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Ep. 2459 Jordan Peterson Leaves Woke YouTuber SPEECHLESS!!!

Duration:
18m
Broadcast on:
28 Mar 2024
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In this episode, you’re about to hear an absolute masterclass on how to handle a pugnacious woke leftist in issue after issue after issue!

Let’s analyze how Jordan Peterson literally dismantled leftwing propaganda so that you can do the same!

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Highlights:

  • “Peterson is echoing the work of the Danish statistician Bjorn Lomborg and Marian Tupy of the CATO Institute, and many others who all recognize that technological progress and environmental health are not at odds. That innovation, particularly voluntary entrepreneurial innovation, is the key to solving environmental issues, not top-down government mandates, which are, in the end, doomed to fail!”
  • “What Peterson is simply pointing out here is that such activism and its efforts to ‘save the planet’ have a lot in common with the universal utopias envisioned by modernist sentiments that ended up being cataclysmically disastrous.” 

Timestamps:      [01:35] WEF’s green initiatives make the vast majority of the world’s population poor

[06:20] Why people who are concerned about climate change can be compared with Hitler

[11:45] How Peterson exposed this liberal YouTuber as little more than a shill for Big Pharma

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*All clips used for fair use commentary, criticism, and educational purposes. See Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017); Equals Three, LLC v. Jukin Media, Inc., 139 F. Supp. 3d 1094 (C.D. Cal. 2015).

Are we seeing the revitalization of conservative civilization? All over the world has been a massive backlash against globalization, its leftist leadership, and its anti-cultural liberal values. And it's just the beginning. I'm Dr. Steve Turling. I believe the liberal globalist world is at its brink and a new conservative age is rising. Even me every day as we examine these worldwide trends, discover answers to today's toughest challenges and together learn to live in the present in life of even better things to come. This is Turly Talks. That's another thing. I'm not sure if people actually care about gigantism or if they're using it as a proxy for other things that they don't like. Like I could totally imagine... Do I care about it? Sure. Yeah, you might. Sorry. Because I could imagine somebody saying that they don't trust a large government, they think there's too much prone to tyranny or something like that, but also be supportive of an institution like the Catholic Church, which is literally one guy who is a direct client of God. Right, but they can't tax. Well, and they don't have a military. That is... And they can't conscript you. True. Right. And they can't throw you in jail. That is true. Stop. Stop. He's already dead. Kang, what you're about to see is an absolute masterclass on how to handle a pugnacious woke leftist in issue after issue after issue. I'm Dr. Steve, your patron professor, and we're going to analyze how Jordan Peterson literally dismantled left-wing propaganda so that you can do the same. I think it's pretty undeniable at this point that there is an impact on climate across the planet. I just don't... I think that's highly deniable. We have no idea what the impact is from. We don't know where the carbon dioxide is from. We can't measure the warming of the oceans. We have terrible temperature records going back 100 years. Almost all the terrestrial temperature detection sites were first put outside urban areas, and then as they're white. And then you have to correct, then you have to correct for the movement of the urban areas. And then you introduce narrow parameter that's larger than the purported increase in temperature that you're planning to measure. This isn't data. This is guess. And there's something weird underneath it. There's something weird that isn't oriented well towards human beings underneath it. It has this guise of compassion. We're going to save the poor in the future. It's like that's what the bloody communists said. And they killed a lot of people doing it. And we're walking down that same road now with this insistence that we're so compassionate that we care about the poor 100 years from now. And if we have to wipe out several hundred million of them now, well, that's a small price to pay for the future utopia. And we've heard that sort of thing before. And the alternative to that is to stop having global level elites plot out a utopian future or even an anti dystopian future. And that's exactly what's happening now with organizations like the WEF. And if this wasn't immediately impacting the poor in a devastating manner, I wouldn't care about it that much, but it is. I watched over the course of the last five years, the estimates of the number of people who were in serious danger, food privation, rise from about 100 million to about 350 million. That's a major price to pay for a little bit of what would you say for progress on the climate front that's so narrow, it can't even be measured. >> I don't think the increase in hungry people on the planet is because of climate policies. >> Why not? >> Because I don't think that countries in Africa are being pushed away from fossil fear. >> Yes, they are, they can't even get loans from the World Bank to pursue fossil field development. And there's plenty of African leaders who are screeching at the top of their lungs about that. Because the elites in the West have decided that, well, it was okay for us to use fossil fuel so that we wouldn't have to starve to death and our children had some opportunities. But maybe the starving masses that are too large a load for the world anyways shouldn't have that opportunity. And that's direct policy from the UN fostered by organizations like the WEF. They're gonna have to turn to renewables. Yeah, well, good luck with that. >> Yeah, good luck with that bucko. >> By the way, that's the far leftist YouTuber named Destiny. Now what Peterson said, there's absolutely right. The African entrepreneur, McGat Wade, has long sounded the alarm on how the World Bank simply won't give any loans to African ventures precisely because they don't have the pre requisite green initiatives that the WEF, the World Economic Forum insists on. And so as a result, the cost of energy and resources have soared for Africans all the while unemployment and starvation increase. And so the way around that is to get energy and resources at the lowest possible cost as rapidly as possible to the largest number of people around the world. That's what Peterson in effect is advocating here. He's echoing the work of the Danish statistician Bjorn Lomberg and Marian Tupi, the Cato Institute and many others who all recognize that technological progress and environmental health are not at odds. That innovation, particularly voluntary entrepreneurial innovation, is the key to solving environmental issues, not top down government mandates, which in the end are just doomed to fail. Lomberg in particular has pointed out that even if we did everything in the Paris Accord, everything, every single thing required, all of that effort would amount to a reduction of temperature by the end of the century to no more than 0.5 degrees Celsius. And to add insult to injury, those futile efforts make the vast majority of the world's population poor and put hundreds of millions of people in the state of food insecurity. So Peterson and a number of others are proposing the precise opposite. Let's push for industrialization and technological innovation to continue to lift populations out of poverty like we've seen happen, for example, in China and Singapore and are now seeing in nations like Rwanda, interestingly enough, while at the same time investing in all kinds of alternative green energies that will be voluntarily and widely embraced to found to be cheaper, cleaner and more abundant than fossil fuels. So Hitler's cover story was that he wanted to make the glorious third Reich and elevate the Germans to the highest possible status for the longest possible period of time. Okay, but that wasn't the outcome. The outcome was that Hitler shot himself through the head after he married his wife, who died from poison the same day in a bunker underneath Berlin while Europe was inflamed. Well, he was insisting that the Germans deserved exactly what they got because they weren't the noble people he thought they were. And then you might say, well, Hitler's plans collapsed in flames and wasn't that a catastrophe or you could say that was exactly what he was aiming for from the beginning because he was brutally resentful and miserable right from the time he was, you know, a rejected artist at the age of 16. And so he was working or something was working within him and something that might well be regarded as demonic whose end goal was precisely what it attained, which was the devastation of hundreds of millions of people and Europe left in a smoking room. And the cover story was the grand third Reich. And so there's no reason at all to assume that we're not in exactly the same situation right now. I think there's a great reason to assume. I think that Hitler's motives and everything that he was trying to do wasn't a secret. Like, I don't think that anybody had the gas that he was incredibly anti-Semitic, that his aerates of primacy was going to lead to the destruction and the murder of like somebody of different people in concentration, he was like, none of this was a secret. He was hiding it. >> He didn't want it. >> I mean, like he tried to maybe hide the death camp. So nobody in Germany was wondering like, wow, crazy that the programs are happening as Jewish people. That's so crazy. Or wow, they're all being shipped to just mainly the Jews to camps to work, like that's kind of interesting. Or wow, he talks about this a lot in mine conf, but maybe it's just a coincidence. I don't think you could compare like Hitler to people that don't worry about climate change. The worry that I have here is- >> Why not? >> Because if we're applying- >> People thought people in Germany thought Hitler was perfectly motivated by the highest of benevolence. >> If I want to take this standard of evidence and apply this lens of analysis, couldn't I say the exact same thing about the conservative constellation of belief? They don't want to intervene anywhere in the world because they don't care about the problems there. They're anti-immigration because they hate brown people. Trump wanted to ban Muslims to come to the United States because he's xenophobic. Conservatives don't want to have taxes to help the poor because I almost feel a starve and die in the winter. But like, I feel like if I- >> Some of that's true. Now I play that because first I love how he confronted him with. Oh, you can't compare people who are concerned about climate change with Hitler and Peterson's just like, why not? Why not? But that exchange is very limited of how ignorant this fellow destiny is in the analysis of world views. What he fails to recognize is that Nazism, fascism, and like, are all distinctively modern political systems. In other words, political ideologies such as fascism, communism, and yes, Western liberalism all come out of the 18th century, enlightenment, and it's quest for a universal political and economic system. In other words, a one-size-fits-all political and economic system that could be imposed upon the entire world. And what we basically got were three options coming out of modernity. Three universal contenders, Western liberalism, Soviet communism, and Nazi fascism. And what Peterson is simply pointing out there is that such activism and its efforts to quote, save the planet, have a lot in common with the universal utopias envisioned by modernist sentiments that ended up being cataclysmically disastrous. That's his point. The contemporary conservative movement, as embodied by Magga and the various European so-called far-right parties, by contrast, are post-modern. They overtly reject the universal aspirations of modernity and instead embrace the geographic specificity of nation, culture, custom, and tradition. And so while that embrace can run into its own problems, for sure humans never fail to disappoint, those problems do not pose anywhere near the potential for global catastrophe as modernist movements of which environmentalism is one of the worst. Hey gang, have you ever wanted to explore historical cities with a group of courageous patriots, but now is your chance to embark on an exclusive adventure with me, Dr. Steve, and other patriots like you, as we set sail on the Mediterranean. You are invited to join us this August on Royal Caribbean's luxury liner, The Voyager the Seas. 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We can talk, absolutely did, because a decrease of trends are getting affected. It didn't destroy, it didn't get rid of transmission, but it reduced transmission. Yeah, but it was claimed that it would get rid of transmission. Only if you take one reading of one single quote, I think that Biden said one time where he said, no, come on, Biden, one time on the news says, if you get the vaccine, you won't transmit the disease. That is so soon. Everybody talks about freedom and not to have a shot or have a test. Well, guess what? So how about patriotism? How about making sure that you're vaccinated so you do not spread the disease to anybody else? What about that? What's the big deal? No. Do you know that our prime minister in Canada deprived Canadians of the right to travel for six months because the unvaccinated, we're going to transmit COVID with more likelihood than the vaccinated? So this wasn't one bloody statement. Hold on. What I'm saying is there wasn't a statement given that if you get vaccinated, there is a zero percent chance of transmitting the disease. The idea is that vaccines were supposed to help. Fine. It reduces your hospitalization, it reduces death, and it reduces transmission, hopefully by making it so that people don't get sick or don't get sick for as long. All three of those things, the vaccines did exceedingly well. They were tested. The myocarditis rates are like seven out of 100,000 injections, and the marketitis is generally acute. And it's generally not as bad as even getting the coronavirus itself, which will lead you also to have a microservice. There's so much more side effects than side effects that have caused other vaccines to be taken off the market before. So a seven out of 100,000 rate of acute myocarditis or pericarditis is not a worse side effect than any other vaccine. I think that is a completely acceptable given that the disease itself is more likely to cause myocarditis or pericarditis. Yes, I don't think the data suggests support that presupposition anymore. The latest peer-reviewed study showed that that's simply not true, especially among young men. I told you at the beginning of this conversation that the progressive leftists were on the side of the pharmaceutical companies. It's not about being on the side of the pharmaceutical companies. Really? Really? Yeah. Well, I see. So what I see as the unholy part of that alliance with the pharmaceutical companies is that it dovetails with the radical utopian's willingness to use power to impose their utopian vision. Otherwise, how would you explain it? Because the leftists should have been the ones that were most skeptical about the bloody pharmaceutical companies. And they jumped on the vaccine bandwagon in exactly the same way that you're doing right now. Pharmaceutical companies have helped us tremendously. Yeah. Right. There we go. Fine. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. You're just wrong. I think you're absolutely wrong. I see. So you don't think that the pharmaceutical companies who dominate the advertising landscape with 75% of the funding are corrupt? I don't corrupt as a very broad. No, no, no, it's. Do you think that? Do you think that corrupt? With a tinge of malevolence, willing to extract money out of people by putting their health on the line? Do you believe that? Do you think that we get effective drugs from pharmaceutical companies? Not particularly. Wow. That was quite the exchange. But the beauty of it all was how Peterson and he had just exposed this liberal as little more than a shell for big pharma. And this is all part of what we often talk about on this channel. It's all part of what scholars call the rise of refutilization, where our society is increasingly resembling the kind of caste system akin to the class structure of the Middle Ages. So at one level, we've got a massive amount of power and wealth being accumulated and centralized in the hands of very people, very few people, made up of billionaires and bureaucrats. But at another level, we're seeing today a comparable kind of religious fanaticism, not through a clerical class, not through the church, but through what's called a clericy class, a pseudo intellectual class, dedicated to woke fanaticism made up of race and gender and sex. And these twin dynamics are shaping what scholars increasingly call a neo-futilized society, where bureaucrats and billionaires are teaming up to create a top down governance structure that's accumulating unprecedented levels of power and influence, but at the same time that's happening, we're seeing more and more billionaires and bureaucrats enforcing a highly woke dogmatic ideology that's designed to destroy any legitimate basis for dissent. And so the key here is that radical woke fanaticism actually protects the power and affluence of the billionaire and bureaucrat by silencing any and all opposition to neo-futilized dynamics. And that's exactly what Jordan Peterson exposed for all of us to see in this liberal who's now all about shilling for the billionaires that have created a tyrannical social pyramid enforced by the forced compliance of wokeness. Unfortunately for them, there are a whole lot of us who are descending from this tyranny and forced compliance. And nowhere do we see that dissent more consistently and impressively displayed than in the rhetorical brilliance of Jordan Peterson. . (upbeat music)