What The Ale?
34. The Curious Death of George Reeves
ghosts, cryptids, murder, conspiracies, beer, what, the ale. Hello, friend. Hello. Welcome to What the Ale. I'm Alana. And I'm Mama J. Well, I know it's your episode this week, Mama, but do you have any what the ale moments for the week? Hmm. Let me think. Probably my only what the L is. I really need to catch up on Drag Race because I had somebody who knows that I watched Drag Race just asked me about it. And I was like, don't talk to me because I'm two episodes behind him. So I really need to get caught up on Drag Race because the last two weeks have been crazy. And that's one of my like guilty pleasures love to watch that and have been missing it. So. Yeah, I'm super fair. I am just cut up on Drag Race on Friday. And I know the finale is this Friday. So I've been trying to coordinate with my friends who haven't even been watching this season to be like, we have to watch it together Friday night. So, yeah, well, that's my thing is I want to catch up before the finale. So. Yeah, because like, you know, you're going to get it spoiled by the time you get to the finale. I'm a little. Maybe next next episode will have a debrief because I'm a little. I'm shocked by something Ru Paul did for this episode. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, yeah, don't say anything else until I catch up, but. Yeah. So, but that's my thing because, you know, that's one thing that I do for myself as a regular thing like nobody else watches it with me except for when you're home. And it's just my thing that I do for myself. And then I have a bunch of friends that watch and we all talk about it. But yeah, I'm two episodes behind. And I'm frustrated. Is it is a finale this week and I've got to catch up. So, that's what I'm planning to do on Wednesday is catch up. Nice. Yeah, I definitely need to. I didn't watch the reunion episode that aired on Friday, but I watched a like all the actual episodes. So, yeah, and I caught up on on text. So, I feel like I'm ready to go into the reading and deal with. So, I just have to watch the episodes and untuck the goes with the new episodes and then I'll begin. Nice. Well, have fun with your RuPaul journey. We'll definitely have to talk about the finale after it happens. Yeah. What about you? Any what deal. Let's see. I feel like my life has been really crazy this week, but I kind of fun what the L moment is that today is the Boston Marathon or the day we're recording. Just the Boston Marathon. So, that's been very fun and also like two friends that I know from grad school got married this weekend and I like really happy for them. So, congrats to them and go marathon Monday. I chose really hard not to go out in the public today because it's just a mess and there's people everywhere and it's. Crazy. So, I was like, I'm going to like work from home and then if I like have energy, I might go out later, but I think I'm kind of just enjoying my sweats today. So, yeah, that sounds good. Well, and you had the Boston Marathon experience before as a supporter because you had a further man at a couple years ago and you went out and supported right. Yeah, yeah, so the two years I was here for a, I had someone I knew running and so I got to like support that and do that and I feel like this year because like, there are people like I sort of know like, distantly you were running it but I feel weird just like showing up and being like, I'm supporting you and like not, I don't know, I felt a little weird about it like going by myself so I was like, man, I'll just take out. Anyway, are you drinking anything special? No, because I literally just left my office so I'm having some water. But I, with our new schedule with you being on the east coast, I need to schedule my days so that when we record I don't have anywhere to be after. Yeah, yeah, that might be a good idea or like record on weekends or something now or something. Yeah, because the time changes something. Yeah, it's like, not a lot to where like, I feel like the time change doesn't really affect you jet lag wise but it definitely affects you planning out your day wise. Yeah, when you're trying to coordinate with somebody on the opposite coast. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, anything. I am having an extra cup of caffeine today, aka cold brew because I am, I woke up and had no energy. I couldn't fall asleep till like two in the morning last night. Don't know why. And then like I had to wake up for work today. So I was just a little sleepy. So I'm having some extra coffee. Very cool. But all right, well, I'm excited to get into your story this week. I know we're getting back into our normal routine here. Yeah, so I decided to cover the death of George Reeves. Do you know who George Reeves is Superman Superman. So yeah, so he is the actor that played Superman in the TV series Adventures of Superman from 1952 to 58. And he was born on January 5th, 1914. He was born with the name George Kiefer Brewer. He was born in a woolstock, Iowa and his parents, you know, he was born like five months after their marriage. So it was very early in their relationship. And they, the marriage ended up dissolving shortly after he was born. And so his mom ended up moving to Iowa and then to Kentucky and then they eventually made their way out to California. And that's where she met Frank Bisolo. And, you know, he was somebody who ended up adopting George and, you know, they were married. And so at that time, like George never saw his bio father again after they moved to California and Frank adopted him. And then that marriage also ended in divorce, but the saddest part of this is that his mother told him that his stepdad died by suicide. And it wasn't until years later that George found out that that wasn't true. But I just don't know what kind of a parent thinks that's the best story to tell your kid. Like, if you don't want to tell them the reasons why you're separating or, you know, whatever, I don't even know what the circumstances were, you know, but if you don't want to tell your kid that some of the truth about some of those things. Fine. But don't tell them something that's so traumatic as, you know, your stepdad who loved you committed suicide. Yeah, that's actually insane. Yeah, and then he didn't find out until years later, but, you know, so that means that was time he probably lost with him that maybe he would have wanted to see him. And then, you know, he's got to have a lot of anger towards his mom too for that lie because that's a huge lie. Totally. Well, to say something so, like I feel like saying died by suicide is so much worse than like he died in an accident or like I don't know there's something like even more messed up to me that it was like he died by suicide. I don't know. Because people, you know, children, especially, you know, even if you're in high school or something, a lot of times feel guilt like is there something I did, or didn't do that drove them to that and of course it's nobody's fault, but you know people question those kind of things. So, to me, it's just a horrible story to tell anybody ever. If it's not true, because it's terrible enough when it is true and people have to deal with all of those kinds of thoughts. So just really sad that his mom did that. So, he started acting and singing in high school and he continued performing on stage when he was a student at Pasadena Junior College. Cool. And, and he met his first wife, Elinora needles. During that time when he was working at Pasadena playhouse. But they divorced like 10 years after they had gotten married and they didn't have any children together. Now, Alana, do you know what one of his like really big movies was I mean he was a small part but he was a suitor for somebody. A suitor for somebody in a big movie. Yeah. Hmm. You know, I don't know. But I feel like it's going to be something I will be like oh that was him like as soon as you say it. Yeah, so apparently he wasn't gone with the wind. Hmm. And that was you know I've only seen the movie once so I would not have remembered him anyways because I was a kid and didn't probably didn't really know who he was. Was he like one of the first like love interest people that like died or whatever because doesn't scar like go through like four men before she finally gets with red isn't that the deal. Yeah, I don't know which one he is but yeah so he was one of the suitors it was a very small role for him. But you know he'd get to meet Scarlett O'Hara and be a suitor for her which I think is very cool because I didn't know that. Yeah, I haven't seen that movie since I was maybe like 14 so I definitely wouldn't have remembered. Yeah, I saw it when I was a kid. Did I see it with you when you were 14 and I remember or do you watch the sports. I did. I probably fell asleep because I really don't remember watching it with you. I remember it so vividly because it was like extra credit and eighth grade to watch it. And so we like Netflix ordered it where they mailed us to the DVD and then we like watch it. I remember those days ordering. Yeah, I really don't remember watching it the second time. It's very long. Yeah. So after he filmed gone with the win he went back to Pasadena playhouse and apparently he was offered a contract by an agent from Warner Brothers. Oh wow. You know he fulfilled several roles right away so that by the time gone with the win was actually released. He already had five other movies come out under the Warner Brothers contract. So that's how fast he was like getting these roles but you know it seems like they weren't really big roles or like he wasn't gaining a lot of fame from the roles. And so he was really struggling to find roles that would like advance his career. And over time the Warner Brothers agent ended up dissolving the contract with him and he started working with 21st Century Fox and Paramount Pictures. And yeah it was somewhere in there that that's when he changed his name to a stage name. Now he was I think throughout everything that I read he kept struggling like feeling like even though he was getting some work you know that it wasn't enough work or it wasn't the kind of work he wanted to do that he felt good about. Or that he felt was like going to advance him or you know he was really proud of so he decided to take a break from acting and he enlisted in the army in 1943. And some people have said that he was inspired to enlist because of his role in the movie so proudly we hail. But when the war was over he returned to Hollywood and then but by then you know he found out that the Hollywood production had slowed down significantly while he was away. So there was just not a lot of work there was not a lot of projects being worked on. So you know there were times where he didn't he couldn't find any work at all. And then there were times where you know he would get little parts here and there but nothing that was going to be consistent. Yeah. And then this is around the time that he got divorced so is around 1950. And then in 1951 is when he was offered the role of Superman in the TV series Adventures of Superman. And I guess he was like a little hesitant to take the role. Because I guess at the time a lot of people consider TV work like not very important and not very many people would see it. And so it wasn't seen seen as like yeah like distinguished or good work you know it was almost like embarrassing if you took TV work. Which is interesting because I would think you'd want to take any work where you're getting paid in your name and your faces out there but. I mean I don't know though like there are definitely some big actors that do TV now. But I feel like a lot of the actors that do TV you don't necessarily know their names or as actors and movies you know their names. Yeah or the actors start in TV and then they work their way up to the movies. Yeah. So I could see him seeing that as a step down. Yeah. Yeah if he's already been in movies yeah I can see it in a second. So the filming of this like they were like very tight on their scheduling so they would make two episodes every six days. And then you know they would have like multiple scripts that were being filmed simultaneously in order to like take advantage of whatever the sets or props that were out or whatever so. You know they might they might schedule you know or schedule to do like scenes from three or four different episodes but like at this one particular scene. So it was it was a pretty stressful schedule and they you know they had a lot that they had a remembering keep track of because they were filming multiple episodes at a time sometimes. So it did seem pretty stressful. And I guess his career Superman actually began with a role in Superman and the mole man, mole men, and that was a film that was intended to be a B picture, but it was also the pilot for the series. Yeah so but you know like I said immediately after they finished that which is the pilot, they started production on the first episodes and they shot. All of the first seasons episodes over 13 weeks in the summer of 1951. Oh wow that's pretty. Yeah so the series went on the air that following fall. And you know he became a national celebrity. But, well and then ABC ended up purchasing the show which gave him like a national broadcast. So you know he did get greater visibility and a lot more people are seeing the show. But it sounded like he was worried that all of his fans were kids and he was very, you know worried or just unhappy with the fact that he didn't really think he had many adult fans. Because he saw it as like it's like you know a show that kids would watch so he saw it as like you know he is still not in line with where he wanted his career to go or what he was hoping for him. Yeah which is sad because you know I mean you think of all the Superman stuff that's come out since that time. And I mean I know more adults that are into that stuff than I do kids you know. But at the time you just couldn't see how big it was going to be. Well at the time more comic books I mean they must have been fairly new right like. I feel a lot of the comics kind of got their start and. Like the 50s or the maybe the 40s but I feel like. Yeah I wonder if it makes sense it's just. Yeah it's interesting because I feel like a lot of my friends are big superhero nerds. Yeah for sure. But when I just I mean I mean most of my friends are too so it's very like adults are very into it these days. Maybe back then you know you weren't really supposed to admit that you like that kind of stuff I don't know. Yeah I was like seen as unprofessional or immature. Yeah. Now I know I already talked about the busy filming schedule. But they also had this 30 day clause in all of their contracts. Which meant that the producers could demand their exclusive services for a new season on four weeks notice. And that meant that it was really hard for them to take any long term work so like major films were kind of. Out of their you know they didn't have that really as an option because there's no way that they could do work on like a. A longer film a major film with this 30 day clause which they could just be called back so. You know I think people saw it as like the. You know they were trying to keep all these actors in check and to themselves so that they couldn't work. And so knowing that he was already feeling like his career could be getting stuck here. You know having this clause in the contract made that even more true because he really couldn't take any. With the jobs you know. Yeah and then. You know obviously he was getting paid regularly he was making money but in order to. Kind of supplement his income a little bit earn a little bit extra he did start doing personal appearances. And you know they say he had a real affection for the for the kids and the young fans and he really tried to. You know present as Superman and like a good role model and so like he wouldn't smoke cigarettes around the kids. And then he eventually ended up quitting smoking, which is good. I mean different. Yeah and then he was pretty private about his personal life romantic life he would be very discreet. And so you know but he just tried to be a good role model and I don't remember if you. If you ever heard that there was one appearance that he was at where a kid. Like brought a gun and like was like wanted to see if he could actually stop bullets or whatever. Yeah and so you know but he even that like you know where his life was at risk he handled it really well. And he just told the kid. Hey you know we can't do that here because what if the bullet you know bounced off of me and hit one of the other kids here. You know so he talked the kid out of firing the gun. You know but that's pretty scary to think a kid was able to bring this gun. Trying to shoot Superman just to see if he could you know have the bullets bounce off of them. Yeah I'm like who does to him for not freaking out honestly I don't think I'd be. I would I'm sure he was freaking out but he was trying to stay professional but he handled that so well I think. And then you know there's a documentary called look up in this guy the amazing story of Superman. And in that Jack Larson said that when he first met Reeves he told him that he enjoyed his performance and so so proudly we hail. And Reeves said that if Mark sanrich had not died he would not have been in this monkey suit. Because you know apparently there is somebody else who is supposed to be there. But you know I'm calling it a monkey suit was just another way of saying like he felt like he was just out there to entertain kids and he didn't really have any adult fans. So you know he worked on some other things and you know he was really trying to kind of come up with some of his own projects. And you know but he just you know it was hard to get funding for some of the projects he was working on. And you know and then he was also you know working on wanting to you know he wanted to serve as like the national chairman for that. My husband he had gravis foundation, which you know that was like a disease that you know somebody in his life had been impacted by. So that you know he would work to raise money for things like that. And so during the seasons you know he would be filming like on that crazy schedule but he would try to do other things to you know kind of have other things that give him like sense of purpose and all that. So you know after two seasons he was like very dissatisfied with the salary and the one dimensional nature of the show and the character. And so he wanted to quit. And so the producers did start looking elsewhere for you know somebody to like take his place and during that time he did establish like his own production company and all of that. But they offered him. They offered him an increase in his salary so. Yeah and I really want to start saying at the time he was making like 5000 a week, which is like 54,000 into these dollars. That would be so nice. Yeah, I was going to say that's a pretty damn good paycheck if you ask me. Yeah so he was able to get the increase in salary so he came back. I'm going to at least. Yeah. And then. There was like in 57. The producers were considering making like an actual film. Superman and the secret planet. And there was a script that was written by David Chandler. And he was somebody that had written for like a lot of TV shows. But then and the negotiations fell through and so they just began the new series was with 26 episodes but the movie would never go into production. Okay. Well, and then I was just going to say, you know, before we go to his dad, I was just going to share that, you know, he did appear as Superman. I love Lucy. Which is I feel like I've heard about that. Yeah. I don't think I've seen that. I know I mentioned that when he was in high school and like at the. I was in a class at hand play house that you know he was singing act. But he was on. He did like sing a performance song with Tony Bennett on his show. And I was like, Oh, I never knew that like I didn't realize that he was a singer too. Super cool. Yeah, but after the I love Lucy show, he said that Superman was no longer a challenge to him. And he said, he said to a friend, Bill Walsh, he said, here I am wasting my life. Oh, man. Okay. And I just, you know, I feel sad for him because, you know, again, I don't think he realized the impact it was going to have long term. Yeah, you just couldn't see it. And so, you know, I just feel bad for him. Yeah, that's hard. I mean, but you also think about like I feel like a lot of people were talking about. Somewhere recently they were talking about. Oh my gosh, the original actor who played Frankenstein, which is escaping my brain right now. Boris Karloff, there we go. But he like lived in this apartment in New York and he like loved to like interact with kids and stuff in the apartment. But like people were so afraid of him because he was Frankenstein. Yeah, that like trick or treaters would never come to his door and like, yeah. And like you think about that with like this type of situation where, yeah, he probably had a lot of trouble escaping like that Superman persona. Well, and then try to have to be a good role model everywhere you go all the time. I think that would be exhausting too. I mean, you know, I try to be a good person. I try to live a good life, but if I knew people were watching me all the time, that would feel tiring, you know. Oh yeah, exactly. I would get burned out so quickly. Yeah. And honey, buddy, I think I misspoke earlier when I said he married Leonor lemon back then. That was 20 manics. And they split in 58 and that's when he started dating. They call her a society play girl Leonor lemon. And so they were scheduled to marry it on June 19th and they were supposed to spend their honeymoon in Tijuana. Wow, cool. Yeah, which is, you know, when I was. My son was different. I said, maybe back then it was different. Well, no, but like when I was a, you know, kid I lived in Southern California, so we got a Tijuana all the time like we would go there just for the day and go shopping or, you know, definitely when I was a little bit older, we go down there and go to the club. And, you know, or we go to Rosarito and like get a little resort by the beach. I mean, so, you know, it's a fun place to be back then. I know it's probably. Yeah, it's probably a little better kept back then. But yeah, I definitely spent a lot of time in Tijuana and had a fun every time. So anyways, yeah, just more where he was trying to get some projects out on his own and just things were not working out well. And they were going to do like a stage show with Superman and tour Australia. But he just really, you know, he didn't want to really reprise the role again. So. But this is where I'm going to get into his death. So there are not a lot of details. There is, you know, different theories. I mean, it has been ruled a certain way, but like there are different theories into what could have actually happened. So he did die of a gunshot wound to the head in the upstairs bedroom of his home. And this was between 1 30 and 2 a.m. on June 16, 1959. And his fiance. Lanor lemon was having some party guests over to the home. And so they were all there at the time of the shooting. Wow. Okay. So Lanor said that she was in the living room with the guests at the time of the shooting. But some people have said that. That Fred Crane, who, you know, was one of Reeves's friends, they had worked on gone to the wedding together, gone with the one together. And then he said that either lemon was either inside or indirect proximity to Reeves bedroom at the time of the shooting. And according to Crane, you know, even though he wasn't present, he said that somebody named Bill Bliss, who is there told Melissa, Melissa Trent, after the shot rang out. Well, Bliss was having a drink that Lynn or lemon came downstairs and said, tell them I was down here, tell them I was down here the whole time. So, okay. So, um, there are a few things that were very strange. So, some of the physical findings that were reported by the investigators of the LAPD was that there were no fingerprints on the gun. And there is no gunshot residue on Reeves's hands. Now, the gunshot residue, some people say that they may have not looked for a gunshot residue because that kind of testing wasn't routinely performed in 59. I mean, it was, it was technology that they had, they knew they could, but that it wasn't like a routine thing they did. So, you know, it may just be that they didn't test for that but there were no fingerprints on the gun. So, and he wasn't wearing gloves. Huh. He wasn't wearing gloves or anything. No. And then the bullet that killed him was recovered from the bedroom ceiling. And the special casing was found under his body. There were two additional bullets that were discovered embedded in the bedroom floor. Okay. And then it said all three bullets had been fired from the weapon that was found at his feet, but all the witnesses said they only heard one gunshot, which is strange because there were definitely three bullets fired that. Or maybe I don't know if we know it was that night or not, but there were definitely three bullets fired, but they say they only heard one. Interesting. And I know they were having a party so there were people there but there was no four signs of and force entry or any other physical evidence that somebody else had been in that room with him. That was like somebody that was not a party goer that was invited there. Right. Okay. But even though there were some questions, his death was still officially ruled a suicide. And that was pretty much based on the witness statement saying that he was up there alone. But the autopsy report does say that it's a suicide. Okay. But you said, okay, my question is if the bullet was in the ceiling, are they assuming he shot, not getting graphic, but he would have had to shoot like from a very, like sharp angle, probably. Right. Like, yeah, I would think so, but I don't really know, but. Yeah, I mean, if it ended up lodging into the ceiling, it must have went straight through his head into the ceiling. Yeah, obviously people knew that he wasn't quite happy with his career. Lemons said that he had been depressed and he would say that he had a failed career, even though I think anybody that was looking from the outside would not agree that he had a failed career. I mean, he was he was admired by a lot of people. He was working study, you know, but he felt like a failure, according to her and other people have said that he made comments like that. So, you know, that, that part is probably true. Um, and, um, newspapers and like wire service reports said that Sergeant VA Peterson, who works for the LAPD said, this lemon blurted. He's probably going to shoot himself a noise was heard upstairs. She continued. He's opening a drawer to get the gun. A shot was heard. See there. I told you so. And that all seems very strange, because, you know, some people say she was near the room or in the room at the time. And then this is counting is that she was like basically narrating that he was up there killing himself in front of all her party guests. Yeah, almost like, like what was said before he left the room. Like did they say? Well, that's what I didn't see anything about like, you know, had he been like at the party and then went upstairs or was she just entertaining her friends and he was staying out of the way like I don't know any of those details. You know, I definitely know there have been times where, you know, I've had a, I get together with friends and my partner would be in the different room because, you know, like giving me my time. So it could have been something like that, but it really didn't say. Um, but if she said all that, that's clear that she knew he was going to do that or she knew somebody was up there doing that to him. Yeah, like, I wonder like this is going to sound really morbid but like what if he had said something like I might as well just like shoot myself and like walked away. And then she was like joking but didn't realize. But then you would think she would react with like, Oh my God, you know, like, I mean, if that's true that she knew that the sound of the drawer was opening and that's where they kept the gun or something you would think she'd run up there and try to stop him. But, I don't know. Um, just interesting. So he isn't heard at the Mountain View Cemetery and Mausoleum in Altadena, California. And he in 1960 he did receive the Hollywood Walk of Fame star on Hollywood Boulevard. Cool. And again, an 85 he was posthumously named one of the honorees by DC Comics and the companies 50 at the anniversary publication 50 who may DC great. So again, you know, he didn't realize how much people really loved him and his work, which is sad that he never got to see that. Now, his mother did think that, you know, they ruled it a suicide too quickly. And so she retained an attorney named Jerry Giesler. And he did go ahead and petition for them to reinvestigate it as a possible homicide. And so they did do a second autopsy at his request. And the autopsy report was basically the same except for they said there was a series of bruises of unknown origin around his head and body. Hmm. Which, you know, I think that's very interesting because we're saying this is a suicide. Where did those bruises come from? You know, like that doesn't seem to make a lot sense or it doesn't. That doesn't seem to be in line with the suicide. Yeah, I mean, like they were like fresh bruises, they weren't like something that could have just been there because he went like biking or something. Yeah, it sounded like it was fresh if they were going to include it in the autopsy, but then a month later after they, you know, couldn't find any direct evidence contradicting their original finding. They didn't just say that, yeah, it, you know, is probably self-inflicted. And so, um, there are two actors, Alan Ladd and Gig Young, and they were both like really skeptical that that report, you know, was accurate. They think someone, you know, I don't know, they, they just feel like something's fishy behind that. And then Reeves's friend Rory Calhoun told a reporter, no one in Hollywood believe that suicide story. And so there was this other little thing that, you know, it could be a possible explanation, which is, you know, his previous spouse, Tony Maddox. You know, she, you know, she was, had been in the wife of the MDM Vice President Eddie Manix. And, you know, it was like that Reeves had had like an affair with his wife. And so that was what that relationship was. And then, so, you know, people, some people say Eddie Manix might have killed him and then some people say that Eddie Manix had ties to the mafia and so that he ordered somebody else to kill him. But apparently that's what most of the friends or Hollywood elite people that know all these people thought. And then, and just popular culture, fun fact is in 2006, the movie Hollywood land. Did you ever see that? No, I never saw that. Yeah. It had been been afflict us playing Reeves and 80 Adrian Brody was like an investigator. It was like a fictional character. But it was based on the real life detective Milo's Viriglio, but they kind of like dramatized the investigation of his death and the film suggests the three possible scenarios that either it was accidental shooting by lemon. You know, that she wasn't around that she accidentally shot him or murdered by an unnamed hitman under the orders of Eddie Manix or that it was like possibly a suicide. But yeah, I mean, to me, like it can't be a suicide if he doesn't have, there's no fingerprints on the gun. Like somebody wiped the gun and that was after he was dead. So to me suicide doesn't make any sense. Well, and the only way that I could see maybe suicide making sense and they're not being fingerprints on the gun is if like lemon had like held the gun or grabbed the gun and then was like, oh, like crap, I can't do that. And so she like rubbed it real quick and like put it down. Like, you know, that is like something I could see happening. But again, like it is, if it was a suicide you could say like I was distraught and like ran to my partner who was dead, you know, like it doesn't have to be. You know what I mean, like, I don't know. I don't know, but if you believe that one account, it just sounds like she narrated it and then was like, oh, there he goes. He's dead. You know, she didn't seem all that distraught. Yeah, I mean, did she seem distraught in the other sort of accounts? Like, did she say? No, no, it was just. Yeah, you know, the one account was that she was telling people to say she wasn't in the room or near the room. And then the other account was that she like narrated what was happening as it was happening. So, you know, the two accounts that are suspicious kind of stories, those are the two accounts and both of them seem like she's a shady character. Yeah, definitely it has more questions than answers to me. But yeah, I do wonder also because there's another Hollywood murder that I'm interested in covering, so I might do that soon. But in that case, like, it was like the, you know, President of MGM came and like took stuff out that could have caused a scandal. And so that part of my brain is like, was there something like that? Like, did the studio get involved? Like, you know, I don't know. It's just, it's all very interesting. Yeah. Well, I don't know if anything was taken out because, you know, with the people being there for the party, I mean, probably, you know, there wasn't a lot of time for them to like clean a scene or something if they have all those people in the house. Mm hmm. Yeah. I don't know, but I think it's suspicious. I don't think it was suicide, even though I agree, he sounded like he might have been depressed or at least like, you know, unhappy with his crew path or whatever, but he did seem like he kept trying to make things happen with that regard. So, you know, it didn't seem like he was hopeless, you know, it seemed like he was still working hard to try to find a way to get like involved in different kind of films and everything. Yeah, I mean, it definitely sounds like he was still working and like trying to work and do the things that he, you know, like it doesn't sound like he was like a person that was planning to take his own life, but I got me, you can't always tell. So. Yeah, that's very interesting. Yeah. But it's, you know, I hate to hear somebody die so young. I mean, he's about my age and, um. Yeah, and, and again, to die, I'm not even realizing the impact that his work had. You know, he thought he was just an actor for a kid's TV show and didn't realize that so many adults were big fans and, you know, that it led to so many other things, you know, I mean, gosh, how many like. DC super hero movies are there and specific ones that have Superman. I mean, he had a big impact with, well, no, it's like how many supermans have their been now, like there's like four or five like reiterations of Superman, like it's just become a big, a big thing. So, but that's the story of George Reeves. Well, thanks for sharing. Definitely a sad story. Um, I had, I had heard like a little bit about it. Like maybe there was a podcast or something that I'd like covered at one point, but I didn't know details so. And it just seems like there's so many stories like that where, you know, famous people, I'm diamond seriously and the fact that they're so quickly ruled a suicide. It's always shocking to me. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Sure, for sure. Well, I guess getting in some housekeeping things friends keep an eye out for our regularly scheduled episodes every Wednesday. We're going to be getting our April. Keg to y'all soon. We are on Instagram at with the old pod. You can check us out pretty much anywhere you get podcasts. Just search with the old podcast. 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