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Get more with Geico. We're back, Jay Foreman, DP, Austin Norman. We've got a special guest in here, Bill Michener. We're the old school crew plus one. We are brought to you by the Mercado Certified Piedmontes, special ingredients and butcher shop. Four locations, both in Lincoln and Omaha. Bill, CEO, extraordinaire of the Lighthouse. Welcome. Appreciate being here. You know, the one thing about Bill, we've spent many Saturdays predating herself in the garage trying to figure out in Nebraska football. Still haven't came to any. We've got plenty. We know the answers. We just haven't been able to put our action plan in effect. But today, Bill is going to be here on behalf of the Lighthouse. I sit on the board as it actually one of the greatest, one of the best honors when you guys asked me to be on there. I was like, man, I must have been full and you guys are getting me on there. But anyways, Bill, I want to before we get, we'll get into Husker football because I know you're dying to it. Because I know you're like, I didn't leave you on read. I knew you were coming in Monday. So we'll be able to get into football. But what people don't understand is when you're doing something that you believe in, what you're a part of it. Tell all our ticket listeners, our afternoon crew, how you actually are, even though by name or by, I guess, stature running Lighthouse. But you are Lighthouse. Yeah, I breathe Lighthouse. I'm a product of Lighthouse. And when I went to Lighthouse originally 34 years ago, almost 35 years ago now, I was out running the streets, dropped out of high school, literally throwing de-sized batteries at cars to get them to stop and fight me. I'll party and not caring about anything in my life, following in the footsteps of my brothers. My brothers both went on to prison. No boy, my family graduated. And so Lighthouse is what helped show a different path in my life. So then, once I did get back into school and I ended up graduating in the top 3% of my class, an academic letter in honors, went on to college, graduated with honors from college. I started believing in myself a different way. And so I've been at Lighthouse now almost 29 years. And I truly see these young people, and I see the barriers they have in their life. And I just want to help eliminate some of those and give them a better opportunity. And for people that don't know, let us know where the Lighthouse is located. We are on 2601 Inn Street, right in the center of downtown, or just outside of downtown Lincoln, in one of the highest poverty areas in Lincoln. Yeah, but it's a great facility, though. It's a great view. I mean, we built it because we wanted to give them something special to come home to. Yeah, I mean, it really is when we did our tour. Like, I think it was a little bit over a year ago. It just to see the growth of it is pretty cool. Talk about, I want to ask you about all the different. Talk about the Lighthouse program. So just say, Jay Foreman comes in the Lighthouse, take us from start to finish. OK, so first and first. Obviously, depending on how I got there. Oh, yeah, I mean, I mean, no kid has to be a Lighthouse. Right. Which is great. So we're going to, first of all, have you sign up. Right. And so we have a one-page document that just gives us the information necessary to track, know who we need to contact if something happens, that type of stuff. But really, the programming runs through our staff and driven by the kids. The kids come up with the ideas we put it into place. So we do everything programming-wise from we now have an AAU basketball team. The kids typically aren't going to have those opportunities that are getting coached up. It's the first year of us doing that. We have other structured recreational activities. We do programming that ranges everything from financial literacy, art, gender-specific programming. We have an education program because we want our young people to graduate from high school. By the way, we boast a 95% graduation rate for young people that come through our program. We do an alternative suspension program for the students that are in out of school suspension and middle and high school. So they have a safe place to go. We feed them. We work through the issues that they're having through restorative practices, which means that we're looking through their lenses first. And not judging them or telling them what they did wrong, but helping them start seeing how they can improve upon their actions in the future. So when they reintegrate back into school, they're in a better spot. Their homework is sent over to us. We go back and do that. All they're missing homework before they came to us. So the kids just go back in a different way. Yeah. The thing that's amazing for me when I got involved and got on the board is to really see how it's a true relationship with your staff and the kids. And every time I see the, I forget his name, but every time I see him, I always stop and talk to him. And it's like one of the best conversations I always have. I've only, I've only met him a couple of times when I talk to him, it's like, I'm there for 15, 20 minutes, but it lets me know that, you know, his story is really, really cool, but then he feels at home and he's just seeing him grow in the last three or four years is actually pretty cool. Is that one of the best things about being involved with the lighthouse, seeing people, you know, come out the other end. Obviously you lived it, but then also seeing what you put your heart and soul into have such a big impact in Lincoln. That's why I don't leave. And that's what it's all about is I get to see not only the young people, but even these young professionals grow and really develop in their profession and their art. And it's just such a cool feeling to be a part of that. It really is more of a family environment. And you see that on the board, the board even has a good time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We have a good time. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, when you get in the board, you get introduced real quick to the family atmosphere and it is good, I know, you know, have the big, big red beacon bash, but you know, today you're hearing about what four weeks we had the big Christmas event, which is huge. I was able to be there last year. That was the first one I've ever been able to be and it was actually pretty cool. Tell everybody the details about when, where and how they can, you know, help and donate further for the event here in about three and a half, four weeks. Yeah. But clearly we started this because our young people that we serve over 85% of the young people come up living poverty. And so for everybody, it gets a little tighter during the holiday season, especially for my young people. So we decided to do a hundred gift, $100 gift card that we give away to our young people, team them up with student athletes from the University of Nebraska and take them Christmas shopping. Eric Warfield is who started this with us. Yeah. You sure did. It's a tradition, Jason Peters obviously helps with the tradition of that, but it's become such a staple. So we do that at the North Walmart because that's where the money goes a little further. We try to get Target before it doesn't quite go as far as you do Walmart. So we have to, we have to play to our young people in our needs because we're going to be doing that on December 16th, which is a Monday. Yeah. And we'll bust them out there. We've teamed up with elite party buses and they donate that for us. And so we'll have three buses that transport our kids out. We'll get out there just before five o'clock and then we'll take them shopping again, $100 gift card each. So we shoot for $10,000. So we try to take a hundred kids out there. And is there a way to donate on the lighthouse website or yeah, Lincoln lighthouse.org and then you click on the donate button and then down below, you'll designate that to the Christmas shopping. I will tell you why when I was out there last year, man, it was pretty cool that it was too. It was two brothers and it was pretty cool. Like they were going back and forth and figuring out how to get that money to stretch. And then they asked me and I was like, Hey, dude, I'm never going to tell anybody how to spend their money, but it was great. Number one, they were very appreciative. I mean, when you want to, when you donate, I can, I can almost, and I almost guarantee that everyone's appreciative, but then also appreciative your support. But more importantly, it goes to the right people and it goes the right way. And that's why I decided to be on the board, but that was one of the coolest things going around with them for about an hour. And they were making it happen. I'm going to, you know, they were like, Hey, listen, I want, I'll get this candy. You can have this candy. I need this. I need that. And the best part about it, some of them really, really are, you know, shoulder nisters of and frugal enough, they have a little bit left over and which is good. And, you know, and so, and they don't just go in there and blow it. They actually use it for the right reasons, which lets you know that some of the programs at the lighthouse has really have a big impact, man. I'm in, you know, big shout out to Eric Warfield, but then also Jason Peters, that's like his Christmas present. I mean, he's, he loves that. And, you know, I got to get out there last year, hadn't been out there because of schedule. I hadn't been able to be out there before, but I'll be, I'd definitely be out there on the 16th. So the last, last time we had the board meeting, the date changed. So we got a 16. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I had to do that because one, Peter's was the problem. Yeah. It was this. He's always a problem. Daughter 16th birthday. So I let him. That's understandable. Yeah. That's understandable. And then we had some problems with the bus. Yeah. Because the bus light, Christmas light tours. I got you. Yeah. How many kids normally go actually to the store that day? Um, kind of depends on what's going on because we have some kids that are student athletes themselves, some have jobs. So obviously we let them off the hook for that. They still get the $100 gift card because they still need it. Right. Usually it's between 65 and 90 depending upon who's in what. Okay. And then if there was an item of need that most of you young people need, is there a thing that jumps out at you and say, you know what, for 65 kids, the standard is this. They need this thing more than anything else. See, the problem is, and I had a person while I was speaking say, why do you do that? That's an entitlement that you're doing with these young people. And I said, I'm going to challenge you to come out, watch them shy and tell me what you think. And he goes out and most of the kids are getting food for their families or buying younger siblings, their parents' presence. We encourage them to spend some on themselves because how many opportunities do they get to do that? Man, this gentleman went from a skeptic to now donating for this. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell you from personal experience, the way that they were the last, at least with the two that I went with, the last people that they were thinking about was themselves. You know what I mean? I just said, listen, man, I'm tired of hearing you guys talk about our buzz, but you have to take some as much spin on yourself, man. Hey, I never had, we never had that. You know what I mean? But that just lets you know how thoughtful they are. They're truly great kids and it's a great cause and it's a great organization, man. It's an awesome time. I mean, like I said, last year was the first time I went and I walked away from there, like completely blown away and you got to get a big shot of my man, Jay Pitts, too. Family. That's my family. That's my dear, too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we all, you know, Jay Pitts was there, he, you know, like, I have a little, a little shirt. Any four members. Yeah. Both of you guys are strength. So we were all good there. You know, you could throw hands or dizzy, you know, he could put you in the sleeper hole too. What day is the 60? It's a Monday. It's a Monday. Okay. So let me offer this that that Monday from 6 a.m. until what time do you go shopping? We'll leave Lighthouse at 4.30, so about five o'clock. So it's from 6 a.m. to 4 p.m. will offer you as many opportunities, time slots as you want to have you and your people come on the station and ask people to donate that day directly for Christmas for Lighthouse. Excellent. And I think that even if it's, you know, if it's, if it's 10 minutes an hour, I don't care. Come in, use that day and ask people to give because I have a sneaky suspicion that they would. And I'll start, I'll start this, but here's what I'll say. The kids will have $110 based on the ticket because we'll add to it currently. And then we'll allow that number to go up based on our listeners and how what they want to donate. So it's amazing. I appreciate that. Now, now, since we got it, we got the, the business out of the way. And let me tell you something about Bill, man, my man got, I got big hands, but he got big heavy hands. So I'm always sitting in the garage and he comes and hits me on the shoulder, then we was like, well, what are we going to, what's going to happen today? And we all were wishful thinking, but let me tell you something, Bill has an eye for football. Right. I mean, he watches the game. I like it because he watches it, you know, with emotion, but he doesn't react with emotion, which is what you should do, right? Because if you do both, then you can't really kind of come up with a, a true diagnostic of it. Bill, what is like, from your point of view, you know, with everybody's combed it over for the last 48 hours, what do you, like, we'll take a step further. What do you want to see come Saturday at two 30? Like, what do you think the missing ingredient is? Is that a fair question? I mean, that, that, that is a fair question and, and I think it's going to sound just simple, but it's that consistent ability to see downfield and, and to get the ball to our receivers downfield. That's been our biggest problem. We, we do these little short passes that brings every, everybody up becomes harder to run. Then we get into that, we got to pass, pass, pass, but we're not going anywhere. And that's the biggest issue I see right now is we've got to get it downfield. Not the tackling, not the coverage, not the, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know how you're right now. I know how you're wired now. I mean, I know you more than what you just said. I know you. We got to get you out of the CEO thing. Listen. Oh, boy, if you were trying to get me into the corner back discussion, that's a whole different thing. Well, we, the, the, yeah, well, we were in the garage. We were doing backpedaling. Oh boy. That's true. Yeah. You know, I, but I told you you probably more it'd be like a rover, but you were saying that you were a corner. So since you were a corner, you know, you like Pat Fisher for back in the day. Remember Pat Fisher in Nebraska corner? I, I, you know, just now, you know, Jason Seymour. No, you got that's not the problem. Oh, well, now tackling, you know, I didn't say there was the old problem. You asked me to diagnose one thing. All right. So, you know, we got lots of things that have been inconsistent and like, you know, I told you before we came on the radio, one thing that was a highlight was we saw receivers actually walk in this last game, which hey, there's a step in the right direction somewhere. Now, you talk about more than once too. Oh, yeah. Let me, let me, since, since you were a leader, you're a coaching leader, right? So here's where I said I, I would have a problem. This is just me and this would be just as a player, right? So it doesn't matter who calls the plays or anything. So just so happens we have a change in coordinator. So our new coordinator has, you know, he's got to call a place. But the, but the, you just said, so now you have better, now you look like better effort, right? Yep. Okay. More intensity. And it wasn't just one play. It was multiple plays out there in the print. True. So now for me, I have a problem because then I look at it as a choice. Is that a very? Right. Absolutely. I mean, unfortunately, the defense, you can see the choice staring you in the face. Right. You can tackle. In the corner. Sure. Five yard line. I mean, that, that was no effort at all. That was like half hearted. I don't know if I want to be on the field types. So to see that as disheartening, because I mean, if, if anything put in all the effort, and if you lose cool, but when you see stuff like that, it just, it hurts. Right. That's the stuff that, so saw some good effort, some other places, but not so good effort, some others. Right. Now I'm moving forward to Wisconsin now we, matter of fact, we watched the Wisconsin game. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. And listen, we in last year was better than the year before because we were on pins and needles. True. And I think last year, I felt like that Wisconsin game they played the win. They just came up short. So we actually, very true. We just kind of, all right, fine. We just came up short. So now this is a little pesky Wisconsin badgers there. Now they're a little bit of a wounded duck to now. Yes, they got a new coordinator and a little fickle said, why does it matter? It's going to be the tight end coach that's going to call the place. So what do you want to see out? They also lost their quarterback early in the year. Right. I thought they just lost their starting quarterback now. Well, that's good too. Yeah. Tyler Van Dyke is Tyler Van Dyke been out. The other guy is the other guy too. Well, they got the young brain lock is start. Yeah. Yeah. I will loss their starters. Yeah. I will also start. We'll worry about those. Jokers. Yeah. Yeah. We're about those jokes. There is no fair dodging. I don't even know if there's even a doubt there's even a point spread, right? We actually opened at one point five is what we hope is. Yeah. All right. Well, we're one point five. So that's just that's fine. That's complimentary at home. What do you think Nebraska needs to do to beat Wisconsin? Too much. I mean, one. We need to do too much with the defense. Let's start with the defense because we cannot allow them to run all over us like teams have been doing the last couple times, like literally missing tackles, rushing for 148 yards for running back. That's what we should be known for stopping the run, making it beat us through the air, which by the way, not a great option for us to have to rely upon our DB is because they're not. Consistent. Playing to the level that I had hoped at the beginning of the year. So first and foremost, we got to take care of that business first because Wisconsin's always got big dogs up front. They're always great running team. Yeah. If we don't take care of that, it's over. Period. We don't have a shot. Yeah. I think we do that and you know what the thing about that our defensive backs, I'm trying to think like, you know, they play relatively well against Ohio State. I think that's where I'm probably I would probably be most frustrated. You play against, first of all, you got the best receiver in the nation over there and the dude is like 18. I don't know. I mean, he's just wasting time, right? And then you got probably the third best or fourth best receiver and in Jigbo, right? Or not in Jigbo, but at Buka, excuse me. And then Tate is probably number 12. So they got the top out of the top 15 receivers and isn't cool. Colorado probably got four of them, but they got top 15, they got three and you did just fine. Well, let's talk about Colorado too, because it's the same same. We shut down Colorado well enough that game too and play well there. Right. So it's more of a consistency thing. Yeah. You said frustrating. I say maddening because it doesn't make sense to me how from one game to the next. Now, sometimes you have a hangover from games like that, right? Tough, close game. Yeah. Probably didn't get a few of the calls that you'd hope are no brainers that you'd get. So sometimes you have that hangover, but the hangover can't last four games. Yeah. And you know, the thing is, is like with USC is the two plays, I call it compound interest, right, whereas, you know, the first, the bomb where somehow we lost contained, he throws it up and you know what? Those are hard. Those are hard. I would tell you this and this is coming from experience now, right? So I don't ever get on air and be like, I never got beat or messed up. Sometimes those are hard to judge because the ball seems like it's up there and never. So tracking the ball can get off some break, okay, let's chalk it up to a lucky play. The next play, obviously, that cannot happen ever. You know, like the play that that I'm not that I'm not mad at is like when hard sawing on the deep, like he ran like an out, but he threw it from one side of the field, the other and he went for the pick and you should have just put a high hand up didn't made it to. I'm fine with that. You want to know why I'm fine with that? You compete. I'm fine with it because when you play against good teams, you're going to get beat and you're going to beat them. Looking for a place where you can grow a rewarding career? Look no further spectrum, a leading connectivity company is hiring near you. Working here means connecting with great colleagues, interesting projects, market leading benefits and dynamic growth opportunities. That's why Forbes named spectrum one of America's best large employers. They're currently recruiting for professionals in sales, finance, IT, engineering and more. Visit jobs.spectrum.com/podcast to connect to the perfect opportunity that's jobs.spectrum.com/podcast. 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So I think it's more just a consistency is probably got people more frustrated because you can't say it's been like that all year because you played against the best. Colorado probably has Colorado and Ohio State, correct me if I'm wrong, probably has the best receiving course in the nation. And if they're not the best, they're in the top four and neither one of them are four. So they're two and three or one and two, one and three, they ain't, there's none of them fourth. So you know you can do it. So I think that's probably where a lot of the frustration comes from. Because if you're at the panic, if you're at the at the apex of the best and you've raised your level and I don't and I'm not here to hear that like the all Ohio State was at 11, they're not motivated. They just lost the game against Oregon and let me tell you something Ohio State in Ryan Day, you think he he pretty much was like being asked about his job all week. So if you don't think that intensity was ranked ramped up, not sure is the same maybe as going on Penn State, not but they weren't out there just saying, okay, we're just going to play this game close and we'll just we'll get down to the last possession. Now at halftime, I can guarantee you guys are saying, we got wake up, we got get going. So Nebraska will still their best shot. So now it's like you show me you can do it, but you haven't shown you can do it on a consistent basis. Yeah. So maybe, maybe Bill, there was a game off, always a maybe that was the game off is game on comes out. I hope so. We just locked down. We just can't pull behind because we're not a catch up team. We're not going to score a bunch of points. That's not how we're put together. Do you see, I think the rhythm on offense was better, the rhythm, things that went like especially the first time, right? I think the rhythm was better. I think you I I think there will be up ticking points this week, we scored 13. Yeah. I think there'll be an uptick in points. I think it's the first time calling plays is probably in all I think I think they'll be up to. Yeah. Everything would stand and being, you know, to be honest with you, I think Dylan's going to have another week under that system to be able to understand that rhythm and what he's looking for, because there were some changes in the scheme to help him kind of be force him out of his habits of throwing the dumpoff passes all the time. Right. Right. And that's where people have to be careful because last year, all three of our quarterbacks used to play kick rocks with the with the football, right? Yeah. So part of the reason why you do the check down is because he values the football. I'm not going to use that against him. I know. But we've how many wide receivers have been wide over the field and we missed a couple, right? We missed a couple. And he'll tell you that, but as an 18, 19 year old freshman, I'd rather you take care of the football than be overzealous with it. But the difference between last year and this year is you had quarterbacks that could escape with their feet, too, which created a dynamic that caused problems for defenses, which this year we don't have that sure. So we need you to be extra special throwing that ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's a unique process. I think if we were what are we five and ten, if we were seven and three, we didn't really care. No, fact that we're five and five. And let's be honest, if it was six and four, we still wouldn't be caring to be caring as much. But now we're looking at a win, a win would change a lot of things. And we shall see. But I'm still hopeful every I think every week I'm hopeful when I think I still think they're going to win the game until proven otherwise, I hope so. I really do. Yeah. And it was constant. Let's let's be honest. That would be a that'd be a cherry on top. I know we've never beat USC, but I don't really care about USC Wisconsin. The only good thing in Wisconsin is brought worse than spotted cow beer. That's it. Cheese. Cheese. Yes. Cheese is great. Yeah. That's it. That's the only good thing in Wisconsin. Big old lumberjacks coming down here. So we got to figure it out, man. I think it's going to be a battle though. Of course you got the big boys Wisconsin is the epitome of what big 10 is. Yeah. Big boys pushing you around trying to run the football with Luke Pickle there. Yeah. Still trying to do that. Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see how they start and how their new coordinator goes about their business. And how we how we just, you know, I think the biggest thing Nebraska can do is take care of your own business and they take care of their own business that'll go a long way to beat Wisconsin. Then you got to make some plays. And it's a last. I mean, there's a senior day. Yeah. That was it. This is last time a lot of those boys are going to be playing in stadium. So I said, I said, if you really, if you care about any of the older guys and it's commendable for those guys to be the one that's been here for a long time, you know, I think they have three coaches. So they probably would nice Mike Frost and then obviously coach rule. It'd be nothing better than those young guys play their best game for them. Yeah. And you know, hopefully lead them to victory or help be a big part of that that'd be pretty special. Yeah. Yeah. Then, you know, then, you know, going to Iowa and being able to be icing on the cake. Now now you're just playing with my emotions. Yeah. Come on. Santa, you know, you can't make promises before Christmas is at the gift you're giving me. I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you beat it. I will tell you boy, it might be that December 16th at the North Walmart might be off the chain. Oh, boy. Yeah. So I mean, I'd be in Wisconsin. We might be able to. So appreciate you stopping in, Bill. We'll have you in more often. Obviously leading up to December 16th and after that in the future. But it's good to have you in, man. It's good insight on football as well. I appreciate you having me on, man. Yeah. And thanks for being on my board. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's a I'm looking forward to the 16th. And so we'll as we get closer and every week we'll keep telling people about it, but we're going to take a quick break. We're old school with my man, Bill. Mr. We'll be right back. We're back, Jay Foreman, DP, Austin Orman, my man, Bill, stay in one more segment here with a quick segment here, Bill. We were talking on the break in Indiana and what they've done. And then obviously a whole landscape of college football. And then we talked a little Colorado, of course, in different schools. And so do you think it's a magic potion? Or do you think it's just by chance you, you know, do you think? Here's the question I want to ask you, do you think college football? Take the, the knowns out the Georgia's, the Ohio State's, or even though Oregon in there, pam a slash Texas. I don't, we don't know yet, but just like the five or 10 or five to 10 knowns. Do you think it'll college football for the rest of the teams will be like two or three year periods where you make that run? So you're talking like the Indiana's and stuff, like, yeah, well, yeah, Indiana's one year. Let's just assume they'll be, they probably might not be 10 and no next year, they'll be, take seven or three. That's still great. You know, people will be like, oh, we're not good is it? But still two year period where you're really doing some great things. Two, three year period. And then, you know, obviously who knows you might lose a coach with transfer portal X, Y, and Z. Yeah, I think it becomes a lot harder with the transfer portal. You stick further than two years. I mean, it's just hard. How do you keep the players in play when, let's be honest, there's tampering. There's a lot of stuff that goes on. How do you keep it all together in this day and age? I mean, coaching now has become 10 times harder than it was during Tom Osborne era as these things you don't worry about. You just did your business. Yeah, you can go anywhere. You just took care of business. And now everything's different. Yeah. So, you know, for the powerhouses, it makes sense because they've been here for how long they were powerhouses before the NIL, they're continue to be the powerhouses because they have the money, they have the national championships, but for programs even like Nebraska, how do you find the way to continue to compete to make yourself relevant and and to do it more than two years? Right. Yeah, it's a tricky. I think the best thing that can happen for schools like Nebraska, say like the middle part of the, the, you know, the, the, the pie or whatever or the ranking is if they become, if there is some sort of collective bargaining when they're, when they're employees, because there will be more, it won't be as one sided. So if I'm paying you NIL and you choose to leave, right, you, whether you get now that they will potentially start getting bonuses, well, then you'll be able to get some of that back. You'll be able to come get money and leave, like, I don't know if you remember the offense lineman that starts for Alabama last night Proctor. He was there. He was, he transferred. He went to Alabama initially, went to Iowa for like a week or two, got like a 150 grand and then went back in the portal went and up back in Bama, well, some of that would be paid back or some of that wouldn't even, you know, you could penalize another school for tampering all that potentially if they're employees, I think it would be a two way street in theory. In reality, for the players, you have to have some union reps, both locally, state, both regionally, conference wise, nationally, holistically, because you're going to be dealing in the world of business that you haven't been dealing with. They've been doing business like this, regardless, now they do want to just a different type of business as far as like the schools and athletic departments, they've been doing business for hundreds of years. You're just getting started. So that's also going to be that's another part of it. But I think just as far as the relationship with players in them and being able to retain guys, guys not getting too comfortable, meaning if I may, if I start out a number three or number two on the depth chart and say, I don't know to say my NIL is 10 bucks for that year, but I outplay $10, then I can go get more and it's probably worth it versus I come in and coming from high school and I'm getting 500 bucks and you know, I play out like I'm worth five bucks and I can go somewhere else and get, I might not get 500, but I'll get another 300. Then I go somewhere else get another 300. So I think that could really help Nebraska, then obviously, you know, obviously getting some guys, it's a weird mix of portal guys with enough time to kind of leave some sort of mark, a good mark on the program, but then also having enough young guys that can also take that and then grow from that as well. Yeah, because you got to have experience. You can't have a full team full of true freshmen running a team or offense shows what a bunch of true freshmen look like out on the field. There's a lot of mistakes because they're all young. So you do need that balance. So I like what you're saying and it will be interesting to see how they're going to navigate that because let's be honest, they didn't navigate the NIL very well when it first came out. I mean, you could have, you could have put things into place that could have protected both sides. So then programs are not losing student athletes all the time, right, because they're frustrated because they feel like they're worth more what whatever, I don't have to prove my value. This is my value. So if you can get some sort of collective bargaining agreement that your value can grow or decline based upon performance, then I think people are going to work harder. Yeah. And I mean, because in that it'll be, it'll create that you're still getting more than I ever got or anybody did eight years ago, so you're working with house money. Now you got to really, really work for it. And that's probably what everybody really wants. And the coaches, I think it'll help coaches. I think it, I think the coaches will be able to coach better, but then also it would also put, I think it would put more pressure on the coaches to coach better too, which is great because they get paid a ton of money too. So yeah, it's hard, it's hard to coach and try to coach hard. And you coach hard and somebody's feelings get hurt. Somebody asked me about feelings like today and I said in sports, there is no feelings. Not a lot. Like you got feelings for your, your family and your kids and stuff, but if it's not personal, there shouldn't be any feelings because it's all about how you play and the expectations. And also a lot of times, if somebody's getting frustrated or coaching you hard, it's because you can be better. Right. Yeah, they're seeing what in you, what you're not putting on, on to the field. Yeah, the product doesn't match that expectation level or even your own a lot of times. It shouldn't. Your expectation level as a player should be way higher than any coach because it's that you should never reach it. Right. You also understand folks coming to college, in most cases have no concept of that until they get here because they've been told for seven, first 17, 18 years of their life that they were special. They went to special camp, special coaches, the mom and dad hugged and gave them every new pair of shoes and every, every girl that that was in place, absolutely hugged on them. It's the mother dudes, the dudes that didn't get those things that tend to listen, we call it dog, but the reality is we're responsible for the product that we keep delivering. Yeah. And at some point, we just have to say, I'm not doing this anymore. Yeah. I mean, that's great. I mean, I think that's great and all that stuff like they've been told that. I mean, that's a, that's the easy excuse. But when you're like, if I was, came in at 17 or 18 and I'm 21, like, I don't want to hear that anymore. So I'm in the line. I did. I ain't trying to hear that. I don't care what you did in seven or seven league, like, and I mean, I, and I get it. It does, it does take some, what Nick Saban used to say, they get them in there and they de-star them pretty much. And they coach out there, you break you down and then build you back up. But part of it is it's not really even when people hear like, Oh, we're going to break freshmen down. Oh, it is just getting you into our system and getting you to kind of walk and chew gum and be involved in the team concept, you're not, you're not hazing them, you're not making them run. You're not, you're not dropping them off in the middle of a corn, you're not doing that stupid stuff that you think you see on the movies really is just more or less getting you here and understanding. Yeah. It was great. You're not taking them to Gettysburg. Yeah. Actually, maybe back in the day, but in reality, you're not doing it. Number one, because they got cell phones in Uber, so you can get, you can get picked up anyway. I just think it's, it's hard for kids sometimes to get into that reality because every lot of kids right now love getting recruited, not a love, not a lot of them love to play. Yeah. That's why the portal is so appealing because you can go in the, in the portal and get ice cream and cupcakes. Well, and the sooner or later that stuff spoils though, and your stomach starts to hurt. But how do you, how do you coach and, and be able to give a reality check to some of these kids and really bench them if they need to be bench because they're not playing to that five star or four star, whatever level. So if it's, but here's the thing, you, you're worried that if I am too hard on you, where you going. That's fine. Because if you're thinking about leaving because you played bad, like, how many coaches in reality though are scared of that scenario? I'm pretty sure it crosses their mind and you don't want guys to leave. So it does cross your mind, but everybody's been pulled, Michael George has been pulled from a game. Phil Jackson's pulled him, Doug Collins pulled him, LeBron's been pulled. Yeah, I know, but you're going, but you're going back a little way. Okay. Okay. I mean, Tom Brady's been pulled clay Thompson was like we can, we can lean in that. Correct. Yeah. Right now it's been pulled. Right. Everybody's been pulled. But that's not a problem. What the problem is if you get pulled and you just go on, you just, they will never give you a chance to be back. Now if you're going to leave, I truly, if you get coach hard and you want to leave, like where are you going to go? I mean, so where are you going to go? Like you're going to go play for Nick Saban or Kirby Smart or Steve Sarkey. Listen, Arch Manning went in the game and was playing scrub time and he made three or four mistakes in a row, Steve Sarkey just went off him off the, and he wasn't even a starter. Okay. Highly paid backup though. Sure. Hold on. Did he go? No. Okay, then. No, but to be honest with you, let's be honest. Do you think that family's going to allow him to be entitled like that and stomp his feet and leave? Yes. You think that would happen? That's what, that's what granddaddy did for his, for his uncle. But that's granddaddy, but I don't think his dad would do that. His dad. Cooper. You talking about Cooper, Mary? What are you talking about? You talking about Cooper? Because you remember, remember Archie told seven teams do not draft my son because I think he's better than you. Oh, you're talking Peyton. I'm talking large. Yeah. I'm the, here's my thing. I think it's in the same family and that he has a different standard already in that he's got to live up to a name that exists. And that part of it, how that family works, bravo, whatever they do, keep doing what you do. It's like the ball family. I don't have to agree with it, but they, the youngest one has to pay the price of all the older ones. And it's, it's interesting times. Yeah. I just think, I don't, I don't think he'd leave. I think they, you know, he ain't played good. And if you know Cooper, Manny, he talking to him worse than that. Because Cooper, besides Peyton in the, in the Eli, he didn't want to have the most dog in him. Yeah. He don't want to then play quarterback. So I mean, I, it's part of the deal. It sucks. But we got to go to break man. Austin's over here breaking this, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, reluctantly. Anyway, J for a DP bill, Austin will be right back. Hello. Yeah. You're going to have to, Austin, you're going to have to be the guy at, at the airport with it. You got to land this ship in three minutes. You got to get this. You got to get this thing into the port and in three minutes, bro. Tell us that in warrens that we're having good conversation two minutes and 40 seconds off to know. I mean, you tell Tom she should tell this. I saw him in the Omar airport and I gave him the universal what's up and he kept it moving. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was during the season. Whoo. Dang. He was being, Tom should tell, but he was going, so he was, he was being taught how to write something nasty about you or something back in the day. You're, you're, Tom good. Yeah, we're good. I like Tom. Well, it's better than him and, him and simple because he, and Jay, still a little better that simple never wrote about him. Cal. He never, he never, he still, oh, no, he did, no, he did. No, he did. No, he did. No, he did. No, he did. Nossing about it. He was like, yeah, you are. All right. Can I get out of my face, man? Yeah. We're coming from Rudy. Coming from Rudy. It's like simple. You're five foot nothing. You wear a hundred and nothing. Hey, hey, hey. The best part, Bill. He kind of started like, yeah, you were okay. Yeah. At some point. Man, simple almost got DDT. That's, that's my thing. You, somebody once told him he was a great boxer and a pretty good athlete and he believed it. And he's these people boxing, he got big, he got a little like a hard hit. Don't again, you got that. That's right. He's got a hard head or not. This, this movie is not called Rudy with me. Come on. Anyway, it's a good show, man. Pretty bill. 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