Amala Ekpunobi

“I Wear Tight Clothes For Myself” Fit Women vs Fit Men Middle Gro

Jubilee brought together 4 fit men and 4 fit women to discuss all things fitness. They touch on gym culture, sexism in fitness, dressing for attention, fatphobia, and more. Let’s react!

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Duration:: 1h 45m
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Want to shop Walmart Black Friday deals first Walmart plus members get early access to our hottest deals Join now and get 50% off a one-year annual membership Shop Black Friday deals first with Walmart plus see terms at Walmart plus dot-com The sounds of the season can often sound like this But with Hilton season to stay sale they could sound a bit more like this Or this Stay and save up to 20% off when you book before January 5th at Hilton calm Hilton for the stay minimum two nights day required excludes luxury and all-inclusive properties terms and conditions apply Hi everybody happy Monday welcome to the show. I'm your host on love and OB and yeah We had some technical difficulties. That's what that's why we are late We are trying to get up and running or machines would not allow us to get up and running Which I think is the same reason why we just randomly cut out last Friday. Sorry about that And if you send a super chat last Friday, we did continue I think on our other platforms like X and Facebook So you guys oh and Spotify so you guys can check that out and hear what I had to say So let's cross our fingers and hope that doesn't happen again today And we can actually go through what we're trying to go through today, which is fit men versus fit women Jubilee middle ground, but before we go there, of course, we have Taylor National It's an app-propelled topic for this week going into Thanksgiving, you know most of us are more concerned about fitness turkey and mashed potatoes in our stomach fitness, but Interesting. I don't know what's going on with streaming issues I don't know if Diddy's reaching out from prison and messing with her internet cables or something like that But we're gonna get through and power through today. We will not be stopped for real. We will not be stopped Sean Diddy comes Today's gonna be like chill, you know, we're not getting into news We're not getting into politics We're gonna go back and forth with these fit men and fit women and see what they got to say Let's run it up obese women or thick girls or any type of girl is gonna do fine a fat man that has bank Yeah, it's gonna be way better than a thick woman in your bank. His money makes that Look at daddy's The muscle mommies, are you guys into muscle mommies? That's a big thing now All right step forward if you agree with the prompt A gym is a masculine space The gym is a masculine space. I mean traditionally, yes I think the gym is was a it was a masculine space if you watch like the old school videos from like the 50s and 60s of like women in their Workouts, it was like you're wearing like regular clothes the workouts were not really strenuous The gym has like totally different equipment to what men have but I think in the modern day and age We've really integrated with one another. I go to the gym and at least the gym that I go to It seems to be about a 50/50 split of men and women But I do associate to the gym more with masculinity than I do with femininity. I think Taylor Yeah, I mean the imagery that comes in your mind with the gym is like, you know grunting a lot of physical exertion and sweat and People try to build up their bodies and in general. I think it just skews more toward a masculine thing But I'm sure they'll get into it. It's in modern day and age You're just as likely to see a woman as a man in the gym though So I think it could go either way at this point and I see a lot of you in the comments down below We're saying you like muscle mommies Don't make a weird guys Okay, he's walking forward Okay, a few people okay half Do any of you feel uncomfortable going to the gym or how are you kind of adapted to it now? It's kind of more common Yeah, that's a good one I definitely at first for the first six months of me working out and keep in mind like I've only been working out for two and a half years So this really wasn't like that long ago I would only work out of my basement I was really missing out on some gains because I was too scared to go to the gym Just because I wanted to wait left and I felt like I would look Just like I didn't know what I was doing. Yeah, just it's kind of no that's so real actually any time I've wanted to wait left I'm like I'm not willing To do like the walk up to the machine and of course like there's like they're kind of like isolated at least of the gym I go to where it's like if you want to squat like you're going to where everybody's squatting And then there's of course people who are like super advanced and their form is impeccable and all these things And you're like oh, I don't want to like attempt this for the first time in front of people who know exactly what they're doing But you just kind of have to decide like nobody can make you embarrassed except for yourself And then you have to walk up and do it, but it's it's real. It's a real feeling I think that's why Planet Fitness does so well with all their locations that they have because it's the judgment-free zone They serve pizza there their whole thing is trying to help people get over that initial hump of like yes You're allowed to be here They have a lunker alarm if somebody slamming weights and grunting Then they have this alarm that goes off and I get it and that's a major barrier to people And I recently joined a new gym and there's still a little bit of that like okay Everyone feels like they're in their element here and I'm kind of the outsider even though I've been In a night out of gyms like my whole life and I still kind of felt a little bit of that So I totally get it and I can imagine how to be more of a thing for women Yeah, you're just like oh, I feel like if somebody's watching me like either I would like there would be somebody there like helping me do what I'm doing or you're just thinking like somebody's watching me And I'm so shit at this You're just getting your head about it for no reason for real because I was a small woman as well Like once you're a bigger woman, it's obviously easier because people can at least tell You've been doing this for a while I signed up for the gym Tried to go into the weightlifting section and ended up literally crying calling my brother and being like Can you come work out next to me like so that I don't feel Out of place I never felt it that intensely I will say it's just like a nagging thought to be honest And now it's at a point where I still feel the need to like keep a strong face like kind of assert myself and Almost like act like I know what I'm doing Even though I do know what I'm doing. I feel the need to like act like it so that like I feel like I belong Do you feel like you're being judged or people like dude staring at you? Do you have any of that kind of issue at the death that I was thinking? What I would say is Obviously, there's definitely some men who would make me feel judged just with stares and whatnot But I would say what makes women feel more judged is men going out of their way to sort of like Insert themselves like unprompted and be like ayo like let me let me show you how to do that and it's like Well, then it's like tooth if you're saying you're walking up to the machine And you don't know what you're doing and somebody tries to help you then I don't know how you can be Upset about that. There is a certain type of guy though, and I will grant this There's a certain type of person shall I say at the gym and most typically men who just are really You're doing too much I really don't need you to be talking to me right now And they just come and assert themselves and they they're not coming in as if it's a question as to whether or not They're going to help you They're just like in there talking to you trying to to get you to do something And I've seen there's a specific guy who goes to the gym that I go to And he I guess puts together like workout regimens for people and he'll just walk around the gym finding all these people Incorrecting them on their form. He doesn't discriminate male female. It's like, okay Some people do not want your help And this is a good way I guess to advertise your business for those that do but you're doing a little bit too much So I think it's just about like Asking the question if you really want to help somebody or if you see that they're going to be harming themselves Being like hey, can I show you the proper way to do that and like leave the ball in their court for them to say yes or no Yeah, and for that guy It's like I wonder how much if it is like a ego thing or just a lack of self-awareness or if he's trying to If he sells those and that's how he makes his living and he's trying to get that bread And he's in the gym as kind of his his space to solicit, but I'm curious from a woman's perspective You know, we talked about the feeling of discomfort when you go in the gym and it's like, okay I don't know what I'm doing. I want people to judge me for that Then you also have the the ogling and the the worrying about guy sexualizing you or whatever so like To what degree or I guess like what's the balance on that? Is it more one or the other or how does it feel as if it has a woman walking into a gym Are you more worried about people judging you because you don't know anything or because you don't look dumb or because You don't want I don't want that attention from dudes. I'm definitely more worried about looking stupid trying at these Like all the go up to a machine. I'm like reading the directions on the machine Like maintain a little profile Like you do it wrong the first time or like the weights too high and you just look embarrassed But I don't know there's definitely like a certain type of guy that's like scouting at the gym And that's why they go there and I think you just have to be comfortable with kind of shutting that down If people are looking at you, that's one thing. I don't care about that unless it starts to feel like They're like dangerous in some way or they're continuing to stare at you in a way that's super creepy It doesn't get to me. I think like everybody's looking at everybody at the gym. It's just the way it goes But uh, yeah, it's definitely I feel more of the embarrassment than I do like oh Somebody's sexualizing me right now. Although you do have your little like you do have your gym creeps Let's be real and for men I'm like you can look for girls at the gym I go back and forth on this because a lot of guys are like can I walk up to the girl who's my gym crush and it's like Yeah, but you're running the risk of like if she's not into you, you're gonna keep running into this girl It's gonna be a weird thing. I don't know how I feel about Approaching at the gym. I wonder how many of these guys coming up giving unwanted advice are actually probably that's their way of like approaching a girl at the gym Is like oh that she's counted in my domain. She looks a little bit vulnerable I can come in and be like, oh, let me show you how to do this not really interested in education But actually interested in just taking advantage of that little in that they might have at that moment Yeah, 100 guys will be like, oh, can I show you how to do this a little bit better? By the way, how often have you been working out? Oh, you live around here? Well, what are you doing? This you great progress 100% there's an in which I guess if you're going to try to talk to a woman Maybe it's good to kind of like build a baseline that's something other than approaching them and like going directly in for for the ask But the gym is just a tough spot. I don't think most women want to be approached at the gym It's already like a vulnerable Space for women just like working out in front of people plus like you have the headphones in and there's just so many Barriers I think in the place of trying to find connections at the gym that maybe we should listen and look Elsewhere did I say I didn't know how to do that And that's like sort of where it's like, okay. Well, I feel judged because I feel like you're just assuming I don't know how to do what I've been doing for like two and a half years I do feel like obviously the gym culture it started with men Um, that's how this all kind of started with like Arnold Schwarzenegger back in the day and getting that going and then women came into it As well, but I do still feel like it is a male dominated industry and women do get judged in the gym I think and um, so that's that's why I agreed with that All right, can we have the disagree a step forward? You guys are a little young so therefore you're starting with Arnold. I'm gonna start with Jane Fonda Okay, let's go back there Every generation has Their pros and cons to fitness male dominated versus female Okay, so in our generation now, I think it's way more acceptable. Yes, and I'm gonna say it's not even just acceptable It's just a given right that women are in the gym now Absolutely because it's like and as far as being judged When I used to train people I used to tell them first of all, nobody's judging you They're all concerned about themselves Every single person walking that gym. I don't care what you look like. You look like you look like I'm concerned about what I look like so therefore every single person in the gym is thinking the same thing, right? I think it's a little bit of both I think people are constantly like bouncing their own self-image off of other people thinking about how they're being perceived Which in turn makes you like look at other people and their physique and see how you measure up And there's just a whole ton of a lot of different dynamics um, I'm not I'm never So willing to just put a blanket statement that like everybody's simply there for themselves You're going to get all types of different people who are at the gym for different reasons So nobody's judging anybody. We're all said, you know when it comes into this here our own playing space You know nobody I don't think there's any judgment. I do see women posting on TikTok saying oh these dudes are trying to You know hit on me or jumping on a set And then they post on TikTok that they're being judged or being looked at and I they're starting to create this culture that They are being like gawk that by dudes and like maybe the guy just wants them Joey Swell would not have an account if everybody was at the gym for themselves Let me tell you that he's constantly finding people who are at the gym for many more reasons than just being there for themselves Guess what i'm trying to hit on you guess what if you want to create the butt that you're growing you're already growing Who do you want to look at it? I get it. I get it. Thank you. Let's not be too You know, it's kind of like if the girl's gonna build the butt why should build in the bed first place Don't go to the guys to look at it Well, don't go to the gym and make and make the videos about guys looking at you and that's the girl's fault Well, hold on there. There's a totally different culture in the gym now with influencers and social media There's a lot of people that are in a gym that are not there really serious about crafting or physique And getting healthy they're there to shoot content. Yes. Okay, so you have a whole different element The people that are there to work and train they're they're not paying attention any of that I could care less how often a guy looks at me you better look what you think i'm in here for Great that lets me know i'm doing what i'm doing and I feel very confident in the gym Like that is my domain. I love playing with the big boys And so I never feel um out of place. I never feel like the wording. Sorry. That just literally caught me off guard I love playing with the big boys. What? Come again. Say that again. Oh, like I shouldn't be here or or oh, I'm being judged No, they're looking to me like wow. Okay. I just you know, she knows what she's doing And there's a certain level of respect also that you get when you carry yourself a certain way in the gym So those girls that you're thinking that you're speaking about I can guarantee you. They're not serious. Um, yeah health and fitness Trainers or or people in the industry like we are. Yeah, um, they're there For their own purpose and reason and it's it's not It's it's not health and fitness nine times out of ten is to get likes and views on the content they post I like you guys could always be a little bit about I think the whole thing requires nuance Or we're doing a lot of like black and whites statements here turn but judging because it's not really necessary judging It's more like the gym is biostatic. So we're looking to see how does this person look in the sense that? Yeah, not judging them like man. Just check. Well, hold on too. Yeah, and there's that I agree with that because I can't train at home I I have to train at the gym because I'm looking at everybody. They're good. They're giving me inspiration Yeah, I'll look at somebody's arms. I'll look at somebody's chest I'll look at their butt. I'll look at this and I find that person go Okay, I want it to look like that. I want it to look that when I was trained. That's interesting I've never heard somebody I guess obviously we're all doing that in some way shape or form in in some small amount I think in our lives most people are but she's saying I have to be at the gym to look at people's bodies And then see how I stack up and see and it motivates me to also watch them working out. I haven't thought about it In that way That's interesting. I'm kind of like I go to the gym because the equipment's at the gym There just so happens to be people there and all like space on my times to when there's the least amount of people at the gym because I just don't like the Unask for interaction that comes with being in a place that just is like full of people Sometimes you go to the gym and it literally looks like like a farm of some sort like hamsters All on wheels. I'm like oh now you have to go all through like this wave of people and try to get the right machine that you came Therefore if I could have my own home gym with all the equipment that I that I wanted. That's what I would do I think yeah, if it's like crazy busy I'll literally go home and find another time where it's not it's not crazy where you have to wait and it smells worse And it's you know, just people scurrying around but I think what she's talking about like, you know picking body parts off of certain people And setting your goals based on that. I mean In a measured way, I think that's fine But it's also like super unrealistic when you're thinking about genetics And like you got to talk about expectation setting when you're going into the gym Working on especially for like worried about feeling insecure and how we're going to feel going into these environments and taking on this project Like you need to understand that you know people have different body types They have different, you know amounts of muscle length and lengths of their limbs and things like that and density so It's to just say like oh, I'm going to pick this body part off this person and try to make that my goal to be like that It's like well, you're probably not going to end up looking like that person because the person that has the ideal biceps or you know But or whatever you're going for It has that in large part because of genetics So it's it can be like very quickly give away to a sort of unrealistic goal setting And so I think while it's fine to like take some inspiration from people who are exceptional cases in in in their own Special ways You can quickly get out of control really fast with that attitude 100 sometimes you just can't help it I'll be scrolling on tik-tok. I'm like damn She's she's fine. I wish I look like that You're like, okay, what I'm trying to like with my with the way I look and the way she looks What's the happy medium between these two and then you can find yourself in this never-ending loop of just doing that And you'll find you'll do it with like a million different body types that are in no way shape or form anything like what you've been given genetically It used to be a joke and I don't know if it still is, but it's like every guy will say like I don't want to be huge I just want to be like Brad Pitt and fight close It's like okay, buddy. Yeah Tutu and in competing one of my trainers said Find the body part on a person that looks phenomenal to you and find out how they're doing it I just want to say real quick and not in like a straight argumentative way to what you said But I did just feel the need to touch on the whole women are growing their glutes for men thing because that just kind of stopped the wrong way with me personally of course, I mean If anyone's looking at my ass and they're looking at it because they think it's nice like that's a compliment to me I don't really mind it But I would say I definitely wouldn't just generalize women and say that they're definitely growing their ass for men's approval. I think Who are you doing it for? I'm going to let her continue and see what she thinks the reason is, but I need to hear it Nah, how about anybody's approval? Are you with anybody's approval? I would agree with anybody's approval. Okay. I got their own approval for sure Um Let's start. Yeah, why okay. No random woman out of nowhere. I thought I think I want a fat ass for my own approval It's just never happened. It just hasn't happened. No woman has done that and even if she's saying I'll view it through the lens of everybody's approval Meaning men and women women who are looking at other women And let's say you have a bbl, but it looks natural or whatever and a woman is looking at you and it's like oh my gosh Your ass looks so good. She's saying that because men view it as an attractive feature That's so it all stems from sexuality Wanting to be be seen as attractive to the opposite sex Of course, unless you you don't identify with that sexuality and you're attracted to the same sex or something like that But a lot of it stems from just what men are attracted to Now i'm going to start seeking that out in the gym and we can see it because these bodies go in and out of trend A fat ass was not a huge thing even like what? 10 15 years ago. That was not a huge thing to be doing bbl culture was was not where it is today Uh, and that's because certain things come into style and become attractive to men in particular And then women start start seeking it out. So we can pretend like we do it for ourselves But if we're being totally honest, it all stems from from something else The first definitely yeah I would say like the main issue with men respecting women in the gym that I think about a lot is I find Men Maybe don't respect women as much in the gym as other men because men Perhaps feel like they're there for serious reasons and they feel like the women are there for Them i'm glad what does it mean to respect a woman who's in the gym like I don't it's like How does that appear in their lives if somebody telling you I don't respect you being in the gym or maybe they're talking like through the lens of social Media, maybe they get a lot of comments from men that say you're just doing this for attention or something like that I'd like to hear like what are the real world experiences that leads her to believe she doesn't get respect from men for being at the gym Also like I don't respect anybody I don't go to the gym and i'm like, I respect these people It's just not something that I'm ever thinking of so maybe people are going out of their way to insult her On social media or something to that effect Yeah, maybe I'd like if she's sorry Maybe I'd issue more respect for someone if they're like training for a specific sport like they're an olympic athlete or you know Doing something like that, but let's be honest most people go to the gym to make themselves more physically attractive And I think a lot of that whether man or woman is explained by the simple like evolutionary psychological concepts of sexual selections Males compete and contend with one another, you know the stronger one wins or whatever So you want to be as physically strong as you can be and look that way So as to increase your options on the female side and females want to attract males and they compete with one another to be more attractive to males So I think if you just enter into your analysis of this topic with that basic Biological fact and framework for like a lot of the the nuances that we see emerge in how people behave and what their motivations are Are pretty self-evident just based on you know that fundamental fact about how humans operate Yeah, I think so and if we can get down to the bottom of that and I don't know that that requires Respect of any kind but at that and I just really want to like not make that a thing Yeah, there's a lot of men that are not in there seriously either. Okay. Can we keep it real? Oh, yeah? Yeah, okay There's a lot of men that just come there just to gawk just to look they are not in there And I know because I'll sit on a machine on your phone for like five minutes looking around while I'm waiting to do my set I'm like, okay, like how long how long you gonna be here, right? Exactly, they're not in there for the right reason. So you have a whole different element. That's up in there Can you agree on those are certain they're not in there for the right reasons? I don't know I'm just never thinking about people's behavior in this way like who's to say what's the right reason or wrong reason to be at the gym If you go there to socialize or whatever and hang out or like, you know Sit on your phone but also be in a place that promotes activity that is sure like go to the gym and fucking do that Why do I care who's to say like you're here for the right reasons or or you're not if you're a woman and you're going to the gym to Husband hunt who who am I to say you're there for the wrong reasons if it gets you what you're looking for Or if you're just going there to get a fat ass so that men look at you But you're actively working out in the process. Are you there for the wrong reason? I don't know who am I and types of gems? Yeah, yeah 24 hours I'm sorry you go to a goal. Yeah Small element of that true true guys don't care. Yeah, they're gonna actually have some really good camaraderie with it. Yeah, right You go to plant fitness. Yeah, there's some of the other Like they're just the yeah guys looking at the girls in the gym. Yeah, um, what do you think it has to do with what you're wearing sometimes? Oh, yeah, the cleavage showing With you if a woman is wearing that to the gym guys just real talk she wants you to look at it Okay, because they're not wearing that kind of stuff to the gym. Yeah, don't go and make it tick off the video Guys looking at me. Well, of course These are hanging out. Oh, yeah, those women are not us. Yeah, we're totally I'm only got some time I'm not wearing that to the gym. Shut it down We are casting parents. Yeah, I mean don't sexualize yourself and complain about being sexualized. It's uh, it's pretty pretty simple Here's the next prompt. Let's see actually a good top end of that Fat people are unattractive I guess okay, they're trying to put everybody in hot water your fat people are unattractive in a general sense You're going to walk forward for this at least for me. Uh, my personal mindset I would not be dating somebody who is overweight just because I think it speaks to your fitness It speaks to your lifestyle. It speaks to your your future in a lot of ways your health But that doesn't mean that like a blanket statement all fat people are unattractive There are plenty of overweight people who are very attractive So, I mean, I guess I walk forward in the sense that my attraction is not oriented towards bigger people Yeah, I agree The sounds of the season can often sound like this So why do we get into grandkids? But with hilton season to stay sail they could sound a bit more like this Or this Stay and save up to 20% off when you book before january 5th at hilton.com Hilton for this day Minimum two night stay required excludes luxury in all inclusive properties terms and conditions apply This is what you do when you've just found that statement handbag on ebay And you want to build an entire wardrobe around it. You start selling to keep buying yep on ebay Over that all black everything phase list it and buy all the color feeling more vintage than ever It's out with the new and in with the pre-loved next thing you know You've refreshed your wardrobe basically without spending a dime Yeah, ebay the place to buy and sell new pre-loved vintage and rare fashion That Now she's judging them for agreeing with that Okay, this would be interesting I think that one oh the guy can be a trap every single guy Literally mark this right now. This is the gender difference here every single guy walks forward and like yeah This is the truth and the women stay behind so i'm very curious to see what the female argument for this is You know damn well these fit women are not dating obese men So i'm very curious to see their justification for not walking forward Backed to a person that is fat because everyone has their own types and what their makes them take But I think that question on a conventional basis what I want What I want to see a fat person for on a fitness magazine and say this is a sex symbol I think most people would agree that that's probably Conventionally that's not Sexy so yeah, I think that's the hard truth personal preference But in my preference is like a fat person is I don't find that person attractive. It's just yeah They just seem unhealthy. They're not taking care of themselves. Maybe they are maybe they have a Thyroidismes or something that's causing them to be fat, but just in general. I think the general public Don't find fat people attractive and I I kind of touch on that as well because Health right health can be Related to yeah, you're you know your visceral fat, you know Fat on your organs subcutaneous fat all different of the fat so There are people that find that person attractive and they may look at them more than they're physical But we're in a fitness. Yeah, if we're in fitness. We're not saying hey I want to go and get someone who's not like yeah, it doesn't care about fitness at all Whether it be a health problem, that's beyond the fact because I'm not talking to you based on okay I want to understand you mentally right now before I look at you visually and that's what gets my attraction Yeah, and if you oh set Real quick. I just want to say this if you want to do the this comparison Fat women tons of body positivity. Yeah, I see fat women go down dates No problem except and I'll even go this far I think fat women are seen as way more attractive sometimes than fit women and they're pushed and they go on dates They can do fine dating apps Fat men good luck like honestly, I think like I've just think about that I don't know depends on what you're defining is fat And there's a ton of women who are like into the dad bods and like into dudes that look like that I think like with if you're a chubby or woman you're probably gonna have more mixed more success than a chubby man I would imagine just because like not only Is the general society oriented in that direction and women are I think are more attractive in that sense when they're they're Larger than men who are larger Plus you have like the whole like Fetishized, you know big woman curvy guys are super into that there are guys that like specifically seek that out not to mention like The the bbl culture the twerk culture all of this stuff Orients towards having a larger body as a woman whereas as a man you're not really benefiting from Any of those like social trends if you're a fat fat man Years no chance of you being seen attractive at all. So that's all I want that would you guys agree that attractiveness is health I haven't correlated to that. Yeah, for example Like it could be anything your your skin your teeth your hair And if you have a lot of fat on you, it's just not healthy. Yeah, I don't know a lot of People that are fat have passed away and not say that Having muscle makes you live any longer. You know, it just depends on how much you care about typically it does Typically having muscle does help you live longer about your health because usually when you see that the representation is that your health is not important It's just I just want to do whatever I want to do. I just want to get up and just do and not take care of My health for the long term right necessary right now I mean and now if it wasn't a situation like that. Yeah, ozemic wouldn't be around. Yeah, so here. We now we have this ozemic crisis So clearly you're saying that being fat is not attractive and it's not good for you So we're giving you this drug which also then takes you to this point of I don't actually have to do anything To get this sexy. It's true to get smaller. Yeah, so I'm gonna go that route and so then again, they looked at That as oh, yeah, this is what I wanted to do Okay, the ladies are gonna come and this will be interesting. I'm gonna say I'll start off and that is I have met some very beautiful overweight people And what makes them beautiful is the confidence that they carry If they're overweight and they have no confidence, I'm sorry. I don't find them attractive either But if they're confident and they hold that head high and they're just like I'm the shit and they dress that way Okay Gonna say this is a very woman answer Okay, so if let's give an example like who Ashley Graham or like test holiday. These are plus size models. Okay, if test holiday is insecure about her weight It doesn't make her any more attractive when she says she's confident about her weight She looks exactly the same. So it's not really about confidence unless your attraction level is based on something other than the external You're going based off vibes. You're going based off of the energy that somebody gives you So it's not necessarily an answer to the question our fat people on attractive It's kind of like skirting around the question in order to make yourself come off as I guess More tolerant accepting body positive than the root of what you're actually communicating to people She essentially just said but they have a great personality That's essentially what she just would just came out of her mouth So just be honest If that's the way you feel about it or given given opinion that actually Speaks to you finding fat people attractive if that's how you're going to talk about it Also guys will be equally attracted to an insecure supermodel as a confident supermodel If not more attracted to the insecure supermodel because they feel like it'll be an easier conquest So don't think it holds water in the other direction either Great And they walk that way they carry themselves that way They can be overweight and beautiful But the minute that confident drops they drop their head they walk frumpy They dress frumpy and they just don't care Now it's a whole nother ballgame I disagree And part of the thing you just said was I met which already starts off as like Subjectivity And then confidence Anyone can be confident through their accomplishments stuff they do in the daily life But we're talking about physical appearance You've never spoken to no word Would you maybe date them or would you want to marry them just off of their appearance? Nope We're now talking about their personality per se We're talking about just literal health I think you're deviating from the original question was is this obese person Physically attractive not in turn we're not saying as a part as a human person Right We're talking about their physical body I disagree Because if they carry themselves confidently And for a female she has her hair done her makeup done She's beautiful and she can be overweight Are you gonna disagree with that? But this is pure attraction Yeah, she's attractive She's attractive But would you date them? Well the question wasn't would you date them Right, that's kind of implied Is it implied? Would I happily put them? No, let me say this So then you just answered your question I just mean the subject requires nuance If you put a thousand people in a room And you show them a picture of a larger body and a smaller body And you ask them which one is more attractive Most of the people are going to orient towards the smaller body And therefore that can show you what human attraction typically is Now that doesn't mean that there are That all fat people are unattractive or there's no beautiful fat person It's just as saying in a general sense How do you feel about these two different body types? I didn't know, I didn't, I said it's different It's different from dating and sleeping with And finding a person attractive Oh shoot Because I'm actually in the middle of both But me personally I wouldn't want to be somewhere right I need someone that's on my level with me That's able to work out with me That's like I think so you agree with this I think no one's saying attractiveness is not hard working or coughing Well I said I was in the middle of it I was in the middle of it I was also in the middle And I almost stepped forward But I just didn't like You just said obese earlier And that's like That's what I wanted to hear Because I think the issue is that fat Especially Actually I wouldn't even say especially for women For men and women fat these days Is like having a little bit of fat on you Like any Is it? I feel like that's not true anymore whatsoever You know like the old magazines from like the early 2000s and 90s Were there like Britney Spears is looking super pudgy this weekend in Beverly Hills And she looks like a normal woman I think back then we were far more critical Of fat on the body and how it shows up Now I can't think of an example Where we're doing that to anybody Or saying that fat equates to just a little bit of fat On the body That was definitely I guess a comment of a different time Me, voluptuous woman There's people who are saying that they're fat And so if someone's obese Okay you're gonna look at that person You're gonna think That person is Not taking care of themselves They're not healthy That does not You know Shout attractive in any means Typically with someone's overweight There are deeper issues going on there There's so much deeper there So to sit there and just judge them off of parents and just oh you're You're not attractive No, but to say you've been very clear about stating Oh I wouldn't date when it looks like this And automatically assume it's poor health When there could be depression There could be so many You know jubilee never fails And I hate to do this Because it makes you sound like a pick me But sometimes when you put women in these positions To have these conversations They will do anything but have the actual conversation itself Instead of answering the question Do you find this attractive? She's saying Well they have deeper issues and other things going on Not a light to give blanket statements And you never know what they're going through And it might be something other than their health It's like you will say anything But the actual truth of how you feel about this And you're living in that truth In your daily life Every single day with your lifestyle Your choices who you choose to date Who you are oriented towards Why not just be truthful about it And it's because they feel like saying the truth is an attack on somebody When it's not an attack It's very much a neutral statement And it's unfortunate that people perceive it to be an attack But it just It simply is what it is But she just can't be straightforward about that And there are things going on Behind the scenes that are causing them to be overweight And causing them to look that way So just look at the outer exterior And say oh no that's not for me You know because I deal with people all the time And women that want to change Because they've had things go on Where they don't know how Or they're feeling some type of way And then they gravitate towards food Because that is a comfort thing for them And so before they know it this ballooned And it's out of control However being What is out of control signal What does they're dealing with problems That lead them to this lifestyle signal to you It signals that it's probably not the most attractive thing To be living in and to be existing as But she can't say that And overweight is just not something Where you say oh they're just choosing to have poor health They're just choosing and not caring They're just lazy That's just not that's an unfair assumption I think about a person That's what we have to see Okay Okay We'll look first depression Just from a camera I got this ready What happens? Let's see if you got it When Okay let me give you an example She's very emotional Okay You go into GameStop The employee is not a woman It's a man He's overweight He's got physical breast His stomach is hanging out Are you going to give the same Grading scale as you would do with a fat woman Or would you also apply that with that kind of man The type of gradence I know Because you said That means they have When I was in my grades here You said You said okay You don't know if there's an online condition Confident hardworking But when you look at that man In GameStop He's overweight Are you going to say Okay He's either unattractive or he's not Or you're going to say Well Let me get to know him Let me do this No one's saying Someone can be not Can't be nice or Can't be hardworking We're talking about purely Can I ask a question? Attractive A purely attractive Can I ask a question? Yeah Let's paint the picture He's overweight How overweight is he? He's 300 pounds Three He's five five Absolutely not That's ridiculous Why is that ridiculous though? Why is that ridiculous? Because He has confidence Yeah he has confidence He wears your arm He takes questions The question was fat That's obese Sorry That's obese That's what I wanted to talk about Okay Fat overweight obese Morbily obese Like where are we going with this Where what type of line I want to see if she'll draw the line For how she's judging this statement And why shouldn't it walk forward 300 pounds five five is obese True true That's not just fat True Fat shouldn't be so generalized with Based on a certain percentage of body fat Because you're right You have obese Then you have fat Then you have Skinny thin Or whatever Because people have different Arringes they go through So if I looked at all of you guys I wouldn't consider you fat But some people at your side Would probably think I'm fat Yeah And you're not So When you say fat Do you mean overweight? 'Cause I don't know I don't know I'm totally thrown off But yeah The fat's an insult Correct Fat is an insult If you speak to someone in that way And the way you guys were talking When you first walked up To some it's an insult I see a lot within the body positivity movement Of people Proudly calling themselves fat And saying that That's the way that I label myself I'm a fat woman I'm a fat man So Who's to say It's an insult The the aversion to truth Is just so wild to me It's just like They're actually repelling it It's wild I think you all agreed You all were using the word fat When you spoke about it I understand that I understand that But since the time No one switched it around to say So that now Now you're breaking it down Saying okay fat is this And over you know shredded Now you want to take it to a different space But when you were first speaking about it You didn't You didn't share the difference between Being shredded and being considered fat As opposed to the way Someone being obese You were speaking about it As if it was all the same When in fact Being overweight Being fat Being all those They're all different And they're different perspectives Everyone has a different perspective about it And it doesn't necessarily mean That someone has poor health Because they're all away I wouldn't say that Well if you're obese I think you're probably not Well obese is That's different I'm curious to know Like what you all feel About what you've been saying About the whole Women can be fat But men can't be fat thing Because if we're just talking Like thick I think that Women can be thick And it definitely can complement them I think men can absolutely be thick And they look Big they look strong Like women love the whole dad bod thing But then once we get into obese Why? Why the heck When people accept an obese woman More than an obese man I feel like both of them are Equally like Not accepted Well I think And that's probably a different conversation I feel like they're not equally Not accepted This is the way that weight is Distributed on women Sorry my dogs Are also weighing in on this Pun intended The way that weight is distributed on women We just like are more like Cervaceous in the way that we come off So like if you carry extra weight on that It kind of helps you sort of Fill out a little bit With men I don't think it does The same I don't think like fat sits on men the same Of course there are women who are attracted to dad bods But that's kind of like a pudgier version With like a fit man underneath It's not like it's not obesity You know what I mean? How do you feel about that Taylor? Do you think it's like a difference Between being a fat woman and a fat man? I don't know I might just go to like the I forget I heard about like a social experiment once Where a man went to a bar And asked every woman there To sleep with him and like he got virtually rejected by everyone And a woman went to a bar And they're like equally moderately attracted people And asked every person to sleep with them Her every man to sleep with her And they all said yes So that basic fact of humanity comes into my mind too Where it's like if if an obese woman You know is Will she have more opportunity than an obese man? I tend to think yes Just because women in general have more opportunity Than men But as far as the other elements of it I'm not sure how much those affect it Right fair enough Okay we'll keep watching Like any woman is going to do way better than any Like whether she's Oh let's use the word term obese An obese woman can go go to a grocery store And meet someone That's just a fact If you're being a guy is already hard enough But if you're obese That's not accepted And you said also dad bod We are not factoring It's usually if he has a dad bod He might have some money Or it might be like have a skill set That's like But that's their conversation But like But that's my point Is that there's a bunch of other things But obese women or thick girls Or any type of girl Is going to do fine Regardless In terms of just What do you need to think about? Okay wait A thick man A fat man That has bank It's going to do way better Than a thick woman Absolutely no bank His money I don't know about that I don't know It's just like the the threshold is still different As a woman it's so much easier to get attention For men that it is For a man to get attention From women So you'd have to have a lot Moving in your direction As a man To get attention from women And that's just because We are incurring more risk And being in any sort of relationship with you So women I think are You know aiming in a certain direction Where men are like less Less discriminatory When it comes to who they engage with Because they're looking for something different I don't know It just depends on what you're looking for too Like there's the difference Being like long-term relationships Versus somebody just getting Attraction from men Or getting sex from men And that changes the dynamics Totally But I think if you're looking for like a long-term relationship It's probably harder for a fat man That it is for a fat woman To to find that I'd think Yeah, I tend to agree And I think this whole prompt is just Doomed for disaster Because of the use of the word fat And the ambiguity around that Just for interest I asked you guys in the chat Do you consider a dad bod Or a curvy girl quote unquote fat And looks like 60% of you say no 40% say yes So fat is kind of like this blanket term That we can apply to anyone Who's overweight to obese But you know we have like From skinny to normal Which I guess is like You don't look like you work out But you you're not like You know skinny To like athletic To overweight To fat to obese Maybe fats in between Overweight and obese Or you know Maybe it's a blanket time for all of this There's just a lot of ambiguity Around that term specifically Which I think is why This discussion is So off the rails Because no one's really Establishing what they mean When I'm saying fat So I think it's just a huge challenge With this prompt in general Yeah, there's going to be so many Different experiences too It's very very tough I don't know Yeah, you don't know at all Yeah, you'll find out like that You're going to find out like that Because of the way he dresses The way he walks what he drives Some guys hide it though Oh, not very well Because they want to flaunt it Because they don't have anything else to offer Except their money That's a good point I think we're throwing in different variables Yeah Question was do you find fat Be attractive And we were like no, we don't Yeah, ours was pretty simple We were trying to add some nuance So that it didn't sound that we were bad guys But honestly Going back to the question The thing is Is when you look at someone like on a magazine I use that Because that's a pretty baseline for example For a fitness magazine Or a sports illustrate magazine They usually have Representing as attractive Right, someone that's curvy Or a slim petite That's what's shown Fit shredded abs or booty Uh, whatever Because it's a fitness magazine No, but even sporty Yeah, he should have used a different example Than like sports illustrated But I get what he's trying to say Just any magazine ever If I took the totality of magazines That are oriented towards beauty Health, fashion, wellness You are going to find smaller bodies on them Uh, nine times out of ten You know, what sports illustrate But that's what you could, though However, Victorians did it I'm going to say Victoria's secret models They have, they're very You know, skinny And yeah, they even have plus size models now So I don't know I disagree with that I'll be honest I disagree with it Victoria's secrets is Victoria's secrets And should not have plus size models But you said it was attractive I didn't say that You're misinterpreting my words I can't The cognitive dissonance is just So very real here My gosh, just She really said it's all about confidence Yes, like just be real Just be real with what you actually think And you, it's just because people can't be honest People cannot be honest It's easier for fit women to make money Than fit men Okay, I mean duh I don't know How long do we need to linger on this point? How is there any bit of debate on that? I mean, if you're a fit woman You can go to Instagram, TikTok And this doesn't even have to be like sexual content It can just be your day in the life You could be an influencer You can post photos of yourself And get a ton of engagement Now mind you, that engagement comes from men And if men gave that same energy To fit men who were just trying to be successful Then maybe they would be just as successful But fit women are way more likely To get success in that realm Then you mix in the sexuality of it all And you can be more risque To gain more You can do only fans You'll get more I feel like if you're a fit man Who's like trying to I don't know, make money I don't know what else you have You don't have to be like Studied a little bit I feel like I'm trying to think of like the fit men that I see That are like making a ton of money And of course I'm thinking Like through the realm of social media And it's like Andrew Huberman Or like That radical periodization guy Who's like studied all of this like health and wellness stuff Mike Isritale Mike Isritale Yeah, Dr. Mike Isritale Yeah, I'm trying to think outside of that realm Is it easier for fit men or fit women? I don't know I think everything's pretty much orienting Towards women these days Anyways, and it's just going to be easier Yeah, I know Like I have a buddy who's a personal trainer And like, you know He's posting his bodybuilding pictures And things like that And that helps him like have You know, validity with his clients And say yeah, this guy knows what he's doing Because he's getting the results that I want And he uses that for a marketing tool and all that So that's totally valid But broadly speaking I think the disparity that we all kind of intuitively know Is is real here Is just something that reflects human nature And that's pretty much all there is to it So I'm sure we'll get into that Yeah, definitely Future you Faces some big expectations Work out more Go to bed earlier And most importantly Make smart money decisions Thankfully, today you Has Bank of America One place with tools and guidance To help balance tasks from budgeting to saving So you can just be you With big plans Do more with a bank that asks What would you like the power to do? 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I said it's the same thing They take that position Put it on there Yeah, okay Yeah, yeah I turned down only fans constantly Oh my god Constantly Emailing me and asking me Before only fans Yeah, wrestling Mmm, wrestling Yeah, yeah, wrestling Okay, wrestling with girls All the other men You know, the older ones Have wanted to be dominated All the female bodybuilders And fitness tickets They love that And they'll pay Yeah, big time Better willing to pay a lot for that kind Yeah, yeah I mean, women probably Men will pay for anything If you're a woman right now Like, oh my gosh The amount of probably offers That women of all backgrounds All different looks or what Get to do this stuff I mean, it's no wonder why It's such a popular industry these days Because the amount of money That is being Just funneled into it is insane Want to pay for that Stuff for like, to see nine doing that You know If I'm else, maybe there's a select few Right, but See, because we get followers We get more involved Yeah, we get both Where you guys Right, that's why it's I think it's easier for us to grow I think it's easier for women Yeah 100% If you're a man who's like Into the fitness realm of things It's exclusively men Who are following you for the most part I don't think there's any women Who are like, oh, I want to follow This really attractive, you know Bulky guy on Instagram And see what his workout routine Is, it's not happening If you're a woman, women are following you Because they want to be you They want to look like you They want to know what you're doing And then men are following you Because they're like, oh my gosh She's hot, boom, follow Like everything They're commenting on your post The engagement's higher Even if you're a man Who has a really big following From other men I don't View men is being that engaged On social media But like, they're not like What's up, radical periodization Good, good Saturday video Like, they're not They're not commenting that I just don't feel like It's like in their nature to do that So it's got to be harder To be a guy in that industry Trying to make it up there Wild Because of that Because you just got to like Maybe take the booty shot In the mirror And stick it out And then you get like 1,500 likes on your own I want to reply to that And you know, this is a guy What is the guy I got to do? Like, show his abs Yeah, great That didn't even help I did it all the time Yeah, it doesn't mean Women are so heavily sexualized And that's Unfortunate Whether they Like are, you know Like, I'll post things That are, I know are Sexually suggestive And that's like my decision And there's women who are In the fitness industry Who, they don't want that At all But they're getting the same Amount of attention Yeah, see, I don't want that And I don't post it But I get that Exactly what you get Your whole The sexual aspect of it Where I have all the guys And the con I'm like, where are the women? Where are the women? And that's so cool It's hard in like the realm Of like, Jim, where are these days By, I mean, do look what She's wearing I mean, she's wearing the most Like, skin type thing there If she's showing the most there I mean, it's hard with women's clothing I feel like that's Just essentially what you get But like, you don't have to do that And of course, there's going to be men Gocking at you Because you're Week, you can see With what you're wearing What your body looks like We all do it We wear these things to the gym Just don't complain When you're getting that energy from people Given the natural order of things It's just plain and simple All the men are in there liking And I didn't post that Gluchette for you, sir Yeah, it's interesting She says that Because she's absolutely right Yeah I'll post something like, you know Workout video Or I'll post something behind the scenes That I'm filming for something else I'll get some good likes Okay, but then I post like The side boob And it's like, boom You know, it's like All these, it's like Wow, okay, I see where my audience is And my audience is definitely Probably 60/40 You know, men versus women And the women Either they don't step up And actually comment Maybe they like it in the background They're definitely watching Because I see, yeah But they're just not commenting Like the guys do Yeah, you know And women definitely do You recognize that they will get You know, more traction In posting certain ways And like, you can't really blame them For taking advantage of that But one thing that I would say Like, as a woman who has managed to gain Like a substantial following Based off of like a lot of posts like that I find And this is like, I think A little controversial I don't know if you guys will agree But like, a man I feel With like 200,000 followers Is equivalent to a woman with a million Because there's so many women All blowing up for just being hot No one's really caring A lot of the time about Yeah, I get that What you have to offer Like your skills, your talents, your knowledge Whereas like these men Have that influence It's fun Well, I mean, there's a question of Do you have the knowledge? You know, like I keep bringing up RP or whatever But if you watch his content He's literally a doctor Of like, what sports science And it's like everything Like, so he's gained the knowledge That it requires And you can just see the difference And the knowledge that he has Versus what you would typically find Within the fitness influencer realm So like, I thought at the beginning of the video She said she's only been working out For like two to three years So it's like, okay, what? Shouldn't, should people be turning to you? Rather than the man who has 200,000 followers Who's like, study this for eight years And is like building programs for people And things like that I don't know But she does make a point in that Like, the industry is so saturated With like, hot women That I think most people will just generally assume Oh, you probably don't know Like, you probably don't know much About what you're doing You've just gotten this Because that's how other women's Tend to typically like ride the wave Within fitness And if you're a guy who sort of made it up there Like, I'm trying to think of other guys That I know like, like, Jeff Nippard, right? Like, he's super well studied And all this stuff So if you're a guy who's sort of Made it in the industry It's typically because of your knowledge Not because of the way that you look And how people perceive you Does that make sense, yeah? Yeah, or just maybe you've figured out a way to package things Like, I'm thinking of the ATHLEAN X Jeff Cavalier guy I don't know if he's as big anymore But he was a big deal back then But I'm a big fan of Renaissance Periodization Mike Israel-Tel But he's definitely very technical That follow him Because if he's like analyzing He does these like celebrity workout analysis And shows you how they're doing bad form And it looks cool when you're watching it But here's what they should really be doing Or why that's dangerous Or why that's ineffective And I follow him because I want to know what's effective And what's ineffective And I'm interested in the objective truths About working out And on the woman side I sympathize with like You know, yeah If you're just like a woman And you're fit And you want to make fitness content You're going to get a lot of maybe Unwanted attention But I feel like you can kind of Mitigate that with Not playing into that Unwanted attention And not, you know, dressing Or whatever in such a ways That are making content That appeals to the people Who are coming for that They're probably going to come anyway And that's fine But I think if you kind of stay disciplined With your content and your message You can grow the more of the type of audience That you want And I imagine it's tough To get unwanted attention Because of people who are sexualizing you But then I think about You know, is it worse to get no attention And would people rather Given the options Like get unwanted attention Or no attention That's always an interesting product Right, and it's clear That she's made her choice Because she's like, I post sexually suggestive content So you're willing to like Indoor whatever it is you get On the other end of that For the perceived benefits From, I guess Other things that you're interested in I think we can skip the rest of this prompt And we're not going to do all the prompts in this Because I think the prompts towards the end Are just like nothing, nothing prompts But we're going to move on To the next one Okay, guys, I actually really need some I'm terrified of gaining more fat I'm terrified of gaining more fat I mean, I wouldn't prefer it Terrified, it's like I'm super strong Where I'm not like I'm waking in my boots Or gaining more fat But I wouldn't be a preference It's not something that I'm looking to do In the future And I'm like, I'm 24 now So I feel like I'm constantly At that point where women are like Better watch out You know, once you hit 25, 26 You know, the weight doesn't stay off Like it used to You know, you can't just You can't just go to the gym And look shredded after a month anymore I'm like, okay, I'm gonna listen to you We're gonna see how this happens 25, I'm sitting here at 34 And I'm like, man, that's when it's really kicking in And I got to, you know, I put a beach volleyball competitively and I had a match last week And I was like, I told my wife I've been battling some injuries in recent months And stuff like that And I was like, man, I finally felt good I was moving around, I felt fast I was able to jump, you know, hit down on balls And just felt like so good And as I'm getting older every single year It's like, that feels more and more like a luxury And I am terrified of like losing a step I remember I had a kind of a realization A few years ago that like, dude, I am in the twilight Of my physical prime And that, but that just motivated me to like Okay, what is my body capable of? Like, let's get back in there But I guess when you're dealing with injuries, too I'm just grateful to be able to do anything And be participating in the sports that I love And kind of stay generally, you know I thought I can be able to control and move my body How I want to But that's kind of how I've come to think about it more And it's not necessarily that I'm like terrified of being fat But it's more like I want to maintain my body and its ability to do What it's physically capable of doing And the idea of losing that, I want to fight As much as I can 100% Yeah, and you like it just slowly Things happen in your life where you're like Oh my gosh, I really do need to take care of myself And it just like, it shocks you Especially like From your perspective in the 30s From my perspective in the 20s It's like we're at different phases of that Like the first time you seriously hurt yourself in your 20s You're like, oh shit This is real This is real And it's actually way different From like when you're a teenager or when you're a kid And then you just have to like come to that To that realization And as things start to just slow down It's an interesting thing to think about Wow I'm terrified of that over there Again, all the men walk forward For the obvious answer to the thing Terrified, of course, is a strong word But ladies, get your asses up there Please, please And I look at their receipts I mean, one of them looks like they're literally on Anavar And you're telling me You're not terrified of gaining more fat I'm terrified of gaining more fat Because I'm getting on stage And my main thing I compete Okay, one of them was honest Appreciate it Every year And so for me, fat gain is not good Because I'm not gonna look good enough To beat the next competitor I need to be at that top level So if I'm gonna keep in that top Three, top five level I need to always make sure that my Fat gain is at a level where I can maintain it And still build muscle And I'm still doing it Yeah Yeah, me being retired I'm kind of, this is like my kind of off season So I'm kind of like bulkier than I normally would be But even in that sense I'm still kind of self-conscious If I look because of how I used to Look when I was shredded and I was competing So I have that kind of complex now About myself And how I look So Definitely don't want to gain more fat Than I am right now And or be fatter than I am And right now I'm not saying I'm fat But I do have a higher percent of the body fat Than what I would normally have So I'm definitely conscious of that And definitely don't want to gain more body fat I don't think anyone knows I don't know why you guys are sat back there Because it really makes sense I'll speak from like I don't compete Like I'm not at that level at all But Just from like a stepping outside point To like You know Even posting for social media To get like Whether it's modeling shoots Acting or content creation I just want to look My leanness Like I think at some point I was so focused on I was talking to Brandon about this outside Like Really putting up big numbers But I was like Yeah I guess that would be good for me But like What am I presenting out there And so I focus more on like Dieting And really trying to See all the definition possible And as I saw more definition It just It got harder for me to like want to Just be like All right, I'll have one cook It just got It lose what you want to do Yeah And it's like It's a paranoia of like Okay There's like a healthy balance Between these things I will say that I've never ever ever Thinking about my body As much as It seems like Some of these individuals Are thinking about their body And of course you can't help But sometimes it's just like You're naturally Your brain goes there But this can be torturous To a certain extent When you're just constantly Looking at the littlest parts Of yourself for more definition I get that they do it for a career And some of them are Competitors So maybe that adds an extra element to it I'm very conscious of the things That I say online Because that's my career It's what I do So maybe if it were If I were oriented in a career That was more about fitness I would feel the same way But it does seem a little bit Intense to be thinking about it That much Shoot, I really don't want a cookie Yeah, I can't have one cookie I get it The cookies are not good for you But there you go Grass are put on Because I've worked so hard And it's unfortunate Because sometimes it feels like I'm limiting my personal happiness Or like, I'm the weird Guy in the friend group That like, you know, eats kale Spinach and the same thing And ground turkey And boring stuff Like grilled chicken All that And like, man, why are you eating so boring? So that's the struggle But that's kind of why I Have a fear of like, you know There's nothing wrong with that If you're happy with it And like, you don't feel like You're trying to like submit Yourself to something That you don't want to do And we all need a certain amount of that Like doing the uncomfortable thing For the results on the other end Just like, I guess you can usher Yourself into a category Where it's no longer healthy What do they call it, like Orthorexia or something Where people like, truly are freaking out About your food in a way That is like, clinically disordered Put on fat, yeah And I think anyone here With an audience on social media They have a certain expectation of you How you look And some people look up to you And if all of a sudden they see You're putting on weight You kind of letting down a lot of people And there's the pressure to Be your best shape Never, you know Always be shredded, always be jacked And if you put on weight People are going to comment about it You're going to, you know And all of a sudden you're not this Motivational figure that You're supposed to be for it Not a good way to be leading your life Based on the comments You get from people who Do not know you and do not care about you What so ever Would not recommend that At all All these people that fault you Yeah, the reason that I stepped forward Is because I'm not scared of Gaining fat Just like at all in general But for me at the moment right now Um, like I said, compared to Exactly one year ago I am a lot heavier I've gained 30 pounds Over this year I had a surgery And then I injured myself And I had to spend a lot of time Resting And also eating a lot To heal And not lose the muscle that I did have And so I would say I'm She's smiling because she wasn't Exactly telling the truth there But we'll let it slide Because she had surgery And she injured herself But you notice She was very serious And talking about the surgery And the injury And then the smile crept on the face When she started talking about the food Which is fine But again, be honest I'm so, I'm so over it I can't, I can't I'm terrified of gaining more fat Than I have to this point Because I did what was healthy And what was necessary for me Which I think is really important If you're injured Do what you need to do But now I'm at a point Where I feel a lot of pressure Because I have social media To get back to where I was Like as quickly as I can Because I do have people being like Hey, you don't look like you did a year ago Like I, you know, I thought you were shredded I thought you were ripped And like sitting here next to you guys You know, like it's especially hitting me There's definitely a lot of pressure To be a lot leaner And coming from being like 200 pounds It's a really scary thought To go back to where you started as well So, yeah, I'm terrified to progress even more You know, to some people I could be fat because I'm at 5% And to some people you could be fat My standard of fat Because your standard is different You look at it differently You know how we do We look at it different We look at ourselves in the mirror And we'll think Damn, I don't have the frustration Yes, shoulder With the others, you look jacked still We look super jacked You can gain 10 pounds And still look the thing Because people tell me all the time And you always look like that You know I don't There's times when I'm not going to be Body dysmorphia Correct, correct All right, can we have the disagrees step forward? I'm not terrified of gaining more fat Because I know how to take it off I'm very clear about If I am putting on additional weight And or excess body fat I'm clear about what I'm doing That's creating it So I know how to take it off But isn't that what keeps you terrified from? I'm not terrified about it Because of the length of time Maybe it's experience Maybe it's the time, the length of time I've been in the game I do shred challenges with my platform Four or five times a year To teach women the process Of dropping their body fat losing weight I can vibe with that point of view But she wouldn't want to be stuck in the state Of having the extra fat on her I think that's the point But we can play the whole game Where we say, well I know how to get rid of it You know how to do it healthy So I know how to do it So and if you are promoting a platform Where you are not sharing That looking jacked like this Is not sustainable You're not being authentic And you're leading them down the wrong path And you're guiding people into thinking That we look like this all the time When we really don't And there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes That we have to do in order to maintain These physique style we have Men and women It's normal You have ups and downs Abs and flows when it comes to this Fitness game And looking like this Is not sustainable But can we sustain it with proper Healthy habits And just And eat and have a healthy active lifestyle Absolutely we can But I It's not sustainable But can we sustain it I think it's just Okay I don't know how nitpicky do I want to be So that's why I'm not fearful I don't know what you just said I'm not sustainable But it is sustainable I was going to say I agree with you Healthy lifestyle I agree with you And disagree with you About not sustainable The only reason I say that Is because the fact that I'm not terrified Of putting fat on Because I have found the formula To my body My structure Is she naddy? Is she naddy? Are they going to I don't think they ask that During this thing But Towards like I can take it off like that Cutting out entire food groups The worst thing you could possibly do But you're a guy And they're all sort of vegan They're all sort of vegan Females versus males When it comes to what you can eat By putting on fat versus us Your testosterone is higher You're going to run leaner By nature Guys gain fat easily Women gain fat Okay, we gain weight like that Compared to you guys So you can eat more calories You can eat more Shitty food You know, to wear us You can wear it Yeah, you know, wait with it We're us It's like Yeah, if you're in competing And you're in the offices And I remember when I did compete And the next week I'd gain 20 pounds But it was 20 pounds of water Yeah, it was a fat Yeah You know, so You guys are so much It is easier for you to stay leaner So you don't have to worry about that Yeah, but fat looks better on women though To be honest When she said she asked the formula To her own success She means it literally She's literally She's on the substance I know, okay I don't mind a little bit I don't mind a little bit I don't mind a little bit I don't mind a little inject I don't mind a little bit That little layer makes us sexier You're absolutely right I dread Okay, this is our last prompt By the way Let's hear it I dress for attention For attention At the gym Okay This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance Do you ever find yourself Playing the budgeting game? 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And yeah It sounds crazy but he's being honest He's being honest 100% Love the honesty He's being honest And a lot of other men are doing it too But they're not walking forward Think the others here are not being 100% I don't think they're being honest at all They're all in shape They all look good They're all wearing some form of fashionable outfit And they know people are going to be watching that So obviously they're going to put on Something that's going to make Their muscles pop And so you know Because you know When everyone goes home They're not wearing these outfits You know Let's be honest So I don't think they're being honest I think they got to tell the truth And I'm here to disagree with them Can we have the disagree a step forward? You guys are all wired Let's see that copium is coming Yeah, you totally threw yourself in the ass Like the multiple side If I could jump in on this one first I'll let you go first Oh, go ahead though First and foremost I got out of the gym to work Yeah, same I don't go for the attention I go to work And the girls wearing tight clothes Is simply so that we can move I mean, we can't Be so fucking for real right now You wear tight clothes So that you can work What do you mean? What do you- You can't do the same thing in sweatpants You can't do the same thing in a baggy shirt You can't do the same thing And in a long sleeve You can't do the same thing Please We wear tight clothes so that we can move I can't I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't The lack of honesty Is just astounding to me You do not have to be wearing leggings All the way up your ass At the gym So that you can move We're jeans to the gym All right I don't have to wear jeans But you can She did not just say I don't wear jeans to the gym I didn't realize it was going to trigger me so much But I hate it when people are not just straight forward There are plenty of comfortable gym outfits That are sold and marketed towards women That are not tight That are not revealing That are not essentially showing everybody What's your body looks like naked Without you being naked You do not have to wear the things That you wear to the gym Just admit that you choose to And admit that you want To have people look at you Whether it's men or women And even if it's in a nonsexual sense You just want people to see the work you've put in Be honest about that And I can't imagine you'd be somebody who's Who's like oriented towards steroids or anavar Without wanting people to look at you And without wanting the attention It's built in To what you're doing Just be honest Please It also can wear oversized shorts Or loose sweatpants But it's a personal preference Obviously it depends on what you're comfortable with But I feel like They also are aware of who's watching them Whether it's they're competing with another girl to see Who has the better uh but today Actually not necessarily that happy That's all about mindset Honestly coming from different like a perspective Bodybuilding mindset You know this You know this We go in to get our work in and get the fuck out Mm-hmm Excuse my language But that's the truth I'm not there to like look at people Or have people look at me or anything Like I'll look like a friggin bum Most of the time I go to the gym Because why am I there? To improve myself and my physique To get on that stage and look my best Not for someone to look at me Be like oh look at that ass But yeah Okay So when you go to the gym It's all about work Building up to the attention You're gonna get at your bodybuilding competition But when you're at the gym Working towards the bodybuilding competition And how people perceive your For Zeke Which is inherently about attention You turn the attention-seeking part of your brain off Got it Got it Now we can say I go to the gym because I want to be healthy I go to the gym because I want to work I go to the gym because I'm a bodybuilder And that can be 95% of the reason Why you're at the gym But you still have the other 5% Which is you Perceiving how people are perceiving you And probably attention-seeking to To a certain extent Given that the career in your competition Really gives way to that I'll be wearing a pump cover pump shirt But most of the time I'm like wearing an oversized shirt Anything because I'm just in there for me And to work Most of the time What about the other times? Okay But I'm glad this person says I'm wearing a pump cover And I'm wearing baggy clothes At the very least They're not trying to say You know when I wear my gym shark Lace You know, sports bra I'm not looking for attention On myself and to get better To where I get I started going into their Always fully clothed To the point where People would ask me Why you don't show your physique? Because they wanted to see it It wasn't for I wasn't doing it for their approval It was more so for me to just I love, it's hard for me to sweat So in order for me to sweat I need to wear a lot of clothing And so I wear a lot of clothing To get that thermogenic effect Just to get that sweat going And then the time that I'm posing It's really for me I do that at home Or I do it in the mirror at the posing gym I'm not doing it I'm not putting on this And if I wear it The only reason I started wearing tank tops now Is because of social media And I'm going to say What a lot of people don't want to hear Okay There are certain people who do go to the gym fully covered And they're literally not looking for attention There's also another type of person Who's looking for a different type of attention They want to set themselves apart From the people who are showing off their body So they come to the gym fully covered And they know they're getting a different type of attention Like what is that? What's that dude's physique underneath that sweatshirt? Like oh what does he actually look like? I can tell he's a big dude You know he's He's squatting 350 But he's wearing a full sweatshirt So it's like okay You're not attention seeking But you're seeking out a different type of attention Like just be honest We all have these little like psychological drivers In us that are seeking out something in what we do And it doesn't have to be 100% of the reason Why you're at the gym Which is why I think some people like lie And try to distance themselves from it Because they feel like it invalidates Whatever other pursuits they're seeking out of the gym But it's okay We can be honest And sure I There probably exists someone somewhere Who's at the gym And is 100% It's not even a small thought in their brain The type of attention that they're receiving from other people But it is not most people So the fact that only one guy walked up forward And was willing to be honest about this Just shows you like where people's heads are at And in order to boost my acceptance on social media I had to show my gain Show my Jack, show my shredded shoulder, show a show this In order to get people to look at it Because even the way he's talking about himself In order to get the likes on social media I had to show my gain I had to show on Jack I had to show my shredded shoulder And my shredded shoulders He didn't give you one example He gave you three examples Of the different qualities in his physique That people wanted to pay attention to But he's not an attention seeker But that's a choice though But I'm not doing it I'm not going to the gym I'm not going to the gym So by you doing that You are in some form Wanting the attention From the audience to look at you And that's where you're working For the video But the video is still a part of I had to show my sexy Adonis figure for the video I mean people were asking Whether or not I look like a Greek god under this And I had to show them The shredded shoulders In order for them to really understand They wouldn't understand how Absolutely jacked and buff And hard-working and sexy I am If I didn't take my sweatshirt off You I'm doing the video because I'm working Yeah that's not social media We go back in the gym later on If I'm doing my social media posts And I'm doing a workout video Absolutely man I'm wearing slim like To nothing type clothes So that people in my social media Can actually see what I look like But to go in the gym and actually work I've got a baseball hat on backwards I've got a baggy t-shirt And I'm probably baggy pants as well Okay that I can respect Although you were just Fending not doing that But that doesn't speak I would take tops to the gym Not to be attractive If the people are getting attention I wear it because I want to see How my physique is adjusting While I'm training Am I getting a good pump Or the veins pumping out Like that's I look at myself And say okay yeah You're doing the work right That's the only reason why I wear it Just because something looks good on you Does not mean you want attention Does not mean you want people gawking at you When you come to the gym Now I kind of disagree I look like this I dress like this whether I'm shooting my content or not Because my content is authentic I mean it's organic Meaning when I'm You see my sweaty selfie All that's real So I'm taking that photo When I'm in there After I finish working out But I don't come to the gym Dressed a certain way Or dressed like I normally get attention Because what my physique looks like Okay I can't help but get attention Because of that And so I'm not gonna go in there Do you wear this exact outfit To be on the house to watch TV To mo you No I'm wearing something more This is gym This is my fitness wear This is acting So if I'm at home I'm in something totally more comfortable But to be honest So I go to the gym And I'm dressed to make content Which I know is going to get attention But I'm in no way Looking around the gym that I'm at To see if I'm getting any attention For the stuff that I'm filming To get attention in another realm Of my life This is like a uniform I wear it all the time The leggings You know but I'm not I have a certain physique It looks a certain way No matter what I put on I can put the baggy jogging pants on And a sweatshirt And they can still see my ass through the And wow And I still get the same amount of attention I think I kind of understand what's going on here So You can work on You can go to the gym Be like I'm here to work on you I think that There is some nuance here Yes I am going to the gym To improve my body It's not about What other people's goals are for me It's for myself But You would be disingenuous to not acknowledge that In some level You know You comb your hair You brush your teeth You make sure that you're smelling Maybe have a good fragrance on In the gym You're wearing shorter shorts And your abs are going to be showing And you know It doesn't mean like Oh I want girls to come up to me But it's like You're thinking okay There might be someone Who I want to present myself well to Doesn't mean you're going to speak to them But you want to present yourself well Because You know as a fitter person Specifically You're going to naturally have more People look at you And then If you take the social media aspect of it If you're an influencer I know You know that people are going to be Looking at you As a pinnacle Oh what are they wearing How does How does their body look So Are you really going to tell me You're going in there Not Thinking about that at all And not It doesn't mean that Oh you're narcissistic Or you're not going there for the right reasons But I do think that There is some element of I'm presenting myself For either Social media Or around People Or my community In the best attractive Or maybe let's take attractive out of it In the present yourself In the best light What do you think about it? Yes but wanting to present yourself in the best light Getting up in the morning doing my hair I'm putting it on co-op perfume Or it makes smell good Putting on a cute outfit It doesn't mean that I'm going Doing that for attention It means that's what makes me feel good Yeah you're getting the attention That's how I enjoy your stuff It's listening That's secondary Just because I happen to get attention from It doesn't mean that I am Taking those steps And doing those things Because I'm in my mind And when I get to the gym Oh yeah I get all eyes on me Not actually I don't want all I know I'm gonna get it He literally said it's not about being narcissistic And then she says I don't want all eyes on me And makes a narcissistic argument For why somebody would want to do that If you were In the middle of nowhere And the gym had zero people in it And you knew you were going to the gym And there was going to be nobody there There would be no makeup There would be no perfume or cologne Or whatever it is you're doing There you'd probably wear I don't know Whatever it is that you want to wear Maybe it's baggy clothes Maybe it's tight clothes I don't know But you certainly would not be Doing these things That supposedly just make you feel good Because I think we need to acknowledge That our feelings of Feeling good In some part are also about An analysis of how we're being perceived By other people When you put on perfume Yeah okay it smells good to you Or whatever okay But I also know that I'm going to walk past other people Who are going to say Oh she smells good Or at the very least They're not going to be like Oh she smells bad And it's not because you're an attention-seeking narcissist Who wants everybody to smell you Or like wants their eyes on you It's just a fact of life But I don't want you bothering me I'm in the gym to work out Literally And here's the thing I put my headphones on So I have to time They're not even on I'm being honest But it's just to keep the guys away And keep people from bugging me While I'm in there doing my work And getting my workout in And I'm going to take my selfie Whether I'm sweaty or not Because it's authentic I'm putting out authentic content So the people you're talking about They get dressed up Just to go to the gym to film content That's totally different Everyone here is speaking for themselves I'm speaking more from a I'm just going to say A realistic standpoint of Most people that go to the gym I mean The fitness In the clothing industry Is worth billions of dollars Not because people are just going there to You know, whether they have headphones or not They know that people want to present themselves In a way that's going to get them Feeling like Oh Hey, Susie just commented me Or John just said Oh, looking good today That's a part of it I disagree with you Because, okay, first and foremost You're super young Okay You're in there to hit it You're in there to pick up You're in there to get dates Why not? We're going to We can give a shit To be honest You don't think that that woman Is just over the moon Anytime somebody says Oh my gosh, you're so fit for your age If she wants to make it about age It's very clearly a driver in what she's doing And to think that that's not a different type of attention Because you're not looking for sexual attention Just makes absolutely no sense Oh my god We're going to finish out this problem That I'm done, y'all I'm done That was enough for me And that's, there's the difference Okay, and that's the end of the prompt My bullshit meter Is running at a thousand Yeah It's short circuited This twins We're going to get into your super chats And hear from you guys today All right Yeah Okay, Percifone Cabot is our first one Who says Hi, this is my first super chat I just wanted to say I've been going through a rough time And you guys always make my day Oh, that's so sweet Thank you so much I appreciate that And you get a little time for it Being your first super chat Wendy says hello to You can hear him He's had a He's had a rough day guys down there He's very upset The text in '83 says The short blonde hair one Looks like one of the American gladiators From back in the day Lori Fettrick I don't know who that is I'll have to look her up Look, look them up No, she's buff She's buff DTX hero 21 The gym is traditionally a masculine space The fitness center Is traditionally a feminine space Now the gyms, like you said Pretty much a 50/50 space For men and women Yeah, I think it just progressed over time I never heard like the fitness center Being for women Yeah, I'm not sure But I could I guess you're just saying I would like the end of it Have like these like Gold's gym And those types of like Super hardcore Like, you know Pumping iron type gyms And then nowadays Like the more popular like LA fitness Or planet fitness or whatever Is definitely more 50/50 But then you got to think about like What about the yoga studios And the Pilates places And all that Like those are Those are much more feminine Right EWB says If you ever get into fitness You realize no one knows What they're talking about on my own Yeah, I mean there's a lot of that There's a lot of that And then you kind of have to seek it out You can sort of get a vibe from somebody When they do know what they're talking about But it's so crazy Like now that I've I follow a few fitness people Who are just like very clearly Well versed in it And it doesn't mean you need a degree or anything It just means that you're well versed And you can have that in so many different forms But you see them just break down Other people's workout videos Or like the celebrity workout videos And you're just like Wow It's crazy Even like the most elite in our society Are getting really really bad Fitness advice and paying An exorbitant amount of money for it Chicken pork adobo says I stopped going to the gym Because there were too many hot men / women and too many men / women Thinks they're hot Too many distractions Home gym for the win Too many distractions You were distracted by the hot people But also by the fact that they think they're hot Understandable You know For me the gym is very overstimulating So it's almost like an extra Hill you have to jump over just to be there Because you know like the environment is For me not conducive to wanting to To work out Yeah, I guess I'm fortunate here Because with the time change Like omeles in LA I'm here in central time in Nashville So the time I go to the gym Is right after the main You know morning wave leaves I usually go around like nine Because we don't usually start filming Til 10 or 11 months on So it's it's a lull But there's been a couple of times Where I go At a different time go earlier Go late at night And I'm like it's It's the one I'm like I'm leaving I'm not doing this So I've like Having the not a lot of people there for sure BM trouble you Says the gym is daunting for first-timers It takes a while Til you're less self-aware And realize 99% of people Are just trying to do their own thing Yeah, yeah You just have to think Like nobody's really like Caring about you all that much Of course you're going to get looks And like of course People are going to look at you And think things That's just a reality Of just being around people, period But it's not as like Preciousized as I think people Make it out to be in there In their head Yeah, and you're there you got an assignment Like you know that's more important Than what someone's thinking So just do your thing And you know Let people do what they're going to do And also the people who are like Most self-absorbed Are often the ones looking around the most as well To like see if you're looking at them And also because they're Projecting their insecurity onto you And trying to like Get a read on you Yep Alex Lusher says off topic But with Disney releasing their new White film in a couple months I feel this needs to be said Rugrats no white Greater than Disney's no white I don't know if I've seen the Rugrats no white I watched Rugrats growing up But I don't remember It's no white I would have to look into this Interesting Interesting Yeah, I'm going to see Wicked At some point In 3D That's going to be an experience So uh I'm not curious to see that film But I don't know Snow White I guess I'm going to have to see that too When it comes out We'll see We were talking about this before the show Are y'all are y'all seeing Wicked And are y'all seeing Gladiator Guys especially if you're watching I was I loved Gladiers When I'm like top 5 or 10 movies With my life growing up But I was not interested at all And seeing Gladiator too Just didn't sound appealing Whatever But apparently they're trying to make it Glick it Like it was Barb and Hymer last year With like Gladier Waking being like Barbie and Oppenheimer But it doesn't seem like it's reach I mean I think Wicked is probably a way Bigger proposition Than then Gladier to the summer round Definitely Almost said Top trying to make fetch happen Don't try to make that happen Exactly Do we don't need another Barb and Hymer We really don't It was a one-time one deal But speaking of someone who did Barb and Hymer last year with my wife We actually went and watched both movies On the same day Wow that's crazy Yeah Which is really out of character for us But we did it Nicodema says Good evening Regarding appropriate outfits A middle ground could be found By applying the same kind of rules To those For swimsuits allowed Or not In indoor public pools Thank you both For swimsuits allowed or not Applying rules? What's allowed And who's gatekeeping As we've seen in 2024 What are the rules? Fill me in in the chat down below Don't send in to the super chat But just let me know Let me know Komeru Miyamada Says Hi Omele and Taylor Finally had a chance to send a super chat Love watching you guys While working out Greetings from Brazil Thank you so much Super cool When you're watching us while working out This is the perfect video Perfect video for that Isn't it? I remember Maliandu The word for working out in Brazil I think it's a slang word But I think it's Maliandu Maliandu So enjoy Definitely the zero Your work out there David Dawn A&T Happy Tea Day Will be driving on Wednesday He stole my super chat LOL I was going to say the same About Joey Spole Getting his platform from judgment There we go Yeah From people not being at the gym To just be at the gym Certainly Certainly there's plenty of that Which is like okay There's plenty of people in different places Who are not there to be there For whatever the place Is for whatever Who cares Oh for TUPS Says first super chat Wanted to say that I truly appreciate your takes Amala, you Blair White Brett Cooper and Brad Polumbo Open my eyes before the election Hey Cool That's a cool squad To be in association with I appreciate that Thank you so much Thank you At Timothy W Hey you too Hope you all are doing great Amala did you see the new story Regarding the French budget Impossible government shutdown With Marine Le Pen No way did not I've not seen that I'll have to check that I saw a bunch of French girls With their Yiddies out In some video that's going viral on twitter Where they're protesting And their shirts are off I don't know what's going on there What that's about But I've seen that Seen that Yeah didn't They had that like Special election Or whatever That Macron called about 11th hour to prevent The right from taking over But this looks like There's still some And our key chaos going on And French people Having revolutions Who thought it? Shocker No I have to check it out Unhinged honey badger Says speaking only for myself I want a bigger butt Because I know that will make Be better able to lift things Okay It's a consequence Yeah I guess it's the side effects It's like the So you want to lift things Is that Right you want to lift things You don't want the bigger butt Yeah That would be a side effect Right Chicken pork adobo Says what does fat mean? There's dad-bought in bear Categories So some people see that It's very attractive What do you call fat women category? I'm saying if you If you go to the doctor And the doctor says you're overweight That's my classification for that I think Yeah and there's like Technical definitions Based on BMI For like what's overweight What's obese What's morbid obese And you know So I think in common Parlance People don't really Make reference to those But That's why we have so much Difficulty discussing These topics But it was Right Um Let's see Legitly Spelunky Says your size impacts What you can and can't do I won't date someone Who can't keep up with my active Wifestyle Regardless of how they got there Yeah If you're like physically fit And you happen to be in a bigger body Whatever, sure Fine you can like Go around and do things I'm not particularly oriented Like as far as like Attraction to those To those people But uh Yeah I mean that's fine But it is at the end of the day More so about like Health and natural selection That it is anything else Yeah with fit And so someone mentioned like When I talked about the natural selection Point earlier Like well Have you ever heard of Just being healthy? That's a thing But it's like that The fitness is a proxy for health And like for men It's a proxy for You know Are you able to Compete? Are you able to Have the physical strength To face threats And things like that And for women It's are you fertile And it's a proxy for those things So I think that You know There's still correlation there And hopefully That wasn't lost in my point Otaku says If women really did incur more risk You wouldn't be dating the f-boy Back to back And cry Where are the good men Refusing to take accountability Well I don't think that's You can say that women ignore the risk That they incur And choose to be with f-boys But the reality is That women do incur more risk And sexual encounters Uh Than men do You don't get pregnant You don't carry a baby for nine months You are not Saddled with that child Where a man can just go Wherever he wants After all is said and done So No matter what women take On more risk And being in sexual encounters Than in relationships with men Than men do It's just in a natural sense But women ignore that And still date f-boys Yeah sure Totally Uh EWB says As someone who has fluctuated And weight my entire life Attracting women is far easier When you have less fat It's not even close Yeah It's true It's just true It's just the truth Over easy egg Fitness podcast Into my day Out like fitness podcast Fitness podcast Very good Also people would say This is hateful But it's only honest I just don't find excess fat attractive It looks gross Yeah I mean that's Totally within your right to say that We actually have a video tomorrow Coming out About this girl who's getting Flamed on TikTok Because she says She's skinny and she loves being skinny And now everybody's calling her fat phobic And saying it's a An atrocious thing to say So we'll be reacting to that Tomorrow Hi says Taylor Please tell Hama that she is so pretty And I love her hair And ask her where she gets her clothes from That's so kind Thank you so much Um uh Fashionova Zara That's really about it Fashionova and Zara For the most part Yeah Here you go Sponsor us Please Minnesota Nice says Hey there Hey and Tay Zara for exposing you Taylor But you have a dad bod Be better LOL Just playing love the show That 101 video was crazy What do you respond to that? I don't think Taylor has a dad bod That bods are in now Yeah Aren't I? Hi Hi Whatever I could I know I know this person And that's why they're crowning me And I could say things But I'm not going to I'm gonna be nice Taylor's gonna go with this one Alfredo Orkeys says I don't dress for attention at the gym Nor when I run I do however dress for attention When I go anywhere Else There you go See some Yeah I can see that as a man too You're just like I'm in the gym I'm gonna go get my My business done I definitely There are definitely times where I'm like Okay I want to I'll dress and be like little nice Or looking at the gym But for the most part Just because of what I do I don't want to be seen at the gym For me I'm like I don't want to be working out And like sometimes You guys are subscribers You'll be at the gym You'll walk up to me And I'm like Hi Button looks sweaty And disgusting And gross and horrible And somebody's walking up And saying hi Which Please still do Please still say hi But It's an easy different vibe I think Yeah There's an element of like the whole Dressing for attention thing It's like when you When you leave your house You are addressing For attention But not necessarily To gain attention But like In preparation of the Attention you're going to get No matter what So like It's being Prepared to like Okay Am I Is the image I'm presenting When I'm out in public In line with like You know The type of image that I want to portray That is not going to send The wrong messages about me It's not necessarily about Sending messages of inviting To attend extra attention It's just about like I It's like I keep thinking about In the in the movie The Matrix When they When they take They take Neo Keanu Reeves Out of the Matrix And then when they plug him back in And like train him about what it is He's all of a sudden When he's out of the matrix He's got like a shaved head He's got all these plugs in his body He looks nothing like You know What he actually looks like In the real world But when they plug him back in He's like Oh my gosh I don't have any plugs I have my hair back And he's like Yeah this is your mental image Of your digital Self And I think we all kind of have Like the mental image Of what we're supposed to look like That we When we're getting dressed When we're getting ready to go out It's like we're You know We have our Our fashion sense It's like That you're just Putting out the image into the world That is Commensurate with how you see yourself And you know It's not necessarily this Narcissistic thing It's just kind of like Who you want to have People deviate And get narcissistic Or people have a lack of self-awareness And look like a You know a crazy person But yeah Generally I think That's mostly how it works And a lot of this like Judgment can be avoided If we just be honest about that Okay Alison Sable says Do you think the war in Russia And Ukraine will escalate And come to the US I've been pretty scared lately Love you girl Oh girl I've got no idea I was actually just watching a debate Between like Four people on Piers Morgan over this And I'm getting a lot of information from it I don't think so I like I I'd hope not I don't think that's our plan From a From a foreign affairs standpoint But honestly I Could not tell you I just think like with With how powerful our military is And just like how A war coming here Or us getting involved over there with luck I think people would Will try to do Anything but that Before You know That is the case So Yeah Yeah A lot of invested interest And continuing conflict And you have like Biden's recent actions Like seemingly Deedlessly escalating it Before he leaves office Yup You know you've got Trump promising to de-escalate things And hopefully That's the direction we move in In the coming months Yeah It's just like yeah With the military industrial conflict I guess you never know What's going on behind the scenes And who's pushing for what? Uh Alyssa Cottum says What advice would you give Someone who loves the gym But is insecure And therefore scared Of what others may think And then in parentheses Me Oh yeah I don't think he just Wasn't clear He just got to swallow it You just got to swallow it And show up and do your thing And you know That's really You have to understand Like the things you're insecure about Are not a true reflection Of reality It's like you're painting the darkest image Before you've even done the thing And honestly it's a lot It's a lot better Than the image that you're painting In your brain You have to just like Over overcome that Yeah Uh Nicodemus says In France Indoorpool No bikinis for women And no loose swim shorts for men No loose swim shorts You got to wear tight swim shorts You get very strange You got to wear speed up And they got to see what you got going on down there I don't know I did not know that Wow I do remember I was shocked when I was a kid My parents and missionaries We moved to Brazil When I was like 13 And at the beach Like the women wear Dogs It's just normal Culturally And the men wear You know Speeders Comsunga Or Tunga Yeah And my and my brothers Were just like Until my older brother got one Just to be funny And then it's just kind of like this Joke I couldn't bring myself to But yeah That was back too When like You had like the big giant Bored shorts with flower patterns and stuff Sure yeah Kind of silly now these days But I guess in France We'd be kicked out of the pool For that stuff Yeah All right A couple more here Okay Sophie Shaw says Hi from the UK First time watching live Much love Cool First time watching live Time for that Thank you so much Uh G Mackian says Got to say it's so interesting How people take attraction so personally They're definitely worse things Than being unattractive to other people Yeah 100% I mean From an evolutionary standpoint You don't want to be like too unattractive And I can see how somebody could get overly Consumed with that idea But we are so focused on the opinions Of so many different people at this point In our lives And with How sick our society is That it's truly overwhelming And I think people do need to realize It's not the most important thing In the world For you to be attractive To a billion different people At any given moment Say Jay says My first super chat And my first time catching you live Funnily enough I just came back from the gym So this was meant to be You guys are awesome Keep speaking out much love Great Thank you so much For your first super chat And wow You guys are getting your fitness And a lot of A lot of gym super chatters Today Good for you guys And we're here for you Mm-hmm Uh Kennedy says Amelie we need you to make a workout channel So I can work out with you And your motivational words You don't want You don't want to work out channel for me And it's going to be the worst form The worst advice I wouldn't even give advice Given the state of my uh Of my workout plan So I'm not to be trusted With the influence over your workouts In your fitness Y'all can look up the video we did With uh Cam Haines Woo! And you see Amelwood Ooh Binge pressing And right here The noodle arms The noodle arms Oh yeah right Somewhere on the channel But uh um Do we have any more here? I think we might be all caught up Yeah that was our last one of the day All right guys Thank you guys so much for hanging out We were a little late today To do technical difficulties But you guys came And you showed up anyways Which we appreciate Thank you so much for watching Drop your thoughts on everything we covered In the comments down below Let me know what you think As always if you disagree with anything I said in this video Do get out but do so respectfully We encourage healthy debate on the channel And if you like this video Like, subscribe Click the notification bell to be notified Every single time we're live That's Monday, Wednesday, Friday 1 p.m. Pacific 3 p.m. Central 4 p.m. Eastern 8 p.m. Universal time And we'll be back tomorrow With a video about whether or not Saying that you love being skinny Is fat phobic Always interesting Always something new guys I will see you tomorrow Bye (gavel bangs)