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IT LIVE (10/31): Texas Longhorns on bye, what's up with deep passing?
Welcome to the Inside Texas Football YouTube channel, powered by InsideTexas.com. I'm Joe Cook, got Coach Dub, got Ian Boyd. There's another edition of IT Live coming to you on Thursday. Is the Biowake? There are no Biowakes here on Inside Texas. If you're here, make sure you like this video, subscribe to the channel. Of course, head to InsideTexas.com. You can join using the link in our description. Today, we'll talk a little bit about what's going on with Texas in the deep passing game. We'll also go over something. Our guide, Nash Talks Texas, just wrote about over on Inside Texas. Will the Longhorns have a running back for each 1000 yards? Of course, we'll get to your questions and comments. And we will also go over this week in the SEC, as we do every single week. Ian, what's it called? How do I phrase this? The term of the week in Texas Longhorns football is ADOT. And it's kind of been beaten down and people kind of beat up quin viewers over it. But you wrote something on Inside Texas and tried to look for an answer of why that ADOT's down. We have SARC's comments about like, "Toe the safety move up," or something like that. But what did your view of all 22 film tell you when trying to find an answer for why the deep passing game was struggling? Well, all the short stuff is open. A lot of it is wide open. When Texas, nobody had a problem with it when viewers were 17 for 19. And every check down and bubble screen was picking up 10 yards a pop. It was only when they often stalled that it was like, wait, the average depth of target is bad. The offense is garbage. They do need to get the ball down the field. That is going to be important. But when you watch the all 22 against Vanderbilt, there's nothing open deep. It wasn't an issue of like, quin viewers is refusing to pull the trigger or refusing to step up or something like that, which was the case at times against Oklahoma and Georgia. Oklahoma was bailing out of the pocket. Georgia, he didn't want to step up consistently until the second half. But against Vanderbilt, he was seeing covered receivers downfield, and then getting the ball to the check down quickly, which is what you want to do, because you want to get it there before they realize you're going to throw it and your guy still has space to make a move. And you mentioned one of the things that really made that difficult was match three coverage from Vanderbilt. And you know, it just kind of clicked with me. You know, who worked at Notre Dame with Clark Lee, pretty sure Terry Joseph did. Remember when we were talking about Terry Joseph's expertise when it comes to coverage, probably match three. So that just clicked for me makes a lot of sense. Why does that break down these deep routes? Like why and or maybe another way? Why doesn't that why doesn't Sarg have an answer for, you know, okay, we can still pass it deep against this coverage? Because the way they were playing it, like a lot of their plays, both safeties are like 12 yards deep at the snap, even 14 yards deep. And then one drops deep to the post, and then the other one kind of stays still or drops down a little bit to play a a curl flat zone or hook zone. And their corners would drop would play basically their deep defenders would play back, keep everything in front of them, and then maintain eyes on the route combinations. So like the post is pretty much never there because the post safety was on the post. And then the deep over routes, the Texas is always running that we've all seen Quinn hit a million times, right, to the guy running across the middle. They were trading off and picking that route up where they were looking for it and they were finding it. So your post isn't there. Your over route is getting picked up and that's not there. And then to throw this combination that Sark loves so much where it's like post over, and then you you punish the deep safety for whichever one he doesn't cover. The other guys would cover the over, the safety would cover the post, and then you usually to buy time to throw that, you're blocking with six or seven guys. You just have like, you have one other option, which is to check down or like a scramble. And so with their linebackers dropping deep and their deep guys be over, that just leaves the check down. And I'm one of those people who if you kind of have to view yards like you view them on the stat sheet, like 10 yards is 10 yards is 10 yards. And would you like the 31 yard pass? They got one. Would you like more? Of course. But if it's not there, Coach, is this one of those things where we talk about start just needing to be patient and live with what's available? Yeah, I mean, sometimes you got to be patient and take what's available. I know you want to take top off every defense and go get the deep ball or the lone ball. Everybody loves to see it. But honestly, you got to be patient. And most teams in today's area, they want you to be patient. See if you can be patient. That's that's the key because they're depending on you to make a mistake because everybody wants to score quickly. And when you can't, it feels like a struggle. But if you're really, really patient and you understand the offense, and I'm controlling the clock, I'm controlling the game, I wouldn't care if I was getting 10 yards a pop. But you got to be mentally locked in and say, that's okay. I can live with beating him by a thousand cuts, you know what I mean? He's the versus just chopping off the head, honestly. And I remember Sarc has talked about like the way he phrases it. He's like, I chewed out the play caller or like the head coach chewed out the play caller or something like that. When talking about like trying not to be stubborn. And we've seen what stubbornness looks like. And there was Oklahoma State two years ago. And now we see what I guess patience looks like. But it's just so these extremes are so jarring. They do also, there's they could try other route combinations down the field. Yeah. Like they were pretty vanilla against Vanderbilt. Like if if teams are playing with a cushion and trying to keep you in front of them and read everything, you can try curl routes, post curl routes. They hit one of those when they actually tried it. You could try to spread them out and throw underneath for not a check down, like maybe hit a slant or a stick or something. Or you can try double moves. Like how well do they stay on your guy if he's if he's executing a double move? If your guys are just running in lines that are predictable patterns, it's a lot easier to stay over the top of that. If you're trying like maintain leverage on a receiver and keep an eye on the over coming from the other side of the field. And then your receiver runs like a hitch and go or something, then it complicates it. Well, I they were pretty vanilla. And I don't think that they were to I think that Sark would rather it was happy to keep stuff off film. So coach, you can help me on this one, but it's it's week eight. Yeah. Like what what's the point of keeping stuff off film? You played eight games. You've played the three best teams or three of the four best teams on your schedule. Like is there a benefit to keeping stuff off film at this point? I mean, I'm sure there are some things and concepts he hasn't worked just yet. But maybe he doesn't feel confident running. Maybe didn't look good in practice. Maybe the percentages were not high. And so he didn't want to call it or, you know, put it on film because he just didn't practice it well. So he went and he was comfortable with it. And a lot of times, that's what most coaches do during the week. Whatever you're comfortable with, whatever you successful during practice, or you ran through the season, you're going to keep that same thing. You may make it look different with a different formation, but you're just going to run things that, you know, your guys could execute at a high level. And so when teams take that away, you do got to adjust. And sometimes you've got to trust the guys on the field to say, you know, we're going to run this concept. We may not be in good at it, but we're going to run at this game and kind of throw it out there and see how it works. But I think that's the issue, honestly, just running with the guys do well. I like this one from Jasper. Seems like our counter run game has been really good. Why don't we do more of that and play action off of it? They run play action off of counter a pretty good amount. Like when you see Hayden Conner or DJ Campbell, replace may not be the technical term, but like become the left guard or the left tackle. Like the keys, stop me if I'm wrong on here. The linebackers are reading like, oh, the guard is taking this step. They read their feet or their hips to see like, oh, he's already on the move, so they're running a counter this way. But then, you know, even though he's kind of softly getting to the point, like that first move is what fools him. So whenever you see the pulling guard and they still run a pass off of it, that's what they're doing. And that's that type of play predated Stark. Ian, are they good at running counter though? Because you had a pretty good grasp of the run game in a recent post this week. They're pretty good. They ran it five times for like 50 yards, which sounds really good. But they had two 20 yard runs on it. And one of them was like third and nine. And they caught Vanderbilt trying to like drop everyone way back, like more than more than they were on other downs, you know. So I mean, they're good at it, but it's it's not a cure all. They need the zone run game to be better. They had trouble with with it. It wasn't even just like the safeties. Like Vanderbilt's linebackers played like five or six yards off the ball. So even when they took a step forward on play action, they would then they would bail back into zone. And they were getting good drops. And the defensive line played a yard off the ball so that they were Texas had trouble with their zone combos against them. That there's a lot of stuff there that I don't think we're going to see that replicated to the same extent. We'll see. Coach, I'm throwing this one your way. I think it's from Sea Gaddis. Miss said Baxter believe we showed we can run a game a run game we always intended to have with Gibson at Michigan. Gibson's you know, kind of been not not very heavily utilized since then we have our multiple reasons why. But I agree with that first sentence a lot and see what your thoughts are on it. Yeah, we miss Fed Baxter. I mean, he's a big back who can run through tackles. I'll be curious to see how much more inside zone or vertical running plays we would have with him there because he can make a guy miss run through the whole or run through somebody run through some of those arm tackles. I believe the guys we have now each other utilize their speed with the outside zone. And the offensive line is blocking that better. They're not really getting the biggest push going vertical with inside zone anything else. So I believe that's I believe we stay away from it because we just don't execute it as well. Baxter, I believe you may since he's a bigger body, you probably would try that and live with getting two to three yards maybe and then maybe busting one later in the game. But I'm really don't understand. You know, I don't really know what the thought is behind, you know, not trying Gibson other than maybe he you don't trust him in past protection versus the blitzes because a lot of teams are starting to put pressure on us, bringing the nickel or something else. And so maybe just don't trust a young freshman's eyes where you could trust that Baxter who's been the program a little longer. They haven't created the situations for Jared Gibson to be able to be relied on, I guess to say. Like we see, I know we all talked about it on this video a ton that, you know, Vandy just like auto blitzed a lot from the nickel. And okay, if that if you're running stuff where that happens, that's not a situation where you want Jared Gibson in. I know people have looked at like that pro football focus grade. Yeah, you know, he's one for two, but that's the key thing. He's he's had two past pro opportunities. And I think that says a lot about what the Longhorn is saying. But I mean, if you can get into situations where even him being on the field, being the tell that it is, there's no problem. That that's a sign of improvement on the offense. Guys, if you remember the timeline of the injuries, they came pretty late in fall camp. So like Baxter was, I think Clark would have been ahead. I think I can't remember. Yeah. So so back to your county on Baxter, he gets hurt. And then your next guy up is, it sounded like it was more Clark than Gibson. So Clark is the one who had banked more reps. Clark was the guy that was going to be and then he gets hurt. And so I don't think Gibson got a lot of work in fall camp to nail down protections and things like the everybody else had. And that's partly why he's been so lucky when he comes in, it's usually like the red zone, right? When you're not worried about protection because every play is a run or an RPO or something. Yeah, it's it's telegraphing, but that's that's what they have to do at this point. 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You know, I don't think that I don't think it's the case that they don't have a bunch of answers waiting. I think it's that they just didn't, sorry, just didn't want to take risks or show things that they didn't have to use. And I'll just again, Quinn Ears looked basically like himself to me and now he's got the bi-week. So I think assuming that Michigan Quinn was not solely a product of months and months of preparation, I think we'll see more Michigan Quinn from here on out unless he gets, you know, heard again. One more thing on the passing game. If Florida bats down a Quinn Ears pass on the first possession, I'll squirt lemon juice into my eyes. Well, that'll make viewing the rest of the game for your UT parking, but we'll have you covered on here for the post game show. The other thing, Coach, when you're on the recruiting trail, how big is it to be able to point to a box score like we were talking about in stats and be like, this could be you, especially when they're gaudy stats, like having a thousand yard back? It's big because every kid wants to get to the next level and produce and say, hey, I could be that guy that produces a thousand yard back. We kind of heard a little bit when Justin mentioned Osborne being at the Georgia games like, man, if that was me, I would hit that hole and I would have took off, right? So kids can kind of envision themselves playing for the team that's recruiting them and being that guy who gets the stats and gets the yard. So it's huge. It plays a big factor. It shows that your offense is explosive, that you do use your running back. So if you're a receiver, getting them with a thousand yards, whatever the box score that you're looking at or stats you're looking at, it applies to your position. It's huge, man, because you want to be that guy. You know, that's how you get drafted. You want putting up your yard, you're producing. That's how you get to the next level past college. So it weighs a factor in recruiting. One of the things that Steve Sarkeesian always talks about and we've poked a couple holes in it, but it's mostly true. He says, I've always had a thousand yard back. And at Texas, that's been true. Bijon, Bijon, Jonathan Brooks. At Alabama for those two years, it was true. Najah Harris, Najah Harris. Even in the NFL, he had two, in his two seasons there, they got to a thousand total yards. The only time, and going back to Washington had a thousand yard rushing, Chris Polk, Bishop Sankey. The only time he hadn't had a thousand yard rushing or a back reach a thousand total yards was in 2008 at USC, his last year ahead of heading to Washington. And even then, he had three guys get 600 plus yards, which is impressive. But it looks like the dreams this year are on life support without Shwin, Trevian, Weisner, and Jaden Blue have fared so far. Weisner is 77, carries 490 yards. Blue 71 carries for 316 yards. Ian, I mean, do you think they get there even with a, I think they can get there with a playoff run, but in the regular season, it kind of seems like it's out of question. How many carries per game does Weisner average, like 15? How many carries per game does Weisner have average? Oklahoma when he took over? Well, let's see. Okay. He has had double digit since starting with the Mississippi State game. So 13, 13, 15, 17 since Mississippi State. Because he's averaging 5.3 yards per carry. Yeah. So he needs about 100 more carries over the rest of the season to get at that average, to get to 1000 yards. 100 carries would be 25 over the next four. Or it would be, he's just not gonna happen. Yeah. But you play an SEC Championship game, or you play two playoff games, you get to five or six games when that number goes to what? 20 a game, 18 a game at that rate is possible. It is. It is possible. What do we view as the culprit of this, Charlie? I really think just not finding the guy. You know, you were trying to find out who the guy was earlier. Thought it would be blue. And then Weisner's showing Oklahoma games that maybe he can be the guy, right? And then, you know, Georgia happened. But I think he showed again and get versus Vandy that, hey, he can be the guy who can show the carries and get the bulk of the carries and produce. And I think you probably see that kind of going forward. Maybe you can use him as the primary and use blue as a change of pace back, which are given that I think these next couple of games. I think Weisner has a chance to maybe go off and have a closer 200-yard game, right? And that'll help boost that and get him even closer to that. Playing Florida. The rest of the teams, I don't see anybody man playing maybe Kentucky. They have a front four, but maybe able to run the ball on them too. So you're probably able to get enough yards. It clips that 1000-yard mark going forward, because I don't see anybody else that can probably stop Texas running game consistently. When we had this discussion a lot right after Baxter got hurt. And even before then, we had this discussion about who's going to be the lead back. And there was thought that blue would be that. And he would get that 1000 yards based off of being able to bust a 60-yard run. And him having the best capability to do that. Not only get to the 20 yards that are upfield, but the other 40 that where you're running by guys. That hadn't really played out. I don't know if he's had, I'm trying to think of what his long run is this year. But he hadn't had a big home run like that. He's had some good plays in the past game. But I can't really recall a big home run play like that. And that's in addition to his reliability problems and ball security stuff that's definitely eaten into his ability to do that. Maybe not on the quote-unquote active roster. Would Baxter have been able to maybe get there with this O line the way it looks like, Charlie? Maybe he could because he has ability to break tackles and break those arm tackles. You can kind of see it even versus Vandy Trey and Blue. They tend to slip when somebody swipes at their legs. They almost lose balance. But Baxter's a little bigger back and a little sturdy. He probably run through a lot more arm tackles and get those yak yards. And so maybe he's able to break longer runs. I kind of saw him last year, the fourth in one versus Kansas State. He ran through arm tackle and then went to the house because he just has that ability. So maybe he has longer runs. He breaks for longer runs and a tang is more yards that way. But it starts with the guys up front too. You know what I mean? They have to be able to help these guys. And sometimes when the holes are there, they were missing them early on the season. Maybe Baxter wouldn't because he's more of experience back who has more carries than both of those guys combined. But maybe Baxter hits it. I'm not really not sure because the O line needs to be able to be more versatile and run more than outside zone. I actually think that outside zone is better suited to the big power back because outside zone, the back ends up cutting against the grain. And so having the ability to run through arm tackles is kind of like what you want on that scheme. That's why that's why like a Arian Foster or you know, all those big guys for the Broncos back in the day were so effective in it. Terrell Davis, they weren't even that fast. There's like quick feet and big. And so Baxter would have been a better fit for outside zone. These smaller guys tend to do better with like the gap and counter stuff where they can threaten to bounce or find open space. If we want to even like the guy who stood in for McCaffrey, like even he's been able to do that pretty well. And he fits that that kind of bill. Scott and Texas, the O line doesn't seem to be opening holes like they have previously what happened. We've been saying for about two years that this isn't a group that's fantastic at just clearing a path. They're good laterally, but it's just not their strength. And it's, I mean, I'm not saying that's like a bad thing. Like when you, well, actually, never mind, it is a bad thing not to be able to open holes like that. But I think it's just a result of, you know, what these guys strengths are like Hayden Connors played his best football of his career in these past few weeks, I feel like. But at the same time, like he's just not a guy who's going to get pushed in the ground game, like you would expect. I don't know why it's not happening with DJ Campbell. Yeah, you would think that right side of the line would make things a lot easier. But that hasn't hasn't been the case. There's only only two games though, where they've not been opening holes, which are Georgia. That's Georgia, you know. Yeah, why couldn't they blow George off the ball? Well, you know, and then Vanderbilt is like the weird one. So what's the like Florida, Kentucky, Arkansas, if you can't, if you can't get any push or get the right trades or open creases against those teams, yeah, then that's not gonna, this is going to get sticky and I think you had touched on this on the site this week. Do you think the complexity of the run blocking scheme is causing more broken assignments? Like we hear about how SARC says like the more things we can run well, the tougher it is for our opponents. There's a keyword there, run two words, run well. Is that, is that part of the problem? Is that they're trying to be Jack of all trades, masters of none right now? Yeah, I mean, it definitely looked like it against Vanderbilt when they were just not very good in the outside zone game. It's weird how much like, Texas is one of the only teams you'll see where outside zone is supposed to be this big, have this big of a role in the scheme, well, at the same time they're running all this other stuff. Like the Rams and the 49ers might have less in the run game than SARC and Fled do, or at the very least like wide zone is a bigger emphasis for them and they run it more than is a bigger percentage of the offense than Texas. So that could be it. I don't think so. I don't really think so on holding. But also, I mean, they've been good at it this year. Like this Vanderbilt game, I just don't, I don't want to leap too many conclusions off just one game. I think that's fair. And you know, I'm, I used to be very partial to like the, be a master of one thing. Like I like that idea, like just if you can become great at inside zone, do that and just do it over and over because you can still, you know, I know it's a little bit more limited compared to RPOs off outside zone, but you can still do it. And it's just one of those things where at this point, they, they, there's nothing that they've, it feels like they're, I don't want to say grasping because it makes it sound like it's just this dire problem, but it's just like, it's weak to weak. It's too uncertain. Like some weeks they'll be like, okay, we got this going. And then other weeks, we got this, we got this going. I think you can also look at, I mean, remember who's been playing running back back there? You have Bijon Robinson, who could turn a three yard loss into a three yard game. Roshan Johnson, who could, you know, fall forward every single time, even Jonathan Brooks, you know, running back one in the draft and it's like he's going to be back healthy for the Panthers this week. Like those were guys who could find yards, a few others could and Weisner and Blue, I don't think are there yet. That's a good point. So I think that's, that's a, that's a big part of it. And yeah, Drew Kelson, there you go. There was, weren't there some stats about like yards before contact with Bijon that you compared that to what his like yards per carry were and it was like three or four or yards before, like contacted in the backfield or something like that. Like he had something crazy where he would get touched in the backfield and then still get like a five yard game. Yeah, special. He, he, he did a lot. I think we see now, and even with Brooks, like we appreciate what those guys were able to do just by when they weren't there. We'll go back to the passing game because I like this comment from people's last year, deep balls were many times AD Mitchell contested catches. Don't see a dog like that this year allows Quinn to have a decent deep pass that can work. I mean, Matthew Golden kind of fits this bill. He does. Moore has pulled in multiple slot fates in the end zone. Yeah. Bond has been their most effective guide over the top. He maybe doesn't even have the best hands. I don't think it's, I don't think it's that. Gunner Helm. Gunner Helm. He's been posted up on people. You know what they, you know, we haven't seen that was probably there against Vanderbilt is the back shoulder fade. Like it's really hard to defend that from any coverage, but when you're like trying to keep the guy in front of you and then the quarterback throws it just under you, that's, it's just either the quarterback can throw it and he can catch it or not. And there's a defender. There's really not that much you can do about it. And they've not, it's not been a big part of the repertoire. I wonder, I wonder what it would look like if yours was throwing those. Well, I think we all kind of talk about how yours is like this finesse quarterback and I get that. He's got to throw with zip and that one route to Gunner Helm that everybody's like, Oh, Matthew Golden's open true. Not applicable, but that one route to Helm that's, he needs to be able to do that more often. And I get he's good at layering throws and stuff like that. But like, he, you got to get some opportunities for him to just zip it in there because he has the capability to throw through those windows. And that's what a back shoulder fade would have probably encouraged him to do. So there's a little bit of improvement for everybody. Before we keep on going, got to show left or other sponsor that is Andre the lawyer. This video is brought to you by Andre the lawyer. If you're injured, trust the team that secured millions for their clients and help thousands of Texans with their injury case, car wrecks, slip and falls, 18 Wheeler accidents, on the job injuries and wrongful deaths. Don't let insurance tell you what your claim is worth. Hire Andre the lawyer to fight for you. Principal offices in Dallas, but they serve Texans throughout the state. So don't wait and call Andre the lawyer today at 214-444-8808. That's 214-444-8808. That's 214-444-8808. The contact information is in the description. Did thank you to LC and Andre, of course. Did either of y'all have any takeaways from snap counts that I was able to unearth with with pro football focus, whether on offense or defense? I have not seen them. Yeah, I know you posted it. I think you're reading. Can you tell us some of the interesting stuff? A lot of it reveals what we know, and that's what numbers and stats do. I think there's essential personnel. The essential personnel on defense are Taff, Barron, Gilbo, Hill, Muhammad. A little bit of, you know, swishing around everywhere. They still rotate at defensive tackle, like they did when they had draft picks, like they did when they had all Americans. And then on offense, this six deep wide receiver core that we talked about, it's four deep. It's window, it's golden, it's more, it's bond. You know, offensive line being what it is. You kind of got to see what the depth chart appears to look like based off some of the, you know, garbage time snaps and things like that. The other, and then as far as other essential personnel on offense, Gunnar Helm, obviously, is in that group. Any of that stand out? Is there like a defensive guy your surprise wasn't in there? Hmm. What are the, what are the percentages of snaps for like, Broughton and Collins versus Lulea and Norton? Give me one second. Broughton and Collins have been on Collins 286, Broughton 283, Lulea 207, Norton 106. Norton is their, is their, I don't know, I was about to say he's their base nose, but yeah, it seems like they've been pretty willing to slide one of Broughton or Collins over and then just bring in Lulea for the other four I. And that's a testament to Lulea. I think, have all of y'all seen Charlie, like we kind of waited on one of those transfer defensive tackles to do a little bit of something and yeah, like Jermaine Lulea is finally he did the call. Yeah, you've heard his name the last few games when he stepped up his plate, you know, so yeah, like you said, you're waiting on one transfer guy to pan out and like he's been consistent last year games really making splash plays and showing up, you know, getting penetration, getting pressure on the quarterback and really planning to run game well. He's getting off blocks really well, really fast. And so yeah, he stepped up, maybe that can see the difference between his snaps and Norton's. And Norton's a big plugger got to gap guy. I really haven't think they really haven't played anybody. So maybe Georgia who can try to just run at them or try to anyway, whether versus they need a more speed, especially playing down the line, like playing Vanderbilt last year last week, need somebody who can kind of move down the line and play quicker versus just plugging. So maybe that's the reason, but maybe they're just Norton's specialty, you know what I mean? You need him on goal line. How many people have reached a goal line versus Texas? Not many. You don't need him as much, right? He's a big guy. One of the things that we got to think about is that we're probably going to see Lolais start against Florida. And I think he started against Michigan because Michigan was going to get into like a big set. And so they were going to go with the, you know, three defensive tackle look, but Lolais with brought in out for the targeting, they're going to need him for a half against Florida. And I'm curious how that might, you know, looking a little bit ahead, how that might be something that helps or hurts Texas against the Florida offense. Hey, Joe, what's up? Can you see, can you see the snap counts for Oklahoma defensive lineman easily? If you give me like 30 seconds to what are some of the, what's some of the data you're looking for? You're looking for Dominic Williams. I want to see Dominic Williams, who has the exact same number of tackles for loss this Jermaine Lole, which is two and a half. Okay. Oh, man, we always got to bring it back that route. Don't wait. Okay. For rough, they have almost the exact same stats in terms of tackles, tackles for loss and sacks. All right. And Jermaine Lole, yeah, I believe you said Lole had played like 206 snaps. Dominic Williams is at 265. Oh, interesting. And among defensive lineman for Oklahoma that leads. They, that was such a coup, where they went all in to get Williams and then lost Lole who caused, I don't know the figures, but maybe half as much and has been giving Texas as much as Williams has given Oklahoma who won the great defensive tackle auction of our bidding war, whatever you want to call it a 2024. I, I think I might have found something to go over this weekend. Yeah, maybe even today, Texas will against Oklahoma. It seems like Oregon, you know what, we lost freaking. Who's that? He's the U of H one. Yeah. Well, Jamari called well. Oh, well. He was, that was, he would have been nice. The real big one. I, I thought the prize of that portal cycle was a guy who went to Miami. I think it's like, what was the name, Cindy and Barrow? Not the Michigan State kid, right? Michigan State somehow too great. Yeah, defensive tackle. The other one, the other one has been, the other one has not been that great at Oregon. The more slight one. No, Barrow's the slight one. The big one went to Oregon. The big one went to Oregon. And if you watch, uh, John's, he's harm, harm, harm and harm and harm and harm. No, harm and has not been that good. Really? Yeah. Let's see. Boise was pushing him around. He's been, uh, two, he's their snap leader, 297. Pro football focus thinks a little different, but, um, that is what, whatever you want to make of it. Well, they, I think he was better against Ohio State. And he, he may have been better since, but, uh, he was not great against Boise State. He was a tank against Ohio State. That's his best part of the game. Yeah, that was the best game he showed up. And that doesn't surprise me because they played, they played a bell in that one. Yeah. I really liked Harmon. Um, I liked him. I liked Dominic. I probably went like Harmon, Williams, Barrow, Norton, kind of at the time. Um, and now I think we're kind of seeing that, you know, we, we all kind of drove up what they, we thought they're, uh, we drove up their, their impact just because of their scarcity. And we, I think we addressed that at the time, but also it's just one of those things where they were in the portal for a reason. Um, yeah, anything else or do you want to go over what's going on in the SEC this week? Yeah, let's see what else. Let's see what else is going on. All right, let me find it. This week in the SEC got a rivalry game. Um, big pressure on those two guys. Yeah. Here we go. Ole Miss at Arkansas, six and a half point favorite. Have you all seen, uh, it's an 11 a.m. game? Did you all see Lane complaining about not getting night games at home? I know this is a road game, but you all see Lane talking about like, why do we keep having to go play at Tiger Stadium at night? And everybody comes here and gets to play the Rebels at 11 a.m. Yeah, I caught the, like, this little snippet of him saying that I don't know, I think he's going to be laying, I think he's got a point. And looking at the TV stuff like ESPN has an 11 a.m. and then SEC network has 1145. And then they want ABC like that they want these big games on at night. And I guess Ole Miss just hasn't gotten them at home. But looking at this one, Ole Miss at Arkansas. I'm kind of surprised Ole Miss is a six and a half point favorite. I feel like it might be a little bit. I think that number is too big, honestly. Um, for me, it's which Taylor and Green shows up Arkansas. He shows up and he's balling and I got Arkansas winning that one, but we really just don't know because it's kind of up and down, but we'll see. I'm gonna, I'm sure like Monday, Tuesday and next week, I'm just going to be right in Texas by week, or Texas future opponents and how they played while Texas is on by. And so I, I've not really gotten good eyes on Arkansas yet. I don't have a great feel for them. And I'm gonna, this game is going to be a really helpful barometer for me and measuring them. One of the, one of the big like national conversations about college football is like, can you portal an offensive line? And like, you know, Colorado is the, the main place where people are talking about that. Um, but Arkansas did it too in five and three. I mean, at there, but that went over Tennessee and that it could be six and two if they had gotten things right with Texas A&M like, Sam Pittman knows what he's doing. Um, how does Arkansas win this game? I'm gonna say ball control, almost like Kentucky did. Uh, if they can run the ball, they're running back to healthy. Taylor's doing pretty good. Uh, not turning the ball over. Arkansas has a pretty good solid defense. They can just play ball control versus Ole Miss shorting the possessions down from them. I think they got a chance plus they're playing at home. So they have to cry out. And we know that crowd is a little ruckus in Fayetteville. So, um, I think that's how they win the game. Does Ole Miss have like a good run, Russ defense? Yeah. They have, Nolan has been, Nolan is the actual price portal detackle. It's just that nobody even got in on that because Ole Miss was all over it from the beginning. Yeah. And then, oh, speaking of the other guy, Overton, uh, who went from A&M to Bama, that's done pretty well. Um, but, yeah, I feel like if Arkansas wins this, it'll be low scoring. And if Ole Miss wins this, it'll be like 38, 17, something like that. Um, let's go to Hugh Freeze's nightmare. Uh, Vanderbilt at Auburn. Um, Auburn seven and a half kind of makes sense. Um, they need another PIVIA game. I mean, I feel like that's, that's the way they, they figure it out. You know what? But Vanderbilt lives off all the things making mistakes. And Auburn makes a ton. So, um, that's, yeah, I don't see how Auburn's favorite it is. Um, isn't Thorne, Thorne's not playing this game, right? He's out, right? He's hurt. Uh, I didn't even have to look at the intro thing. He'll give a few turnovers. So if he's not playing, maybe that could be a reason why. But, uh, I trust, you know, Vandy to bounce back versus Auburn, um, just because they don't, they turn the ball over too much. Uh, Thorne is not on the injury report. Okay. So I think he'll be fine. Um, and then looking at Vanderbilt, uh, none of their big three are, are out or on the report. So yes, clearly getting accumulating injuries, though. Yeah. Yes. I agree with. And you know, we, we saw that play out with, I know he, he talks about how he, he idolizes, uh, Johnny Manziel, but he plays a lot more like, like Sam Ellinger does. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Hey, like, like I mentioned on one of these shows the other day, Brian Harson's record when he got fired from Auburn was nine and 12. Hugh Freeze's record at Auburn right now is, uh, nine and 12. So, um, yeah, I like that mistake thing. I think that that makes a lot of sense. Um, let's see. Maine at Oklahoma. I looked this up just to see, like, if Maine is a, obviously the Dakotas and the Montana's are the class of FCS. If you, if you weren't aware, like North Dakota State, South Dakota State, um, and then Montana and Montana State, those, those teams have kind of separated themselves into FCS as the, the elite tier. Um, after that, there's kind of a weird, weird middle, like Villanova's been up there. Um, sometimes in HBCU, I think gets up there, but there's, there hasn't been like an elite HBCU. Same thing goes for the Ivy's. So Maine is not like, they're, they're not going to be in the SCS tournament. Like this isn't a good FCS team. It's an average FCS team. And yet you, you still wonder. I think, uh, I think Oklahoma will turn them over seven times because Maine's not used to getting blitzed or hit like Oklahoma's going to hit them. And that should be, that should be enough. I wonder if they played both quarterbacks, like, hmm, I bet they will. They'll probably be able to. Joe, Joe, you'll like this. I heard, uh, I heard from, um, some kids with more taps level experience in the Texas high school football that some of their friends played against, uh, Highland Park. And they were like, that was very different. Everybody on Highland Park hit a hundred times harder than anyone in our league. I think that's going to happen to Maine. Yeah. Uh, I mean, my, my tech, Thomas stinks this year, but they went to this taps finals. Um, Parrish has good players. Uh, John Paul too. They got good players. But they don't have like the team depth and especially at a place like Highland Park where, you know, they even, even someone like going to Tulsa is different than the guy who's playing football and has got to study for the chemistry exam tomorrow. You know, it's, it's different. And that's, I think a good comparison for what we're going to see. The black bears versus, uh, versus the Sooners, um, cocktail party. Yeah. Last one in Jacksonville for a couple of years, while they redo the stadium, 16 and a half going to see lagway. And, uh, I hope Mr. Lagway is, is ready for what might be heading his way. Is there, is there a path to victory for Florida here? Hmm. That's, uh, yeah, on the Carson Beck, this likes to go to the other team, maybe and keeps them in the game. That may be the only way. Uh, maybe they try to take some of what Alabama did run. I know they're going to try to run that way. Maybe like Mill Road did maybe. Uh, they got athletes, but Georgia doesn't turn the ball over. I don't, I don't see a chance for Florida. For Florida, also Florida cannot turn the ball over. Yeah. Like they, they, they've been a lot better on defense recently, right? Yeah. It's the word decent level. Their boy wonder defensive coordinators finally got them figuring out what they're supposed to be doing. Uh, this is another one where I have not washed a ton of Florida and I'm going to use this weekend to start to get a better gauge for what Texas is facing. I think, uh, the difference between Florida and Alabama is like their, uh, their lines are, the lines aren't comparable in offense. Right. Quarterbacks, similarities, there's no, there's no Ricky Piersall. There's no Ryan Williams. There's no like, receiver that Georgia probably really has to worry about. Heck, I don't even know if there's a running back. And if there was, he's playing for Georgia right now. Um, do you, Joe, do you keep Napier if he gets to six wins? Who I was listening to one of the big, uh, national podcasts. And I think it was kind of viewed in context of Florida. Like, if you're Florida, you're going to want a team, you're going to want to coach who's doing good things. So that means the playoff. Well, that runs into like January or late December. Like the, the schedule of the carousel is so different now. Oh, yeah. You got to find a place in the athletic department to pay these kids 22 million starting July 1st, 2025. Like, I think maybe not necessarily at Florida, but like across the board, you're going to see maybe an extra year of patience and then maybe an early trigger early next year. Yep. I think so too. Well, and here's another thing. Like, what if, if lag wage like jumps in the portal at all, then then I'm like, okay, what's the future here? Right. And then you start over. Um, kind of looking at Florida, appreciate it. AR. What would you look for in Florida when they do play Texas? You did mention that you're going to use this weekend to get some more info on them, but anything off the top. I mean, lag is what's going to draw everybody's attention, I feel like. Yeah, definitely lag way what they're asking him to do and how effective he is in it. Um, and then that feels like, uh, it's like, are you going to beat Texas this year with DJ lag wave freshman quarterback? Probably not. That part feels good, but you want to see what he's capable of and what he's doing. Um, the Florida defense and how they're playing past defense is the big one. Because I know they have some big guys, they have like some 400 pound tackles that they rotate up front. They're hard to run on. They're hard to move. Uh, they got princely. Who's probably going to be looking to see. Oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, you're right. Uh, oh, even better than they've got whoever they've got, whoever's playing edge for them now. Um, I want to see, yeah, what their past defense and secondary looks like. If it's really good, then it could be a tight game. And if it still has issues then between that and lag way, you would think Texas is going to be favored big. Yeah. Um, I feel like we can skip UMass at Mississippi State. Well deserved. Yeah. Chase victory for Bulldogs. That'll be, uh, I think UMass is joining the Mac next year, so we won't have to worry about teams playing them in the middle of the year. Um, and one thing just before we get to, uh, A&M, um, where is it? Ryan Nelson had it. Georgia's second loss. If it happened, next week will be in Oxford. Only be about a two and a half point favorite and that pairs well with a UT partner rooting for chaos, rooting for Arkansas, South Carolina, Florida and Kentucky. Yeah, Texas needs to obviously keep winning. Uh, but they also need all those one loss teams or zero loss teams in the, in one case to start racking up losses because the tie breakers, we kind of talked about it on inside Texas on the board yesterday. Uh, we'll probably have some, some content on it later today. 16 teams with only one team playing seven or eight of them, like it just creates a lot of different chaos and the big 10 is going to be worse. Uh, if it comes to bear for that. Um, Texas A&M at South Carolina. Charlie, which quarterback you starting? I'm going to read. I don't think, um, Wigman wants to face that South Carolina D line. These essentially like the exact same teams, man, like a dominating front for, uh, offense running quarterbacks. We're still trying to figure it out of the scenes, but South Carolina playing at home and if they don't, they don't turn the ball over and they're able to play. Well, I think they really have a chance to be A&M, but I'm playing Reed as my quarterback. I think he just gives in him a way better chance of winning. Um, I want to see him throw the ball more, but I want to see what he does. Um, he has a chance to escape from that pressure that South Carolina is going to bring Saturday. I'm really curious on, I mean, like you said, I think A&M and South Carolina are similar. I think A&M's got a little bit more talent, but they have a lot of the same strengths. Yeah. And another thing is, I know it's not something we're probably familiar with, but Williams Bryce stadium at night is supposed to be a real tough place to play. And the team hasn't always lived up to the environment. Uh, but they get, they get pretty rowdy there at, at Willie B. If you all seen the move, I know I mentioned it on here before, if you all seen the movie, the program, they filmed it there. Yeah. And you, I, you have to watch it, like, please. Yeah, I'll try to find it. Is that the one where they're like, the one, the one scary, dude? They're like, what's your assignment? And he's like, kill the tide in. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's where kill everybody's from. Um, there's a, there's a character in there who looks very much and acts very much, uh, has a lot of similarities to a former Texas defensive end. Um, you know, I'm talking about, don't you, Charlie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think A&M wins it. But I want to see Reed have to go through some adversity and maybe pass the ball to know more about baggies. And that's a rivalry somehow. Like they have it like a trophy for it because that used to be their cross division rival. Um, yeah, rivalry game in Columbia. Last, last one, Kentucky at Tennessee. Um, Ian, anything on this one? Uh, I think this one's going to be really tough for Tennessee. 16 and a half is crazy. Uh, I think people are like, Kentucky has struggled to defend Tennessee in the past, but Tennessee's passing game has not quite been there this year. And I don't, I think, I think this is going to be a lot tougher than 16 and a half for them, even at home. The one thing about Kentucky is they've had not, not just red zone goal line failures over the past few games. Like, they're not great. No. And I think, are they still kind of doing the, we may or may not start rock vanna griff thing? Oh, I didn't know about that. I know about that one. I, I think I'll have to look that up. Um, I thought there may have been a, yeah, we'll see if he's a quarterback going forward. Um, he's not on the, he's not on the injury thing. But I think that's, it's just a bad situation. They're ready for basketball season. Um, and as I should be, uh, with a game like that. So, well, made it through the buy. Just got a few more days left, but make sure we will be here on Inside Texas, keeping you up to date. Like this video, subscribe to the channel. We'll have a lot more over the course of this weekend. Of course, head to inside Texas.com. We'll be waiting for you. The link is in the description. Thank you to our sponsors, Charlie and thank you. 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