The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
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Didn't end good. 9-3-6-1, it's a terrible loss because a regression to what the Texans are is organization. Last season and a half fans have had their hopes up that we have left our find a way to lose culture behind. Unfortunately, any long-term fans saw this implosion coming a mile away. I'm glad I was able to spot it and lay a bet on the Lions at +457 at halftime. Good on you, 9-3-6-1, hedged your emotional feeling. So a lot of Texans fans unhappy today. At least you got a little bit of a financial win. I didn't see the implosion. I mean, I anticipated that what we had seen leading up to this game was that the Detroit Lions were going to be clicking on all cylinders and that the Texans with the injuries and not playing great were probably not going to, you know, be in the lead or have the game with a chance to win it. The implosion to me was something that I was completely not expecting completely because of the fact that you get five turnovers. I mean, you're doing things where you look like you're getting back to your old self-offensely from a passing perspective from an offensive line perspective and hope starts to build. And you start seeing positives where you go, "Okay, this is good." And then to end the way it did and then completely lay an egg in the second half. Yeah, they hadn't been playing great football lately. So the fact that they put that first half on tape looked like, "Hey, okay, this is the turnaround game." Yeah, I thought that they were going to win at the half because they look good. Their defense was playing really well, so I thought they would at minimum preserve the lead. Getting to the offensive line in a bit. But how about the decision to kick the field goal for D'Amico Ryan's. D'Amico Ryan's trying to kick the 58-yard field goal from Chaimi Fairbairn just after the two-minute warning. There's a fourth and four for the Houston Texans. Well, the kick, yeah, from the 40. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to me, it's one of those deals where I understand him going for it because Chaimi's been nails from 50+, and it's not about the leg, and he's been really accurate for the most part all season. But I also think when you're at home, I can understand the second guessers. You're at home, you pin them way back. And the fact that, you know, much like when you say you're going up against them at homes, or you go for two because of the fact that you're on the road and you don't want to go to overtime, like the Tampa game, I think it was a week ago, I understand the conversation. To me, I was fine with him kicking the field goal because if you had a different field goal kicker and there was a different vibe because of the way you've been kicking this year, maybe different, and I do understand that you want to try and pin them back because of the fact that you -- But you're not playing to make the plague because you think he's going to miss. To me, I felt like he had a really legit chance to make it. I did not expect it to be as bad a kick as he made it, but I'm fine with the decision. A bit of a high snap, a bit of a high snap from John Williams. I see people say that, but it was about the helmet of Townsend. Yeah, John, we can have those guys down really quickly. Yeah, the second question to that, or the second point to that, I guess, is do you think it affected the kick? I think the Townsend saved it. I think the Townsend saved a bad enough snap that I'm not sure it impacted the kick of Chaimi. See, that's where I'm at. He yanked it left, though, so you could push back. Well, he missed it. He's not missing that badly all the time, but I thought the Townsend saved it. I'm okay with kicking it, too. Now, it is a little bit -- D'Amico's been more aggressive with Chaimi this year than he was last year. There were times last year where they were deciding not to kick 54, 55-yarders in hunting, and hunting, and it's like, "Oh, my goodness, D'Amico's super conservative," because he was punting with opportunities to have Chaimi Fairberry kick 54, 55-yard Philgos. I said in the time that I felt like they had to kick it, I can certainly understand the decision to go for it, but I was on team kick to Philgos. Did you say they had to kick it because if you lose all the momentum and all the errors out of the building and you have a chance to get the lead back? No, because I think the momentum's the same, right? If you convert the fourth and fourth, so you go for it and you convert, like, "Hey, you're going to have a chance to now probably move the ball down, I feel a little bit set up an opportunity for a game winning field goal." If you missed it, it's, "Oh, no, here we go." It's kind of the same feeling. Like, you make the kick, everybody feels great. You miss the kick, everybody feels poorly. You convert the fourth down, everybody feels great. You don't convert the fourth down, everybody feels poorly. So I feel like a miss kick and a failed conversion are the same thing. See, I disagree with the same, being the same thing. Now, I do agree, kicking was better than punting. Punting was the absolute worst. I don't think punting was ever an option. Punting was the worst decision you can make because the Lions had plenty of time just under two. I don't think punting was even in the equation, though. I think it was either you go for it. Well, Joel brought up the idea of punting, so that's why. I don't think the last night in the equation. The team's very frequently will say, "I'd just rather pin him back as far as I can and then live with a second." There was too much time left. They had, they'd be moving the ball easily. They had timeouts. I thought punting was, yeah, it was the worst of the three options. The reason I would have gone for it, one, obviously, is fourth and fourth, so it's not sort of short, sort of long, distant situation. And to me, even if you kick the field goal, like, even if you're successful with the field goal, the Lions still then pretty much have the same situation as if you could punt it. They still have almost two minutes with timeouts. They've been killing you all second half. And worst case, I mean, they can just kick another field goal and send you to overtime. Well, that's not worst case. Or, well, okay. I'm sorry, best case they can kick a field goal and send it to overtime, or they can still go down and win it. Or you could stop them and get the ball back. Yeah, but there was nothing in the second half film to suggest they were going to be able to do. I'm just basing it on the probability of what we've seen in the second half. Whereas with going for it, you can obviously run additional time off the clock. You can make it an easier field goal. And if you fail, you fail in the field goal, they get the ball eight yards closer to their goal line than if you go for two. So I thought going for two is the easiest decision. Or the best decision. You mean going for it? Yeah, going for it. Okay. I never thought, and I guess that's just me, I never thought that they were thinking about going for it. Well, they probably weren't. I think they should have because specifically with the going for it versus the field goal, you lose eight yards of field goal or of field position. Yeah, because of the placement of the kick. If you missed the kick versus failing on the fourth down conversion. And obviously the upside of converting the fourth down conversion is far greater than kicking the field goal because you can run additional time off, get it obviously, get a closer range for the next field goal attempt and take some time outs off their ham. So I thought it was a blunder on the part of the Mica Ryan's. I thought they could have went for it. I posed the question because I thought it was a 50/50 proposition. I prefer the kick there because you're trying to take the lead. Now it is a 58 yarder. That's not a tip. That's the problem. You can't, I mean, I fair bear missed two kicks against the Jets last week. I mean, one was short, he just shanked it. A little different though, playing there. Yeah, that stadium has a lot of problems with wind as well. But yeah, I just 58 yarders. You just can't guarantee. Yeah, I don't think you can compare it to New York though. Planning is fine. But I mean, to your point that you made before I mentioned New York, I mean, you can't guarantee. This is not a 35 yarder where I'm with you. Kick the 35 yarder. This is a 58 yarder. You lose field position by eight yards. If you miss it, plus the advantages of going far far outweigh to me the risk. The Broncos are on line one, they'd like to tell you about a 35 yarder. No, I thought it was fair to, I don't know if I want a second guess it though, but I thought it was fair to go for it. I was on the fence. I lean kick the field goal there just to try to take the lead, but can certainly understand going for it in that spot. The numbers on it, this is from Texans cap who pulled the numbers on it from, I think, ESPN analytics, the percentages of making the field goal are 49.2. The percentages of making the first down are 52.3. So the numbers slightly favor Brian's decision to go for it. Yeah. I don't know what it does for the whole like win percentage aspect of it either. But I thought it was a 50-50. I don't think that the Miko needs to be like hung over the coast. No, no, no. I agree with that. I think that maybe part of it was you were getting swayed by the fact that they kept throwing the graphic up that Kaimi already had tied the record for the most 50 plus field goals season with 11, and that he's been nails, you know, kicking the 50 plus yarders to where I felt like, yeah, he's got a legit chance. I would like a couple more yards. I would have liked, you know, maybe to get a little closer, but at the same time, I felt fine with the fact that he was going to try and get three there. 0 8 3 5. The defense of passing interference that wasn't called cost us that game. That's a fair point. I knew a lot of people were going to be on that one. Yeah, it was a missed call. It was a missed call. There's no doubt. It doesn't erase what I think was a poor decision after that by the Miko, but there was a missed call. Yeah. But it does convert. Like all the positive of going forward and converting happens on the passing interference call. If it happens at nine, six, six, six, I cannot disagree more with BMAC. The past three drives, four plays, four yards, three plays, one yard, six plays, six yards, nothing the offense was doing suggests going forward. Well, the current drive, they had moved the ball to that point. So they moved a little. I know. Where do they start? I place 30 yards on that drive. Yeah. So there. I mean, look, to me, the odds of go, I mean, in the ESPN analytics back this up, the odds of go converting fourth and four versus a 58 yard field goal are greater on the side of converting fourth and four plus the benefits far outweigh the negatives when you compare the two. Yeah. I think the negatives are about the same. The negative. Yeah. Well, the negatives are actually worse than the field goal side because you lose eight yards of field position. The eight yards is the difference. Yeah. Between the two. And that turned out big. I mean, what was the, how long was the field goal that the Lions kicker made? But they also. Three, 52, 53. I think it was 51, but they also chilled like they played for the field goal. They had. That's true. Yeah. After all. After all my rockets, they did. Which, by the way, you need a critical play. You got to have it. Situation against the Texans. What do you do? You line up your best receiver in the slot Texans. Do not have an answer. Well, Aziz al Shire was on that as they were playing zone, but Aziz al Shire was on them. If you I'm right, I watched it again this morning and I'm looking at it and they had the trips on the one side anyway. And I'm like, well, where's where's Saint Brown? Because you know that that's geared that that's golf's safety blanket. And at first, they had three, three defensive backs there and Shire shifted inside to the at between the edge and at the linebacker. And then all of a sudden they moved the receivers all kind of closer to the line to the lineman and Shire comes out on the end. I go, Oh my God. And then he took like six steps backwards and all Brown had to do was just get off the line of scrimmage and turn and look and it was right there and it was first. Yeah, you just ran a little zag route and it was wide open. They had to the Texans have a timeout. Well, remember he was taking time out, which I thought was curious to stop the clock. He was taking time outs on the opposite side of the 50. I think they were out of timeouts at that point, but they had a time out after that play. Yeah, he had one left. He took time outs after every he had all three time outs after the line. I'd have to watch it again timeouts after every single play. I'd have to watch again to see how much time they had between when I'm on shift or when a Z shifted out to win the ball was now, but man, if you're D'Amico and you see a Z line up when I'm on raw timeout, no, no, no, what are you going to do? Like that's they're going to do the same thing the next time and that's that's the way you played. Change the formation change. But they don't do that. Well, I'm saying they should. But they don't ever. I know. But they should wait down. I agree, but you're not going to take a timeout to do something you never do. Like they just don't do that. It's not in their game book, like it's not and they don't do it. It's not their play. That's not a defense. What is if it's not in your playbook, you're not going to take a timeout to do something you don't do. You can at least change the person now on the field. They don't do that much. They're a nickel 98% of the time. Yeah, I mean, okay, that's the game, lose the game for the linebacker and I'm on wrong, but that's what's going to happen. It happened against the Jets. Like everybody was saying that with Devonta Adams whenever they saw that Jalen Petrie was lined up against Devonta Adams that he should have taken a timeout. Okay, cool. Take the timeout. Then they're going to do the same thing. And you're still going to have Jalen Petrie or Aziz al-Shyles because that's what DeMico does. I mean, I don't know if that's that they never do it is that if I'm not saying blaming you on this. I'm just saying not that the fact that they never do it is not a defense of my book. As I recall, Brian, to your point, though, I believe that the play clock was there inside of five seconds when they after the second shift to where when he popped back out to where I just I don't think DeMico is going to I don't think he's going to burn a timeout to Jeremy. I don't think he's going to call a time out there anyway, but that's one of those where there's been two shifts. The guys are moving around all of a sudden. Oh my God. Shire. El Shire is sitting right in front of Saint Brown and they're getting ready to snap the ball. Yeah, I just this is not what they do. Should they do it? Yes, but they don't do it. Unfortunately, that was so burning until you get a stop there. It's burning them back to back games. It's not only back to back games. It's burned them all year long and must have its situations. You put your best receiver in the in the slot and you're going to have a big play where you go with the offensive line configuration whenever we learned it, it kind of goes back to what we were talking about Friday. Like why aren't they letting us know what the offensive line is because they've changed it. Jared Patterson at center, you bounced out juice scrubs to left guard. What do you think of that? Yeah. No, we talked about the fact there might be something bigger than this, even if it didn't involve Howard, I was I was encouraged because of the fact that there was only so many things you could do. We had talked about it. The fact of the matter was if you didn't go out and get anybody and you know what you're dealing with in terms of who's out and the guys that you could possibly have, it was one of two options that really made the most sense for this week. I was optimistic that any kind of change at all might be something that could be effective. And then when I saw them come out and the fact that CJ had a little bit more time and it looked like that they were able to get them enough time to actually throw some, you know, execute some pass plays, I felt good about it. I'm just completely mesmerized by the fact that they went from a great run blocking team or a good run blocking team that can't pass block to save their lives and their pass blocking improved by a great margin and their run blocking sucked. Yeah, I thought that it looked like he had a little bit more time, especially in the first half. I haven't seen the pressure rate from this game, but they showed a graphic in the second half that it was still above 50%. So it's like, I don't think that the pressure rate really improved that much. Now, D'Amico did talk about it and D'Amico asked about what he thought of the offensive line. Here's what he had to say. First thing that said to me was there was something to the fact that they were getting out of the huddle late and that juices, reeds going to the line of scrimmage was a problem. One, they made the change show, okay, they have some sort of inkling and then afterwards the communication was well, like he said, the communication was better, basically. So maybe problem solved or problem close to being solved. There you go. It was an issue. There were a few plays in the first half when obviously everything was going much better for them on the offense than it was in the second half, but there were a few plays where they would show the replay. We could clearly see them picking up not only stunts, but the situations where they will walk linebackers up to the middle of the offensive line, which we never really saw in the games leading up to this, the thing being able to handle those situations. Yeah. So I think that the, I like the move too. I think they're telling us that Juice Scruggs is not a center. Problem with that is that he's probably not a starting caliber left guard and Shaq Mason's not a starting caliber right guard. Like the guard play is poor, like I'm okay with Patterson at center, I guess, but their guards are really, really bad. Shaq was not good. I don't think it's fixable. I really don't think the offensive line is fixable. Like we talk about the potential. I think that their potential is still really high. I think the biggest thing that is stopping them from reaching their potential is their offensive line play. And then it begs the question, if it isn't fixable next year, are we looking at how many guys are we looking at being changed out on this offensive line? I think it would be a minimum of two, but I think it might be more. I think that you're looking at at least your guard. Like you just said it. If Juice is, yeah, if Juice isn't the guy at guard, then, and then the consideration is you drafted Fisher. If Fisher could be the replacement to the ever getting more expensive by the day, Howard, you can have three guys. It could. It could be very easy to be three. And if you wanted to make an improvement at center, it could be off. It could be four. No question. It could be four. Now I'm okay with Patterson. I think Patterson solid. All right. What do you believe after this college football weekend seven, one, three, seven, eight, zero, three, seven, seven, six, it is the bees on ESPN 97 five and ESPN 92 five guys got one game left on the NFL schedule tonight. 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Bet anything, anytime, anywhere with the only place I tell you to do it. My bookie.ag promo code BET975. The winners, the losers and all the best college football moments this weekend. Time, time, and from the red and a box on Georgia Tech's got it. Did you see it? Fresh. Sure. Bet goes down the balls on again. And it's the Rebels football. Can you feel it? Do you believe now? Do you believe this? I'm awesome. Do you believe? Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Do you believe that? With the killer beans. Do you believe? No. What do you believe? 713. 780. He's got a sweet deal and he can't be fired. Someone said he just fired everybody else because he's going to get paid for the next nine years at a very, very high rate. Florida State head coach fired his OC, his DC, his wide receiver coach. Yeah. That's a tough deal if you're a Florida State man because you're stuck with it. I wonder. I wonder if they try to find a way to buy them out. I just don't know if they have the money to do it. A&M could do Old Florida State guy at A&M. Yeah. Yeah. Like A&M could do it. Right. I don't know if Florida State can. What a mess though, man. Like you go from being undefeated in the regular season last year to now being one of the worst teams in powerful football, like you said you fire both of your coordinators and then you had the news came out last week to some of their like 24/7 guys, their recruiter guys or whatever. Apparently Keon Coleman was telling recruits not to go to Florida State. The wipes here from Bill's? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Really? Yes. That's what they reported. Some of their recruiting guys reporting. And then people like, people were saying that this was well known there, but it's never been reported. So they reported it. And Keon Coleman was telling recruits not to go to Florida State. Because one of the reasons why Jimbo got out was the fact that he said it's a state school. You got to get everything approved. They don't have the money. They don't want to back the school. And that's why I was surprised they gave him a 10 year deal because it just didn't seem like something that they'd be in on if they're always scrounging for dollars. Now the fact that they gave him the 10 year deal, they're one and nine. That's bad. It's one. It's got to be one of the biggest epic collapses in recent history. Like to go fall for the race and everybody I mean what their calling card was they got screwed last year out of the playoff and then they bounce back in on it like they want to prove it to everybody. They're a great program and they craft the bed to one and not. I think it's it's got to be one of the better epic collapses. I can't think of one bigger. The only thing is that last year was kind of an anomaly like you look at Norbell's years there with three and six, five and seven, ten and three, thirteen and one and out one and nine. Like the thirteen and one kind of came out of nowhere. I guess he was building up to a little bit with a ten one season, but yeah that is that is a really weird deal. I mean he didn't lose like the farm, did he? I mean he had good recruits, but one quarterback got hurt. That's why they didn't make me. Yeah. Oh last year. Yeah. Yeah. Last year they had they brought in the Uga Lele guy. He was an absolute familiar DJ's played there. Absolute failure. He was okay last year Oregon State, but maybe that's why he was okay. Miami's been on fraud alert all year and I'm glad that that somebody finally got him. Blues to Georgia Tech, they've had close calls throughout, nearly lost the Hail Mary game to Virginia Tech. I forget who they played the next week. Remember the crown of the helmet play where they if that call gets upheld and the other team just keeps the ball keeps it away from Miami. They lose there. They've been on fraud alert all year and finally somebody got him. Finally somebody got it. Watch the part of that game. I mean Haines King has been impressive, but as a runner, you know, he's run it all over the place. He's barely throwing the football, but that was a huge win for GTAC. Y'all add on to that. I think Miami's loss now puts the AC is ACC in a spot where they can only get one team into playoff because Miami to me because they were already up at number four the nation was the only team that could lose the ACC title game and still get it. Now you could they get to the ACC title game and lose they get a second loss with a super soft schedule. I don't think the ACC can get a second team in. I think this is a one bit league at this point. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I had that down on my list because I think we're going to play SMU. At every moment. At every moment. At every moment. At every moment. At every moment. And as SMU undefeated? Well, they're undefeated in conference, but they have one loss at me or at home to BYU. Yeah, I think that that's a one and done for whoever wins gets in and the other one is done. I agree. Probably so. What else do you believe Ryan? I believe that in addition to the ACC having a problem with only getting one and I think right now the only path for a second big 12 team getting into the playoff is if BYU goes to 12 and 0 and then loses to Colorado in the big 12 title game with obviously Kansas State getting the loss to Houston and what was the other two takes so long to think about Houston? Bro. Cool. I just, I mean, looking at the conference standings right now, I mean Arizona State right now. An unrate team is third. I just don't think there's any teams that can get in there outside of BYU if they don't win the conference. I think that's fair. I think I actually had both of those are the one team that wins is going to get in. The other one's probably not with the caveat if Colorado gets there and they lose a tight game. I don't think they can. They really want beyond in there. I know I completely agree with you that they will try to get them in there but with three losses and it's a soft schedule. I mean, they don't really have any quality wins other than this last week at TAC. Yeah. I think Dion has to win out. I think Colorado's to win out. I think the only way the big 12 gets to is the exact path that Brian said we're Colorado wins out. The 12 championship game over in undefeated BYU and then there's hope for a second. What else do you believe? Brian's still all you know. No, I've got it written down but I've got I still don't believe wholeheartedly in Indiana. They're winning football games. It's a great story right now. But I just think when all of a sudden they got to do well, they got Ohio State. Yeah, they got they got Ohio State and I think that one I just I have a feeling they're not going to get in. Indiana is a football school. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. No, I mean, they haven't beaten what their only ranked win was Nebraska. No, the only winning team that they've beaten was Nebraska. Nebraska. You ever changed a schedule? Like a hundred. Did you see that? Yeah. Yeah, I did notice that. Dana Hogan's working again. Yeah. He's they brought him in. He's their OC, which will be fun to watch because they do have a pretty good quarterback. So we'll see how that plays out. But someone texted into Indiana's football school. I've been trying to tell you. Yeah. Let's see what they let's see what they do against some of the big boys. Some of the big boys. It's been a great year though. I mean, great year. 10 and 0. You kind of play with your food a little bit in Michigan. Daddy's fun. Oh, I love that guy. He's good for college football. I love that guy. LSU cannot defend a mobile quarterback. Marcel Reed got them. It was like, oh, we didn't play it. We didn't game plan for Marcel Reed. Okay. Well, then Jayla Millroy goes for 12 carries, 185 yards, not one, not two, not three, but four, four rushing touchdowns against the mighty Tigers. And LSU never loses a night game in Death Valley. They got hammered at night in Death Valley before after the game. The comments. What do you say? He goes, oh, those big, bad Bengal Tigers that don't lose a game at night. Oh, did he really? He goes, we had them run. Wait, he had, he goes, we had them running all over the field like Michael Vick running from the SPC. Yeah. Oh, you lost the fame the early. Just unloading. Where did you see this? It was on, um, I'm wondering if you got God. Oh, did this have been like a incident with the facts? Did you find us on Twitter? Yeah. Yeah. I'll find. Oh boy. Could, could Kailen Dabor have said we were running like Michael Vick from the SCCA. I think you might have got. I think you might have got. He's like, oh my God. Good. We'll, we'll look into that during the break, but that doesn't feel like a 95% chance you got. I don't feel like that's something that a head coach would say about his football team. But we'll, we'll, we'll research. We'll check. I thought the refs got the holding call in the Utah BYU game right. I thought it was a good call. You see tug. You see the receiver gets separation. You see tug and you see the receiver kind of get yanked back towards the defender. That was the correct call in the holy war. Go tell the AD. You got fine. 40 grand. 40 grand was the highest fine ever for an AD in the big 12, right? It was. Yep. That was tough because I thought BYU was going to be another. There was a lot of teams I thought were going to, like Miami and take it on the chin, but they found a way to. What you got? I think the Heisman race is down to three people. I think Cam Ward's out after that loss. I mean, the, the schedule was always going to be, I think, a negative factor, but being up at number four, putting up the big stats was going to keep him in the race. But I think we're down to Travis Hunter, Ashton Jinti, and Dylan Gabriel, that's, that's your Heisman. You think he's been eliminated? Sorry? You think Cam Ward's been eliminated? Yes. I think if they went out. I think he might still get a trip to New York. I'm not saying he's like off the board, but I don't think he's going to win it. Yeah, they went out and he's got a really good chance because he didn't play poorly in that game. He did not. Have you put some big numbers down the stretch? I wonder what the odds are. I think Dylan Gabriel still is pro. I mean, I, my pick for a few weeks ago was Ashton Jinti, and I still believe in it, but Dylan Gabriel's probably the favorite if I had to guess all over the years. He didn't have a big pass again against Merritt when he was under 200 yards. Going to Fox 100 plus 1/30, Jinti plus 300, Gabriel plus 3/30, and Cam Ward dropped to plus 800. Yeah, he's not going to win. I mean, he would need a, he would need a tear. Yeah, he would have maybe some help. I don't think he's going to get credit for it though, the schedule is soft. What else we got? Um, I think it's going to be fun just to watch out the SEC out of the SEC log jam place out. You got six teams alive I think. Yeah, it's amazing at this point of the season again. This is what you'd love to see down the stretch where with every, you know, in that conference, just to see who gets eliminated, it's going to be a whole hell of a lot of fun. The, uh, texture, um, key from L.A., he says, I believe that Colorado will win the big 12 and get an automatic bid into the college football playoffs. A little redundant. That one there. Key from L.A. But, uh, not a bad one. You have any more Brian? Uh, I think, uh, Texas showed that, uh, they've righted the ship. I mean, Texas is back Texas is back Hey, if you do your big 12, they be Florida without DJ lagway. Texas is back. Look, I mean, they still have to prove a lot, but I mean that in the, after the Georgia loss, they played a sloppy game and damn near got beat at Vandy. I think they've righted the ship in that those types of games aren't going to happen to them down the stretch, uh, against Kentucky, uh, and against Arkansas this, uh, coming weekend. Now, A&M on the road still a concern and if you have a rematch with Georgia in the SEC title game, which seems to be the betting favorite at this point, not confident on those, but I think Texas is righted, righted the ship to a degree. Right. Texas is back. I did not say that. One more nation. Texas is back. Final one. I got big 12 is underrated. There are no games in the big 12, do you see the cannibalization that is going on in the big 12 right now, but whenever the SEC has this happened, when we talk about how the SEC cannibalizes each other, same thing that's going on in the big 12, the big 12 is cannibalizing each other. No easy games in the big 12, no layups in the big 12, three top 20 teams. And what do you have in this league? You got swag, you got drama. What a league the big 12 is underrated, big 12 league. All right. What are the stupidest plays in Houston sports history in honor of one Titus Howard, who tried to take the ball on a right tackle option from his quarterback, CJ shroud yesterday. What are the stupidest plays we've seen in Houston sports history? Seven one three seven eight zero three seven seven six. It is the bees on ESPN 97 five and ESPN 92 five, nothing stupid about HR and P. That's a segue. My call a U of H class of 1990 go Cougs. He's been protecting the interest of businesses for nearly 25 years. 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On ESPN 97-5 and 92-5. It's Joel Blanken, Jeremy Branham. I saw one of the craziest things in the football game yesterday that I've ever seen in a football game in my life. Titus Howard, right tackle for the Houston Texans who used to be a quarterback, I don't know when, but used to be a quarterback, tried to take the ball from his quarterback's hand in a third and long and run with it and it was not successful. He knocked the ball free, fortunately the Texans recovered and they can just punt it away. But Titus Howard had one of the stupidest plays that I've ever seen in my life. Now he said after the game that he was just trying to hold CJ Shroud up, DJB Anime tweeted it out. I guess he believes him. Aaron Wilson tweeted it out. I guess he believes him. I know that Titus Howard said it. I don't believe it for a second. That was the dumbest football play I think I've ever seen, Blankers. It was stupid and there's no way that you can candy coat it and spin it no matter who decides to retweet it and put it out there. He was literally ripping at the football, trying to take it away from CJ. And what the hell was he doing? Like it caused the chaos by causing the fumble. CJ otherwise has two hands on it. Just wrap it up and go down. You're going to get sacked. But yeah, that was absolutely asinine when I saw it. I was like, what in the hell is he doing? And then was a Trico that said he used to be a high school quarterback or something. I was like, so what? That doesn't mean you take it out of your NFL quarterback's hand. That was. I couldn't believe it. I was stunned. Not in live. It was hard to tell based on like the camera at the midfield. But when you saw the replays from the other shots of it, it's like, oh, slow by clear. It was clear. He just reached in like he was going to take it out of a basket. But whenever he was live, I was like, did he just try to take it? Because when it happened live, it was tough to tell. It's the first time you see it and you're like, okay, that kind of catches you off guard. So I wasn't 100% sure, but I thought that he did. I thought that he tried to take it live. And then they showed the other replays, like, okay, well, it's very clear that he tried to take live in the whole, like holding him up argument. He's reaching for the ball. He's not grabbing him by his shoulders or by his arms. He is ripping the ball away, proven by the fact that he ripped the ball away. And you also see whenever he like kind of has the ball in his grasp and it gets ripped off, you kind of see him turn, like you see him make this this turn. Yeah, so you're not going to hold the guy up and then also at the same time try to make this turn like you're going to run up field. So I have zero. I know it tied as Howard said. I just don't believe him. I have zero doubt in my mind that he tried to take that ball away from CJ shroud and run with the football. He tried to act like it was the last play of the game and the Texans needed a touchdown when they're up by three at that point and like just pun it away. That was so dumb. Yeah, when I was watching it, I thought live that he kind of chicken winged it like he accidentally they bumped shoulders and his arm was coming up and his elbow or something was able to kind of knock the ball out. When you look at the replay, he not only like tugged at it, he got it to where it went a significant distance out of CJ's hands when it kind of got pried out. And so you know, CJ was hanging on to it for dear life and when he finally had to let go, it kind of sprung out of there and no offensive line ever should think it's a good idea and they have a better chance for success when he has the ball running with it as opposed to a skill position player. Yeah, the only time that that's acceptable is the last play of the game and you must have a touchdown. That's the only time that it is acceptable any other time it is never acceptable. A Tyler and Conroe, Brown, I'm about to mess around and get people are get put on leave for a couple of days again. Look, if that happens, that happens. But I got to tell like it is. And if those are the risk of telling it like it is, well, those are the risk. So what are the stupidest plays we've seen in Houston sports history that parallel what we saw from Titus Howard yesterday? Well, the first one that I had on my list was the, the fail Mary against the Jaguars when you all you had one job, you had one job in the Bears know exactly this feeling. All you had to do was knock the football down and it wasn't even to the end zone yet. And instead you popped it up in the air and it went from a guaranteed win to one of the most crushing losses in a season for the Texas. Yeah. That one, that one's hard. Like that one's tough. Like you're defending a Hail Mary, like that one's, I could see why that's on the list for sure. Oh, she got, I had Chas McCormick slapping Ty France's arm and glove on the double play ball. Oh, that's a great call because everybody was like, really dude, like what are you truly doing right now? That was really dumb. And he got hit after that. He got plonked. Yeah. It was, I think it was the final play of the game. And he did it. They still, like France still caught it. And it wasn't successful. Yeah. I think it was like a four or five run lead, something like that multi run lead. I don't think there's anybody on base. He's trying to slap at it. They didn't even work. Right. It didn't even work. France caught it. And yeah, he got drilled later rightfully. So by the way, I had no problem with Jasmine Cormick getting drilled after that silliness. Oh, because after that member France to got hurt, it heard his elbow. They had the trainers were looking at him as well. I thought there was a different play. I thought that was a play where he reached into the baseline. I thought they also after he got hit that they were looking to sell. Maybe he was trying to play it up. Yeah. I don't remember that. I had Bill O'Brien's fake punt versus the Chiefs. He has. I mean, that will live for a long and live it in for me for a long, long time. So I had the one that I personally take a lot of stock in is the fact that Damon Lillard got the three to beat the Rockets and eliminate them that year because Michael specifically said that Patrick Beverly was going to guard Damon Lillard, no matter what. And when they came out of the huddle, Hardin said, no, no, no, Pat, Chandler's going to get him. You just stay back and go over here and Chandler could not get around the screen and Lillard hit the shot to beat him and everybody was standing and if you watch, if you ever go back and look at that play, they're talking and everybody's going, wait, so are we doing what Michael says or what Hardin says and and Lillard gets a wide open look hard and change the play, change the defensive assignments to get out of the huddle. That's surprising. I've spent 10 years blaming Chandler Parsons. I'm glad I came out switch my blades and the beard. The one that I have is the Rosencopter. Yeah. Rosencopter is up there. The Rosencopter. It was just the way that it played out. Like he's over there slinging through the air. Like he, I mean, that's why I called it the Rosencopter because he's sliding all over through the air and he fumbles the football in a costly moment. Did you have any Brian? Yeah. The one that came to mind instantly, well, besides the Rosencopter in the Hail Mary that Cecil Schwartz got bad into his hands that you guys both mentioned was the walk cap play from the 2015 30 to nothing loss to the Chiefs. I mean, the idea of like, I know JJ Wadd had been a weapon. There was that year where he had three, three non defensive touchdowns as a receiver, but it's the idea you're going to take this defensive in and ask him to like quasi make a read and make a run as a running bag because it wasn't saying the what cat. The what cat play here. If you're from the other text line 713780 ESPN where the stupidest plays in Houston sports history in honor of the great brilliant mind of Titus Howard 5038 Eric the drivers as the fake pun of the Chiefs game. That was one that we brought up. If the ball would have been turned over on that play, the Titus Howard play, would it be worse than the but fumble play? The Mark Sanchez, but fumble Sanchez lost the ball of the but fumble, right? Yeah, he did. He did. He did. Would it be worse than the but fumble? I think it's, I think they're on the same tier. The Astros have like a butt slide, but slide. Yeah. Somebody was thrown at second and they slid right into somebody's butt. Yeah. I mean, that's got to be up. I forget who it was. I was. Oh, was it Valar? I thought it was Gomez. It might have been Valar. I thought it, for some reason, I want to say it's, it's, who's the? It was Valar. It was Valar. Brandon Phillips tags out John Valar with the, the butt slide. He was the utility guy though. We might be thinking of the same guy. You just can't remember the name. Yeah. Um, that has to be up there. It was a butt slide is up there is one of these stupidest play. Now that's not like a bad IQ play. No, it's just, it's unfortunate. How about Jose Altuve and the playoffs going around second base and then retreating back to first without ever touching second base? Yeah. Like that's one of the dumbest plays. We've seen in Houston sports history and that one gets elevated because of the stakes. Jose Altuve taken off his shoe. Nah. I mean, that's not stupid. That was just showing up. Yeah, but to show that he actually got hit like, I mean, yes, it's stupid because it's going to be an automatic. No, he's going to get ejected. So like I see where you're coming from, but I don't think he cared. Yeah. I don't think he cared. Even exactly what he was doing. Yeah. I think he was totally okay getting ejected there. My favorite part about that too, is he played innocent, like he, like he didn't know he's going to get ejected. Then you had great messenger who said after the game that he, he went, he started to find his glove as soon as Jose Altuve started to take off his laces. Yeah. I remember saying that. That was, that was hilarious. 71370. I was going to say there was another butt fumble recently, not being used in sports, but there was one in the league that they said was going to be compared to the butt fumble for a long time. The long time one in the NFL is the Giants game, the, the, were Hermette. Oh, yeah. They ran it when they didn't have to. Yeah, they didn't have to and fumbled it and Hermette, which picked it up, ran it for a touchdown on the Eagles. One of the game. Yeah. That, that one that they said was like one of the biggest scripts of all time. The non-Houston one that I remember is, um, Sage Rosenfelds running out of the back of the end zone. Oh, that was down a loss. That's a loss. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That was pretty bad. That was, that was as low as the guess. He's right. And not what's really funny about that one too, is he wasn't like toe on the line. He was like three yards deep. He was like past the wife. After he did it. He like kept sprinting. Like he was completely oblivious to where it was. If we're, if we're expanding nationally, I mean, going 30 years back now, but we got to bring up Chris Webber. Oh, the timeout. The timeout. Yeah. Yeah. The timeout in the Carolina. Yeah. Face into Carolina in the title game. That was. Without any timeouts left. That was, that might be the all time one without question. Another one that actually benefited Texans. This was from the two, I think it was 2012, the Thanksgiving game against the Lions at the Texans one Justin Forsett had a long, I don't know if it was a reset, a reception or a run that he ran in for a touchdown, but he was clearly either down or out of bounds. Some of the details are a little fuzzy, but the Lions coach, instead of letting it be, uh, set of the limited, the automatic challenge, uh, run its course because it says a scoring play and it's automatic reviewed, he threw the red flag, which then meant the refs could not review the play and cost them, cost them the game game that goes overtime and Texans win. Yeah. That was, um, got it on the rules. Yeah. Got it on the rules. Leon let play. Oh, it's going in. It ultimately mattered, but it didn't, but he dropped the ball before he went and all the guys that dropped the ball before they go in. That's just ridiculous. Yeah. That was a pretty good call. Gerald, Gerald, Texas, stagger Lee 1987 Oilers division game at Denver. I don't know that one. I don't remember stagger Lee. You have to educate us. Uh, seven, one, three, seven, eight, zero ESPN who was the cowboy? It was a, it was a regular season game against the dolphins when it was snowing at, uh, the old Jerry world. Yeah. And there was a, there was the block field goal and one, that was the Lee on the left. Oh, that was Lee on the left. Okay. I was, I was taken of the Super Bowl when the, when the, when there, maybe it was, it wasn't Lee on the left. I think it was Lee on both plays. No, that was, he's talking about the Super Bowl play wherever BB was running into the end zone. No, no, no. The cowboy was running. It's like, oh, BB is the one that knocks it away. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember who it was. I didn't think it was left though. 7, 8, 3, 0. Uh, here's the list. Astro's butt slide, the Rosencopter end of list. It's pretty good list. 8, 0, 7, 4, the crisp brown half back pass versus the jags that was, I was trying to think of that one. Yeah. That was a bad one. I don't really remember that one. I don't either. Yeah. It was a, it was, I, I vividly remember I don't remember who it was. I don't remember who it was. I didn't think it was left though. 7, 8, 3, 0. Uh, here's the list. Astro's butt slide, the Rosencopter end of list. It's a pretty good list. I don't remember who it was, but there was a rocket player who shot on the wrong basket and made it. It's quite a bit in basketball. Um, that might have been someone trying to get a triple double and actually made it. I don't remember. I don't remember a rocket doing it. I want to say Bonsie Wells. Oh, really? I don't know. Uh, 4, 9, 5, 8, Marcus Williams, not pushing digs out of bounds as in Minnesota and that Saints Patrick. That was the miracle in Minneapolis. You know, who was the quarterback of that bad boy, don't you know, go cooks, pulling cranky out by hinch, stupidest play in Houston sports history. Okay. Yeah. That's fine. If you try to dive in the air, tough, if you want to say you want to lower your shoulder and try to pick up the extra sure, but he tried to like leap, leap forward. He was not athletic enough for that boy. He was a dog. 8, 8, 0, 7. Every player who drops the ball before the end zone, I can't stand that. Yeah, like a few weeks ago, uh, we got half of it, right? So half of it was Leon let in the Super Bowl and it was Don Beebe that ran the ball down. So we got it all right. Yeah. Right. I don't know about the dolphins game in this. That was in the snow and things. That was snow. Yeah. There was a, there was a kill. There's a field goal that they blocked. And instead of just letting it go, a Cowboys player just ran in and tried to pick it up. It was mostly on that. I thought so. Yeah. I was dealing with one 509 to know why it bothers me, but Mike Tyson losing the Buster Douglas in Japan and not really knowing if it was a joke or not. That's not stupid though. Yeah. That was just an upside. I'll tell you what I think is stupid because of how good he was at doing it otherwise. The Nick Anderson for free throws for the magic against the Rockets in the finals. That's just bad though. That's just a joke though. It's not a joke job, but yeah, it's not exactly stupid. A 497 Brady not realizing it was fourth down in 2020. What did he do? Do you spike it on? I don't remember. Yeah. I don't know. I've seen a high school quarterback spike it on fourth down trying to kill the clock forgot it was fourth down spikes it on fourth down. That's high school. I mean, deck a couple of years ago and they're getting that playoff game Joel remember against the Packers. He's what he ran and slid down with no timeouts left. That was the one time in Lambo. No, it was it was in Jerry's world. Maybe it wasn't the Packers that they were playing, but there was maybe it was the Niners. It was just a year or two ago, but they had they had basically one play left and he decided to run down instead of get out of field. Yeah. Yeah. No timeouts. I don't know if that was against us or not. 8 9 9 3 since you're bringing up Lions Michigan stupid plays don't forget Lions coach Marty Morninwig taking the wind in overtime yeah, instead of the ball about how about a Matt Hasselback saying we're going to take the ball and going to score and immediately pick to Al Harris. Yeah, lose the game. Yeah. Thank you. Titus Howard for giving us moments like this where we can kick around the stupidest plays and sports because you tried to take the football away from your quarterback as he was being an option play. Yeah. Don't get a little quarterback right tackle read option never mind blocking never mind doing that never mind that he quit on the play. But once he's wrapped up go steal the football from him Titus where you go let's get to our mailbag Monday. What's your question for the B seven one three seven eight zero three seven seven six. 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