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Ep. 932. Story of Rav Moshe זצ״ל. Various Important Points in Answering אמן (Amen). Davening Next to Someone Else Who Is Saying שמונה עשרה (Shemoneh Esrei) Louder Than Usual.
Story of Rav Moshe זצ״ל. Various Important Points in Answering אמן (Amen). Davening Next to Someone Else Who Is Saying שמונה עשרה (Shemoneh Esrei) Louder Than Usual.
Welcome everybody, Shinnam on 932, getting back to our Hochas Prochas. Okay, we are in the middle of some enrage test of love, going through the various different al-Lochas of Maine. Just an interesting story, somebody mentioned to me from Ram-moisha, that somebody came to Ram-moisha with a, the child was sick in the hospital or whatever the case was. Ram-moisha said at that time, that people should go to the child's room, or was that at home possible, whatever it is, the child's room, and make broch, as so that the child says a mane, and then others say a mane in the room, and the reason being that the mane, each mane creates a maloch, and that if you take the gomatry of a mane, which is 91, the same as is maloch, right? Mamlamid al-Lochaf, so you have, you have 70, 80, 91, and a mane is 91. So you have 91, and 91, and it would be a maliceus for the child, for the whole family, and so on, those malochum that are created with those are mane. So it's just an interesting story, the importance of a mane, to the point where by Ram-moisha felt that that would be mamish, a part of the rifua for this child, and some other things brought down in the safe rights for alochas, but we spoke about some of them interesting that we saw the, they say various alochas quotes, a lot of the things that the, from the Piskachumas quote, are also that Vamruh, Kalawina, Hamein, whoever says, "A mane with all their cloghas, please come and let Shahruh get nade, and they mamish open up the doors of Gernaid, and the gates of Gernaid, and they're not going to go through a quote, all the sources. We spoke about it last time. He close with Vaidamruh, God-Lawina, a mane, yeissim, and amavarach, that mamish to the point is someone to say that it's mamish. He brings from the gomarim, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, sam, safer. Then he brings, yeah, so we, again, we saw that. In the, we saw that in the Piskachumas, Gomar, Brakhus, and then Gimmel, Mebes, and there is different peruishim on that, but he brings interesting, does the Safer atlax, in his cotton teszain on the bottom, Vaimus Safer Hasidam, he brings down and Safer Hasidam, simen tough, tough pei Gimmel. He says, Kalawina, Hamein, whoever says, "A mane," and this world, when he ends, "A mane" the right way, on this world, Yuzqah, loimar, "A mane," loimar, "A mane," loimar, "a mane," You can be zerikr to be answering 'Omen im 'Oilam habah'. So these are very, very big words. 'Mamish' very, very big things. Entering 'Omen' besides being 'Tachiyev' 'Omen' we saw last time from the 'Hayyadam' and others that 'Mish' is 'Sha' 'Maya' 'Brahkha' 'Maya' 'Omen' 'Somebody' hears a 'Brahkha' and they don't enter 'Omen' 'Akhra' 'Omen' 'Shay' 'Goddle' 'Mawi' 'Drakumul' 'Oson' 'It's a very terrible punishment' so we saw all the various different, you know, 'Hazal' and so on that we spoke about last time from the 'Piske Chufas' also the greatness, the greatness of saying 'Amen' and 'Mamish' to the point, someone said 'Oi' 'Dawmul' 'Goddle' who I know mean 'Yaisaman' 'Mawi' 'Aphra' that even bigger, some say it's bigger than the 'Mamish' bigger than the one making the 'Brahkha' Okay, so other might as well be it as 'Amen' we're not going to go through the whole thing now but the tremendous, tremendous importance of saying 'Amen' Okay, so there's a whole maklakis if you hear a goi say 'Amen' in various, in various different, in Yannim, like that but we're not going to get into that right now, we're going to just try and stick to the, you know, the regular 'Mains' from that person here, regular 'Mains', what are the halochas, we want to get those straight and we have that straight, I'll arrive there, I'll arrive there, I'll arrive that much, you know, that we can move on from there So, if it pertains to anybody in reference to a goi up the chorus in these type of things, one should ask it as a maklakis in various different, you know, situations the shulkhanaf does bring it down back and forth and so on interesting question which comes up, which would come up, could come up a lot, the person's here, sometimes you have these older people or sometimes people in general, the average monastery loud, right, so the davening loud ish moness, right, and I'm not loud, I mean, louder than they're supposed to daven, and you can hear it, you can communicate a brochus, so the question is, right, so the guy's next to me so, okay, it's hard to concentrate, that's not the issue, the issue is, do I say, let's say I say, do I answer 'Amen', I'm not middle of the monastery, let's say like that's the case somebody's davening monessary, and they're davening a little bit on the louder side, now do I say, should I say 'Amen' if I hear his brochus, I'm let's say middle of whatever, a case in time, in a place whereby I could actually answer 'Amen', should I answer to this person's monessary that's not the answer, we're talking about somebody standing next to me, davening monessary, and that happened to be davening a little bit louder, why I already finished, or why it's from a different minion, I'm just standing around, should I answer 'Amen', this person's supposed to daven low, right, like a regular monessary, but I could actually hear him davening, he's davening a little louder, sometimes older people or whatever, so what's, if I hear those brochus, should I answer 'Amen', and what should I do? So he goes through that again to say for a laqas in Aisured. He says like this, "Das kam aqroynim de inlanais omen aqabirhushmanessray." You know, quite a number of aqroynim that I want to say, "I want you not answer omen to aqabirhushmanessray." If there's some, if they hear somebody davirhixmanessray, balakash, the regular schmanessray, they hear him davirhixmanessray. They hear him davirhixmanessray, right? They hear him davirhixalabala. When they're supposed to dap them low, you hear them dap them in a liberal louder, so many say, "The Inlan is on me." One should not answer "Omen" after that schminer esri, if you hear his brochus, a liberal louder. Okay, so he brings on the bottom, so he says in "Oislamic Gimmel," this is "Oislamic Gimmel," "Kiminchin," this is "Om Rambalachach," since there was the "Oislamic," it's "Hazal" when we say that a person should dap them low, finish. If we take "Nuchazal" and we say, "Omen," and "Hazal," we're not going to dap them low, right? "Oislamic" is supposed to hear it, right? The one who's davening is supposed to be saying it to the point where at least he can hear it a little bit with his, you know, what he's saying. But not that anybody else hears it. Who "Oisishalika" then bemashim es palabachol, and the fact that he's having a liberal louder, he's really, you know, not supposed to be doing that. Okay, there's different situations, sometimes all the people, whatever the case is, who "Oisishalika" then bemashim es palabachol. Okay, so we'll go on to next year, I don't know if we can get into it right now, but now there's some times that a person is allowed to dap him on his way a little bit louder. Like for example, Rashi Shaniyam Kippur, if somebody's davening the Eredis, we'll see how that works. There are certain times whereby Medina, somebody's allowed to dap him a little bit louder, so if you hear that, then should you answer "Omen"? So, some of what we established today is a person's davening, a regular schman ester with everybody else is supposed to dap him low, and that's it. If they dap him a little bit louder, we saw there those who say not to answer "Omen" if you happen to hear the person davening a little bit louder. Thank you for listening. That's a lot from Brockacoltoob.