Kap & J. Hood

11/25 9 AM: Caleb Williams: The Future Of The Chicago Bears!

Hour 3: The guys discussed the development of Caleb Williams and despite the 30-27 overtime loss Caleb had his best game of the season. Has Matt Eberflus become a lame duck coach? Will he be fired after the Lions game? Around The NFL - Overreaction Monday and your reaction to the Bears 30-27 overtime loss to the Vikings.

Duration:: 42m
Broadcast on:: 25 Nov 2024
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It's Bears Munn. First thing goal at the one. Caleb awaiting the snap. Takes. Here comes late pressure. Ducks under it. Roles right. Throws wide open. Enzone right side pass. Caught for the touchdown. Keenan Allen. Touchdown Bears. Now for two. Snap to Caleb Williams. Throws back of the Enzone. DJ Moore snares it for two. A pump of the fist by Caleb Williams. One step kick. There's Santos. Rips it right. Ball moves and it is on the ground. Recovered by the Bears and appears. Yeah. Did it go 10? It talks about him. No, it talks about the Viking. All right. Bears have come up with it. Oh, my goodness. Trail to the left. Caleb takes the snap. Three man rush and a good one. But it's picked up. Throwing over the middle of the field. It is caught by DJ Moore up in the air at the 30. Bears rush with 12. Give it all to the other set. Got the official at nine, eight, seven, six. Underneath center. Caleb sends the ball down with three seconds to go. Walked from 48 earlier. This had the left hash angle right for number eight. Snap placement made. Swings is right late from 48 yards. The kick is good. We are tied at 27. We're going to overtime, baby. Bears with the fight of their life. They've fallen up their fist and brought themselves back. Wow. This place has erupted. So this will be a 29 yard field go try by Romo. Again, on the Bears practice squad a couple of years back. Middle of the field, hash mark. Snap placement. Kick by Romo. The kick is up and it is good. And the Minnesota Vikings sneak out of here after blowing a lead in the second half and coming from behind it over time to win it 30 to 27. It's Bears Monday on ESPN Chicago. Good morning, Chicago. And welcome in to the cap and Jhood morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with a Hall of Famer, David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. We've got Shay. We have got Jay Moore. We got you on this Bears Monday. Second verse, same as the first, the Chicago Bears lose. This time and overtime to the Vikings 30 to 27. The Bears have a five game losing streak. And we're getting your reaction. 312-3323776. We're on YouTube as well. YouTube.com. Look for the ESPN Chicago channel. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Like share and subscribe to our podcasts. Well, cap and Jhood as once again, cap. To me, looking at the way the Bears are going right now at four and seven is that the only attraction to me is to see the development of Caleb Williams. Number 18, that's my central focus. And cap, when you think about it, it always has been that way. But at this point in time, that's what you're watching for. For a young man not to get hurt, for him to continue to excel and develop because even when he's playing well, the team is rickety with the special teams or the defense or the offensive is always something. But I'm seeing improvement with 18. And there's no moral victories. Keep in mind, none, zero, zilch. But the point is is that I got to keep watching and he's the reason why. I want to see this guy chase greatness. And he's doing just that. He's going to be a hell of a football player. But that all said, you go for it on four down, but your kicking team is on the field. And then you got to call them back off and the clock's running down. And Caleb said, I misheard what TB, Thomas Brown, was calling for, the crowds into it. He's trying to get the field, get off the field. And I'm trying to listen for the Blake. Like, come on, that's high school stuff. - Yep. - And I'll keep happening. And I'll go back for a billionth time and I will a billion more. You don't clean up the field goal block issue and you get another one blocked and you nearly got the game tying one at the end blocked. It was that close. - Lines will get one too. One bunch of money down. - Oh, certainly have a great shot. - I mean, if the Bears are in that position to be able to kick a field goal wouldn't surprise me because again, it's about the game planning, Shay. - I was just going to ask you, will the Bears get an opportunity to kick a field goal with Detroit on Thursday? - I mean, if they're in that position, sure. You know, because the Lions are, the reason why that they have their success and we can go chapter and verse on this two cap, front office, head coach, coaching staff, offensive defensive Lions, attention to detail. And so if they get us, they get us, it wouldn't surprise me at all. The Lions are just that good. The Lions are, again, I'll say it, I said it earlier. Give Shay credit a month ago, he said, that's the best team in the NFL. I'm like, the Chiefs are undefeated, you've already lost. That is the best team in the NFL. Holy cow, are they good. - I don't think the Bears are ready for what they're going to get on Thursday. I don't. And I don't think there's any way to get ready for it on a short week. You're going to face-- - Yeah, that's not a coaching thing. That's just a fact. - No, it's, you're going to face the most physical team in the NFL with maybe the best safety in football right now in Brian Branch. Maybe the best offensive line and a set of very physical, hands-y corners. I don't know if you're ready for this. Their run defense is great. They're going to bully, roam, and Keenan and DJ off the line of scrimmage. I just don't know if you're ready for it. - I don't know if, as you said, you can't get ready for it. - From a personnel standpoint cap, this has to be the best Lions team of my lifetime. It has to be. From a personnel standpoint, there's no question. Maybe the best sense you're here watching Bobby Lane in those championships with the Lions back then. But I will just tell you that when you think about how good that Lions team is, I mean, from a personnel standpoint cap, pretty strong. I mean, this is more than fonts. - And remember the first press conference of Dan Campbell? We're going to bite knees and ankles and all that? - That's what they do now. - That is exactly what they do. You talk about a team epitomizing what their coach is and lockstep with their GM. - Oh, man. All right. - I may have to have more than one bloody merrywatch in that. (laughs) - 3-1-2-3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our telephone number. Let's go to the phone lines and talk to you. But for me, it's about 18. And the thing that's so disappointing cap, and there's plenty of plays that go over, but just how the defense is not the same as it once was, it's more than just missing a player cap or two. It's more than that. Because we can't spend all spring and summer saying, can't wait for this defense to come out there. Look how strong this defense is, and you can't get much of a pass rush. Again, there's some positives that we saw from SWEAD and from Walker on the defense, but the secondary also is a problem. It's more than just Brisker. It's more than that. - Well, yeah, it's more than Brisker being out. I would imagine he's done for the season. Who knows about his future? I'm talking about a brain injury here. That's number one. Number two, Tyreeks Stevenson looks awful. Since the Hail Mary play, he looks horrible. I don't know how that gets fixed or gets better. And then you don't still have enough up front. Billings is out, so you're not as stout up front. It's a big problem, big. - It's amazing that when you start losing ball games and it starts fraying at all the edges around the Chicago Bears, fraying around the edges, all of it. So now we're talking about an area that we thought was, okay, was decent. Not heard a lot about as far as the special teams and look at the special teams. That shouldn't have been a story yesterday. - Correct. - From DeAndre Carter to the block field, like that shouldn't be a story, but it was. So when you lose like this, now everything, now the water starts coming from all areas. - All sides. - All sides. - Correct. - So unfortunate. All right, let's go. Those are the phone lines to talk to you. 312-332-3776 our phone number. Andrew's in Arlington Heights. He's with us here on Captain J. Hood. Drew, good morning. - What's going on, boy? - What's up with you? - Man, cab, all it must be. I couldn't disagree with you more about Thomas Brown. I'll give you three logical reasons why. Number one, if you look at the best teams in the NFL, most of them have coaches that call the offensive plays. The Chiefs, the Rams, the Vikings. You throw the Eagles in there. I think if you have a chance for a guy like Thomas Brown, who is a Super Bowl champion, who's one with the Rams, their sister and head coach, that you can possibly get one of those guys who can also call players and lead a head coach collectively. You shouldn't let that guy lead the building. You should at least give him the chance. That's number one. - Wait, wait, making him the head coach? - Well, you see how the offense responded to him? Why not be in the rest- - Oh, hold on, I like Thomas Brown. I have said that. They scored 19 points last week. That would be enough to have won two games in the NFL. I mean, come on now. Let's stop. - Well, this week, what we just saw against the fourth best defense in the league, they got 27 points. - Okay, do we want to have a parade down State Street? - Had Caleb look better in the last two weeks than he looked in the first seven? - Well, he also had some elite weeks with Shane Waldron. The Jacksonville game was the best game he's played this year and the other team was Shane Waldron. So again, I like Thomas Brown. I think he's done a nice job pressed into duty, but let's stop anointing him as Bill freakin' Walsh. Sweet, mother of God. - Yeah, but you also, your connotation, or your, I guess, point that you want a coach with experience. Didn't John Fox have experience? Having the Bears hired people with experience with losing? Like when you want a guy-- - No, the Bears have hired one guy that has been a head coach before, and it was John Fox. Who, by the way, took two teams to the Super Bowl? So as much as I didn't like that higher, I thought he was at the end of his rope. I want a guy who has stood on the sidelines and made calls and helped people accountable, not a position coach. That's me. That's what I want. - You wouldn't prioritize being a champion over just being an NFL coach with experience? - Well, let's see. There are guys who have been a champion somewhere. Thomas Brown was the OC in Carolina. How'd that work out last year, one year? - But no wider receivers than barely any off the line. - So all you're doing is coming up with excuses. Those are-- - That's right. You've been so successful here. - Those are excuses. He hasn't been that successful here. We're all in two. We scored 19 points last week, again. - Has he the reason we lost? Is because our head coach doesn't know the importance of not giving us 15 yards of watching before he'll marry, or not knowing the importance of being-- - Again, you're missing my point. Yes, I like him. He's nice. Am I like, oh my God, we can't let Bill Walsh on the building? No. - You're acting like he could never do the job. - I never said that, Andrew. I never said that. I said I like him. I've been supportive of him. But oh my God, we can't let Bill Walsh out of the building? Come on, man. - We're preaching the phone call, Andrew. 3-1-2-3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our telephone number. You didn't ask me, but as I stated, that do you wanna have a third offensive coordinator for Caleb Williams in two seasons? That probably is gonna be the case. I like what Thomas Brown is doing, but Thomas Brown is doing exactly what we said and what we saw in the previous three wins in a row that the Bears had. And that is not trying to do too much, right? I thought that Caleb Williams was trying to do too much early in the season with that three-game winning streak, throwing it a tight end, throwing it to the wide receiver, just keeping the ball down the field. Jacksonville was his best game. This is a close second. And Thomas Brown, it was part of the success before Waldron was fired. I get that. But no one's throwing out Thomas Brown. We're just saying that, listen, two games does not make a head coach. Correct. It does not, correct. And the resume of him being a Super Bowl champion, that matters, yes. And no one's throwing him out the door, but the idea that he vaults right to the top of the list of head coaches that you want. Andrew, if you want him as a head coach, that's fine. That's the point. But everyone doesn't feel the way you feel. Everyone doesn't feel the way you feel. So I like that Caleb and Thomas Brown have a rapport. It doesn't make Thomas Brown the Lord Jesus at the top of the Chicago Bears chain. That's my point. After two games. That's my point. You really agree. Not only do you want to fire, if you're a flusen, you want Thomas Brown to be the owner, go right ahead. You do what you want. It's a dumpster fired the way it is. What I'm saying is, is that we're not ruling him out. We're just saying that that's not the top of the list. You want to coaches with experience? It's fine one. And someone that could last, not for three years or four years, someone in which you could be able to have an opportunity to win and for Caleb Williams to get better. Because ultimately, that's what's about. A rapport with the head coach and the offensive coordinator and the staff for Caleb to get better. That's the essential point for me. Look, if they're going to pay the money to go get Ben Johnson, who might have tell you he can't be a head coach? I don't know. He's a hell of an offensive coach. I'll tell you that. Me personally, I would like an existing head coach. Is there somebody out there that would make sense? Is Kyle Shanahan get fired? Sign me up. I don't care how much he wants. I do not care. I know what guys are making. Oh, aren't guys making 18, 20 million a year? The top guy? Whatever the cost would be. I don't care if there's eight teams that drive out to see him. I'm not leaving until I have a number that he will accept. I just think that as Bears fans, we're bent over and desperate for anything. And I don't think that the Bears just deserve anything. It's funny that when the Bears had their three game winning streak, they didn't even say, hey, you know what? Waldron should be the head coach of the football team. No, what they said was, is that the schedule was easy. Correct. They never said that Waldron should be the head coach. You're like, you know what? This offense is cooking. Maybe Waldron's never had that. But with Thomas Brown, a couple of losses and the offense looks good. Thomas Brown should be the head-- no, no. We can clean all this up and get better, hopefully as a franchise. Correct. All of it. Correct. 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 is our phone number on The Cap and Jay Hood Morning Show. Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap and Jay Hood are back on ESPN Chicago. Chicago's home for sports. One set to the right, three on the plate clock. Snap is back. Three man rush dropping a Caleb scanning, can't even say it in the pocket. Caleb's still looking for somewhere to go. Caleb backing up, trying to dodge a tag, where he can't do it and gets sacked. Threwing hard down to the ground back of the 18 yard line. The Vikings bringing that pressure. Jonathan Grinnard makes the sack, and it's a 12 yard variety. Jeff and Tom on the call right here on the home of the Bears, ESPN1000. 3, 1, 2, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 are really good yesterday. The passion in their voice. They're really good. I really enjoyed it. Talk to you about the Bears and their loss against the Minnesota Vikings in overtime 30 to 27. Let's go back to the phone lines and talk to you. Keith is in Evergreen Park, and he's with us on The Cap and Jay Hood Morning Show at Keith Good Morning. Good morning. How are you doing Keith? Not good, how are you? Good, good man. I got a question, two questions. Swift with the game first started. He jumps all five. The game's not even two minutes old yet. He jumps all five. Yeah. And then another one. If Jalen Johnson isn't the second coming up, Eddie Jackson, I don't know. As soon as he gets the money, just like Eddie Jackson, he says he can't do it. Let's stop. Let's stop with the money. The money and nothing to do it, and he's a damn good football player. Did he have a great day? He had two PIs. Guess what? Justin Jefferson wasn't running wild all day. OK, OK, but he just needs this. Just reminds me of Eddie Jackson. He's a way better player than Eddie Jackson. He can't guard anybody. That's a problem in the secondary, Keith. I mean, the thing that we thought that would hold up is now holding up. And the other thing, the same thing with the defensive line. Like, I thought there was some better. But again, on third down, you didn't get sacks. So that's-- you know, we don't get that pressure. That's not good. It's all coming apart. Definitely, most definitely. What's going on in Evergreen Park today, man? What's the rest of your day like? Well, actually, I'm retired, so I'm just taking each day one at a time. All right, God bless. Have a great Thanksgiving. Have a great Thanksgiving, Keith. That's awesome. OK, thank you, guys. All right, see? Sitting back, listening to the show. Chilling, having a cup of coffee. One day at a time. That's it. There you are, I like it. Good name for a TV show. And Indianapolis, NDS. And so it's how radio works. Cap is right. Great name for a TV show. Maybe base it in Indianapolis. That'd be awesome. Where Steve is, listening on the ESPN Chicago app. Hello, Steve. Hey, good morning, guys. Hey, this is just kind of a question I wanted to ask. If Caleb Williams continues to look comfortable in this-- under this new offensive coordinator, Brown, which he absolutely does, it seems like he gets rid of the ball quick, is very comfortable. Is it possible-- in today's NFL, and it's different, obviously, than back when Hallis made digga take on playing a bad buddy, Ryan. Is it possible that polls-- one of the caveats for the new head coach would be, hey, this offensive coordinator's got to stay. Or is that just not done these days? Or are you just cutting off your nose despite your face? I'm just interested in hearing what you guys have to say about that. Look, if there's the right guy out there, whoever that is, and that is the guy you want, that'll be a decision he has to make. There is no way that the Chicago Bears, if they go shop at the top shelf, as my partner likes to say, whether that's Mike Vrable or Ben Johnson, or whoever it is, there's no way they're going to force them, hey, we'll hire you, but you got to keep Thomas Brown not going to happen. No chance. Now, if you go get Mike Vrable, maybe Mike Vrable says, I'll take Thomas Brown as my offensive coordinator. That might be something. Or a Bill Belichick style. But if the right guy, Ben Johnson says, no, no, no. I'm bringing this dude with me. That's the way it works. Because, Steve, it sounds like to me, this is what you would consider, right? You think that Thomas Brown and Caleb Williams are fit. And you feel like the next head coach, you think that you should consider Thomas Brown because of the symmetry, correct? Yeah, that's correct. And I just am wondering if, back to what you guys are talking about. And I remember there's been one of my frustrations over the years. And I'm dating myself. But when Jake Cutler was quarterback, it seemed like we had a different offensive coordinator every year. And I know that if offensive coordinators are successful, they move on because they get head coaching positions. You got to have someone waiting in the wings. And I just didn't know if, let's say, Caleb Williams and the receivers say that, look, we want this guy. I think back when Buddy Ryan was kept as defensive coordinators, like everybody on defense said, we need to have this guy back. And that was something that George Hallis did. And I didn't know today's NFL. That's just unheard of. OK, Steve, you not need to work on something. You said he brought the color errands. I don't want to date myself. Was that the 1970s? Right. He was the quarterback of the 2000s. Will he not cap? Correct. It's funny, as you said that. And thanks for the call, Steve. I like Thomas Brown. I like how Caleb has looked for two weeks. And that all said, when you go on a coaching search and you go, that's the guy. We got to hire him. Whoever him is, you got to let him bring his own staff in. Maybe he wants Thomas Brown. Maybe he doesn't want Thomas Brown. But either way, you can't handcuff him. And before we anoint Thomas as the next Bill Walsh, let's see how we do in Detroit. Let's see how we do in Green Bay. Let's see how we do in Minnesota. Let's see how we do against the Niners. Let's see how we do against the Seahawks. And then at the end of the day, we could total it all up. Two weeks where you scored 19 and 27 lost both games. Had sideline miscommunication to get your fourth down play it. Let's let this all play out. OK? Yeah. I would say, Shay, go ahead. All I was going to say was, I think it just varies on the coach, right? I mean, if a new coach comes in and says, you know what? I like what Thomas Brown's doing. Let's keep it the way it is. But a lot more times than not, a guy wants his own staff. Well, I was just going to bring up his cat mentioned if it's a bell checker of Rabel's hype, an established guy. They might be more willing to keep him. I actually think it's the opposite. If with the caveat, if this continues and you hire a Ben Johnson type, I think it's way more likely Thomas Brown stays. Because Ben Johnson's probably calling plays anyway. So he might come in and go, I'm going to be the play caller. I'm happy to keep Thomas Brown in an offensive coordinator position where he's not calling plays because Caleb is comfortable with him. It's just another person in the building that your quarterback is already comfortable with. I think that's a smart move. But again, it depends on the coach. Depends on what the coach, a new coach would want. Whenever he refuses fired and there is a new coach in place, that coach to make his choice, whatever you feel comfortable with. Like if you're asking me, Cap, if you're asking me, what I would tell you is-- I'm asking you. If you're asking me, first of all, the conversation has to go to Caleb. You've lost two games with the offense. You seem like you're going back to the winning streak in which you're uncomfortable offensively. Could you work with Thomas Brown for five more years, six years? Do you have a good relationship? Is it just business? Is it business and personal? Because you'd want to know that. We don't want to force feed you someone you don't want to work with. So I mean, it's got to be to the quarterback first. I would ask him, like, what do you think? If I'm hired as a new head coach. Correct. But if this team finishes, what are they? Four and seven? They got six games left. Let's assume they win two. And they finish six and 11. Yep, OK. In the end, I got to fix the operation. And whoever that man is that I deem the next head coach, whether that is Belichick, Frable, Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan, or Shea, whoever it is, if I'm going to entrust you on a five-year $40 million contract or whatever it's going to cost, I've got to let you put your staff together. Or why am I hiring you? That's all a good point. 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 is our phone number. Sneak in one more. As we go to Lewis is in Homewood on the cap and Jhood Morning show, and Lewis, good morning. Hey, good morning. How you guys doing? How's it going? Cap, how's it going, hoodie? Oh, good man. Thanksgiving week, baby. All right, Lewis. Yeah. Yeah, I just want to say, man, poor player execution, again, two weeks in a row, special teams unit. You can't hit or get together on the 46-yard field goal. And the crazy thing is, last week in Green Bay before that block field goal, they hit a 53-yarder. So why is it, when you get in the 40-something yarders, you can't execute that? So that's kind of confusing to me. And last but not least, Jalen Johnson, man, two weeks in a row of poor, poor execution, getting your feet crossed up. He was responsible for two touchdowns last week, especially the go-ahead touchdown by your love, because he blew the assignment on Watson. That was egregious. And then this week, the huge pass in affairs on Jefferson. And then after that, the TD by Addison, that was him again, getting his feet crossed up. So I understand evil foods have to go. I get that. But at the same time, man, even million dollar players, they got to get it together. And they got to play better, man, because a lot of them are costing us gains. Take care, guys. Have a great week. All right, Louis, we appreciate the telephone call. We've got more as we move forward here on The Captain J. Hood Morning Show. Mrs. Cap and J. Hood, they beat in the traffic commute, so you don't have to-- [MUSIC PLAYING] [INAUDIBLE] On ESPN, Chicago-- First, a 10-day motion. Mercedes-Louis Redstar on the line. Tight bunch formation. They're run blitzing. They make the hand off, and they toss left. Hit is caught up the field quickly, 40-45. DJ in midfield. DJ Moore with an in-cut on the Viking at the 40. Twisted and turning him in the knots, and goes down at around the 33-yard line of Minnesota. DJ Moore with some nifty outside running and a quick throw. [MUSIC PLAYING] Jeff and Tom on the call right here on the home of the Bears. ESPN 1,000. Don't forget, on Thanksgiving Day, we'll have the Bears and the Lions tune in on Thursday, with all day coverage right here. On your home for the Bears, ESPN 1,000. 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 6 to our phone number. I'm going to get to some overreactions from this weekend. The NFL, but first, let's go back to the phone lines and talk to you. We have talked to you about the Bears, and where I am as a Bears fan is 18. That's where I am. Number 18, 32 for 47, good for 340 yards and two touchdowns for number 18, Caleb Williams. That's where my attention is right now with this Bears team, because you know where the season's going. Right into the toilet again. Underwhelming, underachieving, no guts, no glory. This is Chicago Bears football right now. An opportunity to win the football game against Green Bay a couple weeks ago. Another opportunity to win the football game here. And just let me just tell you, we're adults with a mortgage. There is no more moral victories for the Chicago Bears. Enough of this. Like, you knew this was coming. We all saw the schedule said, oh, soft schedule early before you get to the conference. And guess what? We blanked the bed even with teams that were supposed to beat. Like, we could say that the season was over against Washington, but that Patriots game put a bullet right through the Bears' heart right there. No question about it, because you're supposed to win that football game. And so here you are right now at 4 and 7. So enjoy. The Bears are right back to where they were, a square one. And now you're headed to Detroit. So good luck. Oh, oh, yeah. But you saw the schedule, we saw it coming. We did. We saw it coming, like, probably when you give away the Colts game with horrible play calling at the goal line. And then you give away the Washington game. And then you get a field goal blocked in the Green Bay game. And then you muffle pun at your own 15 yard line in the Minnesota game. That'll be all. Guess what it is? And there's more talent on this roster than they're showing. They're just hit. Paul is in Deerfield on a cap in Jhood. Paul, good morning. Good morning, guys. Love the show, a regular listener. Cap, I've known you for many, many years since your former life at the other radio station. And it's great to see you. And I follow you guys all the time. So appreciate you. You are GCI. Tune in. So in the art of transparency, I'm a born and raised Detroiter, so my loyalty is fiercely why I would Detroit sports teams, kind of Chicago team, secondarily. So I could be totally objective on them. And to provide a glimmer of hope for a franchise that's been such a train wreck over all these years, also known as Detroit Lions, they finally got their act together. And I'm curious, like, what prompted the shift that Sheila Hamp Ford lit? You know, it's still the Ford family. But, you know, she got it right. And she hired the right general manager. They hired the right head coach. They hired the right offensive coordinators. And they built the team correctly from the trenches. And it sounds very trite. But it's clearly what the bears incorrectly and didn't do. And that's just one of the things that lead to my question. Why is Ryan Paul still in the honeymoon phase? And when does that end? When does he start being responsible for this train wreck that is the Chicago Bears? I mean, the Carolina Panthers' fleece was a giant triumph. But that currency has to start running out at some point. And when does people start looking at Ryan Paul's? You know, when does his seat start getting warm? And then the other question is, when is Kevin Warren going to appear in any context outside of the stadium development? I mean, they have serious foundational issues that are becoming crises. And so those are my two questions. I'd love for your guys. Well, my question for you would be, why should Paul's? And again, when you're 4 and 7 and lose 5 in a row, everybody is going to be under scrutiny. But you don't think Paul's has done a reasonably good job rebuilding a roster. And it's less than three years ago that he was hired. It'll be January. It'll be three years. Tour the roster down. And two years later, he's got a team that if they would, as I said, made a field goal, not giving up the Hail Mary, all of a sudden, they're a playoff team. I do. But then my question is, he has to own the decision to keep Eber Flus from last year. Do you think his bosses were letting him buy out three years of Eber Flus? Because I don't. I don't know. But I think it's a question needs to be thought about. And I guess the key question is, how soon is it going to be corrected? And I think it's going to be correct. Fair, fair. Let me just say this. And Paul, we appreciate it. Thanks, Paul. Appreciate you. I've always thought that that polls would have two coaches that he could generally manage. It'll be this first one, which is going to turn out to be an A to B coach. It's exactly who I thought Eber Flus was when he first got here an A to B coach. And he would have a second coach at the minimum. And I think that that's going to happen next year. The seat is hot on Ryan polls because for me-- and I'm just speaking for me as a Bears fan cap-- that when you lose, it's on everybody. I don't do blame pie, especially with the Chicago Bears. I do not. I know many fans do because they feel like the players are their kids and that the players are-- they can't help but that they're not playing well. Because they're not coached well. Well, coaching's part of it, but also it's on the players too. Again, a veteran latent team that can't get out of its own way can't catch key passes on second and third down for Caleb Williams who's on a roll. So it's on Ryan polls too. He will have another coach. And if that doesn't work out, he'll be fired as well. But the idea that Ryan polls and Matt Eber Flus and the whole kid in Kaboodle will be out of house hall at the end of the season, that's not happening because the general manager is going to get a second coach. And hopefully he'll be able to get it right. I don't want this show or people to think that this show is just, well, it's all on Eber Flus. It's all on the players and not on Ryan polls. No, it's all of it. It's all of it because it's on-- Yeah, it's on polls, choices as well. I want to make sure that's very clear. Shay, do you have something that we can look at as far as the NFL? Something where we could say this is interesting. Some overreactions, perhaps? Maybe some overreactions. You have something like that. I do. Bring them on. I think people are going to like one of them. OK. The Washington commanders are going to miss the playoffs. And it is all to do with the Cliff Cliff. Through week nine, the Washington commanders had the number one offense in football by EPA. In the last three weeks, their offense ranks 25th. This, you can say, three-week sample size dude, relax. Actually, though, it tracks with Cliff Kingsbury's career. In 2020, his second season in Arizona, the Cardinals ranked sixth in offense of EPA through week nine. Week 10 on, 22nd. How about 2021? The Cardinals ranked first in offense of EPA through week nine. Week 10 on, bottom half of the league, and he lost his job. This is what Cliff Kingsbury does. September, October, God, November, December, pumpkin. That was a real stat. There. No, it was a jet. It was like this in Arizona, too. Like, in Arizona, the same thing. Shay starts fast and then ends in tragedy. And I don't understand that. It's almost like, hey, could you just code from September, October, and then we'll hand it over to someone else? That's what's happening in Washington. Just make our young quarterback comfortable for two months, and then we'll let a real play caller do the job. Yeah. It's not only the play caller, people in Arizona that I've talked to couldn't stand him as a head coach. Yeah, but sexy. Shay? I'd also miss a little bit to do with Jayden Daniels. And, Cap, you said it earlier, I think it was wrong kind of the way that he got hyped up. He's probably just a regular rookie quarterback, and he got a little overhyped early on. And now he's paying the invoice of that, because people are going to start looking at him like he's a bum if this keeps going the way it is. One big playmaker, McClaren. But then, if you notice, Shay, and it just is just the eye test just watching the games early, it was five-yard passes, two, six-yard passes, two. It was what Caleb was doing. Yep. And so now it's falling off the tracks. Everybody wants Jayden Daniels now over Caleb Williams? Here's the point. Every rookie has ebbs and flows. That's all. They're going to make mistakes. There's going to be ups and downs, and the downs right now is for Daniels, because the team's losing, and the offense isn't moving very much. Doesn't mean that he sucks. It just means that, again, he's going through the growing pains. Still might have an injured rib. Who knows? He might. All right, Shay, give us another overreaction. Joe Shane should never be allowed to generally manage an NFL team, again, as long as he lives. I'm going to offer you his resume. Like, if he wants to be an assistant GM somewhere, sure. Special assistant to the assistant, I'm good with it. If he wants to get the general manager coffee, fine. But actually, be a GM. Here's what he's done in New York. He extended Daniel Jones for $40 million a year, a decision that he said two weeks ago, no rag rats. We're all good. It's exactly what I would do today if afforded the opportunity to make the decision again. I know, Cap, you're mouthing rag rats. Watch a movie. It's a joke. All right, let's keep going. Joe Shane also then made Daniel Jones the third string quarterback, and then scout team safety before ultimately releasing him mid-season. Paid Drew Locke $6 million a year to be the backup. Went over Drew Locke, doesn't play him once he benches the starter. And then add to it, the $6 million a year is the money that could have been used to retain Sake 1 Barkley and Xavier McKinney. Now you're sitting on two and nine, 17, 21, 27, and one overall in the embarrassment that was hard knocks off season. You're done. - That's pretty much it. Pretty much it. - Good. - The Giants are a dumpster fire. And then of course, Shane, we saw what happened in the after birth, right? In the locker room yesterday. Said the Malik neighbors. - Oh, he went off. - Going after everybody. - Yeah. - And then you saw the news this morning. Chefter tweeted it. The Jets have announced they are retaining the 30 third team. You know, that group to help them pick their next head coach in VIA. - What a disaster. Like, really? Have you seen the Aaron Rodgers stuff that he wants to be released from the team and the Jets may caught him? - And now he's saying, you know, I've been hurt, but I don't want to take a scan because that would just show up for everyone to see. But I've really been hurt, but I don't want to take a scan. You see out of his mind. - So, wait a minute. If they released him, like some team has an issue in the playoffs, he could write in and play, right? - I'm getting my where the Miller's tattoo, by the way, after the show. - Thank you. Hoodie, thank you for understanding. (laughing) - I have no idea what you guys were talking about. - I'm glad you got it. I saw a cap like, what's Radgrids? - Yeah. This is from the movie cap. - What movie? - Where are the Miller's? - I've never heard of it. - The guy gets tattooed across his neck. No Radgrids, he had its spelled wrong. - Never heard of the movie. - Damn. - Sorry, we're done with that, or? (laughing) All right. (laughing) - I have one more. I'll save it for Don't Be Surprised if perhaps. (groaning) - We have one more. All right. But let me tell you, Cap, you and I, not happy about what's going on with the bears. - No. - But you don't have a wide receiver. We don't have a wide receiver, by the way, that's just taking a sledgehammer to the organization. And chewing gum while doing it, and neighbors. - Crush it. - Not good. - I don't know. - We've got it bad. - I don't know, as day ball, I don't know. I don't know, I didn't get the ball, I don't know. What? (laughing) Oh God. Geez, what a mess up there. - Mess. - Hey, not saying that the bears don't. I'm just saying that you don't have people on the record saying it like that. You because the bears are more passive aggressive than the giants are, or the jets are, maybe. But just. You know a bad organization when you see one, Cap. 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(laughing) - This player. - Rob the brother. - It's all there, yes. - Got them all. - Can't be early, Thanksgiving guys. - You too, buddy. - Who are you? - Who's this talking, who is this? Who is this? - This is Rob, the rich guy from Sugarland. - Are you listening on the ESP in Chicago app? - Yes, I am sir. - Well, welcome to the show, Rob. - Appreciate that, Mr. Hoodie. Several things quickly. Bears had 10 points through three quarters on Sunday. Let's hold the talk on Thomas Brown with things playing out. He walks out the building at the end of the season. I don't think there's gonna be a long line up. People looking harm as a head coach. - Damn. - Secondly, that stench of Iberfluze needs to get out the building sooner rather than later with giving the Lane Kippen treatment on Thursday and Lee Montantar Mack. And lastly, did Eddie from the north side of Minneapolis calling yet to critique how Sam Darnell is that much better than Caleb Williams? - He did not call this morning. - Yeah, no. - I miss his critique. I like what he calls in about Caleb. - Sure. - His favorite quarterback is whoever the Bears are playing against. So, I think he might still be high from the Calico concert he went to before the season started. - Wow. - Thank you. - Anyway. - Thank you, Rob, and happy Thanksgiving. 46 pre-snapped penalties by the Bears that's second in the National Football League. It is amazing. You're trying to drive at the end of the second quarter and Darnell Wright moves on the right side. Just an absolute fail. - Fail. - Just just, this is all I'm talking about. It's a whole bunch of things, but just, that's just one of many issues with this team. The reason why they're free falling right now in the NFC North. 46 pre-snapped penalties. The offensive line actually not really a major factor, a major storyline, the last couple of games because Caleb's getting the ball out, but just little things like that. It's, look, everything as you said at the start of the show, it is all about 18. By the way, wellness jack had Courtney Cronin. - That was a ass kicking. - Oh, sorry. - Whew. - I mean, you know me, I'm a buck guy all the way. - Oh, you are. (laughing) - Stay. - Yep. I'm a buck guy. - Oh yeah. - And I was a happy man on Saturday watching that game. I just wanna make sure my friend Courtney's okay. - We thank you for listening and calling in and being part of the program. - Bless him. - Ask him. - All right, thanks to you for listening. Thanks to Shea and Jay Moore. Let's do it tomorrow at seven o'clock. - Let's do it. Have a great rest of your Monday. - So long, everybody. - Take that. - From Chicago, Lee Allen. - What's going on, fellas? I don't know, we're gone.