Amala Ekpunobi
Men Should Stay Out of Women’s Bathrooms. Period.
Rep. Nancy Mace stands up for women’s spaces on Capitol Hill, more influencers are being visited in their homes and being asked about Diddy like I was, MSNBC hosts get blasted for changing their tune on Trump, and Laken Riley’s killer is convicted.
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- Duration:
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- Broadcast on:
- 20 Nov 2024
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(upbeat music) - Hi everybody and welcome to the show. It's good to see you. I'm your host, Amala Epinobe, and I'm happy to have you here live with us. We have much to discuss today. Of course, our title revolves around bathrooms. We are yet again, having the bathroom debate. I'm gonna make it very simple for you babes. Men, men's bathroom, women, women's bathroom. It's really that clear. I don't know why this debate keeps popping up, but nonetheless, we're gonna have it again today. I actually had that debate this morning on the Piers Morgan show, Piers Morgan Uncensored. That just came out, you guys can check that out after you hang out with us for this live, of course. So yeah, we're gonna be discussing that. Plus, we're gonna be circling back on the P2D private investigators that tried to hit me up at my old place of residence. We've had more influencers pop up with the very same experience, some of whom had the same two private investigators, shall we call them that, who came to their front door as well. On top of that, we'll be talking about morning Joe. You know, Mika and Joe, they host that little show, morning Joe, they've hated on Trump this whole time. They've been comparing him to Hitler. Now they're headed over to Mar-a-Lago, sitting across the dinner table, apparently, from Donald Trump and having a conversation with him about what things look like going forward. And lastly, we are going to cover the murder trial of Blake and Riley and give you the update. Of course, this guy's been found guilty on all charges. So a little bit of justice, but certainly not enough before we get into these topics. Of course, we have Taylor and Nashville. - Hey guys, happy Wednesday. And apologies if you heard a little bit of a technical difficulty there at the beginning of this stream. Maybe made it live, you'll hear it, but we'll try to clip it out for the end of the show. - Hey, yeah, we're in there. You know what, sometimes we have problems and sometimes you guys get to catch it live. That's why we show up, that's why we're early gang. Okay guys, let's talk about Nancy Mase of South Carolina. Nancy Mase has been making some waves over there in Congress, okay? She showed up, somebody else showed up who was also going by she or her. And then she said, "I think you're actually a man "and therefore you should not be "in the same bathrooms as me." And that is in reference to Sarah McBride, who is a transgender woman, who is now a member of Congress. And they're having this whole bathroom squabble, back and forth, Nancy Mase is saying, "You know what, we're going to make a rule here. "Men are gonna stay in their bathrooms. "Women are going to stay in theirs." And it's created a ton of controversy, plus a debate about what dignity and respect looks like within Congress. When you have somebody who identifies as female and wants to be able to go to the female bathroom, but biological women are saying, "No, I don't want to share this space with you." Now, Nancy Mase, I gotta say, "She loves the limelight, she loves "to be creating a little bit of controversy. "She loves when the cameras in her face. "I see her posting these very diva walking videos "and she's talking about fighting for women's rights "or whatever." And clearly, she's very emboldened to do this by her own personal experiences and her personal views on the matter, but also maybe a little bit, a little bit of clout. We're chasing the clout just a little bit. But she's been confronted heavily on this issue of wanting women to be able to use their bathrooms without having biological men in their space. And this is what she's had to say on the matter. This is out of ABC News. - Here she goes, here's Congresswoman Mase. - Congresswoman Mase, can I ask you a question as you walk here? So the question is, with your piece of legislation about banning women from using-- - 100% yes. - My question to you is-- - It doesn't go far enough, I'll be filing more bills. - Not the fur coat. - Please, she said, "Mm-hmm, ask me the question. "It doesn't go far enough." - No, she said that it was created in response to Congresswoman-elect McCrum. - Which should legislation be created, targeted at one specific person? - It doesn't mention anyone in the legislation, but I'm not-- - But you've said it was aimed at her. - No, I have said it's a result of this. I'm not gonna allow biological men into women's private spaces. I will stand in the brink and stand in the way of anyone on the radical left who thinks that it's okay for a penis to be in a women's locker room or a bathroom or a changing room. Hell, no, I'm not gonna stand for it. And the speaker said it'll be in the house rules package. If it's not, I'll be ready with a motion, a privileged motion to force a vote on this. This is not okay. I'm a survivor of rape. I'm a survivor of sexual abuse. And I'm not gonna allow any man and any female private spaces here in that story. And by the way, I'm getting death threats from men pretending to be women. Why is it that these crazy people, the insanity, the radical left, are willing to kill women over a man's right to be in a women's restaurant? - Speaker Johnson has said, Speaker Johnson has said he wants to treat every new member with the words dignity and respect. Forcing this Congress person to go into a male restroom, is that dignity and respect? - Forcing women to share private spaces with men is not dignity and not respect. And I'm absolutely gonna stand in the way of anyone who thinks it's okay for a man to be in our locker room and our changing rooms and our dressing rooms in women's bathrooms, and... - She said what she said. She said what she said, period. - Period, move on. Keep it pushing. I don't know what else you need to hear about this. And of course, you know what, a lot of this has been made about Sarah McBride specifically, because of course, their relationship with one another and their close proximity with one another and the question about the bathrooms, that this has been the catalyst for this larger conversation about whether or not men should be able to be in a woman's bathroom and specifically in regard to the capital where these individuals are going to be working, not on a daily basis, but quite often. And it's not necessarily about Sarah McBride. At least I wanna make that clear from my stance on the issue. I am willing to grant that there are plenty of trans-identifying individuals who truly just want to use the bathroom of the gender they've chosen because they feel like it affirms them in some way. They feel more comfortable in there. I can imagine if I was struggling through gender dysphoria and I was trying to pass as a man in civil society and I wanted to use the men's bathroom, it might feel really uncomfortable for me to go into the bathroom of my biological sex surrounded by other women and it might make them quite uncomfortable if I was trying to pass as a man and I'm now in their space and there are different dynamics that we now have to navigate because somebody has created an identity out of thin air, mind you. And the problems exist on the other end of that creation of falsehood. That's what we're dealing with now. So I understand that there's going to be many logistics questions when it comes to these identities popping up and how these people are meant to function within this world given that they're not living within congruence of the sort of social agreement that we've had for quite some time. But it is not on women to make themselves less comfortable, to open up their space for the person who has created this false identity to make them feel better about themselves and for them to feel more affirmed in this gender that they've chosen that is not in congruence with reality or their biological sex. And we gotta point out, she's talking about the fact that she's a rape victim, a rape survivor, however it is you'd like to phrase that. That's a genuine concern for a lot of women and it's not to say that transgender individuals are predators and rapists, although some of them are. Although a lot of them are dealing with something called autogutophilia, a special we're calling, we're talking about men who are cross-dressing. They do it out of a sexual fetish, a sexual perversion. They want to be dressing like women because it makes them feel sexual gratification. But again, that's not all transgender individuals. I'm specifically worried about biological men who are not experiencing gender dysphoria, who see this door that's been open for them, this loophole that now exists, that they can go into a woman's space by simply self-identifying as a woman and do whatever it is that they want on the other end of it. And even if women aren't victimized, why is it that I should have to share a female space with a man? Somebody please answer that question. And this guy, this reporter brings up dignity and respect and says we need to treat people with dignity and respect. And Nancy rightfully says, what about the dignity and respect for biological women who have been living in a reality where they did not have to share their bathroom with men for quite some time. And now that's being upended and not being upended for the sake of sanity. Being upended for the sake of a mental ailment that a very small portion of our society is experiencing but is now thrusting on the world and seeing that we need to bend to the whims of this new reality that they've created. It makes absolutely no sense. I'm not budging on it. And there's movement, of course, there's room, you know? And I wanna be generous and charitable in thinking about these things. If I see somebody like Blair White, do I expect Blair White to go into the men's bathroom? At some point in your transition, if you're truly dedicating yourself to trying to pass as the other sex, it's gonna be pretty difficult to be a biological man who from the outside looks like they're in a woman's body who's then going into the male bathroom. And I completely grant that and I understand that that's a very difficult position to be in and it's a very difficult problem to solve. But it was a created problem. It was a problem that we were not dealing with, you know? And I don't know why we can't just be honest about that. And instead we have to act like this is something that has been happening for all of human civilization and that we just haven't simply recognized it or we're giving these people dignity and respect in our approach to the mental illness that they're dealing with. Make it make sense. - Indeed, yeah. I just think when it comes to making policies, when it comes to legislation, you have to ground your legislation, you have to ground policies when as it pertains to bathrooms or male-female competitions and things like that in reality and in truth. And the truth is that men and women are biologically different. The truth is that people can take advantage of a loophole if you create a one or anyone who self-identifies as the opposite gender and that is the simple matter effect. So when we create policies, we should not allow for loopholes that endanger women. Women shouldn't have to pay with their safety for the feelings of a small minority of other people. And that's pretty much as simple as that. And I'm encouraged to see Nancy May standing 10 toes down on this, even though if you said, it's unfortunate that we have some of the more bombastic personalities who end up bringing these issues to four, but it's also, in this case, I don't disagree with anything that she's saying and she seems to be spot on with her stance, so good on her. - Yeah, and it's come through. I mean, they now have the rule that a biological men will use the bathroom of their biological sex in the same for a biological women. And luckily, this representative, Sarah McBride, who happens to be the trans-identifying individual that functions as the catalyst for this discussion, is saying they're going to abide by the rule. I will follow the rules as outlined by Speaker Johnson, even if I disagree with them. And you know, it's tough. You know, from the perspective of Sarah, if I'm trying to step into their shoes for just a little bit, I'm thinking, you seem to be a law abiding citizen who is clearly struggling with your identity. And you've gone through this journey of wanting to be accepted as a woman, wanting to pass in the world as a woman. And it seems like, looking at pictures of this Sarah individual, they've gone pretty far in that journey, and they're close, close to passing as a woman. But reality exists. Like the reality of it is you are not a woman. And if we allow this, in your case, how many other things are going to happen on the other end of this. And I was debating this on Pierce Morgan today, which I urge you guys to check out. In a couple of leftists, like sort of chimed in, and sort of insinuated that this is a non-issue. One of them even said, you know, you just have an anecdote of a woman being assaulted or a victim taking being made on the other end of this idea or the other end of the allowance of trans people to go into whatever bathrooms they choose. How many victims do you need? I'm sorry. Like, how many anecdotes and stories do you need of women being victimized to figure out that this is not the way that we should be moving forward? I'm all for unisex bathrooms. I'm all for single stall bathrooms. You know, if you can create a space where, I don't know, everybody can go, but they go in and they lock the door behind them and that's where they go to the bathroom. Goodness knows they're wasting your tax dollars on so many other things. I think they can figure out how to, at least on federal property, they can figure out this bathroom issue. It really shouldn't be this difficult. But because we're so sensationalized when it comes to news and these debates and we love accusing people of bigotry and transphobia and talking about the woke left and we just go back and forth instead of just solving the issue. So at the very least, we have a rule in place here. Men you go where men go, women you go where women go. And then we can wipe our hands of this and deal with it the next time it pops up or when the next identity pops up that grants us having another debate about where people go. Now, this individual, this trans individual has made a video responding to Nancy Mase and quite literally kind of makes the point for her as to why she wants to keep these spaces separated for men and women. Let's listen to this TikTok. - This video goes out to Congresswoman Nancy Mase. - Sorry, Instagram story. - Congresswoman Nancy Mase, I hope that one day I do find you in that woman's bathroom and I grab your ratty looking fucking hair and drag your face down to the floor while I repeatedly bash it in and so the blood's everywhere and you're dead. Thank you, I hope that Nancy Mase receives this message about kisses. - Oh, well now that you say it that way, come on in guys. Come where all she hears in this bathroom, please, you know? Now that you've threatened to bash my head on the floor and put my blood all over the place in the bathroom, please welcome in. And you know, your willingness to make the bathroom that dirty in the first place just proves to me that you're actually a man. Have you seen the difference between a male bathroom and a woman's bathroom? I rest my case. I rest my case. - I can attest to that. - And you know what Nancy said she's gonna go further. She's like, I'm gonna push for legislation that makes us a rule on all federal grounds and any federal building men are gonna go where men go, women are gonna go where women go, there you go. I mean, that's what we have to deal with in 2024, I guess. - Do you think the Instagram guy was trolling like the Timu Javier Bardem, looking guy? I think he's like the equivalent of a, I mean, maybe Jeffrey Marsh, but two in a degree or like a Milo Yiannopoulos on the left. Like is he just trying to get out of rise out of people because that is some seriously demented stuff but it's almost like he's saying what he knows will be incendiary in that example. - Yeah, I think so. And he's done the same with like JK Rowling. He said like JK Rowling should die and like we should have the full right to take JK Rowling's life and it's clearly very, I don't know, moved by the different debates that are being had that involve his identity. But even again, it's like, okay, your willingness to make the bathroom, that's already male, your tendency and proclivity to move straight to violence. Male, you've been clocked. You've been clocked. Now go to the bathroom. That is categorized for your sex. I just can't believe like this is a debate that even needs to be had today but we're gonna continue to have it. And apparently you're like, you're bigoted for saying that they can't go to your bathroom. And again, it's not even about the trans people. It's about the door that it opens up. And then on the Pierce Morgan, they're like, oh, well, you know what, crime hasn't really gone up since we've allowed trans people to go into the bathroom of their choice. And in fact, trans people might get assaulted going into the bathroom of their biological sex. And I can totally understand that. And I can understand that it's concern. And if we're being honest, there are gonna be trans people who slip through into the woman's bathroom. It will virtually be no problem. It's about the men who take over these rules and are predators on the other end of it. And it's similar to the conversation we have surrounding illegal immigration. People will go, well, crime is not really going up. It's not really going up. And American citizens commit crimes also. So like what's the real difference between an American citizen who commits a crime and an illegal migrant that commits a crime? Maybe we don't open the door for more crimes to be committed. Maybe we don't allow completely preventable crimes to be committed. And that same argument stands with this whole bathroom thing. Why are we opening the door for somebody who is not living consistently with the reality that we all find ourselves in? And it's unfortunate for them. I feel for them. I do not wish gender dysphoria or the feeling of being transgender on anyone because it doesn't sound like a fun journey whatsoever. But we don't get to make everybody else's journey uncomfortable and not fun because of the journey that we are on mentally and physically. And that's where we stand. We're just going to add to it. I'm at least encouraged by Sarah McBride's response to this. That wasn't this like wallowing in the craziness in the victimhood. It was a little bit of love like, OK, well, I guess I'm going to accept that. And maybe that's reflective of some progress that's being made overall on this issue in society because I feel like a year or two ago, a pre-Trump election. I don't wonder if that's maybe really affected the vociferousness with which the fire advocates of trans people in women's bathrooms are fighting this. And so if nothing else, it seems like they're willing to table this issue. And just like, OK, well, I'm going to show up as myself, but I'll defer on this issue. And let's get to business on the other things. And I'm totally down with that. Yeah, 100% and I admire that. And to kudos to them for being thrust into something that virtually they're not going to have an involvement. I don't think this person's a rapist or a predator. They just happen to be the person to spark what is a pretty monumental debate for all of us living right now. Now, back to the Diddy story. OK, y'all, I came on this show. I spoke to y'all and I said, some private investigators came to a place that I used to live, two men. And we actually found out who these two men are. Or at least we know what they look like now. And they knocked on the door. They started talking to my best friend and said, we heard Amla lives here. They came really under false pretenses trying to have a conversation with her about whether or not I'm paid to talk about the different topics that I talk about on this show. And once I got on the phone, interrogated them a little bit. They ended up letting me know they were private investigators to an unnamed client who they would not disclose who were trying to figure out if influencers were paid to talk about P Diddy and his connection to certain celebrities. So immediately, my mind is thinking some sort of celebrity has hired this group of people to sort of travel around and maybe get some dirt on whether or not these people have been paid to talk about them and to share particular bits of information about them, although we do not have that confirmed. Now, these two guys ended up leaving after finding out that I was not paid by anybody and continue to not be paid by anybody to talk about the things that I talk about. But not before they offered more money. They said, you know, if you were paid, we'd pay to know who's paying you. And whatever they're paying you to share these stories about Diddy and his connection to other celebrities will pay you more to share the opposite story. They let me know also that they had about 10 other influencers that they were planning on visiting. And we did find one of them, just moments after we finished the show, we finished talking to you guys, actually. Samson popped up on my TikTok and Taylor had sent me videos that you guys were sending to him. I was getting tagged and mentioned on TikTok. People saying, are these the same two guys? And here they are. These are confirmed, the same two guys that came to my best friend's door, where I used to live. - So you guys are private investigators who have come to my private home, asking about influencers? This is very uncomfortable, you guys. - I don't know why, I'll explain it. - No, you're at my home. - Okay, so you don't want to talk to us then? - Have I broken some law? - Absolutely not. - And you have the thin blue, is this frightening? I think, can you guys step away from my home? - No, we're in a public street, so the answer is no. But I'm not, listen, I'm not really not trying to give you a hard time. - Why are you here? What do you mean? You're showing up at my house. - We're very nice and respectful, and we will be. I just have two quick questions for you, and if you want to be interested in it, great. If not, I'll have a nice day, we're not. - What is this? This is odd. So, you have to admit this is very weird. - It always is, and people always have the same questions, but I'm happy to explain it to you. - What? - Very simply weird is hired to speak to a few people and have a lot of power and stuff like that on different platforms. What is this about the diddy stuff I report on? - Somewhat, yes. I don't necessarily do these stuff, but people are involved in just something like that. So basically, a very simple question is, are you paid to influence? - Not necessarily doodys stuff, but you know, people are involved in something like that. This is literally what he sounded like on the phone, and how did I describe them to you guys? So many of you guys, so many of you guys were commenting and saying, I saw the TikTok of who the guys are, you described them perfectly. Did I not describe them perfectly? There's one guy just stumbling over all the sentences, which is the big, you know, bulky guy. And then the boss man who sort of steps in to sort of clear things up, but not exactly clear them up. Now they claim their names are Robert, James, and Peter Degan. Who knows whether or not that's true. I already reported them to the police. I happen to have some cop friends. We wanna look into whether or not these individuals are actually registered as private investigators, because at least in the state of California, you do have to be registered and licensed as a private investigator. And I think the same can be said for other states. There is a registry that exists somewhere. I don't know if it's a state-based registry or a nationwide registry, but we're trying to figure it out, because who is Robert, James, and Peter Degan? They're probably not even their real names, like Robert, James. Okay, Robert, Robert, James. My name is Jason Allen. Yeah, just like, please. But they've also apparently visited other TikTokers. - So this morning, probably a bit. - Here's another video of a TikToker that popped up. You guys have been like tagging me and everything. You have been my sleuths all over TikTok, finding these people who have had similar experiences. So here's this guy quickly talking about his experience. - So this morning, private investigators and quotations chose to show up on my doorstep that apparently are going around and contacting numerous influencers that talk about Diddy and that do deep dives on Diddy as well. Now, obviously I didn't talk long, but I was curious who they were, what they wanted, and why the fuck they were showing up on my property? And how the fuck they got my address? Best believe I had a special little sub that said it in my hands that you could see from a pretty good distance if you know what I mean. - If you know what he means. Okay. And they asked him very similar questions where you paid. If so, who buy, they offered him money. I saw another guy on TikTok. Sorry, another guy on TikTok who lived in Arizona who was visited recently by two private investigators. Now these were apparently different private investigators because his visit exists on the same timeline as the two private investigators being here in California to visit me and the other influencers that I mentioned. What is going on? Who is hiring these people? Now some are running with the narrative that these are people hired by Diddy or somebody within Diddy's network. And he, they're doing it at his request to figure out why influencers are talking about these stories. First of all, I don't even know if these guys were private investigators. I don't know what they were doing. There could have been so many different things going on. They could have been there to just scope out and see where these individuals live. And they had one guy sort of confusingly talking to whoever answers the door so that the other guy can scope out the area and see what's going on. I don't know. I mean, my best running theory is that some celebrity that all of us as influencers have spoken about in relation to Diddy, sort of tangential to Diddy is maybe sweating about the fact that people are making this connection. And maybe somebody else has bad blood with this celebrity and they think that somebody is funding celebrities talking about them and connecting them with P Diddy because I would only imagine that if you are in any way, shape or form connected to this man and people are starting to talk about it or they're whispers or you're seeing a video pop up here and a video pop up there, you're gonna start getting pretty paranoid that you are next on the chopping block and that somehow people have figured this out about you. And knowing the sort of network that they had with other celebrities, how they would target other celebrities, the rumors about Diddy and Tupac and Kid Cudi and all the different wars that they were feuding out with one another, maybe they really are paranoid that somebody has it out for them and is paying influencers to build this connection and bring them down. I don't know, guys. I'm just making shit up at this point. - And this is where I usually say we should get out our tin foil hats and play the music, but this is so serious 'cause it literally happened to you in your doorstep. - Yeah. - It's not this conspiratorial stuff, like we were saying yesterday, but I think your take's plausible. I think my favorite theory is best summarized by one of the commenters on our video from Monday who says he's a former law enforcement officer. He says it sounds to me like they may have been working for the Diddy Defense team before trying to build a defense and the first step is try for a change of venue and complain that Diddy can't get a fair trial. They do that by showing a judge that someone's paying influencers to say things about Diddy to millions of people best shaping public opinion on the case that the defense can say that X person paid influencers to pass false information that can help the defense equate him. So I think that that is probably where my greatest suspicion lies is I still think it is Diddy's legal team. But, you know, that's alleged. That's just our speculation at this point we don't know for sure, but hopefully we can with the help of these other influencers and just continue to investigate this, get to the bottom of what's really going on here. - Yeah, 100%. There's something, something's afoot. Something is not right. So we're trying to figure it out. I've been blasting these guys' faces everywhere. I'm like, oh, on TikTok, on Twitter, on Instagram. We need to find out who these men are. I'm expecting at least one person to be like, that looks like my uncle, my uncle, John. Something crazy. Why have we not figured out who these men are? We put them on so many different publications, so many outlets have covered it. We have them all over social media. I am just so curious to get to the bottom of it, but not if the bottom of it makes me six feet under. (laughing) - Which I don't think is anything. - Yeah, I don't want to be at the bottom of the river after this whatsoever, but I don't know. I don't know what's going on. We have a lot of circulating theories. If you have your own theory, drop it in the comments down below and let us know what you think. It's anybody's guess at this point, but what an interesting thing to find yourself in the middle of a story. And to be honest, we didn't cover Pity that heavily on this channel. So it's so wild to see how many people that these individuals are visiting. Now, speaking of covering stories and being a journalist, I am not one, but there are people who claim to be journalists. And their names are Mika and in Joe, they're from the show Morning Joe of MSNBC. Now Mika and Joe have had quite the history with Donald Trump. Mika actually used to love Donald Trump. There's a compilation you can look upon Twitter of Mika in her moments with Donald Trump. This girl loved him. She was in heat. Okay, when Donald Trump was around, always fixing his hair, hugging him all up on him, flirting with him all the time, then Donald Trump becomes president. MSNBC gets the whole memo. We cannot like this man anymore. Orange man, bad Trump derangement syndrome. Mika and Joe follow suit. They're hating on Donald Trump. They're calling him a fascist, a threat to democracy. They are comparing him to Hitler. But now the Donald Trump has won this election. Mika and Joe of MSNBC are choosing to turn a new leaf. They've actually reached out to Donald Trump and they visited him at Mar-a-Lago. And now liberals are freaking out on Mika and Joe of Morning Joe for choosing to speak to Donald Trump. Let's watch the clip. - Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed by several of President-elect Trump's cabinet selections. And they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the President-elect himself. On Friday, we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago to meet personally with President-elect Trump. It was the first time we have seen him in seven years. - Now we talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit. And it's gonna come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues and we told him so. - What we did agree on was to restart communications. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to President Trump since March of 2020, other than a personal call. Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting, President Trump was tearful. He was upbeat. He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would go speak to the President elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided Washington and the country. We have been as clear as we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President Trump's actions and words in the coarsening of public debate. But for nearly 80 million Americans, election denialism, public trials, in January 6th, were not as important as the issues that moved them to send Donald Trump back to the White House with their vote. Joe and I realize it's time to do something different. And that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him. What a novel idea that journalists covering politics and news should maybe talk to the person who's largely responsible for what's happening in politics and news. It's just unbelievable to hear. And of course, they're quaking in their boots, giving this announcement to the American people because they know the backlash that they're going to receive on the other end of visiting Trump at Malago and sitting and talking to him. But I must say this is what you should do as a journalist. Their mistake is not meeting with Trump at Malago and having a conversation with him. Their mistake is the characterization that they put forth of Trump before doing so. They were cowards, and when Trump was getting heat and people were accusing him of being a fascist and a Hitler and a dictator and a threat to democracy, they jumped on the bandwagon and did the exact same. Them and all of MSNBC and almost every single mainstream media outlet to date did the exact same. But they, I guess, maybe fell for it. I don't know about Mika and Jo. I don't know about their moral compasses or how aware they were that they were lying in their characterization of Donald Trump. But the election functioned as a huge wake-up call for these people that, oh my gosh, the American elector, it does not agree with me whatsoever on this. And maybe we need to start moving toward Donald Trump instead of away from him. Now, it's a shame that they made that call far too late, way after comparing him to Hitler, way after calling him a fascist, way after saying he's a threat to democracy. But this is what journalists should be doing. And I see all these liberal individuals left this individual, shall I say, having a complete meltdown on these two, saying, how dare you go sit down, sit across from Donald Trump, how dare you have a conversation with him? Excuse me. I think, have we lost track of what it means to be a journalist? If you are willing to call yourself a journalist, wouldn't you wanna be with the people you disagree with the most? Isn't that who you really wanna be sitting across from? Rather than sitting in your echo chamber, like the people at, you know, MSNBC typically are, ABC, our CNN, or the Washington Post, rather than being in your echo chamber, you should be going to the people you disagree with most. Going to the people who you think are going to impact the world negatively and having the conversation, speaking truth to power. Remember that quote, 'cause it's gonna come up in just a second as we move to Sonny Hostin of the View, criticizing Mika and Joe for going and speaking to Donald Trump. But what they've done is actually the right thing. Now I hope Mika and Joe have a little bit of integrity and they're being honest about who they are to the American people who are watching them, but also honest is Donald Trump about how they truly feel about him, but we know what's truly happening. They get a memo that says Donald Trump is now a fascist, they hop on their show on Morning Joe and they say Donald Trump is a fascist. Who knows whether or not they actually believe the things they're saying. We don't know, they probably don't even know what they believe at this point. They've been working in news media for so long. And behind closed doors, they have their actual opinion. It is all theater, everything that we see, which is why as soon as he won that election, they were happy to go to Mar-a-Lago and instead across from the threat to democracy who's the second coming of Hitler, because they don't believe the things that they're saying. But I hope this is a lesson learned by the two of them, although I'm not going to rely on that or lean on that as an idea. I hope they've learned that sometimes the things that you think are not the actual reality, they're not what the American people think, and maybe you need to tone it down a little bit in your divisive rhetoric about this man. And I'll show you a quick example of what Mika and Joe were like before he won this election, before they went to Mar-a-Lago to speak with him. - You can go back and talk about Nazi Germany and I do it, people can't start drawing the parallels. Well, you're just stupid or you have your head in the sand. - People are actually voting, is it? - It's a really boring person voting for that guy. - Not just voting language. - Just how stupid would you have to be? - These people may be stupid, we're not. In Donald Trump insults our men and women in uniform every day, we know him. And you vote for a man who scratches them. And these idiots on Twitter, these idiots on cable news, these idiots on Sunday shows, we're out here, we're present, you know. - A man who said he was gonna be a dictator from day one, a man who said he was gonna terminate the Constitution. - It's clear he doesn't, he doesn't even think. - Well, but I think that, I really don't know Willie. - I can't, I can't. - There you go, that is Mika and Joe before. Is there audio working? Can people hear, I mean, you know? - Yeah, if you have an issue, just close out the stream and open it again and refresh your page. - Okay guys, yeah, just come back to us. Yeah, so that is what they were sounding like before. That's how they were talking about Donald Trump, which of course is going to shock your leftist allies when all of a sudden you're singing a different tune and wanting to sit across from him at Mar-a-Lago and ask him these questions. So there we are. As I said, we're gonna get to a Sonny Hostin's response to Mika and Joe sitting down with him, Sonny Hostin. I can't with this woman, but I have to, I have to. So we're here, let's watch the clip. (audience laughs) Look, the bottom line is that America needs a free press that is willing to speak truth to power right now, more than ever. (audience applauds) And I think that we have to be very clear-eyed when we think about the president-elect and cover the president-elect. And I don't think you need to sit down for 90 minutes at Mar-a-Lago and kiss his ring to be able to speak truth and to be able to cover a story. - I have a question, Sonny. How do you speak truth to power if you're not willing to sit across from the power and ask some questions? Who said anything about kissing a ring? Which I don't know, maybe you know something about Mika and Joe that we don't know and that they are a little like ring kissers who just move where the wind blows. Given their recent coverage of Donald Trump compared to what they've been saying previously, that might actually be true. But if you have any sense of journalistic integrity, you would show up and talk to the president and maintain your sense of integrity through the way you speak with him rather than creating a divide and doing what the media has done for so long, which is they allow Donald Trump to sit in power. They went through his first term. And instead of coming to him, asking him questions, trying to bridge the gap and the divide that led to him winning the election in the first place, they stayed separate and characterized him in the most evil, horrific ways they possibly could. And they tried to do so again. The American people said, no, we want him back for a second term and he's going to go through another four years. And this is the moment where if you're a Democrat or leftist in media, you should be thinking, oh, I need to learn from this. Clearly me stepping back and just putting out whatever my feelings were on the matter. It was not very impactful and a lot of people saw through it. Maybe I do need to sit with him and have a conversation about this and tell him how I feel and tell him what I think. Nope. Apparently you're supposed to keep running from it and you're supposed to live in your own echo chamber and they're supposed to live in theirs. - So maybe they're not journalists in the true sense. Maybe they're saying that they're opinion general journalists. - Oh, wow. - But we have to remember that. - She says, maybe they're not journalists in the true sense. Maybe they are just opinion journalists. You cannot be more wrong. I just, it's just unbelievable. Journalists are the ones who show up. Journalists are the ones who speak to the people they dislike. Journalists are the ones who are willing to set their visceral feelings aside to have more important conversations and to push people who they disagree with. Opinion journalists, I guess is what Sunny Hosten calls them. That's what Sunny Hosten is. She hears a story. She gets no objective facts or details about it. And then she spouts her opinion out to people. Even though her opinion is more often than not, baseless. We've actually seen this recently. She started speaking about Matt Gaetz. And in talking about Matt Gaetz, brought up the allegations against him that he has slept with a 17 year old. She accused him of being a human trafficker. And then she had to give a little legal note at the end of the show saying, you know what? Actually, he's been through a three year investigation by the DOJ and charges were not brought against him. And she did so as if she was pulling her own teeth out of her mouth. That was how horrific it was for her to go on air and tell the truth about a story that she decided to cover. -Trump is the guy who ushered in the era of fake news. He is the guy who ushered in alternative facts. He is the guy who attacked three black female journalists. He's the guy that revoked Jim Acosta's press credentials for asking him a question. And so I think that this president-elect-- I hate to say it-- would like nothing more than to have only Fox News cover him. Would like nothing more than a state sponsored media. And I don't think he can be trusted in the way that other presidents can be trusted. This is an aberration. -But the reality is-- -Which is why he invited two MSNBC hosts to his humble abode in Mar-a-Lago because he only wants Fox News to cover him. -Guys, you just can't-- you can't make this shit up anymore. They're just-- Sonny Host and I tweeted out refuses to learn a lesson. And I think she's just going to continue down that pathway for who knows how long. -That's what we've seen so much of in the wake of the election of Donald Trump is this establishment sort of elite media class, especially. They're either climbing higher up the ivory tower or perhaps having some introspection. And it appears maybe that Joe and Mika are having a little bit of introspection and say, OK, maybe we overstepped, but it would be a lot more believable if we saw any kind of ownership or a contrition or any sort of admission that, OK, hey, guys, clearly, we're out of touch, we don't get it. We thought things were a certain way. We've been pushing this narrative and no one's believing it, no one's buying it. And instead, they're just kind of like quietly, OK, well, we're just going to go over to Mar-a-Lago now. And we're going to be doing journalism in a different way because they're trying to save their tanking ratings, I guess. But I think Sunny would be better off instead of being so worried about speaking. I think she's done plenty of speaking on the view. She should try listening. And if she were to listen, you know, I just saw there's this study floating around to X right now that more-- the average X user today is more in touch with the average American than the average X user pre-Elon. And they should be asking themselves, what did Elon do right that got the platform more in touch with reality, more in touch with how people are actually feeling? And I think the answer is free speech and having principle and being even handed. And you're getting a real reflection of the conversation. We're tuning in to CNN and MSNBC and Reading Washington Post. You haven't been getting a real reflection of the temperature of the American people and what they're thinking and what they want. And as journalists, you should be interested in that. And just as a citizen of the country, you should be interested in that. And when they've isolated themselves in the ivory tower, it has been-- they have been trying to push and impose a narrative and a truth onto reality that doesn't actually match with reality. And that is a frustrating endeavor, and it's a losing endeavor. And I think that's what happened in this election. And hopefully, instead of retreating to blue sky, like so many of them are doing and going higher up the art and going deeper into-- we just need to double down on the open hostility to Trump and not talk to him and only perpetuate whatever narrative we can about how Hitlerian and how much Nazi as they actually go back to a place of principle and actually go back to your point. Trump accepted more hostile interviews during the campaign than Kamala by a very wide margin. He's been no stranger to hostile media coverage. In fact, they committed to not covering him because of how much free airtime they gave him by giving him so much hostile covering in the first election cycle in 2016. So I think the effects on this issue kind of speak for themselves, and some of you would do well to reflect on them. Yeah, they just-- a lot of reflection. A lot of reflection. You guys need to like sit down and truly think about what the real issues are and how you've been so wrong about the real issues, because that was the wake-up call that you should have got on election day this year. Now, speaking of wake-up calls and talking about the real issues, on the other end of this election, you all know if you're a conservative, if you voted for Donald Trump, you've been told that you don't care about women. You don't care about women's rights, because women's rights and women's lives all revolve around repro rights and the access to abortion. Well, this next story that we've been covering a lot on this channel has finally somewhat come to a close. And people are calling this justice. We're going to talk about how much justice this actually is. We're going to recover the story of Lake and Riley. Lake and Riley's killer has now been found guilty on all charges, in what has been a pretty quick trial here. We're going to cover some of the key points of this trial. Of course, with respect, Lake and Riley's life has gone. And this can only do so much as far as retribution and injustice for the life that was taken. There are some heart-wrenching videos that exist online that we're not going to play on today's show. But you guys can check them out. Through this trial, they've covered the police response to finding Lake and Riley's body. The police officer who actually found her and responded gave testimony about her body and how she was found, largely exposed with her clothing messed up in a sexual assault that ensued during and after, presumably the attack of this young woman. They have a recording of her 911 call, which unfortunately was too late in this brutal attack that she experienced. So that exists online. The body cam footage of her mother and family finding out that she was deceased also exists online. We will show none of that on today's show out of respect. But if you don't truly feel the weight of this issue or you feel like you need more clarity on what it looks like when somebody goes through this, I would urge you to check out those videos. Now, we found out through this trial that Jose Abara, the killer of Lake and Riley, actually got to Georgia, after Georgia where he would take Lake and Riley's life on your dime with your tax dollars, your government paid for him to get there. This was unearthed in the trial on day two as Jose Abara's roommate discussed how they made it over to Georgia. - What else that you've got to know that you live with while you were here and after? (speaking in foreign language) (laughs) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) - And how did you get two Athens? (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) - In New York, we asked in Manhattan. (speaking in foreign language) - And hotel roofing? (speaking in foreign language) - Roosevelt, Roosevelt. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) - In Manhattan, we request for humanitarian flight to come here to Atlanta. - There you go, a humanitarian flight. And Jose Abara was apparently enjoying both humanitarian flights and hotels funded by you. You paid for it. You paid for this guy to be able to go from Manhattan to Georgia and take the life of a 22-year-old girl who was in the middle of her nursing studies who was leading a beautiful life, had tons of friends, was out on a morning run and ended up being sexually assaulted and having her head bashed in by an illegal migrant. We paid for that. Now her stepfather at the end of this trial also took some time to address the court, address Jose, although I didn't even see him with his headset on in this clip. He needs a translator because he doesn't speak English. So I don't even know that he got to hear the diary entry that Lake and Riley wrote, but in her diary, I think just the day before she was murdered by Jose Abara, she wrote a letter to her future husband, talking about how she was leading her life in a way, studying in the way that she was, working every single day to make herself into a wonderful wife for the future husband she had not met yet. And then she had her life taken by Jose Abara. Now, to get into even more graphic detail, sorry for those of you who do not want to hear this. She fought for 18 minutes with this guy, as he was trying to assault her and take her life. This was covered in the trial. On February 22nd, Jose Abara put on a black hat, a hoodie style jacket, and some black kitchen style disposable gloves. And he went hunting for females on the University of Georgia's campus. And in his hunt, he encountered 22-year-old Lake and Riley on her morning jog. And when Lake and Riley refused to be his rape victim, he bashed her skull in with a rock repeatedly. That is what this case is all about. The evidence will show that Lakein fought. She fought for her life. She fought for her dignity. And in that fight, she caused this defendant to leave forensic evidence behind. She also marked her killer for the entire world to see. The forensic evidence that he left behind in this fight is his DNA, and only his DNA and Lakeins underneath Lakein's right fingernails. He also left behind in a struggle with her over her phone because the court will hear that she called 911. He left behind his left thumbprint on her iPhone, which was found not far from her body at the crime scene. And it is that forensic evidence alone that would give you enough evidence to find him guilty as charged on the counts in this indictment. The evidence in this case will come in basically three forms. There'll be forensic evidence. There will be digital evidence. And there will be video evidence. Okay. Absolutely just insane. And in mind you, this is something that during the whole campaign, when they were going back and forth with Trump and Kamala, Kamala would barely address what was going on with these families, took no accountability whatsoever. While she was marching out her celebrities, whom she paid millions of dollars to come to her rallies and shake their ass and sing rap songs and endorse her, Trump was campaigning with the family of Lake and Riley, who had to experience this, with the family of Jocelyn Nungri, who had a 12 year old girl who was also raped and murdered by illegal migrants. These are the peoples whose lives are being impacted by this. And it's only going to get worse from here if we do not get a handle on this issue. I urge you to do anything today for 18 minutes and to truly gauge how long of a time that is to be fighting for your life as a 22 year old woman against a grown man. Absolutely appalling. And Bill Malugan, who covers the border, who covers illegal immigration, he summed it up in a tweet as far as the government failure here. Since the government failed, Lake and Riley at every step of the way, her killer was in federal custody after crossing the border illegally, they released him. He was released again in a sanctuary city in New York City. After arrest, ICE was not notified. Then New York City gave him a taxpayer-funded flight to Georgia, according to his partner's testimony. It's unacceptable at every single level, rest in peace, Lake and Riley. Jose Obaro also had a brother who was here illegally, who was also a criminal. So not only are these people criminals by entering this country illegally, but these two individuals went on to commit further crimes in this country. Crimes before he committed the crime of killing Lake and Riley, of beating her head in with Iraq. Now today he was found guilty on all charges, we'll roll the clip. - Yabara, illegal alien, accused of killing Lake and Riley, hearing the verdict now, let's watch. - Three, count one, malice, murder. I find the defendant guilty. Count two, felony murder. I find the defendant guilty. Count three, felony murder. I find the defendant guilty. Count four, felony murder. I find the defendant guilty. Count five, kidnapping with bodily injury. I find the defendant guilty. Count six, aggravated assault and intent to rape. I find the defendant guilty. Count seven, aggravated battery. I find the defendant guilty. Count eight, obstructing or hindering a 911 call. I find the defendant guilty. Count nine tampering with evidence. I find the defendant guilty. Count 10, peeping, Tom, I find the defendant guilty. - So there, even just to hear the counts, it sort of tells you the story of what he was up to that day and what he did to that young girl and it's absolutely horrifying. And it doesn't matter like how much happens on the other end of this. You know, you close the border, you deport every single person who's here and who is not contributing and who is committing crimes and who is taking the lives of other American citizens. It does not get this family back there, their daughter. It doesn't get her back her life. It doesn't get her back the future that she had ahead of her. It does absolutely nothing. And it took all of this happening for people to sort of wake up and have a lesson learned here and still on the other end of it. When we go through every single point which our government has failed and failed, like in Riley, you paid for it. When he was captured and you had border patrol or ice dealing with him, which was wasted time essentially because they took this man in and let him go. You dealt with that. When he committed crimes in New York City, you dealt with that. When he got his flights to Georgia, you paid for that. Now that he's gone through trial, every single person there who's employed by the federal government, you paid for that. Every single bit of resource, you paid for that. We're paying for him to go through our due process system as if he's an American citizen and he's not. And now he's going to prison because you have a DA, in this case, in this area, DA Deborah Gonzalez who has decided that she's not going to allow the death penalty to be a sentence in this case. So he is going to go through our prison system and every single day that this man wakes up and makes his bed and goes and eats or every prison guard who has to deal with him, every single bit of air that he breathes. You are paying for. And even if he did get the death penalty and he was placed on death row, a lot of these inmates stay in death row for a very lengthy process, which you're paying for. The shot they'd give him to take his life. You are paying for. How insane is that? And all of this 100% preventable as we knew who this guy was, he was detained on multiple occasions and he should not have been able to enter the US in the first place. So that's what justice looks like on the other end of this. And you can hear as the counts are being called out, as the charges of being found guilty are being read out by the judge, just the sobs from Lake and Riley's family and those who knew her and those who gathered in court to hear her story. What justice is that? There's nothing, they get nothing for this and still this guy gets to burden the American system. So that's what really exists here. So when people say like, "Oh, you're a conservative, "you don't care about women, "you don't care about women's rights," tell that to Lake and Riley, except you can't tell that to Lake and Riley. This is what she has gone through and this is what her name is going to be for the rest of her life, not even her accomplishments. Her name has been relegated to this experience that she's had and has been made into a political issue because it had to be made into a political issue because these are the real life consequences of the policies that we advocate for. So we're not ending the show on a very happy note today, had to talk about it. And I mean, it's a win in so far as this guy is no longer going to be able to take the life of another young woman, but how much of a win is that after you're screaming from the rooftops that this should not be allowed? And then she becomes the example that makes movement happen on the issue. - Yeah, just where my mind goes hearing all this is like, what was it all for? What was the purpose of this? And the best answer I can come up with is so that the Biden and the Biden administration could score some political points by saying we reversed what Trump was doing at the border because we're more compassionate. And this is what an entire side of the political aisle supported and the media ran with this narrative and kind of covered up just insanity that's been going on at the border of the last four years. What was that really why she had to die? It's utter insanity. And we found out since that there's what 14,000 murderers and 16,000 rapists at large in the United States now who came in illegally through the border. It's like, was this really just for playing politics with people's lives? And I've mentioned it before, but I lost my great uncle to an illegal immigrant who was truck driving and struck my great uncle while he was on his morning walk. And it's like, this is the real consequences of, I'm reminded of Gadsad's quote of suicidal empathy. And we have this idea that, oh, we're being compassionate, which is the generous interpretation that you're being compassionate and not just trying to secure political power score points. But let's say it is for compassion. Well, good intentions are not the whole story. And you have to keep in mind reality. It's like you said before with regard to the trans bathroom issue, like one victim is too many. And we have to legislate based on truth, based on reality, based on the reality that there are evil, bad people out there who will take advantage of loopholes in women's bathrooms, who will come through an open border and commit acts of violence against our citizens. And if we allow that to happen on our watch, that's on us and that it's inexcusable. And I'm grateful that justice has been served, at least to the degree that it can, short of bringing Laken back. And I'm grateful that we have seemingly reversed course as a nation as pertains to the border. But man, it's not satisfying, you know, this never should have happened. And it is entirely inexcusable. - Yeah, I just, yeah, it's crazy. - Not much more to say. - No worries, it was hard to even watch the videos that were coming out of court, let alone, try to place yourself in the shoes, the family members who had to experience this firsthand. And then to place yourself in the shoes of Laken, just to be out on a run and have to experience that, literally out of the blue for 18 minutes. And again, I'll second this. Do anything for 18 minutes today and understand how long that is. And just think about any sort of time you've had a stressful moment in your life and how a minute becomes an hour in that time. And then think about that, times 18. It's just absolutely awful, terrifying, horrific. So in the small sense that she got justice today, I'm happy for her and her family, but that's where we're at. We're gonna get through your super chats today, guys. - I'm gonna hopefully change the temperature a little bit, lighten it up. - I should give gears here. - Okay, okay, out of good is our first super chatter today, says men should have also stayed off the dating app section where men are looking for real women today, not a gay man who puts gender as women to swipe. - Should stay out of the dating app section for, oh, okay, gosh, I gotcha. Yeah, you know, it's so many different things. You don't think about how like the sort of ripple effect that these things have as they are for their push in society and as people start to take on these identities, but it's just, it's more than bathrooms is all a say. And that was some big part of the debate that we had today on Pierce Morgan. Just like, sure, I can see from like a left leaning point of view how you want to be like radically empathetic with all these people and you want everybody to feel accepted, but even the small bits of ground that you grant that maybe you feel are inconsequential or don't really affect people that much. They have a ripple effect into so many other parts of our lives. And if we can't discuss that and be honest about it, I don't know what we're gonna do. - Yeah, and hopefully we emerged from the insanity that we've recently been experiencing with a stronger commitment to, you know, objective reality and our principles. And that is maybe a swinging back in the pendulum of team reality after a lot of what we've been experiencing, particularly Porcadobos as crazy trans activists will find this bathroom bill crazy offensive because it's in their nature to be crazy. - Yeah, I mean, it's just, I get it. If you're really, really struggling and you have a mental illness and the world is affirming that mental illness and saying like, you need to fight to be in the bathroom you wanna be in and all this stuff. And then people are trying to reject that for their own safety and for their own personal concern. You, it's hard to fathom it. You are gonna feel like you're being personally attacked and you know, it's not a personal attack against you. It's a logical attack that has existed for just, it's not even an attack. It's just logic. I'll just put it that way. It's just, it's just logic. And it's existed for all the time, up until now. - Yeah, if you adopt an ideology that is incongruent with reality then reality is gonna feel oppressive. That's, that's just the reality of it. So it's not, it's not our fault. It's not reality's fault, it's yours, unfortunately. And then with all sympathy to people who are genuinely like suffering, you know, gender dysphoria and different delusions and things like that. But it's, it's a truth, it's the truth at the end of the day. Cara says, this is random. But Amala, do you still do ice baths? If so, is there a reason you stopped the videos? I liked the one I saw and I want more. - I haven't done one in a while because the thing that I bought, okay, so like where I live, there's just like a communal area or whatever. And the thing that I bought, you can't, obviously you can't just like leave still water outside. And then the whole ice is a problem. I live in Los Angeles. So it's just a logistics nightmare. So I'm not gonna be able to actually do ice baths consistently until I can get like one of the like the fancy things that actually keeps the water cold. I realized very quickly how much of a nightmare it was. And I don't like cold showers. So that's been, that was not a fun chance. - I had to get that in before they all say to do that. (laughing) - Yeah, Gigi says, I'm a lesbian who voted for Trump, make lesbians. So again, I'm, I'm not sure that's typo, make lesbians so again, I'm tired of men entering women's spaces, including lesbian dating apps. - Yeah, I get. - Apparently this is a big issue. - Yeah, it would be out on the dating world. If you've messed up the definition of men and women, you're gonna have like a lot of like overlap with things where there shouldn't be. And maybe you're saying make lesbians so again as in like make lesbians exist again, like make us so. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Because yeah, now they're coming after the definition of lesbian, what John Hopkins University said, it's non-men who are attracted to non-men. What's, if that was what you meant, make lesbians so again, please. - Right, because men identify as women and then they wanna be a lesbian woman, which is really just a straight man. - Right, but who likes to cross dress, I guess? I don't know. - Tayden Jin-Moo says, we have to have men banned from women's restrooms happen ASAP, already been so many instances of insult happen at sickening. - Yeah, and that's what I talked about up here is I'm like, okay, you have the girl in Loudon County, Virginia who was raped in her school bathroom. You have Hannah Tubbs, this was out of Los Angeles, where went into the bathroom of a restaurant and assaulted a 10 year old girl, and then ended up being placed in a youth facility, even though Hannah Tubbs, which is actually, I don't know what the male name is, whatever their original name is, was 26 years old, make that make sense. We spot at Los Angeles where a grown man went and exposed himself to both mother and children who were at this spa in the female section of the spa. The guy at YMCA, what an Ohio, I believe, walked in and exposed himself to a group of women who were in the women's section of the YMCA. Countless examples of this, the planet, fitness, the other gyms around the United States of women giving their firsthand accounts. How many more of these stories do you need? And then the girl goes, oh, I need stats. Oh yeah, they're really putting together the stats on this one because that really moves in their favor to study just how much of these incidences are taking place. Plus with all the back and forth of who can identify as trans, who is identifying as trans, what's the difference between somebody who identifies as trans and a predatory man who just says, my pronouns are she or in order to get into the bathroom. There's such a mix up in this conversation, but the heart of it is preventable crimes with common sense. - You're here. Thomas Hewitt says, "Hi from Scotland. "I've always been left leaning, but in recent months, "I felt so disillusioned with the modern left "and their identity/gender politics. "Your channel is a breath of fresh air. "Thank you both for all you do." - Thank you, I appreciate that and you're welcome here. Yeah, it's interesting 'cause it's like a lot of the things that left-leaning people say, I'm like, okay, yeah, sure. I totally see how you see it that way. But what about all the other stuff? And the other stuff is hitting a little bit harder than the normal, like logical stuff that you're saying to me right now. I'm like, when I hear I've always been left leaning, I'm like, okay, so you're probably like liberal, which we get down. Liberals are committed to liberal principles, the free speech and due process and open dialogue and all those things and we're all about that. - Totally. - But when it's the leftist, the radical leftist who I think are the loud minority that has been dominating the airwaves for so long and the right sick of it, the left sick of it, and hopefully with this election, we've kind of turned the page and are going back to a liberal/conservative dynamic instead of a far left radicals dominating the conversation from the left side. Heather Freelink says, you notice biological women who transition are not fighting to be in men's bathrooms or compete in men's sports, yet there's no biological difference? - Well, obviously, I think there's the dynamic of two. A woman is just not threatening. There's no threat level to a woman. If you're a woman who is posing as a male or socially trying to take on male characteristics and you go into the male bathroom for the most part, I think you're gonna be okay. If you're going in there looking super feminine, you're probably the one who's more endangered than any man that's in that bathroom. It's very much the opposite for women who are experiencing biological men entering their space. So that's why I feel like it's not a topic of conversation. I think if I identified as a man and started growing a mustache and I was on T and I had a lower voice and I walked into a men's bathroom, men might be like, fuck is that? And then just continue to go to the bathroom and I would go to the bathroom and I would leave. But if I'm a six foot man and I go into a woman's bathroom trying to pose as a woman, there's just a dynamic that is not there. And the sexual forces that drive men are simply not the same for women. The predatory nature that can be existent in men is simply not the same for women. And that's why these conversations feel just so out of whack and they feel like they're not level because they're not level conversations. - It's common sense, like I said before. Vikadimus 934 says, great to see grounded decisions back in the law department. Hope it inspires similar moves in France, even if we're not as far as the USA yet concerning men and women's spaces, cheers to both of you. - We'll get there. It's like, these are just like the consequences of modernity essentially. These are privilege issues. Like the fact that we can even sit in Twiddle our thumbs and wonder, like am I actually a man born in a woman's body? It's just like, it's such a cushy privilege, first world problem to have in the first place. So I think there's going to be more of this as our world just develops and as we make progress, so we call it, they're luxury problems literally. And trans people do not want to hear that their issue is a luxury issue. It's a luxury issue. - Yeah, it's decadence. And maybe not for that much longer if Biden starts World War III by launching missiles into Russia before he leaves office, which apparently is starting to happen, but yeah, it's definitely a privilege thing to discuss. And you mentioned ground decisions back in the law department. My mind went to the Jeff Young and Ger ruling that just came out, which we made talk about soon, but just absolutely horrific. I hope he can appeal that to the Supreme Court or something because just complete insanity. A man basically lost rights to his child in California for opposing his child's transition and is now no longer even going to have visitation rights that aren't supervised. So just total insanity. So we're making progress on the law department, but could use some more. - Nuts. - Chaoticgood says, "Privateize can't tell you who their clients are and some info as privacy reasons just as you didn't give us their last name." - Oh, yes, I mean, yeah, we did this time. I don't care anymore. Put it out there. Robert James and Peter Deacon, whatever, find out who these men are. Probably not their real names. Yeah, I understand they're not supposed to expose who their client is, but I'm still gonna press and see if I can figure it out. But they should be able to show you a license. If they say I'm a private investigator and you say I would like to see your license or a card of some sort, they should provide that to you. I think at least in the state of California. And that has not happened yet. We have not seen that happen yet. So who knows who these individuals are. - Starena Waldo says, "Hi, Amala, my mom, and I love watching your videos in commentary. Keep up the great work." - Thank you so much. That's very kind. I love it. It's a mother, mother, daughter, mother, son. What was the name? - Starena Waldo. Probably mother, daughter. - Baby, I mean, that seems like a internet username. - Yeah. - It's like a Tsar, Rina, and Waldo, who knows. - Who knows? - Or that's your real name. And that's a dope name, anyway. - I love that it's a family affair. I'll say that. Don't wanna misgender you. - Alfredo Arquise says, "Taylor, how can you attest to women's bathroom being cleaner than men's bathroom? What do you do in your free time? We need answers now." - You can just tell, man. - Yeah, first of all, common sense. - Yes. - Yeah, and there's generally not urine on the floor or on toilet seats where women are using restrooms. And if you go to men's restrooms in which I've been many, that is certainly the case. - Yeah, if you go to the gym and you like, you know how like the gyms have like the men's locker room all inside the woman's locker room. If you even walk past the opening to the men's locker room, you're like, oh my God, I would never wanna be in there this fall. - Yeah, it's like stronger of B.O. - Yes. - Men in men generally are just less neat and tidy and you know, conscious of those things than women. It's just true. I'm not gonna apologize for it. - That's just true. - Hannah Nyen says, "Happy," I love catching the live as I write up post-work reports. I'm an SPED teacher in a psychiatric residential treatment facility in Kansas for kids. Y'all helped me decompress after crazy days like today. - Oh yeah, I can only imagine what you must deal with on a daily basis working in psychiatric residential care 'cause that's like, that's you gotta be dealing with quite a bit to be, especially with children. Children have such a struggle, a hard time as it is, regulating emotions and then with psychiatric problems on top of that. Kudos to you. And thank you for doing the work that needs to be done. I think like with the way we're trending, psychiatric care and mental care is going to be paramount for many, many individuals in our society or becoming sicker and sicker up here than ever before. - And I'm glad you're watching. I'm a little afraid that the subject matter we often cover on the show is not much of a break from psychiatric issues. But I'm maybe speaking sanity into them is helpful. So thanks for being here. Kim Botz says, "Ameliminates self-ID. "Those who pass like Buck or Blair, et cetera, "should clearly use the bathroom causing the least disruption "to everyone else. "True sufferers of gender dysphoria "want to blend in, not stand out." - Yeah, it's honestly, I think at some point, when you take on this identity and then you put the effort, whatever amount of effort you put into assuming the identity that you've chosen or the gender that you've chosen, it's going to be a risk benefit assessment that you're going to have to make every single time you go somewhere. And that is just the risk you incur in taking on a transgender identity. And I'm sure Blair went through it in the differing steps to becoming more feminine in nature and in aesthetic and the very same for Buck. There would have been moments in their transition that they would absolutely have not have passed as a woman. And the same to be said for Buck where he would not have passed as a man and you probably enter a space where you feel like you've stepped over the line of like, "Oh, I can sort of give a sigh of relief "and now I feel like I'm going into these spaces "and I'm not being clocked by anybody." And that's going to be different for everybody. And of course, if you bring up that argument for people on the left, they're going to say, "Well, now it's a class issue "because some people don't have money "to get the surgeries or they don't have the resources "or the education to do what they need to do "or they haven't been treated for their gender "it is for you yet." I'm sorry, okay? Like this is a fabricated designer problem that we're dealing with now. And you just have to deal with the reality of what exists on the other end of that identity and of that issue. And that's the unfortunate bit of it. And I'll say, I've been to the bathroom. I live in LA. I'm sure I've been to the bathroom with trans women who've gone in there, done their business. I would have never been the wiser because we have all the elite plastic surgeons here and people are very good and they get the facial feminization and the vocal feminization and all these different things. There's been many a time where I've been speaking to somebody and I'm like, "Oh, you're trans." Just something clicks or maybe they open their mouth or I see their hand or like something clicks and you go, "Oh my gosh." And fortunately for those people, they've managed to pass as the identity that they've assumed. It's just not going to be the case for everybody and you have to deal with whatever the consequences are of where you're at in that journey. - Paige Nicole Comar says, "Thank you for bringing "so many important issues and topics to light. "This is my first time catching your life. "And I love you both." - Thank you, appreciate it. We try to cover these things as best we can. Hopefully we're doing a good job today. - Katie New says, "Hey, A and T, "it's mine and my husband's second wedding anniversary. "Can we get a sparkle to celebrate?" - Yes, you can. Happy anniversary. I hope you guys are having a good day and spending a lot of time with each other. - Yeah, that's a big deal. Congratulations. - Yeah, congrats. I'm a long-slapped youth says, "Amel, you could have told those quote-unquote "private investigators that you identified "as mainstream media that they would have left you alone." - Right, yeah. Honestly, I don't know that they had the mental cognition to really understand much more than whatever the baseline instructions they got for being at my door were. SKA-Trider says, "One of the hardest parts of gardening "is pulling weeds 'cause if you don't get the roots, "they will come back. "The left is clipping grass without pulling the roots." - Yep, definitely. I've certainly, and that's in on. Really, there's so many issues on the right and left that we can apply that same sort of analogy/metaphor to. - Daniel C. Nuff says, "You did a great job "on Piers Morgan, popping emojis." - She's appreciated. I feel like I didn't speak that much, honestly. There, Emma, what's her name, Vis-Vizalint? - Vigalint? - Vigalint. - Vigalint. She certified yapper, certified yapper. She was not gonna let it go. At a certain point, there was moments in the "Piers Morgan" thing where I'm like, okay, I'll try to like, interject and give a sentence here or there, but at some point you just realize, okay, we have a lot of people who really wanna be talking right now and I'm just going to sit back and listen and wait for my moment, for me to be asking questions. - Yeah, she was speaking. Yeah, bunnies and I needed a translator. - But despite your lower airtime, I saw, Emma wouldn't tell you all this, but all the comments on that "Piers Morgan" video are, oh my gosh, you got "Humblah", I love "Humblah". - Look how cool. - It was the greatest. - It was so nice. - So good, so, you know, it's just proof that if you show up as yourself and in good faith and, you know, don't try to be this bombastic, dominate the conversation type or whatever, you know, it's just, let people respond to that. So, even though you had less airtime, I love that people were still shouting you out. Timothy says, kind of random, but I just got a really good sales job with base play pay plus commission. Most people at the company make upwards of six pigs. Can't wait to grind during these next four years. America gonna be lit. - Hey, congratulations on that for you. You're already planning on putting in the hard work. That's what you need when you're answering a new position. Just go at 110 and see what it brings you. That's awesome, congrats. - Yeah, that's awesome. Over easy egg, it is people like Jose that make me think we should write exemptions into the eighth amendment. Some people deserve things that we can't impose on them. - Yeah, you know, yeah. For this one, I'm like, it's a wonder to me why he's even pure to go through all this at the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, you're found guilty of all counts, which we've already burdened our system enough. We've already paid enough to have you go through the trial, send him back to wherever the hell he came from. Or just go to the southern border, drop him off wherever and walk away. I don't know what else you need to do with individuals who choose to come into this country and do this. We'll give you due process because we're Americans. And you know, innocent until proven guilty, we've proven you guilty. Now you're on a boat and we've pushed it out into the ocean and you can deal with whatever it is you have to deal with out there. RJ7 Adventure, ready? Once had to badly use restroom brush to men's, it was destroyed, rushed to women's. It always uncomfortable. Was spotted by a female and felt embarrassed. - Yeah, I guess it's just like, yeah, if the men's is gross, maybe, if you really had to and you're in an emergency, men, you poke open the door and say, excuse me, I really need to go to the bathroom and you let everybody, every possible woman who's in there know that you are in the middle of an emergency and you gotta do what you gotta do because you gotta come in in the least threatening way possible. - RJ, come and clean here. That's funny. One more from over AZ. Hold on, should we bring back real problems? M-A-H-R-P-A, make America have real problems again. L-O-L, maybe that will get rid of some of the insanity. - Yeah, I don't know. You often think about these things, like I think it was a large argument for a long time, specifically in reference to Gen Z, that Gen Z hasn't had the great struggle of its time yet, like we haven't had the thing that's shaken us to our core that we've had to deal with on a more like human primal level for those older than us. It was like 9/11 and the Great Depression and just everything that's like-- - So the Depression. - Yes, like all these things that have sort of swiveled throughout human history that you see as like this, this is the moment that we learned something about like humans and people say Gen Z haven't had that yet, so maybe we do need real problems in a sense, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't wish that on us. - Yeah, Nocturum says, "Hey, A-N-T, first live, I caught in the wild, just wanna say thank you for your vids. They kept me company in October when I spent some 50 hours total carving pumpkins." - Mm-hmm, 50 hours total carving pumpkins, wow. - That's impressive. - That is, I didn't carve a pumpkin this year. - I didn't either, unfortunately. - I love carving pumpkins, I love Halloween, it's like my second favorite holiday by Christmas. - It's a good one, it's a good one. - But yeah, that's awesome, it's probably not fun if you're having to do it for 50 hours straight, or I guess not straight, but still. South Pole 380 says, "When are you going to show, do a show with Billy Ray Brant?" - Billy Ray Brant, who's Billy Ray Brant? - She's an influencer, she was in the Lady Ballers movie, I looked up the name, let me see. Lady, oh, she's the one who did, I'm like, she didn't even wanna take talk of like, she does this video, she talks dead to camera, I think about like dating and masculinity and stuff. I'll have to look her up, I don't know that much about her, so who knows? - You know, we're doing so many collabs these days. - Right, yeah. - We're kind of behind on all your other requests, but Rachel B. Gibbons says, "The more I hear from Rachel Ziegler, the more I want to see her fail, rumor has it they want her in the MCU now, God help us." - I'm just, she's gonna go very far in her career guys, just buckle up for it. I followed Rachel Ziegler. - I feel like she's like, torpedoed herself by the Snow White stuff that she's been doing, head in this latest Trump stuff. - I think there's a talent that transcends your mouth and a lot of people just have it. I used to follow Rachel Ziegler for a little bit of Amla Rachel lore, I just followed her when she had a very small YouTube channel that had like no subscribers on it whatsoever. And she was just, I was a theater nerd, she's a theater nerd. She would like go around to New York to like these different events and like do theater and sing songs or like she'd meet up with like your favorite theater star and like take a photo with them or sing a song with them. And I was like, okay, this girl's clearly gonna be something. She's super talented and then just slowly but surely, boom, boom, boom, she becomes famous. And I don't know, she's, like it or not, she's got a talent that just many people of her age do not have. And she's already like laid the groundwork, I think for a pretty long career. It's just sometimes when you're super talented and you're gaining this career, you out Diva, what you're putting into the industry a little bit too soon. You know, like Patti LePone can be a diva right now. Beyonce can be a diva right now. Rihanna can be a diva right now. Liza Manelli and all these other like theater women, they can be divas now. I don't know if you're there yet to be talking what you're talking right now and telling Trump supporters that they should never know peace. I think you need to get at least a decade under your belt before you start talking smack about more than half the country. And she's just really out of her over her skis a little bit. Cynthia Rivas, another one of the divas. Cynthia Rivas, you're your divaing a little too close to the sun and a little too soon. Okay. And one of those little wings or your broomstick is about to catch on fire. Admittedly, I am not a theater nerd. I have not been following Rachel Zegler's career. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anything that she's been in. So all I see is the, you know, negative public image things that she puts out. So I guess that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, she's like, I do believe talent like speaks for itself and will carry you. But and I'm encouraged to hear the like, I believe in meritocracy, but also like who at some point, people are not going to want to cast you in things if you're this, you know, massive liability on the PR front. Yeah, it's tough. We'll see how things balance out. I mean, she's one of the few like young people who's really had like a meteoric rise pretty quickly. I think her first like major Hollywood booking was Steven Spielberg's reiteration of West Side Story. And she got that off of just like sending in a tape audition. So like that's pretty, it's not typical, it's not typical. So I mean, we'll see, we'll see what happens. If she, if her talent can pull forward above all the noise that she's creating for herself, and I mean, just, oh my gosh, like stop, talk about stepping on a landmine, like purposefully placing the landmine and then stepping on it, essentially is what she did. All right, Abhishek Matthews says, do you think political opinions hinder career growth when you're in typical corporate America? That's very much on point. Yeah, it's a great, great segment. Sometimes sometimes, I don't know. It's like, it just depends. I think more often than not, especially if you're a conservative, it's not going to help you in corporate America, especially to be conservative. But you do have those times where you sort of like go out on a limb and you're open about things, and then you find out like, oh, there's people around you and that you can network with, and who will help you in your career, who happen to think the same way that you think, and you're kind of ballsy for coming out and doing it. Hard work trumps all, just like, if you don't need to talk about it, just unless you want to make a particular stance about something or it's affecting your work life, just like work hard, and that'll shine through everything. Yeah, generally speaking, your professional life shouldn't have much to do with politics, and if you're bringing politics into your workplace and leading with that, then it probably will hinder you. But if when backed into a corner on principles or something, because they're forcing you to sign a DEI statement or something like that, then okay, now you have to a decision to make, and that might affect your career, or it might just lead the better things for you, but generally speaking, yeah, you shouldn't. You should let professional life be professional life, and not bring politics into it unnecessarily unless you're forced. Right, especially if your professional life is just like a neutral thing. That's the thing with Rachel Sackler. Like you were on a very neutral ground, especially like you're working with Disney, which is supposed to be, they claim to be like the most neutral of entertainment you could possibly have, and you're coming out saying that, which you know she had to have gotten calls from like her managers, PR team, you know, Disney execs saying like, take it off, you know, take down the post. (laughs) Crazy. You have to do the right thing and stand against fascism, mama. Oh gosh. It's worth more than her career prospects, so yeah, she has a vested interest in still appealing to half of the country. Actually, I mean, I guess, Detroit would didn't win more than 50%, but he didn't win the popular vote. So whatever of the majority of the country who is not aligned with you politically. So you have a vested interest in having some appeal to them, like Michael Jordan said, Republicans by speakers too, sneakers too. But yeah, to just ignore that seems reckless, but alas. South Pole 380, a Miranda, but serious question, if someone invests their money in playing the lottery and they win millions of dollars, does that technically make them a self-made millionaire? - Like, yeah? - Yeah, I mean, yeah. - I mean, what we mean when we use the term self-made billionaire is not that millionaire, it's not that, but like in a very strict, you know, literal linguistic sense, I guess, yes. - I'll say the answers, yes. Yeah, perfect answer. Taylor worded that perfectly. - Funny, I thought it's perfect. Chicken pork adobo again says that illegal immigrant will have free lodging food, guard and sex in prison and American taxpayers will pay for it. I hope he gets deported. Just watch him forget and identify as a woman or some crap like that. - That's the thing. You can just like, it's crazy though, like all of these things can just link together if you think about it enough and you just draw the map out. He could literally go into a federal penitentiary, say I identify as a woman and he would actually have the possibility of being moved to a female facility. Just nuts. - And that's indeed, I guess that is where we are wrapping up because that was our last super chat. - Guys, thank you so much for your messages. Today, I've had a pleasure sitting down and speaking with you going through some of today's most hot issues, hot button in deed and we had to close out with Lake and Riley, somebody who should not be forgotten and hopefully whose loss is the catalyst for a lot of change on the issues that brought about the loss in the first place guys. If you like this video, like, subscribe, click the notification bell to be notified every single time we're live for you guys, which is Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 1 p.m. Pacific, 3 p.m. Central, 4 p.m. Eastern, 8 p.m. Universal Time Plus, we post videos for you guys every single day. Tomorrow's video is about Jaguar. They're in the car company. 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