BiKitzur Shulchan Aruch
Ep. 929. Is תוך כדי דיבור (Toch K'dei Dibbur) the Time to Say Two Words or Three? As Long as One Knows Which Bracha They Are Answering Amen to.
Is תוך כדי דיבור (Toch K'dei Dibbur) the Time to Say Two Words or Three? As Long as One Knows Which Bracha They Are Answering Amen to.
Welcome everybody, Chinaman 929, getting back to our hulkus brochus. Okay, we are in the middle of course of our main, saying our main in conjunction with brochus obviously. So the question is, we spoke about Leishir and Reffice Kaddish, very interesting, again we're not talking so much about feeler per se, but we happen to see a grismoja, we brought down from the do shoot that even by Kaddish, you have to know in order to say a mane, it should be a mane, you have to say it in the right time, right? We said takkade dibur, and also you have to know what part of Kaddish Kaddish has this up to. I just want to read, we're going to get into this now, but just to read from the dooshu, again, it's simming kov kov dalid, and then move on back to our, actually to our simmer Reish tess vov, which again, they keep on crisscross because of the fact that they're both talking over there by kov kov dalid, the tok makas ar sashas, obviously which is connected to a mane, and now we're simming Reish tess vov, which is a mane, so therefore we keep on crossing the bridge, if you want to call it. One side of the bridge you have kov kov kov dalid, and which is in sif sai, and it's in the other side is Reish tess vov, so that's why we keep on going back and forth. Okay, so he says like this in the dooshu, actually, number 52, he says Masha, he quotes a again birah locha from simming Reish tess vov, believe it or not, which is what we've quoted. Masha says the enochai rakum utr, Oz lanais komos shimash birah locha, right, and Teri sashani vidasa roshu, we're not going to get into the whole birah locha right now, just to get the highlights of it, shimloi shoma esa brocha, if you didn't hear the broch of rakia dea, but again, the same concept, we want to keep this in mind. If you heard the whole broch you must answer, but now I didn't hear the broch, but I know that's what he says for rakia dea, it's a brochum of rakum, I know which broch of this person is making, right, for whatever reason, I see him with a cup of water, I see him with this, I see him whatever, but I know which broch is making, then Yachal lanais, amin, I could answer amin, and I see him finish, I know when he finish, it's like a day debar, and everything else's calicas is, I'm doing it the right amount of time, because I see it, right, I just didn't badafki hear it, exactly. I mean, the broch of rakia dea is a broch of rakum of rakum, yachal lanais, amin, then I could answer amin, but there was a point that that would not be amin yusoma, that would not be amin yusoma, as he says, aval ain echayev, but you're not hayev tan something, but again, what does it mean by that, if you hear a whole broch, then you must answer amin, you must do that, that's your hayev tan something, but if you didn't hear it, you just know it, you're not in a hayev tan, so I'm in verak pashima, verak pashima, yachashima, unless you heard a shem's name, like we said, but see my brocha, and the end of the brocha, right, even though you might have missed something in the middle, but then you, then hayev lanais, then you have to answer, again, we're not talking about, we spoke about a couple of shurmago when somebody, I'm being yelled to somebody else's brocha, that's how we're talking about, because then you must hear the whole thing, but even if you missed a word or two in the middle, you heard a shem, you heard the end, then the degree of the answer, but in case not, if you just know which brocha the person's making, even though you could say everything, whatever, so there's no heave to say, but it's, I'm sorry, then he says, then there's no heave to say your mane, but you could say your mane, the punchline says, yachal lanais ame, I mean you could enter your mane, aval ain a heave, there's no heave on that, heave rak, unless like we said, unless you heard the whole thing, or the alisa shem's name, and the end, and so on. Okay, so it's just one more quick thing over here that it brings down in the dirishu, in simikov kov dalid, before we move back to simirish, so he says, that which we said, which the mishin bura actually gives the klau of terke de debir, it's three words or four words, shalm lekham rebi, shalm lekham rebi amiri, he doesn't say that flat out, but I've seen that in the past, but shalm lekham rebi, shalm lekham rebi amiri, so he says, in ois number 54, that which one is it, in other words, it could make a difference, it could be another half a second, right, or whatever the case is, but he says huvashi asimokamshas, sasimokamshasim, sasimokamshabrua, shismana gimol tables, that it's really, mishabrua says, in other places, that it's really three, in other words, it's three or four, right, the three or four words, which could make a difference, shalm lekham rebi, shalm lekham rebi amiri, right, but that amount of time, so he says, in other places, mishabrua says it's only three, vishbua, pemishas, the other place that he says is fua, but he says, right, so then he says, then he brings from ra'am kaniyavskizek, asaalu ra'a, that says no, the ikr, the ikr share is three, three words, the amount of time it takes a person tukdei debar is three words, shalm lekham rebi, akhwei, because of the fact that in mishabrua, in two different places, I guess, in more places than others, that's how he goes, and he goes also shalaka, right, so he says, fahim pasa karambam, fahim das rai fua, raiim, that's how we go in conjunction with rai vah raiim, most fah raiim. Okay, so now getting back to our simulation says fahim the piskit chub, but now, the thing where this comes into play a lot, which we have to talk about a little bit, is on a telephone, right, many times you hear somebody make a brook on a telephone, so the question is, you know, what do we do? Could I answer on me, and not answer on me, so that's an interesting thing, right, somebody, I mean, today you have even more, today you have even video, chats, video groups, I've heard others want to say, possibly, sometimes you have a people who can't get out on the people, whatever the case is, and sometimes there's a shawl doppening, and they have somewhat, during the week, not shawl, but obviously, that we're talking about during the week, even in shawl is whatever, and they have a video of, they had this by covid, whatever, but there's a lot of time to have all the people, the people can't get out, or the other places, whatever, for whatever reason, you have these video calls of the, of the darkening, or just possibly someone making brook on the phone and stuff like that, then you have, there's another child in the place, can go down to the microphone, so that's a little bit easier, we can understand, but a telephone, you know, what is that considered, could they debur? Is that considered, they finish, I mean, there's time till it gets to you, sound travels, how fast does it travel, you don't, you don't really hear them, I mean, really hearing the, the, the, the electric sound waves, or whatever the case might be, so, and I'm just throwing this out there, that this, they, they bring this down, we'll talk about an upcoming shurm, the safe episka Chubus talks about that, that these haloch is, I use in conjunction with how we work with the telephone, to enter, I mean, and that, right, if, if you know, so he brings out just to end off again, getting back to Rachel's above our simmon, in the piska Chub, of quoting dad Berhalocha, and he says, in his gimbal, in his gimbal, I feel like Shum, according to the Berhalocha, like we said from the dear show also, um, called Shum, uh, uh, uh, I feel like Shum, uh, cloud, even if he didn't hear at all, as Sammavarach, he didn't hear the one making the brook at all, in my idea is a brook of Berach, I'm saying, you know, which, if you know, as long as you know, again, you have to know what brook is making, (speaks in foreign language) and you, you know, right, you know that it's within the time zone, like we said, (speaks in foreign language) he finished the, the brook, and you could say, (speaks in foreign language) so then, that's good, or he brings the other examples, (speaks in foreign language) the same thing, right, you, you come into Shul, and you see everybody's answering, (speaks in foreign language) and again, at the same point, you know which brook at the answering, (speaks in foreign language) and you can answer with them, that's all, (speaks in foreign language) but we said, like we said, (speaks in foreign language) there's no (speaks in foreign language) unless you heard the whole brook from a person's mouth, like we said, (speaks in foreign language) and so on, okay, we'll continue on the subject upcoming show and thank you for listening as well as I'm also called to.