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Johnson's Betrayal with Chris Bedford | 4.18.24 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 2
Speaker Johnson is taking the heat from the rest of the Republican Party as he moves more and more towards the middle on these pesky foreign aid packages. Grace welcomes Chris Bedford of The Blaze to the show to weigh in. Then, Emma Foley joins for this week's round of Woke or Joke, the game where callers do their best to guess if a headline is real or fake.
- Duration:
- 38m
- Broadcast on:
- 18 Apr 2024
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Today's podcast is brought to you by Howie's new book Paperboy. To order today, go to howiecarshow.com and click on store. Live from the Aviva Trateria studio, it's The Grace Curly Show. We've got to bring in a new voice, a young voice, a rising voice, Grace Curly. You can read Grace's work in the Boston Herald and the spectator. Especially Grace, Grace Stand-up. Here's the millennial with the mic, Grace Curly. Welcome back everyone to The Grace Curly Show. Thank you all so much for joining me today. There's a lot of news out there. Obviously whenever the president is talking about China, cannibals, Israel, I mean the list just goes on and on. We're obviously going to have a lot to cover. But I wanted to switch gears here for a moment and bring on Chris Bedford from the Federalist, his latest piece is in the blaze and it's titled Mike Johnson betrays border security for more foreign aid. Chris, thanks so much for coming on. It's been way too long. Can I start by just asking you to explain to us how we got here? Because at one point, when the Kevin McCarthy, Ousting and Circus was going on, Mike Johnson came in relatively unknown. He seemed as though he was very, very adamant and proactive about wanting to secure the border that has not materialized. And now a lot of people are saying he betrayed Republicans. So give us a rundown of how we got here. Well, sure, when he came in, he was filled with promises. I was hopeful. This is the first time he'd even seen a social conservative near leadership in the Republican party in decades. So I thought maybe this guy will hold strong. One of the first promises he made was that there would be no money for security of even friends and allies abroad until there's money for security of our country. The border was going to be number one. And the GOP is not in charge of the government right now. The White House is Democrat, the Senate's Democrats, the slim majority in the House of Representatives. So they had to rely on the very little bartering ships they had. Now, well, Congress of both parties doesn't really like the Fund American Security. They love to send money abroad. That's extremely important to them. So the leverage he had was money for Ukraine. And he said, you're not getting a drop of this until there's money for border security and not the fake amnesty bill that the Democrats put together, but actual border security. And that too started to change in late February. And the betrayal became obvious just yesterday when he said, here's what we're going to do. We're going to put together a number of different bills, money for Israel, money for the Ukraine war, money for Sudan, money for Taiwan. Although the president can apparently redirect that to Ukraine, if he wants to, $95 billion is going abroad, plus a TikTok bill that people have been trying to pass. I think it's actually fairly decent one. Some sanctions on Russia, seizing assets in the Russian bank. We're going to package all of these things together and then send them to the Senate as his plan and the Senate will essentially have to vote. Yes, if they want to get their goodie bag. And then he's going to put immigration and border reform, just border reform and security as its own standalone. Now, that's just a pat on the head because the only leverage that Republicans had to get anything done on the border was to tie it to some of the wars that DC likes so much. And yesterday was a complete surrender. And it's basically marks just the last promise that he's made that turns out to be false. Chris, you know what I loved about your, your story here in the blaze is that you wrote about the SCIF and I think that out of all of the pieces here, you know, we're talking about what changed where the shift come in. You laying out the sensitive compartmentalized intelligence facility for me kind of filled in a lot of blanks. So could you explain that to people and why some conservatives and just some political commentators have pointed out that the SCIF seems to be a way to pressure legislators into doing what, what the deep state wants. Absolutely. Yeah, the SCIF or how it's called around here, the SCIF is a place where you can get your classified intelligence briefings if you're on the right committees or if you're in leadership. It's a place where you get an intelligence handler. You go in there. There's no eavesdropping. You can't bring in your cell phone. There's no recording devices. It's just you and your intelligence handler. Now, what these intelligence handlers do is they tell you a bunch of very, very frightening information about the world, about how great Pfizer is, how, if you don't have Pfizer, you get another 9/11. But they tell you the problem here is the information they give you is sometimes really important and sometimes obviously true. It's information that you're not allowed to share publicly. You're not allowed to share with your colleagues and you're incapable of verifying. So for years and years and years in DC, SCIFs have been used as somewhat of a leash to be able to control politicians and members of Congress by saying, if you do this, then X will happen. If you don't change your policy on this, then Americans will die. And there's something interesting that kind of goes across all of them is you're never going to get a SCIF briefing on how dangerous it is to have a border controlled by foreign criminal entities to have a collapsing central and south America. Because of those criminal entities, you're never going to get those. It's always going to be Americans are going to die and tanks are going to roll through Europe. If you don't allow for more money for the Ukraine war or it's always going to be if you don't allow warrantless wiretapping essentially by the federal government intelligence agencies, then we're going to get another 9/11. The information always goes one way. And you see politicians who come to DC, you see them change very quickly and very dramatically in their stances once they get access to those SCIF briefings and it's become kind of a joke around DC because they always change one way. And you know, this is something that I think a lot of us, when they see, we want to believe our intel agencies, we want to say that they only have our best interest in mind. But over the decades and especially since 2016, well, that's been shown, unfortunately, to be a naive belief. Yeah, I'm really glad you brought that part up and I want to get to that. But you just said, you know, the problem is for, you know, someone, for example, like Mike Johnson is, you get these SCIFs and you can't, you can't obviously go around telling people what you heard or what they told you. And you can't really verify it. But Chris, I would also say that in a lot of these situations, it seems like it's not a problem for them. It seems like that's the part of this they're kind of relying on is, oh, I have to go along with Democrats. I have to go along with all this. And I can't tell you why you just kind of have to. It's almost like the Adam, the Adam Schiff of the SCIFs, which is like, you just have to believe me and trust me that what they showed me was really bad. And that's why, you know, I kind of don't have a choice. Oh, yeah, it's completely insane. It's the kind of thing that moves against the American people. It's something that is used for our intelligence apparatus and the wars that they support and security states that they support always abroad. To manipulate the Congress to manipulate the lovers about him, manipulate the representatives of the people without chlorine them in on any aspect of it. And of course, as you pointed out, just like Adam Schiff, the intel agencies are more than happy to leak things that they really feel necessary. They'll leak information to or false, for example, about Tucker Carlson talking to the Russians. It's trying to set up a journalistic interview. They'll leak things to try and embarrass you. They'll leak things on Donald Trump to try and make it look like he's controlled by the Russians without a second thought. But the shift they use as a way to control people. So, I mean, what you have to do when you're presented with those things, it's going to be a strong and intelligent statesman as opposed to just a politician who's loved around by the nose, is hear that information, take it in and apply a jaundice die, a wary eye to the whole thing. And wonder is, who benefits from this queen bono? Where is this information coming from and how can I really regard it and how does it fit with what my constituents want and my constitutional duty? What do you say, Chris, to Republicans who feel as though because Mike Johnson has such a slim majority and he is kind of in a tight spot that this motion to vacate or, you know, kind of going against him like we did with Kevin McCarthy. Well, then you risk putting Hakeem Jeffries in as speaker, then you risk more turmoil. What's your response to that? You kind of got to wonder what the difference would be. Yeah. I was just on Capitol Hill now. I was just meeting with a bunch of folks in the Senate in the House moments ago. And kind of come to the conclusion that bigger Johnson is sort of operating on a kind of a parliamentary government, like he's a prime minister, where maybe he was first chosen by a coalition of liberal relations. Of liberal Republicans and conservative Republicans. But he no longer has the backing of the conservative Republicans. He's going to go for a coalition of Democrats and Republicans. He's going to box out the left wing of the Democratic Party and box out the right and just govern with the broad, what they call the unit party or the war party, the center of Washington, D.C., the biggest constituency or those people who want to sense who want to print more money. They want to spend more money. They want to send more money abroad. They want more money for their districts. That's what they're here for. They're not here to make a difference. And when you've got a coalition of folks like that, then you're able to pass really all the things you want, except for maybe what the American voters want. And if you look at the polls, literally from Massachusetts to New Mexico, people are concerned about the border, but that part, that coalition, not so much. I'm speaking with Chris Bedford, who has an excellent piece in the blaze. And Chris, I guess I, I read a headline today and it's a Chuck Schumer's bragging to senators about how Mike Johnson's giving Democrats everything they want, like everything on their wish list. Republicans are getting nothing. In other words, he's just mocking us openly now. I got everything. They got nothing. What did you do? It's a tale as old as time. But my question for you is, if you had to, and this is a little bit of, it's a little bit, it's not a specific of a question. So, sorry, throwing this at you. But if you had to say, why is it that it seems like when it comes to Republican politicians, we have such an issue, whether it's the males, the females, we have such an issue with anyone having a backbone or anyone actually doing what they said they were going to do. And I would argue that occasionally Democrats have that issue, but it doesn't seem to be as much of a problem. They, they do seem to be able to have, to make decisions to stick with their guns in a way that Republicans never can do. And you just said, what's the difference? And I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, all we have to do is beat a guy who's talking about cannibals and kind of get our heads on straight. We're not able to do it. And I'm wondering why. I think a lot of it is just the kind of reason that people enter politics in the first place. A lot of Republican politicians come to Washington, D.C. as sort of a feather on their cap. Politics is secondary to them. They've done business careers. They've been important in their community. And this is kind of a respectable thing to do to come to Washington, D.C. and probably a politician, and they crave that respectability. There's a lot of folks who are drawn to left-wing politics are drawn from a real desire to try and change the world. They want to remake things in their own image. They're activists. They never, they never lose an election and say, well, just come out in two more years. They call on the activists to try and change things. The majority is only good to them for power. And Republicans put that craving for respectability and this, I think, misunderstanding of Christian ethics as not willingness, an unwillingness to fight for what you believe. And they put those first. And because of that, they often lose against a significantly more vicious and ideologically committed force. A lot of those politicians are really the activists. They're not held back by their staff. They're pushed forward by their staff. Where even some of the members of Congress, you'll find their staff on the Republican side, their staff are more liberal than they are because they don't want to get boxed out of any future employment activities like what's going on. The Republicans don't like to fight, and it seems like they treat a lot of negotiations like they're holding their breath, but the Democrats aren't. They're just sipping a martini and watching. There was nothing. There was no reason for the speaker to suddenly have to quit. I understand that there was pressure because of the attacks from Iran. There was pressure because Ukraine is continuing and still losing the world of Russia. This gets kind of open, open knowledge now that no amount of aid will really completely change that. But Republicans just got nervous and they say, well, we have to do this because all the adults say so. It's a pressure campaign from the New York Times to Hollywood, to the New Yorker, to wherever, to coming at them all the time, mixed with that urge for respectability that Democrats don't suffer from the same way. Wow, I threw that at you last minute. And that was a wonderful response and a really accurate description. I think of what's going on. Chris Bedford, we love having you on. I'm sorry. It's been so long. Thank you so much for taking the time and let people know where they can read all of your work. Well, I can check it out at the blaze. So I'll be right in the future. All right. Awesome. Everyone go to the blaze.com and check out Chris Bedford's latest piece Mike Johnson betrayed border security for more for an aid. I did add this to my recommended reading. So if you go to grace curly show.com, it will link you right to the blaze when you click on that. Thank you very much, Chris Bedford. When we come back, we'll take your calls. I want your thoughts on what's going on. 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Corn pop in the pool chain or Uncle Bozy in the cannibals. Now, Jared assures me that after listening to corn pop, which is a fairly older track, that he thinks it actually is crazier than the cannibal story. But I tend to disagree. Timerville is a tough feat. I mean, I'm going with Uncle Bozy. 84% of the audience agrees with the Uncle Bozy and the cannibals. 16% for corn pop in the pool chain. You know, we are going to. We'll talk more about this. And I do want to talk about Columbia University and all that nonsense with the anti-Semitism that once again, you know, you think after watching the president of Harvard, MIT. What was the last school, Jared? I'm blanking. I was Harvard and you pen, of course, of course. Home of the Penn Biden Center where Joe Biden was president and professor of the Benjamin Franklin Cannibalism School or something. Yeah, they had a think tank and all sorts of stuff like that. Well, you would think after watching that train wreck where Elise Stefanik asked those presidents of those three ladies to condemn anti-Semitism or to classify it as hate speech and none of them could do it. And then subsequently two of them now are not at their post. You would think that the presidents of these other schools like Columbia would know what was coming or would prepare themselves on how to answer appropriately, but you'd be wrong. So we are going to, I'm going to actually save a lot of that for two o'clock. But can I have a little bit, Jared, of cut to this was one of the subcommittee hearings on China yesterday. This was Raskin and Comer going at it. This is cut to. If Joe Biden took a nine million dollar bribe from China, why aren't you impeaching him for that? Well, who says we're not? Well, I can invite Mr. Moskowitz to come back in. Do you want to move for impeachment today? Because I thought that that was your main agenda item. You said it was the paramount priority of the committee. No, this is a hearing on China and you all have an obsession with Russia and Trump. It's disturbing. We can talk about China and Trump or Russia or Trump. He's got a therapy, Mr. Raskin. No, no, you need therapy. You're the one who's involved with the deranged politician, not me. This is like high school girls fighting each other. You need therapy. I'm actually let the record show. I reclaim my time. You actually need therapy. Bernice. No, I just checked and you need therapy. This is the level of conversation, but I will say that the obsession with Russia and the obsession with Trump. Stephanie Rule from MSNBC, she's got what I would call Russia gate 9.5. We'll talk about that later. Up next though, Aviva Chartri is woke or joke. Get on the line now. Welcome back everyone to the Grace Curly Show. Get on the lines now for woke or joke brought to you by Aviva. The number is 844-542-42. 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I started a joke. Take care, wokeers. The word woke means loser. I'm the joke on me. Alright, now Emma Foley's in studio to help us out. Are you ready to go, Emma? Oh, I'm so ready. Here we go. Let's start with Ed, your first up on Woker joke. Are you ready for your headline, Ed? Hey, am I allowed to give you a Woker joke headline? Yeah, sure, good. Okay, Joe Biden was invited to a barbecue in Haiti, but he turned down the offer when he found out he was on the menu. Alright, Ed, are you ready for your headline? Go ahead, Emma. Ed, I think that was a joke. Alright, Ed, here's your headline. That's not true. I'm ready, I'm sorry. Composer turns climate data into music. Hear the stirring result. Joke? That's woke, Ed. Not a joke. Not a joke. The music. So, a Japanese geo-environmental scientist and music enthusiast wanted to see what would happen if he attempted to use sonification, the process of transforming data into a song, to create climate-related audio, and it sounds very NPR and it's right here. Whoo! You know, I don't like it, but it is... I'm pretty sure that was Elmer Fudd going after Bugs Bunny, actually. If it's climate data, I'm not supposed to like it, right? Yeah, it's supposed to be kind of eerie and make you think the world's gonna end in, like, 12 years. Actually, speaking of climate change, since I wouldn't have another reason to get this story in today, do you see? I'm gonna let you guess this, Emma. There's a new chief climate officer in Mayor Wu's office. Do you see this? I saw it, yes. Do you know how much this person's making a year? Gotta be six figures. Take a whack at it. 200k? Right around there, $195,000, the city's first chief climate officer, and climate change is the existential threat of our time. I look forward to once again serving Boston residents and working alongside Mayor Wu and the incredibly talented staff at the city. You know, if that's what you're making a year, Jared, $195,000, I think you would say that climate change is an existential threat. And I think you'd probably say that it's like a never-and-it's never gonna go away. It's changing all right. Yeah, because if you're getting paid, I mean, it's the threat street, and you're pretty good. Let's go to Linda, your next step on Woker Joke, are you ready for your headline, Linda? Yes. Okay. All right, Linda, here is your headline. How Trump's trip to Harlem was a dog whistle to Russian snack cake corporations. Joke. That is a joke, Linda. Oh, very good. By the way, that was a joke. That's not true. Yeah, the Russia stuff is coming back. Oh, it's back. You know, the one thing I thought, like, I knew no one was gonna get in trouble for Russiagate. I knew no one was gonna have to, you know, give back their Pulitzer Prizes or, you know, even have a May of Culpa admit they were wrong. But I would just really love it. We didn't have to do it over again. Like, could that be the one thing that we all got out of it, is that you got it out of here? At the very least, could these people just get it out of their system? Now you've got Stephanie Rule. Jared, play this cover me. This is Stephanie Rule on MSNBC talking about her theory. A lot of people call this blue anon about why gas prices are so high, cut 15. Tim, the last thing that President Biden wants or needs is rising gas prices. But do you know who wants them? Saudi Arabia, Russia, and their bestie bestie best, Donald Trump. So that explains it. Once again, nothing is Joe Biden's fault ever. It's all a grand conspiracy to sabotage Joe Biden. Joe Biden and to elect Donald Trump. I think they pinky swore on that one. Were their bestie bestie bests. Well, that's what you do with the bestie bestie best. Let's go to Tom. Your next up on the Grace Curly show. Are you ready for your headline, Tom? Grace, how are you? I'm good, sir. I'm rooting for you. Here's your headline. Tom, here is your headline. Okay. Proof women are meant to have multiple lovers at the same time. Penguins. Whoa. That is woke. Wow. Not a joke. Maybe I saw this one in the New York Post. It was written by a woman and she was recently invited into a penguin enclosure at a local zoo and saw the cute creatures and learned a little bit about their mating habits. So the zookeeper revealed that most penguin species are monogamous, meaning that one male, one female. But research has shown that some females could have up to three partners in one season and some males might have two partners. And she decided that this is proof that human beings should be polyamorous. I don't think we should be taking our tips from the penguins though because I will tell you this. When I went to the aquarium in Boston, the penguins are adorable. There's no, there's no doubt about that. They also stink. They're not very hygienic. Maybe they're hygienic. They just, you know, you're in that enclosure all the time with the water. You smell awful. So there's a lot of things I wouldn't take advice from. So I don't know if we should be looking at them for our relationships. Right. And these are domesticated penguins. We don't know about wild penguins. Yeah. They can't even fly. So I know when they slide on their bellies, man, it is. It's pretty cute. It's pretty cute. Well, you're up next on Wilker Joke. Are you ready for your headline? Will. Yes, I am. Okay. All right. Well, here is your headline. The sinister side of silver smithing. Paul Revere's problematic career. Joke. That is a joke. By the way, that was a joke. That's not true. Is it April 18th? Oh, happy Paul. Can you say happy Paul Revere? Has he been canceled? Have a solemn dignified Paul Revere. Jared's always here to correct me on those. I always get it wrong. I'd be happy Israel Bissell day for those in the know. Jared, whenever I think it's a happy holiday, you always are there as like the Debbie Downer to say grace. Not appropriate. Don't put that on social media. You're going to get canceled. So have a solemn and dignified Paul Revere day. John, you're up next on Wilker Joke. Are you ready for your headline? John. I am. All right, John. Here is your headline. Students walk out of Utah Middle School to protest furries. That is a joke. That is whoa. I just saw this on this one. Yeah, this is just trending today on social media, right? Yes. And in a shocking turn of events, you would think it would be they would be protesting for furries and the administration would be against it. Would I think that? I think that's your own bias. Perhaps. My hope and desire. But a petition was started last Sunday, initial target of 500 signatures by Wednesday. It reached 500 and now it's on to a thousand. So what's going on here? There's furries in the schools and the students aren't happy about it. Alleged furries in the schools. These middle schoolers, they like to wear cat ears. They like to wear perhaps tails. And some other students are they were holding signs. They want to learn. That's what the sign says. And imagine the nerve of these kids. They just want to learn when they go to school. They don't want to be surrounded by furries. There have been complaints of biting, scratching, spraying air fresheners. I'm not sure what that has to do with the furry community and barking at and chasing other students. So I've heard of these things before where in schools, there's been rumors about schools right around this area actually. There's litter boxes in the bathrooms. And it's never really been confirmed. Like I've had teachers call me on the side and say, "No, no, I'm high school. They really do have a litter box." But I can't say... You probably can take pictures. Right. That would lead to a whole other host of issues. But I could see that being a problem. I could see treating people like, and you know what? I'm sure the furries to identify as cats. Is that all furries or can furries identify as cats? I've heard of alpacas. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's a lot of the cats clean themselves with the licking of the hands. Again, I go back to the level of hygiene here. Yeah. And you become distracting to the other students in class. I remember being distracted in class if someone was a heavy breather. Let alone if someone was peeing in a litter box or scratching themselves or whatever. Well, that's the part of the dress code that they're really trying to emphasize. That it's, you know, you can express yourself in a public school, but once it gets distracting. And... Yeah, we're full mascot cost humor. Right. It's... That's a hard thing, though, to figure out of where the line is. You know? Like, the cat ears. Is that where you draw the line? The tail. No props. Maybe that's what you have to do. Jared's laughing at me. But like, what else? Can't carry around a string with a cat-nip pushball on it. Yeah. And listen, if you really like cats and you want to wear a shirt with a cat on it, that's okay. If you want to wear a tail, that's where we draw the line. Yeah, it's a gateway. Gateway to furry. It's a gateway to the litter box. And we don't want that. Sexy cow, sexy pig, sexy chickens, sexy fishes. You love that cut. And that's something you... What's not the line? You know what? That's something you've got to reflect on as well. You always go for that. Hey, you know what I... Sexy fishes. Okay, I don't even know where I was going to go. The sexy fishes is always distracting to me. Emma Foley, thank you so much for joining us for today's Welker Joke. Thank you for everyone for participating. When we come back, we've got to talk about these anti-Israel. You know, I'm getting real sick of this description, this label. These pro-Hamas rallies that are occurring all over the country. Right now, there's a lot of focus on Columbia University. Now, the president was testifying yesterday in a hearing about Columbia. She couldn't say whether the phrase "the chant" from the river to the sea, Palestine must be free if she considers that anti-Semitic. However, today, we have people outside of Columbia chanting... Actually, Jerry, let's just play it. We'll tease this, and we'll talk about it more when we come back. This is protesters near Columbia University, cut 11. We are Hamas! You're a Hamas! You're what? You're a Hamas? Yes, we're a Hamas! We're a Hamas! Thank you! Get the f*** out of our face! No! Talk about distracting school. I don't think anyone's getting any learning done with that going on. And by the way, I was thinking about this because sometimes if you partake in a protest, you'll never partake in a protest. But everybody's right if you want to partake in some sort of march or whatever. But once you start to notice that these protests get taken over by people chanting things, that you claim a lot of people now and dear-born are saying, "We don't associate with the people chanting death to America. Politicians are kind of trying to distance themselves." But once you know that these things that are happening all over the country, like Toby Larry pointed out, it's organized by one group most of the time, once you know that there's a tendency for people to bring signs that say things like death to America or chant things like that are pro-Iran or say we are Hamas or any of these things or call Jewish people pigs, once that happens once, twice, three times, I think most sane people, like the people who claim, "Oh, I'm not pro-Hamas. I'm just pro-Palestinian. I'm just pro-humanitarian. Aed to Gaza." Once you see that happening, you have to think to yourself, "I'm not going to this protest." Because even if it's not what I feel, the protest has now been compromised. 844-542-42. We'll be right back. We've got protesters in Seattle. We've got protesters at Columbia University. And also Ilhan Omar's daughter has been suspended from her school for involvement in, again, anti-Israel protest. We'll be right back. Pye, it's Toby from Cape Gun Works. I'm taking all your firearm and self-defense questions every Tuesday. Join Grace and me for 2A Tuesday, Tuesdays at 2PM. This is The Grace Curly Show. ♪♪ Welcome back, everyone. A lot of hoopla at Columbia University today. Police are now detaining the anti-Israel protesters who are chanting. We have here from the New York Post as a shocking video footage captured the moment a protest for near Columbia declared, "We're all Hamas and live Hamas at protests." As protests intensified on Wednesday, with dozens of students taking part in a Gaza solidarity encampment at the university's president face congressional grilling, we actually have the sound of the president facing congressional grilling. I don't even -- I don't understand why this stuff is labeled grilling either. I know I'm becoming a little bit nitpicky here with the labels, but they're basic questions. Like, for any other person, only the Columbia University president would consider these trick questions, where it's like, "Do you think from the river to the sea is anti-Semitic? Can I phone a friend? How much time do I have?" It was like saying genocide depended on the context. Yes. I can't remember which president that was. It depends what your political party is. Can I have the Columbia University president? This is cut 12. President Shavik, earlier today, the question was posed, our chance of from the river to the sea anti-Semitic. And Professor Scheitzer, head of the anti-Semitism task force at Columbia, said, "I guess you gave a very clear answer." Yes. You, on the other hand, hemmed and hawed, and then eventually said, "I hear them as such. Some people don't." What are you talking about there? Who are these people that you're referring to? Well, I think even surveys by the Anti-Defamation League and others have shown that even that some Jewish people don't hear that as anti-Semitic, whereas I would say the majority do. So it's one of those phrases that is heard differently by them. So that's who you're referring to is Jewish population? I know. I know exactly where this is going. This is a page out of Nancy Pelosi's book. When Ilhan Omar was putting forward all sorts of anti-Semitic tropes and saying things like, "Oh, they only care about the Benjamin's and, you know, Israel's hypnotized the world," or whatever nonsense she was spewing, Nancy Pelosi had the same excuse. You can't call out this anti-Semitism because it's from the radical left and they get to call the shots. They're in charge of our country right now. So instead you have to say, "Well, they have a different experience in the use of words. Words mean different things to different people. I hear something one way and you hear it the other." And it's that vagueness. It's that use of euphemisms that we see constantly in the Democrat party, whether it has to do with gender-affirming healthcare, whether it has to do with very fake news and disinformation. They do not want to be specific. They do not want to deal in facts because they know their arguments can't stand up. So they use extremely stupid pretzel-bending excuses rather than just calling things as they are, which is yes, you guys have an anti-Semitism problem. It's running rampant on these campuses and it's running rampant across this country, unfortunately. 844-542-42. We'll be back with more. Don't go anywhere. [MUSIC PLAYING]