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Prospect Discussion: Wide Receivers

Mike and Terry talk about the deepest position group in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Wide Receiver position.

Duration:
57m
Broadcast on:
28 Mar 2024
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Guys and girls, welcome back to another edition of the Football Function podcast, available on all your podcasting platforms, including on Patreon, if you prefer an ad-free listening experience. As always, I am one of the hosts of this show, Michael Ritter. You can find me on x at Michael5Ritter on on Instagram at MichaelRitter5, and one of the hosts of the SmackDown review over on the WWE podcast. Joining me on this episode to talk about a stat, wide receiver class, my humble co-host student of the game, Young Terence Minifil Terry, how we doing? Yo, yo, yo, how the funk are we everybody? Hope everybody is full of happiness and positivity right now, because your boys living on cloud nine. Glad you guys tuned in because we got a absolute banger of a draft discussion for you guys. Like Mike said, the receivers have made their turn into the football function warehouse here, and we are going to have fun breaking down these guys. Truly one of my favorite positions to talk about. That's well known. Just feels appropriate to get this one out of the way. Obviously, we've already done the offensive tackles and the edge-rushers. We're sticking to the premium positions. Up next. Got to get to the wide receiver, obviously cornerback and cornerback. And then we'll get into some of the more, you don't want to say not important positions, but the further down the long guys, whenever you're talking about building a team, you know, everyone knows that there are premium positions that you want to take care of, and they get a lot of money. And that's just kind of the nature of the beast. But there is a pretty good selection of wide receivers in this draft. This class is very tight. Every type you possibly want. Do you need a true complement number two wide receiver to your already established number one wide receiver? Litter. We got a few of those. Do you need a number one wide receiver? Do you need somebody to come in and transcend your offense and take it to heights that it's never been to? There's a few of those guys as well. If you are lucky enough to land one. And do you need a slot speedster deep threat? Just somebody who can be an intermediate chain mover, a possession wide receiver. There's so many different styles and flavors. So if you need a pass catcher in this specific draft, you are in a good spot. Yeah, in the years that we've been doing this, this is absolutely hands down the best wide receiver class we've done. We've died easily. Yeah, easily, man. You've got you've got a couple of generational talent. I know that word has been thrown around a lot, but this is this is going to be that class that you could find that could, you know, get you over the hump. So really quickly, before we get into these wide receivers, I do just want to kind of get your thoughts on the kickoff rule. Oh, man, they changed it. Now it's more so, I mean, it's going to be safer. We can go ahead and I guess get that out of the way, but also, I mean, they're adapting the XFL or the UFL now. Adapting those rules. So it's less of a running start, more so just blocking from like 10 yards away from each other. However, it is, it's a little strange. Yeah, they want more returns, more, you know, big fireworks. Yeah, do the return games and less injuries. Obviously, I just, I just hated how out of left field this was. I mean, I'm not too into, you know, the social medias and everything and out there into the world, but I never heard of people, you know, anybody wanting this, like neither, you know, them putting it in just out of nowhere like this. It just caught me off guard, but you know, safety is always number one. And if this really does prove that we won't see any more, you know, concussions or, you know, God forbid torn ACLs or, you know, any other injuries out there, you know, if this really does help, I'm all for it, man. Well, I'm glad that you got a chance to get that off your chest. Thanks. Well, obviously, but how are you feeling? How's your shoulder feeling? I know that you and I, I mean, you know, it's pretty, I guess, kept on the rug. Yeah, it's still fairly now. It's still, we have not announced anything yet, but it's not anything noteworthy anyways, you know, I don't even want to hype, hype it up. I mean, I guess we can. I mean, if it does go into fruition, I think it'd be a bad thing to talk about. Oh, for sure. Well, long story short, me and Terry have probably like five years of flag football experience together. Yeah, just as a quarterback, wide receiver, I think a little bit of connection, but yeah, you know, it's been a while, you know, that's just playing because I personally, that's what I'm going to get into. I haven't played since before COVID and that's been what like three, four years almost. Yeah, almost like so. Yeah, just as far as like the actual window where we were shredding, having some fun out there, that's long gone. And I just, you know, it's, it's been weird not being able to have that, I guess, be just, you know, part of our life. Yeah, every day. And you luckily still get out there and play just not like a league though, right? Yeah, no, nowhere near any league or any organization. It's just a couple of guys out there having fun just on around the pigs game in a competitive fashion. Because the five years of experience that we're referring to was in a league here with very talented players. We can go ahead and just say that, you know, we're in a city with probably like what, four or five high schools, five A schools. A lot of talented people live here that play flag football. So the competition was never lacking. Not one bit. And I can, I feel like it's pretty safe to say that we are going down a level in competition. This is a league that's in a completely different town, my hometown to be exact. But yeah, I mean, hopefully the league comes to fruition. Number one, that's the thing. It has to work out. We've been down this road before, where we found out about leagues and, you know, put a team together and try to do practices and all that shit. And then come a league time, they cancel it. So we won't get our hopes too high. And hopefully that doesn't jinx us or anything. But you know, hopefully only about seven weeks, it's only going to be from the beginning of April to the end of May. And the one thing I'm more concerned about is the possibility of driving to Dalhart and games getting canceled. You want to talk about devastation? We cannot have that. So let's just, knock on some wood. Hope that doesn't happen. Like I said, it's only seven weeks. This could be the farewell tour. Who knows? I'm not necessarily committing to anything long term. You know, you hope that the fire gets reignited and it's able to, you know, once we get on the film, we start having some fun again. It's being dropped. Let's look for other leagues to join. But as far as this specifically goes, I'm not sure if there's going to be another season after this one. I'm more so just focused on this. You're going to take it, you know, kind of a slow approach. Yeah. Yeah. One step at a time. Exactly. And to see how it goes, because I know I'm going to be rusty out there. You want to talk about rest? It's going to take some transition or some getting used to you for sure. Like Mike was saying earlier, we were out in the park. We took our kittles out to the park a little bit and threw around the pigskin and it was rough a little bit. Yeah. Shoulders killing me. It was definitely, you know, I haven't gotten a chance to catch balls like that in a long time. Yes, sir. So it felt good for sure. It felt good to let loose the shoulder a little bit. To let it spin a little bit, you know, just kind of break it out a little bit, but it's so I ain't going to lie. But we will be keeping you updated. Whether it goes through or doesn't, you will definitely get updates as far as you know, what we're doing as far as getting on the flag for wall-filled and things like that. Hopefully it works out because I'm looking forward to it. Him? Bullyball. Bullyball's coming back for Terry Minnefield is finally getting a chance after suffering a gruesome injury. Officially off IR. He's ready to come back. Yeah, we should have chosen and done. We should have, you know, got that out of the way a little bit earlier in the show. The fact that you were out there throwing 30, 40 yard passes because, I mean, yeah, it wasn't that long ago where you could barely even talk. I couldn't even fucking blink without hurting. But now it's all that's behind me. We're looking towards the future right now and it's looking bright. I mean, everything's firing and we're all cylinders. I mean, even some of the, you know, some of the ugly balls I was throwing earlier felt, you know, it felt good. It felt great. Everything felt great. You know, whenever the ball just hits your hands and goes right to that tuck, you know, you just catch it tuck immediately, cut up, fail, take a couple steps. That's when you know I shit. It's in the bike. But anyways, I have to wet my whistle, but are you ready to get into this wide receiver class? Well, I'm more than ready to get to these guys. These guys are going to be, you know, we're going to hear a lot of these guys in the first round. I mean, obviously you're going to hear a lot of them in the second round, but, you know, pay attention to some of your guys needs will be fulfilled by this wide receiver class. This is one of the rare classes where you can literally address another need in the first round and still get a contributing playmaker. Yeah, and get value. You can still get a hell of a player in the second round. I mean, let's not forget, I mean, badass wide receivers come from the second round, AJ Brown, T Higgins, just to name a couple just in recent memory. Obviously, Pukin and Kula was a fifth round pick. So these wide receivers come from all different places, all different shapes and sizes. But if you could get into a lab and create a wide receiver, he would probably look a little bit like Marvin Harrison Jr. From Ohio State six foot three 209 pounds. This is a very good athlete with a steam line aerodynamic frame dominating length brings insane capacity, throttle control, bend, flexible at stems. He really knows how to manipulate a DB or like on the route tree. The body control, that's something that I noticed immediately when watching him, especially towards the sideline. That's really what kind of draws the AJ green comparisons for me is what he's able to do, stretching that almost six four frame up, pulling down a football, getting both feet in bounds. He doesn't really have, you know, a massive high end mass, you know, upper body. Yeah. So he's not really going to consistently break through tackles like this isn't going to be a Julio Jones where you look down on the highlight reel and there's four defensive backs trying to take him down. One is most likely going to be able to, you know, to get him down. He's very vulnerable to peanut punches because of just the way that he, I guess, just doesn't really expect it. I don't know if it's like an awareness thing obviously you can get that, you can get that crafted. But one thing I will say just the IQ that this guy has, it's pretty obvious that he was raised by an NFL Hall of Fame wide range to be this position. You kind of just appreciate something special with Marvin Harrison because like he is one of the first ones and obviously we've seen sons come before, you know, Antoine Winfield Jr. is in the league right now and Randy Moss's son came into the league already didn't really have any type of success. But I mean, he got drafted and several other player sons have made their way into the league. Obviously, Joey Porter Jr. He's in the league right now. Asante Samuel Jr. J.C. Horn. Well, yeah, yeah, J.C. Horned, Joe Horned son, but Marvin Harrison Jr. That's an interesting one because he was such a father that is such a quiet yet dominant and consistent player in his own right. Marvin Harrison coming into the league, you know, it's, it's, I can draw connections back to that era. Yeah, just because if he goes to the Cardinals, say like it's just interesting because I remember that Colts team took its first big blow whenever Eddren James left and went to Arizona, the Colts won the Super Bowl literally the next year with a rookie running back Joseph Adai. But Marvin Harrison, you know, at the time, you know, he lost one of his greatest teammates to the Arizona Cardinals. I doubt even for a split second, he thought, my son's going to play for that organism. Damn, I never tied two and two. You know, so that's one thing. And that's another one just like with the Chicago Bears for a little bit whenever it was speculated. Should the Bears keep Justin Fields and draft Marvin Harrison number one overall, the thought was already coming to my mind. Marvin Harrison Sr. got his Super Bowl ring against the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl 41. So I was like, damn, I guarantee there wasn't a thought in his mind that said my son is going to play for this team. You never really think things like that. I definitely sure so then I can remember little Marvin Harrison Jr. in his dad's arms wearing like the, you know, the big number 88 jersey that's way oversized Indianapolis Colts jersey. Part of me really wanted Marvin Harrison Jr. to wind up in Indy. Like I would have really liked for them to give this high of a draft pick or it just somehow work out. But Marvin Harrison ain't fallen further than eight. No, I can tell you're right now. He's top three top four. Yeah. Well, just I mean, if you want to talk about player, he's top two. Yeah, for sure, a player in the draft wide receiver number one. Because of his position, he's going to get drafted probably fourth overall. But man, this is who you want. Now there's going to be a lot of expectations, you know, that's one thing that is kind of unfair to him. He's very hyped coming from a wide receiver university that just pushes out first round picks, you look at Terry McLaurin, you look at Chris Olave, obviously Garrett Wilson, Michael Thomas, how the hell of a run. There's always, you know, been Ohio state wide receivers that have made a name for themselves for the past decade now. And I think this is going to be the best of the bunch. I really even Jackson Smith and Jigwell last year came out. You know, I think that Marvin Harrison, just when you talk about prototype and just a prototypical wide receiver, this is an ex wide receiver right here going to be lining out out wide going up against the number one corner, probably going to get a lot of attention, especially going to a team like Arizona where there's really not a lot of wide receiver helping. You know, that's just hypothetical, obviously. You expect him to go there. It could be completely different once we get to draft time. But I think going to one of those top teams regardless, like if he goes to the Giants, of course, he's going to be one of the, they just lost say, Juan Barkley, there's really not a lot there. He would be the face of that franchise. Same thing, even went to the Chargers. I doubt he falls that far either. But I know they have Justin Herbert, but still he would be, they just lost Keenan Allen. They just like my, they just lost Mike Williams. Quentin Johnston is pretty much just, you know, nothing. He isn't really, he didn't pay enough how they wanted. They're not writing home about him, you know. Yeah. So you're losing Austin Echler as well. Gerald Everett, like the Chargers offense is going to look so different next year, especially with Jim Harbaugh coming in. I don't think he values that type of wide receiver enough. You know, even dating back to San Francisco days, like Michael Crabtree was the most talented wide receiver that came through the door during his tenure there. And you know, Michael Crabtree's talented, no doubt about it. I mean, especially when you talk about his college career, but as far as the league goes, I think that he definitely had a ceiling. And you know, he reached it. Yeah, he did. Marvin Harrison Jr. He's going to take this offense, whichever offense he gets to. Yeah, that's the thing about Marvin. That's the thing about him is you could pluck and play him anywhere in a league and he would have success. The other guys in this fall in those categories of having to land in the perfect spot with the perfect quarterback that you know, they can get on chemistry with. Marvin Harrison's coming in day one and you and him just make eye contact with each other and you have that connection. I mean, he's literally like a pass rusher when you think about the way he uses his hands on his routes. That's what I'm talking about. Like this dude has been around a Hall of Fame wide receiver for his entire life. 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But because he's so hyped and because he's getting so much attention, it's very easy for a player like Malik Neighbors to slide under the radar. Six foot, 200 pounds, that's a hell of a frame. I know six foot. He's like three four inches shorter than Marmar Harrison Jr., but only nine pounds lighter. There's a lot of NFL receivers that make that stature work. A lot of good ones too. Yeah, and he's going to be one of the, you know, talking about Ohio State being wide receiver, you look at LSU. It's just as dominant. Even Brian Thomas, we'll talk about her in a little bit, his teammate, but Malik Neighbors was the wide receiver one for the LSU Tigers this past season, nuanced vertical threat with thrashing speed, throttle control, stem intelligence, his transition in between micro movements and instant explosion creates defensive back instability. He has stellar body control as well. Tight situations can use late hands to control leverage. Sips through congestion. Just whenever you're talking about like a crowded little areas, and you'll find the zone, he'll be able to just stop on a dime, catch the ball, explode, use that agility that he has. He's getting up filled. He plays with a lot of physicality as well. You get the ball in this guy's hands. He's a run after the catch threat and pretty much just almost as scary as any player in this draft when you talk about getting the ball in his hands. You know, there's no Bijon Robinson in this class or somebody like that where like holy shit, he's going to juke you out of the building. Like, Malik Neighbors will run through you, but he will also just absolutely outrun you. Yeah, this is a running back playing receiver, but he does have the skills of receiver to have every route in his bag. And, you know, like Mike said, run you over, get those yak yards. He's just not a 50/50 guy. Like, you're not going to really throw it up to him and expect him to just muscle a corner or somebody like that. Now, can he do it? Yeah, I mean, he's, I don't think that's excellent. Yeah, I don't think that he's going to just be a liability out there out there by any means. But, you know, it's kind of just like, you know, certain wide receivers, you're not just going to throw the ball up to him and just say, Hey, go beat this corner, especially if it's a taller corner. But Malik Neighbors is no consolation prize. This is not like hell, no, someone who you say, I guess we'll take Malik Neighbors. No, you're going to get another phenomenal wide receiver. Somebody who you could argue is the most productive wide receiver to come out of LSU ever. And I'm talking about Justin Jefferson, I'm talking about Jamal Chase, two phenomenal wide receivers. And that's why you have to, like, people will just look at stats. Yeah. You know, they'll look at what somebody did, like Jay Daniels, man, he damn near had a, you know, just as good of a year as Joe Burrow, right? Whenever he was there won the Heisman, he goes to the National Championship. And I'm not saying that I agree with that. I'm just simply saying, like, people look at stats and they'll just put so much stock into that. But Malik Neighbors, it's not just what he's able to do from like a, I got X amount of catches. I got this many yards, this many touchdowns in a game. Like yards per route run, Malik Neighbors, 3.64, Jamar Chase, 3.52, Justin Jefferson, 2.64. So literally a whole yard more, like when you're talking about yards per route run, drop rate, he's better. Yeah. 5.3% Jamar Chase, 5.6. Miss tackles forced. Malik Neighbors has 30, Justin Jefferson, 24, Jamar Chase, 22. Like he is someone that like the numbers don't lie whenever you're talking about like the advanced stats too. It's not just the typical, let's go look at the, where's the box score, you know, and see how many catches he got? Because yeah, that's going to blow you away as quarterback was the Heisman Trophy winner. But I just think there's other, like it's not just this season where you say like, oh, he did this and he really met these expectations. If you go back and compare him to past wide receivers that are thriving currently in the NFL, it's pretty clear to see this is a slam dunk draft pick right here and he's going to be a dominant receiver at the next level. Yeah, he definitely is. And he reminds me a lot of DJ Moore with the stature and how he brings himself in a game, how he's hard to tackle, but also could get on the, get on top of corners and, you know, beat them speed wise. This is a guy who has every, every tool that you want you need. But yeah, this is a home run hit. He's no consolation at all. This is a guy who's coming in day one and challenging everybody in that wide receiver group. And, you know, beaten out guys from day one and make an impact. Very rarely do you get to the third wide receiver and you're still thinking, holy hell, I would be thrilled if this guy felt to me at eight overall, you know, like talking about like, damn, at eight overall, we're getting the third best wide receiver. That doesn't sound just from the outside looking in just in a vacuum. It doesn't sound that appealing. But Roma Dunes, a like six foot two 212 pounds from Washington. Like we talked about it with Mollie neighbors. He's not going to go 50 50 Roma Dunes. They will absolutely go 50 50. He knows how to box out defensive backs, which is using that big frame that he has. Very flexible. He's really good at running routes effortlessly. Can just stack and direct. He can stack direction and change on breaks. He's another very versatile run after the catch weapon high end agility. He just kind of similar to neighbors, the congestion does not bother him. Like, and that's why I think in the NFL where the windows are a lot smaller, it's not going to be like night and day difference. This is someone that can masterfully use his hands to dictate things at the catch point, control leverage. He knows what he's doing in terms of his assignments. He might be a little bit lighter than he's listed though. They listed him at 212. We'll see. You know, if that's exactly what he ends up wearing, the play strength amidst contact. That's a little bit more, you know, and easy to be desirable. He's a big body wider receiver. Like he's going to absolutely get it like his catch radius is huge. Yeah, he's very balanced. But like the one area we talked about at him edging out Malik neighbors is in the 50-50 jump balls. Malik neighbors edges him out in the true run after the catch. Like he's going to break tackles and things like that. Yeah. Roman Williams, they really doesn't have the long speed. He is pretty exceptional. He's just being an all around wide receiver. But we talk about the elite wide receivers. I don't think he's as fast as him. Yeah, he definitely doesn't have that top end speed. But all in all, this dude's polished, man. Like he is truly a wide receiver one. And you're going to get him picking the third wide receiver probably. Who knows? He couldn't end up going before Malik neighbors. We kind of talk about it. It's a little bit like preference, you know, like there's no guarantee that neighbors is going to go number two. He can even go before Marvin Harrison for all we know. The draft is very unpredictable. The mystery and the just, I guess the the anticipation of it is really what I love the most. Yeah. So as much as I love doing these mock drafts, I don't really like to look into like trying to nail the pick months in advance. You know, I would love to just kind of let things play out and just, you know, what happens a little bit, you know, as we get closer, but Roma Dunes, eh, no later than nine to the Bears. Like after they got their quarterback number one, they're going to end up getting him at number nine or a pass rusher. Who knows? Like we said, yeah, I mean, he goes before him. I would love to see that the Dunes A and Caleb Williams connection just evolve over the years. And I mean, that would be one of the greatest one, two punches. I think that we've seen a long time. A Dunes A is just a crafter receiver with like truly rare ball skills, his combination of his hands and body control, his body track or ball tracking skills, you know, his ability to the high point balls. I think he floated for like 10 seconds in that game against Texas in the CFP. It was, it was freaking crazy. He has all sorts of highlights littered in YouTube. This guy has, if this wasn't for a guy named or two guys, I guess really his preference, but Marvin Harrison, in my opinion, is way better. And neighbors does edge amount in my books. But if it wasn't for those two guys, this guy would be at top of a lot of people's list. And a Dunes A is going to make a team very happy with what he can just produce from day one. This guy is going to obviously have the potential to win offensive player, rookie of the year and shit. And this guy's, you know, just has the ability just to go up and get it like no other man. I am going to enjoy seeing him with a NFL type quarterback. So now we do enter another tier of wide receivers. That's what we stopped talking about those three. Those are the true wide receiver ones. In fact, that I'm pretty confident they're going to have a pretty good NFL career. A lot of other guys, I'm pretty confident that if they get to the right landing spot, they could absolutely thrive such as Brian Thomas Jr. from LSU, Malik, neighbors teammates, six foot two, 209 pounds, very elite athlete. This dude flies for his size because he does have a elite length, pretty good mass as well. I mean, just absolute. Like you want to say he brings like an element to the game that like Taylor Gabriel or like, you know, you damn sure don't want to compare it to Sean Jackson, but his explosiveness and the way that he can kind of work on a veteran, like a vertical plane. It's extremely impressive. Obviously he can attack the ball in the air, can consistently win at the catch point, but he does have a little bit of an underdeveloped route tree. Like he runs crossers, drags and verticals. Like that's pretty much it. Like you can get him running like certain routes. So you can scheme him open and use his, like his breakaway speed, like if you're going to run like a, like a wider, see the screen, pull a couple of linemen out there and just kind of get him going. If the defensive backs are on like a off coverage or something like that and they've given him a lot of space right there at the line of scrimmage, then yeah, you can definitely do that. But he's not going to go out there and run like a post corner and just route people up. Now that could be something he polishes. I feel like as a wider receiver, that's one of the easiest things you could work on man. Go polish your routes. Like, it's not that hard. If you're this good of an athlete, we're talking about six foot 209 and you're running a four, three, 40, like come on man, get your ass in there and work on them routes because you could really elevate your game. You can raise your draft stock. You're such a beast already, man. If you get, I guess just more nuance to your game, then I think that he's going to be another wide receiver that a team is going to be very happy. And I think he's without a top 20 pick. Yeah. When I watch him, it just seems normal to him. Like the wide receiver position, it was just, it's just smooth for him. Like he, it's just, it's second nature when I watch, when I watch him. It's, it's really rare when you see a guy who's just elevating other guys, getting guys open. And that's what he does. He, he demands all eyes on him. He was a, he's a top athlete with, you know, very rare, rare traits. If it wasn't for all these other guys, like I said earlier, he would be at top of the charts. But there is a drop off and he does have those, those traits that you find disturbing a little bit. And you question, it's just more work for him than these other guys. But nonetheless, he's a phenomenal athlete. It's going to make a team very happy. Someone who I also put in the same category as him, Keon Coleman, wide receiver out of Florida State, six, three, 213 pounds. Excellent size, length, his frame. He's a really short range athlete, effortless accelerator, got a lot of foot, foot speed, lateral twitch for his size. He kind of has elite timing, coordination, body control, all that good stuff that you want, like at the catch point to make a complete wide receiver. He knows how to make high difficulty adjustments, look effortlessly. Or effortless, I should say, seeks out the ball past his frame, four, six, four yard dash, that's not necessarily telling for like a long speed wide receiver. But keep in mind, four, six is like the, the top like 10 wide receivers in the league this past year in terms of like receiving yards, they were all four, six guys, or four, four, six, I'm like, I don't know exactly what the hell it was, but four, six, maybe actually, I don't think about it, because four, four is fast. So that's nothing to write home about. If you're talking about a stat, actually being like, being noteworthy, then without a doubt, four, six is more like it. But he does have promise with his drought tree, but he can definitely strive for more, especially, you know, in the technique department, like we need to definitely see a lot more from that. But in terms of like the blind spot IQ, like this dude's gonna absolutely be able to find the blind spots in the zones. He's a really educated football player by the like film study that he does. You can tell that it's pretty obvious. This is someone that really likes to get to know his opponent, physicality as a route runner to like, I really like, you know, big wide receivers that are six, three plus to be able to run routes. I saw how dominant it could be and how much of an advantage it could be. Really gives defensive backs nightmares, defensive coordinators nightmares. Keon Coleman has wider receiver too potential for sure. Like he's someone like that can kind of fill the Jordan Addison role, not like their skill sets are similar by any means. I'm just talking about how Jordan Addison fell into a spot where they already had a very good wide receiver. And because that very good wide receiver is taking a lot of attention, you can kind of get your feet wet thrive. And if Justin Jefferson or whoever the wide receiver is that Keon Coleman gets drafted to be a teammate with ends up getting hurt. Like we saw having Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison was able to step up and be a pretty productive wide receiver. Yeah, he was. So Keon Coleman, he's got my stamp of approval. Just need to see a little bit of improvement in some minor areas. You know, nothing really too, too drastic. Right. Just, I mean, a focus drop here or there. But I mean, it's your past attempts too. He has a lot of Michael Pittman in him. When I watch him, he has those when he was coming out, he had that legitimate question of the route tree and his overall ability just to create separation. And now look at Michael Pittman, one of I think number one option for Anthony Richards now, Richardson's now. So this is a guy who we've seen his body type and his athletic, you know, his athletic build or whatever hit the market, hit the draft. And you know, it works. So he like you, he has my stamp of approval too, because he's got, he's that polarizing prospect that has, you know, everything that you see that you kind of want. And she's just going to take a little fine tuning for this guy and some tutelage from the veteran guys. Another wide receiver that I really like is AD Mitchell, 11 Texas, 62, 205, really long lean, very athletic, explosive long strider with a very impressive burst. Yeah, he's a mix of a four, three speed, bend efficient footwork, head fakes, he can really just put defensive backs on the blender. He shows glimpses of rare hand eye coordination, gathering, high difficulty throws like this is someone that is bound to make plays at the next level. He came from Georgia, went to Texas, obviously they went to college football playoff, he kind of reminds me of CD lamb. I feel like he, and I feel like he's more so like four, three, whenever you're having him just flat out run straight on the field, he plays a little bit closer to four, four. Yeah, like I don't know why like it's noticeably different between Xavier Worthy and him when you're watching the Longhorns tape. So I think that in terms of maximizing how fast he is, you just need to put that, I guess on display more often, like somehow get the ball in this dude's hands because he can only do what he's asked to do. I promise he's not running slow on purpose. Yeah, I just think as an offensive coordinator, wherever this guy goes, you need to try to maximize that because I think that the University of Texas and Steve's Archesian, they left a lot of meat on the bone. Yeah, they just had too many, they had too many mouths to feed in the first place. So this guy was kind of left in the bag burner a little bit. They had tremendous players all over the field. So I loved your comp like his high end for CD land, but we've seen this guy before. So I'm going to kind of counter that with like his low end. And so like if he doesn't live up to the hype that is brought on to him, I see like a little terrorist Marshall of how like his stature, his speed and everything. And a little bit of the questionable, you know, aspect of his game would be like, can he be that dog? Can he be that top end receiver that we know he could, Terish Marshall was a high draft pick was picked in to Carolina. I think at first round, I can't remember what pick it was, but it was very high. And I mean, he didn't really pan out. So those, we've seen this guy before with a lot of questions. I think there was an interview where he said that he wasn't even running at his whole time in Texas. He wasn't running his routes at full speed, but that's just let you know how well he can run his routes and still beat cornerbacks. But, you know, a little stuff like that always puts up a red flag in my head. So, you know, there's, there's a lot of questions with AD here. So hopefully there's in the interview process with all these coaches or all these organization, he nailed the out of the park because, you know, some of those things are like I said, just red flags. Hello, it is Ryan. And I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on chumbacassino.com. I looked over the person sitting next to me. And you know what they were doing? They were also playing chumbacassino. 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Let's talk about his teammate Xavier Worthy. 5'11", 165. Current record holder 4, 2, 1, 40. Goes 0 and 100 like that. I don't think he needs to go to an offense that runs the ball a lot. I do not think this guy's a blocker at all. Like I said, I mean-- He's slender, 165. If you go back and watch some Bijon highlights, there'll be a lot of times where some of the defensive backs that he had to juke out of their shoes are just outrun and break their angles. From him. Was because Xavier Worthy was getting even blocked down field. But this dude is literally one of the fastest wide receivers that we've seen enter the draft in a very long time. We've been talking about the 40-yard dash. He's got the fastest of all time. So clearly, this is a weapon. He's a manipulative route runner too. He's got a lot of stop and start in his game. His foot speed. I mean, legitimately, dude, it's close to-- Like, you don't want to just say, oh, it's like Henry Ruggs or it's like John Ross or the other fast 40 guys. This is like Chad Johnson. Someone that was actually a good wide receiver knows how to use his feet speed. Not just, oh, I'm going to run faster on the-- I'm just going to run by you. On the track. His frame is extremely light and lean. It's going to limit his viability, especially in contested situations. He's going to be forced to fix the little focus drop thing. That he had going on there as well. Contested drops. He doesn't have the most sure hands that you want out of a wide receiver. But the strength and physicality, you're going to want to get him inside of a NFL weight room with a training coach and a training staff that's going to really focus on getting this guy. It's going to be a nice beneficial. Some mass, I guess. You want to get a little bit of weight on this guy to add a little bit to his game. I mean, we've seen Devontay Smith thrive being on a really light frame, as well as other small slot receivers. I think worthy is going to be fine. I mean, the only way that he's not going to be considered like, quote unquote, like, ooh, a bust or we reached on him is like where he's drafted. If you reach on him just because it's 40, because that's the thing is we knew he was fast. Right? Like we knew this is an absolute speedster. Yeah, everybody was saying. One thing that I've really, it kind of stuck with me when I was listening to a scouting podcast a couple months ago, they were talking about this exact type of situation where the combine can almost blind you, or I guess, fog your vision a little bit, because sometimes people like to count things twice. Like if you knew Xavier Worthy was a very, very fast football player on the field, which should have been obvious if you actually watched his games and you get to the 40, you get to the combine and he just breaks the record 4, 2, 1, 40. Don't put a double check mark there by his speed. You already knew he was fast. Right. Like, so don't overthink it. Like, okay, like we knew he was going to be a, we knew he was going to be a freak athlete and test out of the roof. And that's exactly what he did, raised his draft stock. But I think now that things have kind of simmer down a little bit, maybe, you know, the high is worn off. And I think people are starting to realize back into the first top of the second round, I think, but there's a good chance he's going to be available on day two. Yeah, Worthy is just built for the modern era football. This guy is embodiment of speed, quickness. He's just going to be a dangerous player in the NFL once you give him space. Once you get an offense, that could work him with motions and get him out in the flat. So just get this guy at the ball with excellent blockers in front of him, guys who will put their bodies out on the line for him and, you know, really let him elevate his skills and grow as a NFL receiver. This guy is going to be amazing. He's a true route runner of vertical presence. His strengths, you know, I think they, in my opinion, outweighs his cons. So a guy that you can find Kansas City falling in love with, you know, guys like, you know, with established quarterbacks, you know, Josh Allen would love a guy like this. I think it would fall perfectly for a guy or a team like the Bills to direct a guy like Xavier here. But I know anywhere he lands, he's going to find somewhere to be impactful, whether that be special teams or as a wide receiver. Moving on here to another wide receiver, lad McConkie out of the New England Patriots. I apologize. Hey, this is one of my favorite guys. University of Georgia, not mine. 5'11" 186" caucasian wide receivers his Patriots. I think it's pretty clear that he has a specific landing spot that might make a little bit more sense than others. Bill Belichick isn't here anymore. So that, that, I don't know, that Bill, this is Bill Belichick's guy right here. This, if he was still in, in office. He almost wants to come out of retirement. He is officially retired. But he wants to, you know, maybe someone like lad McConkie who's got this type of profile, Yeah, this has Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick, Joshua Daniels would be absolutely drooling something from the mouth looking at this guy. Shit, I am. Elite quickness, foot speed, stop and start ability is a turbocharged technician that has the speed and explosiveness to threaten vertically and surge out of transitions. His head fakes, jab steps, it really allows him to win at all levels. He has strong hands over the middle, clearly a slot wide receiver that's going to thrive at the next level. He can reel in pretty much any type of catch that comes his way. His IQ and agility translate to his run after the catch, where he can just slither through crowds and things like that. But his average frame, below average length, catch radius, could knock him down a little bit in terms of some teams and like their thresholds that they might have. So I think that his authority and contested catches at the NFL level could be non-existent. I don't want to say completely non-existent because I've seen some bum-ass corners just getting mossed by some small wide receiver. He's going to get his, he's good enough, he's talented enough. But consistently, you're not expecting that. And his long-term durability could be a little bit of a question mark, given the back and ankle injuries that he suffered in 2023. But I think other than that, you're getting a pretty safe prospect here. One of the best wide receivers to come out of Georgia since George Pickens. Facts, facts. I love, I love Ladman. And this is, this is a guy who's a vet in the game. He's been, he's been there, he's seen it all. You know, this is a defender's worst nightmare with his, with his pair of excellent foot speed and just, just acceleration. He's got the quickest, you know, get out I've seen in a, in a Caucasian in a long time. He's, he's quick, he's shifty. This guy might as well be, you know, West Wilker 2.0, 3.0. This, this guy is, is phenomenal. He's legitimate and I would love for him to be in a Patriot uniform. Moving on here to Troy Franklin, wide receiver out of Oregon 6.1, 176. Nuance, horizontal and vertical manipulator with lateral twitch, tempo and sync. He's shown that he can really use his speed to bait off man and zone defensive backs into sub-optimal leverage. He's really good at using his length to make the high difficulty throws a little bit easier to catch, you know, like whenever someone's, he has to put it, the quarterback that is, a little bit out of the window to get it a little bit over defensive back or a little bit to the right or left out of the defensive backs reach. Troy Franklin is really good at making that look like the quarterback did it on purpose. You know what she probably did, but he makes quarterbacks look damn good by snagging those balls that are thrown a little bit out in front of him. He can use his creativity in space and cuts and jab steps to really disrupt tackling angles. He does have a lighter frame, a leaner build. I mean, it's kind of, you're asking, damn, is he going to gain more weight? You know, he's 6 foot 1, if you look at the way this guy is built, it's like, damn, how much more weight are we going to put on this guy? I don't know how great he is at getting off of press coverage. Yeah. Because he's really a timing wide receiver like. Quarterback's best friend. Yes, exactly. Like I said, like he's able to reach out and make those phenomenal catches, but if he's not there on his route at the top of the stem, then it's kind of tough to, you know, to let him do what he does best. Sometimes he likes to bring his hands a little bit too wide when meeting the ball. Can sometimes bring in some focus drops. But other than that, I mean, what you get in the second round is a decent wide receiver that has potential to, you know, be the wide receiver three on your team. Yeah, we are. If you have a couple of decent ones. We are getting to that second round it. We're for sure in day two already. Yeah, day two area. This is a guy who has, you know, the short explosiveness. He's not explosive as these guys that we've talked about before. She hell at lat is hell a lot more explosive than this guy. So you see the drop off from day one and day two, but still a guy that that'll give you the rotational piece that you need to give guys a breather and still not skip a beat with your offense. He will find a place where he could thrive and beat people's number two or even number three. And, you know, a guy could excel with a good quarterback, a good system and a good coaching behind them. Jalen Polk, wide receiver out of Washington, six foot one, two hundred and three pounds. Another fluid athlete. And this is one of my favorite things about a wide receiver is their ability to create separation. And Jalen Polk is great at that. He's really good at controlling space. He has the IQ, like a lot of these guys to really be deceptive. Make a cornerback think he's doing something else. Bam, stop on a dime. The quarterback knows similar to Michael Pinnix, who had another phenomenal season this year, puts it right on the money. And Jalen Polk's able to pretty much just do the rest. Really like his game. Like we said, moving on to the third round, that's pretty much just, you know, what you're getting there. Another one I really like. Exaverly get six foot one, two hundred and twenty one pounds from South Carolina. One of my true favorite wide receivers in this entire class. He does have the the compact and dense bath or mass. I apologize with my body and mass. Bath, we're getting to the show here as you can tell, but dude, this is someone like I'm probably more impressed with his catch radius damn near than anyone not named Marvin Harrison in this class. Yeah. Like he's able to pull down balls and he has elite explosiveness to combine that size with a speed that's really pretty much an anomaly. He can teleport upfield that almost seems at some points. He has that high end throttle control, stop and start. A lot of separation. Like I said, that's one of my favorite things about a wide receiver. Similar to Jalen Polk. And he's great at being aware about the blind spots. You know, he can really use his speed to bend and peel defensive backs or peel behind defensive backs. And when we were talking about the catch point, throwing the ball up 50-50, that's something that he has in his bag. And you know, you always want to appreciate that. Six foot one, not the tallest guy because you got six foot three, six foot four guys like Brian Thomas. And obviously, Kion Coleman, six foot one to get has a more like, you know, he's like Deebo Sam, I'm going to run you over type of thing. So I'm a big fan of what LeGette brings. Just a little bit older, 23 years old. You know, you can say what you want. He's very Southern. He's got a little Randy Moss in his voice if you listen to him talk. Yeah, he does have that Southern twinning to it. But he reminds me a lot of Demarius Thomas, what guy that will go up and get it with 50-50 balls are normally 60-40 in his aspect. This guy's built like a brick-shit house and will lay the wood. This is a guy who just had only two drops in 97 targets in 2023. Sure-fied hands, extremely good at elevating using his body to shield himself from from a Deebi and come down with balls. I love his grit, his physicalness in the game. He's just a specimen when it comes to finding wide receivers. I think he's going to be a sleeper in the draft. Teams are going to be extremely excited to find this guy, because he's going to he's a diamond and a rough in my opinion. One of my favorite receivers underutilized at the University of South Carolina. I think once Spencer got there, really reignited his career. But just the way their scheme was a lot of their plays, there was only two fucking receivers out running arouse. When people are running nickels and dimes, yeah, this kid's not going to get his touches because he's got fucking four pairs of eyes looking at him. But burst onto the scene as a top receiver. Once Spencer got there and better coaching, better schemes, it seemed like once they got into third and long, that's when they decided to go in the empty backfield and let the receivers actually run. And when they did that, he was special. I mean, this guy could be go as early as day one, in my opinion. So look out for this guy if you're really looking for a phenomenal day to pick. This is your man. Let's run through rapid fire here and mention a few guys. Roman Wilson, 510, wide receiver out of Michigan, 185 pounds, long strider, explosive, very elite explosiveness. I will say he knows how to attack open zones. Not really sure how high he's going to go because of his size. He's not very tall at all. So that limits what he's able to do, obviously. Ricky Persol, wide receiver out of Florida. He's been making the news or the newswaves here recently because of his tats. They've been getting, I think got like bed on me or something like that. Like a poker table on his forearm or something like that. It's not bad work. It's just people looking at it. Obviously they're going to be like, what the hell's going on? Malachi Corley, 5'11" out of Western Kentucky, 215 pounds. He's probably one of the most unique playmakers in the country, obviously. They call him the "Yat God" for a good reason. Incredibly gifted with the ball in his hands to a degree where he's rarely even seen, just whenever you're talking about like how just in the blink of an eye. How shifty this is. Like a more round two round three guy. Contact, balance, toughness, agility in the open field. Making him an absolute nightmare to tackle. Had to mention his name, absolutely. Tez Walker, he was a long story short. He transferred to North Carolina because his grandma was really sick. He wanted to be closer with him or closer to her, I apologize. And the NCAA was trying to make him ineligible. He had to miss a certain amount of time. But he does have some pretty good size, I will say, 6'11", 1993. And you know, obviously one of Drake May's favorite targets. He was once clocked over 23 miles per hour in-game. So long speed, you could definitely check that off the list. No doubt about it. Johnny Wilson, 6'6", 231 pounds from high school. When a 6'6", Wilson ran a 40-yard dash in the 4'5" range to the 23 off season. When Wilson was documented by Bruce Feldman as having 36-inch arms, 35-1/2" vertical, 10'5" broad jump, and a max speed over 21 miles per hour, the combination of side and speed should not be legal. And you know, he started off at Arizona State. Obviously, he was a former four-star recruit. Transferred to Florida State. And obviously, you know, he's probably the top receiving threat for Jordan Travis. 43 catches for 897 yards and 5 touchdowns. 20 yards per catch ended up getting second team. All ACC honors. Jermaine Burton, wide receiver out of Alabama. A 6'1.96", elite speed. Twitch up mover. Flashes advanced in spatial IQ. Obviously, the blind spot awareness is very important. Knows how to stem DBs. Sure hand, that's pretty much, you know, something that is not taken for granted. Like, if you have a wide receiver that you know is going to catch the damn ball, they're going to probably find a spot and then it fell roster. Just a lean frame, under 200 pounds, 6 foot. It's not necessarily what's going to get you in the first round, which is clearly why he could end up being a day three pick. Brea, we cannot end this episode without talking about Brendan Riley. I was going to ask you to. I'm a receiver out of USC, began his collegiate career at Colorado. Obviously, electric kick returner. 26.6 yards per return on 19 attempts. In 2022, rise transferred to USC to play for Lincoln Riley. Bless you. Thank you. And obviously, play with Caleb Williams, which he ended up getting a Heisman trophy. But as far as Brendan Rice goes, he's tall. He's a vertical playmaker who isn't a refined route runner. Dominant athlete in space is not something that you're going to see categorized to him. Bless you again. Thank you. But still, he has good speed, good size, good genetics to project as a very quality rotational piece, day three pick at the highest. But I think that's a good place for you and I to put a bow on this wide receiver. Episode creeping up on 50 minutes. Don't know how many wide receivers we talked about or mentioned, but it was a lot. This is the deepest position group in this entire draft class. So it deserved a. A lengthy one without a doubt. Yeah. So we had to get in here and do what we could to give you guys a, you know, a worthy episode. But I do want to thank you guys so much for tuning in and going on this ride with us. This was episode 497. So we only got a few more, two more to be exact before we are getting into episode 500. There's really nothing planned. I'm hoping that I could maybe get something planned. This is just kind of a weird time for episode 500, you know, or in the off season and things like that. And I would definitely like to have planned it a little bit better, but it is what it is. Maybe we can get a guest or two and do something fun. Maybe reflect a little bit. You know, we like to reflect. Yeah. We're, uh, take a trip down memory lane. We like to go down old memory lane. That's for sure. But anyways, thank you guys so much. I hope you all have a phenomenal rest of your week. I'm not sure which position we will do next. But we'll be ready for it. Let's stay in premium. We'll stay in the premium mode. Is it safe? Am I safe to say we can do corners the next time we talk? Yeah, man. Okay. Give people do cornerbacks the next time we talk and we will break it down. And obviously have it have a little discussion because that's all it is. I don't even like calling it a breakdown anymore. You know, I feel like that's, that's setting yourself up for ridicule. You know, we ain't, uh, because we're not professional scouts. But football is one of the more relatively easy things to, uh, learn how to pick up in terms of like knowing what to look for. Because you can watch hours of game film. You get to spend days watching tape. No matter if you don't know what you're looking for. So you have to definitely, I guess, figure that part out. And that once you do that, it's like riding a bike. You know, once you pick up a football game or just put a football game on your TV, you can just catch things to start looking at the game from a different angle. Like, what do you watch? Do you watch the ball get snapped and just follow the football? Do you watch the quarterback? Do you watch the offensive line? Your eyes just go in multiple different spots. Whenever you're watching a football game and there's things that you can notice. And that's why I'm really thankful for the Scouting Academy. Although I had a limited time learning from them. It was still very insightful. And you know, you really learn what the next level is looking for whenever you're scouting some of these particular players. But Terry, thank you so much for joining me. Obviously appreciate you going to the park with me earlier as well. But there'll be old pigskin around. Maybe fucking time. And I'm sure that tomorrow I will definitely be regretting that. It was fun. We get no dog, we get no. Like I said, have a damn good week. Funkeys walk passionately in the direction of your dreams. And we'll talk to you soon. [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]