Gemara Markings Daf Yomi
Bava Metzia 52a
Núnalef, Ahmad Bais, four lunch on the bottom of the new Mishnah. Kámatehe Hassella, a firebox to Selah Hasera, the Lójehe, and I double unline the Lójehe Bainna. It's a little bit of background. There were common coins in those days. They did not have the same type of technology or alloys as we have now, and so many of the coins would get worn down. This is going to be, if you have a Selah coin, how much can it be rubbed down, and there would not be a problem of Ona, which would be giving something that's not really what it seems to be. Basically, what's the ratio of rubbed down? How much can be rubbed out? And there's not going to be Ona, so we have three, to make opinions, or mayor who we boxed, underneath them, Rabihudha who we also boxed, and underneath them, Shrimadha we also boxed. Ramehrer goes, Ramehrer Omer, Arba Esau Rice, four issurs, Isr Le dinner, so if it's one issir, for each dinner, and we can even look on the bottom line of the picture I sent out, in one dinner there's 24 issurs, so it's basically one 24th, and I wrote in above, "Ramehrer 124th, Rabihudha says how much can the coin be rubbed out? There's the cut off point where it can be rubbed out that much, but not more." Rabihudha says, Arba Pundjounos, a Pundjoun Le dinner, well, four Pundjounos, a Pundjoun Le dinner, that's essentially one 12th, and Rabshimin, who we boxed, Omer, he says, "Shrimadha Pundjounos, Shrimadha Pundjounos, Shrimadha Pundjounos, Shrimadha Pundjoun, Shrimadha Pundjoun, Shrimadha Pundjoun, Le dinner, which is essentially one 6th, so there's a three way maklokas is to, if you have a coin, what's the cut off point for where a rubout goes from being okay to too much? Ramehrer says 124th, if it's rubbed out, Rabihudha says 112th, Rabshimin says 1 6th. Atma taym wadja lahaxir, okay, let's say you received a coin from somebody, and you like to give it back, is there some sort of time limit? Yes there is, bikrachim and bikrachim, which are underlined in the big cities, adkadeshi or lish alhani, so if you got money, you would show it to the local money changer, and they would tell you if it was okay or not, so it's the amount of time it takes, if less than amount of time has passed, then you can go back to the person and say one second gave me a coin, it took it to the expert, he said it's rubbed out too much, and that would be acceptable. bikfarim in the villages, though, where you didn't really have the experts, adh rves shabasayis until air of shabas, because everyone would of course go into the bigger cities to prepare for shabas, and they'd be able to take the coins and get them checked then. Kama, imayya makira, if he recognizes him, if you want to take the coin, then even after 12 months, like a whole year has passed, it would be, he can take it the coin, which the claim is now that it was not a complete coin. Ve'en l'olava, ella taro imas, and he only has on him complaints, we'll see in the gomara who's having complaints on who, and for what reason. Kama, and finally, a coin, which has been rubbed out or eroded to that breaking point, so to speak, that legal breaking point where it goes from being that coin to something else, venoisna, that type of coin can be used to redeem mysar shani, so mysar shani peros, you don't want to schlep him up to usual on, you want to redeem it into a coin. Ve'en ojoshe, shano lnfs rah, and you don't have to worry about it, because it's only a real negative type of person who would have a problem with it. There's a lot of pronouns here, mr. mni, gomara will clarify many of these issues. So the first thing that mora points out is ure mni, we have a teneic source, goes for just over a line, and it seems to indicate a little bit different than our mission. This day of source says, ad kamate hai hai sella chasera, how much has to be missing, or like rubbed out from a sella coin, ve'ya hai nai, double anon in the word ve'ya hai ba ai nah, and there would be a problem of fraud. Well, now, I'm looking back at the mission, the mission just said how much remains of the sella, how much is missing from the sella, and there's not anon here, said there is anon. So amarapapa lai kasha. So which way is it? If you have exactly, let's say according to procurement of one sixth rub out, is it that that's the problem, or if it's a little bit more than one sixth, that's the problem. So amarapapa lai kasha, tana tidan, the author of our mission, kahashiv mi mata limala. He is understanding things, going from lower to higher, which rashi explains, mi mata, or mi lima to rashi as the gears, lamala kahashiv hai kama. Sella, if you have a sella coin, hai pechus hai pechus hai pechus hai lechus, it gets continually more and more rubbed out. Ad kama yochala hai tzia, how long, how much, are you able to still use it, acha tepase shir kahre kahre, until it gets to this shir. Umi kevanshi, guillah shirase, hai parina. That's what we understand our mission is, let's say at one sixth, that's where there would be anon, whereas tana biro, the author of the bracelet that we had two lines ago, kahashiv, he is viewing things more, mi limala, le mata, asella, which is very rubbed out. How much, how little rub outs you need for it to be okay. Okay, well, mai shna, what's the difference then, becella, te pliki. Umi shna betalas, de lo pliki. We had three opinions when it came to a coin 1/6, which we're familiar with, but also 1/12 and 1/24. And why was it when a talus, or that matter, any item, as far as overcharging, there was only one opinion, which said 1/6. Why are they arguing here, whether it's 1/6, 1/12, or 1/24, then by a item, they did not. So, two opinions, ravana bai, we're going to have three or four different times, ravana bai in Dafnan Bayes here. So rava, we circled, and a line later, we circled that bai, rava says man tana talus. Well, who's the author of the talus opinion that it's, any item is a 1/6 price discrepancy is where there's fraud. That would be Ripsheman who's the tana. He also holds 1/6, so it's completely consistent. A bai says no. We're talking about a talus and price fraud. Everyone could agree with that, even Rabi Houda and Ramaer. There's a distinction. A bai yamar, kohl, and talus, which I don't know when you're dealing with an item. Ad shisus makhal enish, a person is basically willing and accepts up to 1/6th. He might be paying more than what the, let's say, fair market price would be. Damrienshi, like people say, famous saying, ashik, legabe, fashavi, le crease, literally, get a little bit ripped off for your back, but make sure you get a fair price for your belly, which is another way of saying that people want to pay a little bit more for clothing, as opposed to, and that's why in a talus it's up to 1/6th is acceptable, where shavi le crease, for other things, it should be at fair price for your stomach, for your belly, but what we're saying is that for other things, people are more particular, they get exactly what the market price is. Kama, that's all by a talus for, by a sella, cave and delay sagile, loy makhal, when it comes to a coin, since it basically won't be able to suspend it, you know, person's fine with the coin being rubbed out a little bit as long as he can spend it, but once he can't spend it, lo makhal, he will not be makhal. Gufa, we go back to the price we started the tomorrow with and elaborate a little bit further on it, we get about a 10-line price that starts here, put a parallelogram on the gufan, box off the brice. Brice starts off very similar, the way Arbish it did. Ad Kama, teja sella chassera, how much does a coin has to be rubbed out via heba, you know, and at that point there is going to be fraud, if it's, if you attempt to spend it as whatever the donation of that coin is, remayor hui bokstaimer, arba yisareis isso the dinner, which was one 24th ribhuda hui bokstaimer, arbapidyainais punjain the dinner, which is one 12th, arbapidyainais punjain the dinner. Kama, yes, ar al-kain, I put a arrow, we're going to refer back to this a little bit later in today's piece, more than that, mochra beshavya, it should be exchanged or sold for that, which it is worth. Kama, ad kama te pachais vehera shayla kaimer, well, how much can we rub down and you're still out to keep it, you know, you can't keep phony weights and measures can't keep phony coins in your possession, so how much? Well, besella, I know I'm besella ad shakal, and bidinar ad rova, so if you have coins and it's going to be rubbed out, this is the other picture that I sent, you can see a coin, if you saw this here's a conference of, I'll just call it an inch, the much more likely place where it get rubbed out would be the top and bottom of it would get rubbed out, so a seller up until you get a shackle, which would look like a 50% rub out, and a dinner until you get to a rova, we're not sure a fourth, fourth of what, but kama pachais miken issir, if it's even a little bit more rubbed out than this, an issir's worth, it would be usir, or is that lo yum kirena, you should not sell it a little toggar, not to a businessman, a little harem, or to one of these tough guys, little harem murderer, nayshe, mira men, ba esa karem, they will use it, these are characters don't have much trustworthiness, they'll use it to trick others, eliek vena, if you'd lend a bit suffer, what do you do with it, you pop a hole in the middle of it, and hang it around the neck of your bano, a bit sufferbitoi, hang it around the neck of your son, or your daughter, they'll love it, that's the end of the snake source, so we're going to go back probably about five or six times quoting the snake source and clarifying the issues, ammar mark, here's one quote goes for six words, it's been right angles, bicella acheco, bid dinner aureva, okay, so the way we're understanding right now is a cella coin could be rubbed out up until a checo, which is basically a 50% rub out, and a dinner coin ad rova, number of little means of fourth, it sounds like a 75% rub out, so as some are amaishina bicella acheco, that when you're doing with a cella coin, it up to a 50% rub out, umashina bid dinner ad rova, and that sounds very much like up to a 75% rub out, where there's only one fourth, that's what rova literally means, left, amra baie, ba says no, you're misunderstanding what the term rova means, my rova, to katane, not one fourth of a dinner, but rather, nami rova, checo, a fourth of a checo, which happens to be twice much of the dinner, which is basically the same ratio of 50% rub out, period, amarava, dakanami, rova says precise reading of the snake source will bring up this point as well, to katane it says, one word in right angles, rova, below katane, rivia, the way we're standing at one fourth, it probably should use the term rivia, one fourth instead of the term uses the term rova, which is more like a technical term of a fourth of a checo, schmami na, lama lele mitle le dinner be checo, why would we be giving you a dinner ratio in the kinds of a checo, why not given the kinds of a dinner? Well, milsagavorkha kamashmalhan, it's essentially trying to come and teach you something, matter of fact, lead to ika dinner, dasimishcheco, that there is such a thing as a dinner, which came from a checo, that's actually a valid, um, dinner. Misalai rabbami, this is a portra rabbami, now our rabbami underline is named dinner habami checo, you don't have to worry about that, even though it's really a rubout of the checo, but mutilakaimai has a post with dinner habami sella, which is a much wider circumference, a much larger diameter circumference, a dinner habami sella would be ossalakaimai, it's much more likely that you would think that a dinner habami sella is a checo, than it is a dinner habami checo. The bracedad said, put the right angles it over here, pakas mikain, isir if it's apparently more rubbed off, even in isir's worth it would be ossir, bit difficult to understand, because we already given a cut-off point, and we're given a cut-off point like, plus something, so my kammar, read the rashi, rashi is about four lines in the bottom bottom of the amor, my kammar, haa lake ala maimar, you can't say pakas mikain, dim amad sella, if you have a sella al pakas mishcheco, now as we said it would be a checo, then it would be even less than a checo, oim amad dinner habakas mikain, isir, ossalakaimai, dimaiire, isir filiu, mahshu, what do you mean if it's a little bit of a mouth, even if it's the tiniest amount below that, it's a problem, so back in the kammar, amor habai, yep, here we have a bai and rub again, i handle and a bai here, and two lines later, third word, a line is rava, amor bai habai, habai, habai, habai, pakas a sella ala yoyesir mikain, ai na a isir, if the sella is worn down more than a cheir bai na, well there's a fourth or a twelfth or a twenty-fourth, and isir's worth, then it would be ossir to spend it as a coin which is valid as it originally was before it was rubbed out, amalai rava, ani na na na rava, sisrael bai, habai, a filiu, mahshu, hunami, well again, if the cutoff point is whether it's one, twenty-fourth, one-twelfth, one-sixth, as soon as you reach that cutoff point, that's the point of isir, ala, so I squiggle under the ala, second approach of rava, ai na rava, pakas a sella, at a rate of an isir, the dinar, it would be ossir, kamavistama, who's the one who holds that ratio of 124, if we look back at the bottom of the previous tongue, well that's rebi mayor, which kind of makes sense, because estam ishna, usually, if we don't know otherwise, is rebi mayor, estamma kriv mayor, period, it's not awesome, we have a missiona over there in misechas, keilim, sella, shinifs, shinifs love, you have a coin that became problematic, ve hyskina shei shayko balmishkallusen, and you designate it to be like a weight, to mea, since it's now a weight, even though it looks like a coin, but it's a coin that's being used as a weight, it would have the ability to be macabre, so it basically became a "clear" at that time. Adkama ti pakas viehera shayla kaima, well how much can it get worn down and you're allowed to still keep it, well the sella, shnaidendren, pakas miken, if the coin is even more, rubbed out even more than that ratio apparently, then yakuts, you have to cut it into two, because who knows, someone might want to spend as a shayko, but certainly you're not going to be able to spend as a shayko if it gets cut into. Yes, relkain mai, let's say it's a little bit more than that, well makal kusrefunden revami, revuna wis circled, and a line later, we have revami, we circled him as well. Yes, relkain mai, so amorifuna pakas miken yakuts, if it's less than that amount, then you cut it, yes, relkain yakuts, and if it's more, you also cut it. Rebiami amar pakas miken, yakuts, yeah, less, you have him slice it, yes, relkain, but if it's more than that, yakayim, you can keep it around. Okay, that's revuna and revami. Maisve, I put a triangle on this Maisve, and on the amor base, and the third line, last line, is also Maisve, that gets a triangle as well. So Maisve, it would be a question on the revuna approach, who said both times you cut it, whether it's a lesser amount or a greater amount of rubout. Okay, so now we have a Maisve from the about 10 lines in the exhaust we had on the belly button, or the previous amorif, right in the middle, said yes, relkain mai, kra bishavya. More than that, even greater than that, is it could be used for something, apparently it's value, which would say it's like a full value. By love, so should we not say sha pikasah, yoy sumikadei, I know, that it depreciated more than that shear? So the more answers, no, yesera. It was yesera, the way we understand that term, yesera, or yosir, is dakati loy pikasah bikadei, I know, then mais kra bishavya. The way to understand this is that the pikasah that took place was yesera means dakati loy pikasah, it hasn't yet been rubbed out to the full amount of frog rubout. Mais vei, second thing, I was going to be a question on rifuna, the snake source goes for a line in two words, that kamati pakasah. How much can it be rubbed out, and you're allowed to keep it bicella ad shekko. So if the cells were going to be up until they're shekko, she again would be a 50% rubout. My love, so should we not say that what's going there, going on there is de pikas porta porta, and it's a little bit gets rubbed out, and then a little bit more, a little bit more. Now, if what we're saying was true, then rifuna would have a problem because how after it was more than, well, that's the 1/6, or 1/12, or 1/24, it should already have been us ready to keep it. So low, that's not necessarily the case because 99% of coins do get rubbed out. However, it could also have a coin that, say, fell into a very hot fire or furnace, and the rubout was almost the minimizing of the cleat. The making it smaller was almost instantaneous. Lo says the gomorn, with this, will conclude. In Nafel, in Nura, the ifchles bichadesimme fell into a very hot flame, and the pakas, the depreciation of it, or the base of the shrinking of it, came all in one full swoop. period.com.