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UK Column News Podcast 22nd November 2024

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(upbeat music) - Good afternoon. Today is Friday, the 22nd of November 2024. Welcome to UK column news. I'm your host, Brian Garish. Delighted to be joined today by Debbie Evans, but sadly, Mark Anderson will not be joining us from the States as he's poorly today. But nevertheless, we've got a very interesting and we think exciting news for you today. We're gonna be focusing on health, the fallout really of COVID-19, the vaccinations, lockdown policy, and above all, the work of our supposed regulator, the MHRA. And we have a particular announcement to make. This is an exclusive UK column news. And we're hoping to be joined by Cheryl Granger a little bit later in the news. Now, we'll tell you more in due course, but I'm just gonna start off by saying, let's remind ourselves a little bit of all the work that the UK column team did, particularly Debbie and Cheryl Granger, in order to inform the UK public what was really happening around the vaccination program. And in particular, adverse reactions as recorded on the yellow card system, run by the MHRA. Now, this is just a very small selection of articles and reports that UK column put out. There's no smoke without fire, there's Debbie's blog, there's articles and interviews, and we'll just continue on through. We even got the engagement of people like Sir Christopher Chope MP, who was very happy to say to us that he was very willing to learn more about the failures of the system and how the system actually worked because it was clear when we talked to him in private, at least that he had little understanding in some areas. And of course, we shouldn't blame him for that because of course, MPs and members of the Lords were not being properly briefed on what was happening. And so it took the UK column team to step up to the mark in order to start pushing out more information. I've already mentioned this lady's name, but let's pop her on screen. Cheryl Granger has been working with the UK column and working on her own in the background to tackle what we believe is a complete failure of the MHRA regulatory system, at least to try and keep the UK public safe. So Cheryl has done a huge amount of work and she's going to be central to today's news. And we very much hope that in the latter stages of today's news, we're going to be able to have Cheryl with us to tell us a little bit more about what's happening live. So stay posted for that. Now I want to also remind the audience today that all of the data that UK column stored onto the database, this was government release data, which has subsequently disappeared from MHRA channels, at least, but you can still find it here. If you go to www.yellowcard.uk column.org, you see the yellow opening page. And if you click on view adverse reaction data, that will take you into the database itself. And you will see something like this where you can actually see the actual government figures on the respective vaccine manufacturers. You can see the reports, the reactions and the fatalities. But most importantly, you can enter into the database and search for particular things that you are particularly interested in. So that material hasn't gone away and that is the address for you to access it. Now Debbie, let me welcome you to the UK column. It seems we have the more mature team on today, so we'll do our best. And what have you got? And what can you tell us about this special event around MHRA and MHRA data? - Well, yes, good afternoon, everyone. Lovely to be here as always. And as you know, the MHRA have been, well, we've had them scrutinizing them for since the beginning of the lockup. And I have to say that Cheryl Granger has been an absolute stalwart. She's been incredible. You have no idea what she's been doing behind the scenes. And this is all with regards to pregnancy monitoring data. So this is gonna be, it's groundbreaking. It's simply groundbreaking. So please stay tuned to the end of the news. And those of you who are vaccine injured, vaccine bereaved, I'm hoping that this news will be particularly important for you as well. But before we get on to more about the MHRA, because there will be more about the MHRA, let's talk about antimicrobial resistance awareness week. Because that's what it is. And of course, Charles Mallet was talking about it on Wednesday with regards to one health and animals. But I want to focus a little bit on what's been going on on the human side. And I've got a video to show you. And I do apologize in advance. Some of the children that they have used are actually probably too young for us to properly understand them. They are literally that young. And I have to say that vaccines and antimicrobial resistance are inextricably linked. So let's have a look at this little piece of video. (gentle music) (gentle music) - It's a real estate so wonderful. We have to work together to keep our world. - But we don't use them supposedly wisely. You can leave the antimicrobial resistance and make it better decided to treat. - 95% of people who think they have penicillin allergy are actually allergic. - False allergies lead to patients receiving less effective treatment. I can stay in hospital longer. - Taking diagnostic samples before starting antibiotics means that we can start smart and then focus when treating patients like me. - Switching to oral antibiotics can save the NHS millions and means patients can go home sooner. - Infection prevention is important too. Vaccine tells us to keep us safe from infections. I have had my vaccine to protect me and my friends. - What is it called? - It's also called the cough. - It's called scientific drugs. - Antimicrobial resistance is everyone's problem. - I want to death, death to be antibiotics for life. - I'm an antibiotic guardian, are you? - Debbie, if I may, if I could just come back in there because I'm seeing that video for the first time along with UK column viewers, the audience today, I find this utterly disgusting that young children are being used to push across a message which they cannot possibly understand. I would go so far as to say this. And that is actually abuse of children. And I wonder what the children's reaction would be if they were showing people in wheelchairs as a result of vaccine damage. I think this is utterly disgraceful whoever produced this video. - Yeah, it was Lancashire NHS Trust and there were, but the internet is abounding with antimicrobial resistance and I chose that one, Brian, specifically for that reason because I felt it was so shocking. Those children cannot possibly know what they're saying. They cannot possibly understand what they're saying, but who else is hearing them? And we have to go back really to Dame Sally Davis and act now. That's what she wants to do, act and play, act and play. This is all the whole message of antimicrobial resistance and Dame Sally Davis, while she's a resistance fighter, don't you know, and she calls herself a resistance fighter. But let's just remind ourselves of who she actually is because she was a previous chief medical officer and she is now the UK special envoy for antimicrobial resistance. And antimicrobial resistance is her baby. And I don't forget Mike's often talking about her because she's the lady that recommended using baby wipes when wiping your hands if you should touch Nova Jock. I'll say no more. But here I have a few of her tweets because she's superwoman. So this is the first tweet where she says that superbugs are on the rampage and note please that this is in a hospital environment. And she very much looks like the cartoon character and she says tests show bacterial infections and she's got superpower. And if we go to the next slide, we've got part two because her superpowers now in the local hospital, please note that these are hospitals she's showing, but they're waning. So what should she do? Well, in the next slide, you'll see that she's flying off to the United Nations because together, she and the United Nations can beat AMR. So I decided to fly off to the United Nations as well. And who did I see there? But Ted Ross, this was just last week. This was in Jeddah where they had a high level ministerial meeting talking about antimicrobial resistance. And what did he have to say? So what he had to say was that he felt, he said that AMR was killing 1.3 million people a year. We have to act now. So as well as Dame Sally Davis, I'm going to introduce you to Professor Dr. Professor Diane Ashiru. She's the lead pharmacist for antimicrobial resistance in the UK. She's a professor of public health. And here she is showing off her cupcakes, for antibiotic and antimicrobial awareness week, her awarecakes. And if you zoom into that at some point, you'll see lots of bugs and lots of lovely things on her cakes. But it's a massive, massive issue. And I just want to show you a selection of what's been circulating around social media. So we'll go through them quite quickly. So here we've got the HSE memes. Antibiotics were discovered 100 years ago. We need to keep them effective for another 100 years. We've got a meme there from the World Health Organization, Antibiotics and Lifesavers. And we can go on and see that on Twitter or X, the UK HSA have gone blue. This is the Cunard and Royal Lifer Buildings flooded in blue neon light, because apparently that's the color of AMR. And then we've got the NHS moving forward, the NHS antimicrobial stewardship. And we see mention of the sustainable goals. If you just flip through these slides fairly quickly, Brian, I just literally want to show what a massive, massive deal this. I mean, you can see the sustainable goals up there. If we go on to the next one, we've got the National Institute of Health, keeping antibiotics working, the UK HSA, targeting programming GPs to learn about antimicrobial resistance. We've got the Royal Lifer PEDIC Hospital, the NIH, our antibiotic guardian. And then we can turn the UK HSA blue again. Three steps to take. Only take when prescribed. Well, you know what, in the United Kingdom, we can only get antibiotics if they're on prescription. So I don't know how they think we're taking them when we're not prescribed them. But anyway, moving on, we can see that we've got the World Health Organization, advertising antibiotic resistance, and West Yorkshire Health and Care Partnership. And then we go on again. So this one, thank you, Kenny, for sending me this tweet from the UK HSA, do go and read this blog. How science and snake bites is taking on superbugs. Thank you, Kenny, for that. But what's the alternative? So according to antibiotic research UK, we're looking at mRNA, of course, the mRNA platform, the one platform that we really should never, ever have used. And if we go on to medical press, we can see that they're also investigating mRNA antibiotics. And there's even more, let's go to science direct, who are talking about mRNA vaccine platforms to prevent bacterial infections. But what of now? What of today? What are the NHS saying today? Well, they're saying, watch out, folks. We've got a highly contagious superbug that's hitting the UK. And bingo, it's E. coli. We've talked so many times about E. coli. And here we go again. And this is causing apparently 65% of antibiotic resistance infections over the last five years. So, well, we need to look at the indicators. So I went to the Department of Health and Social Care, and I looked at the antimicrobial resistance local indicators which were produced by the UK HSA. And on the next slide, you can see that top of the boobs is CDIF, which is a bacteria. It affects the bowel mainly after antibiotics. And then we've got E. coli, which is also antibiotic resistance. And we've also got Klebsiella. And that's a bug that lives in the guts. But if it gets to the lungs, it causes huge problems. And these are all hospital-acquired infections. I have to highlight that, hospital-acquired. So if we're going to see hospitals closed in the future, you'll know why. And I've found this company, Glox Therapeutics. They've been given a massive one million pace grant to accelerate development of precision antibiotics. Wharton, pneumonia, E. coli, Klebsiella, high value, high risk, early phase drug discovery. If you want to go and look at their website, there's a screenshot of it here. Please go and have a look. They're huge. And the CEO, James Clark. He's got great history. GlaxoSmithKline, and enteroviotics. Every time the word entero is mentioned, please think in testines. So, lots going on on AMR. And there's going to be lots more going on in AMR as well. Tabi, thank you very much for that. Now, I'm going to say to the audience, so I'm going to do a very short comment, really, on the Russian ICBM launch in Ukraine. A lot of people talking about it. But what I also want to emphasize is why many people are becoming very fearful of the situation and what seems to be a creep towards World War III. We at UK column are going to say, pay attention to the basics, what's happening around the pharmaceutical industry and attacks on our health. And also think about our children because the government grooming an attacks on our children and our children mind's still happening. Let's just pop that one back on screen. This is the mail with a very emotive, if somewhat strange headline page, lots of videos of rockets going off, put in up the stakes moment, nuclear cable, Russian long-range missile strikes Ukraine. But the key thing about this attack is that, of course, Ukraine did not carry out the attack of the long-range missiles on Russian soil. That was done by using NATO expertise on the ground, whether it was US or UK, possibly German. So we are fully involved in this war now attacking Russian sovereign soil. And what did the Russians do? They demonstrated another missile system to which or against which the West simply has no defense. This is a little bit of film footage that's been circulated not only on social media, but also appearing in the daily mail. And although it happens very quickly, you will see an extraordinary site of warheads coming down through the cloud cover. And they're actually coming down in groups of six. And this is the result of a long-range missile attack, ICBM attack by the Russians. And the Russians are demonstrating once again that they have technology. The West has no defense against this. Now, if we look at how the mail dealt with this, they went to this lady, Dr. Ruth Diamond, for comment. She's from King's College London. She said this strike has no obvious military value. They could achieve the same objectives without sacrificing an ICBM or advanced missile. She went on to say it looks very much as if it's signaling to the West what Russia could do if it chose to launch a nuclear-armed missile. But actually, it's a sign of weakness. Just think of what this woman is actually saying. I'm going to say unbelievably immature because Russia is absolutely demonstrating what it's capable of with weapons systems against which the West has no defense. She goes on, the Russian government knows what would happen if they did attempt to use any kind of nuclear weapon. So they have to resort to bluffing. Well, the Russians have steadily shown that they're not bluffing, excuse me, they are not bluffing about anything to do with the Ukraine war. And of course, as the advances on the battlefield continue, they are demonstrating their winning this war, which they're fighting not just against Ukraine, but against NATO itself. So this lady is truly unbelievable, but if you go back in time, and this is a report she did on YouTube, watched by a few hundred people in February 2022. She was busy saying that NATO, rather than being weakened, is showing much more coherence. Well, if we think about what we're seeing around NATO in 2024, we're seeing absolute chaos and breakdown. So what is the expertise of the woman that's chosen to comment on this? Well, here she is, Dr Ruth Diamond, senior lecturer in post-Soviet security. And if we get into a background, she completed a PhD in government and an MA in international relations. Before this, she worked in the treasury. So she was into financial institutions. She's got a degree in English language and literature and an MA in English and European Renaissance drama. I'm going to say, in my opinion, simply not credible. Where are the senior military people in UK to comment on what is happening? They seem to be absent. But I'll just bring this gentleman on screen. This is Pedro Israel-Water. He's a former CIA agent who I interviewed yesterday. One of the points that he's making, as are other retired CIA operatives, is that the expertise has gone out of the intelligence services to the extent they can't function properly. If that's happening with CIA, our own Alex Tonson has said this about security within GCHQ, and also security services in UK. We do not have the people to comment coherently and properly on overseas matters, particularly what's happening in Ukraine with the Russians. So I'll leave people to reflect on that, but clearly the daily mail at least cannot find a suitable expert to comment. Debbie, let's bring you back in and we'll get back onto the subject, the key subject for today's news, which is the MHRA, what it's up to. Thank you, Brian. Yes. Well, of course, the MHRA, they're celebrating the 60th anniversary of the yellow card, and it was the board meeting, and you know how much I do love an MHRA board meeting. So here we are, the MHRA board meeting held in public Tuesday, the 19th of November 2024. However, when I logged on to the Zoom link for the meeting, I found myself in the MHRA, November board meeting held in pubic. Yes, I really did say that. It was held in pubic and it's very sad, isn't it? And embarrassing when the MHRA can't even spell. So how much trust do we have in them in public safety? Well, I've taken the unusual step actually of showing you what Dame Dune said at the board meeting yesterday. We're going to split this into two halves, this video. The first half, I want you to take note of what she says about antimicrobial resistance. Also, the microbiome, which we've talked about, vaccines, and well, just have a listen. Dame Dune Rain, MHRA board meeting. Thank you, Graham, and as colleagues will have seen, it's quite a full report, it's been a very busy time, and I think it fully demonstrates the breadth of the agency's deliverables. As we're here at the science campus today, I think it's quite nice to focus, I think, on the immense effort for antimicrobial resistance, antimicrobial resistance week is this week, and globally, forces are aligning. But here at the science campus, we have some real cutting-edge work on bacteria phage, and also on the microbiome. And none of that, of course, detracts from the role on vaccines. So let's, I think, really pay a bit of tribute to the huge efforts that Nicola is leading here in terms of antimicrobial resistance. But that, as I say, is not to neglect what is happening on vaccines as we prepare, ever prepare for the coming flu in the coming year. In terms of access to healthcare products, the earlier announcement of a refreshed, innovative licensing and access pathway has been very much welcomed, particularly the fact that the NHS is fully signed up to be on board, with a narrower focus on products that are truly transformative. And another important development has been related to the work on mRNA platform technology, not just for cancer vaccines, but for personalized medicines and guidance that will be out there for public consultation quite soon. So the efforts to drive forward innovation really are moving ahead quite strongly. - So there you have the warning that antimicrobial resistance is going to be big on the agenda. And mRNA is going to figure in pretty much everything moving forward. Now, in the second part of her presentation, her report, of course, the injections, the COVID-19 vaccine are safe and effective, right? But are all medicines safe, Dame Dune? I don't think they are. And Dame Dune here is going to put out a very serious warning to members of the public with regards to a GOVI. She's also going to be talking about the very serious side effects and transformation and surveillance. But please note, there's not one word about the vaccine injured or the bereaved. Have a listen to the second half of Dame Dune reign. Our Return to Green programme, on the other hand, to make sure that performance is optimised, has reached an important milestone with the elimination of the original backlog of established medicines applications. And that's something I think the staff have to be wrongly commended for. Jobs not done, though, and Return to Green remains a top priority for this year's business plan. Perhaps I'm just then turned to our safety work and the immense interest, almost daily interest in weight loss jobs. We recently issued a communication that reminded the public that all medicines have risks and that there is rare, but serious side effects associated with GOVI and a Zen pick. And to report these, so important that we know about this. And if anyone turns up off-label use, we can also helpfully focus on that too. The new medical devices, post-market surveillance legislation, was laid in October. And that will really help to strengthen our surveillance systems, particularly following the Cumberledge report. So those are just some highlights. But I'd finish, really, chair by saying how much this all is testament to the enormous efforts of staff, not just to drive forward innovation and access, but to protect the public every day of every week. - Do you feel protected every day of every week by Dame June Rain? I'm afraid I don't. But of course, we know that the MHRA have wanted to be top-dog. They want to be the global regulator. They've been hinting about it for a long time. And we'll take us off to the MHRA's new international recognition procedure. So they're very much there on the world stage, looking at personalised medicine, in particular. Now, the MHRA have got this secret dream of being the global regulator. And during the board meeting, Raj Long, who we've spoken about many times before, who has no qualifications, who's of the stable of Bill and Melinda Gates, she's also written the dementia guidance for the Department of Health. And she's also sitting on the UK HSA board. Just please remember, she has no qualifications. Anyway, just out of the blue, she dropped this in at the MHRA board meeting. June, you've been too coy. Have a look. Raj, did you want to say something? - Thank you. Totally unrelated to any of the topics on the agenda. As June mentioned, she attended the Iqmera meeting last week in Brazil. So for those of you who are not familiar, Iqmera is like the world stage for global regulators. They all come together and they agree to do. June's been very coy about this, but I think it's important to recognise that she got the Iqmera award this year for outstanding contributions to Iqmera. This is a fantastic echolade, not just to June, but to the whole team, in terms of how we are seen globally. I know we very often at the board level look at the areas of challenges and figure out how we need to work, but I thought it was really appropriate to take a couple of minutes to recognise the international recognition that this agency's had through June and her team's leadership. So I would like to just say, well done June, and congratulations to all of you, because this is not just, you know, it's a whole agency. And congratulations, thank you very much. - And thank you Rasso. Congratulations on behalf of the board and the characteristically hadn't told us. - Well, I would like to stress an in thanking Raj for your really kind words that this reflects that the agency has an international role. And it's something we should use so, well, effectively and with pride that the excellence of the work that we do right across the basic science, regulatory innovation and real world evidence that is contextualising all our decisions, that we use that for the international best efforts for patients and the public. So I was very proud, but as I say, it reflects everyone. And that's the absolute truth. - So, do we send well done? And congratulations to you, and I don't think so. However, thank you Raj long for highlighting it, because I hadn't actually heard of it. So who are the international coalition of medicines, regulatory authorities? But who are they actually? Well, who they say they are is an informal group of leaders of all the regulatory bodies who collaborate to provide strategic directions for enhanced common challenges like COVID. And their mission is to safeguard public health by facilitating strategic leadership. So let's look at the members because it's an interesting mix of members we've got here. So the members are including China. We've got the European Union, India, of course, who are one of the world's largest pharmaceutical manufacturers. And we've got the UK MHRA at the bottom. And if you look at the associate members, it gets even more interesting. You have Israel, who of course we all know, we have a very strong tie in many areas, but particularly pharmaceutical. Russia are there, Saudi, Ukraine. And of course, we've got the WHO observing. So who are ICMARA led by? Well, they're led by a cook. Now, she started in November 2020. So if she was doing a four-year term, she would be ending that roundabout now. I wonder who might be taking over. I wonder if there's anybody qualified that could take over ICMA. I don't know. But she's also, if we could just go back to that ICMA cook slide for a second, thank you. I just want to highlight that down at the bottom there, the previous ICMA chairs, you'll see the In Hudson, who used to be prior to June Rain, the CEO of the MHRA, who then went to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and who chaired ICMARA. So Will Dame June Rain be making an appearance at ICMA? I don't know, but she's got a special award. So who knows? Now, what are they actually talking about most? Well, surprise, surprise or not, antimicrobial resistance. And they're recognizing the World AMR Awareness Week. And if we go on, they say that 8.2 million deaths could be associated with resistant bacteria by 2050. They also go on to say that we mustn't misuse antibiotics. And they mention in particular, you can see there one health, which we've talked about so many times. And then in the next slide, they also go on to say that global leaders can offer effective incentives. New antibiotics, they're going to incentivize people to make new antibiotics, and they're going to reward the developers. And their final message was act now. But what's act now against this silent pandemic? Our health depends on it. But just to finish this little segment, one thing in the MHRA board meeting that I did pick up, and there was tons of it, and we'll talk about much more of it coming up. But they talked about engineering biology, and I didn't know that there was such a subject. However, there is. And the UK government are entrenched in it. So here you go. Gov.uk, National Vision for Engineering Biology. This was Andrew Griffith, who was at the time the Minister of State Science Research and Innovation. And if we look one slide further, this is my final slide for this segment, you can see that engineering biology is basically artificial intelligence robotics, DNA engineering, mRNA, where they create organisms to yield therapies through food, chemicals, and fuel. So engineering biology, a big agenda, watch this space. - Okay, thank you very much, Debbie. And I'll just say once again to the audience, while people are concentrating on problems in the Middle East, in Ukraine, all of this agenda, and of course, climate change being rammed through. For audience likes what we're doing, the likes UK column news, then please support us financially. You can do this by making a donation, or of course, take out a monthly membership, an annual membership, or a lifetime membership, or you can make a purchase in the shop. And we always highlight that health products are provided by Clive DeKalb. We earn a little bit of commission on those, but we do need your financial support to keep running the UK column news. But of course, what we put out, we encourage people to share. And we share information on a number of platforms. If you're a signed up member, then you're able to comment and get involved in what we're pushing out, but spreading the word very, very important. Now, just to highlight that my interview from Tuesday, excuse me, it's now, sorry, a big bond from yesterday. I think this one went out. It's now up on the UK column website. I was talking to Stephen Sizer on the subject of Christian Zionism, its origins, goals and influence. It was a very enjoyable interview, very, very well-read man. And he's raising some very interesting points on the subject to Christian Zionism. So if you haven't seen that, get on to the UK column website and have a look. We've also got here an advert for the concerned citizens advisory assembly. This is formerly seven concerned citizens of Devon and Cornwall. And they've started an initiative to gain a consensus of concerned citizens in all areas of the UK and put councils on notice. They already have four councils on notice. And they're organizing a series of Zoom calls where they invite members of the public to join. They've done two so far with success. And in the Zoom, they give a presentation about the lack of scrutiny, risk assessment and due diligence with regard to food security within net zero climate emergency policies in our town and city councils. And then they ask them simple yes or no questions in the chat. And the aim is to have multiple Zooms with many people to gain numbers to collect the data of those who are deeply concerned about food security and cost inefficiency of net zero. The next Zooms are on the 25th, 27th of November at 7 p.m. And Sandy Adams, who's done a huge amount of work is one of the people behind that. Now, the other one we've got, I think is yours. Debbie, farming and food security, is that correct? - Indeed. This is down to be held in true. It's a farmer's movement, Cornwall, so it's farmers' protests, farming and food security, such stayed 23rd of November in Truro. All the details are there. And I'm very much hoping to be down there. So if you happen to be near Truro or willing to go to Truro, see you there. - Okay, thank you very much. Now, I've got quite a lot of information in this segment, but I'm gonna go pretty quickly because we want to have time available in the news for the key thing, which is Cheryl Granger's report on the MHRA. But I have been taken over a couple of weeks now by the subject of child abuse. We've seen reports that the Archbishop of Canterbury standing down. But this report was sent to me by several people. Let's have a look at it. The BBC here reporting children in need chair resigns over grants to scandal hit LGBT charity. So in the article itself, it talked about this, Rosie Millard, objected to a £466,000 grant being given by BBC children in need to LGBT Scotland, a charity which supposedly supports younger and transgender people. And the key point is a gentleman called James Renney had been chief executive of the Scottish organisation. And he was also an SMP advisor, but he was jailed in 2009 after being revealed as a member of a paedophile ring. And Renney, let's see the detail of this. Renney was given a life sentence for sexually assaulting a three month old child and for conspiring to get access to children in order to abuse them. And he was a bigger pardon. He was ordered to serve a sentence which was then subsequently reduced. If we go on here, it's been reported in this article that another man who contributed to school's guidance, think about that, put together by LGBTU Scotland, was convicted this year of sharing in decent images of children, including some newborn babies. And in 2022, two men said they were groomed at the Scottish LGBT organisation at the time, Renney was chief executive in response that organisation suspended a staff member and referred itself to the police. Now, some of the comments by the chair who stood down, she criticised BBC children indeed for what she said was a lack of due diligence. She accused the chief executive, Simon Andribus, of failing to respond with the necessary level of seriousness and hesitating to take action. Remember, this is in regard of child protection, so child safety issues. And she alleged that he Andribus eventually cut funding to the charity, the Scottish charity, only because fear of negative publicity. This is the gentleman in the limelight at the moment, but extraordinary comments here from the chief executive, the Scottish LGBT youth charity. She said that Millard's resignation letter demonstrates the ideologically driven nature of her attacks on our organisation. So little sympathy for children there or even babies. She went on to say that they're pleased to see confirmation that children in needs investigations into the work of LGBTU Scotland found nothing to report. And she went on time and time again, those with anti-inclusivity motives point to historic allegations in attempts to destroy our reputation. Allegations have been investigated and cleared by police Scotland and proven to have no link to our work. That'll be the same, Scott, police Scotland, that have failed in so many other child abuse inquiries. Now, we want to go back here to reports from UK column in 2015, when we were certainly warning about James Renney, but also pointing out that he was involved with the political charity Common Purpose. We also pointed out that another sadistic abuser was in, this is Matthew Byrne, he was also involved with Common Purpose. I believe he had children's images as well as being responsible for vicious attacks on prostitutes. But what we were astonished was to see that this man with his abuse background and his Common Purpose links had at an earlier stage been in direct contact with the then Prime Minister Cameron, and as you can see in the photograph, Mr. Hessel time also present. Now, I'm sure that time the photograph was taken, they had no idea of Matthew Byrne's real objectives in life. But what we did point out was that Common Purpose, which was organizing these training courses, including young teenagers, took no overt action to protect children by instigating some form of vetting process into the Common Purpose trainers. And at the time, it was Sir David Bell, who was the then Common Purpose trustee. He, of course, was getting accolades at the time for his work with core and children's charity. A lot of praise, they were honored and thrilled to have him on board, but he didn't appear to the U.K. Colin at least to be taking the necessary action to protect children from within the Common Purpose training system. This was an image we flagged up in 2015 from Quorum. We found this image deeply disturbing. It's the little girl and the expression on her face and the fact that as with a NHS video, we've just seen she's been using to advertise legal information, but we felt so uncomfortable about it. We asked our audience to respond as to whether they also thought this was an inappropriate image of a very young girl. Remember that at the time, Common Purpose Charter was saying that in every society, there's an invisible space between the individual and the state, and that Common Purpose's aim is to fill this space with as many people as possible. I will say, unvetted people. And their ethos was to create a common educational experience within and across many countries, and they then claimed, unbelievably, that Common Purpose remained independent and non-aligned. This was backed up by the fact that Julia Middleton, the then chief executive in her book, said, "I know that in Downing Street, "they're always wondering whether people have sufficient guile "to be brought into a coalition. "The government is building." Well, that was Common Purpose, but of course they were also at work inside the BBC. Here's a UK column, Freedom of Information Request, which the response to which produced statistics that the BBC had spent 158,000 over seven years on Common Purpose Training. And on top of that, the BBC ran a BBC Radio 5 live programme to defend Common Purpose against accusations of being a secret society, or indeed involved in a political sense. Now, this is the irony because during that period, Chair of Trustees of Common Purpose was Bishop Tim Stevens. He got very hot under the collar because people had been criticising Common Purpose, not least for their links into censorship of the press. And here he says British newspapers have in the past linked Common Purpose in the UK to the issues surrounding press regulation. Says that a high-profile debate took place. But any link between Common Purpose and Lord Levison's inquiry was entirely misguided because Common Purpose has had no involvement whatsoever in the debate or any campaigns for great regulation of the press. But he went on to say it was just confusion because Sir David Bell, Common Purpose Chairman and Julia Middleton, the CEO of Common Purpose Charitable Trust just happened to both be part of setting up an independent charity called the Media Standards Trust in 2006. And of course, that rolled into the Levison inquiry. And what we were seeing was blatant attempts to control the press. Let's remind ourselves that in the last few days, the Archbishop of Canterbury himself has had to resign. And the review found that Justin Welby could and should have reported the abuser, John Smith's abuse of boys and young men to police in 2013. So a very fast walk through that particular subject. But my goodness, it's full of people failing in their duties, turning a blind eye, or possibly involved in delivering, deliberate covering up of the abuse of children. Debbie, let's bring you back on. I'm watching the clock because we should have Cheryl joining us any minute now. So over to you. Well, thank you, Brian. Well, we certainly will have Cheryl joining us. And I know she's waiting in the wings ready. But before I throw across to Cheryl, we have got some videos that we will show in extra of some more of the MHRA board meeting. So please, if you're a member, please stay tuned for extra. It's going to be super interesting, I can promise you. But before I've introduced Cheryl, it's all changed at the MHRA. We've been waiting for Graham Cook to step down as interim chair. And now he can. Because all of a sudden, it's announced that we have a new chair of the MHRA board meeting. And this is Anthony Hardin and Hardin. Hardin, I'm sorry. He is a GP. He's also a professor at Primary Care, Oxford, until the end of December. If you go to the next slide, you can see a little bit more about him. And Debbie, I'm just going to come in because we have got Cheryl with us now. So I think we'll welcome her to the UK column. Welcome, Cheryl. Thank you for giving up time to join us today. And tell us what has been happening around the MHRA. I know that in the background, you've done a fantastic amount of work to tackle this audience, to tackle the MHRA and to bring to the audience the real facts about what they have and have not done. What have you got for us today? Hello, everybody. Thanks for helping me on, Brian. I can tell you about my first-tier appeal that I've been doing, first-tier tribunal, as a result of a feeding of information I sent off in April 23. I basically, through Debbie, I'd heard Dan June Rain talk at the Orwells, a therapeutics toxicology center, and she was talking about how they were measuring all the reactions to the vaccines. And she mentioned, in particular, the yellow card monitor and how this was active surveillance. Now, excited she was, 'cause within that, they had 2,000 pregnant women. It's what they stated at that time. And that they would be able to have a denominator for any figures that they worked out about any of the adverse drug reactions. So, I took a bit of a time, 'cause it took me to be able to have seen this and write off my feeding information. And I basically wrote off explaining that I'd seen June Rain talk about this yellow card vaccine monitor. And I asked a lot of questions. There were nine questions I asked about the pregnant. Things like, how were the pregnant women monitored? How often did they report? And how long were they being followed for? When were they vaccinated in which trimester? What was the percentage of the 2,000? I kept referring to 2,000 because that's what she'd said. And that's what I thought was in the 2,000 pregnancies, experiencing things like miscarriages, still the spontaneous abortions, et cetera. So, I asked nine questions within my freedom of information. And then on the 19th of July 23, I got a reply and the MHARA refused. They cited Section 22, which is to withhold the information because they intended to have it peer reviewed and published. But in the meantime, they actually sent me an interim report. So, the interim report was in July 2021. It was a presentation that they'd done to the PEG, which is the pharmacovigilance expert advisory group, who's reading it, by the way, is to assess any risks that are coming through and then make people aware of it. So, they just sent the interim report. I asked Professor Fenton to actually analyse it for me. And he very kindly did, and he was horrified because the average percentage of adverse drug reactions was about 41% of pregnant women in the review, who actually had at least one adverse drug reaction. And it varied, obviously, between the vaccines, with AstraZeneca, could be about 60%. So, it was quite telling that this information had not been released. This is what they were supposed to be surveying the reactions to the vaccines on. And if you read things that have come forward since they had the yellow card details to things that they've seen in the yellow card vaccine monitor to come up with the ever-repeated phrase that these vaccines are still self-infected. So, the MHRA maintained its original position when I then asked for an internal review, which is the process you have to go through and you keep on into wait 20 days for this to happen. And then in November 2023, I complained to the Information Commissioner's Office, that's what you're supposed to do. And, of course, the ICO came back to me and upheld the decision. So then I actually think I said something on UK column and then I've got Mike's at home because he said you've got to appeal. So that's what I did. And I didn't realise it was such a complex thing to do. I don't know whether I'll live to regret it, but at the end of the day, I was determined to find the information out about pregnancy. Because, of course, that's one of the MHRA's major remits. So the MHRA's developed out of committees that have come along since the Medicines Act '68, which came into being because of the lidamide, the lidamide disaster. And therefore the MHRA, it says, and they state themselves. We keep watch over medicines and devices and take necessary action to protect the public, probably, if there's a problem. So they are not supposed to allow anything to be used in pregnancy unless it is being proven by clinical trials to actually show that it is safe. So I then found out that the ICO were going to uphold the decision, and then I appealed. So that was the first tier tribunal. You have to fill in a load of forms, which I did. And it asked you at the bottom, whether you wanted to be just a written report that you get, a written conclusion, or whether you wanted a video tribunal. And I decided, because of the advice I was being given, to go for it to be a video appearance, obviously, on the internet. So I basically was the only one of the three of us, because by the 29th of May, my appeal wasn't just with the ICO. We then had the ICO, asked the MHRA if they wanted to join in, and they did. So in May 24, the MHRA became the second respondent. So it's now me appealing against both of the parties. And they decided that we were going to go to the tribunal on the 19th of September. But they didn't give us enough notice, which I didn't realise, but the MHRA objected. And it all went through a whole load of emails. And then the judge, who I've now met, Judge Wilkins, she decided that that 19th of September could become a directions hearing, which panicked me, 'cause I've got a clue what that was, but I went along on video and we talked to each other. There was the barrister, not the one that's going to be at the tribunal, but the standing for the MHRA's barrister was there, the judge and myself. And it was to try and find a date when we could all get together and have this hearing. So it was decided that we'd suggest some dates, which we did, it's a gauges to get it confirmed because it's going to be the third of December. So that's when the final hearing is going to be. The barrister at that time told me that the witness that they wanted to call was Dame June Rain, but it doesn't seem that that's going to happen now as I've got nearer to the time. So the whole thing was a bit of a mess because I was supposed to have everything in, there's been a few changes, but I was supposed to have everything in, all evidence, all witness statements by the 8th of November, which is what the other side had to do as well. Everybody had to have everything by the 8th of November. On the 6th of November, I got an email from the MHRA to say, we're going to publish. So on the 6th, they actually warned us that they were going to go to a preprint server and that would take two to four days. Well, it didn't, it took a week before they notified me that it was up online and that I could access it. So it took to the 13th of November. They'd wanted to postpone this presentation of witness statements and evidence until the 15th of November but I'd actually pushed that out to the 21st because I thought I'd need some time to actually analyse what they'd sent through. So that brought in a series of emails to keep asking me to withdraw. So I had four emails at different times over those few days to ask me to withdraw. First of all, we now publish in, so will you withdraw? Then I obviously went back and said, well, I've got to see that it actually exists. And then when they told me that it was being published or had been published, they again wanted me to withdraw. And then I said, no, because obviously I wanted to look through it, they asked me one email whether I wanted them to point out to me where the answers were to my questions as if I wasn't capable of looking that up from the detail that they'd sent. And I didn't answer that 'cause I was a bit offended by that. And they came back to me and said that eventually, would I withdraw? And I said, no, so they then sent me the list of answers to my questions referenced to what they'd sent through. They decided to do that without me saying I wanted it. And so it's been this back and forth, back and forth, but they constantly wanted me to withdraw because they thought they provided me with everything that I'd asked for. So when the information came through, I obviously needed some help on it. So I went back to Professor Benton and he used his colleagues to very kindly have a look through the information. And so I put together a review of that information. And the overriding sense is that it hasn't actually answered my question because of how they've analyzed the data. So we still want the raw data to be able to analyze it properly and give answers to the questions that have asked. Having said that, they'd already said in a thing that was called gist of the withheld material is what they sent through to me at one point. And that came to the conclusion point four. The second respondent takes the view of the tribunal can make the decision without looking at the raw data. So they weren't providing the raw data. It says the MHRA have provided in its place the spreadsheet of yellow card vaccine monitor data specification. This is the specification provided for the analysis which will inform the publication. It only contains the data variables which will be analyzed and does not reflect all the data variables captured within the YCBM. We didn't really know what that meant. But it didn't seem to be proud in us with what we wanted. - Cheryl, thank you very much for that. That was your usual calm, meticulous report. But I've got to say to the audience that although you're delivering this in such a calm, measured way, the amount of work that's gone into this is truly phenomenal. You have taken on the MHRA initially single-handedly. You've had some expert help come in alongside you, which has been really excellent. But the matter is that the agency responsible for pharmaceutical safety in the UK was not providing data to the public, showing the true risks as a result of the vaccine policy, particularly in relation to pregnant women. I'm stunned at that statistic, which you've just released to us, which is problems of between 40 and 60%, with pregnant women, that's truly incredible. But you've had to work to force this to a tribunal level in order to get the MHRA to actually give the proper data as to what it was doing and what it's found out with respect to risks to the public. Tribunal, you've said on the 3rd of December, this is absolutely astonishing that I've got to say one woman has been able to work and force this vast public body to come into a tribunal to explain what they've been doing. So I don't, if you'd like to respond to that, but I think your work is utterly incredible. Well, I suppose I didn't, I was going to end up here, did I? And you keep going forward. It's one level after another level after another level, but you go through a process. And, I mean, I knew what was happening with pregnancy. I knew what was happening from the fires in the dinner documents analysis, which you know, from the situation room, I've been involved. We tried to dumb down in a way and put into simple reports. But they had, and I'll read this because I'll get it wrong, 274 cases who become pregnant when they've been told not to during the Pfizer study. Those 274, well, everybody was told, every male was told to use two forms of contraceptive and females were told not to get pregnant, but as these things go, 274 became pregnant. And the outcomes of 270 pregnancies, they've only got 32, they were followed. The others have just disappeared. They haven't followed those up. And in those 32, we had 23 spontaneous abortions and five of them had out compending as a description and premature birth and neonatal death and spontaneous abortion with interuterine death. There were two each of those and spontaneous abortion with neonatal death and normal outcome, it was one of those. So there were only data of those 274 cases for 29 births and 28 of the 29 died. Which might explain why they lost the rest. And obviously, you know, if you know things like that in the information that was given to the MHRA, if they'd read it thoroughly, they would have seen that. And that's a warning to actually not let this be used in pregnancy. - Cheryl, thank you very much. You're joining us for extra in a few minutes and we're gonna be discussing this a lot more, but we're gonna say to the UK column news audience today, there you have it. Cheryl Granger with assistance from Professor Fenton and others has forced the MHRA into a tribunal over data on damage to pregnant women at least. That's just the tip of the iceberg. This is phenomenal work and it's so important that this now gets out to the wider public, that this risk exists and this authority has been failing in the way it has. I think what we're looking at is malfeasance in public office, that's my personal opinion. I don't know whether I'm right, but that's what comes into my head. Debbie, just very quickly, ask you to comment. We're a little bit over for time on the news, but just to finish off some comment for our news audience, please. - Well, I just have to say, you know, I have watched Cheryl for years now working so hard and you're absolutely right, Brian. This is groundbreaking and, you know, the very fact that the MHRA are continually asking Cheryl to withdraw is testament to the work and for so long, she was completely unsupported and you were completely right when you said it, you know, single-handedly, single-handling. This is what I want to get over to our viewers in that there is so much going on behind the scenes. There are so many amazing people out there doing amazing work, none more so than our angel in human form, Cheryl Granger, because honestly, I have seen her loose sleep. I have seen the bundles of papers. I've seen what she's had to read and what the MHRA have never bothered to read. Seriously, it's completely outstanding and there will be much more about this in extra and our grateful thanks from all of us, from humanity and for every single pregnant women or every woman who's thinking of becoming pregnant or new dads, please take notice. This is very, very serious. - Debbie, thank you very much. Cheryl, thank you very much. We must end there so much to talk about in the news these days. It's very difficult to cover it all, but health issues have got to be absolutely top of the priority if we're not healthy. We can't fight, we can't look after our families. So health is the key issue with pernicious organizations like the MHRA failing in their duty. It's beholden on all of us at the UK column and our audience out there today to stand up to do something about this. We'll end there if you're a member of UK column. Join us for extra in a few moments and we'll dive deeper, as they say, into the subject of the MHRA and that tribunal. But remember, you heard it on UK column. Thanks for joining us. Bye-bye. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) [MUSIC PLAYING]