JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick

JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick ~ November 22, 2024 ~ Full Show

November 22, 2024 ~ JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick On this episode: Chris learns about a new way that China is hacking in to our technology; finds out about a new Republican plan for Michigan's roads and asks about new pop up shops coming to Michigan Central.

Duration:: 1h 12m
Broadcast on:: 25 Nov 2024
Audio Format:: other

Well, come in happy Friday. It is good to have you. And we've got another busy show today. Um, let's start with the Matt Gaetz news. And then we'll, we'll move forward with who now Donald Trump has nominated for attorney general. So Matt Gaetz says he does not plan to rejoin Congress. He has no intention of being sworn in to the next Congress, the 119th Congress, I believe. Um, and I think it's led some to speculate as to why I think it's led some to speculate. Um, uh, what comes next for Matt, Matt Gaetz, because there is the notion that potentially Matt Gaetz is worried that this, uh, House ethics committee report comes out and it's damaging. Uh, but he did tell Charlie Kirk on his podcast. I'm still going to be in the fight. It's just going to be from a new perch. I do not intend to join the 119th Congress. Now, I think those words might be specific because, you know, we had a caller yesterday calling it. It wasn't something that I had even thought of, but if Matt Gaetz decides to step down, doesn't get the AG nod or, or wasn't going to find the votes, then was it possible that maybe Ron DeSantis takes, takes Matt Gaetz and moves him to Marco Rubio's vacated Senate seat all a possibility. But I think when he says he does not intend to join the 119th Congress, it's Congress as a whole. It's not, I won't be in the house. I don't plan on taking my old job back. He says he has no intention of joining the 119th Congress. So maybe some specific words there. Uh, meanwhile it broke last night that after Matt Gaetz withdrew his name from contention for attorney general, Donald Trump has nominated Pam Bondi as his new pick for attorney general. She of course was the chief law enforcement officer, as attorney general for Florida. Uh, she's 59 years old. She's been a long time Donald Trump ally. And, um, this is somebody that the Trump campaign, I believe a campaign, the Trump, uh, administration, this transition team is, uh, is excited for. And she was on Trump's opioid and drug abuse commission. Uh, back in the day, she provided some legal assistance to Donald Trump at different points, uh, as well. So this is somebody who they are very excited for. And of course, the left is not, uh, but that's, uh, kind of part and parcel for, for these situations. Uh, meanwhile, Danielle, I know that you're, uh, Danielle's in the, uh, in the Canton area. And I believe there is a, um, uh, uh, like, uh, sheets out there. One of the, the new, uh, um, like, it's like, uh, uh, all service type of gas station. Yeah, and Romulus. Okay. And Romulus. All right. So it's like, uh, it's like a one stop shop. You can go and you can get food. They make fresh food. They've got all kinds of drinks and whatever. They're, they're, they're a fun place, right? It's like, um, well, I mean, pump the braids. Well, that's big, but yes. But yes, in a, in a, in a sense, uh, sheets is, uh, it's a great place. And now I believe that they have cleared a major, a major hurdle in Farmington Hills. Uh, and so there will be a sheets coming to Farmington Hills, which is pretty cool. The Farmington Hills Planning Commission approved a sheets location. Um, and look, of course you can't please everybody, right? It's going to go in the 12 and middle belt area. Um, people are saying that it's, you know, 12 and middle boats are very busy area. It's a very busy area. And people are saying that it's, it's not the right spot. It's going to cause massive amounts of congestion. And it's, it's going to be, um, more of a headache than a, than a, than an addition to the community. But again, um, you can't please everybody, but I think a lot of people are going to be excited for a sheets in the, uh, in the Farmington Hills community. And it's, it's very much on par if you're familiar with like, um, uh, uh, Wawa out on the east coast, like in, uh, in the Philadelphia area. That's a, that's another big one. And yeah, uh, Brian, you mentioned, uh, you mentioned Bucky's, um, very similar, uh, very similar type of, uh, type of place. Yeah, I've never been to one, but I've heard it's not the same scale, but it's the same sort of idea. Not the same scale, certainly not the same scale, but they've just got a ton of stuff. So it's cool. Uh, meanwhile that a trade police board has developed a new accountability dashboard for citizen complaints. WJR senior news analysts, Marie Osborne, uh, will have a look at that coming up in the three o'clock hour, but Australia in the meantime, going hard line when it comes to teens using social media. The country is looking at potentially banning kids from social media all together. Marie Osborne joins us to take a look at that story. Hi, Marie. This is raising eyebrows around the world. In fact, Chris, the country's communications minister has introduced the world's first law into parliament that would ban kids under 16 from social media lawmakers saying online safety was one of parents toughest challenges these days. TikTok, Facebook, uh, Facebook, Snapchat, Reddit, X, Instagram were among the platforms that could face up to 50 million Australian dollars at 33 million in US dollars for systemic failures to prevent kids from holding accounts under this ruling. There would be, uh, not be age restrictions placed on messaging service though and online games or platforms. The students still could be able to do those. In addition to removing kids under 16 from social media, Australia is also looking for ways to prevent children under 18 from accessing online pornography. Now, ex-owner Elon Musk had something to say about this as you can imagine. He warned that Australia intended to go further posting on his platform seems like a backdoor way to control access to the internet by all Australians. The bill has wide political support and after it becomes law, the platforms would have one year to work out how to implement this age restriction and government research Chris found that 95% of Australian caregivers found online safety to be one of their toughest parenting challenges. Look, I, I try very hard not to be get off my long guy in this situation. I try not to be an old curmudgeon. I try to put myself in these kids shoes now. Um, but seeing what I see on social media, it is a cesspool. It is, it is not a productive place to be, especially if you're, you know, like, look, we all are guilty of it. The doom scrolling, you're just scrolling and scrolling, it's growing next thing. You know, it's been 45 minutes and you're like, what have I done with my life? So it's a, it's a tough spot. And then all of the, the mental health side effects that come with particularly young girls and seeing other people and how they compare and it, I don't want to be like, Hey, let's ban this for kids. But I feel like just like the gut feeling I have is it's got to be more beneficial to just take it out of their hands. They can't have it. And then when they're, you know, of age, they can, they can go ahead and use it. Right. It makes it also easier for parents because, you know, kids are going to fight their parents over something like this. You know, you should be on that. But this way, you can just, you know, it's the, it's the law. And when you talk about kids, let's face it, they are impressionable. That was a word, you know, our parents used and we would roll our eyes. But now that we're parents, we know they are very impressionable. Well, and if you go back, like, when I graduated high school, when I was in high school, was right when Facebook was coming out. So when I was a senior, I couldn't have a Facebook. And it wasn't, it wasn't a parent parental edict. It was, I didn't have a college email back then, you would be in college to to utilize Facebook. So I mean, there is something to it, I think. Yeah, exactly. So we'll see how this goes in Australia. Yeah, interesting. All right, Marie, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right, we'll take a break coming up on the other side. It's the worst hack in US history that you probably haven't even heard of. We'll talk about an excellent year afternoon. So what US intelligence official told the Washington Post that this salt typhoon hack is the worst telecom hack in our nation's history by far. It's a Chinese government espionage campaign that has penetrated more than a dozen US telecommunications companies. They were able to hack into the phones of both Donald Trump and JD Vance and hack into the phones of people who were working on the Harris campaign. Now, according to to lawmakers that that wasn't necessarily election related, but they are very much still, their talents are still very much in much of our telecommunication systems. Let's bring in Ellen Nakashima. She's the national security reporter for the Washington Post and joins me this afternoon. Ellen, it's great to have you. I shudder to think how bad this really truly is. Yeah, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Senator Mark Warner, is very alarmed and wants the American public to know that this is, in his view, the worst telecom hack in the nation's history, as you pointed out. The US government, the intelligence agencies, FBI, they're still investigating the matter to figure out just how broadly and deeply all of these telecom companies were penetrated, whether there are others that still haven't been discovered, that I've been compromised. It's unclear how much data they were able to exfiltrate. They are still inside the networks, not clear how active they are at the moment and whether they're just lying in weight, weighing quietly to do more exfiltration when people aren't looking. But it is a very serious and surprising shocking development for the government. So according to the FBI in your piece, which I would point people to, it's a lot of really good information about this. There have only been 150 people or so that have been notified by intelligence officials that there was a problem. But I mean, this goes back to, in some cases, more than a year ago, was our intelligence aware of this? And if they weren't aware of it when it happened initially, when did they become aware that there was something really wrong here? I think the US government became aware that this was a really serious matter, really only in late September. Industry notified them in the fall. There might have been some efforts to notify earlier, but in terms of really starting to focus in on it, that didn't really happen until September and late September. Now, you mentioned that fewer than 150 people have been identified and notified by the FBI. That's true. Right now, the known scope of the victims set, those who've actually had their phones compromised, is fewer than 150. But the records of all of these people who, the people that these individuals called or texted could well have been stolen by the Chinese hackers, and those records amount to the millions Senator Warner said, and that number could go up. Was there a specific target here? Was there a particular goal in mind by these Chinese hackers? What were they trying to get into? What were they looking for and what are they gotten? Yeah, clearly they were focused at least initially on public government officials at the State Department. Those who focused on the China policy area, politicians, public figures, obviously people like Vice President Harris, President, then candidate for President Trump, Donald Trump and his running mate, tested to sort of get in and see what they can learn about these public figures, and should they become the next President of the United States, what their views are like, what their who they're talking to, what who's in their orbit. These are all people of great interest to Chinese policymakers and leaders, and in a sense, that's a traditional espionage target. The Chinese have been doing this kind of espionage for years and years, but the way in which they're going about it now is very, is brazen and very shocking to the teles of itself too. Is there a real worry that there is a national security breach here, obviously, when you get into the phones of a presidential candidate and then a president elect and his running mate, that's a problem, but is there a worry that our national security is at risk because of this attack? Because the hackers have not yet been booted out of the system, and because they had such deep access to the networks, that is, indeed, a national security threat, and one that is so concerning that the government has set up, in fact, a special task force group, crisis group, really, to investigate or coordinate investigation, to make sure they're on top of that, and it's something they do only in really severe cases. So, you know, this is still something that they're far from fully understanding. Is there a concern or, I guess, any sort of worry at all that if these telecommunications have been hacked, they're in people's phones, potentially, or their laptops or their iPads, whatever it is, is there a concern that these devices are going to need to be replaced? Are they going to have to be wiped? Like, what's the concern for people's actual devices that they hold in their hands or that they have? Well, people who have been targeted in their devices, I'm sure, have been, I know, personally, people who have had to replace their devices, right? They're not using the ones that were hacked, and as I said, it's not clear right now how active the hackers are. Right now, it doesn't appear to be the sort of campaign that's meant to be disruptive or consistent sabotage, you know, like making things shut down or blow up. It was really, it seemed more to be focused around collecting information, espionage, power espionage. But once you're inside the network, you know, you have access, so there's still a lot to be understood about the way in which they got in and how they're moving and what more they might have access to without us understanding that. Senator Warner, who you spoke with at length as a main contributor in your piece at the Washington Post, he talked about the colonial pipelines, the solar winds, cyber hacks that were that were incredibly disruptive. And he says that this attack makes those look like child's play. And you mentioned that they don't really understand the full scope of it now. So what's next for the intel as they continue to probe and try to find out how bad this really is? They really still need to know exactly how the hackers got in and where and where and how they moved around and what other victims or companies might be, might be effective to include other companies overseas. Warner, Senator Warner mentioned this was a global effort and the Chinese are active, in fact, globally. And though this is not directly related to this other campaign called vote typhoons, they do have another campaign meant to pre-position themselves inside critical infrastructure assets like ports and pipeline around the world. I just have 30 seconds left here. Is there any sort of of response to this by the Biden administration or the federal government yet? Well, yes, they've announced publicly that they are investigating that they are considered this so severe. They set up the White House set up this, they call it unified coordination group like a sort of a crisis task force to coordinate the investigation into this. And you I quoted some other officials saying that it's time to maybe start looking at some form of regulation of the telecom industry. So that you might look for that happening in the coming months. Interesting. A really interesting piece and certainly problematic but really well outlined. Alan Nakashima, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate your piece on this. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, 80859-0957-800859-0WJR. If you want to weigh in on that, it's there for you. In the meantime, we'll take a break. Come back for more here on JR Afternoon. All right, 80859-0957-800859-0WJR. I do want to just throw this into the mix because I told you, what was it yesterday, the day before that Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan DA, overseeing Donald Trump's hush money case, was content on basically shelving Donald Trump's sentencing until after it gets out of office. And I don't think that we have to be legal experts to tell you that there is no precedent for that. I mean, the fact that Donald Trump was in the case in the first place, you could view that as being unprecedented. But then he wins the presidency and everybody seems content on not moving forward with sentencing. But Alvin Bragg suggesting that, well, we'll just wait four years. And when he gets out, we'll, we'll sentence him then. Was a pretty wild way to go about it. Well, now Judge, Judge Juan Marchon has adjourned Donald Trump's sentencing, which was scheduled for next week, which I don't think is a total surprise. He also though agreed to hold off on issuing his decision on presidential immunity until after the parties file their their next rounds of motions, including Donald Trump's motion to request to dismiss the case altogether. Judge Juan Marchon wants that on December 2nd. That's the deadline. And then, and then after that, Alvin Bragg will have a week to respond to it. The Trump team, the Trump legal team, wanted December 20th as the date to file that paperwork, but they get it 18 days earlier. In a, in a, in a statement, Stephen Chung, the spokesman for Donald Trump, called Marchon's decision a decisive win for the president elect. And there has been no new sentencing date put into place. So he, he postponed next week, and nothing has been now put on the books. But this has been a quite a turnaround for Donald Trump. And, and obviously, the, the presidential win is a big factor in this. I would argue that this is just all about the next steps of dismissing these cases that they just will go away. I, I have a hard time believing that even Judge Juan Marchon, as he can consider his presidential immunity based on what the Supreme Court ruled, that, that even he would say that shelving this thing would be, it's unprecedented. There's, there's no way to go about this. And then, of course, now you're getting other courts involved to see if it's even legal. So it's, it's a, a very interesting dynamic in Manhattan. But look, at the end of the day, none of this matters. Donald Trump will be sworn in as president at his inauguration on January 20th. And, and certainly a shielded from all of these cases that have ebbed and flowed up and down. And, and, um, I think the consensus among many legal experts is that this is kind of the, the trajectory of these cases going away. So if you want to hit on that, that's there for you to 8085 90957 squad to marble head catch up with Danny kicks us off today. What's up, Danny? Hey, Chris, what's happening, tell? Hey, Hey, what's going on? I just, I wanted to ask you, where do you think all those chips for our cell phones and the telecom companies, where are they made at? Well, over the last many years, Taiwan, Korea, certainly China plays a big role in all of those. So do you think that those hacking programs were built in right at the factory? Hmm. I don't know. I, you know, you know, I, I, I would say probably not. Um, because you're bringing in, well, I mean, you would be inviting in a whole other issue for companies that buy these chips to put them in their products to sell to Americans. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. It's hard for me to definitively say no, but I think that, go ahead. Kind of suspect, isn't it? It's suspect. Look, I don't, I don't think it's, uh, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. I just think that, um, for these companies to then put those chips in our products and then sell them to us, they wouldn't, I mean, I guess, maybe they wouldn't know, but I would think that they would be doing a lot of vetting to make sure that that's not a capability of the chips. But here, I guess here's my other. Yeah. I mean, here's my other part. Uh, Denny, and this is what troubles me more. Um, you know, one of the things that I hit with Ellen Nakashima from the Washington Post was, you know, lawmakers are saying and Intel officials are saying, well, we need, we need reforms to our telecommunications laws. Like we need to make sure that, that there is much more security in that area. And I'm all for that. I'm all for that. I guess my question is why hasn't that already been done? Like if, if, if, if you have these systems that connect to, uh, you know, they spiderweb all over the place, right? They'll connect to a server. They'll connect to the network. They'll connect to, to the companies that are providing these service, uh, these, these, uh, these objects, these items. And it's like, at the end of the day, if we know that there's, it's, it's one to A to B, B to C, C to D, it's like, why haven't we already addressed this? This seems like that's a vulnerability. Anyway, it should have been addressed already. So I don't know. I don't know. It's, it's, it's problematic. And the other part of this too, that's troublesome is like, I mean, we haven't heard about this. This has been relatively kept, you know, this has been kept under, under wraps for quite some time. I mean, a number of months. And, and now they're kind of, they're unwinding this spool of yarn. And it's like, oh, it goes back even further. Oh, it's even longer. And, and oh, 150 people have been alerted. And they're, you know, they're, they're, their devices have needed to be, you know, gone through a magnet. It's like, it's, it's really scary when, when we're talking about the, the breath of this hack and what it potentially means. And the government doesn't even really know yet how deep it is, or how intrusive it is, or how serious it is. That, that to me is an issue. That to me is an issue. It's, it's an issue whether you've got a balloon floating over your head. And you're like, well, maybe it's just a weather balloon. And it's like, no, it's a, it's a spy device that's flying over military bases in, you know, the Mountain West. That's a problem. Um, and, and the fact that we just kind of didn't know about it, or the fact that they were able to trojan horse themselves into our telecommunication systems. Yeah, it's a problem. It is a, it's a huge issue. And whether or not it's the chips, I don't know, I can't say no, but, but this seems like a, a coordinated attack to get into these systems and then get into people's phones. Um, it's a, it's, it's certainly problematic. Denny, I appreciate you, my friends. Go to Winston in Williamson. What's up, Winston? Um, home company for quite a while. And they found that, uh, there was a Chinese manufacturer that had a backweight door built into their equipment that nobody knew about, and that the, networks didn't know. So they forced that company to stop selling equipment in America. Yeah, so that's kind of what Denny was saying. Like, is there an issue with the chips that are being put into these devices? Not the chips. That was the home, the, uh, hope, like they build a board for it and put it out to the telecommunication company. And they didn't know about the back door into it or the networks. So, so who, how did they find that out? You said you worked for a telecommunications company, but how did, how did they find out that that is the issue? I don't know how they found that out, but they, uh, told the company that they could not sell their equipment in America anymore. Wow. And so that was in the news. So yeah, if you look back, you'll find it in the news. Yeah. All right. Winston, I appreciated my friend. Thank you. Uh, yeah, it's, it is troublesome. And again, kind of the fact that we haven't heard about it, right? Kind of the fact that it's been, it hasn't been reported. And, and again, I think part of it is because they just didn't realize they didn't realize a that it was happening, which is problematic. B, they still don't understand how big it is, which is also problematic, but they just keep peeling back the layers of that onion. And they just keep finding more and more and more and more. And then I think you arrived to the point where Mark Warner, the Senator from, from Virginia is like, yeah, this is, this is without a doubt of the biggest telecom hack in US history. And it's, it's not even particularly close. It's, it's troublesome. We'll keep an eye on it. All right. We'll take a break. Come back for more here on Jay afternoon. All right. We'll get back to your calls here in just a second, 800-859-0957, 800-8590-WJ. Just a couple of things to, to put on your radar as, as we are now, certainly in the holiday, holiday season, the holiday, move the whole deal. Soring Eagle Casino in Mount Pleasant is opening a Johnny Rockets this week, which is a, a great spot at the casino. They've got great burgers, greats, chicken sandwiches. They've got shakes, fries, the whole deal. Johnny Rockets is fantastic. So once you win a couple of bucks at the, the Blackjack table, you go over, you get yourself a burger. It's a, it's a great spot, a lot of fun, kind of a retro kind of vibe. It's great. And it is open Sunday through Thursday, 8 a.m. to 11 p.m. And Friday and Saturdays from 8 to 2 a.m. The Johnny Rockets is on the main floor at Soring Eagle Casino. So it's, it's a perfect spot. I can't wait to hit it. We like to go up to Soring Eagle a couple of times a year. And if there's Johnny Rockets there, it's fantastic. Um, meanwhile, we're, we're wrapping out a couple of different things. Um, this idea of a huge telecom pack is problematic. And it, it feels like we don't actually even know what the problems are and how deep they go. Um, if you missed my conversation with Ella Nakashima with the Washington Post, um, I would, uh, head on over to wj.com. You can take a listen to it, but this salt Thai food is being called the worst telecom hack in our nation's history. And I think that that, uh, it speaks enough when, again, they don't even know the extent of how deep this actually goes. Also, uh, Donald Trump and his case out of Manhattan, um, Alvin Bragg wanted to, to basically put it on ice. You know, when I go to Costco and I buy a couple of steaks, I don't cook them all at once. I put them in the freezer till when I, when I need them, you know, down the road, it's basically what Alvin Bragg wanted to do with this case. Just put it on ice. We'll just wait. Donald Trump gets out of office in four years, then we'll go ahead and, uh, and, and sentence him to the, to the crimes that he was found guilty of by a jury of his peers. Um, there's no precedent for that. So a couple of things we're rapping about. And now, uh, Judge Juan Marcheon, uh, has agreed to accept Donald Trump's motion to dismiss the case. Trump teams got a file that by December 2nd. Then the Bragg office will have an opportunity to submit their counter and we'll go from there, but many people, legal experts believe that this is kind of the, the motions to, to move these, these cases out. Meanwhile, uh, something really cool coming to Michigan central, uh, this holiday season, uh, new retail activations are coming, essentially pop ups. And there's a whole host of the different ones that are, are going to be available to you if you want to, uh, you know, get a couple of things for Christmas or Hanukkah or whatever. Uh, James Morello is the founder of Trading Post and, uh, he joins me here this afternoon. James, it's great to have you. Thank you so much. I'd love to hear just kind of how you got involved in, in bringing all these activations to Michigan central because we're very excited about it. Yeah. So I've been working with, um, producing makers markets across the country for about 10 years. Um, and, uh, mostly pop ups and then recently, uh, since COVID started opening, uh, brick and mortar versions of my marketplaces and doing them at a pretty large scale. So when, uh, Michigan central was ready to activate, they reached out to me because they knew that I was used to, um, doing things very quickly and had a huge roster of creatives and different parts of the country. And so I was their man and I'm so privileged to be able to work with them. So tell me a little bit about what we can expect out at Michigan central. Well, there's lots of retail. There's fault. There's a coffee shop. There's the official Michigan central, uh, souvenir shop. And then our concept, which is called the 12 Marché is, um, creatives in Detroit in Michigan and in the Midwest, but also connecting the dots, uh, creatively with other parts of the country and giving people access to Detroit for the first time in a meaningful way. And, um, we've curated it and created this really department store experience, um, in the, the grand bazaar room of Michigan central. Hmm. So are you from the, the California area, the Coachella Valley, Joshua Tree, Yucca Valley, is that one? Yeah. I, yeah. I'm currently based in Palm Springs, but I've lived in Seattle. I grew up in Los Angeles. I lived in New York. Yeah. So I currently live a quiet life in Palm Springs. Yes. So how did you come up with this, this idea of, of kind of what you've built as part of the, the Mojave Flee and, and the trading post and the whole deal? Well, it started as doing, you know, pop up markets with, with, um, makers, you know, and that term started to, to rise in 2014, where there was this new sort of, um, movement of young people going back to like very traditional traits, like woodworking and ceramics and, you know, knitting and, and just handmade things really kind of a return to a quality, meaning, you know, a quality of life and, and things that could be meaningful. And so if that movement, I just started to build more and more platforms for these, you know, creators to, to flourish and, um, and grow. And it's, it's been really amazing to, to really try to move consumers away from disposable living and to really invest in things that are meaningful and lost the lifetime. So in the, for example, the De Tuah Marché concept, how much influence did you take from Detroit? Obviously a lot. You've got the, the, the, the French name, but, but when you, when you came here, did you have to do a lot of fact finding and just seeing kind of what's around and building this experience for people? Yeah, absolutely. We started with Detroit as the core of the collective. We just started looking and getting referrals and really doing a lot of research and development and finding all our favorite things. And it's a really amazing representation of women, of people of color, of queer people who we found and really, you know, created an opportunity for. And it's, it's a really inclusive and a very diverse group of people that we represent here. Um, it's, it's, I'm very proud of it. And so when are these, uh, these pop-ups? When are these, uh, these, these locations activated? Are they up and running now? And how long are they going? Yeah. Yeah. Everything opens just about, um, we're doing a little VIP Swari with the executives of Michigan Central and Ford today from three to five. And then the first round of their Friday night programming starts from five to 10. And then tomorrow starts our regular hours, which are Tuesday through Saturday. Every day we're open 10 to five Tuesday through Saturday, uh, those Sunday and Monday. Cool. Awesome. Well, we appreciate it. And, uh, we look forward to checking out what you got going on down at the, uh, the train station. Thank you for the time. Perfect. Uh, James. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Talk to him. Right? Yep. Have a good one. Uh, 800-859-0957-800-859-0WJ. Matt Hall, the incoming house speaker, says he actually has a plan to fix the roads. We'll talk about that in the three o'clock hour coming up on Jay afternoon. All right. Welcome in three o'clock hour. It is good to have you. And just as a reminder, the Transciberian orchestra, they are out on the Los Christmas Eve winter tour. And you can see them at the tour stop of your choice score two premium tickets to the Transciberian orchestra concert of your choice with flights at three night hotels day and a thousand dollar gift card for holiday shopping. Price is provided by wild child touring. So to enter for your chance to win, Texas hours, national keyword, pulse, pulse to 95819 for full details and official contest rules. Head on over to wjr.com. Uh, Matt Hall, uh, the incoming house speaker here in the state of Michigan as Republicans flipped the house, uh, back to Republican control, says that he has an actual idea to fix Michigan's roads. And it's going to take a lot of money, but he says he's got a plan for it. Says that the time for empty promises is is over. And he's got a plan to actually fix the road. So we'll talk to Matt Hall coming up at three 18. A couple of things just to keep you updated on this afternoon. Of course, Matt Gates says that he is withdrawn his name from consideration for attorney general after Donald Trump put him up for that job. And it became very abundantly clear that the more that we were hearing from Republicans on, uh, on the Senate floor that they just, they didn't have the votes. He didn't have the votes. And I told you initially, I didn't like that decision. I didn't like that pick. Um, but the interesting thing here is that Matt Gates, uh, telling Charlie Kirk today on his podcast that, um, he does not intend to join the 119th Congress. So there was some speculation on, you know, he resigned his seat, but they are still on the last term. So yes, he did just get reelected in his congressional district in Florida. So there was some, some wondering whether or not Matt Gates would just not be in his seat for the rest of this term, but then come back in the 119th Congress. So he tells Charlie Kirk that he won't be back in his, in his, uh, in his Florida congressional seat. Um, come next term, which is interesting. So what that means, we don't know, but now Donald Trump has elevated Pam Bondi to be his attorney general. Uh, she, of course, was the attorney general of the state of Florida. Um, she had been a staunch and, and is a staunch supporter of Donald Trump. Um, she was somebody who, uh, defended him during his Senate impeachment trial. Um, his, uh, while, uh, in his first, uh, term as president, uh, and in a social media post, uh, Donald Trump said Pam was a prosecutor for nearly 20 years where she was very tough on violent criminals and made the street safe for Florida families. Um, and so now Donald Trump is elevating Pam Bondi to be his attorney general pick. Um, this is somebody who again, not only a supporter of Donald Trump, but certainly, uh, served with him on a number of different, uh, uh, fronts, including Donald Trump's opioid and drug abuse commission. Um, that was part of the America first policy institutes of conservative think tank. Um, and if, if she were to be confirmed, she will become the county's chief law enforcement officer for the department of justice. She'll be the, the, the, the attorney general. Um, and, and how that plays into what, uh, what, what, Donald Trump is able to get accomplished, what, uh, legislative and policy priorities, uh, get, get put through and, and how that's, uh, implemented or considered by Pam Bondi is, is something that will continue to watch for. Uh, meanwhile, uh, the Farmington Hills planning commission, uh, Danielle, I know you're a big fan of sheets. The Farmington Hills planning commission has approved a new sheets gas station in the Farmington Hills area, 12 and middle bill. Everyone over there is going to enjoy their life so much. No, I'm a big fan. What, what's, uh, what do you go for? Because there's a ton of stuff there. I go for cheap gas, cheaper than normal gas. So there, their gas prices on the pump will be like, Oh, it's, you know, whatever it is. But if you have the sheets membership card, you get an additional six cents off and you earn points so you can get anywhere. You can, you can get like 25 cents off at some point. I'm not, I'm not there, but also you get rewards from buying things inside the store. You know, normal snacks and all that stuff, but then they have the, they have, the area where you can do like fresh made food. So it's almost like, um, a fast food restaurant, a gas station, and a convenient sort while on one. And you do not have to go up to the register. You can scan everything by yourself. They have you scans in there as well. And everything I've ever eaten from there, everything they've ever made and put on the shelf and I have grabbed, has been fresh, wonderful. It is the best place on earth and go sheets. This mentioned that brought to you by sheets. Yeah, I was going to say this. Does Danielle work for her sheets? I thought she worked for us. You can also order ahead of time. You can do that and they have a drive. Well, we need to call sheets and just get you a, uh, endorsement here. I mean, well, I'm, I mean, yeah, let's do that. You're a big fan. I am a big fan and also the people are very friendly. They have to be the one at my, my sheets. The lady always comes out flaunting her arms and says, Good morning, my beautiful patrons. And I'm like, thank you. I love you. I love this. This is great. Daniel's going to move into sheets, I think. I think she's just going to, I would if I could put up a tent and yeah, just be in sheets all the time. Okay. Well, that's great. So the good people of Farmington Hills will, not everybody's excited about it. I mean, it's a busy area and they, they feel like it could cause some issues. Get over it. You feel like once they experience it, it's, oh my God, I forgot to tell you one of those are great parts. I'm not kidding. So quickly. Okay, because sheets is such a busy, such a busy place, you have to form a line in front of the pump. What is cool is that you can check in on your app and say, I want to go to pump five. This is how much I want to put in and whatever. So you wait there, you pull up, right? It automatically knows that you're there. You like scan a little thing. It knows how much you want. It knows how much you're paying. So, all you have to do is grab the pump, put it into the hole and boom, you have gas. Oh, that is pretty good. And you can order, you can order food online or from in store while you are at the pump and then just go pick it up. All right. It's awesome. You've, you've sold me the done. I'm on board. Well done. I think we need to listen to the commercial there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got to pay the bills. I mean, geez. All right. Meanwhile, the Detroit police board has developed a new accountability dashboard for citizen complaints. WJ, our senior news analyst, Marie Osborne, taking a look at how it will work. Hi, Marie. Hi. Oh, I'm sorry. I've got to plan my visit to sheets. There. I'll take you with me, Marie. I'll go. I'll go, Danielle. I'll go. You really should be accompanied by by Danielle. It sounds like she's a celebrity. By an adult, right? Yes, I know. All right. Chris, there's a new way for the police department to process citizen complaints about the conduct of a police officer. Right now, the board of police commissioners receives monthly or even weekly reports from the office of the chief investigator. That has all the details in it about citizen complaints. But now the board has launched a new dashboard, which is designed to provide transparency to the public about the boards and investigations and police misconduct. They say it'll be greater transparency. So this comes after years of a lot of questions over the process and policies that authorize the board to take action against police officers who were accused of wrongdoing. Since 2012, there have been over 16,000 citizen complaints just over that. And about 2,300 of them remain open today, according to this new dashboard. So this is how it would work after complaint is submitted to the board of police commissioners. They'll determine the allegations if they're substantiated. The complaint and any relevant information is sent to the DPD's disciplinary division for further action. The dashboard doesn't provide details about the specific complaints, but it does give an analysis of all the complaints. For example, the public can view the number of citizen complaints that have been filed since 2012. The number of open complaints today, the data related to the allegations, as well as the findings of these complaints. It also provides some demographic data for both the citizen who filed the complaint and the officer. And Chris residents can file these citizen complaints that can do it online. They can do it in person at the Detroit Police Department and the DPD also has a phone number you can call to make these kinds of complaints to actually lodge a complaint. Hmm. To me, it sounds efficient. It sounds like a pretty good idea. Well, and and the big thing here is that this is just very open. The board says it's much more open for citizens to them. Just look and you know, really the this kind of cuts off at the past problems that can arise a lot of times with these police complaints this way. It's right there in the open pit and people can see it. Yeah, good stuff. All right, Marie, enjoy sheets. Have a good weekend. We'll talk to you next week. We'll do see up. Bye bye. All right. Coming up Matt Hall says he's got the answer to fix in the roads. What is it? We'll catch up with Matt Hall, the incoming speaker of the house coming up here in W. Chair. So Republicans in this election here in the state of Michigan also flipped the House of Representatives. So there will be a split Lansing as Republicans will enjoy the majority in the House. And incoming House Speaker, Speaker-elect Matt Hall, has unveiled a plan which he says will actually fix Michigan's roads. An area where Republicans say is is a black mark on Governor Gretchen Whitmer's agenda that that she actually hasn't done enough to fix the roads. And as a result, Matt Hall says he's got the plan to actually fix them. And Matt Hall joins me here this afternoon. Mr. Speaker-elect, it's good to have you. Thanks for having me. Great to be here. All right. So what's the plan? How do we fix these things? Well, for the last few years, Governor Whitmer proposed. We remember she came into office running to fix the roads. And then the first thing she did is proposed a 45 cent gallon gas tax increase. And no Democrat had the courage to introduce that bill in the legislature at the time. So that died. So then she decided to borrow billions of dollars to fix state roads. And what happened is that borrowing is ending. And so at the end of next year, there'll be a huge reduction in funding for roads. The second thing that happened was during the COVID-19 pandemic, there was a huge influx of federal spending on roads. That is also drying up toward the end of next year. So we're facing a cliff here in Michigan where our road funding is significantly going to decline. So my proposal is that we prioritize our road funding first. Under Whitmer, our general fund has increased 40 percent. And so a lot of that money has been spent on slash pads and boxing rings and shady non-profits that weren't even in existence at the time they got money. We see proposals to send hundreds of millions of dollars to GM to tear down the Renaissance Center. We see proposals to give money to corporations. I don't know how many people campaigned on that. I can't think of one, but I do know we all campaigned on fixing the roads. So our plan is let's number one, your mark $1.2 billion out of the corporate income tax to roads. So it comes off the top instead of going in the general fund because when it goes in the general fund, they spend it on stupid things. Number two, let's dedicate all of the money at the pump that we collect to road. That'll get us about $900 million. That puts us over $2 billion. Then when Whitmer's corporate welfare slash fund runs out next year, let's dedicate that to roads too. That'll get us $2.7 billion, which is more than enough to fix all of our local and city roads. And would that be running? That would be a year over a year. Would we be spending nearly $3 billion on road repairs? Correct. Yeah, we should do that every year. We should dedicate it because when we get into times where we have to use discretion, I don't think we should be using that discretion to cut road funding. We should cut the other things that are a lot less popular. But roads, public safety, education, we should fund those things. And then when we run on hard times and we have to make discretionary decisions, then let's cut the boxing rings and splash pads and hip hop academies and things like that. So one of the things that you mentioned after she was elected in 2018, and really it was not long before the pandemic started that she bonded out and to the tune of like three and a half billion, I believe it was, to help fix roadways. I mean, those bills are going to come do as well. What's the future and the repayment of those bonds as we're trying to continue to fund our roadways at what you're saying, $2.7 billion. So how do we pay those bonds back while continuing to fund our roads? So you're right. The life of those bonds is longer than the life of those roads in some cases. You think about it. We had a $9 billion surplus last year and the Democrats spent all of it. And we didn't get much movement on our local roads and bridges. We could have been paying off that debt, but you think they're borrowing that $3.5 billion when they have a $9 billion surplus. So you're right. We'll be paying that back for years. But we also need to fund new road projects, which is why I'm proposing this $2.7 billion a year. And we weighed it toward our city and county roads, because all the state roads are where Whitmer, her borrowing went to. So we still have a lot of local and county roads that we have to repair. And that's where we're going to dedicate the lion's share of this new funding. Is there, I mean, even if you go back to 2017, 2015, something like that, and I'm not sure if you have the number with you, but how does that, how did what we spent the decade ago on roads per year stack up to the 2.7 billion? Because I don't think we were spending that much back then. Well, that's right. So when the, what happened was, Whitmer boosted the amount of money going to roads. And she did it by borrowing money. And then the rest of it came through federal money. And so, you know, you build up a workforce, you build up, you know, an industrial base. And then when that money runs out, you're going to see significant drops back to what you described 10 years ago. And so what we're saying is, let's, let's not do that. Let's find a way to permanently fund at the level we were at and a little higher, but let's dedicate it to local roads and county roads. And that's what we're proposing. We think that's where our money should go instead of to big corporations into splash pad. Is there, have you talked to your counterparts on the opposite side of the aisle? Is there an appetite for this? Is this something that you, that they might signal that they're going to support? Yeah, I've been talking to them about this for weeks. And I've been asking them to tell me what their ideas are. And Whitmer for years has not been giving us a plan. So what I realized was, the people in the media were equating my actual plan to them just saying we want to work on it. So I said, well, I'm just going to put out all the details of my plan publicly and challenge the Democrats to come up with a plan too. And they don't have a plan. So at least I have a plan. And I hope in December we can move my plan. And if they have ideas, well, we want to hear them, but since the 45 cent gas tax increase, they have no plan. And I think they should put it on the table. And then we'll say, do you want to use existing revenue or do you want to raise taxes? Because everything we're spending money on is so great that we need to raise taxes. I think people are going to agree with a 40% increase in the general fund, we can get it out of our general fund, which is what I propose. Yeah, Michigan House Speaker-elect Matt Hall, always appreciate our conversations. You're welcome anytime. I'd love to have you back on, because I've got questions on how you intend to run the House of Representatives as well, where Republicans take over. So let's, we'll, we'll, we'll shelve that for now. We'll talk again here soon down the road. In back. Thank you. Yep, you got it. That is Matt Hall, the Republican Speaker-elect here in the state of Michigan. All right, we'll take a break. I've got some folks on the line. If you want to weigh in on this plan to fund our road repairs, 808590957 more next. All right, 808590957, 800-859-0wj. Let's go to the phones, catch up with Mike in Bowling Green. What's up, Mikey? Hey, you have a copy on me, Chris? I got you, babe. What do we got? Okay. Hey, I've got four items we could do a lightning round. If I could take these all in. I called in, talked to your screen, or just about the, the chip manufacturing, and I wanted to give you an update on Intel, which Intel is building a thousand acre, and again, they bought a thousand acres down east of Columbus, about 40 miles east in New Albany, Ohio, and they're building their first fab unit. They've got enough land to build a total of four of these fab units in the manufacturing, and it's a slow process. They had to build a road infrastructure out there to New Albany, and and whatnot. So things are slow, but it is making progress. I did see an article where they hauled in two 200 foot long tanks that they're going to put some sort of a gas in them. I don't know whether it's seeing two or something. I want to say, I want to say I read somewhere that did they get the money from the chips act to build that facility. I thought I read that they didn't. Well, that's what floored them down, but they are still creeping along. That's correct. They did not, but they're still going to build it, but it's going to take longer than expected, because they might be getting money from other sources. I'm not sure. Well, they have partnered with OSU for training for the new workers. These are all high paying jobs down there, but that was that's basically that and that's in Lickin County down there East. Okay. The other thing I wanted to comment on was Mike Rogers. He would be a great pick for the FBI director. I just hope the Trumpster comes around to him and as far as it sounds like that's not happening. It sounds like that's not right. That's right. He might not be totally loyal to the big guy there, the Trumpster. I don't know if he has just somebody else in mind. Yeah, that could be. Pam from Florida is going to make a great A.G. There is no doubt about that. Yep. You like that? Let's see. What else do we have here? Oh, I've got to tell you about the roads. Fix the damn roads. Whatever you guys do up there in Detroit, do not place any children's parks under your ramps. Did you hear what happened down in Cincinnati? No, I would actually caught on fire. They built a children's ramp under that unused space under the interstate at takes traffic from Kentucky inbound to downtown Cincinnati and then of course back at night. But anyway, somebody got the bright idea to build a children's playground down there and they use this rubber product all over the thing to keep the kids from getting injured. And yeah, the homeless folks had a barrel fire caught on fire and the whole thing weakened the steel, the I beams on the ramp got to rebuild it. Oh boy. Yeah, Mike, I will, I will, I would, I would, yeah, I would always advise against building a park under a ramp. I would agree. Yes. Thank you, Mike. I covered a lot of ground. Thank you. Let's go out to Democrat Dave. Hello, David. Happy Friday. Hi, Chris. Hi, Chris. You mentioned unprecedented relative to the New York situation. It kind of loses its effect on precedence when it's used all the time. I mean, it's the definition of Trump and everything on precedence. But let's talk about the specifics. What would be the possible reasons why you think Marcia would not just give me a hearing but actually rule in favor of that. I mean, there's we're talking about the 34 felony counts. Okay, that was predicated on changing the record. The underlying crime was six things before the November 3rd 2016 election. There was a in kind illegal, unreported, in kind, can't forgive campaign contribution in the form of 130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels. Okay, the three considerations. David, you know, we know, we know the case. The point is, have you ever seen a case where they put on eye sentencing for four years? Have you ever seen that? You know, but that the fact that something happens for the first time is irrelevant. What's wrong? I'm not saying it's not relevant. I'm just saying we for Alvin Bragg to say, well, we'll just put it on ice for four years. Under what circumstances? Under what. Here's the circumstance. Here's what I'm calling. There's an OLC ruling, not a Supreme Court ruling, not a court ruling. It's a guidance. Okay, everyone respects it. When the president's in office, you do not prosecute him. Okay, to New York law, pardons do not pertain to the new to state convictions at all. Okay, they're not applicable. The third you mentioned that crazy Supreme Court ruling, even that had to couple it with a presidential act. And that six days, okay, it was not a president. That's one of the things that Marshawn is considering is the Supreme Court decision on immunity. It's one of the things he's considering. Right. And that's my point. And I note that even using the Supreme Court ruling, I don't know how you loosely get to the fact that was a a presidential duty, the payment after after while he's in office where the crime was expectively committed six days before as president. You can say, well, in New York, it was the cover up and he did that president. But that wasn't remotely related to a coupling. It was a present normal presidential duty. There's no predicate for a presidential duty. Just just them carrying on his normal LLC business from New York business. And that was as a candidate. So I don't know where do all these legal people you talk about where they're they're saying this? What where are they coming from? Look, Dave, I don't know. I'm just telling you that there's no precedent in putting a case on hold for four years. Generally sentencing happens, you know, after a verdict, 10, 11, 12 weeks, whatever it is, not four years later. So yes, it's unprecedented because we have not seen it before because it hasn't happened. So that's where I don't know. We're on uncharted waters here. But many legal experts say that this is the these are the steps to just dismissing this. Like it goes away. It vanishes. It's gone. But I mean, look, we're digging around. We're doing our due diligence to see if we can figure this out. And we'll bring it to you. But I'm just telling you, this is very different than anything we've ever seen before. Quickly, let's go to Rod and Plymouth. What's up, Rod? Well, real quick, it is unprecedented. You know, you can't just keep something in limbo when you're supposed to get a fair and speedy trial and a judgment. And that's just one of the benefits of becoming president. The fact is, is you just can't have it lingering on without appeals because, you know, this was an unfair trial. We know what's already what was precedent is how business and real estate has worked throughout the country for years. But the reason that I call this because the Michigan Department of Transportation, like I said with you in Frank many years ago, and we do need state government transparency, is that MDOT should be its own entity with a bipartisan elected commission, let's say, and all the money remains with MDOT. And there will be a lot less bickering out behind legislatures change hands and governorships change hands. We need to get a handle on this. And no one's doing it. Neither party. No, and look, the realities are we've been underfunding our roads for a long time, Rod. And look, I appreciate the idea that the governor of, you know, just going out and bonding it if we can't get the funding. Okay, that's great. But that's a short-term fix on a long-term problem. And it's only a long-term problem because we have not properly funded our roads to the degree in which they've needed to be funded for decades forever, forever. And so now you're behind the eight ball because, I mean, the repairs that need to be made are so wide. They're so deep. They're so problematic that, look, I'm on board funding it to the highest level that we can, whatever it takes to get these roads fixed. And it'll take a long time until we actually see a real noticeable difference. But I, you know, bonding them out is a short-term fix on a long-term problem. Then you're paying for it more than you would have if you were to just earmarked money for it in the first place. And this is, this has been, this has been the problem in Lansing for a long time. So I hope they figure it out. I really do. I hope they get to a conclusion where, yeah, we need to be throwing billions of billions of dollars every year at this, every single year. All right, we'll take a break, come back for more. One of the wild stories in college football and impacts the University of Michigan. We'll talk about it next here on W.J.R. So it is a, look, it's a, it's an entirely new era of college football. And we do have Michigan State for you coming up tonight here on W.J.R. But I, I do want to, I want to focus in on this, the situation that Michigan's found themselves in. So actually in our, in my high school football coverage for you this year, we went out and saw Belleville take on Dearborn Fordson and Belleville blew him out of the water. Belleville, the quarterback, is the number one recruit in the country. This is a, a, a kid who is really, really talented, had been committed to LSU for a long time. And the fact that somehow they were able to flip Bryce Underwood is, is really remarkable. Now what did it take? Because apparently there was some bad blood between Jim Harbaugh and the staff and not making them a priority, whatever. We're not getting in the high school college recruiting. But what's unbelievable is the amount of money that is rumored to have been given to him in order for him to come to the University of Michigan. I mean, I've seen reports of eight, 10, 12 million dollars. And it, it speaks to the fact that we're just in a completely different era of college football. Um, Ken Brown, um, hi, how are you doing? Um, what do you, uh, what do you make of this? Because I, you know, kids never played a high school snap or a college football snap. And we've seen this in other places in Texas A&M and Miami and whatever. But like the money that these kids are getting is unbelievable. Yeah, you know, I'm trying not to be to get off your long guy and I understand times have changed. And you know, I try to look at it both ways. And like I said, it was a system that at one time favored the non-athlete. And then now it favors the athlete too much. But this is ridiculous. And it just takes away from amateur athletics and the college experience to me. And I don't like it at all. I just don't like it. Here's the other part. Here's the other part in this. When you get 12, let's look, okay, let's be on the conservative side. Let's say he got five. Okay. That is life changing money. Okay. And you're a 17, 18 year old kid. I mean, if you are, if you act properly with that money, you do the good things. And if he's got good people around him, and they're able to to put it in the proper places, I mean, you can live the rest of your life. You'd be fine. What's what's unbelievable is, did you see the who funded this? Did you happen to see that? No, I didn't. This is an important noise that he's not he didn't fund. No, no. So the the Michigan NIL collective, this is something that all these schools have now. They're it's like an organization that communicates with donors and boosters and things like that, or fans that want to contribute. And they pay into it. And then they pay players accordingly. But the the person who champion circle, which is the name of the Michigan NIL collective, when they sent out a press release last night, the name that they threw out was shocking. And I'm not quite sure why. And that name is Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison was the former CEO of Oracle. He is, as we stand today, the seventh richest man in the world. Larry Ellison has from my research, no ties to the University of Michigan, no ties to Michigan at all. But a picture came out. He was at a he was at a by the way, Larry Ellison is 80 years old. He was at a tennis tournament, the tournament that he owns, sitting next to a young woman with a Michigan hat on. And in the press release, they say they want to thank Joel and and Larry Ellison. And I have done extensive research on this because I couldn't believe it. There is nobody out there named Joel and Ellison. You can't find anything about it. The only news out there on this person's name is based on the stories of Michigan flipping Bryce Underwood for 12 million bucks, whatever it is. So like it's what this story is really insane. And then you go to the fact that I think the NCAA is just broken and and I yell at him broken. And like I said, we can get into who has money and who don't. I mean, Ross has so much money if you wanted to buy players every good. So but I just want to get into the point where it's not amateur athletics anymore. It's not we're winning for the university. We don't play the fight song. I don't want to ever hit Michigan. We're doing better than we're the leaders of the West and the best and whatever you bought right into this. When it all calls mentality. I saw a picture of should do a Sanders in a Maybach today showing up for practice in a white on white Maybach. That's not the college experience. That's not that we're winning for the team. I mean, it's acceptable because that's what it is. And I blame the establishment for this too because when they were headed the other way and we're giving the players enough to get pizza, they laughed at it and said, will you give them a scholarship whatever when they could have made a deal then to give them a little money and there was a lot of money that could have gave them. Give them a little bit of money and make this whole thing now. Now it's just swung the whole way. I don't even watch college football like I used to. And if it's a team plan, it's just a ball team is a protein to me. So if you wanted that way, you got to 12 team tournament, but it's like a mini pro and I just rather watched the regular pro than watch mini pros. All right. So here's the other part. So let me talk you off the ledge from being getting off my long guy because at some point that the incentivization of these players from being really good and going to the NFL, it's going to wait because they're going to be making so much money. It's going to impact the NFL at some level, isn't it? Not necessarily because I don't think it's going to get to the point where they're going to be making more than NFL contracts or whatever, but it will keep playing kids in college more if they can make more staying a year to those, you know, second, third, fourth round as they can get more in college, they'll stay. But the NFL money, that's good money, man. And that's what they want to play. It's just that you got your pro now and Michigan's a pro team. They're the 33rd NFL team. All right. You guys off today? No, we're on. And I went a little while. Terrence Kubo will be joining us this afternoon. Oh, good. I'm talking about his side. You know, we're going to talk today, Burkett about the Lions game in Indy, which I'm going to this weekend. And then we'll talk about Michigan State. You're going to hit say it almost? Yes, for the hot shrimp. Very good. That way. All right. Have a good weekend, my friend. Have a good weekend. We will see you next week. Same time, same place. Have a good one. [BLANK_AUDIO]