(upbeat music) - Hey, Julie. - Hey, Julie. - Welcome to Hey, Julie, aka, Hey, Jeffrey, podcast about "Survivor 47," a show that we are watching on television. - We are watching, yeah. - We just took a week off, and we missed the week that I think-- - We took about three weeks off, Danielle, just letting you know. (both laughing) - I did, it took me a minute. I got, I got, I did get here right on time, but it took me a minute. I was planning to get here early because I was like, wait, where's my podcast stuff? I just didn't even know where it was. - Collecting tests. - Yeah. - It's like, it's like one of those like French, like a new franchise movie, like "The Beetlejuice" movie, you know, "Bealjuice Beach Juice," where it's like-- - Which you saw. - Which I did see. Yeah. And, you know, gotta pull the sheet off. Every franchise sequel/reboot has the moment, where someone pulls the sheet off of the classic prop from the previous movie, and you had to pull the sheet off of the Hay-Julie equipment in your house. - Yeah, and a lot of dust and cobwebs came off. - This is a new sequel for a new generation. - Yeah, and it's gonna bridge the gap between generations. This is something that, this podcast is something that Gen Z, millennials, Gen X, and boomers are all gonna appreciate. That's gonna be the theme of today's episode, I think. - You know, boomers might catch some strays. - They might, they might catch some strays. Anyways, Daniel, it's been a little bit. Welcome back, we're gonna talk about "Survivor." We're talking about a lot of pop culture stuff. I'm gonna talk about "Big Brother." I met most of the cast of "Big Brother 26." - Both on the ground, reporting. - Exactly, I know. But first and foremost, most importantly, great podcast structure, Daniel, it's just been like two or three weeks. How are you, have you been? - I honestly feel refreshed, revived, relaxed, rejuvenated. I feel, I feel great, how are you? - You know what, I feel the same way too. Like, I love doing this, love doing this with you. - Yeah. - Sometimes I need a few Saturdays off. - Well, sometimes, 'cause we need things to accumulate to talk about. Like, that's the thing, I think it's better when you're just like bursting with stuff to talk about, as opposed to like, well, I watched "Survivor," but I didn't watch anything else, like, and I barely paid attention to "Survivor." So, wow, am I gonna talk for an hour? So, I think we're in a good spot right now. - I think so too. That being said, we have like three episodes of "Survivor" to talk about. Probably won't talk in depth about all three. - Mm. - Yeah, but we'll catch up. We're gonna catch up to "Survivor," where we are now on "Survivor." Now that we're merged, now that some funky tribals are happening, we'll ride this out to the end of the season. We'll get into it. This is like, "Survivor" is kind of like, you know, sorry to make a sports analogy, but it's just like a sport where it's just like basketball. No one's paying attention to this until February. They're doing games for four months, but no one really cares. "Survivor" kind of same way. Like, "Oh, you'd play radial tribes, do your little thing, but call me when the merge happens. Call me when you have eight people standing next to each other, holding a pole above their head." - Mm-hmm. - And Jeff screaming, "You got it." - Dang. - For those baby back ribs. - I had a thought during this episode. - Oh, sorry. - Do you remember that John Lovett was on this season? (laughs) - Oh, that was a long time. Remember him? - Can you believe he was on this season? It feels like he was, I mean, he was only on the first episode, but it was like, it was meant to be his season, and now it's like he wasn't even there. He's like a ghost. A ghost. - That was my big fear about this season six months ago when they showed the trailer, and the hammer was John Lovett. And I'm like, "This November." Remember, remember, the fifth of November of November is gonna be, it's just gonna be too much. There's gonna be too much of John Lovett in my life. And honestly, there was like, actually, just like very little John Lovett in my life. - Yeah. - Should we, I guess, well, do you wanna talk about survivor first? - Yeah, I guess so. - Okay, let's talk about survivor first. And then I do think we should talk, you should give your boots on the ground and report a big brother, yeah. - Yeah, we gotta give people a reason so stick it deeper into the pod. - Yeah, it's a tease, a little tease. - Yeah. - Let's go in reverse. Onica, three weeks ago, two weeks ago. (laughs) - Right. - Do you have anything to say? Do you have anything to say? Do you know who Onica is? - No, I don't. (laughs) - Wait till you hear my notes. Wait till you hear my notes. (laughs) - But we certainly, in this episode, we have the building of the Rome versus Saul. - Right. - You know, issue. Also, Rome is an esports commentator. - I would, I mean, why am I not an esports commentator? I should be commentating on you. - Because, I mean, you would be great. You would be very funny. I would love to listen to you do it. But you'd be like, "Oh wow, Mario's doing a backflip." - Is it like Mario and Luigi? It's like that stuff. - No, it's more like, it's more competitive games. It's more like Call of Duty or like-- - COD. - Yeah. - Or like, yeah, Overwatch. - Right. - Fork night. - Well, yeah, I was just gonna ask about Fortnite. Is that still, are we loving it still or are we don't care? - I mean, I'm an adult man, so I'm not loving it. But, I mean, you know what? But, you know what, speaking of adult men, what's his name? From celebrity big brother, Willis. What are you talking about, Willis? - Oh, George, we follow him on Twitter. What's that guy's name? What's his name? - He's always Todd Bridges. He's streaming right now. - Todd Bridges. - Todd Bridges. - He's always waiting Fortnite. He's an adult, he's more of an adult than I am. So, you know what? - Todd Bridges. - Let he without sin cast the first stone? - A hundred, yes. - You know what? - What did they say? - I, we all have our fun little vices. I wouldn't even say gaming is necessarily a vice unless you're like, disgusting about it. But, let him have fun. If that's how you choose this, to spend his beautiful Saturday in November, good, enjoy. - Yeah, I don't, I, gaming is a problem for me. This is like, four people are gonna be activated by this word and they're gonna freak out. And no one else is gonna know what I'm talking about, but I am obsessed with this game called Bellatro. It is a like, card game and is like, video poker meets solitaire meets being addicted to cocaine. So, I'm all about it, it's a great, it's a great time. The Bellatro heads out there, you know who they are. - Do you play it alone? - I don't think I have it while I have it on my Switch and I have it on my mobile, I have it for iOS. So, I really don't have to go anywhere. I really don't have to really be anywhere in this world without having Bellatro about four seconds away from me. And the real freaks out there know what I'm talking about and other people are like, good for you. How do you spell that? - But can you play another person? - No, it's like, no, it's a solo game. - It's solo, okay. I just didn't know if it was like, like you ever hear about how women can get scammed on Candy Crush? - I'm sure why people are like, because they can buy one more donut and like they get a diamond or whatever. - Like you play with other people, or maybe it's words, no, it's words with friends, words with friends. You're playing other people and you can play like randoms, but those randoms are gonna try to like tell you that they're a prince and they're in love with you and we should meet up, but for $77,000. Like, haven't you heard of this? - No. - They do have their words with friends, yes. - Oh, so they strike up like a casual, like, oh, we're just gaming, oh. - Right, right, we just both love words with friends. Yeah, I'm a prince who's fallen on hard times. The Nigerian prince scam, but like on a new platform. - Updated, yeah. - Updated for the year 2024. We don't do email anymore. We do words with friends. - Yeah. - We do Bellatro. - Well, I'm glad to hear Bellatro doesn't have the opportunity for you to do that. - No, no, Bellatro is good. You know, Bellatro is great. There's no, they're not charging you extra for all sorts of extra jewels or coins or donuts or sprinkles or whatever. - All this is doing is making me think of that Kevin Sorba video. I think I sent it to you. It was like someone paid Kevin Sorba to make an ad for a mobile game while he's shooting a movie in Israel. It's like, he's like, hey, it's Kevin Sorba. I'm shooting a movie in Israel. But I gotta tell you about this amazing new game. Shoot your, like, shoot your, your icing cannons to cover the trolls with your squeezy juice or whatever it's like disgusting. It is so good. It's called like, go to the pretzel casino to fill up your chicken. - It's a good video. Well, we'll tweet it out. - It's so good, yeah. - We'll tweet it out later. - It's a favorite of mine. - Okay, last week on Survivor. This is where the fireworks went off. This is where it's time to have a Rome conversation. When in Rome, this is your Roman Empire. How do you feel about Rome? How did you feel about Rome? - How did I feel about him? - How did I feel about Rome? - Were you like, this man is disgusting? I can't believe like someone exists like this or were you like, this is a great television and mama loves great television. - I do, mama does love great TV, but honestly, he didn't fit into either of those buckets for me. I think overall he was not, he was just not bad, he really wasn't that exciting. I feel like the show was trying to push him as being this exciting character. He got a lot of screen time. He got a lot of talking to camera. And it just didn't click with me. It didn't hit with me. I don't feel the loss this week. I don't like feel like the show is missing, you know? So I'm sort of, I think it was a bit of a flop. I hate to tell you, a survivor producers, it was a bit of a flop. - Yeah, I didn't like, he was a, he was like a strangely un-telegenic villain. Like he was kind of, he was a villain, but how many D.R.'s, I'm just gonna keep on with D.R.'s, how many D.R.'s am I gonna get of him per episode where he's just saying, like, "Listen, things can't be going better for Rome right now." - Yeah. - Everything's great. I'm playing circles around these fools. And it's like, you're not, you're quite bad at this. And much like Angela, I'm concerned about how you behave around regular people in real life. - Mm. - You're like, I don't know. Like something about his like very nerdy form of bullying, he's an esports commentator. That's how we started talking about, what in Rome. Something about his very nerdy flavor, very like kind of Fort Chan-y, like... - Yeah, well, I don't like that. - Yeah, this is very aggressive, like a middle-aged man's soul. I was like, "I reckon in insurance office, "no one's ever moved to me, but what's going on?" - Yeah, it's a very weird like two online persona. I mean, it's people who are not that online. And we've learned that like most of these people are probably not that online because they didn't know who John Love it was. So most of them, maybe the podcaster who got kicked off, the Rob has a podcaster girl who got kicked off. Maybe she would have been adept at dealing with him. But yeah, when you're like a normal person who isn't that online, I can't relate 'cause I'm very online, but like when you're a normal and you meet someone who's so online, it's like very jarring. They can't, and they're in the right. The not online people are correct in the way they live their lives. - You're not normal. - No. (laughing) - Yeah, like, so-- - That's pretty clear. - It was, the writing was on the wall like the moment that man first opened his mouth. Like, Rome just, you can't continuously treat people like that. Like, you know, there have been villains that have done well in this game, that have won this game. But the, the Pied Piper trick has to work on a single person. - Yeah. - Like-- - Yeah. - It wasn't the right count for him. - His closest ally was Genevieve who was like-- - Your favorite. - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - I don't know. Does she still count? - Canadian Genevieve. - I saw this discussion in our chat, in our Discord, about like, would she still count as a brady ulcer? I don't think so, I think that's over. - Well, because I clocked it when she was getting approximately zero words in per episode, she counts. She is retroactively, she was born a brady ulcer and then she turned into a regular ulcer. She was a phoenix. She burst into flame. - She's risen. - And she's risen, yes. Happy Easter to you. (laughing) - Have you heard the good news. (laughing) - He said like, I don't know, the moment that guy kind of started doing his thing, like Genevieve was his closest ally and even she was like, yeah, he's a liability. He's-- - You're laughing. - She wasn't a long-term partner for him. He was just like a useful idiot in the early game. - Mm-hmm. - So, aside from that, like once anyone starts comparing their notes about Rome, they realize that he's a fucking asshole, so no. - I did have one moment from last week's episode that I loved involving brady ulcer Genevieve, which was like, Genevieve has sat out like every competition up until that point. Like she's never in the competition, which only contributed to her brady ulcerness. But she did perform in the one where they were all covered in mud and she was completely clean, put together. In that moment, I said, I actually do love Genevieve because that would, I would want to be her. She was feeling good. Everyone was caked on, their mud was like dry and cracking on their skin. She looked comfy, comfy cozy. - Oh, yeah, absolutely. Did you think, I mean, maybe they wouldn't have known this because this was taped months prior where I felt a bit of poetic justice, poetic rhyming between shark cutery on Big Brother 26 and the shark cutery board that was had on Survivor last week. - Poetic. Wow. - Yeah. - I didn't even make it. - The year of, the year of shark cutery. - I, you know what? I think shark cutery is actually a little passe, honestly. I know I, I know I had a big deal about how much I love the way Brooklyn made it on Big Brother. But I think as an idea of shark cutery, we've pushed, we have pushed shark cutery to the edge, to the edge of its boundaries to the edge of its like societal acceptance. 'Cause there are all these different types of shark cutery boards you can make now. And it's like really pushing the boundaries. So I think shark cut is a little, it's a little passe. And that, and the way you, I know that is it's on Survivor now. Like if they're letting them have shark cutery on the island, we've pushed this too far, this idea. I mean, also too like shark cutery, it's like I'm hungry again later. I went, went to the real meal, you know? - Oh, do you need, let me ask you this. - Okay. - Are you? - Yes. (both laughing) - Are you like a man who like needs to have protein at every meal? - Not every meal, 'cause sometimes you just need to house a bowl of macaroni and cheese. That doesn't count. - Okay, so you wouldn't like be like, I need some sausage in these macaroni and cheese? - No, no, no, no, no, no, not every meal, no, like. - And you're not like, oh, it's time for dinner. - No, I can, I mean, for dinner usually, most of the time. - Are you like, I need to just cook a big plate of meat and then I'll just have that, like if that's all I mean. - No, no, or like for lunch, I'll just like have a salad or whatever, that's usually-- - With no protein, I actually think that's bad. - Oh, okay, that's probably why I'm like, I have it for a week and I'm like, fuck salads, they're gross. - Yeah, no, but also you're gonna be hungry after 30 minutes if you only eat a salad with no protein. Okay, they're asking some form, okay. Sorry, I derailed us. Are we back to, are we at this week now? - Yeah, I'll Vida's name, Rome. - I'll Vida's name. - But the thing to know in this episode, the thing to note in this episode, long term, is at the charcuterie meal, many Sam Convo, at the meal of the people who had won the first half of the challenge, they're like talking about the plan for tonight, it's gonna be Rome, it's gonna be Rome, but we need, Sam of all people is like, we need a backup plan, stop, stop creating situations, where you have to say someone else's name. It's like, you create the situation, it's like, well, what's the next sentence after we need a backup plan? Well, who is the backup plan? - Exactly. - So Sam creates a situation where he, where I understand needing to have a backup plan, what if Rome has an idle? - Yeah, dependencies, yeah. - Let someone else have that conversation. - Yeah, exactly, don't say any more names. Stop going down this rabbit hole. - So he opens up the conversation and Sue, I think, he was like, how do you feel about Andy? Andy is a boy, Andy is a little brother, he's a little brother. And Sam is like, yeah, sure, sounds good? Time to sell Andy down the river. We get to the vote. Rome, oh well, throws a hinky boat at Sam. Thanks for saying, whatever, which I don't think really like clocked, we even get anything about it, but Andy now got, Andy got two votes because there was this plan that Sam had given up Andy. It's like, yeah, we can put two votes on Andy just in case as a backup in case. And Andy clocked that. And that brings us into this episode. Andy clocked that and he looks at Sam and he's like, was I the backup plan? And Sam doesn't really have anything to say. And Saul has to do some damage control with Andy because he was one of the votes for Andy as the backup plan. But Saul was like, yeah, I did that, I feel bad. Sorry, would love to work with you still. I got news for you, Jack. It was your boy Sam at the charcuterie lunch that sold your ass down the river. I'm just a messenger. - And your girl, Genevieve, smells blood in the water. And she's like, oh, I thought Rome was gonna be my little side, my little friend, but now I think it's gonna be, she's actually, I do relate to this, she always finds a little buddy. She's like, I need a little buddy, a little like, I want someone unstable to be mine. - I need to be my little friend on this island. And you lose perfect for that? Andy. - What do you think about a beautiful, successful Canadian? Woman. She's a lawyer, I believe. - In general? (laughing) - What do I think about it? What do you think, what do you think about her? Don't you hear a point? What do you think of a woman like that? She's always finding like a little weak man to like, be her real thing, to be her little web. - Yeah, oh, I love it. - That's exactly, I love that you said what, 'cause that's what I thought when I was watching this episode, I was like, Genevieve's a little bit of a praying mantis finding these little, like what I call, I call them my little buddies when I have one of these in my life. (laughing) - Daniel, I have a huge question for you. - Yes. - Am I one of your little buddies? - No, you're not, you're not. It's usually in a work scenario. In a work scenario, I have a little buddy who I can be like, how do I do this formula in sheets? 'Cause I don't know, but they'll know. And then this is gonna make me sound terrible, but instead of me learning how to do it, I'm just like, okay, great, you know how to do it? I'm always gonna come make you do it for me. (laughing) - And it's not just a boy, it's not just boys, it's boys, it's girls, it's whoever. Whoever I can trap in my little web. - My little web of incompetence. - Oh, baby. - Listen, work smarter, not harder. - Yeah, you are, you are established for upper management. - I thank you so much, thank you. - It's all about just telling people to do something that you don't wanna do. - Yeah, oh my gosh, that's the whole point. That's the whole point. - Or don't know how to do it. Or don't know how to do it. - Oh yeah, and don't wanna learn. Yeah, exactly, I'm perfect for it. - Let's see, yeah, let's see, yeah. - I know, I love it. I absolutely love it, I applaud her for it. I don't think she's gonna win though. I think it's like, she, well, I don't know, actually. I thought this episode made her, yeah. I thought it made her too obvious. Like, she went too far from Breddy Allstar to regular Allstar, and that's too soon. We still have a lot of games to play. - I think she's gonna have a bit of a target as we get deeper in, because she is, I think, pretty good at some of these challenges, or she's competitive enough where she's gonna win. And she is playing well, like, if you're up to me right now, I think, like, my guess for Winter would be, like, teeny or something like that. - Yeah, I don't know who that is. So, yeah, she's got a good shot. Let me, okay, can I just bring up my nose, some of my nose from this episode? - Absolutely. - Okay, so I wrote down, at one point, there's a group of them talking, and the opening line is, wow, so you played pickleball? And then, like, someone walks into the conversation. - No, you said I play racquetball every day. - But someone brought up pickleball. - I wrote that down, okay. I wrote down Sue plays racquetball every day. - Okay, and then, the conversation was, like, awkwardly interrupted, but as I was watching the scene, I was like, this really seems, like, the producers were like, okay, just talk about, like, whatever sports you play, so we can set this up. And, like, it felt like improv conversation, okay? It felt like an improv. Do you think they ever do that on Survivor? They're like, oh shit, let me just, like, can you guys just talk about something live, set the camera up, I missed the light. - Whatever it is. - No, I don't think that there's much interaction. I think that, if you were to watch, like, the raw footage of Survivor, it's probably incredibly boring. And there's, like, there's probably actually very little, you know, on the course of a 24-hour period, very little game talk, like what we're seeing, probably isn't that much. There probably is literally, they are probably just lying down all day because they have no food. They are physically weak and they're just lying down and they're like, I don't know, like, do you work out? - No. - Do you play pickleball? - Do you play pickleball? Sue's like, I play racquetball every day. Also, Sue, like, two weeks ago. Oh, no, there's just two weeks ago, sorry. I did watch all the episodes in the last 48 hours. So, this is why it feels so recent to me. - Yeah, you really know what you're talking about. - Sue a few weeks ago, she was like, we brought this up. She's a Bowie-Jaining it. She's like, I'm 45. And everyone's like, seems normal to me. - Great, yeah, no questions asked. - And last week, the merge happens. Sue's like, hey, Saul, I'm 45. And Saul's like, I'm 42. Well, don't both of us look so good. (laughing) - I loved it. - So good. - There wasn't, like, Craig, I don't really remember, but I don't think he then had, like, a snarky aside. I think he did take her at face value. Yeah, it was like, no. - That's the thing. You know, like, Rome, who's, like, never been around someone older than 24 years old, like, sure, he wouldn't know. - Right. - But Saul knows, Saul's been around the block. - I have a light crush on Saul. - I really like Saul a lot. He was very nervous that he was gonna get, like, truly, like, pushed out of the game by Rome, like, just because Rome was such a force early. And, like, sometimes, in the beginning, it's, like, easier to, like, let that person think that they have control and, like, do their bidding and then get to them later. I like Saul a lot. Like, Saul's now, he's now a player in this game. I mean, he, once he gets to the merge, it's him just, like, being normal and that convinces people. And I think Andy, is that his, no, not Andy. Kyle. Kyle's the kind of, like, hillbilly fella, right? - Yeah, who's vegan? - Yeah, oh, yeah. It's Saul and Andy, who are the ones who sort of, like, bring to light the Rome issue and stuff, then Rome. And then Saul finds an advantage this week, good on him, you know? So we'll see next week how that plays in, whether he's going to let Rachel know that he was the one who did it or whether he was, whether he's just going to hold on to that information until deeper into the game. I don't really know what, I don't really know what benefit he would have by, like, telling anyone, like, sure, he would get Rachel's trust, but, like, Rachel kind of seems like a whatever player. - I wrote down, one of my notes is, that girl brought a blazer. Was that Rachel, which one girl brought a blazer? Do you remember? And they're just like, one of these roles brought a blazer. Not Genevieve, was it Genevieve? - No, it wasn't. - Rachel was the one who had the power used on her. She was, like, the one from the yellow tribe. And, you know, at the end of the competition, it was, like, all people on the blue tribe and her. So she seemed like the easy vote. Was she wearing a blazer? I don't think she was wearing a blazer. - I don't think she was wearing it at the final. It was just like, during a scene, she was walking wearing a blazer. And I just, I thought that was worth a note. I have something, like, a slightly, potentially, infuriating to some to say. But I just wanna say, all girls alliance slash all-girl jury enough already. It feels like it's a box we have to check. Every season, someone has to be like, hey girls, like, it's all girls in a group. Wouldn't it be amazing if we all worked together and we had an all-women jury and we, like, we hear it every year, every year on every single show. It doesn't matter, every reality show, if there's some sort of final, like, five, whatever, it's like, wouldn't it be so cool if it was all women? And then, immediately, they vote out a girl. Like, it's like enough, enough already. It just feels like we're going through the motions. Like, okay, yes, it would be great. But, like, stop talking about it, just do it. Like, show don't tell at this point. - You know what, yeah, like, you know, I don't wanna pour water on it. I hope all women stick together, especially when it comes to-- - Yes, of course. - Especially when it comes to this Tuesday, you know? - Yeah, of course, of course. - I think women are gonna do something very good for this country in a few days. - Let's hope, let's really hope. - So, we knew about that. Speaking of women, R.I.P.T. on-- - All of women. - R.I.P.T. on it, she was really upset. - Yeah, I didn't see it for her. She fucking hated Gabe. And from the start, like, every single week, there was, like, you know, much like Sam earlier when I was kind of critical of him, like, bringing up the, "Hey, like, we need to have a backup plan." Stop saying people's names. It's a really easy way to, like, not have people saying your name. It's to not say anyone's name. - Right. - I get on Survivor. I'm named Agnostic. I'll never learn it. I'm never even gonna learn anyone's name because I don't wanna say anyone's name out there. And every single episode, since the beginning of the season, Tiana's just, like, chilling on the beach and she's like, "Oh, fuck, it sucks." Gabe, fuck that guy. (laughing) - I'll do something to get him out. And it's like, she just did not like him. And he's a very interesting, kind of sneaky player. Like, he's like, he and Andy are kind of, like, opposite sides of the same coin. He's like, he's, like, too confident Andy, but also, like... (laughing) But, you know, so, like, I, yeah, I don't know. I just didn't see it with her. Like, the way she had anyone who has, like, a very personal vendetta in this game, it's hard. It clouds their judgment. It's, listen, like, in that situation, there's only five people. Yes, of course she's gonna do that. But I felt that it kind of prevented, it prevented her from, like, working too closely with other people because her only solution to anything was get out gate. Yeah. And that just, it bit her in the buns. And she was very upset, she was very heartbroken. I didn't write down when she went up to get her, her fire snuffed by Jeff. Did you notice Jeff's fire snuffer? Have you ever talked about this? It's like a skull. It's like a skull. It's like a skull. It's like a skull, but it's bejeweled. It is bejeweled. It is, yes. Like, a ton of like, and I just couldn't help picturing, like, the prop master with her glue gun out in Fiji, like, sticking these things, being like, this skull needs a little extra room. Like, we gotta add something to it. So it's got like these orange crystals. And maybe, I don't know, maybe Jeff, maybe he's an LA guy, maybe he believes in crystals, the good karma, the manifestation of like, orange, bejeweled. I just thought, like, we got a really good shot of that snuffer this week. I thought it was beautiful. Good job to the prop master. Philip G in the chat says, can you believe Tiana was only 45 like two? Was she? No, since she's 27 years old, I'm survivor.fandom.com/we2/survivor47. Wow. I don't understand what that's in reference to, right? You'd be nice to women, Philip G. In the chat. Believe it. I don't know. So, you know, shout out to the chat. Anything else? There's so much else to talk about because we've been saving it. Are we done with Survivor? I think we're done for this week, yes. OK. Big brother, 26. Remember that? Remember that one? Well, as I was getting ready for the show, and by getting ready, I mean, finding my mic, I was like, Brett and I should play a game where we try to name the Dyercaster, maybe 26. Because I don't make me be able to do it. But I know that Brett, Brett lives in LA. And in LA, there are certain perks. There are certain things you can do the nightlife. You can live it up. You can, you know, you can do whatever you want at night. You can go to the club. You can see jazz. You can go to the orchestra. You can eat at a fabulous restaurant. Or you can go to a party where most of the cast of BB26 will also be. And that's what Brett got to do, like two months ago. Yeah, it was actually about an hour after the finale episode that we taped on Tuesday night after Big Brother. The Big Brother finale was on a Sunday, like three weeks ago. And then on Tuesday, we taped our episode. I knew I was going to this. I also did not bring it up on purpose because I don't want to share my location with people. And also, like, I didn't, I don't know. Like, maybe I, what if I decided not to go? Like, right after. But I didn't. Then there'd be thousands of-- Or whatever was a flop, you know? Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, it was crazy. I did not get recognized there. Or maybe I'm just too afraid. But so, yes, it was Tucker De Laurier's birthday. He had posted on Instagram, hey, it's like my birthday. I'm having a birthday party at this bar in LA. That's not too far from me. So I went. And at first, it was really interesting because no one from Big Brother was there. And every time you walked in, it was just-- I mean, but everyone there was there for this event. And any time you walked in, everyone in the bar went the heads at you. Even more so than usual in LA. I know. Because everyone's looking for stars. Yeah, exactly. So, but eventually, 12 of the 16 cast members of BB26 did arrive. And, well, it was everyone except for Chelsea, Angela, Kenny, and Brooklyn. So I think it was a pretty good turnout. Yeah. And then also Matt from BB25 was there, who got second place. Remember him? Yes, he was an athlete. Yeah, so he was there as well. So we had 13 Big Brother cast folks. And they-- like, listen, it was like-- it was two days after the finale. Most of them were-- many of them were in jury. It was pretty much the full jury except for Chelsea and Angela. And it was like a lot of people who were really excited to see that. And lots of fans and stuff. But most of the people kind of went around the bar, taking pictures, shaking hands. I got to chat. Yeah, I got to chat or be very close to pretty much everyone there. I got to chat with Quentin for a little bit. I got to chat with Cam for a little bit. I got to chat. Here's the thing. I needed to talk to Matt. I needed to talk to Matt. No one matters on TV for four seconds. I needed to talk to Matt. And so I did talk to Matt, because I wanted to share what you and I had shared on the first eviction episode three months ago, four months ago, where I'd go up to Matt. I'm like, hey, nice to meet you. I just got to let you know. I was in the audience. I was front row center during your eviction. And I got to say, when Julie asked you about Donald Trump giving a sense to me, that was crazy. That was crazy objectively. And you handled it very well. And he was where he gave me credit. Because when I was saying-- I don't know if I posted this in the discord or not, or I might have just sent it to you. Sent it to me. I sent it to you. But as I'm doing this, one of the people who I'm there with is recording this on video. So I go up to Matt, I start talking to him. And roughly the time where I'm like, yo, I was there when all this happened, I got crazy. Matt, there was a moment of this video I'm like, I'm saying, talking to Matt, I was in normal conversation. And Matt goes, full crazy eyes mode, or whatever. But he was very nice. Everyone was very nice. He seemed very gracious. I asked Brett, does Quinn have the reason in real life? Quinn was so nice in outgoing. Quinn was the most just talking with random people. He was-- I went up and introduced myself and grabbed a picture. He was like, hey, you remind me so much of my communications teacher at university who was really influential to me and who I look up to. I'm like, oh, he would just say stuff like that. We're like, wow, you're fucking so fucking nice. And Quinn was also-- I will say, Quinn was really respectful about people's personal spaces, especially if they were of the fairer sex. Because everyone was going up to him. Like, trying to take his picture and stuff. And every time it was lonely, he's like, is it OK if I put my hand on your shoulder or something like that? He was a lovely guy. Just a absolutely lovely guy. He was so sweet. Kimo, Sneaky Tall. Yeah. Sneaky Tall. How tall would you say? 6'2"? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Tall, I mean, I didn't think he was that. I didn't think he was going to be that tall. Yeah, for sure. Leo, beautiful. We knew this was going to be true. I was standing like right next to her. And I was like, oh my god. And she doesn't know. She doesn't know how much shit I've talked to her on my block. That's also true. I've touched it with all these people. Teacore. Stunning. Teacore? I was like shocked. I was like, I get the Teacore mist now that all these people had. He took off the hat. You saw her without the glasses. And suddenly it was like, she's all that. Like, wait a minute. No, literally. Teacore is like, oh my god, Teacore is like stunning and just like elegant. And I was like, wow, I get it. I was like making fun of her a lot this season. But like, standing to a fever and I was like, oh my god, Teacore, I get why everyone loves Teacore. She has an aura. Joseph was Joseph, I shall say. Did Teac with him for a couple of minutes. And I had a very-- I think I was going into this with a good heart. And maybe I should have adjusted my strategy a little bit with Joseph, because every single person who I did speak to, I said, hey, congratulations. It was a really great season. This cast was wonderful. And no matter how you finish, you did a great job. And every single person was like, great. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Normally, yeah. Except for our guy, except for the guy in the video store. The quinterntino of Western Florida, Joseph. Yeah, the character who made it his character to be kind of like deadpan, sardonic. I don't know if he's-- So I was like, one up to him, you know. Hey, congratulations. And he's like, for what? And I'm like, oh boy, oh boy, here we go, here we go. Coming in, huh. No, I'm all the defense. And I'm like, hey, man, sorry, I was-- Yeah, I know. But also, you did make it like halfway through the freaking game. And I'm just saying to everyone what it did season it was. That's it. Not everyone can win. It's very unbrand for Joseph. Yeah, exactly. But also, in two minutes, I was like, everything that was just of on the show. A little bit too full of himself. Maybe not deservedly so. A bit abrasive. A bit abrasive. Not able to connect and meet people where they are. Mm-hmm. Like, all that stuff was there. You know, don't wish him ill, of course. Of course not. Of course not. I see why in the same way it didn't work out for him on TV. And I saw why it didn't work out for him on TV. Like, I saw it in real life. I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course. This tracks. I think you told me this already. But like, he was the birthday boy, Tucker. Yeah. Speaking of big characters who like, the world revolves around them, not the other way around, right? Like, how does that remind me? What? How Tucker was? Oh, oh, I did not really interact with Tucker because he was, you know, Tucker is certainly high on like, I don't mean this in a bad way, like, high on his own stuff. Like Tucker was the star of the season. Tucker and Angela were the stars of the season despite he wasn't even in the jury. It was a birthday like, they kind of had like a table for the cast and he was kind of like, he walked in and he's like, you know, like, standing on the table, getting a lot of attention. He was, but he was also being absolutely swarmed with people and I just like, I wasn't going to go. I wasn't walking into the center. I was keeping it a look. I wasn't going into the center of like where everyone was mobbing Tucker, but he was Tucker. He seemed like a very nice and, you know, funny guy. He seemed like him. He's America's favorite. Yeah. Exactly. So I didn't, I didn't dive into that. Mackenzie. Tall. Super tall. Yeah. She seems tall. That was not a secret. That was not a secret. That was very clear. So otherwise, that was, that was it really. I had a lovely time. I was lucky to have that opportunity and go and just to confirm and clear things up because I think people will want to know, Ainsley was not there. I wish the actress who put the shoes there. But she was not there that the, maybe she was working at the bar. It was interesting because when I walked into the bar, when I walked into the bar, there was like a, cause there were some tables and there was a bar area. So there was a hostess who was like seating for the tables and she looked exactly like Lisa. She was like, dang, Lisa, is it working? She's falling so far. But then Lisa was there and then Lisa was there and I was like, oh no, this woman just does look a lot like Lisa. Right. Man, if only Tucker picked the bar where Lisa was working for his birthday bar. That would have been funny. What a great, I mean, it sounded really fun. You got great pictures. There was one video, at least in the Discord, but I think it was the video of me talking to Max. I think I only took one video. Right. And it was great. We love boots on the ground, respectful boots on the ground reporting, you know, if anyone ever runs into anyone on the cast, just let it be known that the hey, Julie, Sam of approval goes for you being like nice and respectful or just leaving them alone. That's really the only two options. Yeah. If you want to see those photos or the video, please join our Discord channel or server is what it's called. Sorry. It's not a million years old. The link for that is in the description here on YouTube or on your podcast app of choice. What else do we got? Danielle? You're all right. I just cooked for 10 minutes, Danielle. You've been consuming media and I hate, yeah, consuming media and I know you have a lot of stuff to say, so I'm just going to let you go. Where do you want to start? Well, well, I think I should just start with the third episode of Matlock. Absolutely. Where else? Because I know we have like some fervent fans in the Discord in the hey, Julie community who are watching every episode of Matlock with baited breath the way I am. I like, I won't get too much into the details and plot. Actually, Madeleine Matlock, who we know is Kathy Bates, who we know is a liar, gets roped. She's like not supposed to be a trial lawyer because she's a contract lawyer. But like this, this episode, it's all about how like the jury actually prefers old ladies. You have to be the trial lawyer. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like they bring in like an expert, a jury expert to come in and like she, you know, she assesses all of the top lawyers at the firm and she's like, oh no, the jury's going to hate them. And then she sees Madeleine Matlock like fumbling in the corner like, what about that old heck like make her do the cross examination. And of course it works. They love it. And it's like a sexual harassment case. So it makes Madeleine Matlock have to like, because the sexual harassment is like that. He said like the guy who sexually harassed the female employee was like, he said something like kind of nasty or kind of off color. And Madeleine Matlock has to wrestle with her own inner demons because she's old. She's like, in my day, like that was part of the course, like why are they even complaining? So it's like, I mentioned bridging the gap between generations is what this show is doing. Because there, because she has to really examine herself actually was it good that I has just let the lawyers at my firm 30 years ago cop a feel and not say anything. No, it wasn't good and it's not good now. And it's just like a beautiful learning moment. You really have to give up for this show, which has been renewed for season two already. You really have to give it up. Kathy Bates takes a network show and makes it prestige. This show should be on HBO. This show could be on Apple TV. Like this is probably a good show. Apple TV wishes almost entirely due to how fucking good Kathy Bates is at just like taking any moment that on any other network show is a throwaway moment, no one would do anything with it and instilling it with depth and humanity. So it was a great episode. Highly recommend checking it out. Okay. I mean, I never will, but that sounds great, I believe you. I also, um, watch this movie called the whaling. Have you heard of this? I've never heard of this. It's a South Korean horror movie. It's like three hours long, it took me three nights to watch and then I fell asleep at the end. I was looking for a new horror, we were looking for new horror movies to watch. But you know what? It was beautiful. So if you really want to watch a beautiful horror movie, you should watch the whaling, although Halloween is over, so maybe no one cares anymore. I did watch the first two and I'm waiting anxiously to watch the other couple episodes of the franchise. Have you heard of this show? I've heard of this show. I kind of got a bit of a tepid response, so I didn't really check it out. It's very like by the numbers Armando Yanucci, because it's just like, he always does the same thing. It's always, but like now it's in, um, behind the scenes of a superhero movie. It's not, it's not even in, like it's Hollywood type people, but it's, it's set in like outer, um, I don't know, like where they filmed Harry Potter, you know, like big studio city, but in London. Like in London. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I enjoyed it. I thought it was really good. Daniel Bruell playing the director. So I liked it, but, um, I'm surprised that it's such a tepid response. I guess because it is really like, if you've seen Veep, if you've seen succession, you know, it's just like another one of those, but those are good people like those people like comedy ish or like that one that's been on this set on the spaceship with you, Lori. Hotel five Avenue five. Yeah. It's sort of more like that one than the, than the ones I named. Yeah. Okay. And then finally I was just being a tepid response. Yeah. Like what's the, like less than desert, that one was, yeah, yeah, that was cool. That was cool. And then I did watch the last man on earth with Vincent Price. I don't know if this was the basis for the Will Forte show. No. Yeah. Well, he is just like the last guy on earth because everyone else has been turned into a zombie. I, again, wanted a horror movie. This movie was sad. Unless you want to be sad and upset. Don't watch this movie. It wasn't scary at all. It was upsetting because he's like, he's got like a beautiful wife and daughter and they both die horribly and I just couldn't help but relate to that. I didn't like it at all. And that's, those are pretty much all I watched this week, I think. That's great. That's great. Thank you. Spooky season, I did watch Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, I rented it and it was like very meh. Yeah. You paid for that? I paid for it. How much you paid? I paid $19.99. Oh my God. That's a rent to rent it. That is so much. I'm glad I didn't pay the extra $4 to own it. Yeah. Now you don't own it. You own nothing. You don't. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it to. I don't want to see it in my library. I know, well, I think, well, I was going to see it in theaters. I was going to see it in theaters and you know what? Like, here's the thing. I was going to go see it with a person. We were going to go see it in theaters and we never got around to it. Like, it wasn't really playing in theaters anymore and it's like, okay, so I would have paid $26 to see it in theaters and I wouldn't have owned anything then either, you know? You owned an experience. I did own experience. I'd be watching it at home and it's just like, it was very like, by the numbers sort of like franchise reboot sequel sort of thing, like, why is this happening simultaneously too simple and way over complicated to the point of like, not understanding like, like just so overwritten and the first hour of this movie is people just explaining what they are and like, what their character motivations are. We would set up doing anything, not really anything happens the first hour of the movie. Yeah. Well, Catherine O'Hara is cooking, cooking in this movie. Willem Dafoe is cooking in this movie. They are both so good and so funny in it, but otherwise, I was kind of like, it was kind of a mess who would not for me. That's one thing I will say in the favor of the whaling is like, it's so much of like, the things we're even talking about now is like, we know it's going to happen, whether it's survivor or, yeah, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice or the franchise, but like, the whaling, I was like, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's happening every scene in this movie keeps me guessing. Like, is this the end of the movie? Oh, it's just that. Oh, there's two hours left. Okay. So that's one thing. If you like movies where you never know what's happening, you should check out the whaling. I also rewatched, wait, I also rewatched the visit directed by M. Night Shyamalan about the two grand one, the grandma one, I will never stop saying M. Night Shyamalan is the oh tour of our generation, I mean, this guy is so good, meaning this guy just takes a video camera, a digital video camera and gives it to a couple kids and says, yeah, point it over there. It's an entirely found footage movie, but like, yeah, it is, but like, it's so well done. It's so scary. It's so, it's funny. It's got like commentary again about generations, difference between generations. It's so fucking good. It costs him $17 to make because there's no stars except for Katherine Hahn. And it's like, it probably made $800 million worldwide. It's such a good movie, like, I know all of my recommendations are horror movies. So no one's going to watch them now. Now we're going into like Thanksgiving, autumn, no movie season, but like, it's great. It's great. I went into my letter box to see like, have I given this movie stars or more? I already gave it four stars. It needs to do it again. A little bit less than the Quinn, the Quinn five star. Exactly. He would have. All right. Let's go. We've got some questions here in the discord. Thank you. First of all, from Pissky, this isn't a question, but I listened to the Podwell grocery shopping. Can you remind me to pick up some fresh cilantro? I keep forgetting Pissky. This is your reminder. Please get some fresh cilantro. Fresh. Not canned. Fresh. Tallinator is the Rizzler the same person who even gave Livy a hug. No, that was baby Gronk. The Rizzler is different, but was a baby Gronk, a baby Gronk, a hug. Yeah, but wasn't baby Gronk fighting over Livy done with the Rizzler? No, different, different franchises. But there was someone else. Did that happen recently? There was another. There was another. No, this was back in the original video. There was another kid in the video fighting with baby Gronk. Yes, there was. It wasn't the Rizzler. I might have not been the Rizzler. It's a different cinematic universe. That's the Rizzlers part of the Costco guys cinematic universe and baby Gronk is in the baby Gronk universe. I spent a lot of time thinking about it. DC Marvel. DC. Right, because we all saw the Rizzler and the Costco brothers on the clip of them on Fallon what was going viral this week and I was laughing at like all of the discourse around this clip because I was talking about how like Jimmy Fallon is like miserable talking to them how he's like, he doesn't appreciate their jwada viv and the love that they bring to the world. It is so funny because he has the most random ass celebrities on there and he's like, wow, Michelle Williams, do you want to play two tech tote with me? Well, how do you get up every morning and he has these clowns on who are clowns just know their clowns who are ready for clowns. Or clowns. You want Jimmy? Look in the mirror. You see that big red nose? You're clown to someone who is like the same kind of clown as he is. He's like he hates that. That was interesting because he just he is so that's like one of the complaints critiques of that show is that he is so positive and so deferential no matter who it is including a former someone from the president or whatever, yeah, not potentially probably most yes. And it's like I think I saw that this week. It's like Jimmy Fallon was freaking nicer to Donald Trump than he was to the Risler this week. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and the Risler, let's be clear, is a child. I mean, I know he's like a superstar. He's like eight years old. He's a kid. Like if no other reason, you should probably be like kind of nice to a kid on your nationally televised show. I mean, and it wasn't like he's a bratty kid. Like, yeah, their whole thing is a little obnoxious out there, their bit, but like he's just a child. He's a child that you're being a child to filling up with carbohydrates and calories. He's like, I'm like, I kind of feel spad for these kids. I feel that. This brings me to like, maybe we should end, well, no, we have another question. We should end the internet. Yes. We should definitely end the internet. I dropped this take. Have I brought this take up on the podcast? Let's see. I've dropped this take when we were talking about hot takes to work at work. So maybe I shouldn't have done this. It was at work, but I was met with a lot of vitriol. I was clear that people didn't like this take. So my take is I don't think we should have child stars or actors at all in any medium anymore. And I don't think we probably ever should have had them. Wow. That's just the green room. Great. Because a lot of people were like, well, what about Home Alone? What about Mean Girls? What about like all these things that starred people who are under the edge of it? I was like, you know what? I was like, you know what? 24 years old when they made that movie. But Lindsey was not. Lindsey was under 18. And so like my thing was, you know what? The percentage of joy that those specific films brought me is not enough for the percentage of misery that these child stars are going to have in their lives. It actually isn't worth it to me. And I would be fine. My life would be completely the same if I never saw Home Alone. I'd be fine. I'll just say the Rizzler is eight years old. The Rizzler is going to be fighting Jake Paul, but he's also going to be fighting Jake Paul in 10 years. The Rizzler is either going to be very fat or like very buff when he's like an adult man. And he's going to be like fighting people on like celebrity like all the fights are everywhere. I just don't think that no child's brain is ready for the spotlight the way any of these kids. The only person who turned out okay is Ding. Yeah. Most adult minds are. Aaron Hillley. Who turned out good? Daniel Radcliffe. Oh yeah. He just wants to be on Broadway. Yeah. Like a normal person, that's what a normal person wants. Yeah. Jake Gyllenhaal. Another child star. Yeah. That's true. Why? Where is the Gyllenhaal Radcliffe collab on Broadway? What? What? What do they do in true West? You know? Oh my God. Can you imagine? That'd be fab. Yeah. Why haven't they done that yet? It's only a matter of time. It's going to happen. Another H.E. Lee first exclusive. Was there another question on the display? Oh baby in the chat or in the display that says, would you get wine drunk at a reward meal like teeny? I wouldn't because I'm not drinking wine anymore. No, I'm barely drinking wine anymore. I pretty much don't. It makes my stomach too upset, gives me a little bit of acid reflux. I just... How did the Romans do this? How did the Romans do it? Ask Rome. How did the Romans do it? I just like, if they had like a beautiful cannabis beverage there, I would definitely drink it. Wine? Also like, I actually wrote in my notes that like the meal looked disgusting and the way Jeff talked about it, like sausages. I thought that's not a nasty. So no, I wouldn't do that. We did have a late coming question. Oh yeah, sure. Oh yeah. This came in right now from Mango. How many pigeons would you have to find in your house before you started? Thinking somebody was putting them there. It was this from something? I don't know because I've been thinking about this like in my head the last like minute and a half. Because I saw it come in. I'd be very upset if there was a pigeon in my house. First of all, it would upset my dog greatly. I think the number is four, but I think... One, for me it's one. One you're like, what is there a hole in my attic? Is there a hole in my roof? Yeah. One's like, no, that just got here, two is like okay. It's an accident. I think four. I think four is the number for me. But also if it was like, it could be two, it would be two if it was spread across different days. If two days in a row, one pigeon is there, then I'm fucking with me. I've watched so many horror movies, these past full days, I know that nothing's an accident. Nothing's an accident. If there's one, you're being haunted already. If there's one, it's curtains for you. You've got to move. And just hope that it doesn't follow you. Thank you for your questions. Are we good? Yeah, I think so. We're good. We're good. All right. Thanks for your questions, your comments. Thanks for joining us and we'll have to talk about whether we're going to talk next week. Oh gosh, yeah, I think we're having a, we're having a scheduling conversation in a few minutes. But they can be down with the principal, go over the PTA plan. Yeah. All right. So yeah, we might, sounds like we might not be there, but back next week, we'll figure it out. Maybe it's a drunk Uncle Brett episode. We'll see. Just in time for Thanksgiving. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, we're happy to be back. Yes, we are. You know, just like getting on a bike. Mm hmm. We'll see you next time. Yeah. Next time, subscribe and do all things, or whatever. We love you. Bye, Julie. Bye. a. a. Yeah. Bye. a. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. [BLANK_AUDIO]