dead. Before that, you had the Dark Knight trilogy, great, Christopher Nolan, you know, he's, he wasn't, he wasn't ever gonna do a fourth one, you know, like those three movies are awesome. Great. Third one has problems. So you know, actually just watch back, sorry, go ahead, sorry, this is, it's back to Warner Bros. Sorry if you, if you want to keep, okay, obviously, I saw Batman begins recently and I just say, yeah, I should watch that again. Guess what, guess what studio is owned by Warner Bros. What studio? Yeah. Oh, is owned by New Line Cinema. So they own Lord of the Rings. No one, no wonder we haven't gotten any Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Exactly. Another property that they do have rights to, and, and, and guess what? So they're, they're going to do a, a Batman move, or sorry, they also own the monster writers to add on that's the final thing. Yeah. There's a lot of things. Were they the ones that tried to do like the dark universe with drac, like a modern day Dracula and the mummy, remember the mummy remake with Tom Hainte? Yeah. Tom Cruise. Cause they made that one. They tried to set up this cinematic universe and it lasted like three films and completely fun. Lasted one movie, right? Wasn't it just the mummy? They, no, they did Dracula with a, what's his name? He plays Luke Evans. Oh yeah. Luke Evans was Dracula. Really? It was, it was a, it was like a different take on Dracula. And then like it wasn't based off the, the novel, but, um, and then they did the mummy with Tom Cruise and then I don't, I think that was it. Cause both those movies were terrible and they bombed. Yeah. So anyways, but yeah, they own Lord of the Rings and guess what? They have an opportunity to do an animated film of Lord of the Rings set in the, um, during the, you know, the time, the high, the high, uh, I don't know that. That's the word I'm thinking of. The height of the Rohirum that, uh, we're going to learn about King Helm and what are they going to do with it to buy a, they're going to put a chicken in it and make it lame and gay. Yeah. Yeah. That's, cause that's what every studio likes to do nowadays. Look at Disney. Yeah. Warner Bros. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Oh, Brother. Yeah. Just another failed studio. Mm-hmm. Well, and so this is our, I guess this is our night to talk about DC, wasn't expecting this. Yeah. Um, Grand Joker 2 and then this news, uh, Superman and crypto. First look photo. Did you see that? Yes. What'd you think? It's all right. It looks like a kid's movie. It's like a kid's movie. It looks like a Jane, well, I mean, I don't know. I'm not. It looks like a Jane's gun movie, but I don't know. I guess, well, it's another character in this Superman movie. Yeah. I know. How many characters is that now? People are saying that it should just be called, um, super people or something like that. Super people. Yeah. 'Cause of all the superheroes in this fricking movie. Yeah. I, I am trying not to judge this movie based off all everything that's, that's been, been released about it. I, I think Jane, I, I think James Gunn knows what he's doing. Uh, it is odd that there are so many characters. It is the, this, you know, it's odd that he's how he's been kind of teasing and releasing certain things. Um, the first photo was had its problem, like it was, it was just odd. This, this photo, I, I actually really liked. I thought it was, um, it was really cool. Superman, sitting with his, his dog crypto looking over earth, sitting on the moon. It's like, okay, that, I, like, I like that. I even liked the tone of it. You said it looks like kids movie, like, but this isn't Zack Snyder's Superman. Like, this isn't Man of Steel. Like, it's not, it's not, it's going, it's very much reminded me of the, uh, the, uh, the early 2000s Superman, uh, like that. Christopher Reeves. Yeah. I mean, Christopher Reeves. And who's the other guy? He did one super movie, one superman movie. Oh, I don't know his name. It was in like two thousand four, James, James, or whatever his name is was in that one. I don't know. And, uh, Kevin's, Kevin Spacey playing, yeah, Kevin Spacey played Lick's Luther. Yeah. 2006, Superman Returns, um, yeah, I totally, I forgot about that movie. Brandon Ruth. Ralph. I think I know about that movie is the, um, him getting shot in the eye of the bullet. Oh, yeah. Crushing the bullet. The plane crashing into the baseball field. Oh, dude, you know what? The thing is there, there are so many like movie trailers for that are just incredible and so cool and like get you so hyped for, got you so hyped for movies that just led to movies that were trailers for movies that were just awful, um, like Superman Returns. I remember that trailer being really cool, uh, but man of steel, the man of steel trailer. I don't know if you remember it, but I watched it recently. And dude, it is like, it just gets you so hyped and so like, like it gives you chills. You have, uh, the score, Hans, Hans Zimmer's score, which, uh, which I didn't notice, but John Williams, he did the score. I think it was for the, the first Superman movie. Um, but like they, they, they, they take, you know, Hans Zimmer takes John Williams's score and like really slowly builds up to it in the trailer and you have, uh, Russell Crow, uh, Jarl, Jarl, I think it's talking to, to his son and anyway, it's just, it's such a cool trailer and of course led to, to that movie, which I know that people have mixed opinions on it, but it's pretty good, uh, it, it's a good movie. I just don't think it's a good Superman movie, yeah, but I, I haven't seen in a while. So I'm, I'm not gonna, I think there are, I think it's a really good Superman movie because there's like, there's a couple scenes that you're like, like when he, when he finally, when he finally becomes Superman, like it's such like, such a awesome moment. And you're like, yeah, this guy is Superman. Yeah, but, I don't know, anyway, I don't know, the, the, yeah, I'll get on it. Yeah, I mean, the image, I mean, it's cool. I, I don't know, I, I don't know that James Gunn should be directing and making this Superman movie. Um, I mean, he should have delegated it to somebody else. Right. Uh, he's good at, he's, we obviously know he's good at taking obscure, unknown characters and making good movies. He's good at team movies, team up movies. And the Superman movie seems to be a team up movie with the title of Superman, being the first Superman movie in the new DC universe. So it's like, dude, what, what are you doing? I, I mean, I think he's, I think he's just trying to establish like this world is a world with superheroes and everybody knows your superheroes. There's lots of superheroes. It's normal for there to be superheroes all over the place. I think that's what he's going for. I'm wondering if a lot of these heroes are just like barely in the movie, you know, and it's just like, we're always running into superheroes because it's just so common because there's so many superheroes in this universe that we just run into a bunch of superheroes. Like it just happens because he's, he, that's why this, this is the world that he's trying to establish is that this is a world of superheroes and it's normal that there's so many superheroes. That could be what he's going for. I think it's a good possibility. Yeah. But I don't know, there's, there's so much leaning on this movie being good because if it's not good, people are, people are done with DC. Like they're, they're just going to be completely done. Like they're, they're not going to, they're not going to give DC another chance. Like this is it and yeah. So there's a lot riding on it. And so I don't know. It's going to be, it'll be interesting and interesting, you got fantastic for Marvel and then Superman coming out like the same month and it's, I think, or it's fantastic for the next year. No, I don't know, whatever it's, it's going to be interesting to see where the superhero genre is following that movie and based on how that movie performs. Yeah. I, I have high hopes. I am looking forward to July when I get to go probably take my boys to go sit and watch a Superman movie in theaters. I'm excited. Well, I'd be let down probably, but we'll see, we'll see to be impossible. Yeah. So. Well, yeah, I mean, anything else along those lines? Um, no, not really. We can move on from DC. Okay. Definitely didn't expect to give that much time to all that for sure, but that's okay. That's, that's what this show is like for what it's about. Yep. Or just laid back here. That fun. Uh huh. Um, I saw, yeah, I saw the wild robot and transformers one to animated films, two animated films that are doing really well in the box office, which I love to see. No. This makes me so mad. I saw, I, I saw an article today saying that the director of the wild robot wants to make. Guess what? Wild robot to because we love sequels. We want more sequels. You. Oh, this is another thing I want to talk about, but I'll just say it briefly. I think, uh, I'm pretty sure it's the top 15 highest grossing films of 2024 are either sequels or remakes, basically sequels. Yeah. They're all sequels. Every single one of them. Yeah. This year has been a sequel or like, or a third, third, third, third one. I don't know whatever it, for most part, so it's sequels, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's really good. But like, it's like, oh, but, and so guess what studios are going to do? They're going to see, oh, our most successful movies this year were sequels. So let's keep making sequels. Yeah. Let's keep making remakes. But why is that, Tobias? We've said this a hundred times before. Why is that the only, they're only sequels are being successful? So that's all there is because they can't make original content. Yeah. They can't make original content. It's all there is. It's sequels. Yeah. They have to rely upon name brands and IPs. Um, they have to rely upon nostalgia in order to get people to go see movies. And it's, it's getting old. That's for sure. Oh. Hey. So, anyways, wild robot, incredible movie, I, I will say one of the best animated films in the last decade, probably maybe, probably my top five. Like it was, and it was just a, it was amazing. So the director, if I'm not mistaken, he used to work for Disney, no longer does. And he's kind of been doing his own thing. He's, I think he did how train, I think he's the guy that did how train a dragon. So he's done other stuff for DreamWorks and this is DreamWorks. And so he does a wild robot. Um, man, just, it was just, it was just an incredible story. It was at a very like pro life message. Um, it, it was a, you know, what you get, you did a mini review on it. You don't want to, I know I'm going to have to cut some of this out. Okay. Well, go check out, I'm going to make money here, Trenton. I know. I know. Go ahead and check out our mini review for the wild robot where I talk about this movie, which is incredible. Yeah. But it, it's just, it was just really well done. I loved it. And then you had Transformers one where similar it's an obviously well known IP. So you have wild robot, which, so I, and I, so I, I, that movie is going to be probably on the list of hires, one of the highest grossing movies of the year. I think it's not doing like incredibly well, but for an end up, like a, you know, like, not independent, but like as an animated film, it's like its own thing. Um, it's not connected to an IP. It's, it's doing really well in the box office. Um, and it's just, it's just such a good movie. And then, you know, Transformers one, which is a big IP, well known. And that was surprisingly really good. Uh, it, once again, I did a mini review, I'm not going to get into it, has some plot problems. It has a lot of issues, but the third act, like, and I said, I said this in my review, the first two acts have problems, but the third act was really good. And I don't see that very often, but the third act was good and it kind of made up for the first two acts. So I'll just say it. It's an animated movie, good animated film. And guess what? People took their kids to see it. What, and what other animated film did we get this year that was, you know, was decent, didn't have any, you know, it wasn't preaching to you, no agendas. Well, inside out too. Oh, now it's the highest grossing film of all time, or animated film all time. You know, so it's just, parents want to take their kids to see movies. Um, studios will make money if they make good movies. Put animated films and put them in theaters, um, but they do so by just telling, but do so and just do so while telling good stories that people want to hear and what their kids to hear and see and watch and learning from and, and be inspired by, it's like, it's pretty straightforward. Uh, it doesn't, it just doesn't take a whole lot, um, so it's just, it, I think animation has, there's just a lot of animation that I was watching about robot. And one thing I realized was one, I, I enjoyed it more than my five year old and three year old. I'm like, um, my, my three year old thought we were going to see transformers and he's like, where's all the robots when we're halfway through the movie? Um, there was one robot, well, then there's more robots later on, but whatever. Um, he, you know, he wanted to see transformers, but we saw wild robot and they, they enjoyed it. It was fun, but I enjoyed it more than they did. Um, but that just goes to tell you that animated films could be for, for kids and for adults. And that's, you know, that's what Disney, that's what Pixar always was. Like, Toy Story can be enjoyed by adults. It's a good movie. Toy Story 2 is a great, is another great movie, Toy Story 3, good movie. Um, Finding Nemo, Incredibles, uh, Rad, Rad Tui up most life. It's like these are, these are good films. Funny enough, they're adult characters in all those movies for the most part, um, but they're played by bugs and toys and, uh, cars and fish. Um, but, and they're four kids, but they're, but they can be enjoyed by adults and they have like adult themes, uh, or like, not like a grown up themes, like, like issues, like themes of loss and grief and, and just the struggles, struggles of life and how do we overcome our struggles and so forth. So anyways, I just think animation is such a, a unique form of storytelling. And now that we have just the technology to make movies like The Wild Robot, I just think there's a lot of potential for animation to just to be a good medium for storytelling and one that can be used or should be used in many ways. And obviously we've had animated films for a while now, but it's like, there's a, it, there's more opportunity for more stories to be told in that format. And I think, I think we're going to see more of that in the future, probably, possibly. Yeah. I know. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of animation. I, I think animation is cool. Yeah. I think of like the, the, into the Spider-Verse movies, like the animation of those films are incredible. And you know, they tell these okay stories. Um, so don't be like, don't be like Disney and make an animated trans clone. Oh, oh gosh, I didn't want to bring that up, but what you did, so there you go. All right, so stupid. What do they call her sister? Cause, cause you know, you know the clones, they were, they were all about their, their sexual identity and you know, they're, well, you know, in the Clone Wars, they, you know, we learned that they are, they are their own persons. They have their own autonomy and their own agency and, you know, of course, there can be a, a, a male clone that decides to be a woman, there wasn't even any clones that had kids until Disney took, took Star Wars. That's true. Yeah. They weren't, they weren't even built to, to have kids like at all. Yeah. They're built for soldiers. They're built to be soldiers and die as soldiers and that's it. Yeah. All right. Ugh. Brother. Whatever. I just can't wait till the, till we, till Clone Wars season eight comes out and you get the, the, the clone, clone troops, troopers that are all wearing their pride flight. They're put, pride stickers or patches on their shoulders. Oh my gosh, get the blue haired lesbian. Oh, no, I can't wait until the live action Clone Wars where we get to, to, to, to Mar, to Marimorsen with a blue hair and a nose ring talking about his, uh, his pronouns. I'm telling, telling us his pronouns can't wait. Oh my gosh. It's so ridiculous. Anyway, did you have anything else? Uh, as far as news, no, I had a couple fun things for us to do. Yeah. I'd like to, to do that. Yeah, sure. One question kind of related to what, how a lot we're talking, what, what do you think is, and that the first one should be easy if you think about it. Um, what is, what, what are the top three highest grossing movie franchises of all time? So franchise, the Marvel Star Wars and, I don't know what the third one is. Yeah. So close. So you got to think outside the box a little bit as far as like movie studios and franchises. So you do have the MCU, MCU about, well, from the, the list I saw is it was 29.83 billion dollar franchise, you know, well above number two, which is actually Spiderman. So you have the Sony movies. I don't know if this includes the MCU ones. I don't think it does because, well, 10.6 billion, maybe it does. Well, no, because you have the, into the Spiderverse. Oh, yeah. You have the three Spiderman movies, you have the amazing Spiderman one too, which didn't make a lot. But so I don't know, either way, Spiderman is technically number two if that counts, but number three is Star Wars right below it. So Spiderman is 10.61 billion, Star Wars is 10.34 billion. And then you have Harry Potter, 9.66 and then double seven, seven point 84 million. Well, it's because it's so many movies. Yeah, I know. They do a lot. Yeah. Fast and furious. And with their like gazillion movies, yeah, seven point 33 and DC seven point 19. So, yeah, I thought it was interesting. Yeah. Spiderman Star Wars. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, Star Wars obviously makes sense, especially because the force awakens made two billion dollars. Yeah. What could have been all right, finish this off to buy a let's, I don't know how far we'll make it through this. Maybe we'll do a part two next week, but I want to do a tier ranking list of our well of okay, I went through and I picked out 20 of the top or the top 20 IMDB animated films. So top 20 on IMDB of movies that I know you and I have both seen. So there's been some. Have you seen like the studio Ghibli anime films? A couple, but not really. I regrettably actually have not because I like I know spiritual ways considered to be one of the best films ever. My, what's the other one called, I can't read another popular one, but I've not seen them. Not, not of like, I don't care. I just, I've not been big in anime. I've seen some anime and I do like it. I just have a watch studio Ghibli, but maybe I'll do that eventually either way. So I picked, I went through and literally it's like, you know, a couple of studio Ghibli films, and then a couple of ones I've never really heard of on this list. But this is basically the top 20 of ones that we're aware of. And funny enough is it's all Disney and Pixar pretty much except for a couple, a couple that aren't some of them are like, what's it called? Dreamworks. Yeah. Dreamworks. So yeah, which is funny. Like Disney, yeah, we'll give credit, we'll credit it as you and because I do like, I do like Disney pre like 2015, '14, whatever, like Disney was, was one of the greatest animated studios of all time. So anyways, let's start out with a banger to buy a, where would you rank on an S tier list, S-A-B-C-D-F? Where would you personally put Toy Story 1? I haven't seen that in a long time. I know. Well, actually, I don't know what I'm saying. I've seen it a gazillion times because of my voice. Maybe B. What? Toy Story, like anime, like I'm talking about animated film, like where it's just in the category of animation. Not like films in general, not just the animation, like the way it's animated. No, no, no, no, no, like if you're in the category of animation, what is your, like, the top animated film, your, your number one, like, S tier animation film? You put, would you still put Toy Story B? Because if you do, I'm done. I quit the show. Probably. What? Okay. Maybe, A. What do you have, what do you have above Toy Story? Toy Story is the greatest, I don't, it's like my, at least my top five, it's probably top three. It's an S tier film. Okay, it's maybe, maybe, maybe, A. Okay, well, I don't know that it's S tier, I would say Toy Story 2, maybe S tier. Okay, I mean, Toy Story 2, I think it's better, well, no, Toy Story 1, 2, and 3 are, like, a perfect trilogy. Yeah. I just, it, like, is perfect as you're going to get in trilogies, I think it's, it's there. And, like, I, I have a hard time not putting that in, like, all three of those in S tier. Yeah, that's true. Toy Story 2 is my, my favorite of the three, but, Toy Story 3 is really good too. Yeah. Oh man. Those are just good. Okay. Yeah. This is not going the way I was expecting. Okay. I guess I could put Toy Story, I get, the Toy Story trilogy, I could put an S tier. Like, if you're looking at it as a trilogy, I would say, yeah, it's an S tier. Okay. It's a trilogy, S tier, S tier, but Toy Story 1, because I do have the other two movies on here. Uh, Toy Story 1, I say S tier, if you want to say B tier, it's fine. We, we would put it in, I can put it out. I don't want to, but I'll put it in the middle and make it even in at eight here. Yeah. If that's what we want to do. It's fine. Okay. Beat here. Okay, to buy a number two. And I'm surprised this is the number two rated animated film. I think it was number two, or maybe Spirited Way was, I remember. It was a number two. Spirited Way, I think is. A big start. Okay. Up. Um, it's a really good movie, no doubt. Yeah. Um, man. But I'm also thinking about like, do I just like enjoy it, you know? A lot of animation is about enjoyment, like, I mean, but, but, well, okay. Okay. So Toy Story and I'm putting Toy Story at A. I would probably put this in line with the first Toy Story at A. You put it, okay, okay. Yeah, I, yeah, I think up as an A tier, like, I don't have any, I don't have any problems with up. Yeah. Incredible movie. Um, so, I mean, yeah, I'd say it's an A, it's A tier. Yeah. I mean, it actually is going to be hard for me not to put a lot of these in S tier and I got to be like, I got to stretch it out here. Okay. Finding Nemo, where all, most of these are Pixar because Pixar is the greatest animated studio. Yeah. Okay. It just is. You know, and it's been pumping out garbage for the last, yes, since COVID anyways, finding Nemo, they're all going to be the same. I mean, it's all going to be like, okay, maybe that we should just rank Pixar movies. Yeah. You'd say a tier, I guess. Yeah. Finding me. Yeah. Okay. Maybe this is hard. And I was expecting it to put it below up in Toy Story. I mean, no. All right. We're shoving that in a tier along with a lot of other films that are going to get shoved in a tier. Oh, Wally, this one might be low. Yeah. Or at least for me. Yeah. Um, I'll, I'll start with this one. Wally is a, it's a, it can be controversial. It's a, it's a C tier for me. I, I, I think that Wally is, is good. Um, I just, I also think Wally has some problems and there are aspects of it that I, I don't enjoy a whole lot. So, yeah, it's going to say, I mean, even for me, really, okay, I mean, that's fair. I mean, it's not a movie that I'm like, will I watch it ever again? Probably once or twice, like it's probably got one or two more watch re watches in my lifetime. Oh. Okay. It's got a lot of issues. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Uh, so you say D tier? Yeah. Uh, so I say, I say C, uh, I mean, um, I'll, I'll, I'll give it a D. I'll put a D tier, we'll put it down low, twist array three, or just put, or just put twist with three. I mean, kind of like without saying like with the whole. I mean, as an individual movie, I guess, it's really good. Probably asked here. Well, okay, so you put Toy Story three. Maybe this is just different generation, which we've had disagreements. You put this above Toy Story one. I would put the second third one, but above the first one. Is it just because it's old or are you idiot? Well, I mean, Toy Story one, I mean, it's kind of boring at points. Boring. It's not like my go to movie. Okay. It's fine. Okay. I haven't watched it in a long time. And there's a reason I haven't watched it in a long time. I'm saying this is a dad who's watched all these movies a hundred times as recently. I gave Toy Story one S tier, I'm going to be fair and give this one an A tier. You say S, I mean, but hey, you said S, you know what, I'll put it in. We're putting it in S. It's an S tier movie. Well, like I say, like the whole trilogy, like together, it's an S tier trilogy. So do I just put them all in S tier? I guess I could, but you didn't put the first one, but I put the first one in B. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess, I mean, no, I mean, I think A is probably a little more accurate than B. Okay. Okay. I don't know. This is my first time doing a S tier list. I got to be, I got to be. What are we on right now? We're like, how many? Yeah. We're on number six. Okay. That's a good time. You're number six. So let's go and do it. Let's do four, four, do this in four episodes. We're almost to an hour. So let's go ahead and call it now. Okay. So we'll do four parts. So five. Yeah. Okay. So five in each one. Yeah. We might skip next next week. Cause I want to do a Halloween movie a tier list because it's gonna be a Halloween episode next week. Yep. All right. Yep. Yep. So first five movies, we got Toy Story and A tier. Well, let's do S. We have actually one movie in S right now. We have Toy Story 3. Toy Story 1 is an A tier and up A tier, finding Nemo A tier, Wally and D tier. We'll probably make a lot of people mad, but you know what? We do that a lot. Yep. And that's okay. Yep. We kind of enjoy it. Yeah. Well, that was fun. Cool. So first of four, ranking of animated films, we're gonna do this more often. These are fun. Mm hmm. And we get to yell at each other. And that's also fun. I think Toy Story 3 also has one of the best villains ever. Incredible villain. Yes. And the fact that-- From motivations to backstory to well-developed and a good fallen character. Yeah. Yeah. Great. And the fact that he stays purely evil throughout the entire movie, like-- Yes. You think he's turning at the end there, and then he doesn't, and he stays evil, I think that's great. And then he dies. I mean, he doesn't die, but he dies as much as he could in an animated movie. Yeah. That doesn't get disintegrated. Yeah. Wait. How does he die? Or what is he-- He gets put on the dump truck. Dump truck, yeah. Okay. But that's where he'll be for the rest of his life. So. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Wasting away. Oh. Okay. We need to do like a Pixar season and stuff. There's so much that we can talk about as far as Pixar, like so many incredible themes and good stories. And just ending to the entire trilogy in that movie where he goes off to college, it's just perfect. Yeah. It totally. And just pretend the fourth movie doesn't exist. Give me away. The fourth movie is just garbage. All right. And then, but hey, we're getting a fifth one because that's what we wanted. Which means they're doing a sixth because you don't stop at five. Right. Well, Pirates of the Caribbean stopped at five and then they fired Johnny Depp and now they want to do Margot Robbie spin-off movie. Now they're not going to do that apparently. Now they might do the sixth movie if Johnny Depp decides to if they pay him a lot of money. And once again, as we started off this episode and we come full circle, you give a lot of when money is involved, the movie sucks. Yeah. Usually. Yeah. So, Pirates of the Caribbean franchise died after three. Yeah. Three was so good. So was two and one. That's an atmosphere. I haven't seen the third one in a while because and I'm hearing a lot of people say the third movie is not good and I'm really curious why I don't know. I think, I mean, there's just a lot to happens and they do a lot more like supernatural stuff and whatnot. Yeah. But first two movies are incredible. I know that. I remember that. But and I always remember liking the third. So I want to go back and watch the third. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a long time since I've seen a third movie. All right. Yeah. You know what? Cool. I need to watch Pirates of the Caribbean again. All right. 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