The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
11/18 Hour 3 - Mike Tyson Is Over Rated
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Come on, 5-8-4-7, you're selling me short, I'm hilarious, might as well do stand up. 4-2-1-8, Granado said it this morning, the icebox, they're an AC company, I saw swaps in that too. I think that's too, I think it's too obvious. Thank you for mansplaining by the way, 4-2-1-8 that they're an AC company, we didn't know that. Seriously, I think you say that, but at the same time, I think that's how these things normally really take shape, is that they're just going to start saying what's the easiest thing to call it, they'll call it the icebox. I don't love the icebox, I like mine personally, Ocho says the big unit's a perfect name run with it. So Ocho likes you. That's the one I came up with. I thought Ocho had a better taste for comedy. Shut up. He can get you to open for him since he's done stand up. Yeah, I would be awful at stand up, I'm not very good in a public setting. They give me to host these MCs, these events and stuff, I can't sit and do them. I don't mind doing the live reads and what we do and all the other things, but yeah, sometimes doing where you've got to interject the comedy at the right time and all these other things, it's a lot of work. Yeah, I force myself to do them to try to get better at them, but I really don't like doing them. I despise them quite frankly, but yeah, I'll be happy to do it for you at the right price. So Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, let's start there. Do you want to start with John Jones, Steve Bank? Which one do you want to start with? I think we can get the joke out of the way first. I think that the Tyson Paul thing, as much as I had hoped that it would be at least somewhat non embarrassing and competitive was the exact opposite. It was worse than anything for a hate to offend any WWE fans, Brian. But at the same point, even if it was scripted, that was the worst script ever written because that screenplay ain't going to play. That was awful. What Mike Tyson threw, 16 punches through the entire thing? No, he threw punches thrown, it was over 50, but punches landed, it was like 16. I think it was like 16. It might have been a little bit higher than that. It might have been just above 20, but it was, yeah. It was embarrassing. And most of that came with the first round, like I unfortunately, I didn't watch the whole thing. Did you watch the whole thing? I didn't watch anything without any of it. I watched the whole thing, not live, because I didn't want to guess to when it was going to be on. That was at the next morning. And Tyson actually came out for about the first 30 seconds, two minutes. You're doing this real serious takes again. There's a fake boxing fight, it's just, it's hilarious that we think this was real. No, I was hopeful. I hoped it would be somewhat real and it was awful. That's the point I'm getting to. Tyson had about 30 seconds where he actually tried to fight and after that, he stood in the middle of the ring and Jake Paul just- He couldn't move. I know. That's the point. He had no balance. He's jacked. He had no balance. He almost tripped on the way to the ring. Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah. He almost tripped on his way. There's no balance. They wouldn't have showed this one. He almost tripped on a chord on the way to the ring. I thought, one, we shouldn't be analyzing this fight like it was a real fight. He lost to Kevin McBride 20 years ago and suddenly Mike Tyson is back. It's comical. This was a glorified sparring session. There's rumors of this DJ that was hosting the Jake Paul party that Jake Paul told him that they couldn't even actually go at each other. That was part of the arrangement where they couldn't go at each other. It was two-minute rounds. They were using 16-ounce gloves to think that this was a real fight, was ridiculous and silly. I thought that Mike Tyson's Rakeshi butt looked better than the actual fight, quite frankly. This was a joke. It's a travesty. I'm glad that it worked out this way because I was telling you this was how it was going to look the entire time. There was no way that this was ever going to look like a real fight ever. The fact that Tyson is sitting there, I'd be open to another fight. I bet you would to get another $20 million to play dead. I mean, you didn't do anything at all to collect $20 million. This should be your final coup de gras. Walk away from that because that was ridiculous. No, I don't blame them for making $25 million to have a sparring session with a guy. It's better not be cool again if you're the public. Like he was talking trash to Logan Paul afterwards or Logan Paul was talking trash to him or whatever. Like, why wouldn't they fight for $25 million more? This was doing more ratings in the Super Bowl, which is how sad it is. How much we crave actual boxing in our lives. We clamor for actual boxing in our lives. They were having the social media influencer who can't really box. And Mike Tyson, who 20 years ago, lost to Kevin McBride, this is doing more numbers than the Super Bowl. More numbers than the Super Bowl. Yeah. I think that's the thing. That's the embarrassment of where we are as a society right now that people, like we talked about it. There were people that were holding out hope to the point where they were absolutely glued to their screens that this was actually going to be something worth watching. And it wasn't. It was a ridiculous, embarrassing spectacle. But the fact is, is this is what boxing has become because it's easier to name these two guys in a ring than it is the actual heavyweight champ. And the fact is, is that's how far boxing has fallen. And that's what the real travesty is too. The fact that Mike Tyson got $20 million for that. Well, I mean, he, he deserved it. Like they were, they, the numbers on it were through the roof. The numbers on it were crazy. And it wasn't based on a draw, not on boxing. Yeah. And it was, and it was like, I mean, kind of free Netflix isn't totally free, but it's not a pay per view. You're not, you know, showing out $60. Yeah. It's not a pay per view. And it was people already have Netflix. I'm not sure how many people actually have Netflix, but this, this drew more than Superbowls. It's insane. Like we, we actually crave real boxing in our lives and we crave it so much that we're watching a social media influencer with zero boxing skill. He has no screen. He might have a little bit of pop, but he has zero boxing skill. I hope he fights. No, I hope he fights a real boxer because they would destroy. Here's the thing. If he does, the expectation is going to be just exactly what we just got done dealing with that. Canelo is going to fight like a true boxer that he's going to, but I think we want to see that. But you don't know that. No, I would. Well, he's still active. Canelo. I would best. I would bet the, I would get the farm. Okay. So, canelo would try to murder maybe in 10 years if he were, if he was, there you go. There you go. Because the problem is no matter how much we're hoping for that reality check of having a true boxer be able to be the one that could come in here and show that boxing is different on a different level. He's not going to fight that guy. It's how the contract is written. And if the contract is written, we're going to do it this way and we're going to do, and you know, but at the end of the day, I'm getting how much? Okay. Most guys are going to buy in for that. And the, the other thing, like, okay, let's say it, Mike Tyson was pretty overrated as a fighter. He was pretty overrated even in his heyday. He was the most vicious man, the baddest man on the planet, youngest heavyweight champion. I love Mike Tyson. We share a birthday. He was incredibly, I love him the fighter, incredibly entertaining, the most entertaining boxer that I've ever seen in my entire life. What was his best win? What was Mike Tyson's best win? I mean, speaks maybe there we go. He's lost to ever and yes, it was post incarnation or whatever, but he lost to Lewis. He lost a Holyfield twice. He got retired by a Kevin McBride, like Tyson's resume was pretty stinking overrated. This is why to some degree, when we talk, it's the, it's, it's when he got so offended by legacy because if you really take the time to delve down into it, there isn't much of a legacy except for fear of the aura of what Mike was supposed to be. Like there was always this from the story to the hard beginning, to everything he overcome, to custom auto, to everything that came with it, it was the fear factor of this man that has this, you know, unbelievable desire to absolutely try and kill somebody. But when you look at the end of the day with the results and the win lost record and the achievements, it's not even close. I would, I would argue that Sphinx was his best win. And again, I love watching Mike, I grew up watching Mike Tyson, most ferocious fighter, cock knock you out in seconds. He beat a lot of people before they even got the ring. Youngest heavyweight champion, his best win is very, very lackluster. And every big name that has fought him beat him, beat him it soundly, soundly. He didn't stand a chance of the end salut as he didn't stand a chance against Holyfield twice. And his loss before he went to prison was against a 36 to one underdog. You were signing up for that, that quick hard kill in the first minute and a half to the for, or to the first round because if he got further than that, with every passing second that it got further, his chances of winning went way, way down because he wasn't that true boxer that had the art of the sweet science. He was the kill master that in the first round, in the first minute and a half, he could do things that basically no one else could do. Even then, like people would get mad, oh I paid $60 for 60 seconds, well it's better than watching him for six rounds, three, three, three, eight, the only fight that he, the only time he fought a real boxer he lost, multiple, yeah, yeah, I guess that's true. I mean, he fought a few of them in their hate, like in their twilight of their career. The woman that went on before had 1,200 punches and 12 rounds, that was actually a good fight. That was legit. That was a legit fight. That was the highlight of the card. Oh yeah, that was the best fight on the card, yes, that was the highlight of the card. After the, that could be a trilogy fight, we might get another one. A lot of people bashing the, the Netflix stuff too, the, yeah, I heard that live it was suffering quite a bit, obviously people were panicking because the NFL's there in Christmas day. The replay for me was fine, but I can't speak to the live play. 0 9 7 9 at 19, he was knocking grown men in seconds, are you kidding? That's fantastic and that's an incredible accomplishment and the fact that he was the youngest heavyweight champion of all time, a record that still stands is astonishing. But he's nowhere near one of the greatest boxers of all time, not even close. He's not even top 10. No, he's not even top 10 in his division. No, this is, this is like the biggest. It was more of the, the marketing push and the overall impact because of the way he got it done than it has anything to do with being anywhere near the top 10 in boxing history. He's nowhere, he's never going to be in the same realm of achievements as Ali or Frazier or when you start talking about even Sugar Ray and going down the list of even Durans and guys like that, he's not going to come close. I did enjoy the John Jones fight though, although he looks a little slower to me. He looks a little bit slower to be John Jones does and he's probably at his mid 30s, he's 37, maybe late 30s, late 30s, I mean, he's obviously heavier because he's fighting it heavyweight and maybe he doesn't need that speeded heavyweight like he used to have it light heavyweight, but he looks a little slower to me. I really want to see him fight Aspenal in Dana Brown or Dana White saying that he wants him to fight Aspenal too and he's not going to schedule him Pereira, although John Jones is angling for Pereira. I think he might be ducking Aspenal a little bit. Something tells me Dana White's going to get that fight done and if Aspenal fights John Jones and John Jones is my favorite USC fighter of all time. I think he's the greatest of all time. I think that he would lose to Aspenal though. I think you're probably right, but I think it's still remarkable that a guy that no matter what he age, you know, middle to late 30s to be a guy of that size to have the athleticism that he has and that spin kick was sick. That was nasty. It was ridiculous what he did, how he did it and then where it landed and you saw the impact you're like, Oh my God, it wasn't like to the head or something like that. But the impact it must have had and feeling that was I think we kind of lose sight though that steep is 42 years old and hadn't fought in four years. Oh, like that was a little bit of Tyson light. Yeah, St. John Jones managed that a little bit of like a protective booking almost. I think so. I think it's probably to shake off a little bit of the octagon rust a bit, cash in, make a big payday and he was talking about hey, once I get a few money in this next fight, which is why I think it needs to be Aspenal because it might be his last. It might be his last and then you don't, Pereira making that jump to heavyweight would be tough because John Jones isn't going back to light heavy. It would have to be in heavyweight Pereira that's a big climb for him to fight at heavyweight. So you would be it like a not at his best Pereira fighting Jones where everybody really wants to see Jones and Aspenal. I really hope we get that. Yeah, I think so because I think that he is closer to the end. And so all the things that you said line up to get one big payday to get one for, you know, thanks for the memories and for all that I've done. He won't say it. He won't say this is his last fight. But if he gets that kind of money, he'll probably put it on the line one more time and then be able to fade in the sunset zero nine seven nine's not happy that I said that Mike Tyson's overrated is who would you take Holyfield or Tyson? Holyfield. Who would you take? Linux Lewis or Tyson? Linux Lewis. Where do Holyfield and Lewis rank of the all-time great heavyweights of all time? They're five. Maybe around. Yeah, I would say. It's top five. I think they're more like top 10. I think they're probably on the cusp of top 10 ish top 10 ish because I mean, I have to do it. I'll leave ahead of them. Foreman's ahead of them. I mean, Fraser's ahead of them. Sonny Liston? Probably. Yeah. I mean, obviously that'd be Rocky Marciano was undefeated. Although that was a long time ago against flummers, he was beating plumbers is what he was doing. Yes. But no, I mean, Tyson's not a top 10 heavyweight. No, he's not. Of all time, he's not a top 10 heavyweight. You can even make the argue that some of the current guys, like Tyson. No, I don't think the sport is as healthy as it was then. No, I mean, I mean, I think Tyson and his prime beach. I mean, you see a top 10 story all time. Oh, yeah. I think I think I think he's the number one most entertaining fighter of all time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, which is, I think where you can draw the separation results titles, all the things he's never going to come close. But in terms of the story and the impact when he did fight and the star power of it, now it's a different conversation. 732. Thank you. I'm not saying I'm not saying I agree with that argument, but that would be the argument that when we get incarcerated, I 100% 100% agree. But the make the devil's advocate case, that would be the thing, like he didn't face Tyson at Tyson's best. I would argue what Holyfield's best thing I was going to say, I'm trying to make the argument. Look, it's admittedly it's a reach. I'm trying to make the argument. 8950 Tyson didn't fight those guys in the 80s and his prime. He would have won. Okay. But he didn't. That's the ifson butts game. You can't do the ifson butts game. How you manage your own career also has an impact on how we look at when we're being realistic about the entirety of your career. He screwed himself. He did. Like if you're if how are we how are we defining top 10, like how are we defining who is in your top 10? Are you going based on their record? Are you going based on it? Well, I think he would have beaten this guy if he never went to prison. Or if you fought him when he was 26 years old, a 4000. You guys say dumb bad word all the time, but that might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Tyson is not a top 10 heavyweight fighter. Come on guys. Oh, and three against real heavyweight fighters that are on the cusp of being top 10. So we have to go by the hype train, which includes hypotheticals, because he didn't handle himself correctly enough for us to see who we could actually fight that we're at the level where we could make a judgment. I think this would be I didn't think this is going to be that controversial. Four thousands mad. He said stick to being Texans homers are much better at that. Well, thank you for the compliment though. That is nice of him to say that he doesn't he doesn't agree with our Tyson's take. I remember watching boxing when every weight class had several named fighters today's boxing does not have it not even close like there's there's only even like one or two boxers that are well known that you would even be like even remotely interested. I mean, Canelo's obviously the biggest crossover star. I mean, after that would be probably Terrence Crawford or Tyson Fury. Yeah, and even that's pretty scary even though like I don't even think those are like household names amongst casuals. Right. You're a boxing guy. Who's the current heavyweight champion of the world? It's a USIC. Is it more than one? No, he's the linear or not linear, sorry, he's the undisputed unified champion. I love boxing. I've never seen a fight. I was going to say and it used to be where he's fighting Tyson Fury in a rematch into some. Oh, he's the guy that beat Fury. Yeah. Yeah. Fury's cashing in for decades. You could name the heavyweight champion of the world like that and heavyweight division even actually you mentioned the heavyweight divisions down and while that's accurate, the heavyweight division is actually better than it had been for a long, long time. Like, and you look in like the mid like the 2010s, all the best fighters like 160 and under like heavy now with with obviously Deontae Wilder coming up and Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, you shake those guys actually made the heavyweight division more enjoyable than it had been for probably a decade, but but it used to be where you're right. You know, it was the household name. Exactly. 8835 says BMAC saying Tyson Fury over Mike Tyson. Let's come down for real. Be serious once. That one was a bit ridiculous. All right. Tyson Fury ain't beaten dice. I am Oh eight, seven, five, five, Tyson versus Holyfield equal as Pacman versus Mayweather. I have Holyfield and Pacman. See, I think you're selling Mayweather short. I think Mayweather was one of the greatest of all time undefeated. People didn't love Mayweather because he kind of ducks guys in their prime. Yeah. But he also we didn't see Pacquiao and he didn't have like a knockout power where he's gonna knock out every single dude, but he put on a clinic almost against everybody. He fought, I thought Mayweather was the truth. He gets knocked a lot. I don't agree with that. I think Mayweather was fantastic as your nine, seven, nine, why didn't Holyfield fight when he was a light away to if I remember correctly, Tyson was supposed to beat Buster Douglas and then that was going to be the next fight. I think that I think that's correct. I'm almost 95% surely field. Yeah. Yeah. That was like his tune of fight going to Japan taking a tune of fight. Go ahead and just beat Buster Douglas the 36 to one dog and then that was supposed to set up Tyson Holyfield. I want to say that he might have even been scheduled anyways, but then Tyson got in trouble. I want to say it was scheduled. I want to say it was scheduled. It's possible. It's possible. There are a lot of times where guys will have these tune of fights and the second the fight ends, the promotional video for the next flight starts like the deal has already been right. So that's certainly, that's certainly possible. I want to say it was booked. I want to say it was booked and then he got in trouble and it threw it all off the radar, but he was going to fight him after Buster Douglas 9501, the 4,000 number sounds like a tweet. Be nice just because he has differing tags. It doesn't mean you have to say mean things about him. All right. 713 780 ESP and speaking of physicality and toughness, a little worried about Will Anderson's ankles. It is the bees on ESPN 97 5 and ESPN 92 5. Hey, before we go to the break, a word from our good people at Banditford Air. 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Well, because I can hear myself, you know, just my own ears, but yeah, I mean Floyd didn't fight obviously extremely, he didn't fight an appealing style for casuals, but anyone who enjoyed the defense of the sweet science of boxing, the way Floyd will roll his shoulder and just not let anybody touch him, how can you not like enjoy that? He was part of it was he knew how to play the game. I mean, he was a self-promoter. He was a crap talker. He was the guy that kind of still followed that old school plan that built up the brands of Ali and some of the biggest fighters in the game. And then when he went in there, he just he dissected you and I think that yeah, he did lack that big home run punch. But at the same time, if you were any kind of a fan of the sport itself and he brought the other elements to it, it was the full package. Yeah, he was just the one of the best with the sweet science and he would pick you apart. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed that. If there was a criticism to me that's fair of Floyd is the way he picked when he fought guys. He waited to fight Oscar. He waited to fight Pacquiao and he he smartly fought Canelo when Canelo was super young and green and not ready for it. No, that's perfect. He picked his fights smartly, but I mean, that's the game, you know, so I can't crush him for it. But that is a part of his story. My killer, he's Cougs. A hardball classic. Thanks to little Woodrose for having us out at Brayburn Country Club today. I'm starting to get a little worried about Will Anderson's ankles, guys. Am I losing my mind here? Sometimes I get a little conspiracy theorist. It's a very fine line with me. Sometimes I go overboard. Sometimes my takes are a little wacky. They're a little wonky. Like people think I have a bad take with Mike Tyson. Will Anderson missed two games last year towards the end of the year with the ankle spray and the cost of missed two games. Might it cost them more games if they weren't in playoff contention or if it happened in the middle of the year? He's going to miss today's Cowboys game so that's at least two games this year with an ankle injury. We'll see if it continues and he misses more. He missed a good portion of training camp with an ankle injury. Am I right? You know, I understand the Texans fans like to hear this. And we're always Texans homers. Is my concern for Will Anderson's ankles valid or am I losing my mind? I actually think it's legit. I just think that thankfully we're not dealing with knees and the kind of things that can absolutely go to a certain point and then derail an entire career. But it's legit no matter what because it's multiple injuries to the same body part. But I go back to if you want to look at glass half full. I go back to the Steph Curry analogy with ankles and feet in the fact that when he came in the league, he had the same kind of problems. They traced it back to actually shoes he was wearing and things like that. But there was a legit concern that you were never going to see the true abilities of Steph Curry because he was never going to be healthy with his ankles. And then thankfully they found a way to correct with the shoe and with his health and what he did in the off season to get him to a point where we've seen the real Steph Curry. I hope that that's the recipe that says I'm not going to have to worry about Will Anderson his whole career, but it's also a more physical game than it is in basketball to where, yeah, and at any time when you had multiple injuries to the same body part in a short period of his career, then yeah, you should be concerned. I know when we asked DJ this on Friday, he was like, well, he got rolled up on. But it also went inward and not outward. Like, and he's missing two games with an ankle that went inward. Like the Joe Nixon one was the outward one and I, I don't know the scientific, I could have looked that up, I guess, but I'm too lazy to do that. The fact that he had an inward ankle roll and I know that he got rolled up on and is missing two games is like, I think he's got weak ankles. I think he has weak ankles. It's kind of like when you talk about the joint in your, when you, when you, you separate your shoulder at a certain point, you have to go in there and tighten up the joint so that it doesn't keep popping out. That's the thing that you have to worry about when you start worrying about ankles and things like that. The fact is, is that sometimes when the ligaments get stretched out, the frequency of them stretching out and spraining ankles becomes more prevalent because of the fact that you've done it multiple times and over and over again to where that's why it's legit and just to, just to let you know, I've rolled my ankle many times. I am an ankle. I am an expert on the ankle roll. That's one of, that's one of my areas of expertise. I know a thing or two about a thing or two when it comes to the ankle sprain. A text or the overconfidence, the Texans will win big tonight when they already lost to the Jets on the road. I do see that arrogance a little bit with the fans. It's like, oh, we're going to roll the Cowboys. No big deal. You lost to the Jets who have been a train break on the road. What happened to the Jets in the weeks after weeks after that? Yeah. They've, I saw people, I saw some people yesterday on Twitter, like showcasing the lions blow out when against Jacksonville and it's like, look at the Texans. They play Detroit closed and it's like, are you not going to have the same conversation with the Jets? So like in one breath, you're going to talk about how good they looked last week and defeat against the lions, but you're going to totally ignore that they got embarrassed by the Jets. What's the Jags game close to? Because I was going to say for the same people that were saying the Jags against, well against the Texans. Yes. That's what I'm saying. My God, my mind yesterday was the fact that everybody was going, see this legitimizes that even though you lost to the lions, you lost to such a good team and you, you didn't get done to you with so many teams have done that it was a great win. Well, the team that they blew the doors off was in a ball game shoot out with you, which tells you you might not be the team that you think you are. Yeah, you can't go. You can't go. Okay. This team looks really good after we beat them and play the morale game whenever the Jets have looked terrible since you beat them. Terrible. That's right. Like six weeks, like that since they fired Sala, they've won one game. I think they're one in three, one in four since they fired Sala who was the one in the one in four. The Texans, you can't, oh, the lions look really good. So the Texans lost to them. So acceptable and okay. And it gives you reason for hope and then totally ignore the Jets game. It's like, I'm going to give you the argument, but I'm going to stop halfway through because it doesn't fit my narrative. Right. I mean, that's the thing where you just have to get the blinders off and realize if you're not looking at it with Texas and blue glasses on, this team has under achieved all year and even when the games are through, aside from the Patriots game, the teams that you were supposed to blow the doors off of, you won, but you didn't win them to a point where we were convinced you're an operational on team. And then because you had, you had a team that wasn't operational on team, like the lions, you know, basically dead to rights, that would have been great if you finished the deal because you got the five turnovers. Your defense played great. There was a lot to hang your hat on. Instead, there was everything to point fingers at and say, your quarterback missed throws, your offensive line, this that you couldn't run the football, all these other things to where it doesn't matter who, you know, how many games they win by 50, you should have beat them by a whole lot more than you did. You lost. Yeah, it's just, it's just given 50% of the story, which is always annoying. Textor saying, I heard with the ankles that they never get stronger as well. I think there's rehabs and exercises that can make them stronger. Exercises for sure. Showed broad up stuff. But that was a recent Steph Curry, so it was a super cheap deal that he gave, like his first contract, I don't know what it was, like a $40 million deal and obviously he's been fine. Super cheap. What they under priced him even when his first deal came off. So I'm saying, because of the ankles, it started. So I mean, that's what we're always going to point to, like Steph Curry, they thought it was going to do well. It's career. He's been fine. All right, game. Do you give your game balls to after Sunday action in week 11 of the NFL, Killer B's broadcasting live from the Cougs Hardball Classic on ESPN 97.5 and ESPN 92.5. You're listening to ESPN 97.5 You're back with the Killer B's, ESPN 97.5 and 92.5. Broadcasting live from a mobile Veritex community bank studios located at Brieburn Country Club for the Cougs Hardball Classic. Here's Joel Blank and Jeremy Brown. Thanks a little, Woodrow's and Houston Baseball for having us out for the Cougs Hardball Classic for a good time. Everybody kind of, I didn't see what won. I'm a guest 15-16 under. Yeah, I thought 16 would be the minimum. Yeah, probably. All right, let's get to our game balls, 713-780-ESP and who you're giving your game balls to this week? 713-780-3776. Blank, do you want to do the honors? Sure. I mean, we were just talking about them, the fact that depending on what you feel like as a Texans fan, the Detroit Lions made a statement again yesterday that they're the best team in the entire NFL. And in doing so, Jared Goff almost threw another perfect game. I mean, he pitched as good as you can pitch an NFL football 412 yards, I think four touchdowns. He was something like 24 of 29 passing. He was unbelievable. They absolutely destroyed the Jacksonville Jaguars and showed that they should be in the conversation for best in their conference and best in the NFL. Yeah, I saw people talking about how the Texans ruined Goff's MVP chances and then he throws for over 400 yards with him. He's right back. He's right back. I think that he has reestablished himself right back in the MVP conversation. Yeah, don't be really good. I'm going to give my first game ball to two or three-piece, two or tag of a loi. If you're two, three touchdowns in yesterday's game, I really wanted to give it to Jonah Smith because he went six for one on one for two, but I couldn't pass up the alliteration of two or three-piece tag of a loi. What's wrong with that? I think I don't know if I'm going to say tag of a loi, right? There's like an end in there, like tongue of a loi. Talk about a loi. Yeah, I think it's tongue of a loi. I think it's tongue of a loi. Talk about a loi. But I like the alliteration. Alliteration's good. Look, two is showing you that there is something to be said about. And I think Tyree Kill was the one that was talking crap to the other sideline basically saying you wanted him to retire when he's playing for us. We're a different football team, and that's absolutely true. And Tyree Kill has been the biggest guy carrying that flag for two of, but when two is playing, you just have to worry about him not taking another shot, which is going to be super difficult when he's trying to put his head on tackles. But other than that, there's no doubting when he's quarterback, that's a playoff caliber football team. All right. My first game ball, I can't believe it got to me, but Tason Hill, I mean, my goodness, and I know this is someone that ruined one of my busy money picks, but Tason Hill goes seven carries for about 38 and three scores on the ground, plus eight passes for 50 yards through the air, even through a pass in interception. But my goodness, Tason Hill just was unbelievable. And through for 18 yards, I calculated it through two passes, one got picked, one went for like 10 or 15, something like that, 248 total yards from Jason Hill by himself. Yeah. Two 48 by himself. Rescores. Yeah. I didn't realize, quote, unquote, tight end. Yeah. He's just the, I mean, obviously this is a fantasy take, but my goodness, if you, if you have them in fantasy and get these games at tight ends, you win. That bum, that bum turned it over twice. He did all this great stuff, the touchdown, 248 total yards, Tason Hill, that bum turned it over twice through an interception through a fumble. He did it all. He was running. He was catching, he was throwing, he was returning kicks. He threw an interception. He fumbled a football. He's a bum. He's a five to a player. It's called five tools. I'll be on the emphasis. Okay. That was an unbelievable game. Tason Hill is the best backup or third string tied in in the NFL when it comes to best ball. He's like drafted so much Tason Hill because he's always going to, he's not always going to have a game like this, but he's going to have a two touchdown game. He's going to have a three touchdown game, two or three times a year. He's going to be tied in number one, two or three times a year, and you can draft them as a second or third string tied in in best ball. He's the best secret weapon in best ball that exists. You get all of his stats. You play him a tight end? Yeah. Oh my God. He's a great backup tied in in best ball. People don't like drafted on because he's a little bit inconsistent. He's a little volatile, but what do you want from your backups in best ball? You want volatility. You want the volatility. All right. Who else are you giving a game? A bonus. 304. I mean, when you get when you get four touchdowns, 307 yards and you are a rookie quarterback, it doesn't matter where you were drafted. It matters that you're playing better than a lot of guys drafted ahead of you or you're and you're in the conversation. As much as we question what Sean Payton was doing and if bonyx was the right guy, right now it looks like Sean Payton was right and bonyx can play. Sean Payton looks like he can coach a little bit as one who has blasted Sean Payton in the past. Mostly because of how he quit on New Orleans. I got coach a little bit. He can do a little bit of coaching. I'm going to give a game ball to Anthony Richardson. Look in the face of adversity, Anthony Richardson who got bench for Joe Flacco. Think about that for a second. Anthony Richardson was bench for 49 year old Joe Flacco who throws more interceptions than anybody. He went 272 passing yards to touchdown, ran for 32 more yards, two touchdowns. He had had an interception, he did have a fumble there which cleaned up on the turnovers but Anthony Richardson in the face of adversity rallies his team to a victory especially with everything that's going on. Anthony Richardson deserves a game ball and the culture idiots. And he beat the Jets and just basically pulled the plug on what we're ending, we're remaining hope to add on a season. And the fact is that again another guy that can do it with his legs, he made throws, he's going to get better. So kudos to him for bouncing back and playing the way he was playing and being able to kind of, because a lot of guys would have kind of melted down and maybe wouldn't be all right for the rest of the year having gone through what he went through kudos to him for bouncing back playing the way he did. I hate that it's a division opponent but I really like what Anthony Richardson did yesterday. I respect that. The only people that don't like it are people that have Jonathan Taylor and fantasy football because he's told to your goal right? He did vulture a little bit. He vultures you a bit. My next game ball goes out to quarterback who's been a little bit up and down this season but was certainly up yesterday. Matthew Stafford goes for 294, four touchdowns. It has because the NFC West is just a complete chaos with the with the entire division being separated by half the game. The Rams are right in the thick of things after they obviously didn't have cup and Puka to start the season, start off the season pretty poorly being down those weapons and they're half the amount. Yeah, he showed the young buckaroo a thing or two didn't he and Drake may although Drake may looks like he's pretty stinking good too. He really does. I have no problem putting a fourth round. I agree with that. Maybe not a fourth performance this year. Just performance this year is easily fourth. It's not a question. Like Caleb Williams might surpass them in the future but in terms of what their body of work is currently today, he's easily fourth. I would have Daniel's one, but I would have Daniel's one. I would have picked two. I'd have May three and I'd have Williams four although Caleb Williams was better yesterday. Yeah, but Caleb Williams was much better yesterday. As a microcosm if you just look at the final drive the Bears had and look at the three passes that he made. There's a reason why you should have a ton of hopes still in Chicago. With the right coaching staff, he can play. I agree. He's just been missed coach. Yeah, I'm not quitting on Caleb Williams at all. I think he is a super talent. Oh, what else you got? Justin Herbert's got to be in there. I mean, 297, two touchdowns and his Brian and I were alluding to earlier. That first half, he looked pretty close to like the fact that, yeah, it was every pass was being made. He was running with the football showing that a lot of people don't realize as a guy that size, he can really run to when he has to or wants to. So he kind of re-reestablished himself as a really, really strong quarterback in this league. Yeah, he's, I think that we probably slept on him at the start of the season and still a quarterback who can go, who can get it. There's a lot of guys who could have given a game ball there too, JK Dobbins, two touchdowns, Lad McConkie, six for 123, but any time this guy catches a touchdown because everybody left him for dead, Quentin Johnston, another touchdown. People thought he was a bum. People thought he should have been out of the league. No hands. He's a bust. He's catching touchdowns every single week. You're just back in the big 12. No, I'm just, I'm proud of this guy. I'm proud of the story. I'm part of the big 12. No, I'm proud of the story because he was, he was written, he was left for dead. He was left for dead because, oh, he doesn't have any hands. He's a boss. What a waste of a traffic. And all he is doing is catching touchdown passes each and every week. I like the underdog. I like the comeback story and Quentin Johnston is the epitome of that. I think that's the, that's the biggest reason why I would, I'm all for it too, is the fact that people crapped on him all over the place. And you know, I remember Lance, he would say his hands are going to be a problem. They were. They were rookie here. But boy, I didn't think that he was going to be something like that is a more difficult skill to kind of really refine it and turn it around. He said he's having a hell of a year. Don't quit on people after their rookie year. My game ball going to Jackson Smith and Jigba. Best receiver in Seattle. I know. I was waiting for that. 110 yards. Geno Smith too. That final drive. Boy. Yeah. That was pretty. Geno. I had to tip my cap to Geno. That was impressive. That was a nice touchdown drive. Oh, one of them from 13 out stills a win from San Francisco. Well done. Geno. I watched that. That was nice. I'm going to steal one from Joel since he hasn't mentioned his package at Christian Watson. Four catches for four of four. Look what I found. Yeah. Four for a buck 50. I mean, that came out of nowhere. Talking of a guy that's been up and down ever ever ever since he came to leave. He's a big play guy and he had lots of big plays yesterday. He did. He had a couple that were really, really huge for a quarterback. He was really not as good as people think. And the other thing about setting you up, but it really, this goes back to the conversation we were having about the ankles of Will Anderson. Christian Watson was a guy last year in the off season that LeFluor said we're going to spend the entire off season trying to figure out how we fix his hamstrings because he's had hamstrings that have never been right. And I don't know how you do that medically if a guy has bad hamstrings. But when he does make an impact, it's huge. He just doesn't do it that often. Yeah. He's a big play receiver in your right. He's not going to have these nine catches. He's got a lot of Will Fuller in him. He's not even on the field that much, Shane Reed. He's got the Will Fuller aspect of his big play. And when he's on the field, he can do a ton, but yeah, but he's just not on the field. I actually think that the Texans could use that like one of their third or fourth receivers that is just this dude that can take the top off the defense. I think he would open up some things because Nico is not a burner. Tank is quick. He's not fast. They can really use them. Go full type. Like I really think that's a compliment this offense. The two catches that he made yesterday that were huge too, showed that he's got ability as a receiver, not just speed because the one in double coverage, he had to position himself when the ball was in the air, when the safety's head was turned and got just the right spot and then hung onto it. And then the one that he dove, they had, they sent it to replay. He made two really great catches yesterday. All right. One more each. One more each. Oh man. I don't know. It was on my list for six 57 yard long. They win by two. He not, he didn't make one, not two, not three, not four, not by six, six for six. They score touchdown. They won by two points. If he, if he's five for six, they lose a game. Chris Boswell, rice out, rice out Chris Boswell. You get a, you get a game ball for your leaders in victory. The Steelers weren't going to score a touchdown against the Ravens. I would say they're not going to win that game. No way. They got lifted by the heroics of Chris Boswell. Yeah. This is not a game ball, but I mean, we might want to just give Mike Tom a coach of the year right now. My last game ball goes to another wreck guy that's a committed reclamation project this year. Someone that's going to be in the running for comeback of the year, player of the year, but Sam Darnold, I mean, he was, they were, the Vikings offense was awful the week prior against Jacksonville. Only want to believe. Didn't he have like four picks in the game against Jacksonville? Yeah. He might have, but they only won 12 to seven. They were awful the week before. Sam Darnold, two 46 passing two touchdowns, plus they had a touchdown running, bounce back win for the Vikings. Well, it's still one the week before it gets to Jaguars, but bounce back performance for the Vikings offense in San Darnold. I went to, I went with Andrew Van Ginkle in that game team. High eight tackles, two sacks, three tackles for loss, Van Ginkle, he said several defensive touchdowns this year. He went to UH, I didn't know that Van Ginkle in to UH, you know that went to UH. Yeah, they did it and covered the spread and we're winning out of the game. Good teams win. Great teams cover. A few from the text line. Taste of Hill gets a game ball, good guy, scrapping football player deserves to have a great game. He's like 42, two game ball goes to Geno Smith and then a game ball goes to Russell Wilson. All right. Hey, what is your car wreck of the day? 7, 1, 3, 7, 8, 0, 3, 7, 7, 6, it is the bees broadcast and live for the Cougs hardball classic on ESPN 97 5 and ESPN 92 5. ESPN 97 5. You all right? He's broken the bolts going through. Get on you brick with my money. This is the car wreck of the day. Thanks again to a little Woodrose for having us out at the Cougs hardball classic. Appreciate being out here. Also coming up the boss and the gloss returns. It's been a minute. Oh yeah. They've had a show. They've had some scheduling conflicts really with Texas and basketball. So the boss and girls coming up at six o'clock in the Buzz Williams show coming up at seven. What is your car regular day? 7, 1, 3, 7, 8, 0, 3, 7, 7, 6, blinkers. What you got? I'll start with the long drawn out one, but I'll try and make it as quick as possible. Stanford's been terrible at football. Louisville is a much better football team. Stanford was down two scores late in the fourth quarter. They end up getting both of them. Everybody thought they should go for two to get the win. Instead they go for one. They play for the tie thinking that they're going to go to overtime. Louisville opted against taking the ball in the 25 yard line as a touch back. They ran it. They only got to the 19 on a tie game. They spiked the ball. They took a deep shot and then a short pass and another deep shot. They all failed. Stanford gets the ball back at its own 45 with four seconds left. It feels like OT is the only thing that's going to happen. They get a one yard pass. They get a 15 yard on sportsman like conduct on Louisville. And then just when you thought that was all it was going to take for a hope and a 57 yard field goal, they got it off sides as well and Stanford made the field goal and won the game in regulation. I saw that they won a tight game. I didn't realize it's how it played out. Not a lot of complete meltdown over and over again. That's a tough way to lose. I would be livid. I'd be livid if that were by my team. That's a good one. I want to nominate Netflix. Netflix gets millions, millions, millions, like 60 million views, 60 million views to watch fake boxing. And they can't, they don't have enough bandwidth. They don't have enough bandwidth. If there were streaming issues, people were having to exit and come back in. They have a triple header coming up on Christmas. You're not having enough bandwidth. You're Netflix. This was the test run, Jeremy. It was not a good one. They failed. It was a car wreck. If we were watching, if we were watching Bar Rescue, this would be the stress test. And then John Taffer at some point, shot the whole place down, but they'll be good to go when we get here for Christmas Day. I didn't know that the stress test. I didn't know what that was. You never watched Bar Rescue? I've seen it, but I, I'm not as familiar with it to know the exact terminology. You're doing yourself in this favor. Yeah, Netflix. My car wreck of it. What do you got, Blankers? All right, Brian. I've got a couple. The couple. Well, Brian Kelly started off with it. Brian Kelly and LSU to lose the floor. I know Florida got their, their quarterback back with the lag way, not playing the kid who was over-match against Texas the week before. But for LSU to go to six and four with a loss to Florida, Brian Kelly looking like he's going to have LSU kind of stuck in the mid-tier of eight for the SEC, that serves a car wreck of the day of the nominee. And then how do you not nominate the Jaguars who just, from the point last season where they beat the Texans in Houston and were eight and three, from that point forward, they want to believe one game the rest of the regular season last year. And obviously they've been a complete disaster this year, culminating with the 52 to six or whatever it was yesterday against the Lions. Just the Jaguars have an absolute combination. I think, I think Peterson's already done too, because the first thing, the first. How would he survive this? What I'm saying, the reinforcement was in the postgame, everything he said was, it starts with me. It's all on me. He's taken all of it because he knows that he just wants to get what he's going to say. Well he also knows he wants to get the hell out of there and get a check and get somewhere else because it started with the fact that he and Trevor Lawrence were never on the right page and weren't getting along. And now with the way they're playing and the fact that he knows, Jacksonville is a sucky city for football, that he just wants out. Yeah, that was a bad loss, that was a bad loss, the other car wrecks you got. I got Mike Tyson's cheeks. I think it was the best thing that happened to Mike Tyson that night was his cheeks quite frankly, and his banking account, that worked pretty good. And then I'm also going to nominate Spirit Airlines. Spirit Airlines went bankrupt, they filed bankruptcy earlier today. Shocker, cheap flights. I'm surprised that they were still in business, they filed bankruptcy today, I guess they'll continue to fly for a while, I don't even know how bankruptcy works, but I think they belly out. Until they start seizing their assets, right, just paying people off, predators and stuff? I don't think they're canceling flights yet, I think you can still hop on a Spirit Airline flight. I think you have it. But Spirit Airlines went bankrupt today, so if you like to party 25,000 miles above the sea, well, you're going to miss out and Spirit Airlines is dead, it's gone, it will be no more here pretty soon. 6049 says the Netflix server is the car wreck of the day. I'm worried about this little Christmas triple header, see if they have the bandwidth. I mean, we should say public service now, so it protects and spans, you don't have to watch it on Netflix, it will be available on the local thing. Oh, is that right? I didn't know that. They're not allowed to advertise that though, because for the last game, no, I'm saying no, I'm saying, for the last game, they weren't allowed to tell everybody that it as well as an Amazon Prime game that it was on 26, I think, too, and everybody after the fact went, wait, it was on 26, too, because the whole reason why they make the deals, they want you to buy. Yeah, for the local markets, you could still get it without Netflix. That's interesting. I didn't know you could do that. So any streaming service, they put on a one of the over the airs, huh? Mm-hmm. For the local teams. Yeah, for the two local teams, yeah. 4965, Josh from Seabrook, he wants to nominate the Paul Tyson fight, I don't know as I said on Twitter, and I think he just bashed it, quite frankly, not a whole lot of fun on that one. And then he may want to throw a Dikeian park on the list. I thought about it, but I mean, did the Astros make a profit on the whole deal? I'm wild. Yeah, as long as they made a profit on the whole deal, I don't care what you call it. I wonder if they're coming out ahead, though, because Minute Maid Park got out of their deal before it was actually up. That's why Schwab was catching a lot of heat. Schwab reported this. He did. Back in October. You were pointing that out. Early October. He did. Yeah, I put him on my bad take Boulevard bookmark to see if it actually came to fruition because if it didn't come to fruition, he would have landed on the list. But it came to fruition. Yeah, come on. You were pointing it out in him for getting it right, because you're right. He got a hell of a lot of pushback on that. So the story is that Minute Maid pulled out early from their 30-year contract or whatever. Do you know what, Nat with Coca-Cola? I don't know. I guess maybe they thought it was overpriced. Because normally, unless the team gets a better deal, there's no way the team normally lets you out. No, I think it was a Minute Maid Park thing. I think it was Minute Maid that decided to exit the deal. Right, but I'm saying-- But it might have been in the contract. Yeah, it's up saying. But if there was an outlaw that's one thing, otherwise the team, I know the Rockets would never let you out, unless the declared banker-- I wonder if they're getting out ahead. I don't know. I would like to see the details on this one. All right. What's going to look in here? Netflix or Mike Tyson. That's fine. Let's go to Netflix. Tyson still got paid. Yeah, it's true. Tyson still won. All right, Netflix, congratulations. You're the car wreck of the day. It's going to do it for us. Thanks to Brian on-site engineering. Abigail, back at gal. He's blank on Branham. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Houston, thanks again, a little Woodrose. Having us out. Cougs, heart ball, classic. The boss and the gloss. Your child's first step is a big step towards their future. 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