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Rolling the Dice -Ep 264 The Fumblerooski Podcast
5 days until the NFL draft this episode we'll go over our NFL draft busts and our NFL draft steals. You're listening to the Fumblerski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a loose, loose scenario for both sides. You are listening to the Fumblerski Podcast by Power88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostich. Alongside me, CJ Mediroz, we apologize again for the episode delay, of course. We've got a lot of busy schedules on our hands, especially with the draft coming up. Gotta make sure that we got everything that we need for the draft, and today we go into our potential NFL draft busts and NFL draft steals five days away from the 2024 NFL draft. In a quick moment real quick, I want to thank everyone for 10,000 followers on Instagram. All 10,000 are you. We love you and whatnot. And then everyone else that subscribes to us on YouTube and follows us on TikTok and all the social platforms. So just want to give a quick shout out to all the supporters out there. Nonetheless, move on to our first one, potential NFL draft busts. So CJ, Mr. draft guy, so we decided one per position, so we'll go quarterback, running back receiver, tight end, O-line, D-line, linebacker, and secondary. So I'll leave it up to you, Mr. Mediroz. All right, so we are going to start with the quarterback. And just as a general rule, all right, just hear me out. I want to avoid like some of the top dogs, you know what I mean, like the top three at each position. That's a given. So for these quarterbacks, we all know that it's Williams, May, Daniels, McCarthy, Pennix, Jr. and Nix, right? We all know that. So I'm not going to beat a dead horse and talk about any of them. We've done that already. But for a quarterback who could be a potential draft bust, there is what I want to talk about. And this one hurts me because he's a very fun guy to watch, but I'm talking about Tennessee's Joe Milton. And I do not want to talk about him like this because, you know, he's six, five, two, thirty five running a four, six, three, forty with the best arm in the draft. You know, that's the thing like this man just, I mean, think about the video game, Mad, and this man is as a rookie, he's going to have 99th own power because this guy like anywhere. There were my homes through the ball over the stadium, Milton's going to do that too. You know, he's a scrambler, he's, you know, big guy, he can run. It seems like he can do it all, but oh, my God, everyone sees that and they love it. And like I said, he's fun to watch, especially in Tennessee. But when you look at his arm strength and then you compare it to his accuracy, it's like a child with a fire hose. You know what I mean, you all know how fire hose is where I imagine you give that to like a five year old and just watch him fly around, yeah, that's what it is. This man's the definition of epic, my receiver ones down here somewhere. And he just keeps overshooting guys, I know what you say, oh, but you know, you can tweak it very time he tries to tweak it, it results in an under throw. And he just puts so much mustard on the ball, it just, he misses wide open guys like it's nuts. Also, this is a running theme with a lot of these rookies, he's 24. I don't know what it is with these old quarterbacks in this class, probably due to the covid times where our brilliant decision makers foisted lockdowns upon us for some reason. And I just, I don't know, these older prospects really sometimes can make me raise a bit of an eyebrow. It's not the end of the world, but it might nick a bit of his longevity off the top. And a lot of it too is just reading the defense because in college, when you're out there, you're making these spectacular throws, they can bail you out. In the NFL though, that's not going to carry as much water. You know, when you're zigzagging out there and you're just eating the ball down the field, well, as Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl against Tampa Bay, how that works out for you. And he, whenever they bring bullets, he just goes completely paranoid and just chucks it into cover. So the decision making, the accuracy, and literally just reading a defense are things that he's going to have to vastly improve upon. And which sucks because in college, he was fun, like one of the most fun quarterbacks to watch, but we have to be honest with ourselves and some people say, he's the number seven guy after, you know, like Nick's or Pennix, I say absolutely not. I personally don't even have in my top 10, he's probably like number 12. So what do you think, Chris? I mean, yeah, you, you got, I think you hit on everything really and it, you know, this melon's a really good athlete. And in terms of all the measurables of athleticism, he's in the 80th percentile for pretty much every single one. And yeah, looking at this right now, it's just, he's projected to be a six round pick. And just doesn't, he's going to be one of those guys that, you know, he was a fun guy to watch in college, but he's not going to do much in the league, in my opinion. I think that's pretty self explanatory. Yep. And moving on to the running back position. This is not very deep running back class. And I'll be one of the first ones to tell you that. So, so you could just attack really any prospect for anything. But there is one guy who's considered a top five back here that I just don't see. And that is Audrey Estimae of Notre Dame. Now he's a young, he is just 20 years old. He's, you know, five, ten or five, eleven, I think, two hundred, twenty one pounds. That's good. But this man is just not fast. He's not even quick. The agility, the speed as a, or just not there. In which way they say, oh, he's the work horse back like Derek Henry. I'm like, yeah, but Derek Henry can fly. This guy can't. He runs a four, seven, one, forty. And look, don't get me wrong. He's a, he's the powerbacks powerback. He's going to muscle you down. He can, he was good with balance. He can lurched forward. He fights with the extra yards. But if he breaks into the open field, he's going to be quick to catch up to because he just doesn't have that second wind in him. The extra gear is at work to take the ball and just break away into the house. And this is something that a few people have said, you know, draft analysts and it's on fldraftbuzz.com right now. It's the way he runs in the NFL. Audric Estimae is going to complete needs to completely rework how he just runs. Does that make sense? Oh, no, it completely makes sense. And on top of that too, he's just, his accelerate is burst and you talk about his breakaway speed and you know, he's got a slow 40 and whatnot. But the big thing too is that he doesn't really have a lot of good acceleration either. So he's not able to even really get himself to that top speed as quick as he should be. Yeah. And so here's the thing, right? He's a one trick pony as well. Now in the NFL, you and I both know this, we're in the era of positionless football. And yet despite this, he's not really a three down back. He's not really a pass catcher like at all and worse yet, despite the fact he's the power backs power back, he has a bit of a fumbling problem. So if you have Andre guest main, you're taught by running backs, I have a question, why? Yeah, it just, he's probably if he does get somewhere in the league, I would expect him to be more of your short, your short distance running back, your goal line running back. The guy that you could probably rely on to get like three or four yards when you need them to, but if you're going to expect him to be a high flyer, it's just not there. Yeah. And now we're moving on to the wide receiver stop. You know, I said I wasn't going to really talk about some of the top 10 guys, but I can't help it. Keon Coleman. Oh, we already we already crapped on Keon Coleman so much. We haven't done it nearly enough. He's Nikhil Harry, all right, you know, fine. Then we want no, if you want to if you want to go on a huge key on Coleman's bill again, you definitely can. We just went on and on about him, like three episodes ago, that true. You know, fine, but you know what, he's just an honorable mention then because all I'm going to say on him is this, all right, just hear me out. You know, at the tail end of the NFL season, he was the wide receiver to on most draft boards. And as it sits now, the highest that I see him is like that I've seen him in most people's rankings is by and it's getting to a point where I genuinely don't see him getting drafted in the first round. But as for somebody who I am not entirely sure you should draft, well, which is weird because he's a national champion, but Roman Wilson out of Michigan makes me raise the eyebrow a little bit. And don't get me wrong. This guy is the complete opposite of the one we just talked about, Audrick estimate Wilson is fast. He's agile. He's got the second gear. He can do it all. He's 511, 185, that's a bit of a concern because he might get folded like that the next level. He runs a sub 4, 440. He's got a slightly above four second shuttle drill. So you know, this guy, he's pretty good, you know, as far as speed goes, but that's pretty much it. And when you look at his frame, you can probably assume that his blocking isn't exactly great. And that's the thing. And I think you mentioned this a bit ago, or maybe it was Adam that this day as the NFL wide receivers have to go, I got to be able to throw a shoulder, you got to be able to just chip a guy, he's not gonna, he's going to get pancaked by these corners. And never mind like pink aches, I wouldn't even say pink aches. It's more just like the corners are just more shifty and more athletic in general that if you don't even throw, because I think it was me that made the point like in this day in age, you're seeing a lot more like, I guess smaller stature corners like sauce. Sauce is one that comes to mind the most for me. I'm trying to think of other ones too, but Jalen Ramsey is shorter one as well. But these are guys that are very athletic, very good. So if you can't throw it, like you said, if you can't throw a shoulder on them at the very least, or at least show some sort of aggression, then you're gonna get beat, which is the point that I made about Keon Coleman with all his size, but he lacks the aggression for good run blocking ability. True, I mean, you got that right. And so beyond just the physical frame, actually, no, I lie, let's keep talking about that because he's so slight to the point where it hinders his ability to break tackles, because as soon as an offender just gets a finger on him, it's basically over. And it's shown in his yards after a catch and right after a contact ability, you know what I mean? Yeah. Or it's like as soon as he's touched, like it just, the numbers just don't lie as soon as he's hit, like he does not break tackles, he doesn't get that second wind after getting hit. It's just gone. Now, here's the thing too, here's the thing too, he's going to make the catch. Like his QBR rating when target is 139.5, he's going to make the catch. But as you said, he's not going to be able to break the tackle so we can get that extra five yards. Exactly. And when it comes to the extra five yards, this is another scenario of where he does something in college that you can't get away with in the pro league there. He very much relies on his speed and speed kills in the NFL. But if you are a one trick pony, teams are going to figure you out fast. His route running, his below average, his footwork is weird and choppy with a lot of wasted motion. It's like, you can't just be fast. You have to be able to sell your routes. So that's basically why I say about Roman Wilson. If you take him on the third round, he's going to be fine, but there are some people that would say, you know, he's a top 10 wide receiver. I would think he's good by the hesitate to throw him in the top 10, maybe like number 10 at most. Yeah. This is also a guy that you're probably going to have to really, you're going to have to put it like in his chest. He doesn't have a huge wingspan. It's like ninth percentile, like 72 and two eights. It's bad. So you kind of, this is a guy that you're going to have to really put it in his chest because if you put it too far outside, then he's not going to come down with it at all. Yeah. And then of course, we got the tight end and who could forget, he'd stover from the Ohio State University. You folk watching probably already know how I feel about these tight ends. I'm not a fan. There's no more blocking. There's no physicality. They're basically just receivers, having to see what's going on there. But he's a little light for a tight end, you know, being subbed to 50. He's, you know, six, four, so he's got like decent height to him. He runs out sub for 740. That's good. But he's another always basically just a wide receiver. I mean, you know, he's agile, he's fast, he's got good hands. And he, but that's great, but here's the thing, once again, he does not block. And it's not just that he doesn't block, it's that he can. His blocking skills are just not there. And just when it comes to his rounds, he's another one that relies on his speed, which he has so much of speed is in great, it's better than average, but there's not something you can rely on in the pros if you're him. And as a result, so if you're not the fastest, then it's got to be your route running, right? I believe that that's what, uh, isn't that something I believe that Steve Smith senior once said, you know, I'm not overly fast, but my route run is going to kill you. Yeah. It's that same thing where it's like, where if you are not the fastest guy, your route running has to be pristine and it's just not for him. And here's, here's my thing about Kate Stover, though, is that this is a guy that also was originally recruited as a linebacker enters transition to defensive end before his freshman season and then went from tight end to linebacker 2020 to 2021 and then went back to being a full time tight end. So the problem, I mean, all the stuff that you've laid out makes sense. But the problem is it's just the lack and this is all due to the lack of him being on offense and playing on one specific side of the ball, which first position is the offensive side of the ball. Yeah. So that's, that's your big weakness there is like lacking the offensive mindset probably. Yeah, it's just these things with, it's just experience, you know, I mean, it's literally just basic experience that he needs. And that is some people would say he's a top three tight end right now. I wouldn't say that. I mean, just based on his attributes alone, he's probably like my fourth because I would probably put Theo Johnson from Penn State over him, but that's just me. Yeah. And it's not to say that like he won't or shouldn't have done well. It's the problem is like when you, when you're recruited as at one spot for so long and then you probably like not to say that he probably didn't play tight end in high school or on the offensive side of the football in high school, but you know, you get recruited as at one spot and maybe his high school was big enough where he was able to only play one side of the football. And that's really it. I mean, a lot of high schools, you do play both sides of the ball and whatnot, but that's a whole different story. He probably played one side of the football his entire career. Now he's got to play or his entire life. And now he's got to play on the other side of the football all of a sudden. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Now we're moving on to Ola, now Ola, I'm going to probably be toughest to grade because like there's real, no, there's not really many stats that can truly tell you whether or not they're good. There's more of an eye testing and that's just depends on what you prefer. But there's one guy that I'm probably not as high on as most and that is the Oklahoma offensive tackle Tyler Geithin. And I'm going to break my own rules slightly here. And so I don't talk about potential first rounders, but I kind of have to here. So the thing with the Geithin is that this is a massive lineman, six, eight, three, twenty two, ten and a half inch hands runs up that will call it a five, two, forty with a vertical jump of thirty four. That is very, very good. And I think he's in like the eighty third percentile for three cone. Yeah, eight third. So there's the other way around, I don't know. So that's good, right? That's all well and good. But he's another one stop and you've heard this before, who relies on one thing. This just being his frame. And he just he, this is something that you can coach out of them, I'll grant you, but he plays too tall and when it's like, cool, if you're bigger than most defenders, they get under your pads. It's over. What do they say in football, especially the trenches, the low man wins, low man wins. Yeah. And just the way he uses his hand and placement at and just like the grappling that you do, it leaves a lot to be desired. He's not, I mean, he's fast, but he's not quick. You know, I mean, he's got good straight line speed, but he's not agile. So he's not going to be, you know, jumping from side to side to hook a edge rusher or something. And he's not the most experienced starter. I think he's got one season under his belt total. So that's worrying. And there is one more thing, his run blocking is not very good. This guy is just an A plus pass blocker. But if you are a run first football team, I would probably not draft him. Now obviously once again, for all these guys, just depends on the scheme they go into. But for example, I saw like a Patriots mock draft where they had him taking him, right? For the Patriots, I think you would argue are more of a run first, like hard nose kind of team. They're setting up to be more of a run first team or run oriented team. Exactly. So I wouldn't take him because this man cannot run block. Where do you stand, Chris? I would have to agree with that. All that. And one of the other big things too is he doesn't have a lot of collegiate experience. He only played a 26 game. So do the math, that's about two seasons of college football right there. I mean, that gets you far enough sometimes, but it's not like he was a full fledged starter all the way through his career. I mean, it's one thing if he had 26 college football games and he was an absolute. He was absolutely wrecking people and whatnot, but it just doesn't seem that way. Mm hmm. So now remember the fence side of the ball with the D line and the edge rushers? Now here's a guy of a love-hate relationship with that is Wyoming's Marshawn kneeland. Now kneeland, I believe, is he can do well. Don't get me wrong. Okay. That can do well. Like don't do not get it twisted. But once again, it's just a matter of I know this happens to a lot of people, but I'm just going to the right scheme, you know what I mean? Because if he goes to a place it doesn't fit him, it's he's one of those guys that can thrive in any kind of scheme. The size and like the frame are good. He's a high motor guy, he's got good strength. And he's just a good power guy, like a bow rusher, that's great. But he's not an athlete, if that makes sense. I mean, he's athletic, but he's not that physical freak that you want terrorizing quarterbacks on the edge. His movements are not very asked, I wouldn't even describe him as quick or agile. He's just, he's powerful, but he's slower, you know what I mean? The burst and the twist. Yeah, that's what I was going to say to his game, like the first stop the line that you're looking for and like a TJ what type of guy. And while the bull rush is good, what can you do beyond that? Can you be more than a one trick pony? Because the technique, you know, you have your spin moves, your swim moves, just using your hands, he doesn't really do that. He just kind of pushes, you know, the bull rush, but he's not going to chop your arm down. You know, he's not going to do any swim moves now. And it's just, and I touched on this earlier, the agility, just like the bend, you know, just like moving your body to get around the guys, it's not there. He's very rigid. So once again, he's a strict bull rush guy. There's no bend. There's no agility. There's not really anything just beyond strength. And I think a good coach could turn him into a very, very, very, very formidable weapon. But if he doesn't go to a defensive oriented team, I don't know what to tell you. All right, linebackers. This is just a weird, just a very, just bizarre linebacker class. And you heard us say on the show when we were doing like our linebacker talk that it just, how do I put this? It's not, it's not a very exciting class. And frankly, I don't see really any of these guys going round one unless somebody makes a really, really big reach, if that makes sense. But there is one guy who most people have him pegged as a top five linebacker in this draft. I'm less high on him if that makes sense. That is North Carolina's Cedric Gray. So obviously, you know, the size, you know, as we, people say he's undersized for a linebacker, but in this day and age, that doesn't really matter as much because they're supposed to be smaller, faster, more coverage oriented. That's the thing. He's a cover game. That's good. You know, speed, he can sit in the zone. He's a good film room guy. But the physicality isn't there because granted coverage is good. But if someone catches the ball, you got to make the tackles and his resume is littered with missed tackles and broken tackles. He's also a very gullible defender as in these, uh, these rapid head movements. Like if I turn my head that way, he's just going to go that way and, or I could juke him out easily. Not saying I could, I obviously can't, but you know, like if you're a player, it's the royal line. Or it's like the missed tackles, the broken tackles, just he's a big arm tackle guy. You know, that's, that's an issue. And let's just say you call the blitz. He's not a good pass rusher. He gets stuck on his blocks and, uh, that one thing I hear might be more of like a just how his frame is to, he gets stuck on like these larger offensive linemen. He's got a high motor, but he over pursues. And once he like locks on something, that means if it's like a trick play, the actual like location of the ball can fly right under his nose. And I say he's a good cover guy, but he's a good zone guy. I mentioned he could just turn around and just sit in his own man coverage tends to be a little more. I mean, I still think he's a top 10 linebacker in this draft. Some people have him like three, four, five. I'd probably put him at like seven. Yeah. And the big thing with this is I, you've pretty much said it to the over pursuing. He's just too aggressive on a lot of plays and especially if you're going to be a linebacker in the NFL, you got to be able to make the open field tackles. And that's something he lacks a lot. And one of the big weaknesses that he has is early gap abandonment. You as a linebacker, it's, you got to be able to fill the gaps and be able to do it in a timely manner. If you just see something and you're like, all right, gaps not there. I got to go over here. And then all of a sudden the plays right there where in the gap that you should have been in. I don't know how you can trust a linebacker to abandon your assignment like that. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. So corner. Now I'm fond of most of these guys and I have to pick somebody. This is a mean, I would say avoid, avoid, avoid, this is something I'd be like, Hey, don't unless he fits your scheme, like don't draft him, like don't try to force a square pegging to a round hole, you know what I mean? This is, this is because I like him personally, but he does it a few red flags. That's Ennis Rick straw, Jr. Adam Missouri. Extra is an interesting one. He, he's a film room junkie, his instincts and just his strategy as a corner. It's next level. He's elite in man coverage, you know, he sticks to his guy like glue. He's got remarkable twitch, remarkable agility. And you know, he could just fly around the field, but when I say fly, I mean that he's got twitch in his game, you know what I mean? But we have said before there's a difference between being fast and being quick. He's, he's quick, but he's not fast. He runs a four, five, one, 40, which is weird to turn the fact he's not even 190. And when you couple that with a lighter frame, that could be weird. And he's, remember when I said about the live and guidance, right? Yeah. You know, how we has, he's a one trick pony, basically, in a sense that he can pass block but not run block. Yeah. Kind of the same thing for Rakes draw because he cannot play zone coverage. So if you're going to like a zone heavy defensive scheme, he could very well struggle out of the gate. And when I said he could stick to his guy like glue, that's because he's a man cover guy. If you were in a primarily zone scheme, you cannot draft Rakes draw. He needs to go somewhere, obviously, where he can flourish and just his very poor zone coverage makes me a little nervous. And there is just one more thing, despite the fact he's good at man coverage, the stats don't lie. He's not a ball. And in today's NFL, you got to be a playmaker on the defensive side of the ball too, getting these acrobatic knockdowns and these acrobatic interceptions. He had four knockdowns or passes defense last year, but no, I don't think he had any picks. And if you're not going to be the guy who's going to go up and grab the highlight reel pick, I mean, granted, we like to mock guys like Trayvon Diggs, who will grab a pick and he's on the very next series, get burned for a 50 yard touchdown. But you know what I mean? But it's kind of the opposite of that where he's just not really going to make the plays. He's not a very exciting player. And these days, flash does tend to win games. Yeah. And here's another thing if you want to be really concerned, quarterback rating when targeted last year, 96.9. Yeah, that's available. It's like, now that's like average run of the milk quarterback, like quarterback has a good day at the field and whatnot. But as a cornerback, you can't be allowing 96.9. That's just unacceptable. Yeah, but that's all I have for my red flag kind of guys. I'm not saying these guys are going to suck. I'm just saying maybe we move them down the draft board a wee bit. I like it. I like it. Mr. draft guy. Thank you. Very generous. We'll take a quick breather time out on the field. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll go through guys that maybe we could see them being a draft steel. Maybe we see them drafted a little later, but maybe they're the diamond and the rough that you're looking for on your team. This is the Fumblerski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie, truly a loose, loose scenario for both sides. Jeez, excuse me. Listening to the Fumblerski podcast, parody, dean radio, and secret weapon consulting, Chris Costich, C.J. Maderos. Sorry, I've had a long day. I'm tired. Oh, forgive me. Crafts deals, potential let it fell draft steel is your diamond and the roughs. C.J. Where are some diamond and the roughs that we should be looking for that that you should want on your team that could be a great late round pick. So quarterback is a is probably the position that is a biggest crapshoot. You know, just in the draft from first round to undrafted, you don't know. For example, Patrick Mahomes had Mitch Trabisky taken over him and Tom Brady was literally a sixth round pick. Joe Montana was like a third round pick. So, so you just never know, but if I had to make an educated guess, I do not hate as far as quarterbacks go two lanes, Michael Pratt, I get some of the weaknesses out of the way first. He's not like a booming arm kind of guy. Not like a Joe Milton or a Drake may, or he's just going to chuck the ball 100 yards down field. That's not going to happen. He moves a little stiff just in his technique, not in the pocket, but just is that he could use some refining and he's not great on the run. He's more of a pocket guy and he's not the most athletic, but let me tell you something. He's durable, you know, and he can stay in there. He can take the hits because he's not surrounded by the most talent at Tulane. So, so I mean, the fact that he's taken all these hits and hasn't really been hurt is a good sign. And while his arms not great, he, he's a game manager. I think he'd go in the league and be a game manager, right? He'll start you and he can start a pinch and he's not going to hurt you anyway. And his accuracy is pretty good as well, you know, he's not, he's not one to let the pressure get to him and he, he's a smart guy. He knows we're going to throw the ball away and he knows to not just chuck it into double coverage. And his mechanics are weird, but just the way he angles the ball is just so nice to watch. And he's going trajectories as well, you know, he knows just, he knows how to get touch on the ball when to throw a dart, when to loft it. You know, I mean, he just wanted to just chuck it away. So it's all about the smarts with this guy. And that plays into his accuracy as well. Good decision maker. He's disciplined. He's just what you would want. For me on this one, I, what I like the most about him and it kind of goes with what you're saying is how he knows how to put some touch, he knows when to throw a dart and just angle the ball enough to make the play and whatnot, put it in a, and weird windows, but I, it's just throwing in the receiver open, using your eyes, using your arm, just using your body in general to throw a receiver open. That's probably what I like the most about him. So running backs. This is like a scenario where I'm back classes with the greatest, but Isaac Werendo out of Louisville, oh, this guy is scary. Now listen to this, he's six feet tall, 221 yet he runs a four, three, 340 has a 41 inch vertical and a 129 inch broad jump. This guy is just a walking powder keg of explosiveness. And I'll admit, he, he's not that good of a run block, he's not that, he's not a blocker. He's not so many bring in there to pass protect, you know, and he doesn't have the biggest burst, you know, one of those guys that's fast, but not quick. But consider this, his acceleration is insane. He has no problems, not even reaching the second gear, but perhaps the third gear. And it's not that he, so I said he's not that good of a blocker, but let me just say it's not for a lack of trying. So he plays at least with a high motor, he's got a strong build, you know, I said he's six feet tall, but he's a, he's a muscle bound running back, right? His instincts are good. And he's a pass catcher. He has that ability, and he can come in and it may not be the cleanest dual threat, but a dual threat that you would have to respect nonetheless. And this is something I don't feel draftless at about him. And I agree with he has the ability to adjust to most schemes, which means he's kind of like a plug and play type of guy. So Chris, where do you stand on, we're, I know, yeah, I think my big thing is probably lack of agility. I wouldn't even say, I guess you could say agility in more just the sense of he's not going to be a guy that you can expect to be able to change direction, but I think just speed alone and his burst through a hole is going to be enough for you to want to be able to get him because a lot of speed, if you can get a lot of speed and acceleration burst into a hole, that's the difference between three or between three yards and six yards right there. I'm fine. But you get what I mean, it's, if you're someone that can hit a hole hard, then that does a lot. You're right, you're right. And wide receivers, this guy's been climbing up draft boards, and I agree. I'm talking Florida's Ricky Pearsall, this man. Now, once you're going to start with some of the weaknesses, he, he's not the most physical guy in the world, you know, he's six one, but he's like 189. And there's some questions about what's going to happen if he gets hit a lot. And sometimes his speed, which by the way, he does run a 4, 4, 1, 40, but sometimes his speed isn't always present, but here's the thing, right about Pearsall. I like his route run. This guy is a true technician, just when it comes to, you know, just like running his routes in general. And beyond that, I believe quarterbacks have like a 113 points on them QBR when targeting him. And he can play out. He's more of a slock guy, but he can play outside and he can play outside very well. And his route running rants him this innate ability to separate. And what's scary is after the catch, when he's allowed to turn on the burners, once he gets the ball, he can just go. So yeah, if you miss out on one of these top guys in the first round, perhaps in the second, I think Pearsall, like late, second, early, third would be a massive steal for you. I think for Pearsall, like, yeah, you can depend on him to be your multi-roll guy. Like, as you said, you can play him on the outside, you can play him in the slot. I think that if you're going to draft him, though, you're going to have to have him at the slot because that's where his biggest strength is, and that's where he performs the best at. And for tight end, this is a guy that I've pounced the pavement before with, and I will continue to do so. Theo Johnson at a Penn State, all this man's going to be a problem. He's 6'6 to about 260. State wingspan runs a sub for 640, and just has a, just short of a 40-inch vertical, a sub-42 shuttle. This man, oh, he is something else. And do you want to see even better than that? He can block. Raise the Lord. This man can block. He's a good athlete. He's a route technician who can find soft spots in zone coverage. He's got good hands. He's a scary red zone guy, and he's got a high motor, and he loves to block. The only bad thing I can say is his route running is good, but it's not great. He doesn't have the quickness you'd want, and he's a good blocker, but he just needs a little more refinement. But overall, he has everything you want. I got nothing else to really add if you want to move on to the O'Liamon. Very well, I shall. So offensive line now, everybody loves tackles, right? But our guards and centers don't get jacked in the way of love, but there's one guy that I think is pretty solemn that's Cooper BB out of Kansas State. Now he's not the biggest lineman. He's a healthy 322 pounds, and he's 6'3, but his arms, just like his wingspan, just like 31 1/2 inch arms, that's not great. And his frame can just kind of hamper what he can do. The lateral movement is kind of okay, and he's not the most athletic guy in the world, but listen to this, he has power, low center of gravity. He can definitely knock a D-Liamon on their ass a few times. He knows defensive setups, and from the line, he can read a defense. Not to mention, he's versatile. He can play anywhere on the O'Liamon. I mean, if you need like a stopgap center, or perhaps need to play tackle for a game, he can do it. His hand technique is amazing, and just the foundation, like his bread and butter, just like the actual footwork and hand skills, that's good. He's a leadership guy, high football IQ, and plays with power. And if he were, you know, if he were attack, we'd probably get more hype, you know, but I think he's better suited as a guard, kind of like a Peter Skoronsky type of guy. Yeah, if anything, this is a kid that's got, that's a very good run block, a very good pass blocker and whatnot. And you can expect him to definitely make an impact in the interior O-Liam and whatnot. It's obviously the height is a big problem, but that's why you throw him in the interior O-Liamon at that point. And that's where he's going to be able to hold up bigger defensive tackles. Yeah, so we're going to keep trying along here, move on to the defensive side of the ball. And here is where we got to talk about the Alabama edge rusher, Chris Brozwell, or is it Braswell? I always forget. And I hate to admit that, but, you know, I don't understand why he doesn't get more hype. Well, actually, I do know why. He's one of the biggest enigmas of the draft. He's a tough guy to figure out. He's got a great motor and he's got a solid speed to power ratio, but I don't really know what he does. He's kind of all over the place, if that makes sense. I mean, he's often used to drop into coverage, but he's also a formidable edge rusher. And it's this whole positionless thing that might hamper him, you know, especially in the eyes of scouts, if that makes sense, so he's not the most fluid of movers. His reach isn't the best. And he has, quote, a limited number of snaps under his belt, of course, signaling to be an experience, but he's a physical freak. He's got great awareness and his patient and coverage, his quickness, you know, his agility is hit or miss, but his quickness just as a base is good. His weight can fluctuate, but he most recently weighed in at 63, 250, and he can still fly. But the initial burst, his front line speed when he's running at a tackle, that's good. His technique is good, you know, like what he uses with like with his hands, not just bulrush, but swim moves and spin moves as well. And he's described as like a coiled spring, you know, that potential energy where he can just lunge in an offensive lineman and quickly get them or quickly catch them off their guard. Not to mention, the work ethic is what you want. Great locker room guy. Yeah, especially if you're thinking about it this way to ban a defensive guys from Bama usually pan out pretty well, to say the least, so expect this guy to do some damage. Yep. And now there's another one we must discuss. So he's a bit on the older side, but linebacker Peyton Wilson from University, North Carolina, is for 233 pounds. He's pretty underrated as far as linebackers go, which had like Peyton Wilson at a UNC, I believe, or no, no, no, NC State, sorry, NC State, NC State, yeah. So what knocks him down a lot of draft boards is that he has an injury history, including, you know, an ACL tear in college. So that that's probably his biggest weakness. And he's not the strong. He's fast. He's not the strongest guy in the world either, and his tackling could use a little refining a plus his age, like I mentioned, but he's fast. He can chase wide receivers and tie into the best of them. He can move laterally. He's just another just really good athlete, just fluid mover and an exceptional tackling ability. There's a question about how to translate. But the fundamentals, the football IQ, they're sound. And he's another leader as well. He can diagnose a play and he's one of those guys that's going to get in the league and just rack up tackles. So where do you stand on him? Yeah, no, I like I think the big thing too is that he's very fast, great acceleration, and that's going to be huge, especially for someone in the linebacker position. I think those those alone are going to be huge to help him at least get to the ball so quick because as a linebacker you want to be that want that guy that can be able to hold a running back to under five yards or and whatnot and be able to at least keep up with the quicker receivers at that point too. Yeah. So with our final diamond in the rough, I'm talking about Max Melton at a Rutgers. Rack guys. Oh yeah, he's undersized 511 187, but here's a word for you, tenacity. Now he can be overly aggressive, which could maybe lead to penalties at the pro level unless he plays for Kansas City. No, we can't, but he's a scary tackler, but he can sometimes overcome it and sometimes his footwork isn't all there. But the twitch and the speed are there. He's a 99th percentile broad jump and a 94th percentile vertical. His awareness in man and zone is good. Just the tenacity of the aggressiveness. He's got his eyes on the ball and he will make a play and even in the run game, he's aggressive. He's going to go and he's going to hit you whether you like it or not and he makes plays on the football. He grabs picks. He can just knock the ball away. That's what you want in a defensive back and what I like about him is just the improvement. Now, you know, you guys with high ceilings that just come in and just kind of stagnate, no, he's always looking to get better and that mindset, I do not see changing in the NFL. So I would definitely say second, third round and I've, there's some match I've seen fall before. You should absolutely take a flyer on Max Milton. I think the biggest thing too, and like you said, the improvement and you can just look at the quarterback rating from his sophomore year on. When targeted sophomore year, 92, 3, QBR, 2022 is junior year, 84.8. Last year is senior year, 65.7. What a jump. What a jump. I mean, 65.7 is pretty much right where you want to be or around that kind of area, maybe a little bit lower, but that's a pretty you solid spot, in my opinion. Yeah, he's not going to go the first round, but oh man, I think wherever he goes, he's he has the potential to be a real problem. Nice. Well, that is our NFL draft bus and our NFL draft steals. I mean, anyone else you want to throw into the list real quick before we end the show? Yeah, nah, then the episode would be over an hour and, you know, you don't have to guess. Yeah. Kind of just looking through any more NFL news that really hasn't been much that has come up where, as we've mentioned before, it's kind of at that dead point. You know, we'd have had some stories like Devonta Smith signing his extension as well with Eagles, which is a pretty solid heap for Philly in that sense or in that regard, but in that nothing too crazy going on the league as we get ready to go for the NFL draft five days away, as that'll do it for us for. Oh, yeah. What's up? I want to say to the people at home next episode is our annual mock draft. I was going to get to that. I was going to get to that. I'm sorry, Yeesh, and I was supposed to know this how I find whatever, who's just going to surprise you, man, just going to surprise you. That'll do it for tonight. Thank you for listening. 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