(upbeat music) - Welcome back to BS Reactor. This time the crew is wrapping up their conversation about the Transformers, Colon, the movie, the 1986 animated nightmare fuel that probably sent a multitude of impressionable children to a really dark place. Also f***ing lights, bright colors, and a soundtrack that unarguably slays. As always, the crew is going to be using profanity and spoilers. You would know this if you've listened to the other parts of the series. Make sure you listen to the other parts of this series. If you've recently discovered that you don't like spoilers and profanity, you always have the option of tapping stop before the music ends. But seriously, it's part three. Just listen. Thanks for finding us again. We appreciate you. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - So the next scene, Optimus finally gets there and does some amazing action. He does backflips and like shooting people in the air. Because he gets shot in the face a bunch of times and f***ing the touch. ♪ He has a power ♪ ♪ He has a power ♪ ♪ He has a job ♪ And it's like this epic, better animated than a lot of other stuff in this movie. - Yes. - And then the Prime and Megatron fight. Like the Prime and Megatron fight. So that's his big line, one shall stand, one shall fall. - Optimus says that. - Yeah, right. So Optimus takes a bunch of damage but knocks Megatron back. He's obviously gonna win this bet because he's Optimus Prime. - But then, hot rod f***ing sucks at lying. - Yeah, his dumb ass. - I already hate hot rod at this point. - Oh, you should absolutely hate hot rod. - Yeah. - I remember the character from the breakfast club that is essentially the character, right? - He's like f*** this guy. - Yeah, 'cause I hated him in breakfast club and then he literally gets Optimus killed. - Right, so Megatron uses hot rod as a human shield and I'm like Optimus to shoot. - Just do it, man. - Yeah. - The Prime gets shot four times in the gut and then still manages to uppercut Megatron off of a cliff. - Yup. - Hot rod is like, please forgive me. Prime does not forgive him. - No, he didn't say anything about it. - He could have. - Yup. - He could have said things. - 'Cause he had energy, he had enough energy to save much of all this stuff later. - They got him back to the base. - Yeah. - You could have said, "Don't worry about it." - He goes, "No, you just say shit about it." - And then, Starscream f***ing owns in this movie. (laughing) - It just kicks Megatron. - He's like, literally while he's down. - That's just Starscream. Like, that's not a movie thing. That's just Starscream. - He goes, "Oh, look at the great Megatron." He just kicks him in the stomach. - I was like, "What the s***?" - How do you feel, Mighty Megatron? And he goes, "All right, yeah." He goes, "All right, yo, space train. Let's get out of here." I was like, "Dude, he should have kicked Megatron." He's just trying to kick the one he's down. Like, he's gonna pick up his stomach. - So, if it doesn't pick him up, he leaves. - The sound wave takes him to the train. - He makes him to the train. - Megatron goes, "That sound wave." - That sound wave, the only loyal Decepticon. - Yeah. - That sound wave picked me up. - Of course, Mighty Megatron. I'm like, "Sound wave, man. Why are you so up with Megatron, man?" - Right. - So, apparently they have a space train. - Yeah. - Space train. - Why the f*** not? And the Autobots are fine. They were turning fire. - But Kay are shooting at a sitting duck and Kay ain't hit nobody. - They're like, "God damn stormtrooper." - Yes. - So the Decepticons are fling. And the next scene, Optimus is on a hospital table and the guy that did "Invincible" and "The Walking Dead," this is one of his favorite movies. - Mm. (laughs) - Yeah, like Kurtzmann. But I don't interview him and he's like, "Oh yeah, this movie was very influential in my childhood." And I was like, "No, I see that." (laughs) So, Optimus dies in front of the sad music. (laughs) Danny's like, "Prime, you can't die." - We got to touch. - And then "Prime" passes the Matrix of Power. The Matrix of Power, the leader thing. - The Matrix of Leadership. - The McGuffin of Power. - Yeah. - To ultra-magness, I'm not worthy. I'm just a soldier. And he was like, "Oh, someone'll figure it out eventually, but I gotta hand it to someone." - I mean, it was literally right here. - Like that and then also like, I wasn't worthy of what I got. - Yeah, I'm just building for whatever. But he almost drops "The Matrix" and then "Hot Rod" catches it before it hits the ground. So I kinda feel like that's the only reason he gets upgrades later. - Yep. - 'Cause he was the next person to touch it. Anyways, "Prime" turns gray and dies as sad music plays and then Danny dies inside with all the other kids in the theater. - Mm-mm. - Well, this is happening far, far away. Unicron is so mad that he blows air out of his space cloaca. - He farts. - Mm-hmm. - And then another commercial break. - Ultron who is just Galactus's butt hole. - Yeah, it is much like Galactus. - Yeah. - So-- - I've seen that fight. - Yeah. - So the Decepticons are like, we have to Genesis and wait or we'll never make it back to Cybercon. First off, you're in space, motherfucker, you mean mass. - Yeah. Look, don't question the physics of Astrotrain, okay? - Right, right. So this is sort of the survival of the physics. - Who turned to him from a train into a space shuttle. - He's an Astrotrain. - Yeah. - He's an Astrotrain, right? - No, not unlike Space Train. - His name is Astrotrain. - Or is it Space Train 099 or the anime? - Oh god, yeah. - Yeah, so I kind of feel like that's the thing. So anyways, they take a vote, survival of the fittest, all four and then all the strong bots raise their arm. And then all against it, it's all the weak bots. - Who are all the damage and stuff that I have? - Okay, well, Starscream while holding Megatron, it's like, oh, how it pains me to do this. Megatron's like, I still fucks shit. - Yeah, though there's definitely like-- - What a bet. - It's a shame you're dead. And Megatron's like, I'm right here. - It's only a flesh wound. He's like, ah, I just kind of cut up. He's dead. - I reiterate Starscream fucking rolls in this movie. - I mean, that's just his deal. - He's like, why would you trust him? - Nobody does. - So he just throws him out. - This doesn't come up in this movie, but Starscream is one of the few of them that is legitimately immortal. - Yeah. - There's something wrong with his soul. It won't go back into reincarnation or back to the cycle. - Right. - Well, eventually they realized they fucked up pretty hard and bring most of the characters back in series four. So there's season one and season two, and then this comes out, right? Season three was all these new characters that they're trying desperately to introduce. No one liked them. Starscream comes back as a ghost. Optimus Prime comes back just to wholesale at some point. And then season four rolls around 'cause these are also airing in Japan. It was like a weird, yeah, it's Japanese, but it's actually American kind of thing. Japan didn't pick up season four. They just started their own thing. They went on for another six seasons or something. Like they changed the name a little bit, but like- - Trans-- - Longer fires. - If you ever want a continuation, kind of of the series, it kept going in Japan for a while. - I had to pick up a copy of Trans Morfers. - And it's all on streaming now. You have options. Starscream nominates himself as the new leader, naturally. - Yeah, obviously. - Right, and then Soundwave nominates himself and be like, wait, destructor is actually the strongest. Shouldn't it be the strongest that rules? So everyone fights in the space train. - And they find out that Starscream isn't smart or trustworthy, but he can sucker punch with the best of them. - He absolutely can. So Megatron, who still functions mind you, is floating. And who happens to just come by out of the blue? Unicrom, testicle Galactus is just around. And he says, "I have summoned you." And Megatron is like, "Do you want summons Megatron?" - I'm like in the tone of, "I ate your bitch." - I know, but I'm thinking myself, "Bitch, you freakin' "hovering space, no way to get around. "You better be having someone something, dude." - It's hard to tell if it's stupidity or it's supreme confidence that Megatron goes into this with like what he thinks is a bargaining position. - Exactly. And look for his Orson Welles on his death pad, having no knowledge of the character that he's playing is basically just reading the lines. I'm not sure if you had the pleasure of it. - I'm doing it phenomenally. - Yeah, dealing with nerds that are talking about stuffing have no context stuff, and it just seems like sci-fi space bullshit words. - Yeah, there are people that do that to me about transformers. - Right? I gotta leave Edge and Orson Welles being like, "Okay, you're space bullshit. "I'm whatnot with the who's a what's it "and you will follow me or whatever." - Yeah. - It's really fun that Megatron spends the whole time being like, "I won't obey you." And it's like, "No, I'm gonna upgrade you "and you're gonna obey me." Like, "I won't do that anyway. "I'm upgrading you so you can obey me." - Megatron literally says, "What's in it for me?" And Unicron is basically like, "The fuck you playing with, man? "You're a goddamn space right now. "What are you?" - You're a fucking wreck and you can't go anywhere. Shut up. - And then Megatron is being tortured. The giant planet monster that could eat them is torturing them. - It's like, anyway, torturing them, yeah. - Fine, I'll be your henchmen or whatever. So he transforms them into Leonard Nimoy, AKA Galvatron. Also, the other people that got throughout, he turns them into the henchmen/minions, you know, the other damaged ones. Back in Decepticon headquarters, Starscream is getting a crown. - It's Coronation Party. - Yeah, there were no crowns before this. Like, it's just ceremonial thing. Starscream feels like he has to like be anointed king. - Yeah, because he's a fucking weirdo. - Right. - Galvatron shows up to wreck a party, turns into some kind of sick tripod mortar cannon now. - And then fucking vaporizes Starscream. - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - There is no ambiguous, like-- - I'm just gonna come back from this. - Then he's just like, any one of you motherfuckers want to speak up now? Cool, I would charge again. - Yeah, and there was a long pause and was like, all hail the new leader. - Yay. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Back on Unicron, he starts to eat moon base one and then eats two more ono pots that are trying to escape. Goodbye, jazz. This is where jazz dies. He also eats Bumblebee and the world's stupidest human. They were trying to get away, but it's okay, they don't actually die, spoilers. Nimoy Megatron is like, Dan UI called Dibs on killing them. - Uh-uh, like you can't eat my planet. - Yeah, so Unicron zaps him like he has a shock collar on. - In the meantime, the Autobots fail to cross the universe. - Yeah, Danny is like, my dad was on that ship. Oh no, Ultra Magnus reassures Danny. It's like, it's okay. He's apparently jazzed and have kids, so he doesn't need to worry about that. - Um, so, that's the concept of contact. - Bumblebee does, but they don't talk to him. - Yeah, don't worry about it. Septicons attack again. They're trying to get the dino bots onto the ship, but Grimlock apparently takes offense to the Microsh machine guy, 'cause he called him a nice dino, and Grimlock is not a nice dino, so Grimlock fucking just out of the blue uses his flame cannon to take down three decepticons. Like he's just, and then they die. - Fuck him. - Everyone gets on the spaceship and cop is piloting the ship, and he's like, this reminds me of the thing. We've got a war story, which is where we get to the part where the dino bots are like, tell war story, tell war story. - Right. - Like we actually have other shit to tell Grimlock war story, right? Me, Grimlock want story. - So they're trying to escape in the spaceship, and the decepticons are in hot pursuit. And then they're like, the decepticons are gonna dog us until they see us dead, and Ultra Magnus is like, so they're going to see that. And at this point, I'm like, did Optimus make a mistake? - No. - Like, oh, they're just gonna see us die. - Okay, type, man. (laughing) But what he actually meant is they're gonna separate the ship, so they think that they're dead. - Yeah. - That's the Star Trek. - Yeah, part of the ship explode. Everything's fine. - The classic Star Trek maneuver. - Right, they think they destroy them. The decepticons, whatever we destroy, the Matrix. But Unicron zaps, Galbatron again, and he's like, why motherfucker? I just killed them. They're like, take me back to you. - They're just like, did you see the bodies? - No. - You could just text him. It was like they're right there. - Oh, they're fuckers. - Because obviously Unicron can see everything. - Yeah, you dumb motherfucker. I said, bring me the Matrix or destroy it. You didn't do either of those fucking things. You're the worst hunchman, get the hell out. - So they shoot down Hot Rod ship and they crash land into the junk planet, right? - No, no, that's, Ultra Magnus's ship goes to the junk planet. Hot Rod and Cap go to the Quintesson court. - Oh, okay, well, it's all the same planet, but-- - It's not. - It's not? - Oh, Jesus, okay. I thought it was the same planet. - Dave, what you doing with planets? - Okay, all right, I don't know if you know about Quintesson. - I looked it up, apparently, the ones that actually built the Transformers, but whatever deep lore that is. - Continuities in this. - It really is. - And I did research for this shit. - So just a brief overview of how dipshitty stuff works around here. They encounter some alligator dudes. - And fish and a squid. - Yeah, Dinobots and then Cup and Hot Rod get separated on Quintesson planet. And you know, run into some like alligator dudes. And we're like, oh, Cup's just like, I'll give them the old universal greeting, which I'm not going to do the whole thing because it's crazy. - Bob, Bob, Bob, we've got a weep, Ninibog. - There's a whole dance. - Yeah, there is a dance. - And they're just like, they absolutely return that greeting. He's like, see, they're friendly, then they arrest them. - So they're repairing things or whatever, and as they crash on these planets. And there's this weird hijinks moment where Danny's trying on the space suit. And like, he's trying to walk around poorly. There's like this look of joy on his stupid face. - It's over there with Volkiragus and RC, yeah. - What are they trying to tell me? There's like lighthearted music after so many people have died? What was this? - I don't know what to tell you, man. - So like Cup and Hot Rod run into the Quintesson court where they see like a guy go in there before them. - Yeah. - And it's like you stay like a judge and then the Quintesson or whatever the fuck. You stay in the queue as to whatever fucking crimes. How do you find them Quintesson? And the Quintesson is like innocent. And the guy's like, sweet. And then they throw him into the shark to concentrate. - The shark to constantly. - It was like, I guess it's opposite day. - That's the deal is that he judges you innocent and then kills you anyway. - Uh-huh, yeah. - Uh-huh. - And then after they murder the one surviving person from the planet, we saw get devoured in the first scene of the movie. And they go to another commercial break. Let's throw Cup and Hot Rod in jail, move on to the next thing. Go back to junk planet. We're ultra Magnus and RC and Danny Boy are all fucking around. - The dino bots are walking around arguing and this mysterious tiny robot talks to them in rhyme and wants to get them directions. - Basically just like talks shit and then tricks Grimlock into slapping himself. Or something Grimlock's just like, you trick Grimlock, Grimlock respects them. (laughing) - But also like, don't trust the fairy folk. - Yeah, just like that. - Like the whole problem is they want to leave. - Yeah, yeah. - And they can't leave. It's just like, oh, you know where our friends are. They know about ships. Me Grimlock need ride. (laughing) - The little guy offers to give them directions to the Quintesson court. - So in the meantime, Hot Rod and Cup are judged innocent and thrown into the shark de con pit. - Right, but apparently they can get traction on the walls of this shark de con tank and they create a spinning vortex. - Well, like they can fight the shark de con a little bit, but they're not great at it. And they running out of gun power and their attacks, they can ward off shark de cons, but they can't hurt them. - Yeah, they don't have enough firepower to kill all of them. - Just fucking dino bots, just break the fucking door in and then just start eating shark de cons. - Right. - Just biting them the fucking hat. - And fucking kick their asses completely. And then eventually they were like, yeah, there's a lot of them. Why are you attacking us? You shouldn't be attacking them points at the judge and shit. Instantly, it gets real for the inhabitants of the planet. (laughing) - The fucking dude at the whip is like, oh no. - Oh fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. (laughing) - Like fucking Quintesson's just like, (laughing) - This is funny. - Right. - So the other bots, 'cause he keeps cutting back and forth or whatever, Unicron, Galvatron. So I keep fucking the names up here, but yeah, Galvatron, I have a conversation. It was like, why are you bullying me? And Unicron is like, he's not actually dead. He's on junk planet, go get him. Art the other planet you mentioned. - Yeah. - He goes and attacks the thing to get the matrix and- - Well, we have to catch up because they're fighting the junk people at first. - Oh yeah, yeah. - And then cup and hot rod and dino bots show up and cup does the universal greeting and suddenly the junk dudes are like, hey! - Yeah, I can't. - Oh, we're friends now. - Exactly, I was like, I didn't expect what I was rewatching this. There's a weird owl song in this? - Oh God, yes. I forgot there was a weird owl song in this. - Two-plus. - I was just like, oh God. - So a little bit before this Galvatron shows up, shoots all from Agnes to death. - Yeah. - He steals the matrix and then leaves 'cause he's like, eh, whatever, mission accomplished and flies back to Uticrot. But the junk people show up and they're like, my friend is dead. And we're like, okay, we can put him back together. - We can fix that. - Yeah, like, Eric Idol is like ad-libbing everything. - Yeah. - And if they just reassemble him and like, warranty, guarantee to your celebrity. - Oh, you're money back. - And I'm like, where's Optimus? Jazz, Ironhide, Prowl. You know, the rest of the people that died. - Fuck 'em. - You have somebody that can fix dead people and you really thought it's the guy right in front of him. Like, hey, you never know. - I mean, you have the wish that gives you infinite wishes and you only think, are they that dumb? - Like, hey, stranger things have happened. - So let's see. - There's not really a whole lot from this point except we all go together to the final battle. - Yeah, the junk robots have a ship too. They go off and attack Uticron. - Because they're just so stoked that somebody knows the universal greeting. - Right, let's get this. - But they have led their lives to the cause. - Right, and we'll go on this obvious death mission to do this. Galvatron shows up wearing the matrix of leadership like a fucking necklace. - Like fucking Flava Fave. - Hey, you're afraid of this, right? - I own you now. - Uticron's like, shut up. - I've transformed into a robot beyond it. So we go through a ball testicle mode to robot mode and then it starts eating a planet, I guess. - The first time I saw this, like that was a surprise. And then I'm like, wait, why am I surprised? - Yeah, literally everything turns into a robot except for the spaceship. - Very briefly, in the fight that ensues, the dino bots turn into humanoid robots and then change right the fuck back because they're pointless. - Yeah, right, wait, I wanna transform into a human. The fuck is that for? - Like, I just wanna do it and then I turn it up. - We've seen how weak Danny is. Unicron attacks Cybertron for whatever reasons. He ends up eating Galvatron, just like tosses him in his mouth like candy. - Why am I not? - Price is good. - He didn't crush him, he just goes inside the gigantic monster. I don't really know the logistics or the reason why he decided he wanted to give him access to all his internal systems, but whatever. - It turns out that all the people that's eaten so far just in the conveyor belt to go to the incinerator. That hasn't happened yet. - Unicron is attacking Cybertron, like I said. And the legitimate government of Cybertron is the Decepticons and they started to fight against the planet eaters. So the Autobots are joining forces with the Decepticons because they're destroying our home world. This makes sense, right? - The Autobots are pausing their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons. Now they're still evil, but not as evil as Unicron. They least want to save Cybertron. - And then the Dinobots show up and Grimlock yells Grimlock kick butt and literally kicks the butt of the giant planet eater. - And fucking caves it in. - Right? - Because do not fuck with Dinobot. - Yeah, these are quite literal thing. - And then the weird ship crashes through Unicron's eyeball? - Yeah. - Joke ship is not fucking around. - Nope. I think the most powerful creator of the universe are these fucking weird junk robots that ride each other. - Mm-hmm, they're all lunatics. - They're like motorcycles and we'll know when everyone gets knocked down. The one that was riding transforms into a human robot and then rides the other motorcycle back. - Yeah. - There's a lot there. Oh, there's a battle inside and outside of Unicron. Hot Rod and Galvatron are in battle. We'll get back to that in a second. They're running away from tentacles inside of this thing. - Yes, tentacles. - Right, and Danny falls down because, you know, he's in a suit and doesn't have his eyes. They all transform. - He's like, "I'm a human being, you fucking idiots." They're like, "No, your suit can transform." - And I'm a little bit like, once he transform, is he gonna shove his arms and legs up his ass or something? Like, I wonder what's-- - Someone should. - But anyways, it works. And the robots, like you said earlier, are being slowly lowered into acid and Danny sees his dad and I think Bumblebee is up there, too. - Yeah. - About to be dropped into this acid vat and his dad's like, "Shoot it." And Danny's like, "What?" "I don't know how to shit." And he's like, "You have a gun on your arm." - Like, "That's my suit, it has a gun in it." - Right. - "Don't be a moron." - And this is the part where Danny goes, "Oh shit." It's like an afterthought. It was like, "Oh, we need to put profanity in here." We don't want the kids, you saying shit. So Danny saves the day kind of accidentally. He's not looking where he's shooting. He could've just shot Bumblebee. It could've happened. - Maybe, should've? - Yeah. - Yeah, maybe a hilarious mobile flying into the acid. - Just take his face out and then he melts. He's like, "Ahh, don't you want me?" - "You kill me, you son of a bitch." - So Danny saves the day with those guys. And then Hot Rod versus Galvatron. Galvatron, of course, is winning because he's Galvatron and fuck Hot Rod. - Mm. - But as Hot Rod is getting choked out, he manages to grab the Matrix, which he is wearing a fucking talisman in front of him. And then it plays, "You've got the touch." - He actually opens up for Hot Rod. - And he transforms into Rod and his crime, which is a title bestowed upon him by Optimus Prime's disembodied voice. - He was yet to forgive him for being an idiot. This is so dumb to me. He did not earn this at all. - But he has the touch. - I guess so. - It's so rautomous. - Rautomous basically. - I feel bad even saying that, but he turns into a fucking astro-van with dooley pipes coming out of his back or some shit. And he pulls the Matrix open and blows up Unicron. Unicron is like, "Oh my gosh, shit, it's going down." He tears off his own leg to get to them. So I guess they were fighting towards his, like, like the dick area. - You hate it when somebody just matresses right in your dick. - Yeah. And that's why he don't eat spicy burritos from the truck. (laughing) - What the fuck? - I'm sure where that one's going. - So I think maybe we've all lost sleep. - A little bit, yeah, it's a long week. - But just remember, he has the touch. - He does. The music is great, but it does not fit most of his music. - No. - Unicron explodes and then without any prompting, Rautomous yells, let this mark the end of the Cybertronium Wars 'til all are won, but he has not talked to the Decepticons at all. - No, he's not. - Why would they stop? - Because they just watched him kill the planet, or with his fucking heart. - Fuck that. (laughing) - But let the war end here was a, "You're next if you don't fall the fucking line." - They lost every war they were a part of though. - Not the Autobots suck at this. - Not with Rautomous in charge. - Yeah, Rautomous is the one I know, baby. - Anyways, two into season three of the series from the '80s, if you want to know how they ended up. - Hey, they're betting 1,000. - I guess. - The important part is that none of the humans had to lose loved ones. - Yeah. - And so, yeah, you have the dismembered head of Unicrom floating around Cybertron. They play the most dramatic music imaginable. They play the transformer's theme song again during the credits. - Right. - First for us. - And that's it, role credits. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - It's a fascinating piece of history in several ways. It's always going to be notable for just having the nuts to kill the main character of the series. - Yeah, absolutely. I don't even think I need to give this a rating. It's impossible for me. - Oh, five stars. (laughs) - But how do you feel, Isaac? - I don't know. Cause like, it's definitely an important marker. - Do you feel of the American culture? - Any kind of way. - Yes. - And I have succeeded. - Yeah, you got me. - Because Hasbro realized instantly they had goofed but couldn't go back on it. - Yeah. - Cause they had already made a lot of the next season of the show and it already printed out the toys that they wanted to market as all the kids were sending them fucking hate mail. - Yeah, who would have thought that people would get up 70 kilo of the main character that everyone liked? - And the entire supporting cast. Cause like, these toys were expensive, right? - Oh yeah, yeah. - And the 80s people didn't have like a shit ton of money to throw around. Cause like the toys I had, I didn't care about genre or IP. You just had the toys and you made them play together. - Yeah. Cause I've spent their money on cocaine. - You had like super shredder punching optimists and it wasn't like a deal, right? - Yeah, awesome. - So yeah, on one hand of this movie is the shit show masterpiece that it was, it was definitely traumatizing to a lot of kids. I don't think Hollywood or Hasbro even for that matter has learned another lesson. - Yeah, I would give this movie a three, actually I give it a four, oh, 3.5 out of five. Cause going back, it does what it's supposed to do. It's supposed to sell toys and bridge between the second and third season to give Hasbro more stuff just so they didn't hit what they wanted to do. - Oh, it did. - The point of the movie made no sense. It was not a good movie. - Oh yeah, the plots bullshit. - The plots were. - I mean, it's on par with the series. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, I mean, no surprises there. - They did what it's trying to do. - I think it's a fucking touchstone. Like to me, honestly, the sheer amount of problems with it are enhancements because of how kind of runaway successful it turned and how big a part of every Transformers nerd this occupies. The fact that it's also slapdash is kind of phenomenal. - Yeah. I mean, it was, I mean, it's obviously a money grab here. - Huge sections that are even shittier than the regular show. - It's such a cult favorite now. If you're into Transformers, obviously you're gonna watch this thing, but the franchise continued. It's still going on. Like there are multiple cartoon series in different countries that existed and sped off some whatever. Obviously the Michael Bay movies really pushed it back into the consciousness of everyone, but there were still cartoon series is going on when it was going on. - So they pushed back into the consciousness maybe not for the better? - No. - I mean, they are multibillion movies right now. - Yeah, I mean, I was chill until they had a robot pee on a guy. - Right? - There's also a Go-Bots movie that came out in the same year as this, the did not do near as well. And in the new movie that just came out, they make a joke about Go-Bots, which I thought was a nice end joke for-- - Take that. - Yeah. - Yeah, we could put him down now, take it, but you know. - Yeah, I don't really don't know. I ranked this. As a movie, like if you just watch this by itself without knowing any of the backstories, obviously like scraping the bottom of the barrel. - I like-- - I don't know. I would argue that the amount of hype that it projects into you was worth a point. - Yeah. If you're into this, it's a five, right? - Oh yeah. - 'Cause you know what you're getting into. I don't know if there's like a philosophical point you can draw from this. - Oh, hell no. - No. - Other than this is what not to do. - The lesson you can walk away from this is that him Grimlock King. - There have been arguably less catastrophic things that have happened to other IP in recent memory, but not even Disney has the testicles to kill off the entire cast of it. They're not gonna kill off the entire Avengers. I make sure the Avengers have made way more money, but-- - Well, and you know, they milked the shit out of Iron Man before they let him die or the women. This was, there were two seasons of them, fuck him. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yes. - Did you're all looking closely? Bang, right in the head. - Oh yeah. That is the Transformers, the movie. Any other outro observations? - No, but that's something I felt like I needed to do to you. - And I appreciate that 'cause the depths of nerdness are deeper than I could have ever imagined. - Right. - The podcast I mentioned, "Transformers University." The first review that was on a news group that was reviewing the comic books. The guy did an interview with the guy that put that on that news group. - Nice. - Which I'm like, what? - I would recommend if you want to learn anything about Transformers to really look around TF wiki because they have a phenomenal sense of humor. - Oh, okay. - Like there are things some of the worst properties in it have, you know, they'll have parts like IMDB does kind of like where there's trivia and then mistakes or whatever. You'll find absolutely the worst thing they've ever published and the list for mistakes was this series. (laughing) - Ouch. - It's just, it's a very self-aware resource and it's very, it doesn't take this shit seriously, which is refreshing in rabid fandom. - They all. - Everybody who's really in the Transformers knows that at its core, it kind of fucking sucks. - Yeah. - And I think for a lot of people, that's kind of the fun of it. - Yeah. - Because like there aren't stakes to this. Everyone ends up at the same place and it was like, yeah. - It occupies the space in my mind that is the counterpoint to the Lord of the Rings. - Transformers is built on the crassest possible consumerism. - Yeah. - Where the Lord of the Rings was, there's a story to support the world building, which only exists to justify the lingual stuff. And like, there are Tolkien scholars that have conventions strictly for academic discussion. You don't find that shit in Transformers. - No, no, you're not writing a thesis on this. - But there are our Wikipedia flame wars. (laughing) - No one's going to detail in what these, be the Op-Hop Nity Bomb or whatever it's I guess. - Nobody, like, that kind of stuff becomes sacred in the way that like, nobody questions the universal greeting. - Yeah. - Nobody wants to talk about where that came from or why. - There isn't like a language. - It's the universal. - It's the universal greeting. - That's just what you say. - Yeah. - Everyone gets it except Hot Rod, 'cause he's dumb as hell. - Yeah, fuck Hot Rod. - Well, I guess it's all. - Yep. - And we'll see you next time for a thing that's not this. - Yeah, indeed. - And remember. - You've got the touch. - You've got the power. - You've got the power. (upbeat music) - BS Reactor is recorded in the Midwestern United States and in the presence of many robots. The studio has smart lights that respond to voice commands, but can they use casual profanity? Well, can they? Light robot? That's what I thought, slut. 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