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2837: UNITED NATIONS DAY: Transforming Governance and Turbocharging the Implementation of the SDGs in South Sudan
We'll bring you latest current issues, discussions and information. Nationwide on Radio Miraya. Hello good evening and welcome to Nationwide Today my name is Lucy Kiden. Now today we'll look at a very interesting topic, we're approaching UN day that is marked every year on 24 October and so this anniversary is of the entry into force of the 1945, the UN Charter and with the ratification of this founding document, the United Nations officially came into being. And so UN day celebrated every year offers the opportunity to amplify United Nations common agenda and to reaffirm the purposes and principles of the UN Charter that have guided us for the past 79 years and so today for all countries to come together to fulfill the promise there is an urgency, it's rarely been greater. And so today as South Sudan commemorates the day here in Juba the celebrations will be at the University, Juba University main campus and activities to mark the day will include an art exhibition on the theme of building a future together, a better future and UN agencies will also showcase their work and there will be a health camp offering testing services and blood donation. And so to get more information on this and just to look at some of the work of the UN the country getting updates and possibly future projects joined by officials from UNDP, UNOPS and WFP they are all here to share information on the UN day with a focus on transforming governance and turbocharging which is boosting the implementation of the 2030 agenda for sustainable development in South Sudan. Well, let me introduce my guests from UNDP we have Katherine Waliola she is the governance advisor there, Katherine you're welcome. Thank you, good evening to our listeners. Yes and then we have patronella Halwindi who is country manager for UNOPS in South Sudan you're very welcome patronella. Thank you very much and good evening listeners. Good evening to you too. And then we have Vincent Kiwanuka who is the head of a small holder agriculture market support here in South Sudan he's from WFP you're very welcome Vincent. Thank you, good evening listeners. Right, well remember that as we continue with the show you're welcome to ask questions you're welcome to call in later on and ask your questions or even give comments and when you do this you'll be able to share you can do that by dialing. By dialing on 0 9 1 2 1 7 7 1 for 1 and that is the SMS line you can text this line 0 9 1 2 1 7 7 1 4 1 you can also call on these numbers please take note 0 9 1 2 0 6 7 8 7 9 or 0 9 1 2 0 6 7 9 2 9 and 0 9 1 2 0 6 8 1 0 1. All right now getting to our topic for the day as we talk about UN day first let's get to know our guests a little bit starting with you Vincent the only man in the room. Thank you once again David England listeners my name is again is Vincent Kiwanuka I hate the small food agriculture market support in South Sudan country office yes and I'm based here in Juba working strongly with communities that are hugely impacted with the by the climatic shocks to ensure that we can develop more sustainable livelihoods for them. Yes can I ask you how long have you been working in the specific department? I've actually been working for WFP over the last 14 years and specifically focusing on building capacities. Okay is this in South Sudan or UN within the world food program and specifically in South Sudan over the last four years four years I'm working with communities across the different states specifically looking at those that are most vulnerable to address and build their capacities not only to respond in terms of saving lives but also changing and transforming the way they they adapt to climatic shocks because at the end of that they will have to realize that some of these shocks are not only about South Sudan yes and the impact is not just because South Sudan is maybe destroying the environment but these are consequences of actions that are way outside the country so we have to build their capacity to see how best they can adapt. Oh yes. So we really look at all areas that are impacted by the natural shocks as well as the man made like the localized conflicts to see how best either they can adapt or be able to predict the shocks and develop the mitigation measures to ensure that they can sustain their livelihood. Good we'll get deeper into your work and how it has been of impact throughout the years but what I've gotten is you've worked for the UN specifically WFP for 14 years and out of those four you've been in South Sudan what about you Petronella? Yes Petronella is actually brand new to the UN system oh interesting yes I am I joined the UN in January of 2024 as country manager for South Sudan so this is my very first post as part of the UN system in South Sudan so where were you before that previously I worked with Farm Africa in Uganda for three years and then I worked with Hepha International before that for 17 years in Zambia and in Malawi so I come in as country manager having served as a country director for two different international NGOs but really excited to be seeing the amazing work that the UN system is delivering in South Sudan. Can I ask then what inspired you to join the UN and specifically come to South Sudan? I was definitely inspired by the challenge of being part of a bigger organization challenged by the aspiration of the one UN and thinking about how we can work together joining our hands to do huge impact especially in a country like South Sudan where the need I think has been great in all the countries that I have served I will tell you that I've seen the greatest need in South Sudan and for me that challenge is what really informed my decision to come and see what I could contribute to creating in South Sudan. Lovely thank you for that and coming to you now Catherine Catherine how long have you worked for the UN in South Sudan yes tell us a bit more. Thank you Lucy I have worked for the UN particularly for UNDP for over 18 years but I have been in South Sudan this is my second time I keep telling people or I have the same when you drink from the night you'll tend to come back so I think I did come back. I first was in South Sudan from 2012 after 2016 and left after the crisis of 2016 and then I came back in 2022 in August so I'm doing two years this is my idea again coming South Sudan so this is very much a part of me South Sudan is home for me yes yeah all right thank you thank you thank you for sharing that and so now getting to the details of the context of South Sudan especially in your work most of you have worked outside South Sudan all of you are to me and now you have the experience here so let's continue with you Catherine in this context where governance has frequently been challenged by conflict and instability how is the UN supporting efforts to build resilient and inclusive governance systems that can only respond to not only crisis but also ensure long-term sustainable development and peace for all citizens and this goes specifically to you because you are a governance advisor so yes go ahead. Thank you very much I think I think we have self in this situation majorly because of a governance issue the conflict the crisis the ongoing difficulties are part of a governance problem that continues to affect out Sudan right from independent yes the UN in supporting South Sudan even before independence when the land was part of the South Sudan South Sudan has looked at supporting the government's totality because we say that in the absence of governance then you find a lot of things you find lack of peace you find lack of provision of basic services you find you know lack of accountability so really what the UN is doing is to support the government its totality all the three arms of government to make sure that you are able to support what they do and they are able to deliver to provide to provide the required services the people of South Sudan I think in a nutshell I would say that looking we support each of us in what we do we work with one or either three arms of the government the executive the legislature and the judicial system and we do provide support in many many ways but looking at the governance aspect it is important to know that right from the top if we look at the executive arm of government that that looks at the overall governance of a government that looks at policy making that looks at implementing of the laws that would be a very is a very important aspect that the UN supports so you'll find all agencies that is UNDP UNICEF, UNWFP UNOps one or another we engage with various components of the legislature in policy making in making laws in implementing in supporting the implementation of those laws so we work very closely with the executive part of the government to support that they are able to handle the crisis the South Sudan goes through but also to be able to create systems and enabling environment that helps them to ensure that the crisis does not continue we also support a lot the legislature and as you would know it has three key erodes to make laws to oversight and to represent the people right now in South Sudan the legislature is not might not be an elected body in totality but it still has a very key role of making laws of oversight in the government so we support the national legislative assembly we support the state assembly and you will see that each one of us whether we are looking at forming laws that enhance local governance that enhance farming that enhance water that enhance infrastructure we are doing this through supporting the legislature because they make the laws and they then oversee to make sure that the laws they make are representative representative that they include everyone that they go out to support the governance structure but also to ensure that in future we don't have the crisis going on and on and finally we actually we work with the judiciary which is a very key part in ensuring that we can manage conflict that we have a betration that we have ways of redressing things and they don't go beyond that so in many in many ways we work with the judiciary we work with the justice system in its totality the police the prisons we have in Juba for example we have a very special item we call the the GBV court all these efforts towards making sure that we are able to find ways of redressing problems and that then a government can manage issues can manage people can can retain and can observe the social contract has with its people ensure that everybody feels represented and is able to feel you know part of part of the nation wow that's that's a lot that UNDP is doing and you did you mention the mobile courts I have loved you to touch on that yes I would I'll do that um it's part of what I just mentioned the working with the with the judicial judiciary yes which is a key component in in in the absence of that then we don't have an arbiter we don't have a pointer twitch we go and have our issues redressed so we do have because of the lack of personnel in the first place across the country the judiciary requires a lot of infrastructure in terms of the courts in terms of the prisons in terms of the holding cells and the systems that we need to put in place we do not have that we need personnel that are trained be it the judges the court clerks the lawyers the probation officers all these people who support the judiciary the the the prisons office and every and all that we do not have these things across the country of course as we know because of the crisis and because of what is that has happened in South Sudan so we do support the mobile courts so that we are able to ensure that the last person in South Sudan as in tandem with the UN principal leaving no one behind going for the farthest corner of this country to be able to find the person who has the case who has an issue who has a conflict that needs to be redressed to find that chance to present their case and so it is not an easy process it's an expensive process but it is that important that if everyone is able to look forward to and have a sense of I have my way my day in court as we say I have a place to to present my issues and some would listen and and and get a sense of fairness then we are able to support communities to be able to live together and you know social cohesion grows in this sense and peace building so we support the mobile courts we support the scb records we support even by the way the traditional courts because you know that these are the biggest uh the the most that are found in the deepest part of the country among communities where people cannot access towns cannot access centers cannot access you know very tedious and distant places of justice yeah so we work with traditional courts and we we train them in human rights issues in gender issues in child protection and all these issues are that will help them to in their work be able to promote human rights be able to be fair in what they do and so it's it's it's a system that takes care of the formal and and the non-formal I don't want to go to inform because it is formal in a sense yes the non-formal but it serves the people of South Sudan and keeps the communities going to resolve their issues okay thank you very much Kathryn for explaining that in detail and indeed it's very important to support the government in these areas given the fact that we are coming from a time of crisis and there's still a number of uh pocket conflicts that keep happening that need a very stable and resilient government systems to address them now coming to you um patronella unops what does unops do in regards to um contributing to to support the governance systems but also the government itself to be able to just achieve their sustainable development goals thank you very much for that question unops has been in South Sudan even prior independence we came in in 2005 and we have our footprint across all the 10 states of South Sudan we have had a a huge footprint in terms of the kind of infrastructure we have built building project management systems across different government ministries and on the governance side we are that arm of the of the UN that is really implementation at heart we are the extended capacity of the UN system we are the extended capacity of the member states including the government of South Sudan and so we come in when the government is is struggling to implement what it needs to implement we come in when our partner agencies are failing to implement what they they are meant to implement because of capacity challenges and so we have since 2005 supported to implement projects that are worth over seven hundred million dollars in delivering projects that support the humanitarian piece and development nexus could you possibly name some of these projects some of these projects we have implemented huge infrastructure projects one of which is currently running the EU feeder roads project where we have constructed over 47 kilometers of feeder roads we have just next month we will be inaugurating one of the largest bridges in South Sudan that is in northern Barakazal and we have been implementing the largest social safety nets project with the Ministry of Agriculture and Food Security with World Bank funding and that one is reaching over has reached since 2017 when we started to date has reached over 1.5 million people in need and so we have been that extended implementation capacity that has been delivering across different types of projects and we have been I think that partner that wants to continue to contribute to accelerating or turbocharging progress towards the SDGs we are very much behind as South Sudan I think very recently we were reviewing the voluntary national report that was generated by the government of South Sudan really measuring the progress that as a country we are making towards achieving the SDGs and we are well behind our targets and so as being part of that UN family we are coming in and saying across our priorities how are we going to be able to work together because it's in partnerships that will be able to deliver bigger and that will be able to move faster wow just letting you know that I worked for you you know about six months yes oh so I do know what you're talking about six months but it was intense yes and and so you're the hands-on agency you get on the ground you get 30 and you do these projects how how have you been finding that that that work the collaborative bit I needed you to just speak a little bit about that the fact that you you know connect with WFP to implement projects just a little bit more um for us as UNOPS we would not exist without partners we exist because of the partners because partners need us we are very much a demand driven organization so you want our support you ask for it and we'll come in and give you a solution to addressing that problem that you have and so for us collaboration is really at the center of everything that we do our partnerships have extended across like I mentioned we have been working across the peace humanitarian and development nexus on the humanitarian side we have been there to support response to crisis for example just recently we are still dealing with the flooding situation that has happened in South Sudan we come in bringing in our expertise to inform to also extend implementation to make sure that we are able to save the people that need our help we have been working in the development space I talked about building roads we have not just built roads we have created infrastructure that has enabled people to access services so in partnership with UNICEF in partnerships with the government of South Sudan Ministry of Health we have been able to build schools health centers we've been able to build wash facilities enabling people to access essential life giving and life saving infrastructure and services well thank you for for getting into that detail as well and UNICE is indeed doing a lot now coming to WFP I think WFP is like the most famous UN organization especially in the humanitarian side you know with the food and yes that so in you work in this specific department that is a small holder agriculture market support but I would also like you to speak about the response to humanitarian crisis in terms of nutrition and food as well as health please yeah thank you very much for that acknowledgement that we perhaps the most known in terms of the human next next to the UNICE absolutely yeah obviously as WFP it's quite not necessarily a very interesting story because we find ourselves actually responding in over 120 countries and territories out of about 253 essentially it means that globally the crisis at dire levels what we are doing is not just to provide relief assistance as so many people have known WFP4 and that is why now it's not just about this logineering of saving lives changing lives we have been in this space of providing food assistance for quite a number of years but we are now focusing more on the transformative resilience activities that address the root causes of hunger our interventions are not necessarily now focusing on learning agriculture production and productivity but we're implementing also programs in nutrition school feeding and like I've already mentioned the agriculture market support activities and also building the capacities of the key stakeholders more critically building the capacities of both national and sub-national states and institutions we strongly believe that there is capacity out there for vulnerable communities that we support and that's why I mentioned that the global crisis about the climate shocks are not just about interventions that we can address singlet but it's a global situation where over 72 million people for example at the moment uh facing hunger so we in South Sudan we have looked at locations that have been and isolation for a very long time and decided since 2023 over the next three to five years to focus on the hotspots of hunger if you look at the hotspots of hunger these are areas that consistently have registered almost a IPC 4 and IPC 5 this is almost a very dangerous situation where people are the verge of death and our efforts now is to reverse the trend reverse the trend by way of building the capacities of the communities that we have previously been providing food to building their capacity to sustainably produce and when I say produce it's not about those who are only engaged in crop production but we look at South Sudan's context and acknowledge that there are quite a number of people who are also involved in livestock so our support is not just for communities that are involved in crop farming but we are also looking at a range of value canes including livestock our support includes both the capacity strengthening in terms of reduction of food loss this country loses over 40 percent of what they produce and this is at the backdrop of very low production per acreage, Pafedan, so our investments are now looking at how to build capacity of for example the 900 farming households that have been affected by floods this year to ensure that in subsequent years these people are able to build their capacity to predict these natural disasters, build mitigations that can actually enable them to either withstand or adapt. I must mention that in Greta Baragaza and parts of Zhongli we have supported communities now to adapt to the climatic shocks for example we are promoting lowland rice production, we are also supporting areas that have been hit by prolonged dry spells to introduce crops such as cassava, cassava is one of the drought resistant crops and in our support would not only focus on building their capacity to produce but also facilitate link against markets, I might have mentioned perhaps Ariaron and again I would be doing myself a disservice if I don't speak something to do with the small agriculture market support and this is the trend that we would like to see in South Sudan in western equatorial for example over the last two years we have procured maize worth approximately 300 000 US dollars in places like rank this has been our commercial centre where we procured in South Sudan we would like to see more involvement with the working with the government national government and also the sub national governments to see us expand our procurement into other locations and for us to achieve it as world food programme we really need to work more closely with the agencies like UNOPS and EFAO because undoubtedly FAO's space in terms of agricultural production is massive and what WFP is doing is to come up with such programmes like the school feeding I wish we had done this programme in the field I would have taken you to some of the schools where actually communities are producing the food that is finding its market into the schools that we are making so our focus now is really as much as possible to reduce our humanitarian response reduce the in kind reduce the in kind or cash and condition assistance and gradually introduce our what we call more sustainable resilience approach over the next six years with a view of building transformative capacity of the vulnerable communities and also strengthening systems systems that should ensure for example that there is proper early warning system yes and that when communities of shock when communities are impacted by shocks it's not a response that WFP should undertake but perhaps also the government has a mechanism to ensure that areas that are flood prone have a clear and anticipatory action and that when a shock like floods we are going through this time we do not have to be hit like it's a surprise because there are areas that are perpetually being experiencing these shocks okay and our contribution as World Food Programme is now to work with the different departments ministers and departments and other agencies to ensure that we build a capacity across both national and sub-national levels thank you very much Vincent you're tuned to Radio Miraya and this is a nationwide discussion hour we are looking at the work of the United Nations as the UN Insights Sudan is set to mark 79 years in the world on 24 October so I do have representatives from UNDP which is the United Nations Development Programme and then UNOP's United Nations Office for Project Services as well as WFP which is the World Food Programme if you have a question or a comment remember you are free to be part of the programme during the conversation by texting 0 9 12 1 7 7 1 for 1 but also note these numbers you'll be able to call in after the break the numbers are 0 9 1 2 0 6 7 8 7 9 0 0 9 1 2 0 6 8 1 0 1 Welcome back you're listening to nationwide on Radio Miraya and as we talk about the work of the UN you're welcome to call in you're welcome to text in your questions as I have guest in the studio we have Katherine Walwola that is a governance advisor to UNDP Petronella is country manager at UNOP's and we have Vincent who is head of Smallholder Agricultural Market Support at WFP now we do have some callers already on the line so let's hear from our first caller Radio Miraya hello Yes you're right on Radio Miraya yes yes this is the ending in wow yes the ending go ahead thank you I'm glad to have the UN guest in the studio actually UNOP is doing great job in this country as a citizen we have no objection to actually say that UN is not doing it work UN actually is working for the writings and is having the people of South Sudan development as they are talking about the next you know East Department and humanitarian Lee they're actually doing a great job so my question to them is uh there is also these things because they are also donors they are supporting a national organization and also other international organization they are supporting them giving them fun so my question is that some of the as they were talking about some of the panel are not actually implemented the right way so you get that they are giving the part with the organization to the partner you get the partner gift service only to five percent of the work and seven five percent will be died by the partner but you are unable to see that why that one question another question is that are you also turning the tips are you not turning the tips greeting all organized tips you know what are the organized tips those who know how to write the proposal nicely they can write nicely they can be new you give them the money but actually they will not go and do the work in that way are you not able to be you are not you are not able to be cheated uh because you restrict some time that you develop the proposal for young low criminal or the somebody will work hard to do it but some citizen who actually will be hard to help this people with the cb or the poem them in order to get part you people are not giving them fun you're giving the part of the organized tips why why you doing that thank you thank you very much dang dang for jerry good question i think this one we can answer as we will be taking more callers after this so yes who wants to take this and in terms of um projects some of the u_n_ agencies partner with local organizations and working with them to implement some of the projects and then most times this is a citizen who's saying that some of these projects are not completed they're not done fully or done to the best uh in terms of quality and so he's asking is this something that the u_n_ considers when giving funding to the local organizations but also he talks about organized thieves people who write very good proposals but don't really end up doing what they plan to do so um shall we speak to u_n_d_p_ um thank you i i had these questions and i think i i would put um i find them as two strands of the same question i was talking about funding wastage and and organized thieves as he calls them now i just need to uh let him know that you know as the u_n_ i said originally we support government we support government priorities so we do not go to a location and you know pack uh ourselves and say we are going to do this and that and that instead first of all we come in at the invitation of the government of south Sudan that's point number one we are invited to come and support the government that is a member state of the united nations and when we come in we look at what the government has as priorities we relate to those priorities we develop our own frameworks the u_n_ development cooperation framework that is actually anchored on the government development plan and all the way at the national to the to the state level and right to the payams to the bombers we do hold consultations i'll talk uh particularly on u_n_d_ because i know what we do yes we have assessments of every partner we work with we will put out our our our our calls for proposals whether you want someone to work with us in working with the a civil society to work with the the prisons or to support the police station or to work in the uh providing um support to parliament whatever it is we do send out our calls very openly we make them public we have a clear procedure of how we assess and evaluate the agencies that we work with but that is not just all that's not all we also bring in government partners and communities and so i think what he's saying is that it's imperative for us to have to hear from communities that that benefit from these services to tell us what is it you're seeing because we have monitoring teams we have monitoring programs but we cannot do this alone without engaging with communities on the ground so it's important that we have everybody involved because what you are delivering is for the people is for you it can't be that we give money to an agency that can just do what they want and that's why in our monitoring we actually talk to community members to ask what's going on do you think this is benefiting you do you see that you are going at the right pace and so it would be important that when we have this kind of engagements which are always in the field like my colleague Vincent was saying we always got the field all the time all right that we have such you know uh members of the community letting us know because for sure i don't think we want to waste any money and we don't want to have as you call them organizers we want to know what to do that thank you Catherine and just to reiterate the numbers we have somebody requesting for that the numbers to dial zero nine one two zero six seven eight seven nine zero nine one two zero six seven nine two nine and zero nine one two zero six eight one zero one we have another call on the right thank you Catherine for answering that question ready me right hello yes good evening roosey how are you fine thank you how are you fine thank you both of them from aqua yes both Gabriel go ahead yeah you know uh like uh what uh one of the call i say before my question is do they have a follow up for what they give you know because now everything now has um here in aqua so i have been heard that aqua is given maybe or some country in this state don't resist it i've been giving percentage or donna from uh from international organization but they are not reaching a house year so what is good they pull up what they give whether it's the vulnerable people or people in the village okay thank you very much we'll have Stephen take that Vincent Vincent sorry yes thank you so much our listeners and i fully appreciate the the frustration maybe and why they are referring to some of the organizations as organized thieves we do acknowledge that the more the needs increase the more the pressures across the different spectrum but the processes uh i'll speak broadly from the u.n. perspective i think our localization agenda is very clear working with national with communities and also with national organizations and that's why i talked about strengthening systems and we also have a very elaborate feedbacks complaints feedback mechanism that is built right from the communities and we also have direct lines that different communities can call and we guarantee confidentiality when people call in so as far as contracting of organizations and partnership developing partnerships with organizations is concerned it's a very transparent process involving also an elaborate community-based participatory planning process building on the state level plans so at least from that perspective or is well and something to do with the follow-ups all UN agencies WFP in particular have a very elaborate follow-up mission for example where we implement uh directed distribution of food with what we call post-distribution monitoring where we interact with communities across the different spectrum from the households that receive food to others that are not necessarily receiving food food but playing critical roles in the locations where we are implementing these projects but we'd be happy if mr. dang from wao and the color from arcobo we have offices in arcobo for example we also have offices in wao if they have a particular incident which they would like to report we guarantee their confidentiality they can approach in our end of our field offices and then we can take it up when you said you have lines to be able to get feedback could you just break down that a little bit is it part of going to the office or their specific lines that can be called they are specific lines that can be called okay can we share that before the show ends oh yes i can thank you very much yes there's still room for you to call in at least one more caller and then we'll be able to hear your concerns and there'll be answered right here in the studio we're looking at the work of the un in the country for all the time it's been here and how far it's gone as we mark una on the 24th we have another caller radium right hello hello hello yes good evening good evening you evening into the guess where there is yes what's your name yeah my name is uh my phone is a simple point no problem you call it always always uh those people are talking and uh media but if you may follow up in a little bit instead to the county level okay on the audiotist in the audiotist all right thank you thank you for your question okay another question on follow-up maybe um patronella you could clarify on that and then we will conclude because of time go ahead okay yeah thank you uh our listeners for those important questions i think just to um reiterate what my colleagues have said i think Vincent and Catherine have been able to understand to answer those questions quite well on follow-up i think as a un system we have boots on the ground up to the county paella and boma levels i mean all those levels we we are covered because we have boots on the ground there are organizations that are doing direct implementation their organizations that are also working through uh partners but again we heard the you know the the feedback from the questions that have been raised that in our quest to adopt our localization agenda where we want to empower as much as possible locals to deliver development work to help in the humanitarian process sometimes we get their losses yes but we should also be counting some of the wins because some of those wins have gone to building the capacity of local community based organizations to deliver on development work to deliver on humanitarian work in some counties it has worked in some payams it has worked in some boma it has worked and we should be able to celebrate those wins unfortunately we do have those instances where we have partnered maybe with wrong people and those wrong people we as a UN stand united in making sure that we address the problems because the aim is to make sure that the need that is supposed to be addressed is addressed the resources that come to the people of south Sudan have to be directed to the people of south Sudan and so those structures are in place i think we probably need to do a better job in just alerting the communities to understand that they have these reporting channels that they can use to make sure they report the perpetrators the people who are getting the money that is not supposed to be in their pockets are supposed to be brought to book all right thank you patronella and you've really reiterated that so well it's important to involve the local organizations because then you're empowering them and also not just to do the work but also financially and the community is able to embrace the work done by their community in themselves but then we do have those bad elements that need to be addressed well that is an important feedback there that we've had everyone has literally centered on that and that's your take home as well to see how you can better your services in terms of eliminating those bad elements so we have come to the end of the discussion today and so before i end let me share the the lines that you can call for feedback regarding wfp projects and so you can call these numbers kindly note them down 0 9 1 0 6 8 2 4 6 4 and then the other number is 0 9 1 0 6 8 2 4 6 5 i'll read them again 0 9 1 0 6 8 2 4 6 4 and 0 9 1 0 6 8 2 4 6 5 now because of time you're going to have 30 seconds each to share a uni message so let's start with Katherine Katherine are you ready or should i go for Petronella just a short un message short uni message yes uni message yeah we are well behind the achievement of the SDGs we have six years to zero hunger six years to no poverty six years to well-being six years to all the 17 goals yes and it can be frightening what i'm saying is if we can work together if we prioritize we can have some significant wins by 2030 so let's celebrate what we have done recognizing that we have a lot more work to do in the six years thank you very much now Petronella has taken up all your time and so this brings us to the end of the discussion thank you so much Katherine Petronella and Vincent for coming and happy un day in advance to you all and to everyone listening in up next we have the news in english thank you