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When we're back J-Forma DP and LA old-school crew coming at you live 1040-0 street, the first hour we are covering a little bit of the drama in college football sports. Obviously, we had the Arkansas Pine Bluff former player walk-on giving away practice tape and tips to Jack the State. Now we move on to something actually that I obviously didn't realize but soon as I started to think about it, it's actually been more prevalent recently. Now, if you haven't heard former Temple basketball player, I see your Miller is under federal investigation about alleged point-shaving. So, essentially, somebody who would probably potentially came to him say, "Hey, man, I need you guys to lose by five points." And therefore, he probably has to not play well. He was first contacted about it last year, he then immediately transferred to Virginia Tech. What then was dismissed from the team on October 23rd, so very recently because of the federal investigation and NCAA inquiry into the Temple Games, essentially, Virginia Tech came up and said he would never play here. His attorney says this, "I see your Miller has overcome more adversity in the 22 years than most people facing their lifetime who would meet and overcome all obstacles that lay ahead." I hope this young man wasn't coerced into doing something that he will regret for the rest of his life and he is just essentially the sacrificial lamb to everybody else's gain. The first thing was tipped off, kind of like the thing with the Alabama baseball coach was on a sleepy game, March 7th regular season game between Temple and UAB. The point spread moved notably in the morning of the game, going from UAB -2 to -8 by early afternoon, set out the alarms, and then obviously everybody was made aware of it. UAB ended up winning the game, 100 to 72. Miller did his part. He was a pretty good player. He only scored eight points. He shot three or nine from shooting and committed three turnovers, which is not obviously what he is used to playing and doing. There's also a thing, when you just think about it, you have Michael Porter Jr's brother. Essentially, he has a lifetime ban in the NBA betting on games and he was with the Toronto Raptors. You have O'Shawney's interpreter slash. It wasn't supposed to be a translator. It was his interpreter for sure. He was kind of a business guy and he was taking money from Otani and he was not very good. You just think about even the guy at Jacksonville, who was kind of like in their financial management. He was in their management department, and so as money was coming in from a game, he was like, "Oh, I need about 100 grand to put some bets on." And he was horrible. He lost everyone. I think he lost 61% of his bets. Big, smaller, large. He was he was horrible. Here's also, oddly, no, since we talked about golf, the Corn Fairy Tour, which is right below the PGA Tour suspended two other players for sports betting. There's a baseball player last year, DP. Actually, the Jaguars employee was a male or Met Patel, six and a half years in prison, and he goes into being, he goes in knowing that he is the worst better of all time, lost 20 million dollars. I mean, he was paid well and given access. He was paid very well. And it wasn't enough. And then you have two Capita Marcano from the Padres has a lifetime ban for betting on baseball, i.e. like Pete Rose, it goes on and on and on. And even in swim, Notre Dame suspends men's swim team at least one year for betting. Listen, it doesn't matter. I think up in Iowa it was wrestling. Wrestlers were betting, right? Was it something like that? No, there was worse betting in football. Your child's first step is a big step towards their future. 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Iowa and Iowa State had a run of some really bad stuff that was going on. And here's the thing, and picking somebody who actually has an impact on the game that they're going to play in. Yeah. We talked about Miller. He led them in most stats. And so he made potential too. That's just crazy. You know, you just go, "Wow, bro, what are you doing?" There's no logic to it. I mean, for some, and I will never devalue anybody's friction with gambling, because I'm a member of the club that says, "I just don't need the vice. I don't need the distraction." There were too many times when I was close to the game and knew... Something. Something that was going on that, you know, people would ask and I'm like, "Nope, we're not doing that." You know? Let me ask you guys this. Is it worse if you're just betting, like casual betting? Say you play set sport, but you're like, "You know what? I like betting on soccer, and say you're a volleyball player, and it doesn't have anything directly to do with you, or is it that like Pete Rose, he bet on his team to win." So he bet on his sport and his team to win. He never bet on his team to lose. Which one do you think is worse? I think he's fine if you're betting on your team to win. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. So the way baseball, the Players Association worked from it, was that your need, whatever human trait that led you to take the risk, is the thing that turns against you and becomes a problem. So they don't have a problem with you drinking. It's why you're drinking. Because that thing, if things are going well, not a problem. But it always turns the other way, and then it becomes the problem. And they try to tell people, same thing with dating. They will tell you. Listen, your dating choices coming into the NBA means that you're choosing who's going to partner with the NBA. Well, the logo and the shield, they will tell you, the NFL will tell you, "Listen, you're entitled to go and make bad decisions when it comes to your dating life. But when you make a choice and we make you a business partner, like we're paying you to represent us, whoever you choose in your life becomes a business partner of ours. And so you have to make these choices. And we say, listen, whatever your vice, whatever your vice is, and put it in air quotes, that thing for whatever positive gain you have will turn negative on you. So control your vice, control whatever that thing is. And it happens, listen, we can go through, we go back to the White Sox scandal. It wasn't the Black Sox or whatever it's the Chicago White Sox, but the Chicago Black Sox. That if you remember that in football, that the transition from college football and pro football becoming the NFL, well, the big issue was who was playing football. And all the families that were willing to control. If you weren't making money, today's money in the NFL, and somebody came along and offered you a season's worth of salary for one action in one game. Yeah, drop a punt or it became a thing. So the NFL, that's literally why NFL, the Law Division had to be formed. That's literally why the NBA Players Association and NFL Players Association had to be formed because you had to protect. Jay will tell you, protect, protect, protect the shield over everything because everybody wants a piece of the NFL. Everybody wants a piece of the money. Everybody wants a piece of the fame. They want power in it and the easiest way to control the NFL player or pro athlete or college athlete is money. Yeah, always has been, always will be. And so it, they have to control how decisions are made and who makes it. Yeah, and that's why you see adjustments now. I mean, you got to think of just a few years ago, the NFL didn't let Aaron Rodgers go be paid to do a guest appearance at a fantasy football draft in Vegas. And I think it was a pretty good chunk of change, obviously. And then like the next year, within 15 months, they partnered with DraftKings, which then still couldn't bet now, as we saw with Jamison Williams and guys in the NFL. Jamison Williams, who's a really good receiver from the Detroit Lions, where essentially, I still don't understand it because you had a rash of NFL guys that got suspended. It was the defense attack or from the Tennessee Titans. It was the defensive end slash outside linebacker from the Broncos. It was the tight end from the Broncos and Jamison Williams. So they have it now where you can bet, I think, in certain places in the stadium or arenas. And I always think like, well, what if the Wi-Fi goes down and you think your bet goes through and you walk out and it comes on out there on the street. Well, it's what we were talking about. And so then they had to tweak it because of that. And so they're encouraging you. They're showing you that, like, Apple, you're not supposed to take a bite of it. You just like, oh, well, you only could take a bite of it where we can watch you. So it's well, that GPS tracking of how payments are transmitted digitally. And if you have them under one server, you can, in fact, who it is timing. There's video tracking for any bets made during that time and what goes on. So, and a big part of the adjustment after the fact for NFL in Major League Baseball, NBA, hockey, now UFC, because UFC went through their transition. But they were telling fighters, listen, you cannot bet on other fights and suspended for agents, for managers, for being able to bet because if your fighters hurt during training camp and you know he's hurt, the fighters are going to fight anyway because that's how they make their living. Well, if you're not reporting and it's not transparent, then you find out that, wait a minute, the manager's betting against his own fighter. And that's a problem. They suspended a Nebraska fighter for that very reason. He hasn't fought in three years because his manager, he was hurt. He fought in the fight. Manager bet against him. I said, they made a movie about that. There's a movie about that. Oh, there's a whole bunch of stuff coming. As they tell the story, yeah, you can find the star. I mean, you know, there's a handful of Nebraska fighters. It won't be really difficult to find out who it was. But the US each place has to teach its members that they're smarter than them than the individual that the NFL shield and its collective is smarter than the players, because the players will figure out, well, I can have somebody else bet for me. Well, they figured out how to track that. Then it became, well, as long as I'm winning. Well, but nobody's always winning. So that that's a problem. Then it's who around you is being affected by your bets. Are you affecting your team's value? The easiest way for an owner to give you access is for the owner to realize that one of his players or two of his players in their bad betting are affecting the value of his football team. Oh, listen, I'm going to tell you everything. I'm going to give you full access. And they still haven't realized. There are cameras at all of those facilities. You're only allowed to bet in those spaces where there are cameras and digital tracking for your payments being done. There are certain states that you can't do that. I mean, listen, Nebraska has set it up. You can't, you can't bet digitally now. But you can't do this stuff that you can't do for that very reason. And imagine in DC, they went through it because they've got the sports book right there at the MGM and they've got them in the stadiums. And it took them all of two days to have 17 crimes committed just from those facilities. And that changed everything because the players realized, you know what, it's bigger than us. We're not smarter than the system. It just makes sense to stay away from it. Yeah, or if you're going to do it, you got to follow the rules. And, you know, sometimes, you know, even I think I think Sean Payton, when it all kind of blew up because you got to think there was five NFL players suspended for gambling, even before the guys that I was mentioning before. Every coach during, I think it was training camp or the end of training camp before the season when you're trying to get ready to obviously to win. The coaches and GMs have to try to get up there and explain some sort of policy that they don't even know about or don't don't feel very confident in the details. And so they're trying to lead these players in this whole world of gambling when it's really took it, obviously, about face, especially with the NFL where it wasn't wasn't ever an option. You got to think guys were getting suspended prior to this for gambling in a casino, you know, going to Vegas where it's legal. And if you do it in a casino prior to, and they find out, however they did, I don't know whatever it is, you're suspended. So now you're trying to really change the whole mindset and your culture around it, considering that, you know, thinking Detroit, they have a casino like in their stadium. And so they had to come to terms with it and try to educate guys, but obviously with the temple player and obviously if there's one, they just don't pick a random temple player, no matter, because a lot of times I think it would seem, they like to go get the teams that are off the beaten path. Temple is not a very prominent basketball team. It is probably not going to be the only one. There are some players that are probably getting ready for games. 14 school that have not been contacted yet, that probably know they've done something they should know. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, in this, we're talking about all of these different examples of this topic, like tanking is happening everywhere and people don't know about it. It's like, oh, he had a bad game. Like, oh, what if he had a bad game because he had some money on the line? Like, I, I've talked about this. I have a class at Nebraska Wesleyan, where we all we really talked about for like two weeks straight was tanking. Well, it's the big concept that, again, I will tell people here from radio, from an FCC standpoint, just the things that you shouldn't do. And every, they're, I can go up and down the line up and they're folks who think they can bypass the system. That's just human nature. I'm around, I get texts on a weekly basis about UFC. I'm credentialed. I go to, I go all the, I have permission to go all the fights for free. I'm around the athletes. I know what's going on. I have never made a bet on the UFC on purpose. I've never made a bet about WWE. I've never made a bet about the NFL. In the NBA days, when I was in Charlotte and Jake and verified that two of my best friends worked in, in the local folk dancing establishments. And the best information I got on how a team was going to play came from those people who worked there, because they would say, you know, who was here until four o'clock last night. And here's who he was with. Oh, he's not going to play well. There's no chance he's going to play well today. You've run from that. I can't, I cannot do it. You hope that the young people will learn 14 teams, 14 programs are a part of the, currently a part of the investigation. As he said, you pull the, the yarn to get to the thread. It's going to be pretty deep, man. Yeah, it's going to run. The funny thing about it is it's only, it's only a problem when the players do it. But like you said, Ellie. Um, the big, the people with the billionaires do it as well. Here's a perfect example with my Houston Texans. Lovey Smith was the coach had what essentially he became the coach because they hired a coach, fired him out the year. They couldn't get anybody to be the coach. Why don't you be the head coach? Lovey Smith is a great football mind and a head coach. Well, he's coaching every game to win. It was probably at a middle of the season. It was a foregone conclusion. He was going to get fired. You might have went over this. They were playing at the Indianapolis Colts. No chance of making the playoffs, but you want to win in the NFL. You want to make sure you win your last game kind of get, give you good vibes going in the offseason. He's, he's assuming until told otherwise you're the head coach just for your contract. You don't even think this is his first year. They started to play well down in the end. Well, here's the stipulate. Here's the scenario. If they win the game, they get the number two pick. If they lose the game, they get, they get the number one pick. Lovey chose the coach to win. And it's actually by the byproduct of that was emergence of their wide receiver now, Nico Collins, because he went off. Okay. They won. The powers that be were mad. He was, I'll pretend, I know for a fact, he was fired in the locker room. Now, luckily enough Dave Tepper and the Carolina Panthers did the Houston Texans a favor and didn't draft CJ Stroud and they took the other quarterback. Bryce, they took Bryce Young, CJ Stroud fell, fell to Houston and they got Will Anderson as well. Or they got Will Anderson and CJ Stroud. So we're end up working out well, but there's a lot of NFL teams at Tank. That's the same thing, because if you think about it. You are dictating or the outcome gambling. Yeah. So you could, if there's a big thing, I mean, heck, if if you had a executive meeting and they came to a conclusion that we leave. That we're going to tank and we're going to encourage the head coach to lose. Where's the integrity in that too? The integrity game is gone, but then one of them can go bet. Yeah. You know, or call, you know, and so that's what can happen. So anyways, it's going to be interesting to see when this story starts to come out. Now, obviously, this young man here is not playing. We don't know who the other ones are because they have only been talking about him. Even the feds have not have a statement yet. What that means is they're going to get all you at once. So we'll see where it comes out. Does it come out later in the season? Maybe during Christmas time. Before March Madness, after March Madness, either way, it's not a good look, but it was a good look. We're going to go to break, come back, Jay Forman, DP, Ellie, we'll be right back. 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