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Rachel Speaking Out from New Zealand
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And my immediate response was to say, well, we also had probably two years ago a lady from Australia came to see us. And she was telling us how bad it was in Australia. And I think that you guys had a really tough time in New Zealand and Australia. Absolutely, Brian. It was actually quite terrifying to experience. Yeah. There was the border in Auckland where we lived. And what does that mean, which border? So the border out of Auckland. Okay. Yeah. So it was basically holding people to ransom during the rollout of the vaccines. And they also did a vaxathon as well where they invited the whole family. And to have their vaccinations together. And it was just unbelievable, to be honest, Brian, to experience and... And you knew very quickly that something was wrong? Absolutely. It seemed to me, you know, when I was reading the mainstream news in New Zealand that there were quickly rolling out, you know, it just seemed to go from COVID to vaccines. But in the interim, there was a lot of talk about indemnity, you know, from the pharmaceutical companies. And that in itself was a big red flag for me. And it just seemed so fast, and everything just happened so fast with the lockdowns and then the vaccine rollout and the cohorts, you know. And I just thought, well, is this a one size fits all? You know, where's the... You know, the... Sorry, I'm trying to think of... They do... The trials. Correct. Thank you, Brian. And it just seemed wrong. And yeah, I just, it just... My intuition inside said this is wrong. Right. And that was very early on. Absolutely. You've got a stealing that... I really did. Yeah. And I can remember when we were in lockdown and I was having teams' conversations with my colleagues. Right. And I think they thought, you know, I said this is so wrong. You know, it feels like our freedoms have been taken away, and I'm being held to ransom to have a medical procedure. And nobody really felt that way, which was quite a lonely place to be, actually, Brian. You just told me that the government used an expression for people who were protesting what was happening. What was that expression? Oh. River of filth. Yeah. Yeah. Who actually said that? The Prime Minister? I think it was the Speaker of the House at the time. I think it was his name, Trevor Mallard, but it was, you know, in the mainstream news. You know, that people were being called River of filth, anti-vaxxers. It was like, "We were the enemy." Right. Absolutely. Which is terrifying in itself. Yeah. Well, I mean, we felt it as well. I know all of the UK column people quickly said there's something really strange going on here. But it was oppressive, and the oppression of the lockdown affected some members of my family quite, you know, extended family quite badly. Yeah. And that really brought it home to me how frightened they'd actually got people. Yeah. And isolated. And isolated as well. Yeah. And particularly relatively people that were shut up in the residential homes and the so-called care homes. I mean, it was pretty bad. So you felt this, and then you get to a point where you start to meet people. Yeah. Or when you wrote a book. But was it the meeting of the people that helped you create the book, or did you decide you're going to write the book first? Which came first. Yeah. Absolutely. So I was under a lot of pressure at work to have the vaccine. And I'd had an adverse reaction to the flu vaccine when we lived in Australia. And so, and I'm also allergic to penicillin. So I actually was proactive and went to see my GP. And obviously all this is on my medical records. So I said to the GP, who actually wasn't my normal GP. It was a local when I went to the doctors. And I said, if you can look at my medical records, you know, I had the flu vaccine and I was really unwell Brian. And when we just moved to Australia, I thought I was doing the right thing because I was in a new hemisphere, didn't know what I was going to be exposed to. So, but yeah, I was seriously unwell. So already, you know, for me, I had to have that adverse reaction to a vaccine. So, so I said, can you tell me what's in the COVID vaccine? Because I'm also allergic to penicillin and I need to make an informed decision and choice whether to take this because I'm under pressure at work. And it was a really sinister encounter with the GP because he said, well, if you don't take it, you'll probably lose your job and you'll never travel again. And it was real pure fear, pure fear, nothing about, you know, my medical history. And I actually asked him again, what was in the vaccine content and he had no idea. I could tell that I'd got his back up because I learned afterwards, obviously, that GPs were getting monetary funds for each vaccination that they administered, which again in itself Brian is wrong. Yeah, absolutely. So when did you start to meet other people that had problems with vaccination then? So I'd relocate my family to a semi rural, sorry, semi rural country town and I felt very isolated and I started obviously, I was following UK column at the time and I think I was on a red where there was another lady from New Zealand who responded to one of my posts and we exchanged contact details and I gave her a phone call and we were chatting on the phone for like four or five hours just talking about everything and she introduced me to some freedom forums and so from that, Brian, I met other people who were in similar circumstances to me, which was very cathartic. And then the Wellington protest happened and I felt compelled to go and that's where the book comes in because I wanted to document, not digitally, why people were there and I met people from all walks of life, Brian, you know, policemen, nurses, midwives, just housewives, house dads, kids were there. And these were all people who were uncomfortable with what was going on. Absolutely. And they wrote that in my book, why they were there and it felt important to me to document that. I'd spend time with each person, sometimes five minutes, sometimes hours, just chatting about what was going on and yeah, and it was a community where we all felt that we had this. It was a bond and also compared with a group of people, but you actually feel that there's I felt compelled to be there, Brian, and a lot of people felt the same. I've never in my life attended a protest or anything like that, but yeah, I just felt compelled to be there. Right. And you said that there was a Maori man who came and he wrote a lot because you've just shown me a picture of him writing in the book, I think, but he wrote a lot and he was talking about history, what came into my head when you showed me that was, did he say something along the lines of in Maori teachings, this time was going to come in the world or? No, he was more, I think he found it cathartic as a Maori to talk about colonisation and his family ancestry and history and how, you know, the Treaty of Waitangi and things like that. He cathartically wrote in the book to document his family Maori history and what hit him as a Maori felt about what the government was doing in New Zealand. Right. And there's a lot of very personal stuff coming to the surface for people, absolutely. Absolutely. And you said that there were some policemen who also attended and spoke to you. Yes, I met a lovely policeman who wrote in the book, just wished us well and I thought it was very brave and courageous of him and he actually showed a lot of human empathy and compassion for what we were doing and yeah, I've got a photo of him signing the book and also yeah, he also embraced one of my friends there and wished us all well. And you said that while this policeman who was clearly very nice and there were other policemen who were nice, while they were with you and the group, a short distance away was some of the sort of heavy anti riot police who were all lined up, ready to go out of sight but lined up, ready to go. And that was another thing I wanted to mention Brian, that from what was in the mainstream news I told you that they called us anti-vaxxers in a river of filth. And I feel like that has affected society, the police are obviously not working for the public good, they're working for the government, which the public pay for with taxes and it was like I said, I've never been to a protest before and I was staying with a lady I met on the freedom group and we just pitched up a tent and over the line there was like a offence and there was a line of policemen all with the buttons and pepper spray and all suited and booted and I can remember Brian looking and thinking I actually felt quite intimidated and terrified and I just thought wow this anything could happen here and I had to let go of that fear and remember while I was there and there was so much support there and I can remember looking at the place in my eyes just welded up you know I just thought wow you know to experience something like that was yeah terrifying takes you into a completely different space. So what is your book simply raw comments that people have comments that people have made in the book or have you made it into a formal but we should have it here with us. I should have brought it I've got it with you, is it upstairs or no it's actually hidden away. Oh okay. To be honest I didn't bring it because I didn't want to lose it and as we said this is an off the cuff you kindly invited me to the studio. Yeah perhaps we should say to people this thing this happens with I don't think anybody has come to the UK column before with well you did make a telephone call but I just got a recorded message and then I sent you a text and you replied yes so it was one recorded message and two texts which are exchanged and then you're here and then I better gently say to the audience but you say on the website you don't accept visitors so we have to do this because unless we are very careful about timing visitors causes problems because we can't do the job if people are here and it's always good to talk so for you somehow you got through the sister I did I mean I thought it was meant to be Brian right so just to pin the book down it so is it is the book writings and comments from people you met Raw or have you written a book around their comments so yeah it is very raw there are comments from children who have been banned from sports and that's why they attended there's comments from midwives all walks of life all all demographics and like the Maori gentleman I met he wrote pages and pages and it's a precious piece of work to be honest Brian that I have added to it when I returned back from the protest back home it took me a few weeks to absorb what I had just witnessed and been through absolutely and so slowly and gradually I've added to the book things that I've researched myself and also from UK column as well and on why all this is happening and why you know all the Western particular the five eyes nation yes and we're all in lockstep with each other every step of the way through all this and I noticed that as well yeah you know I could read the BBC news of the New Zealand news and it was pretty much well I'm gonna say I believe it's a genuine clip but some somebody sent me a little video clip scientific man in the vaccine field friend of Bill Clinton I can't remember his name but in it he's being interviewed and he casually says well it seems to me that that what we've seen is that when people need you know to take the vaccine they're not necessarily going to do it and we are going to need we need to be pretty forceful about this and I think that ultimately we're going to need NATO to be involved I think that's true I also remember just to add to that and Chris hippins saying on TV that they were going to hunt the unvaccinated down and watching that yeah from your home yeah it's two things because it it tells you a lot about the the mind and the mental state and the people making that comment and then yeah if you're at home it's something that's going to make a lot of people fearful fearful anyway absolutely next year we'll be in the phase of chasing up people who haven't come forward to get their vaccination or have missed their bookings and so on so everyone will be able to get a vaccine between now and the end of the year but of course you know and I want every New Zealander to come forward but human behavior suggests that there will be some people that we have to actually really go out and look for and some of that may spill into next year but our commitment is everyone will have the opportunity to get the vaccine by the end of the year everyone will but I can't say that you know that we're not going to have some hesitant people or some people who just haven't come forward that we don't have to go out and find next year it was the one size fits all and you will comply yeah well we've got to be the people who won't comply somebody's got to stand up and say no I'm you know not doing it well Brian what's the meaning of yes if you can't say no well this is true so key question then is how did how did you discover the column oh it was a feeling you know of knowing from my own being my own intuition that something was very wrong and I just start researching you know what was going on and it led me as you know when you do research it leads you down different paths and I came across the UK column and yeah I met a lady on there who was also in New Zealand and yeah where yeah so you've used the word cathartic and I'll say this is cathartic for us to know why people how people found us and then why they stay with us so what do I mean I know you've said you've mentioned that to me but having that source of information which just when you're doing your own research it just amplifies that you're not alone you're not mad you're not mad you're not crazy you've got God given intuition yeah and that's what it's there for yeah to keep you out of danger yeah you've been the last question you've been through all of this and hopefully at some stage there's going to be an audience to this conversation wow what would you like to say to the audience what do you think they should be thinking about and doing well I think they should be researching for themselves the information has been out there for quite a few years now yeah regarding Willem and Melinda Gates I mean what's a computer salesman doing in pharmaceuticals you know that's just a common self question I asked myself you know and he's making billions of dollars and he's integrated with governments and this is where the World Economic Forum comes in because then I learned that the then New Zealand Prime Minister was was part of this global young leaders network where they train in a NGO for five years or something and come out the other side to the edge of a global leader so you basically said this is going to be like almost like you probably don't see like this the two different classes of people if you're vaccinated or if you're unvaccinated you have all these rights if you are vaccinated that is what it is yep yep can you just go out to keep you previously hoping not to be able not to have to do that I guess when we sleep like we could maintain elimination across the whole country I guess that has not changed because I think it was less less because necessarily of the elimination determining that and more because we of course maintained it and actually we have managed very high vaccination rates generally without the use of certificates but actually what it's become clear to me is that they're not just a tool to drive up vaccines there are a tool for confidence people who have been vaccinated will want to know that they are around other vaccinated people they want to know that they're in a safe environment it is a way that we can give confidence to those who are going back into hospitality or events and so that is something that I think we should offer to people who have been vaccinated that confidence that we are doing everything we can to keep them safe and that they can come back out and start enjoying those things safely. This is not conspiracy Brian this is backed you know these people in powerful positions have obviously got an agenda and they're following it through and we need to expose that this is the key to it is exposing it because once enough people see what they're doing it's over absolutely and you know I'm on my feet not on my knees I've got a child to think about and her future is everything to me and that's why you've got to be courageous and have a voice you're not a minority even though you think you are you know just on my journey around the UK I kept mentioning the UK column and why you know coming to visit you and you know just that a spot of doubt where somebody may like myself you know I've never you know I've never felt compelled to do research on governments and NGOs and world economic forum and the United Nations and the truth is out there isn't it yeah for you to find this absolutely yeah that is true hence the censorship I think because people are becoming more aware and obviously if you're aware you're you're a threat I think well if you're if you're aware you're forearm don't you that's the important one is far out yeah absolutely and but you know it's going to come to the point where people won't have a choice and won't have a voice yeah now now's the time to fight it's definitely the case it's now now I'll never yeah absolutely brilliant well thank you for coming all the way from New Zealand and you made it down here to Plymouth and you made it to the UK column studio yes it's been a real pleasure talking to you so Rachel well done thank you it's a privilege to meet you Brian and I think the team's amazing the work that you do is amazing and you're you're putting your head above the parapet and everybody else should yeah absolutely there we are for our audience you got to do it as well let's leave it there thank you you at sprouts farmers market we're all about fresh healthy and delicious step into our bulk department to discover a world of options with hundreds of scoopable bulk bins and grab-and-go favorites from wholesome grains and spices to limited time goodies like pumpkin apple cashews and butter toffee peanuts plus buying in bulk means you can get as much or as little as you like for your next recipe or snack attack visit your neighborhood sprouts farmers market today or flavor fills every scoop (music) You
Rachel speaks out about her disturbing experiences whilst living in New Zealand during COVID-19 lockdown. Read the write-up at: https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/rachel-speaking-out-from-new-zealand