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Field Generals -Ep 263 The Fumblerooski Podcast
The PR battle continues between craft and Belichick with reports that craft allegedly warned Falcons owner Arthur Blank to not hire Bill Belichick. So some crazy stuff going on in New England still. And along with that, we'll go over the quarterback prospects you are listening to the Fumble Ruzik Podcast and may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. So one's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. You are listening to the Fumble Ruzik Podcast by a power radiating radio and secret weapon consulting, Chris Kostich alongside me, the draft guy, CJ Madiero, good evening and welcome. And we're sorry for postponing to tonight, Wednesday, April 17th, as we are now eight days away from the NFL draft. As coming up later, we'll go over our quarterback prospects as we have all the other possessions in the recent weeks. The first news out of New England and as New England fans, we thought that we were getting away from the drama, but it just keeps on coming. And it really started from the beginning of last season. You knew that tensions were a little bit high. And then the reports came out that during the Germany week between the Patriots and the Colts that that week was really going to decide if Bell check or it was going to decide Bell check's fate. And then among other things, more and more rumors came out, especially regarding outside of Bell check and crafts that ended up tying in to Rod Mayo, the now head coach of the New England Patriots. And for how well the last press conference that Bill Bell check had as a Patriot, how well it actually seemed like it went. It just seems like it was all for show as new reports have come out that Robert Kraft allegedly warned Falcons owner Arthur Blank to not hire Bill Bell check as to not trust him and reasons being obviously. I mean, if you were to watch the Patriots dynasty documentary, there are a lot of reasons why Kraft would potentially not trust Bell check or to say that to Art Blank. Such as they're in Hernandez situation, spy gate, hell, even deflate gate. If I'm missing anything else, you can throw it out there. But those are probably three that come to mind pretty quickly for a lot of people. But well, CJ, you and I were discussing this earlier. This also comes from a low level ESPN writer that is not is very familiar with writing books and articles about negative things about the Patriots. Now, of course, this leak, as it were, is coming from Seth Wicker the sham. And honestly, if it came from like Ian Rappaport or Adam Schefter or anyone else, I would be like, Oh crap, there's merit to this. But with everybody, it's coming from Seth Wicker sham totally has no hit in the agenda. He is a fair and balanced reporter and totally just for some reason doesn't hate New England. I'm kidding. He does all those things. And for me as a sports fan, all of his credibility went out the window when he wrote this book it was probably better to be feared inside the Patriots dynasty, where all of his information was to put it nicely unverifiable. And some of his quotes from Belichick, I myself call into question, especially when Bill said that's funny. I've never met him. So I don't know why ESPN hasn't kicked this blatant liar to the curb, but whatever. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why because it generates clicks. That's why. Yeah, it's fair. Also, by the way, our podcast Instagram page is more followers than his Instagram page does. So does it actually what you will know? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's serious. That's awesome. It's off topic. But like, hold on, I'm going to go to this. All right, Seth Wicker sham, right has 2,550 Instagram followers, those sports reporter and the Fungarooski podcast has just under 10k at 9,949. Be sure to hit that follow button. We would like to get to 10k. Thank you very much. But regardless of the fact, yeah, it's if we're even if regardless of this is a true article or not, which it most likely is not a true article from what we've seen in the past. More craft has really lost the PR war. If we're going to call this a PR war, he has ultimately just lost it by a landslide to say the least like we're talking Nixon winning 49 out of 50 states in the 72 or 70 election or whatever the hell he won that election type of thing. It couldn't be more one sided that people are starting to really turn on Robert crafts, at least in the public sphere or the public eye and whatnot. And it really generated from the Patriots documentary and look where we are now. It's now gone completely south for him. Like I said, regardless of how true this article is, it's just Robert craft is not in a very good light of public eye right now. Yeah, it's just the thing though with craft is I don't notice as a pet fan, I'm just tired of the drama. Like every week, there's just new drama that's pouring out. It's like we're becoming the Steelers basically with how much toxicity there is now and I'm hoping that now it's over but I will actually be over no, at least one of them does. And I just I don't know. So I don't get so set the wicker sham is like a notorious bill ballot check hater, right? That's why he wrote his hit piece, you know, better to be feared. So now why is he now why is he going after craft because he made it very clear that it was all bills fall and craft was innocent and now and now he's doing his hit piece on craft. So it's like, so does he just hate the Patriots or like, I don't get it. Like like what's his deal? It's a little bit of everything, honestly, I honestly don't know. I think that it definitely hit bill check leaving definitely helps this dude's case in his Patriots hate. I mean, it is a little weird that he went from being a bell check hater to now being a bell check sympathizer. Yeah. And it's kind of like he's riding the wave of what everyone else is writing, you know, you know, I hear you the thing is, though, this is this mostly goes for wicker sham. This happens a lot with some of these lower level, like bottom rungs, sports reporters. I am so thick and tired of saying an anonymous source told me, and look, I know it's journalism. I know people can request her made anonymous, but it's death wicker sham. I went back and I looked at his body of work. All of his big breaking stories, you know, like this rely a lot on anonymous sources, don't they? And I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying that you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. If you cannot name your source, I'm just going to assume you're lying. There's an anonymous source told me, I'm like, yeah, no, I'm going to need a name. And in fact, I don't and just disgust me how often wicker the sham is allowed to get away with this. In fact, to any of our listeners at home, I would say start hitting them up on social media, like start sending them emails, obviously, don't do anything stupid. Don't threaten. Don't do that. Just be like, hey, buddy, would it kill you just like I'm not, I am not suggesting that. Don't do it. Obviously. But I'm just saying, ask them questions, start asking questions, just saying, Hey, would it kill you to perhaps, I don't know, cite your sources? The thing that we're talking when we're in middle school, basically, like, can you maybe tell us we're getting this information? Because if you keep pulling the anonymous source trope, I'm just going to assume you're lying. Especially from that one from 2018 from around 2018, where it was, what was it, it was like multiple unnamed patriots staffers or something like that. And it's like, really? Yeah. I don't know who they are. And I just think that we, the people, we, the football fans are owed an explanation. And I think that the best way to confront this is to have an open dialogue. Like just like I said, if you go find his email, like, DM him, like I said, don't do anything stupid. Like, don't do not. I cannot stress enough. Don't do that. Just like ask them stuff. Be like, Hey, where are you getting your information? Hey, why are you saying this? Like, let's just have an open discussion. Like I said, he has nothing to fear if he has nothing to hide. Like if he is truly talking to anonymous people, not just making this up, then he should have no problem saying, all right, my source is this. And that's, that's going to be the sad thing though, is, you know, it's the journalist's take integrity and whatnot. And we'll never know any, anything about these sources. But one thing's for certain is that you already have Bill Bell check saying he doesn't even know who the hell this guy is and has never had a conversation with this guy. So if that tells you anything, then that gives you an idea of who this guy is. Yeah. And even though as a Pat's fan, I hope it's not true, right? I mean, there's a small part of me that just for Wickersham's sake, I hope he's telling the truth because if you're willing to lie, just like smear a teen that you blatantly don't like just for clicks, then I don't know what to tell you. Now, I like it's again, I'm not, I did not say he is. I'm just saying that his body of work, especially that book he wrote in the past is very sketchy. And I mean, no one reputable believes it's true. I mean, no one's like, Oh, look at his hit new book. It's like, yeah, no, no, like I've never seen or I myself had ever seen anybody like go around and just say, Oh, yeah, this is some good stuff. This is peak journalism. It is. Yeah. I mean, like nobody's that I know has said that. So I'm not obviously saying that he's wrong, but given his track record of, I'm not going to say slander, but yeah, kind of slander, I wouldn't exactly trust him. Once again, I'm not saying anything. I'm not making any accusations. I'm just saying if then, you know, yeah. So let's go away from this jackass reporter for a second and let's just go away from him all together because he's irrelevant. He's just irrelevant. But we at this point, we should just look at the bigger story itself because regardless if this is true or not, this is such a bad look for craps at this point because it's like yeah, if it's one thing if Arthur Blank goes to craps is like, is this worth it? Like, yeah, it's the greatest coach of all time. And it just makes it seem more and more like craft is trying to take all the credit or most of the credit at the very least for the dynasty and you can see. And that also goes back to the dynasty documentary where craft basically took, seemed like he was trying to take a lot of credit for the dynasty that happened for the last 20 years or for that 20 year span. So it, like I said, if we want to call this a PR war, craft has ultimately lost the PR war. Yeah, and I mean, you hope this isn't true, but there's just been some interesting stuff that we now know is like actually true, like, you know, the whole. And honestly, at the end of the day, I just think that there's no innocent signs in this, you know, I know because it is true that craft wants to, you know, he does want to take credit for this, right. And it's not even just that. It's that that docu series that the craft group may or may not have had a hand in making was an anti-bell check hit piece. And also what we know about Bill Belichick is yes, he did have an ego that could orbit the earth as a second move. Yes, he did try to trade Tom Brady out of spite. My point is like, there's no parties that were innocent. Actually, that's how to maybe Brady Brady was just kind of playing the game, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I mean, I don't know, this whole thing is just, I feel like all sides need a reset. And once again, just want quickly touch on Wicker Shama, I said, for his sake, I hope this is true. I mean, it would suck for New England if it's true, but like, if this actually is true, I should say it's true, right? Yeah. If it's true, then, oh God, then think about the ramifications, right? That would happen, right? No free agent is going to want to come here. No, it's just, I just really hope it's not true, but it is. Hell, hell even a coach probably won't even want to come here because they don't want to risk crafts going to other owners or GMs and being like, don't trust this guy. This guy did some bad stuff. Don't trust him. He did me wrong and like by not paying me back a dollar or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, once again, I truly believe that there are just no winners in this situation. There's really not and there's no party that's completely innocent. So. And it's truth be told though, regardless of what we said about Wicker Shama, I wouldn't be shocked if this was actually true, but like I said, we got to consider the source. Yeah. And on top of the fact that now you got craft going on the Pat McAfee show, which is one of the most popular shows. How Bill's going on the McAfee show? Yeah, Bill. Bill was the McAfee show. Oh, did I say craft? Well, regardless, Bill being on the Pat McAfee show today and seeing Bill's personality come out, let's just say that it is really swaying more to Bill's side at this point. Yeah. And what we'll call the PR war. All right, let's get the hell away from this topic. We'll take a quick break when we come back, we'll go over the quarterback prospect says we are eight days away from the NFL draft. You're listening to the Fumbrooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. So one's got to get that six or seven spot is an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a loose, loose scenario for both sides. You're listening to the Fumbrooski podcast by power 18 radio secret weapon consulting Chris cost that CJ materials as we move on to our second and final topic of the evening our quarterback prospects coming into the 2024 NFL draft. And this is probably one of the more hyped up draft classes that we have seen in a while. And a lot of big names too. I mean, obviously, I'm just going to read off the list and every single name you have either heard once or too many times, Kayla Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake may, Michael Pennics, JJ McCarthy, bone next, Spencer Radler, Michael Pratt, Jordan Travis, Joe Milton, Sam Hartman. And that's, that's just the top 11 guys right there just the top 11 guys right there. And the big problem that at least that I've seen with this class is that it's so hyped up that it just seems maybe it's too good to be true that like these guys are so hyped up to be the next big thing. But now it's that wave of concern of are these guys being too hyped up and we're going to see a bunch of underachieving motherfuckers now. Yeah, let's be real, all right. The thing with these quarterbacks, just hear me out, all right. I mean, you name the top 11, but in reality, I don't really care about the top six Kayla Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake may, Michael Pennics, junior JJ McCarthy and bone next. These are the only ones that I think actually a solid shot to start in this league barring somebody who goes on some nutty kind of like Tom Brady journey, right, where it's like a million to one. But if we're going to start accounting for that, then why even bother? So we all know the consensus number one, right, that's Kayla Williams, at least as far as quarterbacks go. Wouldn't call the best prospect, he's probably number two behind the Ohio State White out of Armand Harrison, Jr. as far as overall prospects, but Williams is still QB one, right. And I have a take. I want to see if you agree with this, Chris, though I like guys like May, Daniels, Penn Not one of them should be starting week one. It's been, I think that's been a take that we've said a few times. I think Adam is wondering, I think that's that is literally just how it is. I like all these guys, but none of them, except for Williams, no one except for Williams has any business starting week one. And that's just the truth. And I think this is very indicative of the way that the NFL is going these days because we're seeing fewer and fewer truly polished prospects coming out of the draft and see that every quarterback on the first round is like a project, you know, they're all projects, but they're high upside flashy projects. And I really don't like the way the league's going like we're getting to the point where they said where this is a stack quarterback class and five have the six top dogs are going to have to sit if an organization knows what's good for them. So for me personally, we all know Williams is number one, but my number two personally is the UNC Man Drake May. My three is Jay Daniels, my four is Jay Jay McCarthy. And then I would say, now that's talk between Pennics and Knicks. You can go either which way I would lean Pennics over Knicks, but that's just me. Yeah, it's the next thing is weird for me just because he wasn't a Heisman candidate until he went to Oregon. And then all of a sudden he got all this hype once he got out of the SEC and now granted like the SEC isn't necessarily like you could make the case that the SEC isn't really the same conference is what it was five years ago with because obviously you got Georgia and Damma running the show and LSU wreaking havoc, but really it's just mainly Georgia that's kind of been running things and whatnot for the last however many years for the SEC. Sorry about the dog if you can hear. Oh, well, we have our Adam replacement, you know, because there's a dog that's always going off in the backyard. But regardless, it's like so yeah, bow next to me is just weird one because of that. Jay Jay McCarthy is a weird one because like Jim Harbaugh at Michigan really focused on the running game and it was very reliant on making sure that McCarthy wasn't doing too much and like yeah, you can make the case that Jay Jay McCarthy wasn't the sole reason that they won it all and whatnot. I mean, he was a reason, but he was also kind of you can also make the case he was really just piggybacking off the defense in the run game. And I mean, for good reason, I mean, Washington couldn't stop a nosebleed to save their life in that game in that championship game. But in terms of your other guys here like, like I like Pennics, but he's another guy that also garnered a lot of hype from last year and that's kind of the case with a lot of these guys, it seems, right? Like Jane Daniels is a guy that wasn't considered a Heisman candidate until you had a 700 yard game. Yeah, that's the thing with Daniels going into this college football season. They did their way to early draft projections and he was considered like a late fifth and onward round pick like someone you take a flyer on and develop. But then, you know, now he's the Heisman winner, you know, you have guys that I usually tend to be a little wary of guys that don't do Jack and or crap while they're in college. And then their final season, they just dazzle you and it's like, I mean, I know there's some people who've bucked that trend, but I have to raise my eyebrow a bit. Yeah. 100%. Because you already know what you had in guys like Williams and May. So speaking of what you want, I'll get into breaking down some of these quarterbacks. Yeah, go right ahead, my friend. So we're going to start off with the top dog himself, USC's Caleb Williams, who let's face it is a future Chicago bear. Can we all agree on that? Yeah, I think that's pretty self-explanatory right there. As if the bears don't take him, then Ryan Paul's needs to have his head examined stat. So I mean, this guy, his arm is a lead, all right? Even when he's like getting knocked, you know, kind of like in the words of Tony Romo, it's so kind of a homie. I mean, like he's in midair and he's just like eating a ball downfield. And it's just his big playability is insane. And he keeps a cool head under pressure. And what I like the most is how he stuffs the stat sheet, wherever he goes. And he always, you know, he won the Heisman last season, right? But he doesn't have like elite elite, like top of the line talent, you know, like Marvin, he didn't play with Marvin Harrison Jr. you know, he didn't play with Malik neighbors. He didn't play with Roma Dunes. He didn't play with the Brock Bowers. Yeah. I mean, he had Jordan Anderson last season. That was pretty much it. And his own line is not really that good. And the run game wasn't super great either. I mean, aside from maybe Marshall and Lloyd, but that's pretty much it. And one of the biggest concerns about Kale Boillings too is like every time that they played every time they played a top 25 team, these stat differential that he likes that differential for averages for yards, touchdowns, completion percentage would go down. It would drastically go down to compare to outside of top 25 teams, especially last year. So that was a lot of concern for a lot of people, but it can also go back to what you just said. He's not necessarily playing with the Marvin Harrison's or the Dunsies and neighbors of the game. So it's kind of hard to really say, oh, Kale Boillings doesn't perform well against good competition. Well, does the talent around his team live up to that though? Did the talent around him help him be able to do to actually be able to perform at a higher level? If not, then yeah, you have the case that or if so, that the talent level is up to par for what he needed to compete against top 25 team, then yeah, you can make the case that he doesn't perform well against good teams. And how is that going to translate to the NFL when he's playing against, say, the San Francisco 49ers or the Kansas City Chiefs or whatever, or the Cleveland Browns, it's I'm just spinning off good defenses right now, I don't know. But regardless, I mean, even terrible defense, like, how is he going to play against them? Yeah. So like I said, we know he's going to Chicago. So you know that he's going to have Dean and Allen and DJ Moore and Cole come back to throw too. So it's not like he's going to be hurting for weapons. And so long as he doesn't hold the ball as long as fields does, he should be fine. I mean, granted the only something to write home about because nothing as bad as the bears and brass make it out to me. Because yes, I'm sorry, Lord and savior fields didn't work. I'm also sorry that Justin Fields held the ball literally longer than any other quarterback. Like this is like out of like the 38 quarterbacks who qualified, he held the ball along this. That is just the truth. The truth. And thing is with William was right, we all know what he is. But for some of his weaknesses, yes, I know he's six, one, we're just going to gloss over that because I don't care, it doesn't really matter. So when people think about the offense that he played in, right, if you go in and break it down, these are one read concepts, you know what I mean? These are shotgun formation plays. He plays exclusively in the shotgun and he plays one read concept. Well, I mean, that's also learning curve. That's also like the majority of college teams, though, too. Like majority of college. Okay. I understand that. I do. But if that's the case, then you explain to me why Drake made into that, why Jane Danielson do that, why JJ McCarthy didn't do that. I mean, that's just a different system at that point. I mean, yeah, it's like the majority of the college teams that you see nowadays will run out of that spread formation and whatnot. And yeah, sometimes that doesn't translate well to the league, obviously. But I mean, you do have to mix it in every now and then and that, I mean, if you want to give JJ McCarthy and Jaden Daniels and Drake made the edge on that, then by all means. But I don't think that we can necessarily say that it hinders him. I mean, what do you run in high school? No, no, I mean, it's not going to hinder him, but what's going to happen like when he has to like do more on the NFL. Do I think it's going to hinder him that much? No, I don't. Do I start there to be a learning curve? Maybe a little while, but that's not even the big issue for me. It's really not. He does have a few red flags, and that's right, sports fans. I'm going to say it for character problems. There are for starters, his father, oh my God, his father is something else. He obviously, you know, he's been one of those dads that's been trying to get his kid in the NFL since the early times and you know, fine, whatever that I'm not a parent, obviously I wouldn't know. But he's contacted agents to see if Caleb could get a minority ownership stake per the athletic and Carl's already controversial because he's like already doing the talking for his kids. I say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you are not on the field. You are a father. You don't care what you think. And we better pray that Carl Williams does not have as much influence as he appears to be because that could be scared. And you know, Caleb, as you know, as it sits now, I don't believe has an agent, and that is directly because of his father, Carl Williams. And oh my God, and you know, he's always spouting off some sound bites about the draft and then like some of his kids even business holdings like, oh, and not to mention, we all were, I was going to say, not to mention, there was those rumors where his dad was like, I don't want you playing here, here, and here, like Carl Williams, who are you again? I don't know, because my one's like Caleb, we think Caleb Williams, the arm strength, the dazzling throws, the mobility, wow. And we're not talking about that little, that that ball and chain on his ankle that's called Carl Williams, okay, we're not talking about that. And on top of that, there's some, well, you know, some weird character stuck to about, you know, not having an agent, which you know, a lot of players don't do that, so it's not that big of a deal, at least not to me. But that whole thing about not providing his medical information during the combine, you know, was a bit of a red flag, I get it, I understand how he wasn't going to withhold it entirely, he's just not going to make it publish all 32 teams, he's like, well, they all can't draft me, which I get, but I mean, that's kind of weird. If you're going to be the number one overall pick and everyone knows it, like, I feel like the bears are the only ones that really need to see the medical information at that point, though. No, no, I do, I do, but it's just, eh, you know, the other thing I was going to point out to is, how is he going to handle all the media attention as well? Never mind being the number one overall pick, but just his outlandish lifestyle, right? You know, seeing him with the pink, with the pink iPhone, the lip gloss, painted fingernails, he's doing photo shoots and dresses. And I saw, I saw a great take about in a comment section that actually made me start thinking, you know, we're, you know, we're actually seeing the first like actual Gen Z athletes and society doesn't really know how the hell to act. Which also, I didn't know how the hell to act when I first saw it. I mean, it makes sense, but dude, you're wearing lip gloss, honestly, I can get past the whole fingernail painting thing for one thing, but like lip gloss, really? Like, I can, I can deal with Harry Styles and Caleb Williams wearing dresses and whatnot, but lip gloss, dude, come on. Honestly, this might shock you given everything I've just said, I really don't care. You know, because I don't know if that's indicative of a character problem. Broders might have a non-conventional fashion sense. I mean, that doesn't really matter to me, but the thing is, that's basically what I was saying, like, you know, sorry, that's basically what I was saying, though. You know, you got your first like real Gen Z athlete. I mean, there's another one on Duke right now, basketball, I can't think of his name for the life of me, but he's another one that like paints his fingernails and yada yada and we're seeing Gen Z athletes at play here in society doesn't know how the hell to act. Yeah. So the thing is, though, my issue is not with Williams, it's like, hey, kind of, we'll get there, but it's about the media, because like you said, media doesn't know how to act regarding that. And I think you're right, it's just like, so you're going to Chicago, which is, you know, tough sports city, kind of like, you know, LA, Dallas, Boston, Miami, or those places where, you know, New York, where medias will chew you up and spit you out, Chicago is no exception. And I hate to say it because it's not something he can control, but they're gonna, they're going to be characters, you know, I mean, they're going to behave in the same way that a can like a real character. Yeah. So how do you deal with that? I guess it's just something now that's just something that we obviously don't have the answer to right now, but what do you say we move on to Drake May? Yeah. Yeah. Let's get to some of the other quarterbacks too. So obviously the top, the rest of the top three pretty much already decided it's kind of just depends on which way you want to take is Drake, May, and Jaden Daniels. I'll let you decide who you want to really go after first here on this one. Yeah. I'd say we'll go after May because May is my number two quarterback. Well, let's run it. So May is like an insane athlete because he runs a 4, 6, 40, he's 6, 4, and 2, 23. That's pretty good. I'd say. And not to mention as it sits now, he's 21 years old because a lot of these quarterbacks are a wee bit on the older side. So you know, just take your wedge, you can get it. So he's a good mobile guy, you know, got that pocket, but it's his arm. That's the real highlight. He has a cannon where his throwing arm should be. His throws have great velocity. He can throw under pressure. He steps up in the pocket. He can throw off platform. He hits all three levels. The touch is great. Just you know, he's got like, I said, the protocol quarterback build, just the fluidity, the flexibility, just, it's all what you would want. But he does have some weaknesses. However, it's good because these weaknesses are coachable. Does that make sense? It's always made sense. I mean, we've been hammering that, we've all been hammering that point for the last few episodes. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Which, yeah, it hasn't set in now. I don't know what to tell you. I hope that they're coachable. Yeah. So here's the thing, right? A lot of it's just in his head, you know, sometimes he can be little, even though he runs more of a complex offense, it could be can be slow in his progressions. The defensive disguises can trick him and, you know, I know a young quarterback is gonna take the bait a lot of times in the NFL, like, you know, how a corner will play off and you think the receiver's open, then he jumps the route for pick. Yeah, that's going to happen, we know it will. But the footwork is also inconsistent. He gets kind of sometimes, and he is prone when he's under pressure, just say, "F it, my receiver's down there somewhere," as he just launches the ball. So like I said, these are things you can coach out of them, you know what I mean? If you can develop them, then that's just going to be fine. Yeah. So his upside is extremely high, one of, if not the highest ceiling in the draft. But these issues, the only saving grace that they're all in his head and that they're all coachable. Jaden Daniels from Allys U, he has a similar build to May in terms of height, but then there's weight, where he's just 210. That's going to get you folded in the next level, especially when you're 6'4, you know, so you're a bit of a twig, right kid. So once again, great athlete, he's a good, he's a good scrambler, and I believe runs a 4, 5, 40, he's good in the pocket, his arm is just fine, you know, he can hit all three levels as he'd be. His decision-making ability is pretty solid as well, his footwork is smooth, and he's a good locker room guy, and he's a good leader. But this is also something that worries me, and this is coachable. But the mechanics, all the mechanics need to fix them. So it's weird, so think about the basic way of throwing a ball, right, you know, you step into your throw, you get your feet set, you get your shoulders square, and boom, you got yourself a spiral, don't you? But it's weird, because his lower body is doing just something else, because if you look at how he throws, his upper body and lower body like waist down are just not in sync, and you can get away with that in college, but you cannot get away with that in the pros. And it can sometimes hamper things like his timing and his accuracy, and in the NFL, where you're probably going to play more from the pocket, Jayden Dales is kind of like an Aaron Rogers type, where his first instinct isn't scramble, you know, Aaron Rogers gets out of pocket, and he's a good East West kind of guy, you know what I mean? You can get out of the pocket, he can go either way. But in the NFL, then Aaron Rogers showed that, you can't really get away with that, because the turf monster will get you, you know, once again, that's a joke, I'm sorry, but, you know, you can't be doing this, especially if you're not wrong, you're not wrong. Yeah, so, like I said, a lot of these with Daniels in May, these are things that are coachable. I cannot stress enough, these are coachable, so don't panic. But now let's go to quarterback four, or as I like to call him, the mystery man, the elephant in the room, as it were, and believe me, it were. J. J. McCarthy, Adam Michigan, I don't know what to tell you, I really don't. Everyone loves him or everybody hates him, it's just, you either think that he's secretly going to be the best quarterback in the league, or you think he's going to be Zach Wilson 2.0, but let me explain something to you. So as Bill is in what you would want, per se, he's like 6, 2, 2, 19, that's fine. He is also, I think he's like one of the, I think he's like the youngest of the top six quarterbacks, and that's all good, right? That's cool. We know it's all good there, but the thing with McCarthy is that his, his arm is slept on. All right, let's get that out of the way right now. I, I watched, I've seen him in college, this guy's got to mean getting involved, don't get twisted, and even though he does tend to come from a run to heavy offense, he can take over games as needed. He's not really a simple game manager, he can make plays, all right? And he's clutch. He's got that clutch gene. I mean, we've seen him in college, we've seen how we, you know, how he is, he doesn't stuff the stat sheet, but he puts his head down just because he doesn't have that flash, it doesn't mean that he can't get things done. And just his reads are good, like six inches between his ears, that, that's just fine. That is, you know, that the gray matter, the brain, that's fine. And he's a good leader. He lives in the film room, good locker room guy. But weaknesses, um, you can make an argument that he's a bit of a system guy, which is weird in college, but it makes you wonder that if you gave him a coach, not named John Harbaugh, what would he do? Like, how would he perform? Well, not well, you're just as good as mine, but I hesitate. I'm on the queue that hesitate to use the system label on him because I don't hate him. But we'll see. And don't. Jim Harbaugh, by the way, Jim Harbaugh, you said John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh. Thank you. There is no lower reason. And yes, I'm stupid now, but yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. So the thing is, like I said, he is a good arm, but the ball placement, just like a touch might need a little bit of work because you can't be doing that in the NFL, having your receivers like a just mid route, like every time because it's good that you can get the ball in a general vicinity, but can you get the ball directly there? Because you don't want your guys to just readjust because that's going to make you look bad. And just like the touch and waft on the ball, those need work. And his frame, like I said, is only average. And his football IQ, like I said, in the film room, you know, it's promising. But I wonder how it's going to translate to the NFL. I mean, where you're going to be reading some really complex defenses with some really to put it nicely elite defenders. And you who he kind of reminds me of, remember Matt Parral out of Ole Miss back in the day? Well, how can I not forget about it? Well, because every throw, how can I forget about Matt Corral? That's a good question. I wouldn't know. So the thing is with Matt Corral and now JJ McCarthy, they have good arms, but it kind of goes back to touch, which, you know, that's coachable, but every throw is a laser. Every throw is just a straight line, just heat seeker. But the thing, and I liken that to Chris, you play golf, right? Well, of course. Yeah. That's like going to the golf course and only bringing your driver. You're on the green, just hitting driver. You're just in the fairway about to get to the green, heh, driver. That's his thing. And you need, you need to put a little more arc on it. He needs to know just when to take it off the gas a bit. So you mentioned Matt Corral, but I would say he's got, like, the Will Levis problem, because that's a big Will Levis problem, too much of a gunslinger and not enough touch. And Will Levis has gone on to say that he is a bit-- No, I was just talking about it. And he hasn't been able to tell him the prospect. Oh, well, yeah. But I'm saying, like, Will Levis also has that problem, and he has admitted that he has that problem, and he's working on that problem. And in the last few weeks, we've mentioned how JJ McCarthy and Will Levis both are very similar in that aspect. And that's going to be a big concern, because if you don't have touch, then what the hell are you doing? You've got to be able to let your receivers be able to high point the ball. You've got to be able to float that ball out to the sideline on a deep out row and put it high and outside so that only the receiver can get it. You can't-- and statistically wise, completion percentage, JJ McCarthy is great when it comes to lasering throws over the middle, because you have to-- if you're going to throw over the middle, you have to laser that sucker in. But throws to the outside, not so much. Yeah, those out-routs that he looks at, they need work. And honestly, just the overall-- I mean, look, the quarterbacks practice the route tree just as much of the receivers. Obviously, one's throwing, one's running, same thing, basically. That's the same thing, just different aspects. And it's just that's something he needs to work on, just like anticipating the right of the variety of routes. So we have two more quarterbacks to get to when next we're going to do my number five, that's Michael Pennick's Jr., out of Washington. Now let's just get the elephant in the room right now. He's 23 years old. And if I recall correctly, I believe that he might be 24 by the time the season kicks off. He's going to confirm or deny? I can either confirm nor deny at the moment, but if you give me two seconds then, I don't need it. Well, I just found it. He will be 24. He will be 24 by the time. Yeah. Oh, bye. So his frame is not the best, you know, 6-2-2-16, you know, but he's got a great vertical, 40, good wingspan, you know, as far as the actual arm itself goes. No problems there. That man, his arms pretty solid, I'd ever say. And that, you know, that might be a bit of an understatement because his arm, oh, he can just laser it downfield, he's got a top three arm in the class. And I think that despite his booming arm and good running ability, he can already be a good, a game manager, his deep ball percentage is good, his mechanics are solid, his pocket mobility, overall ability are good. But this is something, his weakness, his biggest one is something that even though I want to like him, it's something that you can't look past and it's not something you can coach out of him. His injury history is horror movie scary. He has multiple ACL tears and multiple shoulder injuries and as a running quarterback, that for me as the quote unquote draft guy, that's got a reason I round a bit, especially when you look at the national championship game between Washington, Michigan, he was getting the living hell beat out of him in that game and he, I mean, his old line wasn't doing him any favors, which is a reason why he looked so beaten up by the time the clock hit triple zero, but now you're going to be dealing with a bunch of bigger boys and they're going to be coming at you a lot faster pause. And yeah, you got what I'm saying though, like it's, if he's not able to hang in there for the full 60 minutes for a college game, then it's going to be tough pickens for him for a full 60 minutes of an NFL game. Yeah, I think you're right. Also, this is nothing that he can't help. Just I'm going to say I know we like to fawn over them as football fans, but he's a left team. That could prove difficult for quite a few companies. And I was like, Oh, the lefty quarterbacks comment. And I don't know, the game has just been geared around the righty and you know, say what you will about it, but these lefties, man, you know, everybody wants to be the next like Steve Young, but I don't know. So some offenses might actually have to adjust because doesn't seem like a big deal, but it actually kind of is because, you know, when you talk about how you turn, which way you run like that's all that all affects the actual in game performance. So you can all say that about righties though, at the same time, you just got a, you just got a play call based off of that, except you make up majority of the league. Oh, still got a play call based off of your quarterback's dominant arm there. So we're going to move on to the last quarterback that is Oregon's. Oh, so the thing with next, you know, 62, 214, another one with like an average frame, not the most mobile guy, but he can actually get out the pocket and he's a decent threat when it comes to scrambling. He is the oldest quarterback in this draft. He's 24 right now. And I think he's still going to be like 24 minute time. The season starts, but yeah, he's up there in age as far as draft prospects go. And I feel like his arm doesn't get enough love because his arms actually probably one of his bigger upsides. He's a pure pocket, I know. His pocket is insane. He can break payment if he can evade pass rush. He can extend to plays, you know, like a good, heady kind of like pure pocket passer. You know, his release is good, his arm mechanics by and large are fine. The footwork is immaculate and he holds onto the ball. So what can be his weaknesses rather than his age? Well, the competition wasn't really that great these playing. And like I said, it's weird like how when he goes from the SEC, which is a scary division to the pack 12 in Oregon, you know, it's really no shock that he was as good as actually became, you know, and he just the way he processes things, even though like I said, he's a good pocket passer guy, it's I mean, it's a double edged sword because he's like a game manager, right? But when he's asked to put the team on his back, especially in the league, I don't think it's going to hold up. And just when he's forced to get off his read, and when he's, I'm trying to think like when he's actually pressure, like he does tend to force plays, if that makes sense. Not to mention, when the pressure is right in front of his face, you know, he can obviously see it, but it's when his blind sides attacked, because there are times, especially to go back and look at his tape where he's just a blip and impacts his pocket discipline when he can't perceive really the rush. I mean, but I definitely think like the second or third round, he is worth taking a firearm. Yeah, I think that's the thing you're, you're going to expect Bo next to be a second or third round pick and same thing with Penn X, you're probably going to expect him to probably be a second round, maybe even late first round pick to kind of backtrack between the two and even to backtrack to JJ McCarthy. For some reason, everyone thinks he's the third best player in the draft, which he's not and he's probably going to be a late first rounder, even though he really is, and he's probably going to be a top 10 pick for all I know, but yeah, it's, it's really weird for Bo next and obviously one of the biggest things is his age. And it's funny that you bring up like, he's just like a, if the first read isn't there, then forget about a type of guy. And you said the same, and you kind of said the same thing about Caleb Williams and like the type of offense that he was in, right? So maybe at that point, you go to the NFL. So I'll use Cam Nune as an example, right? One of the big things that they did with Cam Newton when he first got to the Panthers his first year was they just simplified the offense for him. They didn't try to have him do too much. They had him just read one thing, it's not there, then just fricking go. And they simplified the offense so that he's only worried about one thing and if it's not there, then forget about it type of thing. And Cam Nune ended up doing pretty well out of it. Granted, he turned the ball over a lot, his rookie year. I don't know how many, I can't think of how many interceptions he had off the top of my head, but he had a lot, but he still was rookie of the year. And it helped with his progress. So maybe we see NFL teams kind of take that same route if they were to do that for Caleb Williams or McCarthy or Bonix or Pennics. Maybe we see that go on for these rookie quarterbacks and they kind of take that Cam Nune approach where they simplify the offense their first year. So it gives them a good baseline to develop into more of the, it's more of the intricate level offensive stuff. Yeah, I do. So hit the new round on the head. Yeah. Well, last question before we end the show, who's your favorite quarterback in the, out of all the quarterbacks we just named off? Well, obviously Williams is the favorite. Who's your favorite? I don't give a fuck who everyone's favorite is. I want to know your favorite is for me, it's a tie between Daniels and May. I just, I like Williams, I do, but his father better not have as much power as he's built to have because that could be scary and I really hope he's able to handle the media. But Daniels and May, if Antaresama make me choose, I might lean towards Drakeman. And on one condition though, Daniels and May should not start. They should not hear that Scott Zolak, you hear that? Yeah. Scott Zolak, you and, oh yeah, I've heard, but yeah, I know what you're referencing and Scott Zolak. Well, you know, remind me how many, right, what he did in the league again, I backed up true blood. So for most of his career, from what I remember, that's correct. Well, yeah, I just, there's just some, there's just a lot of cases where saying your guy for a year works out, look at Patrick Mahomes, he sat for a year and he's the best quarterback is on his way to being a top two quarterback of all time, if not already. Baker Mayfield, he wasn't a week one starter and Tyrod Taylor got hurt, took over, almost took the branch to the playoffs his first year and then they were a playoff team the next year. It's, I'm just, hell even look at Tom Brady, he sat for a year, took over when blood so got hurt and he ended up being the greatest quarterback of all time. Yeah. There's a good amount of examples where sitting your guy for a year, I mean, granted Brady wasn't meant to be the guy, but there are a lot of instances where you sit your guy for a year and he ends up doing great. And now you look at some of the quarterbacks from the past classes, like you could look at Trevor Lawrence start, start immediately his first year, didn't do well and he's still kind of playing pretty average, but who knows if that's really his fault or not. And Mac Jones, he started his first year. He had a great rookie year and then completely fell off after that. So I mean, even, even, uh, what's his freaking name, Bryce Young, even Bryce Young, he started his first year and he got the living hell beat out of him. So and Lord knows how his career is going to turn out now after that piss poor rookie season. I mean, granted, it's not his fault, but regardless, there's just a lot of examples where starting your or fetching your guy for a year works out works out well. You know, I'm inclined to agree just, like I said earlier in the show, that's what we're seeing more and more of the Lee. We're seeing fewer like polished prospects and we're seeing more of a, you know, we're just seeing more projects with high upside. Yeah. Well, with that being said, we'll call it a day with that one. Thank you for tuning in to us tonight, uh, new episodes coming out Tuesdays at 7 30 PM and Friday, 5 PM Eastern standard and be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. We also have all our episodes available on Spotify, speaker, Apple podcast, iHeartRadio, Google podcast and so much more and be sure to follow our Instagram. Unbruzki underscore podcast, almost at 10 K. So hit that follow button for us. We really want to get to 10 Ks. And thank you for all the followers that have gotten us this close to 10 K already, uh, and also be sure to follow our TikTok, Bumbruzki pod, uh, to keep up with the podcast and the latest coverage on the NFL. 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