Gemara Markings Daf Yomi
Bava Metzia 49b, 50
Memtesum at Bayes and Third Wide Line picking up at this mission deals with price fraud. When you're dealing with an item that has a set market price in time and a place where there is such a set market price, a acceptable market price. So the revival were very concerned that customers not get ripped off, merchants not get ripped off, so there is a range that is acceptable to deviate from the set market price. So if for a particular commodity, there's a set market price. Let's just say the allowed deviation potentially is within one sixth, one sixth more, one sixth less of the thing of the cost, let's say a hundred dollars, charge less than one sixth more or the purchaser gets it for one sixth with less than one sixth difference. There is one deal, let's say the difference between what the item is worth and what it was sold for is exactly a sixth, let's say it's more than a sixth. So some of those situations will say the deal stands, some situations will say the deal stands if some time goes by and a person has a chance to check out if the price was fair. Some of those situations will say no, actually the amount that was overpaid or underpaid has to be refunded or paid sometimes will say both sides come back out. So here is the mission, hai no, I know we'll call price fraud. Our ball cassif, I dot underlined arba cassif, may estimate arba cassif lacella. So the ratio that we're given is four to twenty four, four silver maos to twenty four silver maos, that's a sella, which is she sues le mecach, that's one sixth comma. Okay, at my time with the haxier, let's say a person bought something and there was some sort of price discrepancy, more or less. When can a person say that he wants to either return, that would be maybe return the whole item and get a complete refund, maybe return and get the difference of the price fraud, but ad kadeshi you're a latago le crevite. It has to be the amount of time it would take to show to some other sort of like wheeler dealer business expert in those areas or maybe a relative. Okay, that was the, she just rebounded, hai no ribi tarphen, we box would be tarphen in the city of load, ribi tarphen, he gave a hai raw, he gave a saka laka that actually different hai na, schmäinne kessif, and I don't know why schmäinne kessif was eight silver maos mieschen vabra out of twenty four kessif, in a sella, that's a schle schlemäckach, that's actually a greater discrepancy, that's up to a third of the sale price, that's eight, out of some of these were twenty four. Now the merchants of load were actually, when they heard this, they were very happy, they're able to make more profit, sam kutagari load, they were happy, the merchants of load, the amrlahem, the good rabbi, ribi tarphen, said to them shortly afterwards, that kol hai yoi, my squiggle-and-line kol hai yoi, all day long, mutter lachsor, if it was a price fraud issue, the deal can be either brought back, it's a loaded term, this lachsor, it either means the whole deal can be taken off, or maybe the purchaser can come back and request the difference of the price fraud, but something can be changed, and it's for all day, amrlahe, so the merchants of the city of load, said back to ribi tarphen, you know what rabbi, thank you but no thank you, yan nie achla nie ribi tarphen vimkein meinu, we're going to leave ribi tarphen in our place and rather, kazrula de vie kachama, we prefer the approach of the kachama, seems like they felt the kachama's approach now, would actually be better for them, and they were going to go with that, says the gamura, itmar, we have a makhlokas between Rav and shmul, and we talk about this one sixth price discrepancy, how do you view that? So very simply, if you have an item that is, the market price would be six, and let's say it's sold for five, so it's sold for less than the market price, it's sold for seven, that's more than the market price, let's have an item that's six, and you sell it for seven, so viewing it from the perspective of what it's worth, that was a one sixth increase in the price, it's worth six, one six six is one plus another one, that would be seven, but let's say you have an item that's worth seven, and you charge six for it, that's only a one seventh price discrepancy, which is less than one six, and that would be permissible, so this could be makhlokas between Rav and shmul, itmar, Rav we circle, it says shisus le makhach, and julan shisus le makhach, shaninu is how we understand the mission, whereas shmul, who I circled, amar shisus maos, an angelic shisus maos, a sixth of the money paid nami, and I double underlined nami shaninu, so when we're talking about price fraud, the way that Rav understands the mission is a one sixth price discrepancy of the items, whatever the item costs, one sixth more, one sixth less, that's going to be the cut off point, shmul says it's also one sixth, if you're looking at how much money was paid, and now we go on to explain, colon, we have an a case and a b case, a is where they, I would all agree, there's prices, a claim of a na, b is the makhlokas, what I did over here is I dot underlined every time the actual value of the item appears, and I put a diamond when it's talking about how much money was paid, so we're going to have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, about ten different scenarios, the diamond is always going to be the actual money paid, and the dot underline is going to be the actual value, the real value of the item, so here we go, I hope the marking helps, if you have an item shavishisa, I dot underlined shavishisa, if it was actually worth six, and it was sold for bikhamshah, shavishisa, or shavishisa, if it's worth six, I dot underlined shavishisa, and put a diamond around bishiva, in other words worth six, and either sold for five, or worth six, and sold for seven, kuli amole pliki, all opinions, Rav, shmul all agree, the basar mecha aslinan, you look at it from the perspective of the actual item, and what it's worth, the ona havi, there was either either one sixth overcharge, or one sixth undercharge, and that would be the ona point, comma, b, ki pliki, where they're arguing, that would be Rav and shmul, is shavishamshah, I dot underlined shavishamshah, bishisa, and put a diamond around shissa, or shavishiva, I dot underlined shavishiva, bishisa, and put a diamond around shissa, so where it was really worth five, and he sold it for six, now it's really worth five, to get to six, that's a one-fifth price discrepancy, which is more significant, or shavishiva, it's really worth seven, and then it was sold for shissa six, so it's a spend, are you looking at it from the perspective of what it's really worth, or are you looking at it from the perspective of what it was sold? That's where we say, le shmul, underlined shmul, according to shmul, who says to amar, busar mohos asli naan, we follow how much it's actually worth, as well as mohos, as well as the amount of money paid, well, edoy na havi, both those cases would be one-six price discrepancy, and it would hit that sweet spot if I na, comma, la rava, and la rava, the amar, busar mekahasli naan, that we follow the actual value of the item, well, then it depends, if it's shavisham shav, it's worth five, bishis, it was sold for six, well, that's greater than a one-six price discrepancy, and therefore, bitzal mekah havi, greater than one-six price discrepancy, the whole deal is called off, either side can say, they want to back out, they want their money back, if the item back, either side can claim that, whereas comma, shavishiva bishisa, if it was worth seven, but it was sold for six, that is less than a one-six price discrepancy, and therefore, it's mekahila havi, that would be considered mekahila, where we assume that one side is fine with the slight price discrepancy. That is the analysis initially, kamu shmul amar, where would shmul say that there is mekahila, or bitzal mekah, in other words, less than a one-six price discrepancy, more than a one-six price discrepancy, where is that, that's haikha de leika shasus mishneh stardim, that's where there is not a one-sixth price discrepancy from either side, kamu connector valheika shasus mitzada, looking at it from either perspective, you can get to one-sixth, oni no havi, that's considered the sweet spot where it's been a rip-off, and the halakhas that applied to alina would apply there. Okay, that's maklokas, rav, and shmul, it's nan, I put a triangle on this tanan, we're gonna quote our mission and show that it seems like that would be good for one of the two opinions, maybe like shmul, four, five lines later, first of all, and is vitimanya, there's a it's not a second word of line, put a triangle around that, and three lines from the bottom, the third to last word is a taniya, I put a triangle around that, all three of these are gonna seem to indicate more like what shmul said. So here we go, let's go with the mishneh, the mishneh said, right angles, hai no arba kessif, mesten arba kessif, lacella shasus le mekha, hai no ha, the rip-off point is four silver monies, out of twenty-four silver monies, and acella, one-sixth of the mekha. Okay, my love, de zovin, so should we not say that what we're talking about over here is shavi estrim, I dotted underline shavi estrim, it was something that was really worth twenty. Beasten vah arba, and I put a diamond on esten vah arba for twenty-four, so its real market price was twenty, it was silver twenty-four, ushmami no, sounds very much like shisus, mous, nami shani no, that not only is there was a sixth price discrepancy from the perspective of the actual value of the item, but also there's a one-sixth price discrepancy on the money paid, because if you go from twenty-four was the money paid, one-sixth less than that, four less than would be twenty, and that would be just like shmul, shall we say that? It says it more than no, low, comma, what did the mishneh mean when it used those terms twenty and twenty-four, it meant desa vin shavi estrim vah arba, I dotted underline estrim vah arba, something that was worth twenty-four was sold for estrim, and I put a diamond around estrim for twenty, and that is the case, and even Rav would agree with that. The kamoris is a one-second over here, mina saune, who would be the one who got ripped off in this case? Question mark, comma, muy kar, you'd apparently be the seller, because really he has something over twenty-four, so that only for twenty. Well the problem with that is, aima saifah, if you keep reading in the mishneh, here's about another ten words in the mishneh, and it says the following, adba tai muchulah hapsir, up until what point can you make the return? Well, bikadeshi yir el et agar, oi le kroy voi, the amount of time it would take to show a business expert in this item, or a relative, that's the end of the quote of the mishneh to connect with Amorov Nachman, lei shanu, that's only for the lei keach, the purchaser that he has that time limit. Aval muy kar, it's the seller, l'olum kaiser, he could back out forever. Well, so if you can back out forever, the mishneh said only, you know, the, I don't know, the twenty-six and a half minutes, wherever long U.S.S. takes to show an expert. Uh, lo, so I squiggle on it in the yellow, we have to come on to a different understanding, it must be, dissolving, that what was sold was something, shavhi estuenvahr, by a dot underland shavh estuenvahr, but it was worth twenty-four, but estuenvih timmani, and they put a diamond on estuen timmani. So it's really worth twenty-four, and it was sold for twenty-eight, okay, in that case, it was the purchaser who got slightly gypped, and that doesn't show us anything, though, as far as the maklokas, Ravnishmul, because they would both agree that, uh, that would definitely be considered, um, price fraud. So it's not, we try again, we, uh, quote another part of our mishneh, put a triangle here, and the, uh, quote of the mishneh goes, we're about aligned in a couple words, this is, uh, Rabbi Tarfen. Her Rabbi Tarfen, Rabbi Tarfen, uh, taught in the city of lo, that, oh, na-ah, is shmona cassif, eight, uh, silver monies, más invah arba cassa, at a twenty-four silver monies, la sella, shlish le maklokas, which is one-third, and we're gonna analyze this very similar to the way we analyze the chachamim, my love, so should we not say, desovin, shavi shaser, a dot underlined shavi shaser, something worth sixteen, ba-estrin, vah arba, and I put a diamond-run estimate of arba for twenty-four, so it's really worth sixteen, and you're paying twenty-four, well, let's see, um, ushmamina, now, where do you get to one-third, starting from the sixteen, or starting from the twenty-four, ushmamina, shlish mawis, namishaninu, that not only is it, for the perspective of the actual value of the item, but even from the perspective of the money paid, for instance, in this case, the money paid was twenty-four, well, one-third of twenty-four is eight, so might as eight, that would be sixteen, it works out, however, if you're going from what is actually worth, which is sixteen, when you get to twenty-four, that's not one-third, that's one-half, that's fifty percent, and again, then, this, this would seem to indicate the way, if we understand this is what the mission means, like shmawis, so the more it says, no, low, the case here is rather dissolving, it was something sold to shove the "s" into our bow, it was worth twenty-four, I don't know what it's twenty-four, the "shaysar", and I put a diamond around, the "shaysar" for sixteen, so it's worth twenty-four, sold for sixteen, the price discrepancy there is one-third, because, if it's worth twenty-four, a third of that is eight, minus eight, that would be sixteen, once again, though, the Gamora points out that this is a bit problem at it, because Minasana, if it was worth twenty-four, then sold for sixteen, who's the one who got gypped in that case, Minasana, Micah, the seller, well, I'm a Safa, if you read the continuation, the later part of the mission, it said, here's a quote, six words from the Safa, al-Mrulahin, kolayyun, which Al-Aqsaar, and he told him, Riptarvin said, "All day, back out is allowed, connect Ramrov Naqman, Rov Naqman, qualify this as Laishanu, El-The-Lei Eyach, all day of Al-The-Mrulah, if it's the seller who got ripped off, Lao-Elamraiser, it can go forever to take the sale back, El-A, so he squiggled underline the El-A, rather it must be dissovin, that the case is something else, it was something sha'vi, and I dot underlined Khaf-Dalit, twenty-four, Betilsen who trained, for thirty-two, and I put a diamond around thirty-two, by the way, that's our last dot underlined in diamond, for the Isugia, rather it's something that's worth twenty-four, and it was sold for thirty-two, so from the perspective of the actual value of the item twenty-four, a one-third price discrepancy would get you up to thirty-two, it doesn't shed any delight on our maklokas, Rov, and schmulahin. Tanya, the Gamora Nal, though, and the third, to make source trying to prove or disprove, Rava schmul, says we actually have a brice, which sounds just like schmulahin. The brice starts here and it goes to the third line on Nunamadalif, says the brice. Misha Hutzal al-Av, the one who was placed upon him, the one who was deceived, Yada al-Yana, and he has the upper hand. Kaitzad, how so? Well, maklar-lawi, if he was sold something, sha'vi-kha-mesh-bhisheis, it's really worth five, but he paid, he was charged six, Minasana, who's the one who got ripped off, the like at the purchaser, so if that's the case, Yada al-Yana, the purchaser is the one who has the upper hand on what to do next. Rata al-Yana al-Yana, if he wants, he could say to the seller, "Tain-li-mawi-sai, give me my money," or he could say, "Tain-li-masha-in-i-sani, give me that," which was a ripoff amount, in other words, "return to me, one, I'll keep the eye to my butt, I want one money back." Kama, maklar-lawi, if he sold them something, sha'vi-sheis-bhisheis-bhisheis, some of those really worth six, for five, in that case, Minasana, who got ripped off, the mauchar, the seller, Yada al-Yana, therefore the seller has the upper hand, Rata al-Mawi-sai, if he wants, he could say back, "Tain-li-maki, I'll take my item back, oh, Ten-li-masha-in-i-sani," or give me the extra one which you ripped me off. That's the end of this next lesson, clearly we see that it goes either way, whether it's one-six from the perspective of the mecha, of the actual value of the item, or one-six from the mauch, the money that was paid, which is just like schwoh, period. Ibi-al-a-hu, I put a, I would, let's say, put a diamond around, paklai-s-misha, so let's actually say double-underline, let's double-underline paklai-s-misha-sus. We have a question of if it's less than a one-six price discrepancy, and I put a number one in the margin, and then I'm at base, about 11, 12 lines down, the last one line is bit-to-mekkach, and I put a marked bit-to-mekkach the same way, and that's number two, so we're going to basically, till the end of the number base, two questions. Here's the first. So back to the third line, on Nunamut-al-a-hu, Ibi-al-a-hu-sus, paklai-s-misha-sus. Let's say it's less than a one-six price discrepancy, le-ra-banan. What do we call that? We said that the person who, you know, got ripped off by less than one-six, it's m'chila. Yeah, he's fine with that. Well, is that, like, immediately, le-al-t-r-hag-e-m'chila, or be-kadeshi-r-la-tag-r-la-kri-va? You have to wait the amount of time, I don't know, that's called a half an hour, that it would take for the typical person to show the thing that he bought to someone who knows or relative. Now, parenthetically, the Gamara jumps in for a moment and says, "I put the brackets in over here and ended the brackets about five lines later, the last one of the line is my right before that." So, let's just read within the brackets. The brackets is, well, one second. Would there be any difference? You seem to see le-ra, and if you would say, "Well, if we're going to make the amount of time that is the time limit here to make this claim, the kadeshi-r-la-tag-r-la-tag-r-la-kri-va, the amount of time would take to show you're an expert on the prices or relative, my eka, then where would there be any distinction, Ben-chasus, if it was an exactly one-sixth ripoff, le-paksmi-chasus, then less than one-sixth ripoff?" Well, no, there would be a difference. You know what the difference would be? Eka, there would be. De-il-chasus, I underline "il-chasus", if it was exactly a one-sixth price discrepancy, Yoda-al-halyoina, the one who got ripped off, would have the upper hand. He could either rots a hy-zer, if he wants to get back out of the whole deal, or rots a cleaner... No, he could keep the deal, u-mak-seraina, and he gets returned the amount that he was ripped off. That's if it was exactly one-sixth, however, kama. I underline these two words, "il-lu-paksmi-chasus", if the discrepancy was less than one-sixth, then kana, the deal stands, it's just mak-seraina. That if the person comes, he could make the claim that he would like the amount of money that he was the price discrepancy refunded. My, and now back into the memorial, so that is the question. Okay, so tashmah, come in here, we have a point which sort of takes us to the third line on almond bays, come in here. So, we're going to quote our Mishnah now. The last three words of the Mishnah was that the merchants of load, when they heard from a hearth and his second point that it would be all day, they said, "You know what, we prefer the approach of the rabbis, tashmah, we're going to go with that." Khazrul al-divreh-hah-hah-mim. Now, that's those two words in right angles, "sav-ruh-hah". I squiggle underline the "sav-ruh-h", "sav-ruh", they figured. The rabbis discussing this issue in the base, Medrish, who wanted to conclude our question from here, figured that, "Pakkai-smi-shlish-lirab-tar-fen-kapak-smi-shlish-lirab-an-dami", that the, well, exactly, will parallel the less than a third discrepancy of "rab-tar-fen" to less than a sixth discrepancy of the "rab-an-an", in other words, from zero to one-six rip-off of the "rab-an-an" is like from zero to one-third rip-off of "rab-tar-fen". Now, let's take a look at this. Iamrish, I squiggle underline the word "e", and two lines later into the end of the line. Iamrish, squiggle underline the word "e". Iamrish, if you want to say "pakkai-smi-shlish-lirab-an-an", that when it's less than a one-six price discrepancy of the "rab-an-an", is there a time limit there? Yes. Bikadeishi, you're a latago la creva. Call about half an hour to show to an expert. Call the "rab-tar-fen" and then when the merchants in load heard that "rab-tar-fen", you would have "kol-ha-yum" all day. That could be like 7,8,9,10,12 hours. "Mishu-makkai-clazur", makes sense why they would go back to the "shit-es-koh-ham-em". "L-a-e", we squiggle underline the "l-e", "l-e-em-as", "pakkai-smi-shlish-lirab-an-an", that less than one-sixth according to the "rab-an-an" is "lal-tra-hav-yum-chila". Immediately, the person who ever got slightly ripped off is "mocha-that-amount". "Ula-rab-tar-fen", according to the "rab-tar-fen-nami", "lal-tra-hav-yum-chila", immediately the "rab-af" is established and it's a valid transaction. "Amai-chazru", why would they go back to the "divre-chah-ham-em"? The "all-day" of "rab-tar-fen" is for exactly a one-third. So as long as they're careful not to mischarge a discrepancy of a third, everything should be fine, but the "rab-tar-fen-nih-lu-t-favy" merchants would be much better off if they stayed with "rab-tar-fen". The "rab-tar-fen-nami", the "rab-tar-fen-nami", which according to the "rab-tar-fen-nami" would be "oin-no", that would be "oin-no". You'd have to return the whole amount, "lal-tra-hav-yum-chila". "Amai-chazru" would say "no", "lal-tra-hav-yum-chila" for the person. He'd leave the deal as it is. That is the point. The more it turns around and says, "Well, one second", that's assuming that we have a direct parallel where the "oin-no-appoint" is reached according to the "chachamom" at one-sixth, and the "oin-no-appoint" is reached at exactly one-third according to "rab-tar-fen". However, "mi-saveras", who says the "pak-has-mi-schila-rab-tar-fen", the less-than-one-third-price discrepancy of "rab-tar-fen", is "ki-pak-has-mi-sus-lurab-nih", and that was all this stuff. That was the assumption. "Dummy", question mark comma, rather, "lo", it's not. This is how we parallel the two. Mi-sus-fe-ad-schlisch, when you go from a one-sixth-price discrepancy to one-third according to "rab-tar-fen", "ki-sus-us-ass-ma-lurab-nih", "dummy". That's like a sixth, so when you're dealing with the "rab-nih", when you get two, one-sixth-price discrepancy, that is when there is the point of "rab-tar-fen", and "rab-tar-fen" would say that point of "rab-tar-fen", is from one-sixth to one-third. In other words, at this point, we are no longer really within the realm of our original "e-bi-luhu", but we'll continue just to get clarity on what it is that their opinions lead to. "e-hak-i-ve-ga-mora" says, "bim-ai-sam-kum-i-kara". If that's the case, then why exactly would the "tagari" load originally happy with "rab-tar-fen"? If you're going to reach the "i-na" point at one-sixth, according to bold opinions, and just question of whether you have to get two-a-third till it's "bitz-el-nekach" or not, like, were they happy? "Tif-schite", should we maybe conclude from here that "bitz-el-nekach" according to the "rab-banan", "la-olam-koser", that when we talk about "bitz-el-nekach", whatever that point is, but according to "rab-banan", "bitz-el-nekach" a little say is greater than one-sixth price discrepancy, that that would be, you can return it, like, forever? Like, a week later or a month later? It has to be. It would seem like that from here. "De-cave-and-am-r-luhu-re-bi-tar-fen", because, since "rab-tar-fen" said to them, "hav-ye-na", there would be "a-sa-m-ru", they were happy. were happy. Kiyamrluhul kolayyam, when he told them all day, Khazru, they backed off and decided to stay with the shiitist Rabbanan. Diyisaka Daitan, if you were to think that Bitzalnekachla Rabbanan, that the Bitzalnekach where the whole deal can be called off, according to the shiitist Qaamim, is Qedashir Lutagra Le Kriwai, the amount of time that's called about half an hour, bemai sampru, why in the world would there have been a Simbaqah, what would they have been happy about? So we answer that really Bitzalnekach, according to the Rabbanan, is only the amount of time it takes to show to an expert, sampru, and they were happy, Bishasus Asmah, with exactly the one sixth price discrepancy through Abtar for Makhila. It would be a Makhila at that point, whereas the Rabbanan, it would be aina. Let's see, Rashi, Rashi is about 8, 9 lines below where we are in the Gomorat, even by sampru, Bishasus Asmah, Deha De Amran, that which we said, Misha Susva Adshlish, that when you go from one sixth price discrepancy to one third, Le Riptar fund, is Qishasus Rabbanan, it's like when you have exactly one sixth going through Abbanan, Misha Susumala Amru, Falaishasus Asmah, that's only when it's one sixth and above, and not one sixth itself, and being experts in pricing, they would be able to keep that exact price discrepancy in mind when charging customers. By the way, here's our second question, and it's the other way now, when there's a greater than one sixth price discrepancy according to the Rabbanan, Abhila, the Bitilnekach, according to the Shittas Rabbanan, is the party that got ripped off, able to back out of the whole transaction forever, Alum Khaizar, Odilma, or maybe a much smaller amount of time, Bikudesh Yerla Tagarla Kroyvoy, the amount of time we take to show an expert or a relative, and just like we did in the first version, we will bracket off the next four lines or so, which clarify the question, if you're going to try to say one second, if it's Bikudesh Yerla Tagarla Kroyvoy, the amount of time that the deal can be reneged upon legally, because the amount of time it takes to show an expert or a relative, well then Maika Ben Shussos, Li Yerla Shussos, what difference would there be between an exact one sixth rip-off and greater than a one sixth rip-off? Well, Ika, there would be a difference. D'ilu Shussos, and the one Shussos, if it's a one sixth price discrepancy, Michian Nis Aneh Heuser, the one who got ripped off, and only the one who got ripped off is the one who's able to back out, whereas V'ilu, Yerla Shussos, and the one Yerla Shussos, if the price discrepancy is greater than a sixth, then Shneh Heusern, either side, can totally back out of the deal. That's the end of the bracketed section. My, and that's our question, basically. The Bitzelnekach, according to the Rabannan, is that the deal can be called off any time of the future, like a week later, a month later, or within like the half an hour or so that takes to show an expert. So Tashma, similar structure to what we had, Nama Daulif, we quote the last three words, excuse me, of the Mishnah, put right angles in, because we will be breaking up. Now, Ika Amris, my squiggle, and then the Yamris, if you want to say all is fine and well, that Bitzelnekach, according to Rabannan, equals how much is the time that the Rabannan would say, you can call off the transaction, Bikadeshi, Yerla, Tog, or La Croix, by the amount of time it takes to show expert or your relative, call it about half an hour, Ularip Tarfen, Kol Haoye, where Tarfen said all day, well, Mishum Haoye, Khazru, that's why they went back to Rabannan, because they would much rather have that time limitation and then the sale is established as opposed to giving all day, Ela E. Yamris, if however you want to say, we squiggle it on the Yamris, that Bitzelnekach, La Rabannan, when the total deal can be called on Rabannan, lo, oh, you love him, please, that's forever, well, my Khazru, Bilirip Tarfen, why would they go back from the Tarfen to the Rabannan, Nihalu Tvei, it would be much more desirable to them, Decamash v'ilu Aina, Kol Haoye, that you would have the possibility of Aina all day, Visulo, and then that's it, like it once the day finishes, no more, you know, refund on the deal, well, answers, look a more interesting answer, Bitzelnekach, lo Shriach, Bitzelnekach is actually not that common, and therefore that benefit that we thought was really a benefit since it's not really common, it's not really a benefit, it's only a benefit if it's common that it happens, but if it rarely happens that it's a greater rip-off than one third, then you're not really gaining anything. Amor Rava, Sirud Rava's name, Rava says the Hilchassal, here's some Halakhala Mysa, we're going to have an A, B, and C, A, the Pakas Misha Susif, there's a price discrepancy, that's less than one sixth, Nihalnekach immediately, so if you have someone who's selling something and there's a set market price for it and the purchaser pays, let's say one eighth more or one seventh more, the deal stands, whereas B, yes or else Yesus, if the price discrepancy is greater than a one sixth, Bitzelnekach, the deal can totally be called off and see if it's exactly one sixth, Yesus, Kana, the deal stands, there can't be a total refund, however, Maksir, you know, there would be a refund of the discrepancy between the actual market price and what was paid, Viseve Zhe and both of these, the Ainaab case and the Bitzelnekach case, there's a severe time limitation, or statute of limitations, because they sheer the tug of the Kroyvite, it's not open-ended for, you know, forever, even for the whole day, it's the amount of time it would take to check with a local expert or relative. Tanekachas is Rava, we have a Brissa, it sounds just like Rava, this Brissa goes almost for six lines of the two dots, and then we'll call it a shear, and here we go. Says the Brissa, A, Ainaab is Pachismus Yesus, Nickna Mechach, if the price discrepancy was less than one sixth, then the deal is done, Shalom Al Yisrael, B, yes or else Yesus, if the price discrepancy was greater than one sixth, Bitzelnechach, the whole deal can be called off by either side, comma, C, Yesus, if it's exactly one sixth, Kana, the deal stands, but Moksterena, whichever side was ripped off is entitled to get the money they were ripped off for D. V. Rebbe Nossen, the Bokstereb Nossen, and if you ask yourself, well, it seems like the way that Rava, about six lines ago, explained things was not the way the Mishnah did, that's okay, even though Rava was a fourth, fifth generation Amurakus, he just has, as we quoted right now, this Rib Nossen opinion, who is a Tana to rely on, continues the Tanek source, Ribhuda Nossi, the way Boksterenaer, he says Yad Maikr al-Al-Yehna, that the seller has the upper hand, of course, that's if the seller was the one who got ripped off, the same would apply, the buyer would have the upper hand, if the buyer wanted to get ripped off, and now we're talking about if the seller got ripped off, Yad Maikr al-Yehna, Rotsal-Yehmaalay, if you want, you could say, Tainli-Mecri, give me the item back, and I'll refund the money, or, Tainli-Machayni-Sani, you know what, you still have to give me the amount that there was a price discrepancy, Vizet, Vizet, in both of those cases where there's Alinaa, exactly a six, or Bittil-Meca, greater than a six, but Kadashir al-Atagrailikrai-Vai, it has to be within the amount of time that it would take to show an expert, or a relative. Adkhan.