The Daily Mind

Season 17. Episode 411: Conspiracy theories revisited

Originally i've done an episode on conspiracy theories on July 13, 2023 during season 9. By request for Tik Tok, I go back and revisit some famous theories this time with live guest! Tune in!

Tik Tok episode 27. Season 2: @austin.edwards070

Duration:: 1h 31m
Broadcast on:: 20 Nov 2024
Audio Format:: other

(upbeat music) (applause) - Hey, what's going on everybody? Good evening, good evening. Welcome to a brand new episode of The Daily Mind Podcast. I know it's been a few days. I feel like it's been a whole week. It's only just been a few days. Hopefully everybody had a good weekend. Hopefully you got everything you needed to get done and hopefully you got a good week going so far. Hopefully you got some big plans. I mean, we're almost about a week out from Thanksgiving where everybody could get their grub on and eat and shit. And then the next day you guys can stop each other out trying to get a TV. That's on sale that you're only going to return later on and then Cyber Monday or whatever the fuck that shit's called. I know probably not a lot of people go out and do Black Friday anymore. There's still a lot of people. I think there's a lot of, it's fun still getting up early in the morning to do it. But I guess nowadays people just kind of avoid that all together and just deal with Cyber Monday. It's just safer, saves gas, more convenient, just to click and send and that's it. But I don't know, I don't do the whole Black Friday. The last time I went with a buddy about a few years ago, we went out just to see what everything was like. It's not like how it used to be where everybody was just going bananas. You know what I mean? That whole Black Friday hype died down a bit. People used to get hurt. Some people got killed. And nowadays it's not as crazy as it is. Hey, XWYZ, hey, thanks for joining. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Tonight I'm going to talk about, well actually I'm jumping a little too far ahead. Anyway, my day is pretty good so far. Still trying to put some things together. In fact, I have a big announcement coming up soon with the show. All right, Gary, what's going on? You said you went last year and the deals were just terrible. I mean, Black Friday, real quick, is not what it used to be like. Honestly, you know, a lot of people say, hey, the prices you see are not the real prices. And I think people are just starting to lean more towards Cyber Monday, which I believe you get better deals nowadays. Not everybody's like willing to get up four o'clock in the morning to wait for a door to open and go get a TV or whatever. It's not the same anymore. It really is it though. But who knows what this year will bring? It's, you know, I think it's still just kind of like the hype of Black Friday starting to die down. Anyway, let's see. So my day is well, the week is going by good so far. We're almost at things given. Anywho, tonight's episode is actually a re-reiteration actually. A buddy of mine wanted me to do a episode on conspiracy theories. Now, I've done an episode on conspiracy theories way back when, at least about a year or so, but it was actually one of my first few seasons I've done one on conspiracy theories. And he wanted me to do one and I'd never done one for TikTok. And it also gave me the idea to re-introduce a lot of my best episodes and topics for TikTok. 'Cause at the time I did it, I was just an audio podcast. I was not streaming yet. Now that I am, I feel like some of those topics, I think will be great, especially with you all that is watching, you guys will interact and talk and whatever the case is, disagree, agree. You know, that's always the best part. And since I've been doing this on TikTok, it's been, I've been getting like mass participation, which is always a good thing. Anyway, so tonight I wanna talk about conspiracy theories. God, we all have them. Some people wear the tin foil hat a little too tight though. You know, I understand what I'm saying, like, I think everybody has a bit of a conspiracy theorist in them. But some people, they take it way, way too far to try to prove something that otherwise they're not gonna be able to prove, but you know, they have their suspicion. I think nowadays, especially with the internet, the way it is, I think a lot more people are now on a digital platform to speak out what they feel is not right, something that's out of whack. 'Cause I know when 9/11 happened, and thank you very much for the gifts, right, Minville. I'm gonna shout out people as I go along. If you got things you wanna promote on the show too, absolutely, we'll do that more towards the end of the show, of course. But thank you for the gifts, I appreciate it. I'll shoot you guys out as you go along. But I remember when 9/11 happened, right? Now the internet was available, but it wasn't like what it is now. Like social media was not a thing yet. You only had like instant messenger and shit like that. They didn't really have like Facebook, Snapchat, TikTok. There wasn't much, you know? At the time, I remember when 9/11 happened, I was in high school. And I just remember everybody was just super patriotic. They were flags everywhere. People were just, people were much nicer at that time. You know, it was the one time I could remember the country actually came together. But with the evolution of the internet, YouTube, and of course, social media is like Facebook, MySpace at the time, anyway. People started to speak out, 'cause I'm pretty sure everybody had their conspiracies at the time and just, they didn't have a platform to say it on, they just talked about it among their friends. However though, the internet the way it is now, conspiracy theories are published, damn it, every day. Every little thing that happens is either a red flag or it's just a conspiracy, you know what I mean? The most recent, of course, being the pandemic, right? It's still very fresh. And even now, it's still kind of sort of taboo to talk about in terms of conspiracies. You know, there's a lot of somewhat censorship and shit like that. So I gotta be careful too, 'cause who knows? I've been getting flagged and shit about things I've said and done, who knows, man? And I have to be a little bit careful. (laughs) All right, who's that Jose Lewis, chill guy, meme coin to the moon. And I did an episode on Dogecoin and shit just a few days ago, man. I got a good feeling if you're investing in cryptos, I got a really good feeling, man. Hopefully it gets somewhere. All right, Tommy.co, hey, welcome to the show, man. Glad to see you on here again, talking about conspiracy theories tonight. So if you are a conspiracy theorist or not, whatever, like stick around, you know, I think it'll be a good episode. All right, so this was me just doing this episode again. Again, a friend, a buddy of mine was like, hey, you need to do one. I'm gonna rehash it. And if I'm gonna invite Tommy right now to the show, he's a regular. Hey, what's going on, Tommy? Hey, you there? - Hello? - Hey, you there? Oh, there you go. Let me turn my phone a little bit. - If you don't mind, I already got a crazy theory, all that. - All right, but hey, before I get on the list, I'm gonna have Tommy give me one of his conspiracy theories. And again, people, I always encourage mass participation. I would love to hear your theories about what's going on and what has happened. And, you know, I would love to hear it all. So I'm gonna give Tommy the floor. Before I start the list, he's gonna give me a conspiracy theory he already had cooked up. All right, Tommy, what you got? - All right, so Pete, first off, what I wanna start with is with presidential policies, okay? First off, the one thing we know is no presidential policy is gonna happen exactly when the president hits office, right? - Okay. - It's gonna take, it's gonna take a couple years to, you know, go into enactment and all of that, okay? - Okay. - So follow me. - Follow me. - Starting from 2016. Now, I'm not saying Obama was a good president. I don't think anybody in the political system, I've said this time and time again, I don't think anybody in the political system is there for the general public's well-being. They're not, at least in this point in time. But, okay, let's think about it. From back when Obama left office, okay, Trump took office, right? The stock market started to boom. But we know those couple years was from the policies that was left from the Obama administration. So, all of that had our economy going crazy, all of that good stuff. Now. - Almost there? - We're good. - Yeah. - I don't know if you're switching. - Oh yeah. - Okay, so from there, you know, everybody was like, the common, I don't wanna say common folk, but the people that understand what's going on, they know that it's not necessarily, like, yes, it is Obama's administration, but the people that are actually moving the market, they know common folk are gonna sit there, and because Trump has, you know, a crazy, what do you call, a cult-like group, pretty much, if you will. - Kind of like a falling, a cult-following, yeah, yeah. - They have a, he has a crazy following, yeah, a cult-like following. So, they pushed it, the market keep going, and everybody in this cult-like following was like, oh, Trump took presidency, markets going up, all that crazy stuff, right? All that good stuff. Now, Trump put in these policies, all of that, okay? Back in, this is how, this is fast forward to 2020. When he left office, Biden took on those policies, okay? A lot of people, they don't know how that works. So, they're just thinking, as soon as Biden takes office, now that the stock market's going down, now that we're in war, now that all this other shit's happening, that Biden's the reason, because he's president at that moment, even though they don't understand that it was partially Biden, but also very much so, Trump leaving certain policies back in place when he was president a couple years before, and went through there, right? Okay, fast forward, fast forward. Now, we all know, we're in a bubble market. If anybody looking at the market right now and is trying to tell us that we're in a decent position to keep going, you're crazy. - I'm sorry, I'm gonna think of that too, yeah. - We're in a bubble market. I'm not saying don't ride the wave. Fuck yeah, eat this, it's straight up trimmed up. Take what money you can on the upside. - Oh yeah, I need it. - For you not to know there's risk associated in investing at this point is absolutely crazy, like you got to be tight on it. But anyways, so Biden took presidency, okay? Start stock market the first two years of his presidency was going down. During that, all of the Trump policies were in fact, all of that shit happened, start market went down, war happened, all that crazy shit. - Okay. - Towards the end of Biden, when his original policies started hitting effect and to his, at the end of his presidency, we started seeing the market come up. Again, I don't fuck with Biden, I don't fuck with any president, I'm just stating how the market reacted to whatever policies they had in place. - Now, here's the thing, like the markets, they react to no matter who is in and out of the office. It's been like that for since the start - They do, the market reflects the rich man's pocket. That's just any rich man's pocket. So if rich people are doing good like poor people, the middle class, poor class can be doing great. - Yeah. - Sorry, could be doing horrible, but the stock market could be still hitting all time highs like is what we're seeing right now, you know? - I mean, we just only get the little piece of the pie. I mean, that's why we afforded the opportunity to buy shares of a company because once a company goes public, it's like, hey, you know, and all it really does is when you buy stocks and shares of a company, you're raising money for that company so that they could fund whatever they're possibly funding. I mean, that's it, you just get a little piece. Now, that's understandable. - So let me, I just want to wrap this up real quick. All right, so the policies in place from Biden's administration, okay, stock market, the economy started going up towards the end, whatever. Now, Trump is taking office, okay? - Okay, yeah. - All the policies that Biden has in place now, personally, again, not picking aside, I don't fuck with Trump, I don't fuck with Biden, I don't fuck with Kamala, I don't fuck with any of them. But personally, I think the policies that are in place are gonna make the stock market and the economy go up for the next year to year and a half to two years, okay? So this is a far out, this is a super far out conspiracy. So the next year to two years, I could see us being in whoop-de-do, everything's fine, Trump's in office, let's run the economy up because Trump's gonna be our savior. But what do we know if you've been in the stock market ever? It catches you when it's least expected. - I mean, that's not what it looks like. - Just like Trump was the reason we went in a bull market back in 2020 and back in 2016 and 2018, whatever. - Yeah. - He's gonna be the reason we crash in 2026, 2027. I can almost fucking guarantee it. - I can hope not, but you're also real quick. - Hope not, I hope not, but we need to reset. You can't tell me the stock market need doesn't need to reset right now. - No, I mean, no, I don't think it needs to reset. However, though, there's also geopolitical things that can get in the way and change everything. Hold on, I think I got another guest coming in. Oh, I think I got Mahal coming in. Hold on, one sec. Hey, what's going on, man? Hey, you there? Oh, he's, he's buffering. - Yeah. - Oh, hey, hey. - Hey, awesome. - Hey, what's going on? Hey, we're talking about conspiracy theories. I had Tommy here, he was given a conspiracy of where he thinks or where he sees the stock market in the next couple of years and stuff like that. And also, I'm gonna go into a list of conspiracy theories. Now, you've been around for a while, Mahal. I'm not trying to say you're old or anything, but you've been around for a bit, so I'm pretty sure you have your speculations and you've seen some pretty historical stuff in your time. - Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you know, a lot of stuff, you know, like Bill Clinton and all that, you know. - Oh, yeah. - Other stuff that happens, you know. - No, I believe me. I've been on this Earth for like 39 years, so as I was born, it was, you know, the fall of the Berlin Wall, it was 9/11, it's close to it, there's so many things. And again, like I said, you know, the stock market, it's always a bubble. I know Japan had a, they're bubble burst in like 1992, but I forgot what influenced that, but I mean, the stock market, it's, you can't always expect it to be up. It's always gonna be down, it's gonna go up and down, depending on who's in author's. - Also a coaster. - Yeah, and what's going on around the world as well. But right now, I'm gonna get into that list of conspiracy theories, so I got the first one, and I appreciate your input, Tommy. I mean, hopefully though, everything sticks around. I got money invested too. All right, so hey, the first theory I got is, I don't know if you guys heard of this one, the dead internet conspiracy theory. Does it ring a bell yet? Okay, so you heard of the dead internet? - No, I never heard of it. - Oh, you never heard of it. - No, no, I've heard of it, but I think this is gonna kind of expand my knowledge on what it means. - Yeah, it basically just says like the internet is fake, it's not real. I mean, it says here, the dead internet theory first surfaced in a form in 2021, where they started calling the dead internet theory, where most of the internet is fake. At the top level, the concept is that AI and chatbots automatically turn out social media posts designed to farm clicks. I believe this. - What? - No, yeah. - I believe this wholeheartedly, I think AI has like, I think we're starting to hear AI a lot more nowadays, but at the same time, it's been around for a while, and I'm gonna answer this question real quick. I got somebody by the name of TT Guas. Hey, what's going on, TT? Now, you're asking me a question, I told the topic, but I'm always willing to answer. Who do you think-- - R Kelly, R Kelly. - R Kelly or Diddy, who will win in a fight? I will honestly say R Kelly, without a doubt. I mean, come on, man. - Look at the butt, look, not to mention the fact that R Kelly's gonna lose his signature purse on Diddy. - Yeah, but if Diddy is covered in lube, it'll be hard to grab him. - The size, look at the size difference. Diddy is a solid 25 to 30 percent body fat. R Kelly, I'm not gonna lie, that's a big dude, and he's low-key swole. - Hey, but I'm saying, if Diddy oils him up, it'll be hard for R Kelly to grab him. - Hey, hey, if I peep this, R Kelly been in the pain longer than Diddy. I think R Kelly used to be oiling, oiled up more than Diddy. - One shot in the throat, and he's gone. - Who's in, who in the throat, though? That's the crazy part. I mean, you know, R Kelly's kind of tall. You know, Diddy, he's not as tall, I think. Shit. - No, R Kelly. - R Kelly's sweets. R Kelly's sweets. - R Kelly's sweets. - R Kelly's sweet though. - I was gonna say this-- - The curfew theory is talking about Diddy and, and, oh, Kelly. - The show bounces all over the place. Don't worry, we're getting back on track though. I mean, the dead internet theory, AI, what's up? - Yeah, so what I was gonna say with this is, basically that is like, the dead internet theory didn't really come up until AI became a thing. And so what I related to is like, think of, a lot of my old time as well know, so Reddit is kind of the new thing, but 4chan back in the day. - Oh, 4chan, yeah. - You would have a post, you would have a post, right? - Yeah. - Someone would say something, it would seem kind of intelligent and everybody would just spread it again and again and again and again and again and again. Now it'd become like an echo chamber. You know? - No, yeah, you're really back. - But I can relate an echo chamber with people being dead internet for AI. - That's true, because that's really what it is. It's AI just reposting things that AI thinks will get clicked, clicked, or whatever, and then it just ends up being dead. It's just, you know, you end up on a post and you're like, "The fuck did I just see?" And it's got one or two lives. - Yeah, Mahal, you were gonna say something as well. I mean, what's your take on the internet? You think it's all AI control? - I think so, 'cause come on, look, back in the day, it was just dial up, right? There was no internet, you know? And then all of a sudden this internet thing came up, you know? And I think you're letting AI control too much, though. I think it's gonna go too far. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - I think we got into it. - No, exactly, I like that movie. - Yup. - No, I think Mahal is right. I think we have definitely got into the point, like this is coming from someone that's younger and like loves the fact that we're progressing, you know, technology-wise in society. But I think we've got to the point where we're letting too many things controlled by AI, where it can become that singularity, you know, where it can create its own mind, its own preference, which if you all see in the news all the time, like almost every other week now, there's some major fucking AI bot that comes out and goes, "Oh, because I hate you." - I'm putting the shit in the cars now, too. - It's in your phones, too, I mean, it's everywhere. - I'm not, I'm telling you right now, I will never switch to an all electric car, I promise you. - I'm not either. - 'Cause not now? I don't think we're there now. - Yeah. - But in 10 years, 20 years from now, where it's like the car only runs on an electric and it drives itself and all of that, I can 100% see somebody being able to hack it and just send you off the fucking rails and rob you. - Somebody's already done it. Somebody has already proved that a car, an electric car, or any, it could be even a gas car 'cause a lot of these cars rely on computers and- - They're hybrid. - And they're hybrid. It's a drive-by technology. It's kind of similar to the fly-live, when an airplane, where everything's computerized and not analog, you can hack an electric car and you can have that shit do ridiculous things. Like even Tesla's, Tesla's lately have been known to lock the doors or completely brick the car. And- - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, you got it. - No, that's just what I'm saying. That's very, very, very, proves the point that me and you both were saying is like, especially if you're in a position in power, like, you're gonna sit there in a car that's gonna be able to control you. And if someone has bad intentions on you, it's not gonna be that, like it's not that hard to find a piece, the hijacks an electric car. It's like 60 bucks on Amazon, if you know what you're looking for. - It's even on the TVs too, I was talking to my wife about medicines and drugs and stuff like that. And all of a sudden, like the drug that I'm talking about comes up in a commercial. It's kinda hard to do that, happens like that, you know? - No, that shit's so real. That shit, like, I swear to God, especially, like, I mean, obviously, we know TikTok is the most, like, it's listening to everything. - Right, of course. - You fucking, you see here and speak on a subject, you'll get that, that whatever you were speaking on in your phone, TV, whatever can actually hear it because they know that's what your attention's gonna go to. So you're gonna spend the most time looking at that product that you were talking about or whatever. - But see, here's the thing. When you get a, when you, with your cell phone, real quick before I move on to the next thing, is you can turn the microphone off your phone because the microphone, if you have it activated on the phone, it's gonna pick up everything and then you go on your Facebook feed and you just was talking to me about McDonald's to a buddy or something. And then you look on Facebook, there's an ad for McDonald's, you could cut it off, but there's times, if not most, you're gonna need the mic for your phone for like, if you do like, I don't know, you Siri or whatever the fuck Google uses. So, and then the TV, the TV can listen to you. There is a built-in, I'm sure, mic or something like that. - And you think these companies don't know that? They're betting on that. That's the problem is these companies are betting on the fact that they're giving us utilities that we need to use, but also implementing things that they can learn from us. I'm not saying like, what they're doing necessarily isn't wrong, like it makes sense. It makes sense, obviously, a company like Apple, a multi-billion dollar company, almost trillion dollar company, is gonna wanna implement some sort of software where they can see their users and what they like about the app and how they like it. And not just on a, oh, fill out this survey and tell me what you like, more on a personal level. Like, where do you score, how do you go to that? That makes sense. But the problem is, they're not, they're not just differentiating. Is that the right word, differentiating? - No, you got it, yeah. I'd say differentiating. - Yeah, from business and what they need from invading personal space, that's the problem. A lot of normal people, they're not thinking like Apple is. Obviously a company that's multi-billion of billions of dollars is gonna think, oh, let's implement these softwares, but the users that are buying it are only thinking, hey, I just need an iPhone. That's got good camera, got good HD and all that stuff. And next thing they know, they're gonna fucking listen to 24/7, so the products that they're talking about gets shoved in their face all the time. - But nobody's gonna dispute it because I think it's the technology they need and not the technology they want. But I mean, as long people just think it's gonna make it easier, like the refrigerator can talk or your refrigerator has Wi-Fi, you can sit there and look on fucking, you can watch TikTok videos when you're fridge and people think that shit is okay. I mean, it's not. A refrigerator is meant to keep your food fresh as long as possible. But I'm gonna move on from AI though, and I'm gonna go to the big one now. There's no, I'm just going down in order. And I think this one, this one to this day still have people talking and it's still very fresh. The 9/11 conspiracies, I did an episode before TikTok about 9/11. And I went over some facts about the World Trade Center and some of the conspiracy theories. Now, I'm gonna read a little bit of this and we're gonna jump right into 9/11 because this one here, this has been a smoking gun for a long time, way too long. It says, now the evidence is overwhelming that the terrorist attacks of September 11 were indeed the result of a conspiracy. A conspiracy of Osama bin Laden and a crew of mostly Saudi hijackers. Now, I'm not gonna read too much into it. I'm gonna kind of break it down. Now, it says here that a 2006 Nova documentary debunked the claims about jet fuel melting steel beams. And it says that, in fact, it's quite possible for the columns holding up skyscrapers to fail catastrophically when exposed to fires burning on multiple floors. It also said something about some anti-Semitic tropes. As well, I've heard countless fucking theories on this. So let me get some insight. What do you guys think on 9/11? - Well, I'll tell you the truth. You know, 9/11's a tough subject for me because I lost a lot of people there. I was a fireman at one time. - I was a fireman. - Yeah, and I think they said that, I think they knew that it was gonna happen, but it just kind of didn't really act on it fast enough. - Yeah, yeah. - And it just said that innocent people that died in that tower, you know? Not even soldiers and stuff like that. Just innocent bystanders. Every day people were. - You know? - Yeah. I mean, for what I've heard, they've had intel of something happening. 'Cause remember, the World Trade Center was attacked the first time. This is not the first, it was attacked the first time. And it did take a few lives, but none as nearly as 9/11. And they've been collecting intel for a long time on this. And it goes with a lot of things that happen. Like, why didn't we catch this red flag sooner? Why didn't we do more to prevent this from happening? And such and such and such and such. You know, I find it even crazy that how can four planes be taken at the same time? In the most orchestrated way. It's still kind of just, 'cause I was in New York at the time, and I can tell you that day was chaotic. I still remember that day. Like, I wasn't like, I went to school in Brooklyn, but it wasn't near the towers. I didn't see the towers getting hit or fall, but I remember how chaotic that day was, especially since cell phones wasn't all over the place. But I remember the land lines and whatever cell phone people had was tied up. It was gone. But I've heard so much, like, how can this possibly happen in that sort of orchestrated manner? You know what I mean? Tommy, what you got? - I think Tommy's, you did it. - All right, well, well, well, here. - I'm here. - Okay, yeah. - Oh, you're there, okay. - All right, 9/11. 9/11, that's the next one right now. - What do you also have that? What are my thoughts on what? - 9/11, that's the one we're going over right now. - What are my thoughts on it? - As far as conspiracies, like, I mean, you're pretty young. You were probably, how old are you? - No, I got you. I've already dug, I've gone down this rabbit hole. - Okay. - I've even seen it. - All right. - Actually, I got you. - 22. - I'm 22. - Okay, so nonetheless though, I'm pretty sure even as you, you know, the age that you are, you've heard things coming up. So I mean, what you got? - No, honestly, I'm not lying. - It's a tough one. I know, I know, hey, it's a tough one, even from my heart. - All I can say is I'll have to go over the documentary that I watched for. - Might just be a good set job. - There's many documentaries though. I mean, you got to choose one of many. - I'll just be, no, no, no, I know. I've watched like three, but there's one in particular that really opened up my eye. The first thing that happened, it was a band that went in there and exploded down into like the basement or something, right? - Yeah, yeah, that was a truck in the basement or a van. Van on truck. - Right, but I'm sorry, Tommy, get ahead. I didn't mean to cut it out. - No, no, no, no. You're just kind of solidifying what I was going to say. I'm telling you, I think it was an inside job. - I mean, I mean, I think so as unfortunate as that may sound, I think there's a lot of variables, such as the owner of the building taking out an insurance policy of one to $2 billion about a month or so prior. - That was the biggest thing that I opened up that the fucking literally, what, two days before, if that, like a day before? And during the time, now there's a lot more open up for bigger, but during the time, that was one of the biggest open insurance accounts ever. - Yeah, and it was crazy too. I think I'll tell you, another one was building seven. Now, building seven fell just a few hours after the towers did, but it suffered some damage from the falling towers, but not enough to constitute the whole thing falling. So the conspiracy behind that was that building seven had stored a lot of very, very secret stuff. And somehow the building had to go too, because that building just fell out of nowhere. There was no indication that the building was going to fall, it just fell. And it fell in the same manner as the towers. - And this is funny too, how after that, they hit the Pentagon, too. They drove one of the, you know, a plane in the Pentagon and crashed it, and it's just so weird that they picked these major places to hit, you know? - Well, I think, hey, appreciate the hat, Tommy. No, but I think the one that was, well, okay, that reminds me, the one in Pennsylvania that they said crashed in route to DC, but a lot of people speculate over the years that it was actually shot down, because if you look at Shawshank, Pennsylvania, at the crash site, there was no pieces of the plane, fuselage, anything of that sort, that would indicate just a regular crash. It was just a crater, but that plane was apparently in route to DC that day as well. And I think it was supposed to, it was in route to either the Capitol building or it was in route to the White House. - Okay, it was a very shared day for everybody. Not it is, and I think it's still very touchy, even though it's been about now, I think 22 years. It's still very touchy, especially to a lot of New Yorkers. I think a lot of New Yorkers, even now, is still triggered by, or even the idea of a tall building burning and stuff like that. That's why I said that one is a tough pill, just like the pandemic, which we're just now finishing. And that's still a touchy one, but not 11. There's too many variables that point to it being somewhat orchestrated, but there's, we won't know that. - It's a stay, the whole world's staged. Everybody knows it, man. - But it's always a collateral damage collected for a bigger game because a lot of people compared it to Pearl Harbor. And a lot of people said that Pearl Harbor was set up for us to enter the war officially, because when Pearl Harbor happened, we were not officially in the war yet. We were just supplying our allies. But when Pearl Harbor happened, it brought us full fledge into it. So people were like, well, we provoked the Japanese by cutting off their oil supply, and it was a way to get us into the war. It was like poking the bear, rather. - So this is my... - Yeah, go ahead. - No, no, no, I'm basically saying like we drag, we had to provoke them to get us in the war by cutting off the oil supply and then they came and attacked us. And it was like, hey, people were like, oh, well, we did that so we could get in the war because we weren't officially in yet. But what were you going to say? - No, I was just going to say, so my kind of like playing devil's advocate here onto that, what you were saying is more so like, one, instruction from Pearl Harbor, if you think about like the Navy ships that they hit. - Yeah. - We're talking at the time, not even now, but at that time, millions and millions and millions of dollars of like... - Of ships, yeah. - Of ships, equipment, all of that. Like that, that was a lot of money. We're not going to gain that back, gain that back off of attacking another city, that's just, we're not going to get those millions of dollars back. You know, that was just kind of, in my opinion, that was kind of one of those moments where it was just like, if fucking happened, this sucks and did it, did it send us into that war? Like we wanted to get into the back, obviously. We wanted to show people, hey, it's a message. Don't fuck with America. Well, unfortunately, literally blow up your whole fucking population. - Which we damn near did because again, - Which we did. - The Japanese fucked up because there was one particular spot they didn't hit that would have kept us, which would have delayed our entry into the Pacific a lot more. They forgot to hit the oil depots in Pearl Harbor. And a lot of people speculated that the ships, the way they were lined up were done purposely for the act to take place on that Sunday morning. But yeah, there was no way of telling like, again, they thought it was a flock of birds showing up on the radar, which was still new at the time when it was indeed just a bunch of Japanese. - And again, this is kind of my thing. Honestly, like in this situation, I think we got hit way too hard at the beginning for it to be orchestrated. Like that, that was just kind of like, we had all, I mean, and again, this is before like, it's not that long ago, but before we really had war tactics, how to kind of set up certain areas and all of that, we kept all of our most important ships in the fucking Pearl Harbor. That's just what it was. - Well, here's a new that. Here's a new adventure. - Here's a known fact though. Do you know who had the biggest navy at the time? - I'm assuming in Japanese. - Yeah, no, the Japanese had the biggest navy at that time. They can pretty much have overdone us. If they would have completely engulfed Pearl Harbor and what the comment of the territory of Hawaii. - No, they could have, they could have, like I, that's what I'm confused about is that's the one thing that like with my theory, it throws me over. So I'll finish it and I'll explain why it throws me over. So all right, they hit us way too hard at the beginning. Okay, call us off guard. America is in general, not gonna let that happen. And they're gonna get their get back, which we did. What happened right after? Bomb the shit out of them. But I don't think it was orchestrated for anything because it was so quick. They hit us, we hit them. That was good game. It's over. And then since then we've really been fighting, what is it, Middle East Wars, proxy wars, shit like that. - Yeah, we don't do real wars anymore. We have everybody else fighting courts. - It's mainly proxy wars and stuff like that. If we're sending troops, it's to the Middle East for things that we know we can take over. But honestly, the Middle East is over too 'cause we already got all the oil out of there. - Not even, I mean after that. The Afghan war, it was over back in 2021 when they had that crazy ass exodus of people trying to jump on that plane and whatnot. We're done with Afghanistan. There's nothing left. We got-- - You wanna know why? - And that's it. - You wanna know why? - All right, what you got? - The oil that sucked dry. Not in the oil that sucked dry. We just set our stations in. It got our capitalists up in their little areas and we got them established. - We basically made our money. That's, war is a racket, war is a business. - Why do you think gas went down for $4 to fucking under two in the South, down here? I can't speak for a lot more. - Now, if you're talking about during a pandemic, it's really because nobody can fucking go out anywhere. People have to stay inside. And unfortunately, a lot of people, real quick before I move on to the next one, a lot of people wanted to contribute this to when Donald Trump was in the first time. But in reality, if you have everybody on a lockdown and nobody can drive and go anywhere, that the man for the oil and gas will drop. - No, no, no, it is, I will 100% agree with you here. It definitely, it contributes for both. Kind of that presidency during a fuck time. But if you look, there's a graph and I'll send it to you in our DMs after this. But there's a link to a graph and you'll see it when you click on it. But their first kernels of like major, not major inflation, what is it called? Hyperinflation was in at the end of 2018 in the beginning of 2019 before COVID was even really thought of or anything. And during that time, what happened was, and again, I'm not for Trump. I don't give a fuck about any of them. I'm not saying Trump is bad president because of this. I'm just stating this is what happened. This is how I can explain this several terms. His oil buddies called him up, right? They hit him up and said, "Hey, Trump, "we're getting fucking mucked at gas being "a $1.87 gallon right now. "We need you to do something in order to help us out." - Okay. - And one thing about Trump, if you guys don't know, he is huge in real estate and he is huge in oil. He's a typhoon. Those are his two biggest industries, okay? So when they called him and hit it, (coughs) when they called him and hit him up and not, he, I don't know what exact deal he made. I can't say here and say, "Oh, I'll give you 30% for the next four years, "whatever the fuck, whatever deal he made." But from that point on to there, we went from our, again, Biden and Trump, both between the two of them, between the two presidencies, the national debt went from 14.7 trillion. It is now almost at 35 trillion. - And it's gonna keep going up. I mean-- - And it's gonna keep going up. Oh, no, no, no. Every president after that, we're in the point where every president after this, even if they're good, it's gonna, it's, we're fucked. It's gonna keep going up. But, but before, before I even get there. Okay. He made a deal. - But you gotta-- - I don't want to talk to that, Tom. - Yeah. - I don't want it. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I don't, I don't want to make it, I don't want to make it like this, this one deal didn't make or break the whole national debt or anything, but this is, this is kind of the, the kernel or the seeds that set in for it. - Okay. - He made the deal with them. And then from them, we saw Gasco from under $2. - Up to when Biden took presidency, right around, I think, I think it peaked, at least in the South, I saw it down here in Georgia at like 4.30. - Yeah, I'm here in Tennessee. I seen that shit hit, it hit the day it hit $4. I took a picture, I got to look in my pictures, but I remember right here, even though in the military post, I was like, oh my God, I thought I'd never see it. And you think it was bad? Fucking California was at five and six. One place, I think, had eight. And that place was accused of price gouging. - My boys in Washington were crying. They were like, bro, why the fuck is my gas? Almost, it was like 490 in Washington. He was like, bro, why is my gas like this? I was like, I don't know, it's just the kind of, but where I was going with that is, so I didn't sit in with that, right? But that was the first, in anything in life, there's a reaction to an action. That was the domino effect that set all the other supply chains to kind of try to meet those demands. And then from there, it just kind of tumbled. - I got to remember too, Bush was involved in oil business, big man. Also Hunter Biden and Joe Biden had their finger stay, which is that whole big thing about Biden and Hunter too, doing some deals, you know? - So that's, yeah, no, no, no, you bring up a good point. So I don't even know, this is the whole thing that confuses me, I don't know shit about the Hunter Biden, like in any of that, but I know he had his finger, like I know he plays a big part in this. - No, a lot of people do, a lot of people do, isn't it? - I just don't know what specifically, so yeah, do y'all wanna dive in deeper in that? - No, no, no, we're gonna move on from Hunter and Biden, but no, we could go down to rabbit hole with a lot of these, but I still got some more stuff to read though. Oh, let me give a shout out to Captain James 994, executive producer, as usual, joining in, sending gifts and stuff like that, share the live, try to get some more people on, okay? Oh, Tommy, your pause, but he'll be back. All right, I'm gonna move on to, I don't know, this one here, Princess, you guys heard of Princess, I know, Mahal, you heard of Princess Diana, right? I know you have. - Yeah. - Okay, now a lot of people have been speculating that Princess Diana was assassinated more or less, rather than it looking like a regular crash. Now, I'm gonna go into it real quick, what, what's that one? See, my wife thinks he was assassinated, now it says what? - No, she was, that was my lover. - Oh, whoa, whoa, you weren't even born yet? (laughing) - No, no, no, no, no, no. - Oh, shit, hold on, I'm gonna get into it real quick and it will start digging in it 'cause there's still some other conspiracies. I know, I knew this was gonna be a very interactive episode because we, I'm not even like halfway through this shit, but anyway, it says within hours of Princess Diana's death, on August 31st, 1997, in the Paris Highway Tunnel, conspiracy theories swirled, as was the case with the death of JFK. The idea that such a beloved high-profile figure could be killed so suddenly was a shock. This was especially true for Princess Diana, royalty die of old age, political intrigue, or eating too much rich food, they don't get killed by a common drunk driver. Now, - What's the year? What's the year? - That happened in 1997. - Okay, so what's the, what's the pretense, is there? - So, Princess Diana, so Princess Diana was not your ordinary princess. In fact, the higher royal seen her as a bit unorthodox. She would appear in events and stuff that was kind of out of the norm for a princess of that, of that position. You understand what I'm saying? So she was a, she was basically everybody's princess. And some of the royals thought she was stepping out of her lane a little too much. And I think she, they have to do away with her in some way, but have to cover it up. - So she was more, she was more of a people's person and not a, like, royalty. - Right, think of a, like Prince Harry, Prince Harry, right? And when he married, Meghan, his wife. Right, when he married Meghan Merkel, right? Now, Meghan Merkel is nowhere from, she's an actress, an American actress, right? I think from California somewhere, I'm not sure. When he married her, she's basically, like Prince Harry has basically been shunned from the royal family because number one, and I'm gonna go there and say it, he picked not only an American, but he picked someone who's also of mixed heritage. And his royal, the royal family is, they're not like this shit. And this is kind of like the same precedence where Princess died being everybody's princess and not being a princess. - Okay, so that following the roof. - Yeah, no, you're right, it doesn't matter. But, so, okay, so what, how, what's the night she died? What's the leading up? So, apparently she was, she was driving, well, I think she was attending an event. I'm gonna kind of dig into this real quick. - What year, what year, sorry, what year? - Hold on, hold on, this happened on August 31st, 1997. Now, I'm gonna get into where the accident happened. Now, it says here, let me see, unlike many conspirators though, this one had a billionaire promoting it. Muhammad al-Fayed, the father of Dodi al-Fayed, who was killed along with Diana. Now, he claimed that the accident was, in fact, an assassination by British intelligent agencies. At the request of the royal family, al-Fayed claims were examined and dismissed as baseless by a 2006 inquiry. Now, the guy that was digging into it is the father of Dodi al-Fayed, the guy that was with Diana in the car crash. But when he went to go investigate it, they say, hey, your claims is baseless. You know, we don't have enough evidence to dictate what you think it is. It was just simply a drunk driver that hit them, and that's it. Now, they're in result now. It says, "The conspiracy theory advanced by Muhammad al-Fayed has been minutely examined and shown to be without any substance." Now, in April 7th, 2008, the coroner's jury concluded that Diana and al-Fayed were unlawfully killed due to negligence by the drunken chauffeur and pursuing paparazzi. Oh, that's what it was. They were trying to get away from the paparazzi, the driver was drunk, and they caught up, it wasn't in the tunnel? Yes, it was in the palace tunnel, yes. Yes, I remember, no, no, no, no, fuck that. Oh, that bullshit. Yeah, that's it. I'm with your wife, bro, nah, fuck no. Yeah, they're with you on that theory, hon. 'Cause 100%, look, you're talking about a multi-billionaire, you're a son of a multi-billionaire. Okay. And then a multi-millionaire actress, okay? Anybody, anybody, even in that time, we know they're rolling deep now. But back then, this is what me and my mom were talking about, like literally years ago, it wouldn't happen, not when it happened, but when the conversation came about, there's no way they didn't have paparazzi or someone rolling around them to where they could film it. That was the thing, because they said it was because of paparazzi and all of that, but why was there no pictures, no videos, anything that surfaced of it actually happening? 'Cause it was a paparazzi that was chasing in there. Exactly, exactly, that's my point. So yeah, I say, first as I doubt was an assassination. Like I said, they had to remove her because she was just not what the royals pictured to be. And honestly, that's pretty fucked up. And I remember when this happened, I was in junior high school, the whole world was in shambles 'cause that woman was loved all around the world. She was a humanitarian, she was a person first. She was a human being first before she was a princess. But yeah, I honestly say, I'll chalk that up as definitely assassination. Now I'm gonna move on to the next one here, subliminal advertising. Now this kind of goes with AI, right? Subliminal advertising, right? There's every little thing that's trying to get you to buy shit. I am a firm believer of subliminal advertising. I mean, it is everywhere, everywhere. Now it says, I'll read a little bit into it, we'll dive into it. It says, ever been watching a movie and suddenly get the munchies or sitting on yourself or watching TV and suddenly getting the irresistible urge to buy a new car? If so, you may be the victim of subliminal advertising conspiracy. - All right, I'm not gonna lie, though. - Yeah. Anytime I see like, they say that, but let's say I see a fucking Doritos commercial pop-up, right? - Okay, here we go. - Everybody's on subscriptions. So if you're getting commercials nowadays. - Mm-hmm, you're paying for commercials, basically. I mean, you should. - Yeah, you're paying commercials just different. But anyways, 'cause I won't, you know, it happens on YouTube here and there. - Yep. - I'm not even getting a product that's presented to me. I'll get the fucking product that just is like in that category. So I'll see Doritos, and I'll immediately just want like some other chips that sound nice, like some stuff. - Or I'll get like, I'll see like Subway pop-up, and I'll be like, fuck that. I'm gonna get a public stuff. - Now, I mean, what was the last thing you bought that you've watched on TV or somehow found on Facebook or something like that? You've seen it and you actually went out the bar. I know for me, it's always McDonald's for some reason. McDonald's, I'll see a commercial. And that's your, (laughing) McDonald's, McDonald's is a classic. We can't even count that. Not even, not even that. How would be real? I'm gonna be real? Besides McDonald's, like, product that I bought at a store? - Dejono, that's it. - Dejono pizza, you talk about the fucking, it's not delivery as Dejono. That got you hooked to go buy some? - They don't even do ads anymore. I'm talking about the old school ads. Those are still running free in my fucking head. - That's just, that's just programming your head for me. - Who's he's in there? - Yep. - For my wife, she said it was the circle cups. You know those fucking circle cups you can put the little flavor thing in it and you can control how much juice and what do you get? For her, she went and bought a circle and never looked back. She bought so many fucking flavors and different models of the circle cup. It's not even funny. I don't know, I think for me it's food. I think it's a little messaging with food. It's what gets me. - I don't know. (speaking in foreign language) - Oh, he gone. - Aw shit, he's gone. All right, no worries, we'll keep it moving. But now, saloonal messaging is absolutely a thing. And even now, we sell phones with built in microphones and you give it permissions. Oh, it listens to everything, I promise you. I'll talk about something tonight. I'm gonna just do it anyway. Talk about something near my phone. He'll pop up as an ad. Like, oh shit, hey, we heard you like, you like Tostino's pizza rolls. All right, here's an ad for some fucking pizza rolls. (laughing) - What happened? - Yeah, it does. And shout out to Gary and Quinlan. Hey, appreciate the follow. Thank you. I know I'm trying to catch all the names as I go along. I think I've got another guess. Oh, Mahal's coming back. I'll accept them back. They've kind of lost them a little bit. Hey, Mahal, we lost you for a little bit. - We fried back that. - No, it's all good. No, it's all good, it's all good. All right, I'm gonna move on to the next one. I think we can easily say that some little messaging is here to stay. Our phones are listening, believe me, I promise you when I'm done, I'm gonna see ads about conspiracy theories up and down my phone. All right, next one, Paul McCartney's death. Apparently, people thought that Paul McCartney was dead. What? All right, I'll read this real quick 'cause this is what I've heard of. It said that on November 9th, 1966, Paul McCartney got into an argument with other Beatles, stormed out the studio and was probably decapitated in a car accident to cover the whole thing up, the band hired a lookalike and a soundalike. Now, after going through all this trouble though, the band took to great pains to drop clues in their album covers and lyrics to hit that pump to the public that something was amiss. So why would Paul McCartney fake his death? - No, it's bullshit. If you look up TikTok every time you look on wall, we'll say-- - No, they'll tell you that. - They say he's the bestest the long guy, gone to roll to die. - Oh yeah. - You know, both of us, yes. - Do you believe a lot of celebrities have doubles? - You know, it's funny 'cause like this whole thing with Michael Jackson, right? They said that he was dead. Now they're saying he's alive, you know? - Yeah. - And you wondered, there's so many like Michael Jackson looks like that maybe, you know? - Or like TikTok. TikTok is a perfect conspiracy because a lot of people think TikTok died and like, is he dead though? He's dead. - No, no, no, no. It got released. Have y'all? No, you could, you could, you could. - I'd look, I agreed with you girl on the last one. On this one, I can firmly disagree. 100%. I know for a fact, go look at the Diddy fucking child, everything I came out. Diddy set this man up. - Two bucks. - There's little footage. There's footage. - My wife thinks he's a witness protection. A lot of people say he's a Cuba. - Look, look, look, I don't care what Diddy is. There's, literal, you can go look this up online for yourself. There's trial, like, just like they drop for every inmate. There's a trial that they put out, documentation, all of that in the documentation. Diddy literally admitted to setting TikTok up and shooting him and admitted to the person, like the person that killed him, has the videotape. Where that is, we don't know. - Hmm. - I know he admitted to all of that on stand, on trial, on O in front of all of that. It's in documentation online. You can go look it up. - See, I've heard for years, I've heard for years that Tupac, he was in Russia, Poland. - He admitted to Kelly Biggie too. - Yeah, but maybe that's why he is potentially hiding somewhere in witness protection, because I know I've seen pictures surface where this guy was in Cuba, he was in Poland, and he was apparently in Russia, like he's like fucking condescending to go with some shit. But this kind of tones to what Mahal was saying earlier, there is pictures, videos, things surfacing from years ago, that people are putting up now, that you yourself might have not seen till today. I've been victim, I'll see events happen. I'll see something happen on my media, and I'll say it happens today, and I'll kind of do some research, do some digging. And it ends up being three years, three years away. But there's other times, like, not every time I'm looking at the video and be like, oh, let me research this, let me dig into it, you know? So there's plenty of times where I've probably been finessed and seen an old video, old information, old news, but it just resurfaced in a way where it caught my eye, and I'm like, oh, oh yeah. - It's all sensationalism at the end of the day, it's what really catches you, it's a headline more than the story, though. But no, Paul McCartney, I've never heard of him even faking his stuff, but I need to do an episode on celebrities that faked their death, or rumored that they were dead, because I could go on and on about that one, but Tupac, we know Biggie's gone, we know Biggie's gone, but Tupac, he might be roaming around somewhere. I know recently this year, they arrested someone in connection to Tupac's murder, and I don't know how they did that shit, but I guess with- - We got locked up this year? - Yeah, he's locked up, but we don't know if he didn't. I haven't heard nothing. - I don't know. - Who got locked up this year? - What? - Who else got locked up this year? - Okay, Diddy, now Diddy. - Come on. - All right, Diddy? - Come on. - He knows some shit, he knows some shit, but we'll get back to Diddy, we'll get back to Diddy. - He owns Rocky, I didn't know about that. - How about Elvis? - I didn't know about that. - I didn't know about that. - It's like that guy, Bob. - Come on. - He's through his Elvis, you know? - Diddy was trained, Diddy was trained by- - I mean, I can't, I don't know. I can't go back to that conversation, but- - Diddy, Diddy, what was that, what was that fucking white Jewish boy that picked up Diddy on his record label? Tommy something? - Tommy boy. Are we talking about, no, not Jamie Iveen, right? - Are you talking about Chris Bali? - No, I swear to God, it was like an old school, like, but he's a typhoon. He's a typhoon in the music industry, but it's an old school white dude, Jewish dude, Tommy something, I feel like his name was. - I gotta do my homework after that. I'm gonna move on to the next one, but I'm gonna look up who was- - That's who trained Diddy. That's who Diddy got a shit from. That's why Diddy's in his shit. Do your homework. - Now wait, when you say trained, what are we talking about here? Are we training like, freak party shit training or something? - No, I'm not saying he was giving Diddy the plan to do a freak off, but he was telling, like he was the person that taught Diddy that like, blackmailing and, you know, like- - Manipulation blackmailing? - Fear is gonna be stronger than motivation, you know? And he taught that to him, you know? - I tell you what, Diddy has screwed over so many artists over there. You ever heard of real quick, 'cause I know, see, somebody's conspiracies, we're not even talking about Paul McCartney anymore, but you ever heard of the rapper Shine? You ever heard of the rapper Shine? - No, I- - Okay, Shine real quick, goddammit. Shine was one of the fastest growing new artists of Bad Boy, because of how similar he sounds to Biggie. Well, one night, Shine got caught up in a shootout in the club, and he took the fall for Diddy. He spent some time in jail for Diddy. He got deported back to Belize, but lately he's been popping up, look him up, S-H-Y-N-E, Shine. And he said, like how he took the fall for Diddy, and he has so much shit on Diddy. He has no ill will against them, because Diddy put him on. However though, he's got some shit to tell too, of course, but I'm gonna move on, just look him up on YouTube. All right, Shine. - Shine, come on, you. - Yeah, look him up. You're gonna learn a lot of shit. Now, the next one, the JFK assassination, now this has happened so long ago, but yet, people are still trying to put this together. I mean, I've heard it all. I've heard from Giacana that got him killed. I've heard the FBI, the CIA, I've heard the mob, I've heard KKK, I've heard the Black Panther Party. I've heard, well, no, the Black Panther Party wouldn't make sense, but all those other things, JFK assassination. Okay, he was assassinated, but by who? Because I could tell you Lee Harvey did not do it. Lee Harvey Oswald, in fact, Lee Harvey Oswald was killed on TV. He was the loose end. - You wanna hear what I think? - All right, what you got? Too many people talking, hon. You gotta give me a second. Give me a second. All right, what do you think, Tom? - All right, look, so I've watched shit turn, I've seen shit turn to different perspectives. Okay? - Okay. - You know from fucking Lee Harvey to the second bullet theory, to Lee Harvey being the, what do you call it? The smoke screen. - It's the porn guy. - The porn. - I can get it, yeah. - Yeah, the fall guys and they're being a background. This is what, this is what I've concluded. It was mistake, an absolute mistake by the CIA, and they had to cover it up. - Now, wait, now you say the CIA now, CIA do a lot of their dealings in foreign stuff. FBI is more domestic. Now, the CIA could have a hand in it because-- - The CIA that day. - Okay. - The CIA, what is it called? The security, what's the club that guards the president? - Oh, you're talking about secret service. - So their secret service is CIA. They're, that's the, who they go to. - Hmm, now, what they say. - Now, okay, hold on, now JFK, right? Now, do you guys remember the one event that goes infamously with JFK's legacy during presidency? Now, let's see who can guess this. It was one event that was such a failed event that it was such an embarrassment to this country at the time. Who can guess what that was that may have been the reason why they, they, they've assassinated this man. - Embarrassed man at that time? - Okay, it was a, it was a event. Now, you gotta remember who-- - Are we talking about when he wanted to shut down the CIA or the FBI or whatever? - No, no, no, no, no, no. I'll give you a hint, Cuba. Cuba, 1960, I believe it was 1962 or 1961 or 1962. This event happened that involved the CIA indeed, but it was something that put us in such an embarrassment. I'll just tell you straight out, the Bay of Pigs invasion. Now, the Bay of Pigs invasion was signed off by JFK. And of course, with that being said, he sent CIA-trained Cuban refugees, people that who made it to the US, he trained them, sent them to Honduras, created a battalion full of them, sent them in the Cuba. Now, the idea was to go and assassinate Castro. You remember Black Ops video game, right? So the first one, so they sent them in, Fidel Castro already knew they were coming in, rounded up all of the CIA operatives and those that they trained, and basically just told them, "Hey, you fucked up JFK." And that was it. And I think since then, that was one of the things that led to his assassination, was the fact that he embarrassed the country with a failed operation. - Yeah. - Now, yeah, that I think is one of them, but also too, interestingly enough, JFK was Catholic. There was never many Catholic presidents prior to, a lot of presidents before him were usually Wasp, white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Never really much Catholic. So he was never really favored either, not only just being the youngest president, but also being Catholic as well as many, many things. But I mean, who killed JFK? Who really killed JFK? - All right, so, look. This is where I was going with the two shot there. - Bob Marley, what the fuck, I just-- Go ahead. - She's-- - Plenty of people. But look, okay. - So I'm not gonna say if there wasn't someone that did wanna kill JFK, the first shot. The first shot, the documentary that I was watching it on, it said, or it didn't say who it was, but it like, described who they think it was, at least. It did not hit JFK, right? It bounced around, hit a couple other people, wherever the fuck did that. The second shot, it hit JFK. From the angle that it was from, it was clearly from behind. Close range. - Now, I know where you're going with this, 'cause I've heard this one. No, go ahead, oh, there's more. No, go ahead, go ahead. - Have you? - Okay, cool, cool. I'm sure you have. We're pretty sure because there was a, like a rookie, a rookie's special security fucking officer in the, in behind JFK. When the first shot went off, he had supposedly gotten spooked and accidentally somehow shot off his rifle. And when he did, it shot JFK directly in the back. And when all of that happened, they pretty much had to throw up a smokescreen to not blame it on the CIA. So, you know, they can keep their operations going and all of that. So it was the CIA's number one, you know, it wasn't, I'm not saying the CIA didn't plan for it to fucking happen, but accidentally the secret service person who was operated by the CIA, got a little spooked by the first shot, ended up squeezing his rifle, shot him, and now they're like, oh, fuck, okay. So they throw up this huge smokescreen and cut it and everything off. 'Cause what do we know that the CIA does best? This mantle governments throw everything off. They know how to get in there internally and he's actually going to win rate the plot. - So Amane, you're talking about the CIA throwing off their own government, though. Now, did you hear the theory of the second shooter? 'Cause there was theory that there was a second shooter somewhere in the crowd. - No, no, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So there was the first shooter, the second shooter was five. So five. - All right, Mahal. So you've been around. - The second shooter was the CIA themselves, but they had to throw up a smokescreen and kind of like, you know. - No, I got into that, look at the second shooter. - Now, remember, Lee Harvey was assassinated on live TV by Jack Kirby. - Hold on one minute. - Jack Kirby, I mean, getting into the Lee Harvey was tying up a loose end, because everybody seeing that Lee Harvey was the full guy from the book depository. - Yeah, from the book depository. - Yeah, and then-- - But think about, but think about, think about how it falls into place on being the smokescreen from the CIA in that situation. - That, we'll never know. But I-- - Exactly. - We'll never know. I mean, like-- - It's the perfect diversion. It's the perfect, and we won't know. We won't know the answer. But I think it can be fucking clear that like certain things add up, and like, it's clear that they made those events happen. They threw out those smokescreens like Lee Harvey, getting assassinated by that other dude. - But here's the thing, though. We still trying to figure out who did it, but we need to figure out why. The biggest question is why? Why this man at this particular time? Again, he was not favored by many policies. - You both know, me and you both know anything that our federal government would want to find out over a decade would be found out. - Hey, really? - If it hasn't been found out over a decade, it's because our federal government had a plan. - Well, hey, Rio 8585 just joined in, executive producer Rio. He said, "It's just because." I guess there is no real reason. He just said, "It's just because." That's most of the reason, most of the time, is just because they came in. - He was spoken. - Yeah, he was spoken. - He doesn't really know. - Oh, man. - He was real. - Yeah. All right, anyway, I'm gonna move on from JFK. 'Cause I tell you-- - Is it popular to be, does it enjoy? - All right, so the next one, Roswell, Crash and Cover Up. Aliens landing in Roswell. Did it happen? - Oh, man. - 1947. Roswell, I'm not even gonna read the synopsis 'cause I think we already know what the hell this is. Aliens. - I can't, I'm gonna go into a fun. I can't, I can't even say anything I'm gonna go into. - There's aliens. All right, listen, I'm gonna skip over Roswell. I'm gonna be honest, something landed in 1947, right? People ask, "Are we the only beings here in this universe?" Hell no, we can't be the only beings here. I strongly believe that there are aliens. I do believe in the Roswell landing, as crazy as that may seem. - Are government just submitted to shit? - Just saying aliens, yeah. - Are government, no, no, not even just aliens in our ocean. - Yeah, they just said that, they're living in the water, the ocean. - In the water. - Was it you that said that the other episode, Tommy, you said that in the last episode. I think it was. - I think I did, yeah. - Yeah, what the hell was that for? It was you. - They are weak. Like it is great for government. It was an official government, like public statement, said, "Hey, but not only do you have UFOs, "but I can't remember, "there's a different term for like earth, "everything's the same thing where it's like, "it's beings that we don't understand, "that have technologies that are way more advanced than ours, "that we just can't keep up with." - I mean, coming from our fucking ocean. But hey, hey, what do we know about our ocean? It's less discovered than our fucking moon. We knew our, we knew, we know our ocean isn't like, there's, we don't understand it. So obviously, I'm not going to lie. We're coming with a little brainer. It's going to be at least some sort of civilization, but it's a growth map that we just never saw. - Now, it's funny you mentioned ocean, 'cause I'm going to throw one at you, that's not even on this list, all right? The Titanic, was the Titanic intentionally sunk? Let's go. The Titanic. Now, the Titanic, we all know the story, right? Hit the iceberg, it's gotten crazy warnings. Now, there was also another theory about the Titanic that the reason why the communications with the telegraph wasn't going through the way it was, because of geomagnetic storms, AKA Northern Lights. It was somewhere up north enough to get Northern Lights. But, I mean, the idea was, is that they wanted the Titanic to show up two days earlier to New York City to surprise the press. Now, why is that? Why is it, how is it that this one ship just hit one iceberg? Was it intentional? - I, honestly, I don't know. (laughing) - Nah, that's, that's a sketchy one. - When you say, when you say it from that perspective, yeah, when you think of it in a certain circumstance, we don't think about it. We don't know what the captain was doing. I mean, the Titanic could have been a whole insurance policy, because if you notice, one of the main architects too, so the architect, the builder, Thomas Andrews, went down with the ship, the captain went down with the ship. The only person, one main figure of that ship, that didn't go down was J. Bruce Ismay. He was the ship's, not the builder, but he was the, no, he was not the captain. He was the, he was the builder, I believe. He practically owned the ship, and he went all the way to New York. It was on trial. Now, it could have been an insurance policy, possibly, insurance claim. That'd be one hell of an insurance claim, all them people passing away in the fucking process, but I'm gonna move on. All right, we fly in saucers. Now, the next one, chemtrails, chemtrails. What do we got with chemtrails? Chemtrails is apparently a conspiracy. I think they are, like, I don't know if I'm not shit. And like, yeah, like, I know everybody's freaking out. Oh, there's fucking lines in the sky, clouds and stuff, and it seems to go straight right over my area. No, I tell you, though, when chemtrails, right, real quick, is they're mostly, like, when you see planes hit a certain altitude, they're caused by condensation, but explain this to me, right? It could be a clear, clear day, and then all of a sudden, planes are going in different directions, they create these trails, and all of a sudden, now it's cloudy outside. Tell me you have not seen that shit before. - Oh, no, that's the thing. It's kind of like, think about what they do, like, when they rain seeds. So, like, don't you think anything in life, if you give an action, there's gonna be a reaction. One of the biggest things we have are moons. When they're doing that type, when they're, like, the people underestimate these terp, like, the jets, the turbines on the back of planes and stuff. - Yeah. - When they release these gases, and when they send out all this saturation, until, you know, it's here. - Yeah. - How is it, whatever, is gonna pick that up, and that saturation, all of that, it's not just gonna fucking disappear. - Yeah. - It's gonna mix in with the clouds. So, when we do have those rain days, naturally, when the rains, when the planes go before it, it's just gonna kind of fuel, it's gonna be fuel to the fire, which is how we end up with events like in Dubai, you know, where they actually-- - Oh, yeah, that shit was insane. - Yeah. - They have to control, and out of nowhere, they just got flooded for a fucking week 'cause it got crazy. - Yeah. - That was because they didn't realize, like, on top of the seating that they're doing, they're also getting seating from all the planes that are going in and out, all of the transportation, all of that is gonna feed into the clouds, and that's not, that's not just gonna disappear. - No. - It's gonna have to go somewhere. That's gonna go into the weather system. - And that kinda also ties into weather manipulation. Now, weather manipulation is a thing. I mean, we've used, or at least attempted to use this tactic, the throw-dough of enemies during World War II, where we'll cause areas of either serious drought, or we'll cause areas of lots of rain to bog down the enemy. As far as chemtrails, it says researchers who study things like clouds impact on global temperatures are often harassed by chemtrails believers, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it also says that the chemtrails conspiracy theory holds that condensation trails are full of other chemicals that scientists and governments are seeding into the atmosphere. Why? - Pick a reason. It could be either biological warfare or population control, or geoengineering, or an attempt to manipulate the weather. So I mean, who knows what's in the air? Like, honestly, like, we don't know what we're breathing. Do we even know we're breathing air? We could be breathing any damn thing. All I know is I gotta get up for work in the morning. That's it. That's all I know. I mean, who knows, man, but it always blows my mind how it could be a clear day, and then a bunch of planes leave in trails, and it just gets cloudy outside. Who knows what they're doing up there? There's no telling. Could be manipulating the weather. All right, now I'm gonna move on to this one here where there's a few ones. There's one on COVID, there's COVID treatments and deaths, and then there's birds aren't real. So I'm not gonna read through all these, but I'm gonna pick ones that I think will make for really good conversations. So I'm gonna pick, let me see, COVID and 5G. Yeah, that one blew my fucking mind. It says probably no event since 9/11 has spawned more conspiratorial thinking than the COVID-19 pandemic. There are conspiracies about the origin of the virus, as well as basically every government's reaction. Many people even believe doctors are lying about it, blaming the virus with deaths with other causes. Now, this one is very controversial even now because, well, it's still fresh in our minds. People are still taking precautions against COVID and wearing mask and stuff, and people change a lot of people's lives and psyches. I mean, that's a touchy one though. I mean, I know TikTok is ready to put the bare hammer on me if I even mentioned something like this, but when it comes to the 5G technology, it says one of the auto conspiracies mixes longstanding fears of 5G wireless technology with fears about the virus. It says, "According to COVID 5G conspiracy, electromagnetic frequencies from cell phone towers undermine the immune system, making people sick with COVID." So 5G towers. I know T-Mobile's not doing it 'cause T-Mobile's trash, but we're talking towers like AT&T Verizon. How the fuck does I even tie in with this? That to me is just tin foil energy, right there. That's really tin foil energy. And Rio says that Bush did it. Bush did not do this one. I don't know. But yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna move on from that one, but I'm gonna re-poly like two more theories because I know this is still fresh in a lot of people's minds, but I remember hearing about the 5G thing and I thought that was just the most ridiculous part of it all. I was like, there's no way. All right, let's see. I got somebody echoing on my side. I don't know who it is though, but I might have to turn you off and turn you back on. I think it might be you, Mahal. Okay. Yeah, it might be you or Tommy, so I'm gonna have you log off and then log back on because this does happen from time to time. All right, and then I'm gonna read, and meanwhile, I'm gonna read, 'cause I can hear myself on there. It says, yeah, I'm hearing it. I think it's on yours, Mahal. Let me see. I'm gonna read one more. I'm gonna read about a couple more theories. All right, birds aren't, I mean, actually no. The earth is flat. The earth is flat. I'm gonna try to get Mahal back on because I think I'm just getting a lot of feedback. All right, all right, thanks for who's. I like men 28. Hey, thanks for joining and gamer. One, five, four, six, seven things for joining. Some really odd names back to back, but I'm glad you joined. All right. Hey, Tommy, you still there? Hey, Tommy, you still there? I think he's there, but not there, but hey, I'll invite anybody else to join. I'm gonna read another conspiracy theory about birds. Apparently people think that birds aren't real. I'm not sure about that. I see birds fly around every damn day. I see birds fly every day. All right, hey, conspiracy theories about birds. Now it says when it's a conspiracy, not a conspiracy, when it's an elaborate piece of performance art, or does that make it even more of a conspiracy? So the birds aren't real conspiracy. It's a movement developed by Peter McEnough, who started spreading the idea in 2017 until a December 2021 interview in the New York Times. He stayed in character as a true believer, insisting in media interviews and online that birds aren't real and that they are surveillance drones made by the US government. You can't make this shit up. All right, Tommy Maham, birds, are they real? They're real. Come on. Come on. - I just creeped you off. - But this kid, he was 23 years old at the time. He says that birds are drones. I don't know. I've seen the dead bird on the road. I've seen many dead birds in the street. I didn't see any wiring on cameras, anything like that. I mean, they have their birds. I don't think they're drones, that's ridiculous. - I think just somebody's going out a bit too far. - Yeah, I'm gonna leave that one because to me, like this next one, right? The Earth, right? Number one, people were saying the Earth is flat. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is one right here. The Earth is flat. Now, this is not a new conspiracy now. You know what I mean? It was many astronomers and navigators thought that if they went from one end, sailed from one end to the Earth to the other, that they may potentially fall off the planet. Now, it says the flat Earth conspiracy theory first arose in the 1950s and had been giving new life in the internet age. Their bizarre, almost quaint, after all, even ancient people knew that the Earth was round. The Greeks even figured out the planet's circumference in the third fucking century. Since then, astronauts have launched into space and seen the blue marble with their own eyes, but flat Earth believers don't see beyond their own horizon. Now, yeah, come on, Rio, be nice, man. My house is a really good guy, man. All right, now, let's be honest, Mahal, I'm gonna ask you a stupid question. Do you believe the Earth is flat? - No, it's round, come on. - Yeah, it's definitely round. I mean, come on. - That's like old theories, you know. Like you said, if you sail from one field, you'll go up there. - Exactly whatever it is. - Yeah. I mean, like, that reminds me of this one, the moon landing. Now, Mahal, you've been around for a while, I know this. The moon landing. Now, how old were you when the moon landing, if you don't mind telling me, you don't have to. - Oh man, Apollo 13, and like the atmosphere been maybe in my teens. - Okay, okay. - Yeah. - Now you got it, now, I know during your time, that had to have been like the biggest thing since sliced bread, actually, you see this on TV. Well, you do remember though, they try to say that the moon landing was fake, that it was done on some production stage somewhere out in California somewhere. - Right, he had to try to say it was out in the desert somewhere in California or something. - Yeah, Rio says that it was a green screen. I don't know if green screen technology existed back then, but let me dive into this real quick, Mahal, and see. Now, it says NASA landed astronauts on a moon in 1969, but in the 1970s, a bizarre conspiracy emerged that the moon landing never happened. Hmm, now it says there are plenty of debunkings of various moon hoax claims, and then there's the issue of hundreds of pounds of moon rocks that have been studied around the world and verified as being of extraterrestrial origin. So how did NASA get the rocks if not during the moon landing? Why would scientists from around the world willingly participate in America's space age hoax? Nah, I don't think, I think the moon landing was very much real. - Yeah, you tell me Armstrong is not real either. You know, all those astronauts that went up there. - That's what I'm saying. I mean, we had the technology because we took the technology from the Germans after World War II. We even snatched a bunch of their rocket scientists and brought them to NASA, giving them a second chance in life. No, it's very much real, man. I mean, yeah, I don't know, but at the time, I guess when you're looking at it, it was so novel. It was such a novelty that it was hard to believe that even something like that could have been accomplished. - Didn't they used to send up like a chimpanzee or animals or something up at first when they were first testing it? - I believe so. I know Russia set the dog up there. So, Rio, to answer your question, we weren't the first on the moon, but we were the first to set a human being onto the moon, but the Russians have already sent something up there already at the time. So, yeah. All right. So, look, I'm going to read one more conspiracy. I'm going to just pick one out of the hat here because there's so many of them. And I don't want to go on this all night, but I'm going to go with, let me see. No, I was going to go with Barack Obama and Berthism because they were trying to say that they couldn't figure out exactly where he was born, but I'm going to probably pick reptilians running the US government. Yeah, I remember they were saying Hilary Clinton was a reptilian that she wasn't real and that she was really just a reptile in disguise. I'm not even going to bother with that when I'm not reading that shit. I'll read a little, I'll tell you what, I'll read why this came to place. Now, real quick, it says, the idea that the US government, or perhaps the entire world government, is ran by reptilian humanoids is out there to say the least. And yet people holding this belief have done real damage. For example, a man who detonated a bomb in downtown Nashville, Tennessee, I remember that on Christmas day, 2020, had written a friend about his belief that lizard people walked the planet disguised as humans. The guy killed himself and damaged 41 builders and injured three in the bombing. All because he thought that there was reptiles running the place. - Oh, that's crazy. - Look, about the monkeys, right? All those monkeys that got out. - Oh, yeah. Wasn't that somewhere like Virginia or North Carolina? - Yeah, they thought it was going to be like planet in the apes again, you know? - But the real question is though, did they ever find those monkeys that are roaming around? 'Cause I heard there was at least like 30 of them that escape and what is the purpose of the monkeys and are they carrying anything? I think there's many questions to be asked about that. I think they had 17 and a 35 or something like that. - Jesus Christ. - They kind of gone too far. That remind me of the movie "Jumanji" where the monkeys came out of the game and they stole the police car and they stole the motorcycle. That's the first thing that came to my mind was Jumanji. I swear. - Oh my God. - You got to do a series about, like you said, guys like Tupac and, you know, celebrities that are franking this and stuff like that. We got to do that. - Oh no, that's definitely, you know what? And that's a good one. I could definitely put it in the queue. I got like three more shows this week. I got one tomorrow. But that definitely, celebrity deaths 'cause I mean the most infamous person to fake their death was Machiavelli. And it's funny because Tupac used to call himself Machiavelli during one of the last few years of his career. So I think, yeah. Because, and it's funny, you know, the person that told me to do this episode didn't even show up to the fucking show, which is crazy to me. He told me, he was like, "Hey, you got to do an episode on conspiracy theories." And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, I got it." And I'll let you know, just look up your thing and now I did it. So that to me makes no sense. But nonetheless, I am gonna dig up old topics that I've done for the audio version and bring it to TikTok. You know what I mean? So I mean, they get a lot of people turning out, I didn't get any restriction warnings either. So that's a good thing. Even though I mentioned COVID, yet I didn't get a restriction, not going much much wood. Yeah, I'm not even gonna try that one. But yeah, conspiracy theories, I mean, love. I mean, Mahal, you, you've been through many of them. You've heard many of them. And a lot of them do sound ridiculous, but there are some that is just, don't sound very far-fetched at all. You know what I mean? Like, we don't know anything about anything. All we have to do is just, we're just taught to live our lives and work 40 hours and that's it. And everything else behind the scenes doesn't matter. You know, they idolize stuff too. So it's stuff that we don't know about, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's a publicly, you know, known. Yeah, and it's- That's awesome. And the sad part is that the truth won't come out until two lifetimes after we're gone, where the people who lived around that time will all be gone and they reveal it to a much further generation who would have no idea about it. And I appreciate the likes whoever's throwing all those likes. It's like, that's a varignment bill. Yeah, I think I've seen you early on the show. Much appreciate the likes. Just don't send too many likes 'cause they'll nerf the likes if you send too much. They'll think you're spamming. But hey, just keep sending them. I'm glad you liked the live. I'm gonna wrap up the show now. Conspiracy theories, right? I mean, we all have them. We all have the right to have these theories, but you gotta remember it. Like, you see what happened to Alex Jones when he had the conspiracy about Sandy Hook. It destroyed that man's reputation, it destroyed his show. What I'm saying is that conspiracy theories, without actual facts, the back it up can be very damaging, especially to the victims and the events that took place that people are conspiring to, or have these conspiracies. So you can have a conspiracy theory and a thought, but just know if you don't have anything to back it up, it could come with some really serious consequences. So hey, just do your research, do your research, and just do your research. All right, hey, I'm gonna wrap up this show. I appreciate it. Mahal, as usual, one of my top listeners and guests on the show, I appreciate it. And shout out to Tommy.co1. I think he's on, but I don't know what happens to him. I appreciate you joining it. And of course, two executive producers, Captain James 994 and Rio 8585, two of the best executive producers I could find that helps push the show. Much, much appreciated. And of course, shout out to my wife over there who's laying on the couch, who always likes to kind of chime in here and there to say her little too bit. But I'm trying to get her actually on the show with headphones and a mic and everything. But somebody's too chicken over there to do it. - Come on, wifey, get on. - They say get on. - Knifey, go on. - I'ma leave her alone. I don't wanna sleep on the couch tonight. But I'm gonna just leave that one alone. She'll be on one day, but at least she kind of chimes and then give her two cents. Hey, is there anything you wanna say from a distance over this? Say anything. She says hi. One day, I'll get her on the show and me and her could have a, the show Chopped. You want me to talk about Chopped? You know, you might've given me a reality TV episode idea. Beat Bobby, play cooking shows. I might do an episode on cooking shows. I think that works. See, I love it. I love it. She's not my executive producer. She's just my wife, but she gives me ideas. So she, I got too many executive producers. I got three of them. Yeah, you produce something, but they ain't so short. - Eight. Or said, she's your executive producer. - She's basically my consultant, wife and consultant. She can give me ideas, but executive producer, I got three of them already. I can't have everybody be an executive producer, idea people, but she could definitely be the consultant 'cause she does keep me in line if she does talk about things. And next, she gave me an idea about reality TV shows. I think I could throw that in the queue for a show coming up, but you know, I've given my shout outs. I appreciate it. And for those who just joined Big Clips 556, David Campos, yesterday, Brandy, Rob, 305. There's so many of you that joined. Like I said, whether you join for a minute, a second on hour, the fact that you made the effort is much appreciated. Anyway, I'm gonna wrap it up, have a good night. Tomorrow, I'm not gonna reveal the episode now. I'm gonna make a post after this and tell you guys what the episode is. And I think this one tomorrow should be a good one. And I'm anticipating some quite a bit of participation in. We'll see what happens though, all right? Have a good night. - Everybody join in tomorrow. - Yes, please join in tomorrow. I got a good one tomorrow. I think it's gonna be pretty good. You know, I'm surprised too. Nobody asked me about my Hello Kitty shirt. I'll explain that later, all right? Oh, my wife, she's asking where's her. She didn't ask for one, but I should get one of her one next time. But I got her, don't worry. But hold on, I got a new message below. Oh, it's just giving me a good job for doing 90 minutes. Now it's time to go. All right, have a good night, Mahal, Tommy, everybody. We'll do this again tomorrow. - Be good. - Tune in, I will, you too. - See you tomorrow. - Yup, see you then. Have a good one. Ciao. 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Originally i've done an episode on conspiracy theories on July 13, 2023 during season 9. By request for Tik Tok, I go back and revisit some famous theories this time with live guest! Tune in!

Tik Tok episode 27. Season 2: @austin.edwards070