JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick

JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick ~ November 14, 2024 ~ Full Show

November 14, 2024 ~ JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick On this episode: Chris finds out who might run for Michigan Governor in 2026; learns how to talk politics with family over the holidays and finds out what the Department of Government Efficiency might look like.

Duration:: 1h 12m
Broadcast on:: 15 Nov 2024
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All right, so I need, I need a little bit of an explanation from this, Danielle, Brian, and maybe you can chime in. I, I've always known that restaurants or carry out places offer Thanksgiving packages. So if you don't want to cook or maybe you're going to be home by yourself, whatever it is, there's always an option for you to go out and get some sort of Thanksgiving meal. I knew that, but this has expanded beyond anything I thought it would be, because now more and more restaurants are actually going to be open on Thanksgiving. So if you want to go out to, to the Whitney or you want to go to the Brazilian steakhouse downtown or you want to go to Sullivan's or, or, I mean, any of these places, there's a ton of places downtown that are going to be open on Thanksgiving. I didn't really realize that restaurants were open on Thanksgiving like this. I didn't realize that. I've done carry out. I've never been to a restaurant. Have you done the whole like whole meal as a, as a carry out? Yep. Well, you have. We went to a, a, a plug at place. We went to Cracker Barrel and ordered their, yep, you get turkey or ham. You get all the sides. You get a dessert. You get everything. And it's just big, huge box. You just pick it up and bring it home. It's 179 for four to six people. Yeah. I know this because I just want their yesterday. Okay. And where, oh, to Cracker Barrel? Yeah. And I saw it at the bottom. Okay. And they have 179, 179 for four people, four to six people, but they also have an option that's like, wait, it's like 200 and some odd dollars for like 20 people. All right. So, I mean, that's a, that's a foreign concept to me. Well, it's nice if you don't want to cook that day and that mom can enjoy her day too. Sure. Or be in cooking or dad wars, doing a cooking, but we, in our family, we call it making the smell. Oh, yeah. When you make, don't look at me like that. We'll call whatever we want in, you know, we call it making the smell. You make the smell. Yeah. The smell of Thanksgiving. Yeah. Yeah. Where you cook the giblets and you put all the, that stuff and you make the, the gravy. My grandpa used to walk at the house and goes, oh, it smells happy in here. Yes. You make the smell. Yeah. I didn't realize that so many places are either A, open on Thanksgiving or B, offer these packages. Yeah. And I only feel bad because those people have to work on things. I always feel a little guilty about that. Yeah. Anybody that's got to work on a holiday. It's things. I mean, we've all done that. Yes, we have. We all, and we all still do. We all still do. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, I didn't realize it. To me, that feels strange because it's, it's just that you're not, there is that missing thing. There is, but it's also, it's also nice for somebody to cook, to be able to enjoy the date. No doubt. But our parents do a lot of the cooking, which is great. But I like to help. I like to get in there. I like to, to mix it up. I like to chop a couple of things. I like to, I like to get involved. I like to cook. But yeah, there is, it just, it feels like you're missing something. You're missing the chaotic part of the holiday. Yeah. I suppose. But it's, it's great that people offer that, that, that these, that, that these restaurants offer it. I think it's cool. You know, we've done the cracker bro thing at time or two. We've taken it to Bev's mom's once one year and then we did it at our house one year. It's really nice to be able to go when you're just, basically it was like, I don't have today. I'm, I'm working in the morning. I'm picking up dinner. I'll be home. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Meanwhile, the Senate race in Pennsylvania is headed to a recount. Dave McCormick, who of course is leading that Senate race was, was named the winner. But there are disputes over which ballot should be counted in that Senate race because some of those ballots are coming in and they're not dated. And so, Dave McCormick is saying, well, wait, hold on, we can, we can't count these ballots if they're not dated. We don't know when they're from. But Bob Casey has not conceded in that race. And now that one is headed towards a recount, something locally that is of interest. Court is set to pay a large penalty for moving too slowly on a recall and failing to provide accurate recall information. The automaker will pay fines up to $165 million for a recall involving faulty rear view mirrors. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the fine is the second largest penalty in its 54 year history. So forward getting dinged there. Also, some new information in the Oxford shooting cases, a judge ruling that each bullet fired by the Oxford High School shooter that caused an injury is its own occurrence under the Oxford Community School District's insurance policy, which clears the way for the district to offer $5 million per bodily injury claim to the victims of that attack. The insurance company had argued that its liability for the attack should be capped at $5 million. But Judge Jacob Cunningham in Oakland County Circuit Court ruled just a couple of weeks ago that the district would have $5 million to pay each of the 11 victims shot by the gunman. So now that's up to $55 million and it could go higher. It could climb another $100 million if the judge is ruling applies to victims who maybe sustained more than one gunshot wound or those that weren't physically hit but mentally impacted by this shooting. We'll get more on that story coming up a little later on. Meanwhile, Michigan House Democrats have a few things on their to-do list in this lame duck session. WJRC News analyst Marie Osborne reports one of them is advancing a bill that would expand the content of sexual education material in classrooms. Good afternoon, Marie. Yes, the House Democrats are working to advance a bill that would expand the content required to be caught in sex ed classes in public schools and then it would also ban on a lifted ban on the distribution of condoms or other contraceptives on school property. The bill was introduced this week. It would continue to require schools to stress abstinence as an effective method to prevent sexually transmitted infections, but it removes additional phrasing that describes abstinence as a positive lifestyle for unmarried young people. The bill also removes language that would bar the distribution of a family planning drug or device on school property and eliminates language that bars abortion from being taught as a method of family planning or reproductive health. The bill retains language requiring prior notice to parents. This is important to remember parents have to be notified or legal guardians of a student's enrollment in a sex ed class and access to course material as well as at least two weeks notice of their right to withdraw a pupil from that class. The new legislation would also require school districts to develop sex ed curriculum that covers a broad range of topics which would include consent, puberty, healthy relationships, gender, sexual identity and sexual decision making and all of this is according to representative Rachel Hood. She said Grand Rapids Democrat will introduce this legislation, Chris. So this is something that Democrats are trying to get through before the end of the year before Republicans take over the house. Has have Republicans weighed in on this yet? Marie, have you seen there? There have been a couple that have said that they're not pleased with these types of modifications. There's a lot here and it seems like it might be a stretch to think that they could get this passed by the end of the year. Yeah, something that we'll continue to watch. Marie, thank you for that. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. We'll take a break. Come back on the other side. But Mike Duggan, the mayor of Detroit, will not seek reelection for his current position and the rumors swirl that he may run for governor. There's a lot of other people that could be in that mix for for that race as well. We'll talk about who might be involved next on J.R. afternoon. So come 2026, Governor Gretchen Whitmer will be termed out and it will clear the way for a governor's race in Michigan where I got to tell you, it feels like there's going to be a bunch of names thrown into hat, particularly on the democratic side of things. And Mayor Mike Duggan announced this week that he was not going to seek reelection for his current job, but has kept close to the vest what his future political plans or aspirations are, leaving many of us to wonder what they might be. And I think a logical next step for him would be to run for governor and considering the strength and where Michigan or Detroit has come over the last 15 years under his direction feels pretty good. And it feels like that, that he would be very much at the top of that pedestal for Democrats, but there certainly are others. And then on the Republican side of things, questions are there as well. It's bringing to Craig Magra, the state politics reporter with the Detroit news. Craig, my friend, it's good to have you back. These next couple of years is going to be really interesting as those behind the scenes kind of jockey for, for, for that extra leg up when the gubernatorial race rolls around. Yeah, your spot on. Thanks for having me. I mean, people need to remember that these races get started very quickly. I just pulled this up because I was trying to remember the exact date, but Governor Whitmer, when she ran the first time in 2018, do you remember when she launched her bid formally for governor? It was January 3rd, 2017. So compared to this cycle, that would mean, you know, January 3rd, 2025, which is a couple of months away. I mean, you can very likely expect some of these candidates to start jumping in this race in the next few months, and especially in a year like this, where it's going to be so wide open. And, you know, we expect a lot of candidates, you know, the earlier you get in, the bigger advantage you have to start fundraising and start trying to locking down your supporters. So you put together a pretty comprehensive piece, and I would urge people to head over to Detroit News.com and take a look aside from Mike Duggan, which, again, makes a lot of sense. I think we've always kind of thought that Jocelyn Benson, the secretary of state had had gubernatorial aspirations. We've got the lieutenant governor, Garland Gilchrist, certainly in that mix as well. One name that did jump out to me, which I thought was interesting was the sheriff of Genesee County, Chris Swanson, who came forward and became politically active over this presidential campaign for Kamala Harris and did commercials for her here in the state of Michigan. What do you make of his political aspirations? I mean, I think he's a person that kind of that has a bright political future, really. I mean, a lot of Democrats are excited about him. They're not certain whether he'll be able to, you know, form the momentum and movement that you need to run for governor, but he is definitely a person to watch. I mean, I was fascinated by the fact that he overperformed Kamala Harris in his county by something like 20,000 votes. I mean, more people voted for him down ballot than voted for Harris at the top of the ballot. Usually, as you go down the ballot, you lose voters, because a lot of people just want to vote for president. So, I mean, that's pretty impressive. I mean, he's got this law enforcement background that he could bring to their race. He spoke at the Democratic National Convention. He's been trying to raise his name ID, you know, statewide. He's from a county, not one of the largest counties in the state, Genesee, but a pretty large county. But he's got to find a way to reach people in other places across Michigan. I think largely Democrats have looked at this race for over a year as the contest heavily focused on dug-in and Vincent. I mean, they seem to be on a collision course, and then you have a bunch of other people that are potential ex-factors in this race, like Sheriff Swanson, like Lieutenant Governor Gilchrist. And like somebody, the current transportation secretary for the United States, Pete Buttigieg, people are kind of watching to see what he's going to do. He could really disrupt this race if he got it. Yeah. So, I think Pete Buttigieg is a really, really interesting observation by you, because so he's what? 42 or 43, very young guy and was the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and ascended to a transportation secretary with Joe Biden moved to Michigan, which is an interesting move. His husband is from Michigan, so they live up north. But for somebody so young that is so astute, somebody well-spoken, somebody who I think that maybe those moderate Democrats would really rally behind, it's very interesting when you consider how old he is. And now the gap, right? Because once Joe Biden leaves office, he's out of a job. And I can't imagine Pete Buttigieg is just going to, you know, blend into the background like the Homer Simpson meme. I don't think he's going back into the shrubbery. My guess is he wants to remain a focus here. So it feels like the Pete Buttigieg angle is a really interesting one. Yeah. And I was a person for probably the last year who was kind of dismissive of this idea. I did not think that, you know, this is something that he would likely do. But one of my colleagues in the Capitol Press Court, Joey Capiletti, from the Associated Press got to ask him some questions. In recent weeks and asked him specifically about potentially running for governor, and he did not reject the idea. You know, you would think, you know, he might say, no, that's not something that I would do if he wasn't considering it at all. But to kind of leave the door open to it is significant. And there will be people, you know, in Michigan who instantaneously would say, well, he hasn't lived here this long. You know, I would counter that that's not really how politics works in 2024. Have you surveyed the people in Michigan? I have a feeling that a lot of Democratic primary voters know who Pete Buttigieg is and already have an opinion about him. He is someone that has run for president before and South Bend is not that far away from the Michigan Indiana line there. I think that if you, when you look at the left side of what potentially that could look like, there's a lot of heavy hitters there. On the, on the Republican side of things, I think your left may be a little thin. You mentioned Tudor Dickson who lost to Gretchen Whitmer in 2022. Kevin Ranky lost in his primary battle to Tudor Dickson Perry Johnson as somebody else who you threw out. I thought the two that make the most sense to me is Tom Leonard, the former speaker of the house and Eric Nesbitt, the Senate minority leader currently, those two names seem like something that that would stand out as being probably Republicans' best efforts here in the state. Yeah. And you left off one of the names. I think one of the bigger names here could potentially be John James, the current house member who represents a portion of McComb and, McComb and Oakland. He's one of those people that I think Republican candidates will be watching. Other people that might get in this race won't want to get in this race if John James is in it. Who knows if how serious Representative James is about considering this, but I have heard so many rumbling that this is something that he really wants to do, that is something he is interested in. He wants to hold an executive position. I've been told previously by people close to him. Maybe that changes after he wins another term in the US House and he's now in a majority where he'll probably play a pretty key role. Maybe that's changed. So I think he has the name to watch and Tom Leonard and Eric Nesbit are definitely people that have positioned themselves where they could raise the money needed to run a campaign for governor. They have all these connections with the power brokers of the Republican party. And they could put together some substantial campaigns, I would think. I thought that what happened in this presidential election, I think when you look at around the country, even here in Michigan, Donald Trump doing much better in darn near every county, I thought it was a rejection of where the left's political stances are. And I thought that it was a pushback on some of their policy stances. How does what the Democratic party in their autopsy of this presidential election, how they might evolve over the next couple of years, then it's going to be a midterm election. How does all of that fare and factor into what we could see in two years here? I mean, it's a fantastic question. I think that one of the dynamics that I would talk about is that there's been a change here. It used to be that Republicans did better in gubernatorial elections in Michigan when the turnout was a little bit lower. And it was Democrats in the presidential elections who were finding every way to try to get there. I'm going to throw a phrase that people have probably heard a lot lately. Low propensity voters, people that don't turn out that often to the polls. That used to be Michigan politics. Democrats had benefited from the higher turnout. It seems like now we're in a situation where the higher turnout elections might actually benefit Republicans. And they're the ones that are going to have to figure out how to get the voters that turned out on November 5th or Donald Trump. How do they get those people to turn out in November 2026 when the turnout is going to be lower? And a lot of people, it will not get the media attention to the presidential election. No. But that's the challenge that they face. And if they can find a way to channel that group of voters, they now have data on them. They know who those people are. They know who are the persuadable voters. They have all of that information. If they can get those people to turn out, they have a real chance in the race. Yeah. I think Republicans can steal the line when we vote, we win. It's an interesting perspective. Craig Morgan, always good to talk with you, my friend. Thanks for your time. Hey, thanks for having me. Yep. You've got it. We'll take a break. More next on Jay afternoon. All right. We're talking 2026 in the gubernatorial race. No. No, come on. I mean, we need a little bit of a respite from from campaigns. But it's an interesting look. I mean, the realities are this isn't it's this is the never ending machine. This is the chugging along that that must continue to happen. It's like those freighters on the Great Lakes. It's they don't stop. They don't stop. When they get mail, they got a the mailman just stands at the edge of the dock holding the mail out. The boat sure surely does not come to a stop. And so this is the reality. And I'm curious to know what you think of it because Gretchen Whitmer cannot run again. And and I guess my question is, how does the what I would view to be the reorganization, the re the redo, the reset of the democratic party following Donald Trump's win? How does that impact the gubernatorial race here in Michigan and in a really important spot because for us, it's in the midterms. It's right in the middle where it will be an indictment on Donald Trump one way or the other. People like the way things are going, if they don't, and they'll vote accordingly. And I think conversely on the Republican side of things, which is really, which is really interesting, is is they've got a plan now. They have a way to mobilize these voters. They have a way to reach out to people who might not vote very often, but they have they have a blueprint now to, to energize voters and get them out. Now here's the flip side of that coin. Whoever would run on the Republican side of things ain't Donald Trump. They don't have that same thing that Donald Trump has. So if you want to weigh on it, I'd love to hear from you 800-859-0957-800-8590-WJ. I do want to throw something else into the mix because I thought there was an interesting discussion on CNN and poor Scott Jennings on CNN. The dude has been right a lot of the time and he's completely under siege because he's the only Republican on the panel, nine times out of 10. But he talked about this meeting between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Now I think there are Democrats that would have liked to have seen Joe Biden play a different role, meaning it would have been nice maybe if Joe was a little more stoic or maybe Joe wasn't so accommodating or or maybe Joe put up a little bit of a barrier. It wasn't that way, at least optically. There's the president of the United States sitting next to the former president and president elect, somebody who he has demeaned, somebody who he has talked down to and again all within the world of politics. But because the base and because so many people are so upset, Joe Biden sitting there with a smile on his face, it contradicts a lot of the stuff that he said. It contradicts a lot of the doom and gloom messaging that Democrats had. And it's a very interesting perspective on optics. And I think it's a good one because when in this particular case, I only want to take this case, in the case where Democrats, you know, they go out for a night of trick or treat and they come back and their pillowcase is empty, they got, they had nothing, not one house had their light on. They didn't get one Snickers or a or a Whatchamacala, nothing. And so they come home empty handed, they got no chocolate, every, they couldn't find anything. And so now when you go, okay, well, what do we need to do? How do we change this around? To have Joe Biden sitting there as the head of the Democratic Party and and I mean, essentially playing gracious host and not putting up much of a fuss. The optics aren't good. I think it's an interesting perspective 808590957 that's there for you to go to Vernon in Auburn Hills. What's up, Vern? I disagree. I think the optics were great because if Joe Biden was combative, it wouldn't have served either one of them. So I don't disagree. I don't disagree. I'm just saying that's something that Democrats are it's it's a talking point now because he could have been a little more stern and in fact, it was the opposite. As far as the governor's race, I got a feeling that if if Trump does anything, even if he's just even mediocre, the whoever's running for the Republican will write his co-tales and this the state will flip and we'll have a Republican governor. But the reason I called was mainly because of Mike Duggan stepping down and I think what a lot of citizens in Michigan are concerned about is the Renaissance Center. The Renaissance Center costs $350 million to build in the 70s Ford Motor Company built it. They sold it to their number one competitor later on for 70 million. And now General Motors has it and it's worth zero and I'm dying to know what what's going to happen with it and it's just it's done everything but become a Renaissance and it's sad for not only people in Detroit, but that was like that was the hallmark of the state of Michigan. That was our number one. So do you view that as an indictment on the and Mike Duggan? No, but every time whenever he is interviewed, the topic never comes up. If anything, that should be the number one topic. He did a fabulous job. I don't know if he did or Ford's did a fabulous job at the train station and come to find out the train station. It's supposed to be the EV Center for Ford Motor Company. It's an innovation hub. Yeah. With that and with other tenants, it's less than 50% occupied. The train station, the Renaissance is empty. Look, I made a lot, but how could how could we allow this to happen? Yeah. And I mean, look, I think this is kind of the this could be in Vernon. I appreciate the call. This could be kind of the the evolution of the city, right? And and with the Hudson building going up and GM moving their operations over there. Yeah. I mean, the future of the rents and I don't know and I don't know that anybody really knows yet, at least publicly. I'm sure those conversations are happening behind the scenes. But in terms of of what what we do with that building, I don't know. And I don't know if it comes down and we rebuild in that spot. I don't know if they remodel. I don't know. I don't know. It is an iconic structure. There is no doubt about that. It is unique. It is different. And and there aren't any other buildings like it as far as I know around the country. But what it what happens with it? I don't know. I I'm not I'm not totally sold on that being a major issue in terms of the gubernatorial race. I think for Mike Duggan, what the focus is going to be is very simple. It's look what we have done. Look how far the city has come under my leadership and and look at the relationships that we've built with Lansing, with the business community, with everybody on the ground, with the federal government. I think all of that is really where where Mike Duggan will will shine the brightest. I don't I don't know how much the rent send factors into that, but I appreciate the call Verde. Thank you. Eight hundred eight five nine zero nine five seven. We'll take a break. Come back. Take more of your calls, your texts, and how do you talk to people about politics during the holidays? We'll talk about that as well here on Deli chair. All right. So the holidays are approaching just a couple of weeks here from Thanksgiving and look, I don't understand why people wouldn't be getting together for holidays. It's it's foreign to me, but some people aren't because of the current political climate, because of the presidential election, but there are ways to to actually coexist and talk and and not make what happens hundreds and hundreds of miles away, impact your family life. Professor Elizabeth Dorens Hall is an associate professor of communication at MSU and joint for this afternoon. Professor, it's it's good to have you. What do you what have you found in ways for people to to navigate this potentially difficult time during the holidays? Yeah, I think the first thing I encourage people to do is think about what it is they want to get out of the holidays. Do they want it to be, you know, a time for for healing, a time for conflict, a time to sort of set aside what's happened and really be with the people they love and really focused on, you know, things they have in common outside of the political arena and you reminiscing and shared memories that kind of thing. So thinking about their goal ahead of time rather than just showing up and seeing what happens can be really helpful. All in setting those boundaries, right? Maybe we just say, hey, look, Xnay on the politics, a we're going to have a nice time. We're going to there's a lot of other things that we could argue about outside of the political world. We don't need to go down that road and just setting those boundaries like let's just have a nice dinner with everybody. Definitely. Yeah. And either doing that explicitly or sort of implicitly or with the part of the family that you live with. I'm talking about that a how to time and use those to be helpful. And also when you when you look at we all have, you know, you cast one vote, you think whatever is best for the country, but the realities are as a family, there's a lot of shared experiences. There's a lot of commonalities that you have and it's a good time to lean into those. Absolutely. Yeah. There's I like to think about, you know, the people who are no longer with us at the holidays with something my family focuses on sometimes at Thanksgiving, remembering, you know, their memories and telling stories about them and, you know, baking the things they would have baked or cooking the things they would have cooked. And that can really sort of give this foundation for the holiday that is shared rather than thinking about all the things that we maybe aren't sharing at this moment, kind of focusing on the past and also the future, right? Like, what, what are you planning coming up and, you know, what kinds of things you still like to do together that they have in common? Mm. All really good advice. Professor Elizabeth Thorns Hall at Michigan State. Thank you for your time and your insight. Good stuff. Thank you. Yep. You got it. 800-859-0957. Let's get back to the phones. Let's go to John and Canton. What's up, Johnny? Hey, Chris, nice to talk to you again. You too. For one thing, I think President Biden really enjoys being in the limelight and I think he likes even more when he's in the limelight and people are looking at him in a positive way, which is what he got with the meeting with President Trump. And so I didn't find anything unusual about that at all. Not a fan of President Biden, but that's what I saw there. And then as a Democrat, I'm sorry, I'm not even close to a Democrat, but I could see myself voting for Mike Duggan for Governor, depending on who the Republicans float, because like you said, of a great job he's done in Detroit, and if he could continue that. But John, here's the other thing is where I believe Mike Duggan is different from other Democrats is he hasn't taken a dip in that pool of where the national party is, right? He's been hyper focused on what's going on in Detroit, and I think rightfully so. And I think that there are probably a lot of Republicans, right? A lot of maybe even conservatives that would really give Mike Duggan a vote or really give him an opportunity because of the job he's done in Detroit. I don't think that should be discounted. Yeah, I would agree with you. I think that he would make an excellent governor. I remember thinking when Rick Snyder was put up, you know, I voted for him, but I didn't think he was going to be a great governor and boy, did he ever prove me wrong? Yeah. And so, you know, yeah, no doubt, John, good stuff. My friend. Thank you for the call. Have a good one. You do the same. Let's go to Don and Emily City. What's up, Danny? Hey, how you doing, Chris? I'm good. I'm good by saying before, if I don't talk to you guys again before Thanksgiving, I want you and your staff there to have a good one. You too, Don. We appreciate you, my friend. And I'm going to echo the last caller, you know, I know you've talked to me plenty to know that I'm a Republican through and Mike Duggan has done such a fabulous job with that city. Most cities that are ran by Democrats are ran right into the ground. This man is, he sticks to what he looks at and sticks there. As you said, he don't dip into the pool of the party. He gets the job done and, firstly, I would vote for the man. I really would. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, even go back to 2020, right? Things were in other cities. Really scary, right? A lot of the protests and things that were happening, we didn't see any of that in Detroit. Yeah. And look, a lot of that goes to the police department. Yeah. And James White and James Craig, rather, and all of that, right? But that's all operating under Mike Duggan, and I just, I don't think you should sleep on Mike Duggan. I'm with you, Don. I'm with you. You do the same, Donny. Thank you. Let's go to Greg in London, Ontario quickly. What's up, Greg? Yeah, Chris. Just a few quick points, you know, I just want to congratulate the American people. For a great job on that. And you didn't vote, right? You didn't come across the border and vote. I know you said you were going to vote. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I didn't do that, but apparently I didn't have to, right? Yeah. Pretty clear. But, you know, like I like to congratulate that because we're going to do our job on this side of the border. There's a lot of people who support Trump on this side of the border, believe me, we're going to get rid of the Joker we have here, put Paulia in a conservative, we'll have a conservative Republican get the pipeline and can't open up and get that part of the business going in both countries. But the other point I want to make too is about the Biden and the Trump meeting there yesterday. I couldn't help but think to myself that I was watching it. Joe was really nice. It went off really cordially and great. That's right. I thought to myself, Jesus, it really sucking up the Trump because you're a little bit worried about Trump springing back on Hunter and that whole scene there with a lot of those. You know, I'm thinking, oh, you're kissing up a little bit there. Yeah. You know, Greg, I don't know, man. It's one of the things that I really hope that Donald Trump doesn't do. It's something he talked about. It's going after people. I hope he doesn't. I really do. I hope we put that to bed and we get some stuff done because I think there are things that he said he was going to do that can be really beneficial. But if we're bogged down with other stuff, you know, I think we need to keep focused. Got to take a break. More next. All right. Three o'clock hour. It is good to have you. 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That's according to global tetradon, the onions parent company. The onion has not said how much they paid for info wars in its assets, which include a production studio, a diet supplement business. And they said in a story that they posted on their website that they did pay less than a trillion dollars to purchase this. I gotta be honest with you, I never, ever would have thought that the onion was ever going to buy info wars. That was not on my bingo card, but it feels apropos, doesn't it? It feels right. It feels good. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. But Alex Jones has a, he's got something on X, I think the Alex Joe, I don't know, it does it. He's not on my radar, but, but the onion has purchased info wars, which is just wild. Ford is set to pay a big penalty for moving too slowly on a recall and to properly provide accurate recall information, $165 million fine by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for this inability or lack of proper information in this recall involving faulty rear-view mirrors. And this is, according to the NHTSA, the NHTSA, it's the second largest penalty in '54. Years, which is something. I am definitely in this world now, like, of course, we try to curb screen time for the kids, but like Jake's in first grade now, and it's really difficult to curb a lot of that when that's what kids are doing in mass. How about this? The Entertainment Software Association says 76% of kids this year are asking for video games for Christmas. 76% of kids are asking for video games, ages 10 to 17. Video games are at the top of kids wish list for Christmas. Does that surprise you, Brian? No, I'm shipping a couple of video games. Are you? Yes. Yes. Danielle, does that shock you? You're a gamer. No. It doesn't shock you. No. All right. Is that, would you have said that number's too low? What was the number again? 76%. No. Girls aren't as into it, so. Okay. That's fair. I would say 70% is about right. Behind video games, that's the number one thing. Money. Yep. Two. Like, or gift cards, whatever. And then clothes, which is weird, that feels like that wouldn't be high on a 10-year-old wish list. That's the girls. Yes. I was thinking that Danielle. That's what the girls say. Even 10, though? Yeah. When I was when you were 10? Yeah. When I was a 10-year-old, limited to was like my place. I will tell you. I mean, now that I've gotten older, I appreciate the gift of socks a lot more. I never thought I'd be in that place. What is strange? It's a sad place to be in. Here's the thing, is as now a parent, like I don't buy anything for myself. Everything I get is for the kids. So it's like, boy, I need some socks. Finally, a new pair that doesn't have a hole in it. Yeah. Oh, it's like a holiday in itself. Oh, yeah. After clothes and accessories, it's electronics, like smart watches and phones and tablets and stuff like that. It's just interesting. Last year, Jake was into the Nintendo Switch. So Santa got him into a Nintendo Switch last year, which is fun. But this year he wants, so like, I don't play a lot of games. I don't know. I barely play games at all, except now with him. I have a PlayStation 4, which is now old technology. And Jake wants these games for PlayStation now that are only available on PlayStation 5. Oh. Uh-oh. And I'm like, he doesn't get it. I'm like, we have a PlayStation, there is a PlayStation 5, it's another thing. But the game that you want, I can't get on this. And he's like, well, then let's get a PlayStation 5 and I'm like, oh, let's just go get a PlayStation 5. Sure. Out of their minds. Is that what they're asking for? A PlayStation 5? Uh-oh. We have not exclusively asked for a PlayStation 5. We are also now asking for a puppy for more. We're asking for a puppy. No PlayStation 5. It's easier. No doubt. No doubt. No doubt. Probably cheaper too at the end of the day. Ultimately. I do. You could probably buy a nice desktop and still get those games for PS5, but I'm a desktop and then get them a controller. Yeah, but how much is a good desktop? I think 500 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. So I might as well just get the PlayStation. I've got a TV already. Yeah. I'm going to be able to get more games on the desktop off of Steam. Like any game. I don't know what anything you just said. Oh boy. We're thinking the same thing. It's like, Danielle suddenly speaking. We lost the entire audience. All right. I'll talk about it later. All right. Fair enough. Also an important milestone in a more serious conversation has been reached in the ongoing legal bagel in the aftermath of the Oxford school shooting WJR senior news analyst Marie Osborne reports this ruling involves a settlement for those victims. Good afternoon, Marie. Yes, Chris. This is an important ruling involving the Oxford school shooting and it clears the way for the district to offer $5 million per bodily injury claim to victims of the 2021 mass attack. A judge has ruled that each bullet fired by the Oxford high school shooter that caused an injury is its own occurrence under Oxford community schools insurance policy. The insurance company had argued its liability for the entire attack should be capped at 5 million. But under this ruling by the Oakland County Circuit Judge Jacob Cunningham, the district would have 5 million to pay each of the 11 victims shot by the gunman on November 30th, 2021 or an estimated 55 million. That number could even go higher as much as 150 million according to one estimate if the judges ruling applies to victims who were shot more than once or those fired at but not physically struck. They could include those people. The mass shooting killed four students wounded six other students and another teacher. One last thing, Chris, the one legal expert in the insurance laws said he expects the ruling to be appealed mainly because the potential liability of up to $150 million. Well it would stray in the financial solvency of the nonprofit risk sharing insurance pool that covers Michigan public schools. Well, certainly potentially a little bit of relief for these families, but they'll never be made whole again. Certainly not. Not with the loss of their children and the mental aspects that come with that, the baggage tough. Marie, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are set to lead Doge. What does that actually look like? Talk about an excellent J.R. afternoon. So Donald Trump has said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead his administration's efforts towards slashing, waste slashing, the bloat of the budget via the Department of Government Efficiency, Doge. What does that actually look like in a practical sense? Let's talk to Dr. Joe Postel, the associate professor of politics at Hillsdale College. Doc, it's great to have you. Hey, Chris. Thanks for having me on the program. So explain to me what this is because as I understand it, they're not technically government employees, but they're going to have a front row seat to what the government actually spends our money on. So when they go through with that red pen and start slashing things or finding those redundancies, what does this actually look like in a practical sense? Yeah. Right now, to some extent, if anybody's guess because we're still so early in the transition phase and obviously we'll find out more about this when we see the new administration early next year, but what it kind of looks like at this point is kind of an advisory committee. So it's not going to be a new department like the Department of Education or the Department of Commerce. It's really going to be something like an advisory committee that works out of the White House that might be funded out of the White House. There's something called the executive office of the president where a lot of these White House officials are housed in the Eisenhower building right next to the West Wing. So it could be out of there. It might even be like a non-governmental advisory committee. We're not quite sure yet what it's going to look like. And even the scope of its review is actually still a little bit open to interpretation. So when you hear, say, Elon talk about this, he talks about cutting $2 trillion out of the federal budget. He seems to really be wanting to focus on cutting federal spending, whereas if you listen to Vivek, Rama Swami talk about it, the other sort of the co-chair of this proposed Department of Governmental Efficiency, he really wants to take on the administrative state. He thinks that we have too much regulation. It's sort of strangling the economy. And one of the best things we can do is actually cut back on regulation. So his view of waste, fraud, and abuse really is more about regulation than it is about spending. So I think they each have a different perspective on this problem. And I think they're really going to take a very big look comprehensively at the whole government and try to see where they can help. So when Donald Trump announced this, he said that Elon and Vivek will, quote, "dismantle government bureaucracy/excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructural federal agencies." He also talked about this becoming potentially the Manhattan Project of our time. And we know the gravity of that situation. Is this a task that can be done in a year, two years, four years? I mean, it seems like this is such a herculean effort. I understand. And quite frankly, I applaud the idea of looking at this and looking at where the redundancies are, where the wasteful spending is, or where we can cut regulations. But this doesn't seem like this is a short term fix to a much bigger issue. Right. Yeah. You know, the problem has been created over decades. So it's not going to be eliminated in 18 months. And this doge department is actually got an expiration date on it. They're obviously very symbolic date. They're going to end on July 4th, 2026, so the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. So they've really got a short runway here to figure out all of the things that need to be fixed. And I really think this is kind of the first stage and what should be a much longer-term project that trying to make government more streamlines, trying to make government more efficient in terms of doing the things that actually contribute to the flourishing of the American people. So I don't think this can be done in a short period of time. Moreover, it really can't be done out of the White House. I mean, this is the biggest thing that hopefully they understand, is that you're going to need Congress to do a lot of the things that they're going to recommend. If you want to streamline agencies and restructure federal authority, cut back and dismantle the regulatory state, that's really going to require Congress to step in and pass legislation following up on the recommendations of this department. And if Donald Trump has the majority of the House and the majority of the Senate, you never know what happens in a midterm, so certainly these next two years will be really interesting. Do you believe, I mean, we haven't seen anything like this before, right? And when we haven't seen somebody kind of analytical like Elon Musk, where he is very fact-driven, he is very numbers-driven, there isn't a lot of gray area. He lives in that black and white and obviously we know about Vivek and kind of the stances that he takes. But we haven't seen something like this before, and if this is as big of an issue as I think it is and as big of an undertaking as we agree it might be, is this something that you think would be sustainable long-term, that even if a Democrat were to win the White House that this is something that they would continue to look into? That last part of that question, whether any Democrat, if they want a presidential election, would follow up with these efforts, I would be skeptical that that would happen. But I do think the bigger question here about whether this has really ever been done before, I think you're right, nothing on this scale. So there was something that the Reagan administration did during the latter, the second term of the Reagan administration in the '80s called the Grace Commission. They had a few thousand recommendations for how to cut waste, fraud and abuse, how to get rid of extra regulations that weren't necessary, how to have a better approach to federal procurement in the defense industry. So this sort of thing has been tried before, but it was always limited to waste, it was always limited to efficiency. What's really going on here is something much bolder. They really want to structure the entire modern state. They want to really go back to first principles. So I think what's different about this approach versus some earlier approaches is there's a new understanding that this administrative state really represents a threat to the constitutional system and the basic principles on which America was founded. And I think that's part of a longer-term effort that is sustainable. You know, 20 years ago, nobody talked about the administrative state as a problem. And today, this is now in the highest realms of power where people are talking about this as a problem. So I think this is a sustainable effort. It's not obviously going to be done in one presidency, but more of this momentum going forward will help it to be sustainable. I think the other part too, and if we can get into the politics of this a little bit, you know, I think there was a lot of momentum behind the fake filling JD Vansacy in the state of Ohio. And Donald Trump has picked a lot of sitting representatives in the House, in the Senate, to fill administrative seats. And when you're dealing in the margins that they are, that can be really impactful. And if you're pulling, you know, for example, Elise Stefanik out of the state of New York, who does somebody like Kathy Hochl put in that spot, right? Maybe not somebody quite as bullish as Elise Stefanik. How does all of that then play into the type of majorities or the type of lawmakers that we'll see in Washington over the next coming days, really? Yeah, I think it creates a huge potential headache for the administration, because, you know, you mentioned some members of the House of Representatives, obviously Matt Gates. Matt Gates is not one, sure. And then Lee Zeldin, who's a great member of the House of Representatives, who's now been tasked to run EPA. So, you know, we don't even know how large the majority will be for the Republican Party. They're still counting votes in California, which is kind of astonishing, but it looks like it's going to be, you know, five or six seat majority in the House of Representatives. But if we've already counted three or four people who are being taken from the House of Representatives, that makes the majority in the House really precarious. And I think that's going to be a concern, if you ever need to pass legislation to carry out some of these proposals from this department of governmental efficiency, you might actually run into trouble because you aren't going to have the votes in the House. And, you know, the Senate, of course, Rubio and Vance are going to be leaving the Senate. So that's going to be a priority in the first years, try to make sure that they're going to build. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting stuff. Dr. Joe Postel at Hillsdale College. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you. Great to be with you. All right. We'll get you calls next eight hundred eight five nine zero nine five seven eight hundred eight five nine zero nine five seven eight hundred eight five nine zero WJR. Look, I I like the idea of a group that is looking into the government and how we spend money and right, I can appreciate all that. This just feels like a Herculean task. It feels like this cannot be done in two years in four years. It just the mess that we've created, meaning I'm not even talking about regulation. I'm just talking about the redundancies in our budget, the redundancies and spending, how we spend our money. This was not created overnight, this wasn't created in a administration. This wasn't created over the course of 10 years. This is decades, decades of in most cases, just a straight up misuse of our money, a straight up misuse of of how we spend our money, not in all cases, of course, not in all cases. But I appreciate the fact that this is an idea, that this is something that we can look into. It just feels like it's a it's a huge task. I want to get your thoughts eight hundred eight five nine zero nine five seven. Let's go out to River Rouge catch up with William. What's up, Will? Hey, Chris. How you doing today, buddy? I am good. My friend. You got it. Yeah, I just want to say this, the reason that they were so opposed to Donald Trump coming to Washington, DC, to become the president was because they were afraid Donald Trump's going to expose them any, any of them. You mean what? Find out where the bodies are buried. What do you mean? Yeah. Well, like, all right, William, I don't know if we've lost our connection, but we've we've lost our connection. Let's go out to Rod and Plymouth. What's up, Rod? Okay. I think this is just going to be simple genius considering much from and swami and don't forget AI. What AI is going to do is going to help them develop a self adjusting economic policy of efficiency, which is going to promote the people's best interest, which is going to make it bipartisan and it's going to happen in six months because it's simple. It's just that we're not looking at this in a way. It's so overwhelming to us as we see it. We simplify everything AI is going to make a platform that no matter what happens the next day, there's going to be 10 solutions to that problem. Yeah, it might be. Yeah. And that's an interesting way of looking at it, utilizing technology to go through with a fine tooth comb. I could see that as a real possibility. I guess the other interesting part that Dr. Joe Postell from Hillsdale College mentioned to me a moment ago, and if you miss that interview, wjr.com, but, but there is going to need to be congressional action here that whatever they find, Congress is going to have to act on it. And when you consider the, the majorities that Republicans are going to enjoy, particularly in the house, the Senate will be mostly set. There's not a lot of ambiguity there. But with, with what we're seeing in the house, raise your thing once again. And as Donald Trump picks from the pool of existing lawmakers into administrative roles, into department roles in his administration, it does create a whole set of circumstances that, that are going to be complicated, I believe. And again, depending on which state you're talking about, which state is going to have to fill these vacancies, whether in the house or the Senate, I think that has to be taken into account here when you consider what Elon Musk and the Vivek Rama Swami may find and, and, and what Congress decides to do with that information then. It's a good point, Rod. Thank you. Let's go to Denny and Marblehead. What's up, Denny? Hey, Denny, Chris. Love the show. Thanks, bud. Um, okay, 1984 I graduated turned 18. My grandfather took me at me, registered as a Democrat. He goes, you're going to register Democrats, okay. Find out for the draft. Who'd I vote for in 84? Tell me. Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan. Did pops. Know about that? He does not. Okay. Denny, is he still with us? He is not. Okay. All right. That would have been a fun story to tell him. Yeah. Would have. But your previous guest brought up Ronald Reagan looking into this same stuff 40 years ago. Yeah. That's how long. And if not longer, yeah, probably longer in efficiency has been going on. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I, I, I really do appreciate the idea. It just feels like, you know, to have this, this, this date set that they'll be done. I mean, you're looking at July 4th, 2026, which is the 250th anniversary of the declaration direct declaration of independence. It just doesn't feel like a ton of time. No, it is not a ton of time to correct all this stuff. You're correct. Yeah. Uh, Denny, good stuff. Appreciate you, my friend. I'm in Ann Arbor. What's up, Tommy? How long do I take Elon Musk to get Twitter in line about a day or two hours? He, he got that taken care of. And one other thing, I hope if any Senator Republican votes against Matt Gates, I hope Trump primaries them. So you like the Gates appointment? I do. That's what you need in there. You know, at least he isn't lying, like Mary, Mary, Lucas did or sit there and, and being in a congressional hearings that they all know the borders, polls and thousands of people are running across the border, knocking down the, the, the, our government was taking down what the, the state of Texas was putting up for barricades, barbed wire and stuff. Our government was down there, taking stuff down that the state of Texas put up to, to block it. So Mary over, Mary, Lucas, whatever his name was, he was a flat liar. He lied in Congress. And how about that attorney general? They had it. You know, he weaponized the, the office. So no, Matt Gates all the way. That's an excellent pick. All right, Tom. Appreciate the call. Let's go back to William and River Rouge. We, we had a tough connection there. Uh, William, I got you back. Hey, Chris, glad I got back with you, man. I hope you can, we got a better connection. I, I hear you loud and clear. Okay. I, I was saying, you remember when Donald Trump first decided to run for president, he was going to run as a Democrat way back when then back in 16. Okay. Like 15, but then he's decided to run as a Republican. And I think that that pissed the Democrats off that they knew that Donald Trump was going to expose them and even dirty politicians that are, are even running off the top and taking money that they shouldn't be taking. Well, yeah. That was a big part of his platform, right? Drain the swamp. Yeah. That's why the Democrats pushed to make, to get him out of there because they were afraid he, they were going to get exposed and they should go to jail if they were doing wrong. Well, and Trump, and Trump exposed them. I mean, and that's, and that's exactly why they fought him tooth and nail because they knew eventually Trump was going to get them. Well, sure. I mean, Donald Trump has made no bones about it that, that when before he ran for office, before he decided to run for president, I mean, going back many, many years, I mean, he was, he as a businessman with a business mentality, he was, he was giving money to all different politicians. He gave money to the, the Clintons, he, he, he wrote Kamala Harris a check, right? It was whatever was in his best interest to play both sides. And when he came to the forefront, it was like, and William, I appreciate the call, it's, it was very much like I'm, I'm, I see what you guys are doing and I'm coming after you. Let's go to Bob and East Lansing quickly. What's up, Bob? Hey, Chris. Just want to talk about the gates of point at the AG. Yeah. Trump supported here initially. I cringed. Yeah. And then I did a little reading and thought about it and I remember how Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr allowed the lawfare to attack Trump. So I think it's smart by Trump. He's going to get protected. Well, wait, how did Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr allow that? Yeah. Well, they weren't aggressive enough to let that process take hold with lawsuits and the things that they did to inhibit his policies. So you think Matt Gates is the, is the antidote to that? I think he's loyal and I think you will not see the resistance that you did under Barr and Sessions. Okay. Fair enough. Bob. I appreciate the call. We'll take a break. Come back for more here on Jay afternoon. Steve Courtney comes into the studio. He's got his headband on hitting the bag. Here we go. A little sweat stain down the middle of the shirt. You ready for this fight tomorrow night, Tyson V fury. It's very intriguing. Is it not? It is. For many reasons. It feels like a little bit of a dog and pony show, but well, let's get into it. Yeah. Here we go. This chat, by the way, Chris, brought to you by the performance remodeling sweepstakes. Performance remodeling selected Cameron Zakaria as the winner of their first annual $100,000 window of opportunity sweepstakes. So I give Cameron a round of applause. Get away. Cam. Everything says, let's do it again. Log into windowsrooping siding.com to enter to win the next sweepstakes from performance remodeling. All right. Not all that long ago. Well, maybe so. Mike Tyson was considered the baddest man in the world for all the right reasons. I'd take him over John Wick. Would you know? Yeah. We don't have time to get into that debate, friend. But it's been two decades since his last professional boxing match. Well, all that changed is, ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow night, eight o'clock, AT&T stadium. He's going to be going against the YouTuber turn prize fighter, Jake Paul, some quotes. Like only Mike Tyson can bring him. I'm bringing the devil himself to the ring. Now here's the deal. He has begun somewhat of a friendship with Paul, but he warns his opponent to not mistake his kindness for weakness. There are no feelings attached. My own mother should be very careful if she has to get in the ring with me when it's over. It's over. But while the process is going on, my intention is to hurt him. I hope he has the same intentions or he's in trouble. Now the age difference is rather significant. Mike Tyson, currently 58 years of age, the age difference 31 years. Now Jake Paul has predicted 20 million people will tune in. This is going to be live streamed on Netflix, by the way. Don't have to go far to set records. Floyd Mayweather and many pack you out to 4.6 million viewers back in 2015. Tyson, as a pro, 56 and 2 with 44 KOs. He has not fought a professional bout since he lost a hoo. Kevin McBride, that in 2005, although he did fight Roy Jones Jr. in an exhibition in 2020. Tyson suffered an inflamed ulcer on a flight back in May, prompting this bout to be postponed from July 20th to tomorrow night. Now there are some rules here. To make this bout a little bit more unique, it is still officially, by the way, sanctioned heavyweight fight that will count on both fighters records. There will be eight instead of 10 rounds, which is typical for non-title fights. Two minute rounds, rather than three minute rounds, that are standard in boxing. Also, both fighters will wear bigger 14-ounce gloves, rather than the 10-ounce gloves, that are standard for heavyweights in order, obviously. To reduce the impact of punches. They're afraid for Jake Paul's life. There are so many people, let's just put our cards on the table. There are a lot of folks that are kind of up in arms, because they are fearing for Mike Tyson. Now, these 58 years of age, yada, yada, yada, yada. Many consider boxing, clearly, to be a young man's game. They are being paid very well for their efforts. Jake Paul estimated to bring in 40 million. Mike Tyson, half of that at 20 million, which is kind of surprising. He's the bigger name. Is he not? He is. Let me give you my favorite Mike Tyson quote ever, okay? This is in 2000, he knocked out loose every recent 38 seconds, okay? Here's what Tyson said before he walked away. "I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, then most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one that can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror. No, I'm Alexander. There's no Alexander. I'm the best ever. There's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart, I want to eat his children, praise be to Allah." And then walks away. Now I only bring that up, first of all, it's my favorite quote in any sport ever, the dude was just on a roll. But here's where Mike Tyson changes. Because Mike Tyson on his podcast, smoking pot, high, just live in life. I think he's in that for a business kind of thing. He is. Yeah. He is. He's the dude in between those turnbuckles. You put those dude in that in that ropes. And I'm sorry. There is a different mindset. There is a change. There is a chemical change in Mike Tyson, and I don't care that he's 60 years old. I don't care that he's fit with or 58. Doesn't matter to me. Dude still chisel. I'll tell you that. I want him to flat like Jake Paul. Well, not only did he promise to knock out his opponent, but Tyson also said that the ferocity he will bring to the ring will make him unrecognizable to his younger children, specifically his 16 year old daughter, Milan. The quote here, she saw me on television fight with Roy Jones in 2020, but she has never seen anything of this magnitude in her life. My kids don't really think of me as the baddest man on the planet. They look at me as dad and tell me, sit your old ass down. But on November 15th, they will have a different opinion of me. They won't talk back. That's for sure. Where are you at on this? KB. They will clean their rooms. They will clean their rooms with too many rounds and 14 ounce gloves, but Tyson still can punch and take part of it's an insult that he gets paid as much money and is not a real fighter. I agree. I agree. So look, the only boxer he has ever squared off against was Tyson Fury. Okay. Well, I'm trying 140 pounds. Yeah. Yeah. But the only actual fight that he's ever fought was with Tyson Fury and he lost. Yeah. Okay. He lost. Yeah. Now, who else is he boxed? Old washed up athletes, football players, basketball players, MMA players, not the same dude, but I'm just saying the same Tyson may not have the speed that he had. He may not have the, you know, endurance, but he probably can steal punch. And I'm telling you right now, he's nuts. You get in there with him. He's not. He's just an animal. You'll get that flashback going and you know, telling what's going on. So he's got to punch his chance, but even if he doesn't win, do you think it's a dog and pony show? And I think Jake Paul thinks that, but we talking Mike Tyson here, when he goes in that ring, all that stuff you guys talking about beforehand is out the window. If you think it's going to be what we're going to take, that's out the window. That's out the window. That's out the window. Yeah. During his heyday, Mike Tyson, the most feared boxer I've ever seen. Yeah. And back in the day, I was a huge boxing fan. The dude can box everything he does in the ring is measured. Yes. And if Jake Paul doesn't understand that, yes, he will, yes, he will. He will find out. He will. What do we got coming up? We're going to talk to Bill Schutte, Jr. about the Michigan House. We're going to talk to, we're going to talk about Detroit residents now being allowed to keep chicken ducks and bees. We're going to have James State on. Oh, cool. Yeah. All right. We've got a bunch of APers downtown. Yeah. All right, very good. All right, Mitch out in the crew coming up. See you tomorrow.