Film Sack
Film Sack 678: Blue Steel
On this week's filmsack, we watch Blue Steel! A rookie in the police force must engage in a cat-and-mouse game with a pistol-wielding psychopath who becomes obsessed with her.
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- 1h 40m
- Broadcast on:
- 17 Nov 2024
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New customers on first three month plan only. Taxes and fees extra. Speed slower above 40 gigabytes of details. Okay, just let it go. Just let it go. I don't want anybody to get hurt. I don't want to hurt you. Don't come any closer. Okay. They don't tune a salad. No bread. This is Film Sack. Oh, sure. Greetings and welcome back to Film Sack. This is Film Sack, minding the very depths of film entertainment for all mankind. Episode 678. My name is Scott Johnson. And I'm joined today by Brian. Last time he touched Ron Silver, he turned into purple goo done away. We'll see. Oh, hi. This week on Film Sack, we disappoint our daddies by joining the big city, boys and girls in blue. When we strap on, our still shooter and Lacey bras and flash our badges to prove we are no victims in this 1990 crime thriller star and our favorite, this guy won't die already. Scream queen. Jamie Lee Curtis, now surviving on freebie. The streaming service you will forget all about as soon as it is gone. Just like old world cap was his name. My building time size more. He's got a gun. Anywho. Well, I lie here feeling the cold grocery store floor on my face, trying to not get shot in the crossfire between the prettiest cop I've ever seen and a guy with the dirtiest shirt. I've ever bore witness to. I am thinking I forget to take my old lady rollers out of my hair before I went out in public in my pajamas and slippers. Oh, look, a grocery store floor gun has appeared. Perhaps I will become a big city supervillain. Oh, trat. He beat me to it. Well, again, Daisy. Randy. I don't understand how the stock market works. Stitch a bunch of guys yelling in a room. Money. Money. Money. That's great. Well done as always. Also with us, Randy, we call him Old Slow Aim Silver Jordan. Aloha, Scott, Brian, Brian. Thanks for coming to this. Hold on, let me check. Five hundredth morning meeting where we are cops and I'm briefing you. Now, listen up. Every aspect of your life is my business. I own you. If you put on pantyhose, I want to know about it. I really want to know about it. If you've got to run in those pantyhose, I want to know about that too. Just don't throw them away immediately. You can use pantyhose to hold onions or garlic for some reason that I don't think anyone has ever understood. You could also put your aromatics in a loosely woven sweater fabric. But really, you should use that to soak up blood that you want to rub all over your face. Now, get out there and find the killer. Or you're going to direct traffic on the BQE for the rest of your career. Just make sure you follow these three rules. Number one, when a cop shoots a suspect dead in front of multiple witnesses, definitely don't detain the witnesses or make their identities known to the shooting cop. And definitely don't check to see if any of them have a warm 44 magnum in their pocket. Number two, when you start a new cop and immediately a killer starts putting her name on bullets, don't even ask her about her brand new boyfriend at first. That would be rude. Number three, when you go to arrest your suspect because you have the ironclad evidence of the testimony of a police officer, make sure you argue with his attorney slowly and quietly, and then just leave them alone together. Maybe they'll kiss. Oh, I hope they do. Oh, you gishy. I hope they kiss. All right, well done. Let's finally end here with Brian. We found our brightness in him a bit. Oh, sure did. So I started the week thinking before I watched the movie that I was going to use Kenny Roger's song, and it was going to be the chorus. You've picked a fine time to leave me blue steel. Couldn't really come up with anything else to go along with it. But I settled on this one right here. My first day on the job, I was put to the test. I couldn't wait to pin the NYPD badge upon my chest. But when I had to shoot a perp and the evidence you steal, what's the deal? Are you a gun clepto for real? And now you're here up in the space. I got to remember to lock the door when I leave my place. And you thought that I would swoon over a helicopter ride. Did we glide? Why was it so quiet inside? No, you must go. Back out the door. Don't scratch my name now. Unbullet casings anymore. I shot you in the arm and watched you bleed on your new tie. And did you die? Did angels come down from the sky? Oh, I decried. How'd you survive? I swear I shot you in the chest four times. Or was it five? You just keep not being dead when I feel you full of lead. How'd you survive? How'd you survive? Whoa. It took all the strength I had to leave that hospital bed. And then I clocked my fellow officer in the hospital I fled. I checked 24-hour fitness, but they said you're too intense. You're the angriest stock broker. If you don't mind my two cents and you're alive. How'd you survive? Everyone else in this movie takes a bullet. Yet somehow you revive. You're like the energizer bunny. Maybe it's gunfire on which you thrive. Why are you alive? How'd you survive? How'd you survive? Big finish. Oh, man. Love that. Oh, Richard. Richard. Cheese level finish. Right. A reminder to our YouTube listeners you'll want to check out the podcast version of the show because YouTube won't let us play those songs. But all the listeners get it. Wha-wha-wha-wha. Excellent work as always. It was wonderful. And thank you very, very much for pointing out more inconsistencies. Yeah, yeah. As if there weren't enough in this movie, right? Yeah, I actually, I feel like I'm going to now spend the next hour walking back. It sounds like I felt about this movie. Yeah, there's a few. I got a lot of, I got conflicting opinions. But let's in my own head. But let's listen to what Fake Fletcher says about the film Blue Steel. Or no. Yeah, Blue Steel. Sorry. I almost said Blue Thigh. I was thinking Blue Thunder. What the hell's wrong with me? All right, Blue Steel, everybody. On this week's film sack, we watch Blue Steel. A rookie in the police force must engage in a cat and mouse game with a pistol-wielding psychopath who becomes obsessed with her. Um, only she can get away with that, Maliki. Maliki did die. I don't know why I did that. I left it in. Anyway, yeah, Blue Steel, Catherine Bigelow joint. We saw her strange days. This is the last time I think we saw a movie she directed. Oh, yeah. And just about, I think it was the other one. Maybe the other one. We didn't do, we didn't do the one with the bomb on Jeremy Renner. What was the other one? We did, we did her very next movie after Blue Steel. Oh, okay. So this was '90s. A '90s then? I mean, '90s something, right? Yeah, '90s would have been mid or low '90s, 'cause '99 or '97 was, I can't remember exactly. It was Strange Days. I don't know. I don't know what else we've seen. I don't know. What was it? Catherine Bigelow directed Point Break. Oh, Point Break. I was thinking that was before this, but that makes sense. Yeah, I have that wrong in my head. There's a lot of that going on with this movie, because this is Jamie the Curtis in a movie that I would have, if you'd have held me down and put a gun to my face and said, "Scott, you and everyone you care about "will die right now if you don't get this right." And you said, "Now, was this before, "or was this after a fish called Wanda?" I would have said, "Oh, it was before." It was clearly before, before, right? It's 100% not before. It's many years later. It doesn't make any sense in my head. Three or four years later, like, it's like, what was that? '86? Oh, no, only like two years. '86, '87. Okay, '86, wasn't it? If that's the case. No, a fish called Wanda came out in '88, and I know this because I remember what grade I was in. It was like such a, it was one of those that I wanted to see it, because it had John Cleese in it. And I was not allowed to see it. It's one of the greatest films ever made, but it just feels out of time compared to this. It's not the same Jamie Lee Curtis. She's almost like, she's only a couple of the portrayal here, and this is on her for being such a good actress, by the way. I'm not, this is not a, this is not a diss. I actually think this is cool. She's only a few steps away from like a very vulnerable, what's her name in the Halloween movies. Like just, it's closer to that than it is to Wanda, which is a way more mature, for lack of a better term role. And we're only four years away from the Schwarzenegger true lies business. Like that's, it just doesn't, it feels out of time to me. And I don't know why, it was a weird. This feels like one of those mid 80s, like thriller, thriller films, you know, cop thriller. I'm trying to think of another good example. Like, everything I'm thinking of is, is like an undeadly ground or a, Well, what was the, what was the moment with, Kurt, not a Michael Douglas that we saw that was the, it was, it's a, a Ridley Scott movie, but it doesn't feel like one. And we saw it recently, and it was around the same time. And he was a cop, and it was a lot of blue lighting. Okay, I can't remember the name of the movie. Randy'll know this, because I'm sure he's looking for it right now. But I can't remember the name of the damn thing. But anyway, it reminds me of that. Michael Douglas doing cop shit. Michael Douglas doing cop shit. Yeah, we saw this, it's a Ridley Scott movie with Michael Douglas in it. We just saw it. Black rain, black rain, black rain. Oh my gosh, that's been, how long has that been? That's, that is good example, because that is what this feels like. It feels like one of those, you know, not a buddy cop thing per se. But I mean, obviously this isn't a buddy cop thing. It's Jamie Lee kind of on her own. But there was this rent, run of these kinds of things in the 80s and early 90s that were, there's a cop. And then there's somebody maybe on the force that doesn't pay attention to them or doesn't, doesn't, or is playing both sides or has a secret agenda going or whatever. And this feels like it's just cut from that same, that same formula. I think, I think the reason that it's hard to place this is because Jamie Lee Curtis is the star of this movie playing a role of the brand new rookie cop. She's about 23, 24 years old, the character. Like she still has dinner with her parents regularly. And Jamie Lee Curtis is like 31, 32. And so like, it just feels like this must be earlier in the 80s. A hundred percent. Yeah. She's, like I say, she's got that really young, she's always beautiful, but she just got this look to her that feels like she just finished Halloween 2 or something. Right. Very fresh. Yeah. Like she just got done and, and then this feels, her portrayal here feels quote unquote innocent for lack of a better term. It's like a more, I don't know optimistic, despite being beaten down. She seems to be very optimistic even when her best friend is murdered right before her eyes. Yeah. She cries like two tears ago. She hits kids. Yeah. She's like, all right, let's move on. Yep. Next scene. Also, I got all kinds of questions about the parents. We got, you know, some famous parents, or at least the mom is. It's a Ellen Bernstein. Ellen, am I right? Is that the right lady? I'm getting that wrong. Am I ever wrong? No, no, you're talking about Kai Nguyen. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I always mix those two ladies up. Louise Fletcher. That's who I mean. Louise Fletcher. Yeah. Nick Ratchet. Yeah. Nurse Ratchet. That's it. I always get them mixed up. You got other. By the way, you got this whole parental thing where she's being abused by the dad. And it's a subplot that goes nowhere. It is weird. Wow. It is. Well, we're asked the whole movie. We're constantly asked the Megan Turner's character is constantly asked. Well, I want to be a copy such a pretty lady. And she goes, she comes up with different shit every time. She's like, "Ah, because I want to smash heads. Ah, because I want to shoot people." She only gets honest later on and goes, "Because the people like him and my jackass dad." Yeah. Well, and also, it feels like there must have been a little more for Kai Nguyen to do. You know, like they're like, they made a movie where she was in trouble. You know, like her older husband was actually about to kill her or something. And they just like dropped some of that, but kept in some of the filler to make the runtime. You know, I like there's just there. You're right on the edge of something really, really intriguing with Louise Fletcher and her. What's your dad's name? It's Philip Bosco. Philip Bosco. Philip Bosco, like he has this and everybody in this movie. Every man in this movie has this like brooding intensity, you know? But especially Philip Bosco and for some reason, Ron Silver. Like, I just wanted, like you, I wanted a little bit more or nothing. Like, you could have just had the parents be the people that she had dinner with. And like, I'm proud of you, I'm not. And that's enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's told from Jamie Lee Curtis's characters, you know, from her perspective. And I like it and I like how it was filmed as well. It was filmed as a very intimate film. It's mostly about relationship to relationship, including the crazy-ass relationship with Ron Silver's character. And so I didn't think too much about it. Well, there's only two. There's supposed to be like outsiders to the man world. Right, right, right. But it's only two perspectives. This whole, it's interesting you say that because it is literally just two perspectives, the entire movie that we'll only, you only see it through Jamie Lee Curtis's eyes when she's in the room with other people. And you see it through Ron Silver's eyes when he's going crazy in the hotel rooms and like in the gym and everything. Yeah. And that's the only time you ever see anybody do anything is when one of these two people are around. Yeah. And that's always interesting in a movie to me because it means we are not meant to know where Mr. Krabs went for the last four hours. We don't know where he is. Right. I love that. Right. You know? I love his character's name. Nick Mann. Wow. He's spot on, buddy. He's spot on. He's a young boy in this. It's weird to see. He also feels out of time. This feels pre-curgen. It's totally not. Yeah. Yeah. No. This feels like you're seeing him for the first time in a movie, right? Like really? Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. I mean, you're not really though. He did shit before this. He was busy. But it feels like he's at the, he's at a crossroads. Like he could go one of several ways from here. I'd be the romantic leader. Well, I'd be the bad guy. Yeah. Like to play. Or the weirdo or whatever. Which is what I want to get back to the parents just second because the, the older parents are important because this movie includes one of my favorite tropes, which is have the villain over for dinner. Oh boy. That was rough. Yeah. Yeah. And, and there's a, there's a, you don't realize it at first. It's a, the brilliance of this film. You don't realize at first that it's going to be a guilty and sin story. Like you just, like you're thinking, oh, this is just going to be a straight up police procedural. Yeah. And then it turns into this thing where like the bad guy kind of has some magic. And he's able to get away with doing things that, you know, that would are ridiculous. And like you just check your brain out and go along for the ride. It's great. And the villain over for dinner is where it really all hangs by the biggest threat. If you're the kind of person that just can't take that unreality, it's, you're going to have a bad time. For me, I was so swept away when, when he's there and she can't just like draw on him because her parents are there, right? Right. She don't, she wants to get him out and deescalate. And the tension was amazing. I felt like the direction then seems like that was just, oh, it was just so good. So perfect. Bigelow is great at that stuff. But also, okay. So you bring up an interesting trope that if you say to me, hey, what's another good example of somebody walking into a room, the person that isn't supposed to be there is there. Now, now other people are in danger. You have to pretend like everything's fine. That exists in a hundred billion movies. And I can't think of another one right now. I can't think of one. Okay, Spider-Man Homecoming. Wait, hold on. Oh, that's good. Oh, right. Less, less of a less dangerous, but yeah. Let's see. Ah, I can't, I can't. I honestly can't. Did you, did you ever see Disturbia? No. Oh, okay. Oh, all right. Yeah, this is not, this is not that easy. Like it feels like it's in a lot more than it actually. Like I was thinking of the scene that I brought up the other day of Darth Vader in the dining room. But it's not the same, right? It's a different thing. So, it's ready to write it. So like, hey, Kobo over is here. He needs some food. I want to blend it. I want to blend it with a similar trope. And the similar trope is the killer is, um, ingratiated to everybody. Like Cape Fear. Yeah, Cape Fear. That kind of thing. Yeah. Where, where everybody is like, or, or insomnia even, where the, the villain Robin Williams is like getting all into their business because he seems untouchable. Yeah, that's another version of it. Yeah. I just know there's something, there's something big we're missing though. What is a big film? It feels, it feels familiar because it is life. I mean, that uncomfortable situation that creates great tension while your parents or the other person is ignorant and you're trying to, uh, navigate it. It's a little like, it's a little like going out to dinner with somebody. And then your ex-girlfriend shows up and everyone pretends like you weren't, you didn't have to make it emotional. It's got, how about cable guy? Does cable guy fit for you? Yeah. You know what? That's a good example. Meet the parents, accept the parents of the, well, but the problem with that is it isn't, the meet the parents is just awkward and weird. It's not like there's a secret. You need a stealth character who some people don't know what they're up to. And the other people, and there's one person that does. Oh my god, it's dangerous. There's probably, like, and there's a version of this, and again, I'm trying to remember one myself, but like a version of this where maybe it's, you know, the mom that you're looking after because she's blind and you come home and, and she's, and the villain is in there with her. And she's like, oh, one of your friends came by and decided to help you out. Oh, in this case, she's a dumb ass. Can't read the room. That's a room mom. Good call though. That's, that's kind of, it's a version of this that it's like another one that I can think of, but I can't think of a move, the movie where, where I'm visualizing it. It's going, it honestly is going to drive me nuts until we figure this out because there is, I feel like in my head, there is a singular film that expresses this more than any other, and I cannot put my damn thumb on it. So I'm going to stop thinking about it now and maybe it'll come to me. Come on it. Weird. Here's another weird thing. Lately, the, these names have come up in my life a lot lately with shows, particularly on TMS with Dibbit, other stuff, Mike Star, Tom Sizemore, Richard Jenkins and Kevin Dunne for some reason, all of those guys keep popping up lately in conversations. Somehow they all appeared in the same damn film. I don't get it. Richard Jenkins shows up everywhere. You're just, you can be sitting anywhere and disrespect Richard, Richard Jenkins's a show. I love him. He came up recently, I think he was talking about six feet under and that you hadn't seen that. He's the, he's the dad that you only see as a ghost. It's almost, it's similar to Dexter and the fact that he's a, he's a character who's passed away, but he's imparting his wisdom on the characters from the grave. Yeah. Also, we've seen Kevin Dunne recently. Transformer. Transformer. He's the dad. Oh, sure. That's right. Sure. So I think we're very mad about his yard. Yeah. I think we talked about him. We haven't quite seen Richard Jenkins as recently. He was in Cabin in the Woods, which was like two years ago for us and we saw Mike Star in Cat's Eye, but that was some time ago. The reason, the reason yeah, Brian and I were talking about how we mix him up with any yellow all the time. So that was coming up a lot. So there's that whole thing. And then time size more I've been talking about a lot just because the dude, you know, died some I recently, yeah, very small. But I liked him at this stage. I know he was a drug addicted psycho at this point, but I really like early size more. How does wardrobe make a shirt look that dirty? That, that looked beyond, it was hitting above us weight class of dirty. I was like, we've seen, we saw a bunch of consecutive Tom Sizemore movies now. We've we've sacked, like I'm just trying to get them in order. We sacked lock up and we sacked blue steel now and we sacked flight of the intruder. Yeah. And we sacked, there's another passenger 57 was the next movie for him. Like this whole string of Tom Sizemore movies. Yeah. I guess he just would take any role. I mean, it felt like it. He was at a moment. He was having a moment here. It's an early one, but he's about to, yeah, he's about to kick it off. And a bunch of stuffs come in his way, including, you know, saving Private Ryan, and probably the next big thing in '98 was it, '97. That'd be the big deal for him. But then, then a string of amazing shit and then his life falls apart, and then he gets nothing but garbage rolls and then died last year. So there you go. Yeah, and garbage rolls from, from the same people over and over. Like he was in Strange Days, which Katherine Bigelow also made. Yeah. He was in Point Break. Did we watch that one year? Did we watch Strange Days? Yes, we have sacked Strange Days. Okay, yes, we did. Yeah, love that film. What about, he's not in the top build, Jess, but Matt Craven. I feel, I know we've seen a ton of stuff with him. He's the guy at the party who. There's only one other movie that Matt Craven has been in that we have sacked. And I just, I dare you to get to figure out what it is. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I went, I went deep. I can't think of what I saw him. I'm like, who is that? Hold on, who's Matt Craven? Who's Matt Craven had? He's the guy who, who Elizabeth Pena tries to set Jamie Lee Kurt itself. He's the one with the broken ally. Yeah, and she messes with him, and it's amazing. He's the one who looks like Jeremy Allen White in 29th. Right, my favorite scene in the movie is that Cookout. I just, everything about it, I feel like Katherine Bigelow had a perfect idea for a Cookout scene. Who's the guy who played, who played fake Kramer on Seinfeld and was also. Yeah, that guy, he's everything. He looks like his little brother, like a little tiny guy. I can see that. So we haven't seen Crimson Tide, right? No, not yet. Want to. Jacob's ladder. Not, still haven't, but want to. If you get med, want to. X-Men first class, want to. He's in all sorts of shit. My gosh, if all of these feel like movies we've watched for a second, I know we haven't. White House down, there it is. Oh, we didn't do that one. We did Olympus has fallen. Not that one. We did Olympus has fallen. We didn't do the other one that came out that time. Disturbia. We talked about Disturbia. We haven't watched that. Do you actually ask if we'd seen it? We haven't. Yeah, it's all time precinct 13. Very good, maybe. We haven't done that. Time line. There it is. Oh, time, guys. Time line's a old. Oh, shoot, that's an old. Good. Very, very well. Good. Good. Pulling that forever. That's funny. He isn't one of those guys. He's a fine actor. He's going to be wrong here. But he really is. It's all going on that weird look. That's a job. It's like, look like an uptight guy in a suit. Working for the government. Who are you going to call? Matt Craven. That's it. He's handsome from the side or a 3/4 view. But, man, you looked at him straight on, and he's horseshack, basically. He's totally horseshack. Oh, my gosh. Now I'm going to put that to rest because it was bugging me. I was like, why does he look so familiar? He really looks like horseshack, jeez. All right. Yeah. So Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh, somehow all of her stone had a hand in this? I guess production, right? Really? Yeah. He showed up too in a little cameo, I think. Didn't he? Oh, I don't know. Did he? What did he do? I think he showed up as a cameo. I didn't see that part. So you see in the background of the police precinct or something? No, that was Sam Coppola. Oh, maybe they would. Okay. Well, anyway, here's a bit of trivia about that. So he's a producer, but that's all. He just was in executive position. He didn't, you know, he helped fund it. Or however you do it when you're a producer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You believe in Bigelow or whatever. Sure. But in Germany, because Germany was worried about ticket sales. David Hasselhoff did it. Right. Every, all the posters and everything in the film, including altered credits, say a film from Oliver Stone on it. Oh, okay. Which is kind of annoying. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't like insulting as hell. I agree. Yeah. I agree. Like he's a, you know, whatever. This is a time when he's a fine director. But, you know, who else is? Catherine Bigelow. She's a good director. Yeah. I am not going to stay out. Moving directed by a woman. Forget it. This is bullshit. Directed by woman, that's started woman. Bullsh, bullshizer. They would say. This is like the executive producer on this is Lawrence Cassinoff. And we're talking about like a rich body of work. Like, you know, we sacked dream a little dream and strange days and true lies and so on. Like, I don't know, Oliver Stone just isn't at this point. Isn't what you. No, it's not even near what he was going to become. I mean, what was his big whoop? I guess the platoon, right? And that's still a couple of years later. Or no, platoon was earlier than this. Platoon. Platoon was earlier. Oh, yeah, and so is Wolf. There's so is Wall Street or whatever the hell that was called with Michael Douglas. So yeah, maybe he's fine. He's doing fine. It's just that if you have a lady make a movie, you put her name on it. You don't put all of her effing stones name on there. This is her vision. I mean, from top to bottom, from writing, directing, you know, you could see it. I mean, if you've seen any other Catherine Bigelow movies, you recognize her hand all over. Yeah, the tone is hers. Absolutely. Yeah. And I like it. I like the tone. I think the tone is good. My favorite piece of trivia in this thing, by the way, is that Wilhelm von Humberg was considered to play Eugene Hunt. So that Ron Silver character. But could not be reached after Ghostbusters II, in which he played Vigo the carpet. I'm glad because Ron Silver brings this weirdness. No, wait, wait. Wait, what does you see? As soon as you see a guy who played Vigo on screen, you'll be like, "Oh, yeah, we're totally going to believe that he's a good guy." And, you know, totally romantic involvement with Jamie Lee Curtis. I'm still trying to get over the idea that they couldn't find him. That he couldn't find him. Yeah. Like he just disappeared. That was it. He's like, you know what I'm out. Mandatory break. Oh, I could see why they'd want this face. But, yeah, this isn't right. Yeah. So when you... I actually wrote down. So Ron Silver plays the Jack Nicholson role in this movie. Okay. And he has to go insane. And you have to see that transformation. And so at the beginning, when you first see him, you don't want to be thinking supervillain. You want to be thinking regular Joe. And Ron Silver does it great. I can't... I think he does too. I couldn't imagine someone doing it much better than this. He's the right age. He's got great hair. Here's the problem, though. I came in with too much Ron Silver baggage, I think. Where other movies, he's this Nebish. He's a villain often, but he's just kind of... Nighting is too faced. Yeah. His Clark Kent is a lot better than his Superman. Because as a commodities broker and, you know, just Uppity City Guy, I'm like, yeah. Ron Silver all the way. Yeah, I could buy that. There's just something about his delivery. No, I'm going to agree with Randy, though, on... When he is in his psycho moments, it's very good. Yeah. Like, really killed it, I thought. Oh, very believable. When he's crying? Oh, my gosh. I mean, a crying villain, you're like, oh, shit. He's broken. Yeah, but that... But that nautilus machine scene... Yeah. You could have maybe been a couple minutes shorter. Edit it down just a little bit more. Yeah. And still have been... And still have been suspenseful. What'd you want more? Jamie Lee Curtis and Clancy Brown doing it? Yes. Well, all right. I mean, we're already so close to some things that... There were some choices made in the edit of this film that made me scratching my head. Like, I guess they really wanted to keep it to 90 minutes? Yes, well, they did. They did hour 45. And I think where this movie fails the most is in the editing, because I'm pretty sure that a lot of those slow-motion scenes were not shot to be slow-motion scenes, and they created some confusion, because there was times when she was having dreams. And whenever she would dream, it would be in slow motion when she was awake. It would not. And so the whole ending of the film, where they start getting slow and scattered, and things jumping around, it gets really confusing. I'm like, wait, has she lost her mind? And now she thinks she's seeing Eugene Hunt everywhere? And I'm like, it felt weird. I mean, all the way from him pushing the wiener cart over. I'm like, are you trying to say something here? What the hell is going on? I think they may have been trying to have you feel that way at the end where you're sort of wondering which-- what am I seeing? Like, this is so crazy. It can't even be real. Well, it isn't slow-motion. Like, I think she's playing with you there, and I think that's on purpose, but I'm not sure it was executed all that well. I think the editing failed, because originally, according to trivia, Jamie Lee Curtis was-- the end scene was going to be her being naked. So I'm like, OK, so that rape scene, which was pretty intense, I guess was going to be moved to the end, and maybe was going to end there, which would have been about an hour and a half mark, and maybe they'd be out in the street. So I don't know, but that got mixed, because Jamie Lee Curtis didn't want to do that. She did not want to do it. Not only that, but it-- Bigelow's movies have this a lot in them. I don't know if you guys remember, but Strange Days had one of the most uncomfortable assault scenes I've ever seen in my life. Intentionally, right. She's very good at having that stick with you and go, uh, that was gross. Yeah. So this movie had a bunch of that. Where I struggle, again, it's baggage I bring, and it's about future stuff that has no bearing in 1990. But it's like, all I'm thinking about is, I'm having inappropriate sex with the lady. She's my-- She's supposed to be my underling police officer instead. I'm going to-- You know, he sounds like-- To me, it's Mr. Krabs taking advantage, and I don't know, it's just something about all that that I brought with me. It's not the movie's fault. Sure, sure. I bring with me into this movie, having the history for me, of having watched the movie Heat like 10 times. And Heat comes later, and I have to keep telling myself, Michael Mann watched Blue Steel before he made Heat. Like, I have to keep reminding myself, because he makes some decisions in how that movie plays out that specifically are just better, in my opinion. Like, they're just like, he's like-- The sex scenes are really understated and really quick, and like, with it, because like, that doesn't build character, and so on. And like, I just have to keep telling myself, no, no, no, that's later. That's the-- People have made better movies since this, because they saw this. Yeah, I think so. The movie is-- This movie succeeds in its ability to evoke motion as long as you can get rid of what about the plot points. And you don't think about him getting shot a bunch of times, because she's a really good shot. Every other place, she's really good, but not against Ron Silver. He's got the magic. He's got the shining or something. What do you call her? Because they were evoking some Stephen King shit there, I think. It's like, oh, she's got the shinning. But he's got the shinning too. They're the two sides of the same coin. And but really the emotional ride, being shocked when there's a quiet moment of them coming down the stairs, her and her best friend, Tracy. And then him just out of nowhere behind this stairs is coming out, grabbing her and just it's horrific, emotionally. It could be. It's really what's really well. You know, it isn't just a situation. You could easily say, oh, well, she's like a stormtrooper. Like, whenever it matters, she can't hit the side of a barn. But it's easily there could have been some like initially some mixed feelings when she's shooting, because she for a while cared about him. And and they had that very silent, quiet ride in a helicopter together. But the but, you know, just basically like, her aim is just a little off when it comes to shooting run silver at first. And you could easily see that as being like a a plot point rather than a convenient way to extend the suspense. Other thing to keep in mind here is in terms of overall theme and feeling of it all. According to co-screenwriter Eric Reed, this movie is just a female version of the hitcher. He also wrote that movie. Yeah, Eric Red, not Reed. Eric Red is his name. Anyway, he read he read he read he directed that movie. And if you think about it, a lot of similar stuff. And also a moment of awkward. I'm being busted up. Yeah, there's another there's an example of awkward moment of he's here. And other people don't know what he is yet. But I do. And they're in the diner together, right? And the hitcher and they're they're basically fighting under the table. There's a gun or a fork in the leg or something. Yeah, that's another version of that, I think. And this guy writing this makes a lot of sense, I suppose. But but yeah, you and yeah, go ahead. As you say, before we get too far away from the sex scene with Clancy Brown and Jamie Lee Curtis, is part of that the noisy kissing or the sweaty? Oh, what gross got out the most? Gross. You are ding, ding, ding, ding. Already got it. No need to discuss it further. You got it nailed it. I'm going to go ahead and share it with you. I have audio. I saved it for just over here. Oh, good. Here's some ASMR for you to make you have nightmares. Where is it? Oh, did I crap? We're going to have to get to it, I guess, because I don't remember what I call that. Can I move this to my personal drive? No, I move it to my freaking on fire drive. It's freaking disgusting. It is so disgusting the kissing in this. I can't find it. It is so loud. It's like somebody-- Oh, I found it. I found it. You pancakes. I'm such an idiot. I put it up top so I would remember to play it first, and I completely forgot I did it. Anyway, this is what you got. I just can't do it there. I will never understand how Scott Johnson ever made children. I thought it was too realistic. I'm not having kids watching two other people make disgusting noises. When I made kids, it was me and my wife. It's not the same. This is the problem, is I'm a viewer of the thing, and it's freaking Mr. Krabs, and the lady from everywhere, everything all at once, or whatever, eating what it sounds like a banana. It's freaking terrible. Sorry, Randy, I'm getting ready. What do you got, Jimmy Lee Curtis's sweaty stomach? I just want to stand down. I thought the scene that bugged you the most was the one where Ron Silver first makes out with her, because you see his tongue so much. And if I had been Ron Silver, I would have been like, "Hey, can we use some shots where it doesn't look like I'm trying to taste her so much?" If I had the wherewithal when we were watching, because I rewound it to make sure Tina saw it, when their first time they kiss, he starts on her forehead, and then makes his way down her face to her mouth. But he opens his mouth on her nose, and sticks his stomach, and licks her nose on the way down to her mouth. If I had the wherewithal on our big TV to be able to capture it, I wouldn't have to care about going back and doing it. I mean, maybe she has a really clean forehead. No, I don't. I mean, look, she's a beautiful woman. 2024 at all. I'd kiss her forehead in 2024. She is not the issue. It's Ron Silver, and his nasty yellow coffee stained teeth with that tongue. And then Clancy Brown later going, "Oh, I had big noise when I had the naughties." And I kept thinking, I thought to myself, I wonder if this is bugging Ibit for the sounds. Totally. Yeah, because you don't like that. What does it mean? I do not, the misophonia. Misophonia, yeah. Misophonia, nice. At one point, I found myself in a corner of TikTok where people were making videos talking about how there's no such thing as a good sex scene in a movie. Like it's not like that you cannot do that. That movie has a certain purpose, and whatever that purposes, a sex scene always detracts from it. And then at some point, the discussion changed over to the problem is the sound. The sight. It makes sense. I don't, once again, I think it comes down to the editing in post. It feels like to me, this fell apart a little bit in post. I mean, I can be totally wrong. I don't know how much Katherine Bigelow did with the post stuff. But yeah, we have very intimate shots visually. And if you're a sound person, maybe you're thinking, "Well, I guess we need to get in close." I guess so. Look at this business. We got in there pretty close. Yeah, we can't hear, we can't hear the kirgan. Can we get a little closer to the kirgan while he licks our freakin' axe, sweat-covered belly? Our cinematographer here is Amir Makhry. Amir Makhry. Amir Makhry. How dare you? No, he is here. Makhry Makhry. Is that really Amir Makhry? Amir Makhry. Amir Makhry. He's a Iranian originally. Has a long, established career. Really, you know, I've been the cinematographer for a lot of movies that have a lot of photographic, you know, like, high points. He was the cinematographer for Lord of War, for instance. And Lord of War is a very visual movie. Yeah, it's good. I feel like in this movie, he is really hitting his highest points when we're outside, when we're out in the street in the city. And a lot of these like smaller scenes, where you just have a couple of people talking, or in the case of all the police yelling, it's like, I don't know, it doesn't stick for me. I don't feel like all the scenes in the parents' house were really great. They were just, they're kind of in a parent's house. They're kind of claustrophobic in those scenes, which is good, intentionally. Is it, though? I mean, I don't know. Very intimate. I didn't, I didn't pick up on that. I didn't feel like they were particularly claustrophobic or particularly still or anything in particular. I just like, this is a cinematographer who really knows how to shoot a city. He's like, I've got it, man. That is really entertaining stuff when they're out in the street. Yeah. I kind of want to see, sorry, it's just reminded me of this because I was looking at her list here, but Jamie the Curtis is in that new, the last showgirl, it looks like a kind of a smaller movie, but it's about a showgirl in Vegas who spent her whole life being a showgirl and is now aging out of it and what that's like. It reminds me of the wrestler a little bit, tonally when I see the trailer. You guys should check that out. Oh, this is the Pamela Anderson movie. Yeah, the Pamela Anderson movie that some people are, it's one of the cople is directing it. I don't know which one, it's not Sophia. It's Geocopela. Right, and it's, reviews are a little mixed, but I don't know, I'm curious about it. And if she's in, Jamie the Curtis is like another, somebody who aged out of it or something in it and she's always great. Like she's just great, dude. Can we all just agree for, you know, Jamie the Curtis? What a treasure. She's amazing and she still plays World of Warcraft. How many commercials for the yogurt that makes you poop are still in my favorite stuff? What about her, Tana's portrayal in Borderlands? How you feeling about that? I haven't seen it yet. We're watching it here, aren't we? She was definitely not one of the problems with Borderlands. Are we going to do that here? I know I've done a little bit of it, saw it. I'd love to. Can we see it here? I'll see it again for a film cycle, make that sacrifice. All right. I mean, it's not like, it's fine. No, it's not the worst thing. It's certainly not the worst thing. No, and I'll watch it again with you. This has been quite a year for people seeing new movies and then going online and telling you, oh, it's the worst movie of the year. This year has really been riddled with that stuff, with like Madam Webb and Megalopolis and currently it's Red One. I like what you call it, Madam Webb. Like you inject a little bit of, yeah, I'm trying to help you here. This is on the damn, Madam Webb. Like what are you? It's just that this year, there's something happening. Like people are not buying it if your movie is mediocre. There's like worst movie of the year. Yeah, I don't know what that, well, I do know what that is. It's the internet. Why am I asking? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is this engagement? It's like, if you should own something, it's like you get way more conversation than if you go, that was good. But that's been going on for a decade or more. And there's something ramped up over these last year. Yeah, I feel like it has to, or the algorithms have ramped up shoving into my face, which is probably true. Because I do notice that when I'm spending a lot more time on blue sky and threads now. And when I start, even if I post like the word movie, for the next three days, I get bombarded with movie shit. And some of that is reviews or people go, We heard you like movies. Yeah, it's like they feel like a little too on the nose right now. And I don't know why that is, what's going on with that. But I got off threads when some of the older people I know were constantly responding to engagement questions. And I was just like, I can't deal with this. I have a friend. He's quite a bit older than me. He's just replying to every engagement question on threads. And I'm like, you're ruining threads for me. I don't want to like unfriend him. But I just don't, I don't want to know this about him. Let me give you a funny response to that. So I just opened threads to see what the first three things were. I don't want to freak out or anything. But the very first one is name a band or an artist with no bad albums. The next one is, what's the most overrated movie you've ever seen. Next one is, I'm over at blue sky. I don't think we're is is mad about that engagement stuff. As we are mad about just getting rewarded. I think I don't know. Of course it is. That's exactly it. It's annoying as shit. If it didn't work, people wouldn't do it. But that's the problem. And over there, they reward it more than any other site. Here's another one. Who is a successful singer? But also not a very good singer. It's like, what are you, what are you trying to do? What's the addiction hardest to quit? Can I, can I, okay, this, I don't want to get too far off topic here. Oh, geez. But I don't want, I have felt a little bit like I felt a little stifled with my casual conversation on social media lately because I'm so afraid. I'm going to say something. This is the casual thing. It's like, yeah, I like popcorn. Oh, what the hell is that supposed to be? What are you looking for? What are you looking for on social media? If it's not, if it's not casual, small talk. What are you looking for? I mean, just to say. Well, it's just in this particular case, threads itself, the threads algorithm is way over indexing on things with a question mark, like way, way, way over. And it's just this one weird thing. And as soon as people realize what it's doing, they're like, I would like to get a lot more followers and a lot of views. Does everybody hate this guy for that one weird thing? That's just, it's just one of those things. But like, like Scott, you were just reading some, some of those engagement farming questions. They're very compelling. Like the ones you said, I'm like, oh, I want to answer. Well, they're not going to answer it. They work here. YouTube evens don't doing a YouTube's official account. Just said, what's something that instantly reminds you of your childhood? It's like, all right. Well, if I'm talking to you guys, these are fun questions. If I'm talking to the internet, I don't know who any of these people are. I'm off. What's I'm asking me stuff? Why is this a great inquisition right now? I'm just trying to see threads. Yeah. And I got a couple of friends are starting to do it because they know it works and it just puts me off. I don't know. So I'm less of a public hose guy now anyway. So it's really not bothering me. It's still a good place to post and interact and stuff. I think the blue skies went up. I think right now we're going through a very interesting phase of social media. And once again, not to get too far off track, I don't think none of us understand why we even want to be on social media. Is there any value to it? And we're all just kind of going, the fuck am I even doing? Because my language, but you know, what am I even doing? We got enough bomb. I like it. This is good. We don't get those very often. Hey, you think Ron Silver, you think Ron Silver would be on social media if he'd lived bringing it back? He's probably, yeah. Well, it's still a related question. Right. 2090 died. That was, we're barely getting in there, right? Wow, you're kidding, yeah. So do you think Ron Silver today would be one of those guys where, you know, like Stephen King, where they just follow him wherever he goes? You think his, you think his, he would, he would portray his Eugene Hunt character and kind of go like, are you guys also hearing voices? Yeah. Or just a bubble. But I know that if he followed himself, he'd turn into a little pile of puddle of a goo. I was just going to say his avatar just be a bubble, like a CGI bubble goo. Just, just etched, just etched my secret crush's name on a bullet casing, what you guys doing today. I mean, what's for lunch? To me, he's like a more serious grounded Ellis from Die Hard, everything he's in. That's what it reminds me of. This is just Ellis. And I don't know if that's me, I don't know if that's profiling or what that is. Well, no, there's something about the perfectly manicured beard that makes you say, all right, this guy spends way too much time, like really trying to have a look. Right. Whether it's a chair or. How about this? Look at this. This is him before the beard took over. I'd have ever seen this of him before. Oh, really? No, that's a guy. Here you go. That's a guy you can sit and talk to in the steps, right? Oh, yeah. He looks pretty much like that. If he turns around while he's driving the cab, yeah. He looks like Billy Crystal a little bit. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. He does a little, he does pretty good. He looks kind of disinterested as well. Yeah. He looks, yeah, disinterested or just exhausted. Like glasses off hanging in his hand. It's weird because you just see him in a beard and suddenly he's not in a beard. It's weird. Yeah, so he's a lot more. Seems a lot more clean up, but it's his hair, too. His hair is like kind of selling pizzas in Manhattan. Yeah, good call. Oh, I forgot. Is that how? He was in that Ollie movie. Sorry, go ahead, don't we? Oh, oh, I was going to say just thinking about him and his roles here, because one role just dies off pretty quick. He never really really addressed the job in the bucket, which is what happened to his day job of yelling about gold futures. You know what? I think that's a bucket. That's a bucket thing. Grab a bucket. Even though we don't have a character, I think that the Wall Street aspect of his life? 100%. That's weird. Yeah, I would like to open up the Siskel and Ebert debate here, because I have a pretty strong opinion on one side of the bait, and I'm curious if anybody goes the other way. I felt like this movie perfectly depicted a man going crazy, and it starts with him in his job is a place that would drive you crazy. So it depicts him in his job being bombarded by sound and people and all this stuff. And then when you see him, you're going to go back and you see him looking at the gun like you can kind of get. Oh, this is the beginning of him going crazy. And the movie tells the whole story of him going crazy. And so I felt like that was perfect. I really like that is exactly right. But Gene Siskel felt like it wasn't explained at all. Yeah, it's a skinny one. He felt like it wasn't explained at all, like at all. And I'm just curious, was anybody else like this movie didn't do a good job here? I am I am team Roger Ebert. That's the bigger one at the movies. I did watch what they had to say. Wait a minute, you're saying Roger Ebert's the bigger one? How did you mean that when you just said that? This is what you said. You said, you know what? I wanted to just say I agree with Roger Ebert. He's the bigger one. It comes right after he said that Gene Siskel is the skinny one. No, that's true. But I love it. I love that you meant. I think what you meant was he had the more popular opinion or something. With longevity, like we still have a Roger Ebert.com website. Right, right. No one's going to Gene Siskel.com. I agree with old purple lips that I felt it was more of an emotional ride. And I thought it was explained fine. I didn't need to know anymore. I didn't need to know some kind. I didn't feel like a bigger explanation. Other than he's hearing voices, you know, he's he mentioned several times in the movie that he prefers it quiet. Yet his job is very loud. And now he's hearing voices in his head. So yeah, and he had a near death experience. And so I think plenty is explained. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I just think that my only I only have one big plot beef. And my biggest plot beef is the dad thing just got dropped. Just got dropped. It's like, hey, remember the dad? Remember how abusive he is? Remember how she took him to jail herself? Suddenly he's home again. He took a turn very quickly. Easily. Yeah, I didn't like that. Kind of I kind of want to ask like the writer and director of this movie. Like ever ever have to take your dad on a ride in handcuffs to a scary feeling? No, that feels real personal. Yeah, yeah, it does. I mean, I can't imagine a more personal thing, right? You're you're an only kid. She had no siblings. She grows up in this household. He's abusive to the mom. One would assume that he was at least verbally abusive to her perhaps and earlier. I don't know. But then she becomes a cop partly because she wants to fight against this kind of abuse. And then one day he just goes too far. She's got too many bruises. Handcuff your own dad. Take him in a car. It's kind of badass, but there's no payoff for that. Right, because like the real twist here is that right before she goes and confronts her dad, she just watched her best friend get killed right in front of her. Like that is huge. And I was actually thinking, oh no, our main character is about to start going crazy too. Yeah, I really thought that was a possibility here that yeah. So expectation that she was going to finally have enough. She's going to lose it that we were going to cut away, right? We were going to cut to the person that she shot ends up just being a hot dog seller, right? I was like, oh shit, she's lost her mind. Yeah, right, right. Like this trail of memories, like the angel heart where you kind of all see like all the things that she did that we saw from the perspective of going after Ron Silver, but we're all these innocent victims and interesting. But overall, I had really good time with this. Yeah, I was a little bit, you forget that there were movies in 1990 that could shock you and make you feel uncomfortable like this one did. And there were times where I showed its age, but there were times where it was just like, yeah, freaking. And that's a big aloe thing. She's good at it, right? She's considered a great director for lots of reasons, Zero Dark Thirty and the bomb strapped to Hawkeye movie. I never remember the name of that. What does that call again? Hurt locker. Hurt locker. Thank you. Those are considered modern, you know, incredible movies for a reason. She's really good. And this is some of that. You just get a taste of it. It's not the same. It's not the same quality. You know, she gets better over time, but I really like her vibe. I want to make a confession. Do it. And I wrote this down because it actually happened. And I'm a little bit embarrassed, but this is just a fact. This movie has some loud parts and some very quiet parts, right? Loud like when Kevin Dunn and Clancy Brown are just yelling at her for no reason. You know, like it's such a trope, such a trope that we go to a police station and the cops in charge are yelling at the rookie. I don't know. They're just like, that was unnecessarily loud. But then there were all these quiet parts where she's just moving around the city or we see Ron Silver going crazy. It's very quiet. And I'm just admitting that I kind of fell asleep. It wasn't like completely asleep. I'm saying like there were moments when this movie made me close my eyes and listen. And there was nothing to hear. So I kind of like drifted a little bit. And that's not I don't think that's a good sign for a thriller. I think it was other thrillers. I kind of did that, you know? Interesting, yeah. Interesting. Now I actually liked it when it got quiet because what was going on visually was so much better than what was going on with the audio. So I just couldn't stop watching that. That's the real reason why I like this movie is because the way it looks. I mean, the story is not that great. There's some emotional moments, but you know, that's fine. But just watching, I could turn the audio off and just stare at this film is so beautiful. Can you unpack a little bit more on the stories, not that great? I'm curious about what was missing for you or just a little rope. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of thinly, you know, it's like it doesn't really go anywhere. A lot of the threads just kind of just end like the dad. I mean, Ron's over going crazy. The final, the final fight, the fight and everything hurt. Clancy Brown, why does she stand there and stare at him long and leave for? You know what it is. Okay, I thought of a movie. I just thought of one. You know, we're talking earlier, we couldn't think of one. Single white females, one of these movies. Single white female on the other one just slipped my head. But these kinds of movies, it's the same basic plot. Hitcher is very similar. You take those basic ingredients and you throw it up there and it's fine. But we've all seen variations of this. And the reason we see a lot of variations of it is because it works, like Dunaway says, I agree. So I think that's what's going on here. I agree that it's thin, but I think this is just as good as any of the other portrayals of this. They did a fine job. In fact, if anything, it's slightly better because it wasn't as agonizing. The middle part, there's some agony with the parents and a him being in there and them not knowing he's a killer and all that. There's agony, but it's not drawn out to the point where she thinks she's losing her mind or they're kicking her off the force because he is so fooled them or something. You know, they didn't take it so far that that's where I get frustrated and I don't want to be there anymore. This was enough of a balance for me. And it wasn't half the movie wondering if Mr. Krabs still trusts her or not, you know, like he trusts her. Trust her enough to have sweaty sex in the middle of the damn movie. So I just realized as you were talking that this movie makes me want to watch striking distance, the Bruce Willis cop investigating movie. Yeah, that's good. It's only a couple of years after. Believe me, it's been on our film sec watching this before ever. Like I really like, I'm going to have to hold myself off because I don't want to watch. Last Boy Scout, is it? When was it? Another Tom Sizemore movie, sweet. But like these movies, I keep going back to Christopher Nolan's Insomnia because it's so great. These movies where you have a cop and the cop has problems and the villain is so villainous and so personal and in their face, like it's a recipe for success. I'm just saying like this movie was at times, it wasn't playing the recipe. It got kind of lost up its own butt. And it's like, look at this beautiful city street that she's walking down. You're like, yeah, okay, you're not progressing anything. Could anybody explain the Clancy Brown backwards penis story? I mean, I was like, am I supposed to be laughing at this? Or am I supposed to be shocked? Is this setting something up? It's supposed to say that these guys, it's a boys club- Unaware boys club, okay. Yeah. A little long for a boys club setup, but yeah, okay. Also, also seems really finnically impossible to soak people up backwards. Right. It was absolutely the moment at which I stopped watching it with my wife and child. Hey, you guys can go ahead on the bed now. Oh, geez. Just remind myself, yeah. The movie's pretty dark, by the way, the opening scene is taken. Well, it's basically the opening of Monsters Inc. Where you think it's a real scenario and she's going to take down this guy who's got this girl and she's just not a set or whatever they did. So that whole opening sequence, which was a total McGuffin, is basically the start of monsters. Yeah. And they kept coming back to a wife and husband as their build and is so weird because they're like constantly, they'll show up occasionally or just standing there really close and kissing each other and I'm like, "What the hell is going on with these characters?" Are they trying to seduce Jamie Lee Curtis or something? It's very weird. It is a little bit weird here. That bit where Clancy Brown delivers the joke about the guy with his penis sound. That's where I felt the most that this part of the movie was written by Eric Red and not half of Bigelow. Anybody want to guess what other film sack movie we've sacked that was written by Eric Red? Well, we did. We already talked about one. It's the hitcher. It got my turn earlier. Oh, did we mention that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It felt so like there are moments in this movie in that the penis joke was the one, like the moment the most where I'm like, "Oh, this is the dude that's involved in this screenplay." Right. It's not. This is like Catherine Bigelow didn't invent this story. So I looked up the script because I was curious because it felt like they didn't stick with the script. And the original script that I read seemed like it was maybe punched up by Eric Red, but all the big beats were hers. But then maybe he wrote some character stuff possibly and guided a little bit. Yeah. I mean, it's your names in it, but we don't know to what level. Like, I always think every director should get co-writing because stuff happens in real time while they're directing, they make decisions that are kind of improv and go, "What if we tried the scene this way and then it sticks?" Like, why, I feel like director says a good director talks to the actors and gets their input and allows the person who is the most intimate with that particular portrayal of the character to have some input into what the character might say. I mean, sometimes, right? But like, Cohen Brothers are famous for telling actors to stop changing words or they're going to get fired. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they're right, though, you know? Yeah. I'm not saying they're wrong. I don't know. Right. I think it's a discussion you should have with your actors, but it's not necessarily something that you should bend your vision on. I just don't think there's a standard. I mean, other than lawful standards of you can't just berate somebody or you can't abuse somebody or whatever. But I mean, there are no standards. Every director is different. They're all going to some are going to encourage improv. Others aren't like that thing. The fact that we're having the discussion says something in favor of the movie. This is a movie that Kathryn Bigelow was trying to make as a good movie. Yeah. And it is a good movie. There's some success there. Like, we're not talking about this. Like, they accidentally entertained me or my gosh, my gosh, these filmmakers have no idea what they're doing. The attempt was to make a good movie, and it's actually pretty good at times. Yeah, I think so. I think I do not regret watching this. I think it was good. And I'll be honest when you guys said we were going to watch it. I just kept thinking blue thunder. I don't think I'd even heard of this before. Somehow this one missed my radar. I just never heard of it. So, and so as I was discovering this, like, oh, Kathryn Bigelow directed this ditch. Ew, point break, paper day by day. Like, I didn't know. I had no idea. So this, to me, this is one of my favorite kinds of film sack movies because I went in as blind as I could possibly be. I had no conception of anything other than, oh, I like Jamie B. Curtis and I like the director. And that's all I had going in. I came out with some really yellow Ron Silver Teeth. I don't know what he's drinking in his coffee, but whoo, get some white dust, straight coffee, and he's drinking about eight cups a day. Yeah, right. Yeah. And sometimes he just holds it in his mouth for a long period of time. It doesn't swallow it around. Ah, gross. And then she has to kiss that, and his tongue's coming out. Ah, his tongue's coming out. Ah, look out, just coming out. I don't know why that's so gross to me. I don't know why. Anyway, I also liked how Clancy Brand looked about four feet taller than any other actor in the entire film. He's just such a big dude. Love him. How tall do we think he is? Six, two. Six, two. In movie standards, that's very tall. So I'm going to say six, two. Because most people are shorter than that in movies. Yeah, Google has him at six, three. Oh, he's my height. So he's my height, which doesn't seem like a lot because we're normal people, but when you're in a movie, like when you're Jeff Goldblum or him or any of these taller actors, they look ridiculously tall because everyone else is like five, two in films. The one time I met Jamie Lee Curtis in person, I clocked her at about five, six. Yeah, that's shorter than I would expect. I expect her to be tall, don't you? Because she just has that look. How'd you meet her? Can we get to the meat of that? What happened there? We've talked about it. I we we had a big a big reveal for the trailer for Warlords of Draenor. And we did it at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. Right, I remember this. And so we invited every celebrity guest. We have on our list and the very, very few of those showed up, but she and Chris guest, I'm sorry, the fifth Baron Hayden guest. And their son at the time, now their daughter all showed up. And they were there for their kid, who's now Ruby. We just had exchanged a few words. The only other famous person, a relatively famous person that came in was the guy who wrote Ready Player One. He pulls up in a convertible, a red convertible, and he gets out. And it's like, that's not valet parking. He just he just double parked on a curb, where there is no valet parking. And he just gets out of his car, and he comes walking in. And we're like, what's going to happen to the car now? What's his name? Ready Player One guy? Uh, the writer, uh, Bernie Klein. Bernie Klein. Klein? Yeah. I know. Brad? It's Klein, but what's the first name? But Robert? Robert? No, that's the actor. Ernie Klein. Ernie Klein. Ernie. So you're close to that, isn't it? Ernie. Oh, I thought you said Bernie with a B. Sorry. Oh, no, I said Ernie Klein. I missed it. I missed it. I missed it. But, uh, anyway, we just, uh, I was, I was really, really, I was, I was on the, I had the clipboard with the famous people on it. And so I was just checking in, uh, people that were on our special VIP list. We had a separate door for them. And, um, when I saw Chris Guest coming, I just like lost my ability to speak, because he's just, he's very impressive. Yeah, and, uh, and then there's Jamie Lee Curtis. And I was like, oh, she's, she's way more impressive. Christopher, Christopher, Christopher Guest also a pretty tall guy, right? I think if I remember hearing that, right? Isn't he a pretty tall guy? 6162, something like that. Oh, he was, he was my height. Okay. So, like, it's so, how, so that's crazy, because when he stands next to his wife, um, her name just left me the long time married, she's awesome. Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh, Jamie, the Curtis, duh. That's the point. Oh, you know what I'm doing? I'm mixing up Brad Hall and, uh, Julie, we tried this. Oh, Julie Lee Curtis, sure. That's what I'm doing, never mind. In my head, it was like, wait, they were at SNL at the same time? And they were. But it was the wrong, well, Jamie Lee Curtis was, uh, never was. No, not her, but yeah. Christopher Guest and Brad Hall and, and Julie, we drive this. Yeah. And so in my head, I mix up who married who? I have that up. No, that's cool. That's, that's awesome. Her gamer status is one of my favorite little side things about her, because she doesn't really flaunt it. But yeah, she loves it. It's just, it just like what the story I was told on this sidewalk outside this theater for 30 seconds was that she was there for her child. Uh, and I don't even remember what Ruby's name used to be. So that's, that's nice. Yeah. But like, she was, she was, she was trying to get across that she wasn't there, you know, because she was really all that interested in World of Warcraft at that time. Right. And I think Jamie Lee Curtis grew in, you know, in esteem for a while, as the years went on since that. Now, here's the funny thing. The year she went to Blizzcon dressed as an undead, she did it incognito. Nobody knew. Here's a photo of it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I saw her and didn't know it was her. I remember this face, the pink hair thing, the leather strapped undead face. The black, I think I saw her. But I, but no one is a little bit like Adam Savage goes to Dragon Con and nobody knows he's inside the robots. Right. It was like that. And I'm not, what am I going to do if I knew like I'm not going to do anything either way, but I kind of, I'm annoyed that I just thought it was some nerd. But it was really Jamie Lee Curtis. And I could have said, hey, does the Kurgan like your sweaty belly? I could have said. Anyway, I wouldn't have known that then. Hey, I'm Ryan Reynolds. Recently, I asked Mint Mobile's legal team if big wireless companies are allowed to raise prices due to inflation. They said, yes. 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And not titles. What am I trying to say? The freaking clips. Clips, clips. Yeah, I'm losing my mind. We already did the kissy thing. I'm never playing that again. Delete. All right. Here we go. Her dad is a pud monkey. I wanted so badly to be at the ceremony. I shot up Shirley. Cheese. Easy, Chief. Shut up, Shirley. Shut up, Shirley. All right. Here's a funny. Ah, damn shit. Damn shit. There you go. Ah, damn shit. Ah, damn shit. That was the coffee guy at the convenience store. Get to the coffee all over him. You want to hear Ron Silver drag something? Good, because here it is. He's dragging a gun. It's kind of cool. I don't know. I thought it was cool. That's him dragging it towards himself laying down. Very slowly. Also, there's a bit of a plot hole there when they would have done all the witness testimony and questioning of people who worked there, the people who witnessed it. They would have all corroborated her story that he had a gun. For sure. Yeah, to ask only, and Randy touched on this in his intro, but to only ask the cashier if he had a gun or not, and not to ask the old lady, the run silver, or any of the other guys, whether or not he had a gun. I guess Ron Silver said, "No, I never saw a gun." Turn rookie cops. I never saw one. Never saw one. Here's Kevin Dunn being very young in this. "The only bullets fired were yours. You say the suspect had a gun, and no weapon was found at the seat." Another Julia-Louis Dreyfus connection, because he was great on Veep. Fantastic on Veep. Oh, he was great on Veep. That's what I was like. Was he on Seinfeld, but no, it was Veep. One episode of Seinfeld, though, funny enough. Oh, he was on Seinfeld, there we go. Just one episode. He was Jerry's friend that was losing it and yelling at the help at the restaurant. It's a very early season one thing. Oh, right, right, yep. And I only know this because it's on permanently at the house. That's all the time. Here is a, something about a hooker. Here we go. "The hooker pulls out a needle and thread." Yeah, that's all of that story I'm going to show. "The hooker, the hooker." Ron Silver makes a gun town. It's not very intense, kind of lame. Nope, nope. Get some ideas. I love this back and forth here. This is like Intimidation COP 101 here. "I have no idea." "Get an idea." "Get two ideas." "Think, Megan." "Hard." "I love that." "No, that's like a ticket bill." "They're being a cop and they're just laying into it. Just uh." Yeah, yep. But soon they would fall in love. All right, here's the extent at which the kirgan must know her every move. "I mean, she pees, I got to know about it, right?" Gross. But yeah, I guess I need to know when she pees. It's fine. How about this one? "You can put on pantyhose, I want to know about it." Yeah, go ahead and have sex with him. He was sending some signals. He sure was. Pantyhose and pee. Oh man. We heard this earlier about a play it again. "They'll tune a salad, no bread." Gross. "No bread." Gets gross. "Do not eat, they'll tune a salad, even if it's refrigerated. I just recommend against that gelatinous disgusting food." That's gross. And I eat a lot of things I shouldn't eat. Now that is off the menu. This is Ibit after his prom date. This is a little tape we recovered from your childhood home. After a very long night of the dance, maybe you picked the wrong girl, I don't know. But this is what you said. "Stop talking to me!" Man, you were really sicker. Yeah, that date really just didn't end well. It just wouldn't shut up. She wouldn't shut up and the DJ was off. It was nothing but Millie Vanilly songs, and I just wasn't having any of it. Almost done. Millie Vanilly. Oh, we raked them. You know, once you hear a girl, you know it's true. More than once, it's enough. Blame it, did they do Blame Vanilly as well? Of course. Yeah, they did Blame Vanilly. Well, they quoted Blame Vanilly as well. So much of that... Now name two more. I can name two more. Millie Vanilly. I can't. That's my top out. Besides, girl, you know it's true, and Blame it on the rain, like two more. Beyond those, oh geez. I don't know them. I got two more. Okay, let's hear it, magical man. Girl, I'm gonna miss you, and baby, don't forget my number. Oh, get my number. You know, that's a fair amount of hits for a blip-sinking band. Isn't that bad? Yeah, yeah. Remember how bad everyone was? Today would be very different, because half a TikTok is lip-sinking. It would all the time. Yeah, I know, right? Lip-sinking is rewarded now. Like, you get a big following if you're a good lip-sinker. What do you mean those animated characters aren't singing those gorillas songs? What? Oh, I didn't even think of that. We got cartoon stand-ins. Man, the world has changed so much. Thank you, I can probably lip-sinking. We got Blue Man Group has probably starred 300 unique people at this point. Yeah, right. Many Blue Men, but this one is ours. Here's some good gun-fully when I say good, not good. I take it back, it's all right. It's okay. Doesn't hurt the shooting range? Yeah, it's hurt the range. Yeah, super-ecily. Yeah. Which one would be there? I don't know. I assume so. I've done it once. It's very loud in there. Didn't enjoy it. Ricker Jenkins has arrived, and he only has one scene, really. But here it is. Now, I want my client released this minute. And if I see anybody from this department within 15 feet of my client, I'm going to sue the New York City Police Department and the City of New York. I picked the wrong data. Stop it. Why is he so out of the trash? My gosh. Cocaine, it's all cocaine. Worst thing in the movie. Jenkins, run in here and deliver your line real quick. Literally run in here. Can you run up the stairs and then say these words, please? Thanks. I mean, at this point he's a relative unknown. I'd seen him and didn't know it at the time, but I saw him in Silverado. He owns part of the bar that's at the center, most of the story of Silverado. And he's very good, but short. And I don't know when things really hit for him. At some point, we now revere him as one of the great character actors of all time. But I don't know when that was. It wasn't Fish Haven Sex with a Lady movie. What was it that Richard Jenkins was like, boom, his career. He'll forever be Richard Jenkins. Hold on, I'm going to look it up. Richard Jenkins. All right, his big, he claims his known fours are the shape of water, stepbrothers, the visitor, and burn after reading. Probably burn after reading, maybe? No, I mean, it's like. Let's go earlier then. No, I don't know. I'm looking sea of love. Six feet under, maybe? Six feet under is where I first, like, really became aware of him. Okay, that's a good call. Yeah, he was in a bunch of episodes of that show. Yeah, he was the dad that shows up as the ghost. I hear how it could be. Was he six feet under? Yeah, he was six feet under the whole time. I mean, he's getting under. Oh, I forgot we saw him in the core. Remember that? I remember that. Oh, the core. Let's travel to the center of the earth. I mean, I remember watching it. You know what I don't remember, though? Can you watch sea of love with Ellen Barkin and Pacino? I don't think so. That's very much in the format of this movie, right? Like it's a cop thriller, the person that Al Pacino loves, may or may not be the killer. Yeah, it's not in here. I guess we haven't seen it. It's something familiar about that, though. Yeah, I must have seen it. We sacked Manhattan Project. He was in there. Oh, yeah, more often seeing him than I remember. Anyway, I do love him. For the reason I think you're in a comedy more than like a thriller, and I'm looking at his list. Witches of Eastwick? No, I mean, there's something fun with Dick and Jane. No, the core. You know what? I got a story about the core. I'm not married. He was an uncredited cameo in that one, but. This is a very short story about the core, but I'm going to share it. When we watched the core. You say he's on backwards? I don't think we said anything about it at the time when we watched it, or maybe I did. But at the time we had not done anything remotely in 2000s. Like we hadn't watched any movies that were, except maybe retrograde where there's still four, I think. But early in film sack or whenever we got around to watching the core, 2003 seemed like really we're going to do a film sack of a movie that was in the tooth that like that seemed crazy to me. Too soon. And now it means nothing. Like we'll do stuff from last year. We'll do Star Wars when it comes in like, you know what I mean? But at the time, I remember being nervous about that. That's weird. It's a weird thing to be nervous about. Yeah. Well, not nervous anymore. Not now. No. Oh, no. I don't know anything. I've seen enough and expendables to accept the fact that we're going to do 2000s. This is our life. That's what we do now. All right. Here's a shut up dad. Shut up, dad. Oh my good lord. All right, dad. Okay. Make sure you say, oh, yeah. This annoyed me because she said she's got a walkie-talkie. And you know, walkie-talkies work. You have to hold the switch and you say, whatever you're going to say, and then you let go, and then they say, and they say their thing, and then they let go. And sometimes it's over or whatever. She decides to swear and make sure she does the button when she swears. That's a weird thing to do in my opinion. But anyway, here it is. Shit. And that's her closing the thing. Over. Shit. Over. That's a weird thing to do. You have a copy. Shit. Copy. Damn it. Copy. It's just weird idea. Anyway, this sound is in this movie a lot. That weird drum plays a lot. I actually really like the music. Should point that out. I liked it a lot. I, but you know, we'll talk about the music and- Yeah, I guess we're coming up on that. Um, all right. Here's an angry Mr. Krabs. Again! SpongeBob! You can hear him doing it. All right. Ron Silver yelling. All right. And then finally, people after I had a gummy in Vegas. Want to get higher? Yeah, sure. Let's get higher. All right. Time for the checklist. The Film Sack checklist goes like this this week. This movie had a Miami-Fice vibe. Check. No. We can see that. This show- There's all- Mostly dark night time shots, right? Yeah. Which is, I think, what did it? And the music, I don't know. Some of that worked like that. His slow-mo aiming started to ruin the movie for me. Check. I got really tired of him going like- Gunboy over his head and then slowly bring it down to aim. It's like- Just shoot him. Just kill him. Anyway. Finally, I always wanted to see Mr. Krabs bum cheek. Got to see it, while he was laying on the bathroom floor. Star Trek connections. I know of at least two. Randy, tell us, and I'll see if I'm right about it. There were actually a bunch here. I'm going to give you the top three. Okay. Okay. So, first, one of the hardest working actors around was Lauren Tom. That was Lois in Bad Santa, you know? We are men and we are Lois. She gets a credit as a female reporter in this movie. I don't remember it. But she was also in Star Trek Lower Decks because she does a ton. Lauren Tom does so much animated show acting. I'm actually kind of surprised that she hasn't appeared in other animated tricks. Like, because she's in everything. Number two, we'll just hit Clancy Brown, right? You're captain of the guards in Shawshank Redemption, and the former warchief of the horde, Black Hand the Destroyer. I'm trying to not say Mr. Krabs. He was Bergh in the Mandalorian. Anyway. He's also in, oh sorry, go ahead. Clancy Brown is Nick Mann, as you know. He was in one episode of Star Trek Enterprise as a character named Zobraal that was in season one. The episode was called Desert Crossing. Of course, the big connection, the overwhelming connection in Star Trek is Louise Fletcher, who played Megan's mom in this movie. She was Kai Nguyen, later Vedic Nguyen. She is so impressive in Deep Space Nine. He's really good. Like, she's one of those actors that really succeeds in later in her career by being so impressive on a TV show. There were three cast members that I guessed were in Star Trek, but aren't. And I just want to name them, because I don't know how this. So Kevin Dunn, the dad from Transformers, not ever in Star Trek. I would have expected him to be an admiral back at Starfleet that's just fun up. Yeah, Richard Jenkins, the loudmouth attorney, was never in Star Trek. And most importantly, Ron Silver was never in Star Trek. How was Ron Silver never in Star Trek? He's some kind of alien sex trafficking. He's trafficking in young girls somewhere in the gamma quadrant, and he's purple. I checked in multiple databases, because I was just convinced that those three actors surely were in Star Trek, but they were neither. Louis Fletcher, by the way, the villain character that has stuck with me in a way that I can't watch this movie without thinking, does she have a secret? Has she got a dark side? And of course, the character doesn't in this movie. She's just mom. She's just mom. Long suffering. She's very momish in this. Like just very quiet. You're supposed to sympathize, but I'm just like, she's got a secret. Yeah, you're waiting for her to pop. You're my first husband. I accept shit I don't deserve. Here's how I know Louis Fletcher is awesome. You take that lady, put her in Star Trek, and then you have her sharing scenes with Frank Langella, and another incredible actor. She spins circles around him. She's so good, and she makes his performance seem goofy and campy. And she just owns it. Oh man, she's getting there. If you haven't seen DS9, everybody listening, go watch it. It's really good. Star Trek, catch it. So good. Let's get here to the soundtrack grade. I'd give it a PG for pretty good. It gets pretty good. I enjoyed it right to the end. The last theme that plays as the movie ends in the credits role, I thought was awful and I don't know what it was doing. It was sexy. It had sacks in it. That's what's wrong with it. Lots of sacks. Yeah. Prior to that, no sacks. Hot, gratuitous sacks. Yeah. And then 90 people were still into it. You know, they liked the sacks, but I wasn't one of those people. So stockings stuff. All right, nicely done. The alternate titles just handed to me. Oh, we're going to do social media posts first. I got these backwards. Let's start with Randy with his social media posts. Do it in 200 and Katie characters. Katie characters are less. And Katie characters. Blue steel. A crazy man, guilty of sin. A fragile cop in a tailspin. They duel across the city. Yet it should be titled warm blanket because I fell asleep a little. I understand. Just a little Brian Dunaway. Take it. Blue steel. Who's your top rookie cop character from any film or show? You've been baited. Or when guns don't work, try a car. Tastes my Pontiac once over. Attack, shut up, it's early. That should have killed him too. Yeah. Taste my Pontiac. Brian Abbott, take us home. My apologies. I have two of them. Blue steel. Jamie Lee Curtis, even in a police thriller, finds a way to be the final girl. Oh, nice. Actually. And yeah, totally not at the end of that movie. Sorry. What's your second? Oh, second one is blue steel. Jamie Lee Curtis passes on silver and goes for Brian. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Well, silver wasn't such a dick, you know? Yeah. Silver dick. Although we really don't know how it turned out for the Caribbean. He never came back. He's still in the hospital. Ah, he came back. He survived. He's fine. Yeah. He's in a body cast licking sweat off her belly right now. Blue steel. Blue steel too. Uh, straight to video. Perfect. All right. Here is some fun. Oh, let's go back to this now. All right. Here are your titles. It was almost called Turner and Smooch. Ah, that's pretty good. It's pretty good. Or the Kurgan and a fish called Wanda team up to take down Senator Aaron McComb. That's a, that's a wrong silver character. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That was his name in the time cop, which we keep referring to with the don't touch yourself. Anyway, film sack at gmail.com is a place we get emails. And we got one here today from Chris A who says, Hi Scott, Brian, Brian, and Randy. You guys mentioned the Bond movies and Kingsman in our little spy episode that we did. Our round table. Yep. Says, Now, if you remember the movie Condor Man. Oh, yes. I watched that a lot. What are your thoughts about that? As a 1981 take on Bond in a similar way, the Kingsman have their take. I don't know if I'd agree with that, but I get his point. Another Bond like ones like True Lies or Austin Powers. We've done True Lies. So we have a lot of thoughts on that. He also says, would you consider atomic Bond or the long kiss good night or burn after reading and the life of others? That's an interesting mix, isn't it? Oh, it could keep up. That's too many. It's too many. I mean, atomic Bond we need to do. Because we for sure need to do that. Yeah. I need to be I need to find out if I actually liked it or not, because I saw it in theaters and I didn't think I liked it. But I don't know. I might have liked it. I have a real. We watched it. We watched it when we came to streaming and I remember liking it, but it was that there were a lot of things right around it that came out that had the same kind of thing. Lucy, I think was very similar in delivery. And there was a couple others like Mrs. Wick kind of movies. Oh, yeah, good point or, yeah, or born lady-borns. Yes, lady-born. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot right then. You're totally right about that. Yeah, yeah. The long, the long kiss, did we do long kiss good night? Yes, we suck back. Okay, I think we did. I have a memory of this. I've seen it so many times. Film sack number 446. Okay. Been a while, but yes. Burn after reading, it's more of a comedy. I don't know if that one works. And life of others, I don't know what that is. Never heard of that. Yeah, I don't either. It sounds like a family drama. Like, yeah, I mean, I will say, I think Condorman is a future on Film Sack. I don't think Burn after reading or Austin Powers do. Those are two. Yeah, it's funny because I've never seen Condorman, but I remember wanting to see it as a kid because it felt like something I'd want to see. Comic bookie kind of, which I always assumed, it was like a comic book play and not a spy movie. A little of both. He doesn't really have powers. He's just got a suit. Okay. So there's some of that- Like Iron Man? It's a little like Batman Iron Man meets. Bond sorta. Condors. Disney. Disney. It's Disney. Disney thing, man. Definitely Disney. One of those live action Disney. But we had this on a BHS tape I got from my friend whose dad was the prison Gordon, that whole thing. And just had it on repeat. That was on all the time as a kid. So I would, I'd love to revisit that to be fun. There's one, there's one that I'm really not following. Are you saying life after others? It says the life of others is what it's called. The life of other. Okay, the lives of others. Oh, he wrote life, but is it lives? Okay. That's amazing. That's so cool. That's a German film. Lives of others. Oh yeah, there's no life. It's lives. So that is a German movie that is, uh, how old is that? '84. I mean, it's in Germans. We can't do it. Well, says you. I got subtitles. Well, if it is a good job to capture audio from it. Directed by Florian Henkel von Dannesmark. Ahh! My Liben! That's fantastic. Oh, and he also wrote it. How do I know? Because that same 400 mile name is right there. Right. I think I saw this because I think it was a nominee. An Oscar nominee. I think we watched it for that. What year was this? Oh, six. Yeah, it was six. Not too old. Best in national feature film. And, uh, yeah. Oh, he did the tourist, though. That's a piece of shit. Did you ever see the tourist with Johnny Depp? I haven't seen it. I've heard stuff about it. It was really, really bad. That was the second or the last thing he ever did. And I don't blame him because, man, that was a shit. I don't blame him. I want to know more about Florian Henkel von Dannesmark. You should do that. Oh, full name? Ready? Hope you're sitting down. Florian Maria George Christian Graf Henkel von Dannesmark. Okay. You can't have all the names. Like, what is this guy doing? When the baby's born and you, like, are writing in micro font on the birth certificate. The guy is, the guy is bo-guarding names. I don't like it. Exactly. Uh, we got a text also today from an anonymous listener. 801471.0462. He can use that for text or, uh, voicemails. And he says this. Scott and crew, you've been using, uh, particularly me. You've been using the term chewing the scenery wrong. Well, um, in the recent Robinhood episode, for example, you say at one point, he's amazing in it. Don Johnson eats that scenery. He's really good. I was talking about Rebel Ridge, I think. He says eating or chewing the scenery refers to overacting, which can be a good in the right setting, like comedies. But in most cases, it's bad. I think Nicholas Cage in The Wicker Man says anonymous. You know what? Totally cop to this. He's totally right. I'm using it wrong when I say that. What I mean is when I, I mean. It doesn't mean what you think it means. Yeah, I'm saying, what I'm saying is stealing scenes. That's what I'm saying. Uh, yeah, sure. And chewing the scenery is the wrong word, is the wrong term. So he's absolutely right. I'm happy to, uh, take the correction. So thank you for that. And if you guys have your own corrections, thoughts, feelings, comments, movies to recommend, whatever it may be, keep them coming, film sack@gmail.com or 801-471-0462. Uh, patreon people, no new folks this week. You know what that means. Oh no, you know. We got to work harder. You, uh, you know, we got to talk harder. And, uh, walk taller. No, wait, what? Walk taller. What's the movie? Was it The Rock? Walk tall? Walk tall. Walk tall. Walk tall. Walk tall. Yeah, we got to walk in, walk and talk tall. Anyway. Walk in tall. I'm sure it's just a temporary blip because usually we have new people. And, uh, so if you're at home going, oh man, I should have been that new person. So I get my name read. Well, yeah, get in there. No commercials ever. Pre-show content every week. Monthly specials from those. Mine's right around the corner. Watch for it. Movie related art in the mail. All kinds of other great benefits. Sign up today and get them at patreon.com/filmsack. Remember you can make your name anything. Patreon won't stop you. Make your name anything. It's got has to say it. Yeah, I'll say it. If you say, um, I don't know, I have 18 nipples. I'll say it. Whatever. No. Wow. I'll do it. I know it's a lot. Our next movie is The Foreigner. I think this is the Jackie Chan thing, right? Yes, yes. 2017's The Foreigner. It's on Netflix. I remember it being controversial. Uh, it's the only memory I have. Let's see. Martin Campbell, this is a serious movie, right? Like it's, uh, it's not him being all jokey Jackie Chan, I think. I think it's like... Jokey Chan. Jokey Chan, um, this is the guy that made Casino Royale and Vertical Limit. This is like a serious movie. I'm just quite, I don't know. I haven't seen it, but it's got Charlie Murphy. I don't know. Oh, what? Charlie Murphy, I love me. This is a humble, here's your short thing. The humble businessman with a buried past seeks justice when his daughter is killed and an act of terrorism. A cat and mouse conflict ensues and the government official who's past may hold clues to the killer's identities ensue. So it sounds like... And that's Pierce Brosnan, by the way. Yeah. It sounds serious, which I'm down with. Let's do it. I want to see Jackie Chan. Ro, Ro, Ro your boat in this one? I'm guessing he shoots people and then says, um, uh, yeah. Do you want papa picked up pickled papa? That's the one. I need a flute, player to flute. I wish I had that handy. I never have it handy. Anyway, uh, that's next week. The foreigner currently streaming on. Oh, doesn't say Netflix Netflix. Netflix, get in there. Netflix. Yeah, that's stupid. Netflix get in there. That's that's stupid boxing thing is over. So you should be able to watch your stuff normally now. We should express our opinion. I'm so glad I didn't. I'm so glad I didn't watch it. From everything I've heard about it was such a non-event. We were just trying to watch something. I didn't watch it. We were just trying to watch anything on Netflix and it was all jacked. Oh, really? It was all. Oh, wow. F'd up. I'm really, really glad I watched it. In particular, if you're interested in what it looks like under the skin of a woman's brow. If you've ever. Oh, the lady fight. A woman's face sliced open dramatically. What? Yeah, really? Yeah, they had so they had a pre-fight. It's like a band. And so they had the opening act. There were there were six fights on the undercard and they showed three of them. And the second to last was the fight with the fight of the night. Like it was like the fight of the century for women's boxing. And the person who won for everyone except the judges got her face cut wide open. A very deep, very broad cut. A broad cut because she's a lady. She's a lady. Yeah, it's rude, sexist. I think that the main attraction though ended up being more like having George Bush senior on his wheelchair throwing a ball out at the World Series. Like it's just a stupid stunt. It wasn't anything. It was dumb. I saw the highlights. It was blame lame. It's clearly just a money-making thing. But those girls, they were fighting, man. That was it was we're going to get a part three from the two of them. Yeah, they were great. This was the rebatch and it didn't settle anything. No, no. But it also does turn out that Iron Mike is a little less iron at age 58. I mean, what are you going to do? You're 58. He'd still kick my ass in them hallway. So whatever. Hallway. And there was no knockout. So what a boring. It was just boring. Boring it was the most boring. I personally was glad that no one lost consciousness. Yeah, but I'm just saying it's a boring 40 million for Paul and I'm boring, boring 20 million for you. I hate the full 40 million. You only paid 1799 a month. All right. 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