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G'day, friends, there's Blister Guy and for Thursday the 7th of November it's episode 1383 a Walk to Walk and Mobile Hearthstone podcast day one in space. But before that obviously we should talk about the elephant in the room. Also if you're listening to this episode and you think the last episode was 1381 it's because they did an episode yesterday and maybe you didn't refresh your feed as frequently as some might and you may have missed it. Do feel free to go back and listen to that one or not. Just download it though, that helps, that helps a lot. Anyway, yes. So yesterday we watched the 2024 US election and for some people, myself included, it was a bit of a rude awakening about what it was an expected outcome. Now some of the language I'm seeing online this morning is, to paraphrase, people was, I can't believe America voted for racism and misogyny again. Now I don't want to get too heavy in this but I'm gonna tell a little story about an Australian film I think from maybe the 2000s or the 90s or so called The Castle. Now you may have heard quotes from this movie, you may have seen snippets from this movie even if you're not Australian. It's almost family friendly, it's heartwarming film about a family down to earth Australian family who live in a small house by an airport and the synopsis of the story is that the local government has decided to annex their property to expand the airport and they don't think that's very fair and so they go to court to find it. But the story paints a picture of this quaint, almost aloof family, they clearly love each other very much. It's an extended family, you know, the kids who are old enough to have left home come around for dinner and all this stuff now and they talk about each other and they talk about things that seem quaint and innocent and silly and in a sense the movie is presenting this family to be laughed at in a sense because you're supposed to go oh how sweet, oh how innocent, isn't that silly, isn't that? But of course it becomes, you know, the story is a David versus Goliath sort of thing, like where they try and try and think it's the local government to be able to keep their house or their castle as they call it. Now this story is fun, it's a nice watch, it's good to watch but again that whole thing is that family is presented almost in a sense for us to laugh at even though we also laugh with it and that's what makes it a good movie because it's told really well, like if you want to compare that to say Big Bang Theory is a TV show, a lot of the complaints people had about that was like we're laughing at nerds but not with them, we're making fun of them and so the desired audience is not us nerds but people who aren't nerds so they can laugh at nerds, right? Whereas interestingly enough the Little Sheldon Show that followed resonated a lot better because now it was a show basically about an autistic kid and we weren't laughing at the autistic kid, we were laughing with about the situation and everything and that's a great point of growth from that show anyway, back to the castle, that family, very aloof, like also they would always go on holiday to the same local lake and like the patriarch of the family, I'm starting to share Australian generally it's like turn around and say to a son how about that serenity, right? You know he's always talking about love that serenity and of course in the background there's someone in a jet ski beatling around on the lake so it's not even remotely serene but like he's still basking it because that's his reality and that's his life and so I think when people are saying I can't believe America voted for misogyny and racism, I don't think by and large they did, there will be some people out there who were like right on buddy I'm on, that's exactly what I'm on board with and those people of course are pretty horrible people but that was always going to happen, there's always going to be people who are like that, by and large there are a lot of people out there who don't see what we saw because they are not as online as we are, they're spending more time working with their family, they're just not as connected as the rest of us are, they don't see that but what they do see is that the price of gas has gone up, the price of milk has gone up, everything is harder, you have to work harder for less now and surely a changing government will help that, that's what's happened and I think we are going forward going to see in countries all over the world that pretty much every election will result in a change of government because corporations around the world have squeezed people enough and the people don't know how to respond or deal with that because it's out of their control and they think maybe a change of government will help and because they don't see everything else they just see that and they think this is how to deal with it and that's why I think every GOP rally started with are you better off now than you were four years ago and you know it's very easy to look at that and laugh and go four years ago we were in the middle of COVID didn't you see the trailer trucks and dead bodies outside hospitals like you know what no the family from the castle and people like them did not see that they didn't see anything but they did see that they were told they would let leave their home and so on right they didn't see any of that but what they do see now is that stuff costs more now than it did then and they also don't understand that that is a global problem not a US problem to them it's a US problem it's a them problem and a change of government will help so that I think a nutshell is what happened and what happens next is what we do about it so that's that anyway look day one in space let's get back get back on topic and that's I think all we need to say about that but I do think interestingly I thought about this last night is when I started this podcast was I think February 2016 which if you remember was the last time the GOP just took office and I feel like maybe there might have been something in the water there about you know metaphorically speaking about me feeling disassociated from the rest of the world and wanting to create content again to reach out to people like yourself to be part of a community to create this kind of community to be part of a community to reach like I think that might be partly why I even started the podcast and I think now that I didn't I didn't you know recognize that at the time but I think now more than ever we need places like this like this podcast another Hearthstone podcast community is like the Hearthstone community and the Magic the Gathering community even and other gaming communities and online space like this we need this kind of place for each other and also to remember that we aren't the only ones in this space or in these other spaces and these other spaces don't necessarily see things same maybe you know I don't want to do one space great duck beyond came out yesterday and of course a bunch of people played a lot of things there was an early front runner for the best deck which uninterestingly is the elemental mage the fire mage but also it's a little more interesting than the elemental mage used to be but you know pick an aggro deck and make it good then it's always going to be good on day one as everything else is refined that thing I talked about earlier this week with the there are no good threats only wrong answers I know bad threats only wrong answers thing a proactive aggressive deck does that well all right well my game plan is blah I'm going to do it are you going to be able to respond to it decks that are more reactive have trouble finding their groove figuring out how they're going to respond to it so the fact that elemental mage was the best deck immediately doesn't necessarily mean that it always will be and we've already seen sort of shifts in that matter as well and we'll talk a little more specifically about the the new cars that are seeing play in a moment but let's just talk a little about those meta trends first well actually you know what we should do we should think patreon before we get too far i'll forget about that okay where are we up to in the list up here uh oh we're up to no spare time so thank you no spare time and all the patrons that support the work we do here at patreon.com so let's discuss it all goes a long way to help to fray the costs i incur doing this and emotional and financial you know what i mean um so yeah me doing this podcast for my own benefit really is a slight strain on the family and having done it now for apparently eight years or almost eight years uh there's a cumulative effect there uh anyway so that's really helpful and if you can't afford support that's totally fine patreon.com so let's just go tell a friend lever review uh that all helps as well just hang out engage be part of the community and help each other and love each other that i think is what matters and what is important now where were we i had opened a channel that i had some notes and that's right so day one i think let's look at popularity first elemental mage is at 28 percent of the uh where we're diamond-legend metagame uh which means it's very popular people want to try it out they found it was very effective and they're like oh all right our next most popular was quasar rogue at 12 because this is a fact flashy fancy thing that we saw in theory crafting people like i want to try that now the real notable thing here is that mage most popular at 56 win rate quasar next most popular at 38.9 win rate not actually very good especially into the vases like elemental rogue uh next up in popularity at 6.6 so right down now so we have two decks at uh 28 percent and 12 percent uh so you know over 40 percent of the metagame two new decks and the next one at 6.6 percent is odin warrior which is not nearly as popular but the reason it is popular now or at least more popular than other things is because it's good against elemental mage and also quasar rogue like one of the things that quasar rogue does is goes aha ha we're going to deal some damage but not too much damage just enough damage and we're going to do it in a flashy fast way and the warrior is like cool well i played shieldblock on turn two and i played uh what's it called uh garasha's gift on turn three and another shieldblock and so i'm on like 40 um how you doing you know and so obviously it's quite good against both those decks and then after that we've got various other death knights uh will warlock and stuff like that all doing variously well uh and so on down there but the big story course is elemental mage and uh watch me call it an odin warrior so let's now talk about power level odin warrior is the highest with the win rate of 59.2 percent uh which is probably because it is preying on uh elemental mage next up we have pipsey paladin at 58.7 percent uh the popularity that is 0.8 percent not very many people are playing but obviously it's still good because it was a strong deck before uh and probably is even stronger now due to a few new cards buttons death knight doing obviously very well at 58.5 percent nostalgia shaman that's wave of nostalgia of course that also good against various things people do and just capable of being explosive and making a big board and then having the opponent go what are you going to do about it at uh 57.9 percent elemental mage at 56.1 so it's very popular and still quite good as well um highland death knight is doing well mech warrior is still good rainbow shaman uh and so on and so on and so on down the list so we we can see where we're at with that stuff now let's talk about some cards that we haven't talked about a lot uh between now and then to see where we're at let's talk a little first about the element of mage cards we have talked about some of these before but let's talk about them again uh spontaneous combustion the two mana commons spell fire spell of course uh i guess we'll talk about why it needs to be a fire spell in a moment uh but it's still four damage to random enemy if you played an elemental last end choose the target that can go face you can make it go face that's plenty of damage for two mana uh given you're aiming to play an elemental every single turn of the game you're always going to be able to do that and two mana isn't too much like sometimes what you get with curving elementals out you're like i need to play a one-minute elemental in turn three and i've got nothing else to do i got a hero power you know it'd be better spontaneous combustion solid performer blazing accretion is the reason you want to fire spells and elementals it's the three-minute three-one elemental stats not great for the cost but they'll do battle cry destroy the top three cards of your deck any fire spells or elementals are drawn instead so bearing the lead a little bit there this is basically a three-minute three-one that draws three cards in a fire elemental mage deck and it's obviously very good and now that elemental mage which was previously almost a thing now has an incredible draw engine to draw those cards and a solid little burn spell also we have now solar flare which is a five-minute fire spells common deal two damage to all enemies cost one less reach elemental you can draw five minus too much to play but it is a fire spell so that's totally fine and let's face it what happens here is the spell is cheap and you just play it for free and it goes face and that adds up now the best elemental mage lists don't run serene with the legendary the most highest win rate ones which is a shame we are running today the one with serene and the version with serene is still up there right it's just not quite as good as the others and maybe that's partly because people are making sub-optimal plays like keeping it in their opening hand and going whoa it's the legendary of course we've got to keep that but serene is the uh six minus seven six battlecraft the rest of the game elementals in your deck have plus one fire damage which isn't the ones in your hand i have played this card a couple of times you've got oh no wait i've got the uh the elementals the serger or whatever it is my hand the serger being the four minor three two uh summon a copy of it for each elemental you played turns up to this so you know if you play out and turn four and you play an elemental and turns one two and three that thing summons four four of them so four mana for four four threes is obviously very good and that was a strong play even before all the stuff now posts are in and i've been on the receiving end of this plenty playing the lad last night and sometimes if they played serene and you know he's a game still going they just go okay well elements and serger i make seven of these things uh they all have plus one fire damage to that that's nine fire damage uh oh i say plus seven fire damage so so hopefully there's nine damage for zero mana now to all enemies that's your minions and you and well adds up pretty quickly there doesn't it uh not to mention of course uh spontaneous combustion could just go face it doesn't even need to go face that point you can still be random there'll be nothing left for it and play to hit so um it's just a good solid aggro deck or you have to do just curve out elementals and it does a lot of burn and it's very effective and probably still does beat some control decks as well so that's the baseline of why the format is good does anything need to be done about it who knows we shall see uh let's talk a little about a new card that is in the warrior decks now that really helps and that's hostile invader not really talked about this card much but it's a common demon five mana three five uh in warrior which is probably good because it could be good in other classes too uh but of course there's stuff that generates random demons and sometimes you get this in those deck and you're like oh okay five mana three five stats a little lower than you want obviously battle cry spell boost and death rail deal two damage to all other minions when you're playing a control warrior deck and you just drop this on turn five it does two damage to every or the other minions uh then you just play spell for free because you know you've got safety goggles and stuff that's just another on turn five to be able to play a five mana minion and play a single spell to get it to do four damage to all other uh minions is really really very very powerful not to mention when it dies it'll do two damage again there's just a lot of sensible board clears here like if a fire mage is curving out a bunch of three two elementals into play and you just come up with a a three five that does two damage to all enemies solid if it does two damage to all enemies and then you play a safety goggles to do two more oh that's that's pretty back-breaking for them so obviously that's partly how uh Odin warrior and mech warrior are doing so well right now now there are a few other cards i want to talk about because one of the other things that's been doing okay uh early in the stats even though i didn't see it anywhere on the things let's just have a look hunters are we way down the list like 53 percent win rate mystery egg hunter basically you know the the mystery egg and stuff there's there are discover versions of people playing as well and they're not quite as good but mystery egg hunter is still playing these cards um detailed notes is a spell we haven't talked about uh two mana common hunter spell has no type discover a beast that costs five or more reduces cost by two so the pool of beasts is not that big at that point i have definitely won games against elemental mage with a discover hunter deck by on this uh like turn two playing this and discovering a uh what's it called the hound uh you know the six mana three five that has rush and cleave and life steel hollow hound hollow hound discovering that and going oh i've got one of those that cost four mana now um okay that's gonna be a pretty good turn four and it was and i won um also i had played the uh rangari scout turn four so i got two copies of it which i thought was especially good and not only that my opponent was clearly not paying attention because they played into the second one perfectly and they should really have known it was there if they were tracking my hand but that's beside the point of note with detailed notes is a card that nobody's adding to their deck but i've discovered it frequently with detailed notes on turn two and it's been really good not because i want it in my deck in any way but it's called mutating life form which is a neutral epic five mana and it's uh got all minion types so it's a beast and it's there because it costs five mana uh when you discover it with mutating uh sorry not with mutating life form with detailed notes i think of three and several times i've let out rangari scout on turn one detailed notes on turn two and picked and picked mutating life forms i've got two of them now what you have because it's a five mana three eight now what you have is a three mana three eight on turn three also it says after this survives damage again a random bonus effect those bonus effects are things like divine shield illusive taunt uh stealth technically i guess which not the worst thing lash deal uh win fury and most people don't have an ability to deal eight damage to something on one go and so it does tend to survive damage a bit and start picking up abilities which can be quite nasty and getting one of these down on turn three i do remember winning with it several turns later because it was still like because it had illusive and win fury and plus mana attack at that point because i think beasting minutes are like weird card that nobody's going to put in the deck but you're going to discover detailed notes and actually perform really well anyway the other cards from this deck uh again we're bringing the little bit but exact naya next arch exarch naioly the legendary i don't know how it's supposed to be said i still don't i like the fact that leo roblis gonzales the leader zone is said made a rap about pronouncing cards from the set and didn't mention this one anyway this is a three mana three four good stats to annoy uh battle cryo place your hero power with tracking discover cup not necessarily critical hero power exactly what i want to be doing in harston this will not be the last time you hear me talk about this card i love it so much and i have played it a lot so far i haven't upgraded it to golden yet and i haven't upgraded my kill jade into golden yet but i'm pretty sure both those cards are going to get upgraded pretty smartly uh this thing is incredible i love playing it so clearly hunter is doing a lot of discovering stuff between detailed notes and exact naioly which leads us to the last card which is where i say bearing the lead alien encounters five mana rare spell no type does uh summon two two five beasts with taunt cost one less for each card you've discovered this game i almost played hunter today and because egg hunter which i've been playing a bit of still has like a bunch of my reveal cards one of which is titan four straps if you forge titan four traps and then play it you've discovered two cards two secrets and that reduces the cost of alien encounters by two so i have coined this thing out at four mana on turn three and it was good enough like two two five taunts is a lot of stats and four mana is okay to pay for it three mana is a lot better two mana is even better but generally you will discover enough stuff that this thing is zero mana you just keep discovering more and more copies of it and just playing them and there's a lot of fun not necessarily the easiest deck to pilot and basically any hunter deck this discovery stuff should probably be running this uh but there are a lot of ways i did have a game that i played last night with just discover hunter as opposed to um egg hunter and i'm pretty sure i beat my opponent by playing alien encounters for one mana like four or five times just with like a type of pupil and stuff it was a lot of fun anyway those new cards we're talking about i think today obviously uh oh yeah i mentioned this yesterday probably missed it today the reason i recorded yesterday and today which is a day early for both them is that i have to take a day off work tomorrow my wife has a minor procedure so i have to just look after good she should be fine she's just got like a thing that's a mole to be removed kind of thing but it means i won't be able to easily record tomorrow so next time i record it would be Tuesday and that's ages away so we'll have a much bigger picture of how things are going by then also maybe by then i'll talk about what's wrong with wild because my goodness i haven't talked about like after this game this game will probably be quick i'll talk about wild i'm sure we'll be going into the translation while i talk about wild my goodness it is okay let's let's just say it's ceaseless expanse costs a hundred when you draw it with holy wrath and holy wrath is a much more consistent deck than it used to be so holy wrath paladin in wild anyway we'll get to that i played some games last night one several of them very quickly lost several of them to agropriest who killed me on turn four and one i lost several mirrors it's gross anyway we're opening house and we're going to play some this element of fire nature with sarin the legendary even though welcome to my hey harth thank you that's what we got all right we had spaceship yesterday it's all good anyway um even though sarin is not the best performing version of this it is clearly the more fun so we're going to play that um i think i'm in platinum and wild just as i played some games uh before the patch with questline wallock uh and after the patch with holy wrath paladin because uh i also played some standards so we're currently wild all right it says we're in platinum eight and wild and this is from not really playing very many games this month at all and in standard we are in silver tin so we haven't played as many but i have played some games i had a battle cry quest and so playing some games with the elemental mage made a lot of sense for helping complete that but anyway we're queuing up elemental mage i really only diamond tin i think i am silver tin not diamond tin silver tin that's not that far from bronze it's all right oh yeah i did get 11 times more clan instead in wild as well which i wasn't really surprised about because they climbed quite high and then stopped playing because we had other things to do okay so that's us if there's the mage it was the rogue so i'm guessing quasar rogue which you know can have a broken start if they want but i think we are probably favored we have an opening hand with flame rivener it's a two-minute two three after you summon an elemental give it plus one plus one at quite archivist which is a two-minute two two battle cry your next elemental cost two less then we have blazing accretion which is the uh three-minute three-one that's drawing but spells is great and a lamp lighter i don't think we need the lamp lighter yet but we do want the accretion and the other one so let's get a red lamp lighter whether we're coining out two elementals on turn one or just the blazing element of there's a flame guys that not maybe not as good as the lamp lighter to be honest but it'll do nothing from the rogue turn one we have the coin hey we're drawing siren so if we don't coin an elemental turn one we're not playing an elemental on turn one we do that we can't coin out siren on turn five i think we have to play an elemental turn one and i think what we're doing is we're pointing out the flame rivenant and then we're playing the echo archivist because at the very least there uh well i mean technically we can't oh my gosh i'm just thinking if i do archivist on turn two i can coin out siren on turn three oh that's much more enticing all right we're doing that it's the greedy play but on the podcast we're playing echo archivist on turn two we're coining out siren on turn three they're staggering up the rogue is staggering up this is a good time but they could play knickknack check next turn and prep quasar turn after and then we can die but that's all right so turn two echo archivist pass to and now this as far as my phone's concerned is the dreams are off of them because i did not play an elemental on turn one but little do they know that i'm going to there we go mic drop let's draw in the two cards giving them plus three attack on the weapon now they're gone faces to trading with my minion because they do want to kill me with thing all right relation shards we don't care about that coin so room so turn three we're playing a seven six all the elements of my deck now have plus one fight damage so we can face the two put in the 28 so the good thing about having minions in play is it makes asteroids harder to kill with now there i assume are going to be in incendious into have eruptions too there's a knickknack check on four that's not prep that's not prep quasar this is a great sign for us they're considering using the knickknack check but they're not doing it we can narrow attack for nine this turn we've got four amount of this turn we have we're just drawing a tainted remnant that's a five minus seven four battle-cracking played an element the last turn deal seven damage around this but we do need to play an elemental this turn we have several options they have a three one weapon we can glacial shard them this turn that seems good so i think we're just going to play hmm uh tough uh yeah we're going to play flame raven and get that in play now we've got two mine left uh i think we're just going to play shale spider maybe i don't think we need to glacial shard them this turn so let's shale spider that draws us a card and also gives that plus and plus one we're just drawing glazing accretion great and we go face for nine without minions turn them to nineteen and next turn we should be able to play a tend to remnant uh because we played an element as this turn and this point they will have plus one fly damage so the the glacial uh what's this called uh flame guys are guys on my hand is doing extra damage already so they've just activated the knickknack check into in five they're pointing something at the shale spider it's a tentacle grip so it's doing three damage and given them a tentacle so i think they are trying to set out the combo rogue combo turn with sonya and stuff so this is probably sonya rogue not quasar they'll play the second knickknack shack they're going face with their dagger nope they're attacking into the flame raven that's much more prudent but i still only have a two two and a seven six and they're on 17 so we need to aim to eight this turn there's another glacial shard not as important taint and remnant does seem good though so that's going to go face for seven this will go face for seven this will go face for three and pretty sure they're on one all right no no so seven and seven four two yeah okay well they're on one and i'm a mage so they need to heal this turn or kill me this turn and i have a seven four seven six or two two on play there's prep maybe they do have face up prep quasar they've got it they've got two on my left as well so the hand is being shuffled into the deck they have two open knickknack shack so they may well get us they're on one they need to get us they're daggering up the oh oh dear oh okay harmonica pop for zero mana that's okay so that'll reopen one of things that's put me down to 21 the dagger has got four attack using the knickknack shack there's a dig for treasure i was like why are they daggering up that harmonica pop makes sense uh they they're constantly cycling through the knickknack shack now and playing what they draw there's blood mage delanos the reason they're getting to do that is because uh everything in the deck costs three less now there's an adversary on my face for five putting me to 21 uh that's the last of one of the knickknack shacks and then they're considered because they must have just drawn i'm guessing the second quasar list of one thing lifting the deck that doesn't cost zero unless they have anything of sport they yeah they may be drew a dubious purchase actually that cost will cost one at this point uh or maybe even if they haven't sent us they drew that but never mind so that's that's what i'm talking about quasar road and that's why quasar road has a 39% win rate it does incredible flashy things they can't beat the best most popular deck in the format which is elemental mage and all we did was just curve elementals and yeah you don't make decisions about how you curve your elementals decisions in your mulligan and maybe i got a little greedy with the turn three seren but also i was thinking that what rogue is going to try and do is probably quasar asteroid me they have more burn than that so tentacle grip and eviscerate and stuff as well makes sense uh but having that makes the asteroid having a big minion play makes the asteroids less effective because they start soaking up some of the asteroids it doesn't end up on face and then they'll get to steal a win out of it and of course also we just hit them hard and frequently and that made things tough for them so there you go that's how elemental mage works i could play again because we're not quite at the train station but i actually think now i want to talk about wild so if you're i don't want to say new to this game because you don't have to be new to this game to not know what's going on here you could have been playing this game for like four years and still have no idea what i'm about to talk about but there was a spell in the original classic set called holy wrath it's a holy spell unsurprisingly it costs five mana and it says draw a card and they'll damage equal to the cost of that card to something now we have had holy wrath combo decks before they want to do things like draw molten giants because molten giants were nerfed to 25 at some point then they printed a card called shavala the tiger which was a 25 mana legendary it was a seven five divine shield rush lifesteal minion that cost was reduced for each money you spent on holy spells this game but when you draw it it's still 25 even if you spent mana on holy spells so the original combo was set up somehow so that you can get shavala the tiger and then holy wrath someone for 25 and hope it's enough uh renith l meant that that was much less of a thing these days the key thing here of course is that ceaseless expanse has been printed and is a hundred mana so now holy wrath if you can set it up we'll always do a hundred mana which is a hundred damage which is way too much for anyone to handle now the rest of this is of course is how do you set it up ordering the court was a spell that was printed at two mana you might remember this from nathria two mana uh sought your deck from most expensive spell to the cheapest spell and then draw a card now that would mean you would draw the ceaseless expanse making it not very good for what we're doing but they nerfed it and you know how they nerfed it they took away the draw card so now ordering the court set ceaseless expanse previously shavala to the toppy deck and then just passes and so then you play holy wrath and you draw the most expensive card in the whole world and previously deal 25 and now you do a hundred I had a mirror game yesterday where we were going back and forth playing a rebuke on each other which is a two mana spell that makes your enemy spells cost five more uh so you know can't go off the stern timeout which makes you immune to the next turn you know we're jockeying back because it was like okay I have the combo but they just play timeout so I have to wait they also have a bunch of minions and play I have two holy rats in hand I'm just going to use a holy wrath on their holy cowboy and we'll get to that card in a moment uh just to make sure I don't die next turn if they don't have the combo if they have the combo I might die anyway but like well maybe I had a timer I don't remember if I had a timeout I wouldn't have done this but anyway our holy wrath their cowboy drew the ceaseless expanse and did a hundred to it I was like oh no now if I had not played holy wrath I still would have drawn it next turn and gone oh dear now the deck has ways around this like you can play uh syphindly the depths to put it back in that kind of stuff I've seen people playing guests like gatekeeper to help there but the deck also has survived the tiger in case you want to hit someone for 25 I had a draw yesterday where I had what looked like the perfect opening hand and then immediately to resist this expanse but I got a holy cowboy and a uh just to hear a power token and play against take combo pre-stick they hit them for five because it's a four three and one one and then I comboed with shavala the tiger instead for the last 25 so that worked anyway the reason seven mana isn't out of the world and accessible is holy cowboy that's the three mana four three your next holy spell cost two less so as long as you're playing this on turn four or three you can spend um two mana to order the court and then three mana on holy wrath that's doable uh you can also be playing uh lanesa sun sun soaking on less or is it whatever it is that lets you play road cards so you can play sea shield to reduce the cost to your next non-road card that'll work too and of course metal detector to get you some coins to pair it out as well so this deck can assuming the right draw which is not hard because the deck is all manipulation I go off on turn five or turn four of the coin I've done that on a number of times but you know sometimes also you do it in turn six because you hit to do a bit of stalling as well uh so that's pretty nasty for wild right now it would be incurable not for the fact that aggro priest is kept totally capable of killing them before then and you might be like not through a timeout it's that yeah but if you timeout you're not playing a sea shield or a holy cowboy on turn three to enable the turn four or five kill so the minute you have to be doing stalling stuff on turn three because aggro priest can kill you on turn four and does I lost it several times last night then you're not having to turn five kill anymore so it's very volatile very powerful the last time we had a deck like this it was the oaken summons druid and puppeteer dorian got pup master dorian got nerfed so I imagine something might get done about this as well but it is cranky now we just played against quasar rogue and standard quasar rogue is also good and wild obviously not as good as holy ref pelon we should see how that goes but yes it's really cheap and easy to set up holy ref and order the court funnily enough the best nerf to this deck is probably to revert the nerf to order on the court they didn't revert it when they're reverted nerfs going into wild because it had created this holy ref deck and that was kind of cute right so well don't revert the nerf to order on the court because that's actually a nerf to order of the court now whereas now I think we're at the point we're like okay might be time to undo that nerf by aircoids buffing it because right now wild is wow I mean look wild has been pretty hostile hard to play for like look with the charged druid list or the toggwagel druid list with elk and summons and stuff and juicy psych malon uh that was pretty hard on the format but it wasn't totally unplayable then their nerfed puppet master dorian and wild was a lot better all of a sudden not perfect way any stretch of imagination it was a lot better but now i see this expanse holy wrath pellets oh okay okay all right then that's that's a that's a an issue now will I climb to a legend with this deck or agro priest they seem to be my only two options i'm not so sure about that there's a thing uh but you know it's still early in the month i could probably wait out a balance change and play something else instead i kind of want to try questline warlock with health stone that sounds like fun it might be the next nastiest thing to do but we should see but yeah wild like while standard is interesting we've got elemental mage we've got i guess odin warrior we've also got like asteroid charman is doing well i didn't even talk about that discover hunter is doing fine egg hunter is better with this still with all the discover stuff there's plenty of stuff from the great dark beyond that's doing well and standard uh there's control death knight control death knight without star ships or with star ships mostly i think without star ships is better control death knight with the eight threat the eight hands from beyond i think it's the legendary eight mana eight eight from death knight double blood rune it just says destroy everyone's decks except them eight most expensive cards apparently that's very effective um and then you end up in these big sludge slug feasts with mirror matches and the trick is you need to play eight hands from below before you play the headless horseman because you don't want to kill your headless horseman head because at some point you're going to be at a a bit of a resource battle where you want to be able to discover undead uh and but also you got kill jade and i guess as well like and also you want to wait to play your eight hands from beyond until your opponent has played a headless horseman so you can try and take out the head like weird stuff right uh but those aren't even the best decks because odin warrior is probably better than that and elemental mage is also just very good at burning that kind of thing out um if you were to play the eight hands from beyond against an elemental mage what have they got left uh lamp gliders and surges and things uh well that might just add up to a lot of damage if you're not careful anyway there's a train coming i should get on this so time 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