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Ep. 933. If One Hears Someone Else Davening שמונה עשרה (Shemoneh Esrei) Louder Than Usual, Should They Answer אמן (Amen)?
If One Hears Someone Else Davening שמונה עשרה (Shemoneh Esrei) Louder Than Usual, Should They Answer אמן (Amen)?
Welcome everybody shame number 933 getting back to our Hochas Barakos. Okay we started talking about last year in reference to somebody's davening Schman S-ray right but they're davening a little bit louder than they should be davening people I mean they're by established minus let's say for whatever reason you're not davening Schman S-ray you're you're not up to there or you paste it whatever the case is or you finish and the person next to you is davening a louder Schman S-ray the no there is not the cousin but the person is supposed to doesn't lower and they here it happens all the people sometimes you have the daven louder so we said in general it's not so simple to enter a main and you hear the end of the brachi you hear the whole brachasi right so you're not supposed it's not so simple to say a main after that he brings down does the safer Hochas interesting that there's someone to say mamish if you could to go away to move away to the point us can also says that you know he brings us out and again it's all our sim and rich test for Islamic Gimmel us can also the enemy who you've loved with some could do this mohya the line is you know I mean you don't have to stand there that's a bit in epsular lakas of misham he brings down this he's bringing down from the Hochma Schlimmer interesting that if you could walk away right he not embellish my necessary anyways but in epsular lakas misham if you could walk away you're used to torture you like misham it's better that you leave that area and then don't bring yourself to a question of should I be answering your mention I'm not be answering your name in mukhrah lamisham he says but if you mamish you have to stay there whatever the case is you can you can't go let's say somebody else is davinings mon esri on the other side and you're not supposed to walk in front of somebody davinings mon esri right we know that somebody's davinings mon esri not supposed to walk in front of them with and this you sort of like I don't want to say the word trapped but then he says that that yanna amin to say amin others said not to say inlan es amir achravon amin crevice with his yoga moshi brings ashcos of the mutlana it's actually new he brings down from from the yoga lakav that you're allowed to answer amin but it's not a key of al-kaim leyanna in oimade the mokkim tres also the haphsik Afopisha Mutl the haphsik shamlan is amin he says by the shat's face followed be called wrong even if you're in a place whereby you're allowed to answer by hosar sashat but you're sort of like in the middle of davrin they're not tense because of the fact that that you're allowed to answer he says but it's not a key of he brings from the bizela khachnam just going through a few different sheet is over here that would be also mutter to answer but be it as it may a person should try and get out of it and not to like we saw before of the not to not from the khachmash leyanna not to hang around over there if it's possible to walk away whereby they won't bring themselves to a Suffolk of having to say I mean under the brochas are not having to say I'm not having to say I'm in under the brochas now it's a little drop easier we said we spoke about last share we started getting into it what the avocados shamas probably he did so somebody Davins be he did is came to me dinner he brings down an ICU and came into me dinner the mutter also the spall of a coil somebody doubting be he did stay they're allowed to dab in a little bit louder you dabbing by person whatever the cases by themselves not now with a menu and so on then he brings Amideen in one could down in a little bit louder or in a number of omni that someone to say to that to answer I mean if to those brochas if you hear it and the same thing he brings down before then because she may have to feel as if you know could show this Robin and sometimes a little child you hear saying in Spanish research has followed the call right here a little child above the age of clinic we said last time there was a question below day there's a lot of things the child is above a nine right nine eight nine whatever the case is that it's down here a lot of times he needs a little kids that having a little louder so he says what they could share may I feel as if you know you could show based Robin from this power will be called the Davining liberal out of the mutter line is a crime on me so after their brochas you could answer on me because my said they're doing it there they're sort of learning me time he brings on the bottom islam and hey me time check costful who are going on now the most part of your heat is to me Dina's mother if some examining be it is right that by themselves so the me Dina's mother loyal as part of the program the me Dina they could have been a little bit louder fees there you can't have a loud but a little bit louder a little fees there who are didn't hook up a team that gets chemis pal and but they didn't call wrong let's say these little children and nine eight nine years old and they're they're saying it's my nasty they share a lot of times you'll see these old children they're trying so hard to say she might necessarily the right way and it's louder so you could answer all many things on the fees that who are didn't hook up a team that gets chemis pal and bechater mccaldrond the came in chemotorumless Paolo he says an euslam and hey the cave in chemis and mccaldrimless Paolo Bacall since you're allowed to um came into the term in the spell Bacallrum since the child could say it a little bit like they look on homeless Paolo um he says in order to sort of me it's a question of clinical right training the child the right way is mutilada is acharem so he brings them to answer after them amen would be okay um and then he just finishes over hane shamebe buchishmeir um schmanes achare mikha veyre somebody hears from the ephemera shoshan and yam kippa yoshan yam kippa also i'm not going to say it's like a trailer but but it's easier medina kerushi yashmatim they're those who say it's okay to dove in a little bit louder again not everybody holds like that but some over there it's much easier yoshan yam kippa le spaldrim to them in a little louder what the line is acharem amen so others say over there it's answer amen would also be fine um but again he does bring down an oislamid vov on the bottom that again from the ela he brings from the ela famargan that lachat hila toiv laha'uhiq alayhiq alayhiq alayhi shamebeir shamebeir shamebeir shamebeir shamebeir shamebe again the best thing is you should try if if it's possible to move away even even from these cases even from the case of rasashana yam kippa because over there tamaq alaykis also uh somebody darmanish mone sri in nakrad sashat sashat sashat sashat sashat siaf tanta but the bottom line is be it as it may somebody darmanish mone sri even um if you're able to move away tava le harkik he brings again an oislamid vov from the ela famargan tava le harkik shalululish muyamekhavari sim habrakhis uh to best things to move away from ina yachal if you can't move away in those cases we just mentioned as ayana k then you could answer kimisham material like a rasashana yam kippa and and the child or whatever the case is uh kimisham materialist power since they're allowed to darman a little bit louder rasashana yam kippa called rahm alpha pith lehahat halein lehahat halein lehahat halein better not to do that mikamah kimisham bital on this or main yana so if you really bottom line is this how it brings it down if a person's stock what am i gonna do where i can't go because let's say somewhat like we said somebody else is darmanish mone sri on the other side i can't pass him and this guy's darmaning or the child's darmaning on the other side i'm sort of like stuck over there so then in those cases to answer our main um would be definitely much easier again the case of samadam mechida so with the case of the child um or the case of rasashana yam kippa would be easier okay the same thing lemisa mains down the sif piscatruv is a page tuftoflamid at the end of ayse hey in our simon rage test vob he says raschamaya eskha very here your friend lusbal bircus from an s-ray um dina puzkim et meyana akhra bechrai so vermaine so we saw it better to move away it's not so simple but he says am nam kishima spall yirid is sabe es dabri bair bihid isa bit feelus sha rasashana yam kippa um meshamidina is mutilag biyama a takul yana a man so over there then he says one would be able to say am n we saw it's better to move away even in those cases but if somebody's there in those cases to say am n it's definitely easier okay he just sends off another thing which is we something we have to talk about says the in in ace number 35 at the bottom the piscatruv is akhyaish luskur dina huaina raschai um one has to be careful not to answer a man louder than the one who's making the bracha that's an important thing to keep in mind which we have to talk about akhyaish luskur which be careful dina raschai lag biyakur they're not to pick up the voice and say a loud a man um you're not supposed to say a man louder than the person who's making the bracha but we'll see you have to talk about that so he brings that down to be careful with that in these cases if you taka are answering am n in ace number 34 on page top to flammed in piscatruv is thank you for listening up for akham bracha