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Being Offensive -Ep 261 The Fumblerooski Podcast
And this week's edition of, or in this Tuesday edition of the Fumbleski podcast, we'll be going through our favorite offensive line prospects, and we'll do a nice little deep dive into the wide receiver prospects, a very, very deep class of wide receiver prospects. That is, you are listening to the Fumbleski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a loose, loose scenario for both sides. You're listening to the Fumbleski podcast powered by, or by power, AD18 radio and secret weapon consulting. I'm Chris Kostich alongside me for this Tuesday edition. CJ Medeiros and Adam Wright, thank you for joining in. Hope no one's blind from the eclipse on Monday and whatnot. Um, did you guys, are you guys okay? How are you guys' eyes? I can't see. CJ, you're the one with glasses. I'm more afraid of for you. Adam beat me to it, and oh, believe me, you're forgiven, but that's whatever. So we got a short list for this one. We're now 17 days away from the NFL draft, and today we're going to be going through some more of the offensive side Friday. We went through the defensive side with the front seven and the defensive backs. Today we're going to be looking at offensive line prospects and wide receiver prospects. And to start, we'll go through the offensive line prospects. And obviously not as deep of a class as the wide receiver prospects. You're not going to see many of these guys in the top 15, but there's still going to be guys that will make it into the first round and trickle more into the second round. And it's really just a who's who of who you really want to have. And I'll just leave it up to you guys who are your favorite offensive line prospects, or give me, give me two each, give me two each to build off of, and then we'll expand on that. How about that? CJ, how about you go first, Mr. giraffe guy himself? Thank you. You're very generous. Now, for me, it would be easy to just take the copouts and Joe all and Olu Fashano, because we already know that those two are the top dogs. But what if we go a little deeper because, in my opinion, the third best offensive tackle is, I mean, I know everyone's hyping up to Luis Fuaga and Troy Fattano as of late, but no, let's not forget about the man from Alabama himself, JC Latham. This man is six, six, 342 pounds, right 11 inch hands, 35 and wait, 35 to eight inch arm length, just an absolute physical specimen who runs off 48 540. This man is an absolute mauler of a blindside blocker. He can play left or right. This guy, he's darn near everything you'd want, and he would be the best tackle in the draft, literally, if not for somebody like, you know, for somebody like Fashano or Alts, because we all know like who's the best ones there. So the thing is, other than just like his stature alone, for a guy of that size, right, six, six, three, 40, basically, we'll call it, he's quick, and I don't mean fast like his 40 time suggests, I mean, he's quick. He's got fast feet with his hands, just especially like in the past, in the run, he might need a little bit of tightening up, but just past blocking by itself. This man can definitely put even seasoned Edge Russia's on their butt. And the only real issue that I have is that, you know, like I said, you know how he's like a big mauler tackle? Well, he has the big mauler that died, which is flags in the 2022, 23 season. This was like granted like a year ago, but still he, uh, he had 12 of them. They had 12 flags and that's granted he had fewer last season, but he's a little eager, you know, to, you know, to go out there and hit the D line, but you know, that's workable. That's workable. And then there's another one who in my eyes is one of the most intriguing offensive tackles. And this guy, I don't even know why people overlook him. It's Tyler Gaiton from Oklahoma, 6, 8, 322 with a 34.5 inch vertical, like in a 5.240. This guy, he's just another one that, uh, I just from a physical standpoint, as we see offensive lineman, larger in size, but quicker. This is a guy that I think is the spinning image of that beyond just frame. This guy is a true actual athlete. It's one thing. If your offensive lineman is just big, but this guy is athletic, like actually athletic. He's got long arms. He can definitely side. He has precisely really disciplined pass protection. And as the league gravitates more towards a pass first offense, these blind side quarterback blockers like these past blockers, that's what you want. And the issue, right, is that, uh, this issue, by the way, at least is comfortable. He plays too tall. Does that make sense? He plays. Yeah. No, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. No. He plays like, you know, he plays too tall. It's kind of like the, uh, issue there and, uh, straight facts when your, uh, when your voice was cutting in and out and you sounded like, I don't even know what you sounded like. We want to apologize to everyone if we're hurting your ears. We had some connect, uh, connection problems in last episode as well. And seems we're still having connection issues today. Yeah. Those connections. Those connection issues were the most sense that CJ has made on this show. Yeah. Well, at least it's still a better argument than anything. Adam stats are for losers. Right has put out. So either way, but all story short, I mean, I'm sorry, short, basically what I'm saying is the only real issue I haven't gotten is that he plays too tall and he lets smaller defenders like get under the pads, but that's coachable. Adam, you have anything you want to add to, uh, the guys that CJ has laid out for us. Yeah, I think I like, um, Graham Barton. I think this is a guy who has, he's the most NFL ready out of the late first round tackles who are here. Um, he's projected to go in the middle in the, uh, towards the end of the first round. Um, he's a guy with some good upper body strength. Um, he has good hands. And this is a guy who has the ability, um, to make an early impact on any team that needs a starting tackle. Um, and we're going to end up going over mostly tackles because that's the biggest need on most offensive lines. Tackle is a very, very hard position to find. And if you're going to take a guard or a center, fine. Maybe do it in the, maybe do it on day two or three of the draft. Creed Humphrey came in the second round, and he's one of the best. Sure. Creed Humphrey came in the second one in the second round and check yourself. Yeah. Um, another one I like is our Marius Mims. Um, the biggest downside for this guy is that he has not gotten a lot of time to play. Reason for that is injuries, but other than that, when he's on the field, he, he makes a strong impact and he has unbelievable athleticism. So I think this is a guy who, um, if he could just stay healthy, can be one of the better tackles to come out of this draft. Um, I think it's a lot of, it's a lot of upside there and he's another guy who's projected to go in the later first round, maybe even day two, but I think our Marius Mims is the type of player, um, who teams should take a flyer on in the first round. Who need tackle help? So that, all that being said, uh, who of these linemen, and I'm going to throw a couple of different things out here, right? So who is the most underrated and overrated or obviously separate, right? And who do we think is probably going to slip the most? It could be a second rounder that hell we could see get drafted into the fourth round or a first rounder that slips into day two. Who do we think is the most, it's just, I'm not even going to try to say the word, my brains fried right now, um, who is the most prone to slipping the most in this draft? I think JC Latham, I think he's the type of player who looks like he could easily, he's the type of player in this draft who he could go top 15, but he could also go in day two of the draft. It's really, it, he's such a wild card, but CJ said all of the ups and downs for this guy. This guy has some high upside, um, and I think he's also a player who has some, carries some risk with the penalty issues. What I say is that, um, tackle position, the tackle position is very hard to find. For that reason, I'm not saying that it's good that a tackle is heavily penalized, but I would take a, I would take a tackle who is penalized a lot, but keeps the quarterback on his feet than one who is not penalized a lot, but lets the quarterback through all the time. I think keeping your quarterback healthy is much more important than a 15 yard penalty or it would be 10 obviously. Um, yeah, I think, I think JC Latham is the one who's, um, you could see him going in a lot of different spots in the straddle CJ, what say you as far as I go, I was really hoping Adam wouldn't mention a Marius Mims because that would be like one that I think could slip. And I'm not saying that just because he said it, I'm not, but I mean, there, I mean, just look at some of the new mock drafts that have come out lately. This guy has actually just been sometimes not even mocked in the first round. And we obviously know that the premier tackles in this draft, like I said, are all fashanu, but once you get with like guys like Latham, Bawaga, Mims, Fatano, it's literally anybody's guess. Heck, some people cook eyes like Tyler, Guyton and even Jordan Morgan over it. So for counting the same reasons, Adam said, I don't feel like Mims just due to like his overall lack of playing time due to the injury bug would probably be, uh, the most likely to slip. Cause I mean, at least Latham has like, I would say like a 90% chance going the first round. Mims, I don't think quite has that. Before we move on, give me an underrated and give me an overrated offensive line prospect. You want me to go first? I don't care who goes first. You can go first. CJ. Yeah. So somebody that I think is really underrated is Oregon's Jackson Powers Johnson. He is the best interior offensive line prospect in this draft. He really is and I know that's not really as, uh, sexy as the offensive tackle, but this guy, he can play guard, he can play center and he's going to kick out as he goes. As for the most overrated prospect, it has to be Tylee's Fuaga out of Oregon state. Like physically, that is kind of tackle you would be looking for, but oh my God. This guy is just not a fluid mover and everything he does from the start of the play to the end of the play, there's just so much wasted emotion. I know this can be coached out of him, but he's very raw and not to mention he didn't exactly play against the most stellar competition in the Pac-12. I would say Tyler Gatton is definitely the most underrated. Um, I mean, this is definitely a guy who, um, he has all the tools to be a really good tackle, but he's still been overlooked. So I think this is the type of player that you want to look at who will slip in draft boards, who I think a lot of teams, um, they're going to find a diamond in the roughing and I say diamond in the rough, he could go day two, but I mean, that's like, there's six, there's seven rounds in the draft, um, overrated, that's, I would say, a tough one. I would say really tough to really pick when it comes to especially drafting, you know, and especially O line, especially O line, cause a lot of O line prospects can, you can just flip a coin and that'll be how their career pans out. Basically, and a lot of the tackles who are taken early in the first round, you could get penny stool, but you could also get the other guy for the giants, whose name is escaping it right now, you could get Neil. So it's, uh, dare we say for Sean, who or Joe alt becomes a bust. There's a really strong chance at least one of them does, but I don't, it's, I mean, do we bet on that? Because it's, it's a coin flip on whether or not those guys actually pan out. Um, that being said, I will say Fuwega. Um, I think he's being very much overdrafted in every single mock draft. Um, he gets a little bit aggressive. Um, his balance isn't great and, uh, he needs more lower body strength. I think, uh, the thing with offensive line or just anywhere on the line, you have to go from low to high and the power goes comes from your legs. So to not be able to execute there, um, that's going to be very important. And if you're facing some of the better edge rushes in the game, that sex, you sets you up for failure. And, uh, yeah, I think he is going to be overdrafted. I like it. Anything else that we would like to add before we move on to the next segment? No, not really. We're cool. So we'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll go through the wide receiver prospects problem. As mentioned, probably one of the deepest classes that we've seen in a while and a lot of talent in this class to say the least, especially top 10. You could even say top 20. It's, it's real toss up of what the order is going to be at this point, but we'll go over that next. You're listening to the Volburyski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. We can lose loose scenario for both sides. You're listening to the Volburyski podcast by power 88 Dean, power 88 Dean radio and secret weapon consulting, Chris Kostich, Adam Wright, C.J. Mederos. We move on to our second and final subject of the evening wide receiver prospects. Now the top three is, as we know, Marvin Harrison, Malik neighbors and Romo Dunsey and Marvin Harrison is the clear cut number one receiver in this class, and Malik neighbors and Romo Dunsey neighbors is two on basically everyone's and Odunsey's three, but I feel like you could definitely flip flop those a little bit. And after that, most of these receivers aren't really projected to get drafted until late first round and second round picks. So with that being said, we'll kind of go with the same thing that we did with the offensive line prospects. Give me two that you like, not named Marvin Harrison and Robodunsey and Malik neighbors, and we'll go from there. Adam, do you want to go first this time? Yeah, C.J. Yeah, Adam, go first. Yes, that's what I asked you. Okay. I'm going, Brian Thomas Jr. I think this is a player that he's kind of stuck in Malik neighbors' shadow. And the reason I believe that he is one of the better wide receivers outside of those top three is because I think you can do a lot with him. He's also, he's a vertical threat and he can also go underneath. He also, you know, he's a very tall player and he has speed. So he has the edge over a lot of corners in this league and he can also beat them out. He has a lot of quickness underneath. He's good with intermediate routes. And I think this is a player who, I think he going, coming out of LSU, I really trust those prospects coming out of that school. They always seem to pan out and this guy has all the tools to do it. He may be stuck in the shadow of Malik neighbors, but I think this guy's going to hold his own wherever he goes. So, right, and then we're going with another player, okay. Out of all of them, I think the problem is outside of all of those, outside of Brian Thomas is not really anybody who I trust very much. I guess I would go Xavier Worthy. He is a player who has some upside. He has great speed as he's shown in the combine. I don't believe he's going to get overdrafted just from that speed, but he's a day two pick in my eyes who has some good speed and he can play on the outside. So it's funny you say that Adam because that wasn't a receiver I was going to bring up as well and a guy that I was actually going to say could potentially even be a first round pick just based off the speed alone and looking at the highlights too from college, he's burning guys out there, just speed alone, never mind route running. If you got a guy that's really fast, I mean, the only problem really is the size that he has 511, 165, but you know, that's what a lot of people said about Devonta Smith and he's doing just fine, obviously. So size in this case does not really matter, pause, but in terms of what this kid can do, I think that we that this is a receiver that is who's projected to be a day two pick, we could easily see be a day one pick. Yeah, I'm only worried about his hands. Yeah. He has some issues about he has some issues with drops, but his footwork, his speed, all of that I really like. So I think this guy could be a really good player, but those drops, he's got to work on those hands. CJ, what say you? No, I think you make some good points. I do. I do. As far as I go, everybody loves Xavier Worthy, but let's talk about the other kid at Texas Adonai Mitchell, this man, this man here, he is a little, he's built a little differently than Worthy still like a lanky, but he's six, two, two, oh, five, he's built much differently than Worthy. I think that's very safe to say. Just he's got a, he's got a four, three, four, 40, 39 and a half inch vertical. And it's just just once again, kind of like with Worthy, just the explosiveness, the body control, the hands, that's what you want. Just he's so good at just creating separation and not just with speed, but with footwork because speed to get you far in college, in the NFL, it's the footwork at Osabia. And the only issue that I have is really just, he's not very physical. He gets bullied around sometimes by like press coverage. And he's not a good 50/50 ball guy, because like I said, he's only 205 view of a corner that's like 215, 220, he's going to body him every time. That could be an issue. But there's nothing the weight room can solve, especially when it comes to that. And here's another kid that I definitely think is underrated, South Carolina Xavier Leggett. Now here's the thing, he's 61, 221 pounds, and you're like, 221 is a wide receiver, absolutely not. Until you realize this man runs a sub four, four, four, 40 and he's got a straight up 40 inch vertical and 126 broad jump. Let's not pretend that this guy can't play, let's pretend he can't run and jump at the best of them. The court, when targeted, he has a 122.2 QBR. He's good in short because he can muscle around DBs, and he's a pretty solid deep threat as well, not shabby at run blocking, and his hands are pretty darn good. And considering the fact that Xavier Leggett is extremely unlikely to go in the first round, some teams going to be laughing all the way to a ring if they draft him. Okay, that's a bit of an exaggeration. But this kid's going to be scary. He's just reliable, that's the word, because South Carolina's not really the powerhouse they once were, but the fact that he's that big and can move that well vertically and in the middle, that's, that's what you want. And the only, and once again, another issue with him that I have, once again, it's, it's just coaching. See, he kind of lets the ball come to him instead of attacking, which is weird because he has the frame and mass to like go out and grab and win the 50/50 balls, but he wants to get it to his chest instead of like going out and like, right pulling in the ball himself. And this is another thing, like I said, that's just coaching. I think he needs to get better at recognizing defenses, because he will use, like I said, his frame to just absolutely bully smaller DBs, and I felt that's not going to fly when you're getting double teamed and defenses are more than willing to bring the fight to you. Just a little time in the film room, you know, a little time, you know, just in some coverage drills and it should be fine. That's what I got as far as underrated guys. All right. So to kind of lead off with the overrated guys, I'm just going to throw this one out there. I don't know how I'm necessarily feeling about Keon Coleman. Amen. Yeah. Glad. All right. Cool. Cool. We're good. We're good. So Keon Coleman is currently ranked as the number nine receiver from Florida State according to NFL draft buzz. And right off the bat, obviously he's got a good frame, he's six, three, two, 15, or actually wait, or he measured in at six, four, two, 15 at the combine. So he's got a good frame and whatnot, you know, he's got that Randy Moss Calvin Johnson type ability. He's got a good body. He's got great leaping abilities, a guy that you can toss it up to and he might come down and get it. Get it nine times out of 10, but in terms of the route running and quickness acceleration, not really seeing it a whole lot, he's got in terms of the measurables, you know, he's obviously he's got good hands, but in terms of the 40 time, he's in the 15 percentile, 10 yard, he's in the 68 percentile, you know, he's got a good QBR when targeted, 110. But you know, he was also dealing with a really good quarterback at Florida State. And for some reason, the name isn't Jordan Travis at the helm at quarterback, who was a Heisman candidate. So what if Jordan Travis was the reason for this kid's success? Maybe that's a potential reason. I don't know, but I'm just not a fan of the quickness, the acceleration is a problem. And how well is he going to be on the longer routes, especially for a guy that's going to be an outside, suppose it outside threat? Yeah, you know, I think you're right. And for a guy who a lot of people have, as some people would say like a top five prospects and the receiver realm, and for a guy that people say is a bona fide first rounder. The fact that he's that slow, that just on agile, don't you think that's a word? And just that poor route running, that's not ideal. And it's just, I mean, his hands are at least okay. And even for a guy on that size, you would think he's just a better blocker. But no, it's just he has like the physical tools that will serve him well. And college, but this man better find a new stick in the pro league because I am not a fan. I agree. He reminds me creepily of Quentin Johnston. It's funny you mentioned the run blocking part because one of the scouting report weaknesses that they have, and I'll just quote it straight from here, inconsistent, run blocking intensity despite his physical prowess needs to bring more aggression and tenacity to his blocking assignments. And that's the thing, we're in this day and age of where you're going to have where we're starting to see smaller and kind of in cornerbacks that are on the skinnier side. And you're, and obviously you could say the same thing about the receivers, but we're kind of seeing it more on the cornerback end. And so for a guy like key on Coleman, you should be able to dominate in that realm just based on size alone. So when you got an absolute dog on the other side that ends up showing more aggression and I'm not going to comment on Keon Coleman's heart, but we'll just throw it out there as more aggression and maybe more heart thinking on Coleman, he's going to get cooked every single time on the outside runs. Yeah, fair. Adam, what do you got? Yeah, well, I think as far as overrated goes, I mean, I got a piggyback off of Keon Coleman. Yeah. I think Coleman is, he doesn't have good speed and yeah, he's fast in route running. But you still need to make sure that you're getting open. And I just don't think that's a quality that really translates into the NFL. So Coleman, we're really picking on Coleman here, but I mean, he's, I mean, he has draft bus written all over it. I mean, we look at not just Coleman, but we also look at Quentin Johnson. We look at Nikhil Harry before him. They're all players who have the same kind of play style, but it just didn't translate into the NFL. It's really going to be no different here with Coleman. And he's going to end up being a late first round pick. Wouldn't it be hilarious if he goes to the Bills and they think they drafted the very next Stefan Diggs boy, would that be? Would that be a massive mistake? And I hear so much from Bills fans, we'll just draft another guy, we'll be okay. Stefan Diggs sucked, he was bad. Oh, yeah. Okay. Be careful what you wish for. You just traded away your all pro caliber wide receiver and Stefan Diggs. So that'll be fun to see. I love how we just went on a little key on Coleman trash sesh for like five minutes there. That was, that was pretty cool. Was even what didn't even do anything. He's probably a nice guy, but for a kid that's supposed to be going second round or mid round, you'd probably expect more or early second round, I should say, it's a maybe third round. You'd expect something a little bit more than that. And this could potentially be a guy that slides to maybe the fourth and fifth round just based off of those and tangible is alone. I don't know about that, but you never know. Yeah. No, I agree. The thing is though, when you look at some of the guys that would go in the first round, just Marvin Harrison, junior, Malik neighbors, Roma Dunes, Brian Thomas, junior, Adonai Mitchell, and even like some of these later guys like perhaps Xavier Leggett, I've seen like once or twice Troy Franklin, Vlad McConcany, Xavier Worthy, just Keon Coleman sticks out like a sore thumb. Everybody that I just mentioned, I would take over Keon Coleman. And I just, I don't know, like, I just, these big receivers that aren't fast and don't really sweat right when they're just the 50 50 ball guys, I think it may or may not be time to put that experiment to bed. It's like it's, it's one thing if he's fast and, or not fast, but is a good route runner and can go up for those 50 50 balls and it's just an absolute beast. But if we're going to compare, like, got receivers with big frames to Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss and, and guys like that who actually had super freak speed, it's, it's not going to happen. Because like we were just saying, if you're going to be a guy that's supposed to be an outside threat, then you kind of have to have the speed for an outside threat. But he kind of lacks that. Yeah. All right. Well, since I want to get away from, I want to get away from him right now. Since we've been kind of harping on him a lot, is there another receiver that we think from this class that we think it can be overrated or considered overrated? Well, honestly, we're just saying with the offensive lineman, kind of tough with draft, but who is probably the most prone to being that type of guy besides Keon Cole? I don't know if I give something to say. Well I mentioned him as my, one of my first wide receivers who I liked, but I still think he's overrated because I only want him in day two. I think Xavier Worthy is a player whose draft stock, again, I think he's going to be a little overdrafted and I hope he isn't. But he's a player who has good vertical speed, but has terrible hands. That's something that I worry about a little bit. We're not looking for track athletes here. We're looking for wide receivers, NFL players. How good are you when you're route running? Do you have a good route running? Do you have a good route tree? Sure, you can outrun a player by running straight in a straight line, but a lot of players, like anybody can do that. I wouldn't say anybody. That's being fast is still a good quality. We're not doing track meets, we're doing NFL games. We're talking about Super Bowl victories here. And Xavier Worthy is a great athlete, and this is a guy who has kind of a limited route tree, and I think he has some upside, but he's got to work on those hands. And I think this guy is, I'm worried that this guy goes in round one. I like him in round two, but that's all I like him as is a high upside player where maybe you can coach him into out of some of the issues that he has, but I don't, I don't, it looks like his draft is being overblown in the same way John Ross was. Yeah, that was something I really didn't want to bring up, but yeah, like John Ross, Tiva on Austin, guys that show, obviously Tiva on Austin are as fast as John Ross and Xavier Worthy, but you know, it's, we're talking about guys that showed off some really good speed and had a lot of promise. Yeah, it's John Ross definitely comes up as one of those names, to say the least. So the thing with Xavier Worthy is that in the first round, I wouldn't hate him, like, go into Kansas City at like pick 32. I mean, granted, I don't want him in Kansas City, but you know what I mean, I wouldn't hate him. Like pick 32, like pick 30 to the Ravens, like absolute like tail end of the first round is the absolute highest I'll go, but there has been some whispers that maybe just maybe he's earned a spot made in first round. And my answer is, no, do we learn nothing from John Ross? Yeah, yeah, that's a sad thing. And let's see what his comparisons are looking like right now. I actually didn't even look at it. Player comparisons, Marvin Mims, Jr., Jordan Asen and Charlie Jones, Jordan at it lies. He is not Jordan Addison and I hesitate to call him Charlie Jones. You can take that up with NFL draft buzz on that one, but to their credit, they said 69% nice for Jordan Addison, so for the similarity. And in terms of Mims and Jones, Mims is only 73%, Jones is also at 69%. So it's not like we're talking about that they're the exact same player here. Yeah, he's another player you can look at is potentially Darnell Mooney, a player who's in for Darnell Mooney, I think that's a very realistic outcome for him. That would be the best case scenario, a player who's maybe not a number one wide receiver, but he could be a low end to high end three who is an elite deep threat and can easily get open. The issue would be whether or not he could catch it once the ball gets to him. And if you can stay healthy, Darnell Mooney has had issues in the past with health and speed is very precious in this league, I'm not trying to downplay his speed because that's still an important. It's a very important quality to have in the NFL, especially if you're a wide receiver, but it goes away fairly fast. So if you're relying on your speed, maybe you'll pan out for a little bit, but if you face the injury bug, God forbid, that could be a problem. And once that speed goes away, that speed that you were relying on, you're going to be out of the league very fast. Yeah, and that's the other thing too. We'll look at some of the other measurables here, 21st percentile for hands. We're talking about his size, obviously 511, 165, that's bottom of the pack, whatever. But in terms of vertical, broad jump, 10 yard, 10 yard dash, it's all above 95%. So this kid is an athlete in his own right, but is that going to translate from the speed demon in the college game over at Texas where he's got Quinn, you were throwing to him to pros where I mean, granted, don't really know it's a toss up of where he could end up going. But say he goes to a shitty team, then is that going to be able to translate where he can be that show-stopping wide receiver. And you guys mentioned he could maybe be a good two or three, and that's kind of what you might end up getting with more of these guys that are outside the top 10. Maybe you're not expecting Xavier Worthy to be a number one target, right? Maybe you're more expecting him to be that number three slot guy. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what you're looking for. Sort of that guy who can kind of hear another comp would be a Marcus Valdez Scantling. So MVS is the type of player who is useful on a team, but he's also not imperative to have, right? He's probably number three option. Your team probably isn't that good if you're a number two. He's certainly not a one, and if he is, you're probably the bottom of the league. He's a 50/50 ball in the sense where, not in the sense that the ball is close to the defender and you need to run up, reach up and catch it. It's quite literally 50/50 on whether or not he's going to catch the ball, because the guy has some major issues with catching. Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes can tell you all about that. He's a good vertical threat, and he catches some big, big, deep balls. You could see all throughout his highlight tape, he's catching some, he's catching from Aaron Rodgers some huge deep throws late in games, and I think there's some value in that. So if Xavier Lworthy becomes that, that's great. I just hope that this isn't a guy teams are investing a first round pick in, because I don't think he's worth that. No, you do have a good point. It's just that when people see speed, they get so dazzled. And like I said, there are teams like Kansas City, you know, guys like the tail end of the draft that I think can get away with it, perhaps like Baltimore, if that is the round they wanted to go, but I don't know. It's just calling some of these receivers overrated, aside from Keon Coleman is so hard because I like somewhat basically every receiver that's going in the first round. It does seem like most of these guys are pretty properly rated, and really the top four guys are going to be the top four guys, most likely, like Marvin Harrison, neighbors, O'Dunzi, Brian Thomas, like those are very, like, those are set in stone going to be your top four guys. And then once you get to number five and onward, that's where that's where the real conversations really start up at that point of who's properly rated in this class. Oh, is this guy really the fifth ranked receiver? Is Audenai Mitchell really the number five guy? Is Xavier Laguette? Should he be ranked higher? Because, you know, Mitchell is a guy that is his average position rank is seven or Laguette. He's currently ranked eighth on the NFL Draft Buds, and he's in his average is 12 or Keon Coleman, his average is five, and he's currently ranked ninth on the NFL Draft Buds. And based on our conversations already, it seems that he shouldn't even be in the top 10 to begin with. No, no, he should not. I'll tell you this much, though. Out of the top three, Marvin Harrison Jr., I think, if we have any objections to Marvin Harrison Jr. being the top wide receiver in this draft, say I don't know why he would. Cool. Yeah, because there's some of those, like, smokescreen reports, or it's like, oh, this team has Malik neighbors, or O'Dunzi number one, it's like, they're just trying to be different for the sake of being different. Yeah. Right. But it's between Roam O'Dunzi and Malik neighbors, I take O'Dunzi. I think he's the more complete wide receiver. Just the fact that I'm not saying that neighbors can't play on the outside, but just the fact that he's only used out there, and that is where he's put, for the most part. I think O'Dunzi is the player who is a little more complete. And I think he is Marvin Harrison Jr. light in the sense that he can do it all. And I think he is the slam dunk number one wide receiver coming out of this draft. I still think neighbors is going to be a number one, but I think O'Dunzi is going to be better. And if Marvin Harrison Jr. doesn't pan out in the sense, in any sense of the word, let's say he's just a little worse than we expected him to be, I think that's going to mean O'Dunzi is going to be the best wide receiver to come out of this draft. But that's only if he fails to live up to expectations, which all three of us believe that Harrison Jr. is going to be the best guy. Yeah, the thing, though, with neighbors is just that, like you mentioned, the fact they exclusively use him in a slot is very concerning, whereas in comparison to O'Dunzi, you can pretty much just plug and play him anywhere. I think that neighbors has the ability to be explosive. He just means a lot more like refining, whereas I would say O'Dunzi is a little more polished. Yeah, I mean, I think that all three of them are going to be good, it's just there's varying levels of NFL readiness. In terms of NFL readiness, I think we're at a good spot to call today on this one, unless you guys got anything else to add around the league. We're at that point of the NFL offseason where things are kind of have died down and really it's just all about the NFL draft at this rate, and that's what everyone's gearing up for. Yeah. With that being said, we thank you for listening. Of course, new episodes coming out Tuesdays and Fridays, Tuesdays at 7.30pm, Eastern Standard and Fridays at 5pm Eastern Standard. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. We also have all our episodes available on Spotify, Spreaker, Apple Podcast, IR Radio, Google Podcast, and so much more. Also, be sure to follow our Instagram, Fomoruski_Pod, or Underscore Podcast, and our TikTok, Fomoruski Pod to keep up with the Pod and the latest coverage on the NFL. Otherwise, for myself, Chris Kossich, CJ Medeiros, and Adam Wright, we say so long. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you on Friday over and out. 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