The Jordan Syatt Podcast

I'm Running for President....

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In this episode of The Jordan Syatt Mini-Podcast, I shoot the breeze with my podcast producer, Tony, and have an in-depth conversation inspired by a listener about what I would do if I were President, specifically around health and fitness.

You can listen to my episode where I discuss setting boundaries and understanding narcissism with Dr. Josh Smith HERE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jordan-syatt-mini-podcast/id1348856817?i=1000676379596

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Duration:: 1h 4m
Broadcast on:: 01 Dec 2024
Audio Format:: other

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Get 10% off your first order. Merrickhealth.com/side for 10% off your first order. I highly recommend it. With that said, let's get into the episode. And we're rolling for a quarter brother. How are you Antonio? Good morning. I'm good. Didn't sound so well you were on it. No, no, thank goodness. We must establish a pea corner. So we had to carry a bunch of tools up like for flights of stairs and boxes and things. Yeah. And I was so glad that you left. I work out. Yep. Yep. That's why you do it. But I still feel it like I still feel my calves a little like I was like, man, I should do loaded carries on stairs more. You know what? Because you had to go up and down, right? Yeah, although all the weight was on the way up. Yeah, but there's no eccentric on the way up the eccentric. So I remember must have been two years ago now. Actually, no, there's more than two years ago because my wife was pregnant. We had a fire alarm in our building in downtown Dallas and we lived very high up, like super, super, super high up. And it was funny because no one else was leaving the building. Like we're the only ones leaving it and we were both like, this is weird. Like the fire alarm has never gone off before. We saw fire trucks outside the building, like starting to come. We're like, we're just going and no one else left. Like no. Anyway, we go down all the flights of stairs, like many, many, many flights of stairs. The next three days, my calves were just and I didn't go up. I only went down. It's the eccentric overload on the way down that really wrecks your muscles. But yeah, the calves. Anyway, I'm glad you lift, bro. I'm glad that you do that. Yeah, I was like, man, this is it was also telling for my conditioning, which isn't as good. Just I just haven't been as consistent as I should be. And so it was telling. It's like, yeah, like you're breathing hard at the top of that fourth flight of stairs, dude. Like I might not be as set in the zombie apocalypse as I as I would like to think I have step one limber up. Was that for a show that you're doing? No, so I'm doing a install. So basically we're putting in like a brand new sound video lighting system in an old historic building. Oh, cool. And that involves like pulling cable through walls and mounting speakers on things and putting it all together, making sure it works. And it's good for the end user. So it's fun. It's definitely a cool change of pace. But like for the next week, I'm going to be like general contractor labor, essentially. Got it. Got it. Yeah. Nice, man. Well, good. What's your word of the day? Bessado. Bessado. Yeah. Bessa. Okay. I'm assuming it has nothing to do with pesos. Are you googling right now, bro? Dude, I wanted to go see what it was. That is not allowed. What is it? It's funny because the screen lit up. And so I immediately got right. You're like, I know this guy's on a different screen right now. That's called the sheeting light. And it shows me when you're cheating. Yeah, dude, I was like, I want to go see it. It has nothing to do with money, right? It does not. But that's really good because like pesos are like, you know, a denomination of money in a lot of Spanish-speaking countries. Right. Right. So what is it? And I have a feeling that there's a cognate there. So we'll talk about that. But Bessado means heavy. Like Bessado means a lot. And it has like a kind of like heavy in English. It can also mean like, oh, man, that's heavy. Like that sucks. Like that's interesting. That's a drag. I didn't wake Bessado. But yeah, in this context, I mean like, oh, man, that weighs a lot. Do you think that might come from? Is there any way that comes from a time when they would like weigh a certain amount of like a coin? So that would be my theory. Yeah, like you've melted out gold or whatever. And Besso is like, this is the weight of gold we use as our like standard transaction. So that dude, that's exactly how it works in Hebrew. Is it? Yeah, a shekel is like the currency. But weight is like Miskar. So like shekel Miskar, like the root is the same. So and that would probably come from like, yeah, we're going to weigh out. Like this is how much of the coin that you're going to have that that's so interesting. Yeah, cognates are awesome. I have so much fun with them. Interesting. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Okay, very cool. I like it when they make sense. I like it when you can all you can get an idea of what they're talking about just from the root of the word. It's very, very cool. Is shekel your word? Are you gonna you're gonna hit us? No, one, two points. I was gonna go with a different one. Shekel is just like the currency. It's just like dollars, shekels, yen, all that stuff. One of my favorite words is balagan. Balagan. Balagan. That is a fun word. Balagan is a very fun word and it's like when it's an absolute mess. It doesn't like you could say like, oh my god, the house is a mess. The house is a balagan. But like any like crazy situation, it's a messy situation. Like you can use it in a good term. You can use it in a bad term. It's a balagan. Like it's a yeah, balagan. I like balagan. Yeah. So what's a like what's a sentence you would use in like a positive context? So like, I mean, you could use it in a positive context on the perspective of like, if it's a party, like it's like, it's a crazy part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about again. Like it was it was nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. I'm just like flashing back to 20 something year old Jordan. Oh, yeah. When I had like the the lines shaved in my head, doing kettlebell workouts and tours on the wall. Bro, I had a kettlebell necklace. Really? So yeah, I had a kettlebell necklace. I thought it was so sick. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. You know, if there's something about kettlebells, when I first started doing like kettlebell training, and I like got really into it, and I was actually going to like a strong first trainer for a while, which was really nice. Nice. And I just remember like, you know, it's like, you're buying workout gear. And I was like, I got one that had like the kettlebell silhouette on the front. And I was like, this is badass. There's like something about it that and like, with a little bit of hindsight, I'm like, nobody cares. Like nobody thinks that's cool. Like, dude, I wanted a kettlebell tattoo for a while. I'm really glad that I didn't do that. The thing with kettlebells is like, it's it feels super primitive. Yeah. Right. It feels primitive. And it's very athletic in nature. And there's also an inherent level of pain that will come with it, especially when you're learning like the cleans and the snatches, because especially when you're learning, the kettlebell is going to be hitting your forearm and eventually you can get really good and the pain will be there. It'll be desensitized and you'll be more efficient with it. But then even like with the snatches and cleans and stuff, like your hand's going to rip. The more you do it, like there's a level of counts. Yeah. Like, yeah. And I think that anytime there's pain, if you're willing to push through that pain, there comes a certain level of pride, a certain level of connection to the tool that you're using. So, yeah. Yeah. Cattlebell tattoo. All right. So kettlebell. I think you should start like talking about kettlebell training a lot in like March of 2025. Okay. And in April, you should get a fake kettlebell tattoo. All right. Oh, that's yeah. Just let me like almost a prank. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But like, I think, well, we'll see. We'll see if Nini listens to this or not. But I think you should try to pull it off. Oh, then the inside too and see what see what you can get. And for the people who don't listen to the podcast, you'll know, you will know who listens and who doesn't. Yeah. Oh, dude. Yeah. 100%. Oh, by the way, we passed 10 million downloads. Wow. Do you see that? It is a bad idea. Yeah. We got 10, 10 million downloads. That's insane. Yeah. Huge thank you to everyone who listens. It's just, it's an amazing blessing. And yeah. Thank you. It's really, thank you. It's, it's really extraordinary. But even then, the vast majority of people who follow me across platforms don't listen. So it's a, it's a relatively small number of people who consistently listen, which is just like, I love that. It's a really great community. And your support means the world to us. And it's very, very cool. It's very, very close. It's my favorite but I think your podcast listeners are your best followers. No, it's without, it's not even close. It's actually, it's not even closer the best. You're listening for at least an hour every, like often every week, you're inherently more invested in the nuance and learning. I've said it so many times, maybe not on the podcast, but I would rather have 100 people who listen to me for an hour than 100,000 people who can barely watch three seconds of an Instagram video. The podcast is, it's probably a self-fulfilling prophecy in that like, it's my favorite piece of content because I know the people listening are actually open-minded. The people listening are actually like willing and invested and ready to listen. Whereas, like, I never go to battle over podcasts, ever. Like, I never, no one is ever messaging me like, I can't believe you did this on the podcast ever. And we talked about some pretty controversial stuff, but there's always nuance with it. Whereas on Instagram or even YouTube, battles happen all the time. Like, I got in one yesterday, this guy was like, I know who you voted for. And from a video I posted about a RFK eating the McDonald's, the picture of the McDonald's, it's like, I can tell who you voted for. And I was like, who? And then he said who he thought I voted for. I was like, no, that's not who I voted for. He was like, well, to be fair, I didn't watch the whole video. It's like, bro, what the fuck? Number one, like, you can't tell who I voted for from the video. I pointed out both sides have made serious mistakes, which if you can't point that out, then you're out of your fucking mind. But anyway, the people who listen to the podcast, they appreciate nuance. They respect nuance. They're open-minded. It's like, it's one of the reasons I love doing this. I don't love making Instagram videos at this point. I love making podcasts. I love them. It's so fun. Talking to you. I love doing it with you. I love the one I do with Mike. I love it when I do it with Susan. I love it when I do it with Inner Circle members. Like, I love doing podcasts. I think it suits you. And just an observation, while you were talking about podcasting, you were smiling. Your voice was relaxed and happy. As soon as you started talking about Instagram content, it went negative. You were talking about a bad experience with a person that was mean. Your voice changed and intense stuff. I saw it right before my eyes. I don't know if the listeners can hear that, but it was very obvious to me. That's so funny. It's true, man. You can tell just based on how I talk about it, how I feel about it. I'm investing a lot into the podcast studio and the new house. I'm so excited for that. I'm so, so, so excited. Actually, I'm talking right now, because I've spoken about how I don't just want to do fitness stuff. That will obviously be the major part of it, but also other things as well. One of my first guests is going to be a Holocaust survivor. Wow. I'm very excited to bring him on and have him talk about his experience. There's not a lot of people left that were around that. That's literally one of my major motivations for doing is because I want it on record and I want a platform for any of them, but for especially like there aren't that many left. I want it recorded. I want it. I want to have this conversation so that people can always go back to it. Yeah, no, that's amazing. What do you say we dive into the Q&A? Yeah, let's do it, bro. Do you want to do a Q&A or do you want to do the, remember I texted you last night? Oh, I misunderstood you. I thought you wanted that as part of the Q&A. Oh, okay. Yeah, we can do that for sure. Unless you think it's a whole episode. Dude, I have no idea. But let's go into the Q&A and then we'll make it part of the Q&A. Okay. And then we'll see how long it goes. Cool. I bet everyone's real curious. Real curious. So just for a little bit of context, we're going to be, I think we publish episodes at this point like six to eight weeks behind just because we have a lot of backlogged. This one is going to be pushed ahead. So this one is actually recorded on November 21st. I can't believe it's already the 21st. So I would like to publish this one either this weekend on Sunday or the following week at the latest because I think this is one that like there's a lot of timing related to it. It's very, it's still like top of mind for people and the whole concept of the presidential election and the idea of like, what would I do if I was president? So well, let's just, let's just get into it then. Let's just straight into it and see what happens. So last night, you texted me a screenshot from Instagram, the happiest place on earth. And the question was, what would be the first thing you do as president? Yep. And to start this off, you were sort of giving us a preamble now, but I'm curious why this topic excites you? Well, I think just right now, you know, we just had a presidential election. So it's definitely top of mind for me and a lot of people. So it's top of mind. And it's regardless of the outcome, it's always exciting by definition, just because it happens once every four years and people are excited to see who will be leading the country. But I think especially at least for probably the first time in my life, and it might not be accurate for someone who's been through more presidential elections. But I do feel like it's different now because of social media, we're seeing, I feel like people see a lot more of what's actually going on. They're much more invested in former years, maybe I'm mistaken. But for example, we're paying super, super, super close attention to who is being appointed and what initiatives these people being appointed are going to run, like what what their plans are, what their policies are. And I think one of the reasons we're paying more attention to it now is because they have more of a platform to discuss it, whether it's podcasts, whether it's on their own platforms, like social media, Instagram, whatever it is. And so what's been coming up a lot is RFK's make America healthy again, what he's saying he really wants to focus on. And I don't know, I don't know, and I've studied history a lot. I don't remember, or I haven't seen a time in which someone who's leading the Department of Health and Human Services or anyone in one of these positions is really openly discussing what exactly they want to do, what exactly they want to ban, what exactly they want to substitute in terms of foods, in terms of exercise, like what exactly they want to make happen. I don't ever remember seeing that before. And I think it's sort of shaken up the world, or at least the United States at the very least. And I think the world is very much impacted by it. They're like, holy shit. Because I've never heard anyone be like, now it's a real common discussion to be like, okay, well, these foods are banned in the United States, but they're not banned in Europe and those foods are banned in Europe, but they're not in the United States. And now people who otherwise have had zero education on this are seeing posts from either politicians or people who support the politicians and acting as though they really understand it when in reality they may have been misled. Anyway, it's becoming a big topic of conversation. And so with that in mind, someone asked me what would be the first thing you do as president? I was like, man, this for me, it was an opportunity to discuss what I think the real big rocks of fitness and health and nutrition are that I just thought it was an interesting way to phrase the question as opposed to because I get a lot of questions about what do you think of RK? What do you think of the maha movement? What do you think of this? And that is inherently incendiary. But when people say, like, what would you do if you were in that position? It's like, all right, cool, this isn't me hating on anyone. This isn't me saying who I support or don't support. I'm literally just going to say this is what my choice would be. And I thought it was a very interesting way of framing that question. Yeah, very cool. I think that was very rambly. No, no, not at all. I think we needed context because it's just a different premise than we kind of have done before. I do think it's it is sort of like if you could be God for a day, like, if you could wave a magic wand, if you know that kind of question, but couching it in the political, it's provocative, it's intriguing. So I was just curious where you were coming from on that. So let's get through it. Do you want me to read your response or do you want to? No, so I pulled it up. I have it. I have it up right here. I say we go point by point and yeah, yeah, I think that's the best way to go. And by the way, like these aren't even all of the points that like these are just like sort of these were top of mind. Let's just write all these out. And obviously the person asked what would you do if you're a president? I approach this almost solely from a health perspective. I'm not discussing international policy. I'm not discussing the military. I'm not discussing like any of that. It's literally just from a health perspective, which realistically, if I was president, I think that would probably be the first thing I do anyway, because like the health of our nation is without without it, you have nothing. So I did start off by saying, all right, so let's pretend I can pass any legislation I wanted without any pushback. So basically, I'm a dictator because even if someone's president and even if they have a majority in the House and the Senate, it's not guaranteed that they're going to be able to pass anything they want to pass, which by the way, and this is just a separate side note, this is one of the reasons why if you really listen, the president of the United States is obviously really important. But your day to day life is far more impacted by your local government and your local officials and the laws. And so it's like, for whatever it's worth, if you don't vote locally, please start, because if you really want your voice to be heard and your day to day life to be really impacted, how you vote locally is at the very least equally important, if not more important, especially when you get to that like executive branch, very high level, so much often doesn't go through because of the checks and balances that we have. Anyway, I'm a dictator. I can do anything I want. The first thing I said, and this was this was by design. This was like, in my opinion, the most important thing that I would do is make public parks and public exercise equipment that's freely available. And I would make it, I would put it everywhere. Like, I would put it absolutely everywhere. And my actual inspiration for this, I've been fortunate to travel in many areas of the world. The place where I saw this the most was actually in Israel. You can't walk a couple of blocks without seeing a public park, a new park with exercise equipment in the park. They have ellipticals in the park. They have chest presses. They have leg extensions. They have shin up bars, dip bars. They have adduction, abductor machines. They've got like, they have actual exercise equipment in parks all over the country. And it's all freely available. And you see people, you see kids using it, you see kids playing on it, and you see like 80, 90 year olds using it all the time. It's unbelievable. So it's just ingrained in their society. I remember the first time I went and I saw it, I was breathless. I couldn't believe it. And you can't go a few blocks without seeing it. So that is something that I would really. If I'm a dictator, it's happening. Every few blocks, you've got another park and you've got exercise equipment everywhere. Not only just because I think it's important for people to have access to it, but also for it to become normalized in terms of, oh, this is just what we do. We have access to exercise equipment every week because this is important. And our government, our dictator wants us to be healthy. And like, knowing that the government is prioritizing this and really see most science. I'm going to make a bad joke, fear, fear, science. All right. Any podcasts is not any way can do it. The fear. We've got, okay, so next one, and this is the one that really fucked up the entire post, I said eliminate, I said eliminate food desserts. I meant eliminate food deserts. And I caught that. I caught that. I got so much shit for this. I literally always contemplated deleting it and then reposting it with the correct, but like, dude, I got immediate, immediate being like, wait, wait, I thought that you were, that you weren't about eliminating certain food groups, why you're eliminating, eliminating food, food desserts, like I really love dessert. I thought you ate dessert. And I was like, motherfucker. But I also, to be fair, I gave context right after it. And I'm so glad I left this context where I was like, many people don't live reasonably close to local food stores with high quality, minimally processed foods. I want to make high quality food more accessible physically and monetarily. So one of the best experiences that I had growing up, so my, one of my best friends, Eli, he went to UPenn and I went to University of Delaware. And Eli and I grew up together. And I would pretty regularly go visit him at UPenn. And I think the thing he wrote his thesis on was about food deserts because he's involved in public health. Now he actually does some really amazing things with HIV/AIDS, globally, really extraordinary stuff. But we would walk around Philadelphia, like some really like some rough parts of Philadelphia. And we would see how long it would take for us to find a grocery store, not just a grocery store, but we had to go in and see which groceries like how many like fresh fruits and vegetables are in this grocery store. Dude, and I remember there was one area of Philly that it took several miles for us to find one that the most that we found was a box of onions. That was the most amount of vegetables that we could find in this grocery store for several miles in an urban area. And that's a food desert where it's like, you have to imagine, okay, you maybe you've got your single mother, you might be working two jobs, you don't have a car, you're taking public transportation, and the only store near you has onions. That's like your only option for vegetables. And I remember I must have been 20 or 21, like that really I was like, holy shit, this is a big problem that I started getting more involved in it and researching it. Like it's a big, big, big problem. So as dictator, diet, I would eliminate that. That just and obviously it's much easier said than done. We're eliminating them. They don't exist anymore. But like, I would figure out a way as dictator, for anyone who's going to get upset, this is obviously hypothetical. But like as dictator, I'd figure out a way to create more accessible food options, fresh food options. And it doesn't have to be huge grocery stores, but even stands. And you see this, I saw this a lot in Mexico, where like there are just stands, you have stands where you could buy fruits, you can even if you go to New York City, you see like fruit stands out there, like there's just one person out there. They've got strawberries, they've got oranges, they've got apples, they've got lettuce, they've got broccoli, they've got all the stuff in one stand. And creating stands, whether it's ideally, I like to try and keep government small, maybe as a dictator, I wouldn't. But ideally, I would like to keep government small. So I would prefer to subsidize these to individuals to incentivize individuals to run these stands so it can help stimulate the economy, get people supporting the small business, but then also get these people to have access to this fresh food at a cost that's more affordable and without having to drive super far or go super far in public transportation while like carrying all these bags. So yeah, that would be a major one for me. Do you get any questions about the availability of fresh foods? Is that something your audience has? To you. I'm not going to say it hasn't been brought up, but it's not often. And if you think about it, the vast majority of my audience, I mean, I would have met the listen, people throw the word privileged around way too much nowadays. I think they use it almost as an insult or to discredit what someone is saying. When the reality is, my audience inherently has a smartphone. And they are often educated enough to hear what I'm saying and think, okay, this person has a science based background and knowledge, whereas like someone who is not as privileged, maybe they don't have a smartphone, maybe they don't have the education enough to even really understand what I'm saying. And maybe any number of different things. So I'm not, I'm not reaching that many people who are saying they don't have access to this food. They don't have like, but that's, I think that's probably not a, it's not a function of it not existing. It's a function of who my audience is. I was just more curious if that was like a topic of concern had been raised. So, all right, let's get through the list. And then I have some, some follow ups for you. Let's keep going. Do you want to follow up? Now, or do you want to do it at the end? No, let's, let's go back through it. But yeah, go ahead for the next one. Cool. Let's hear your platform, you know, the fear platform. Okay. I can say I'm Jewish, dude. It's okay. I'm just like cringing every time. Like I'm dumping into my seat. It's like when you're in a car and you're driving, you're going to like, you're going to hit something on the side and like, you crunch yourself in as though that's going to present your car from hitting it. It's like, I could say it, but then you're like, I don't know if I'm allowed to laugh. You can laugh. It's a paper. Okay. So the next section, I didn't get hate for this, but I did get some people asking how would this be funded? Because I'm talking about tax breaks here. And obviously, I was saying this would, this is a platform of health, but obviously money incentivizes people dramatically. And so anytime we can incentivize healthy habits through money, I'm all for it. So tax breaks for those who exercise regularly, including getting like X number of steps per week or per month, anything I can do to incentivize movement. And it doesn't have to be steps. It could be just time on a bike. It could be time. It could be swimming, could be rock climbing. I don't care any exercise. So tax breaks for those who are exercising regularly, getting movement in. And who knows, maybe we could make a tier system like, okay, so if you're just getting your steps in, you get this much of a tax break. If you're getting your steps in and your strength training two times a week, at least you get this amount of tax break. If you like right now, the way that taxes work is like the higher your income, the more you pay, which for whatever is worth makes sense. But what if we did it from the perspective of the more fit you are, like the more you work out, the more tax break you get. I understand this poses a major issue. You have someone who works two jobs, three jobs, they have multiple kids, they wouldn't be able to work out as much. They don't get as many tax breaks. We'd have to figure that out. I'm fully aware that that would be not necessarily fair. And so we'd have to figure that out. And I was actually having a conversation with someone about that. It's like, how do we, what about for the people who don't have the same amount of time? Understood. We've got to figure that out. But that's my like, just general idea of if you're getting these minimums, then your tax breaks improve the more that you do. That makes sense. Yeah. And, you know, in general, what I found is, is there's a lot of good ideas that are extremely difficult to implement. Yes. Correct. So let's talk about the ideas, because that's, that's really what we're most interested in. Yeah. I'll jump from there to want a little bit further down, because I think it goes hand in hand. Okay. And this was sort of, this is one of my ways of trying to make it easier to implement is tax breaks for companies who implement four day work weeks. This, I think, is something that I would love to see more frequently. There's been a recent amount of research on companies. I believe it was in the UK who implemented a four day work week and saw not only a zero downturn in production, but actually increased productivity and improved health markers. So for people who, to give the company a tax break and incentives to give their employees more time off, which would then ideally give their employees more time to get exercise in. That's my cyclical thought on that one. So giving companies tax breaks, if they implement four day work weeks, I think would be amazing. Tax breaks for people who buy fruits, vegetables, lean proteins. I don't want to say tax breaks for people who buy minimally processed foods, because there are some very highly processed foods that are really great for you, like Greek yogurt, the oikos, high protein yogurt. That's a highly processed food. You kidding me? Like, so who knows, maybe come out of the cow that way. It doesn't taste like raspberries. What do you mean, Joey? Incentivizing fruits, vegetables, lean proteins, tax breaks for those who buy from local farmers. This is something I'm really passionate about. I think a lot of people really overlook how difficult it can be for local farmers. And obviously there's like, I would say even go as far as to say like any small business owners, but especially when we're talking about food and produce and supporting local farmers, if you really care about your environment, if you really care about supporting people locally, if you really care about getting fresh food, if you care about minimal government oversight, I mean, supporting your local farmers, one of the most important things you can do. And if you want to talk about people who work outrageously hard, I mean, good luck finding someone who works harder than a real farmer. Like these families, they work so unbelievably hard. It's insane. And I really think there in many ways the lifeblood of our country. And so I would real tax breaks who buy from local farmers and doing everything we can to help local farmers. That would be a major thing that I would want to improve. And who knows, maybe going back to eliminating food deserts, you give tax breaks for people. You give tax breaks there. And then you also finding ways to help local farmers, maybe then the local farmers would be able to employ people to then sell their food more locally throughout that area of the town. Who knows, get them having stands where they can then have their produce easily set up for people. So who knows? Anyway, I'm all over the place. I'm really passionate about this. I get really excited. So I'm sort of all over the place here. Tax breaks for those who participate in group community volunteering projects to help other people. This is what I've been talking more about recently in terms of finding a group, like getting in a group community, whether it's a religious community, whether it's a volunteering community, whether it's going to jiu jitsu, whatever it is, getting involved in the local community. And then in addition to that, being part of that community to help other people and volunteering to help your community in some way. Especially nowadays, if we're talking about mental health, if we're talking about improving people's quality of life, they need more in-person interaction. And in a day and age, when we're just always on the phone, just constantly looking at the phone, and you heard my voice when I was talking about people who were coming at me on social media. This is a lot of people's day-to-day life all the time. But as soon as you get in front of someone and have real in-person interaction, your faith in humanity is a restored type thing. So I want to incentivize people getting out there in their community, being with people in person, and then also volunteering and working to improve their community that way. Tax breaks for people who get annual health screenings and get their blood work done. This is a no-brainer to me. It might seem as though that would be an unnecessary cost. But if we look at all of these things, one of the major things people were saying, the pushbacks that got on this, but it was very kind pushback. Someone was rude about it. They were just like, "Well, how would you fund this?" And the way that my brain works is, we spend so much as a country on people's health who, once they're already at a point of no return, once they've already gotten so unhealthy, now they need to be on medications, now they are going to the doctor more frequently, and they need to take more time off work. There's so many issues that they have with their health because it's gotten to a point where they're so far gone. Whereas if we can do things like this, which is more preventative, but then also from a screening perspective, getting annual health screenings and taking your blood work, yes, that would be a cost, but I actually think it would save money in a long run because you're preventing people or you're doing your best to prevent people from getting so unhealthy that they're actually going to cost more money down the road. So I think that long run, this would actually save a lot of money. Interestingly, and I know I'm a dictator in this scenario, but let's go back to, let's say I'm a president in this scenario, and I only have a four-year term, or my dictatorship is only four years for some reason, this is one of those things where someone might implement it, but you don't see the ROI within your first term. So then people like, see, this is just costing more money. So then the next president comes in and then they change it, but they didn't give it enough time to see it. If you had kept that in for 40 years, we would have saved a huge amount of money, but it's one of the inherent issues with flip-flopping back and forth, people implementing something and then taking it out, implementing it, taking it out. It's like, can we just try something for 50 years before you just like, I understand there are issues with that too, but that's where my brain is on that one. Yeah, that's a big one. I think the way to try to see past that is to look at other countries and other places that have different, and it's imperfect, right? There's always many factors and confounding variables, but I think it's a way to see past the four-year flip-flop you're describing. Correct. Now, this is the last one on this list, and this is the one that actually got the most pushback. I didn't realize this was super controversial, and by the way, I go back and forth on this one and I'll explain why, but I said, and I'll say exactly how I phrased it. I said, I would like to try UBI and see how it goes, UBI is universal basic income. Basically, if you make under a certain amount of money, then you get a certain amount of income every month from the government, from the dictator, from the furor. Providing incentives for people to spend or invest that money intelligently, that was a really important line that I think some of the people who didn't like it, they miss or misinterpreted. I'll start by saying I go back and forth on UBI, and the reason I go back and forth on it is because the prime example was the stimulus checks during COVID. I have a very close friend of mine who worked at Sax 5th Avenue in New York during COVID, and he told me literally, he knew that as the day that the stimulus checks went out, it was going to be a rush into Sax 5th Avenue for people buying insane bags and clothing and super expensive stuff, things that they completely didn't need, and might not have even had the money to afford, but they were using their stimulus check to buy these expensive items as opposed to investing it, as opposed to using it for intelligent purposes that would actually improve the quality of their life. So, I am very well aware that not everyone who got UBI would use it in an appropriate way, which is why I would like to provide incentives and education around people to spend and invest that money intelligently. I mean, whether it's investing into the stock market, whether it's putting it into high yield savings account, educating around that, and then providing even more incentives on top of it. I mean, if you think about it, you get UBI, you invest that into a high yield savings account, for example. The amount that compounds over 5, 10, 15, 20 years, you could have a huge amount of money saved for retirement just based on that, which would be a beautiful thing for so many people. Now, the reason that I actually, the main reason that I would like to try UBI is because I know that would have changed my mom's life and my brother's quality of life growing up. My mom would have been someone who, if she had UBI, she would have used it very appropriately and efficiently and effectively. And it could have changed so much of our day to day. It could have removed so much stress and anxiety in our household. And I know there are many people in the exact same or even worse situation who would massively benefit from having a little bit of extra money to make getting groceries easier, to make paying for extra curricular activities easier, to like even like any, any number of different things, but paying for a nanny in some instances, just getting some extra help so that you can do something else. And that's where my mind goes, man, maybe it's even worth it to have UBI, to have some people use it inappropriately, so that the people who would use it appropriately would get the help that they need. Now, I don't know, I don't know the writer answer to that, but I do think that you give someone UBI who really needs it. Now they have, who knows, maybe my mom could have used that to help pay for a nanny, so then she could have had an hour a couple times a week to get a workout in. And then she could have gotten a bigger tax break because she got more steps and she got more, like all this would compound. So that is my biggest argument for UBI. And it does come from that emotional, my own personal upbringing, but also the logical, I think that could have made a huge difference. So I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm not saying there are no issues with it, but that is where I come from with UBI being potentially very, very helpful. It's interesting. When you were saying UBI, you said below a certain income, my understanding of at least the model that like Yang popularized Andrew Yang was that everybody would get it. And his I disagree with that, but yeah, keep going. Yeah, his reasoning was basically like it unites us more than it divides us. It becomes less of a class thing and more of just a thing that everybody gets. And then if you're talking about like where you're getting things paid from and whatnot, like if you are in a lower income bracket, your taxes may not be covering that. But if you are in a higher income bracket, your taxes are probably covering that and people below you. So giving them that also kind of like, it's like here you paid and you get paid out. And so it's, I think it's supposed to create buy-in because as you saw in your comments, it's pretty divisive. A lot of people have feelings about it, right? Yeah, for me, listen, I wouldn't be, it's not like a deal breaker, not giving it to everyone, but what I would say is like, there are some people who just like, you just don't need it, right? And so what I would say is maybe it's like, and who knows, like who's to say who needs it, but there are people who don't need it. Like, and for whatever it's worth, like, thank God, I'm in a position where I wouldn't need it right now in my life. Like I wouldn't need that. And I would love it if there is a UBI. So let's say we went with that option of everybody gets it, but maybe if you're above a certain income, you have an option. If you want the UBI, cool, you get the UBI or you can donate it to a fund and then maybe you get a tax break as a result of it. Maybe you get like, I don't know, there are many different options or maybe, maybe you get to donate it to an individual, like they have a lottery or whomever it is like a people who are below a certain income. And you get to meet the family that you donate it to and you get to meet the kids, you get to meet the husband, the wife, and you get to, I bet if people actually had the opportunity to donate it and meet the family who they were helping with that extra income, bro, like I bet there would be so much more buy-in for that in terms of, you know what, I'm doing something really good. I'm taking the money that I was that I was promised with my UBI and I'm going to give it to a family who needs it much more and we're going to develop a community where I'm going to see the positive impact that I'm making. I know they're one of the leading cause of unhappiness in the workplace is not seeing the end result of your work, not seeing it actually help people. And I think one of the major reasons people have really started to gravitate towards personal training is because it's not a very lucrative career. Like being a personal trainer, you're not going to get rich, but you positively impact people every single day. Like you make a real difference and you see that happening. And I would imagine that if people, if there was a program that allowed people to donate to someone else in need and you get to meet this family, I mean think about this, like you know all those commercials for like if you help this starving child in this third world country, those commercials like they, you know their name, you see their face like this is the child that you're helping. It's number one, those commercials were marketing genius for everyone who doesn't know. Like that was just absolutely genius. Instead of saying there are thousands of starving children, it's like, hey, this is this one child who's starving, you really learn about that individual. That's, you create an emotional response. If you could meet the family that you're giving this money to and develop a relationship with them, you're building a stronger community. Who knows? Maybe they live in your town and you wouldn't have realized that they were really struggling. Like you have no idea. I would be all for that. So you know what? Cool. You can either choose to get your own UBI or you can donate it to a family and maybe you get a certain benefit as a result of that. I think that would be a really cool option. Yeah. Foster more in person connections between you. Yeah. So let me, let me run back through some, some follow-up questions because that's your platform as a dictator for life. That's my platform. That's it. Okay. That's not interesting. That's just like the, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were like, yo, I've got other ideas. This is, this is my make America healthy again platform though. Like this is the beginning of it. Like it's not about food dies. It's not about seed oils. Like if we're really talking about health, like this is all stuff I would talk about before I even bring up food dies or seed oils. And those, those would be so far down the line. It's not even close. This is my maha platform. All right. Public parks and exercise equipment. What do you want to see in every part? What specific pieces of equipment? And that's a great, great question. And let's keep it. Let's keep it limited like the two most important ones you want to see. All right. Well, before I even say equipment, I would have to say I would like some type of covering. So it rain or shine, you can go underneath it doesn't have to be temperature controlled. That would be a lot of money, obviously. But I would like a covering over the top to incentivize even if it's raining, you get outside. In Israel, they even have ellipticals. I don't think you need that. You're outside already. You're moving. You don't need to have an elliptical. I would probably have something more strength based. So we're outside. Let me think. I would like to see I'm trying to keep it cost effective and also make a big difference. So I don't want to have something where it's like $10,000 for this one piece of equipment. You know what? I'd have kettlebells. Yeah. Kettlebells. I'd have kettlebells out there and a TRX. Okay. Kettlebells and the TRX and on the TRX, the TRX is obviously on a pull up bar if people have that ability. But if you don't have the ability to do pull ups, you have the TRX, you get the TRX rows. There's you with TRX and kettlebell, you can get a sick workout in. And it's very cost effective, like super cost effective. That would be it for sure. What about you? Yeah. I hard to argue with those. That's sort of like what I'm working with right now is like kettlebells and a pull up bar. So I feel like, yeah, there's a lot there. A hundred percent. I do miss I do miss deadlifting really heavy, though. I'm going to I'm going to pull out the barbell and plates at some point. Like reading. Do you have you have them, right? Yeah. Yeah. Get them out, bro. It's just space. What are you waiting for? Just space. Just do it in your. Do you have a driveway? Yeah. A little like car, a little parking spot in the back. Yeah, bro, just bring it out there. Yeah. But I was also thinking like a track because once you have it, it's there forever. Like people can run on a track. And you don't have to just use it for laps. Like there's a lot of other stuff you could do, but just having a place with low impact that you can do that. I like that. I like that. So eliminating food desserts. What do you think are like the the biggest bang for buck to put in those like food stands, food cards? Like what? Like if you could say like, hey, it's tough to get everything out here and these food deserts. Like what's the what's the top two, three fruits and vegetables that you would want access to? So definitely want berries, blackberries, raspberries, blueberries. Definitely want those for sure. I will say the issue with blackberries, raspberries, blueberries is they're sometimes hard to travel with. Right. Right. So I would grow locally. That's harder to I just mean like if you're an on the go person, it's not always the easiest, whereas in apple, you throw it in your backpack and orange, you throw it in your backpack and banana, you throw it in your backpack. So what are you laughing at? What's that smirk for? I'm just imagining remembering Napoleon Dynamite with his thoughts. Yeah, he is in his pocket. Of course, as I talk to my pocket, it's so gross. I'm just imagining just like squishy blackberries and it's like khaki cargo pocket. Just like, yeah, that's why I was smiling. Thanks for bringing that out. I could not like I just see this like shit eating grin on your face. I'm like, what's funny? Pedro from that way. Okay. Both for Pedro. All right. So we've got, so I would say blackberries, raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, and then apples and oranges just from an ease and like you can throw them in, no problem perspective. Those would be the fruits that I would go with for sure at the beginning and then from there for vegetables, tomatoes, which I know is a fruit I understand. So well, tomatoes, I understand, but it's actually it's a fucking vegetable. I know it's technically a fruit, but it's a vegetable. So tomatoes, avocado, which also I know is a fruit I understand, but it's a vegetable. Let's see. Oh, you know what I would have? I would like to have those bagged salads. Yeah, like bagged because it's just, it makes access to it easier and it makes the preparation so easy. It's just, yeah, so I would like, which, who knows, maybe the farmer could have their own proprietary bagged salad. They like they make rather than having this massive industrial one. It's like, yeah, like we make X number of bagged salads per week. And that way, it's just, it's easier for you, the consumer or big box. Yeah, you know, I'm just, I'm going to leave it at that pre-prepared bagged salad. I think it would be great. Nice. Nice. That's a good mix. No, so intended. Hey, so when you talk about tax breaks for people who buy from local farmers, yeah, when you were in Israel, were you ever on like a kibbutz? Yeah, how do you say that? A kibbutz? Yeah, you in all those kibbutz? How do you say it? Hey, man, I went on a kibbutz one too, kibbutz, kibbutz, kibbutz. Yeah, kibbutz seem as the plural. Yeah, kibbutz. Sounds like dog food. Yeah, a kibbutz, kibbutz and bits, bits and kibbutz. Yeah, yeah, I didn't, I didn't live on one, but I spent time on them for sure. They're amazing. So and this is, this is for me just as much as for anybody else. It's basically like a, like a commune, like a collective where people live and they all work the land and like live off the land. Is that kind of the vibe or what's? Yeah, so everyone is different, but the general idea of the kibbutz team is they, they all have a role. So there's some kibbutz team that are for like just for dairy and like everything they do is dairy. There's another, there are other kibbutz team that are for meat. There are other kibbutz team like they all have like there's one that's for chocolate where it's like they have a goal of what they produce. And everyone who lives on the kibbutz, you live there for free. So it's, it's sort of like a mini like socialist enclave within the overall capitalist society, which is pretty cool, but you live there for free, but everybody works. So everyone does something. So you could work out in the farm, you could work as a cook, you could clean, you could be teaching the children. There's always something to do and everyone will contribute in some way, shape or form. They often have these like big essentially cafeterias where everyone goes to eat and some people will be cooking for the community and some people will be cleaning for the community. Some people will be running the factory, whatever it is. It's, it's very, very cool. It's a really wonderful thing to have. And it's, it also is great because they supply so much of, I mean, Israel's the size of New Jersey. So like every, like when you go out, like some of them are just farmers for vegetables. And so like every day you go and get your groceries and they have stands everywhere, like everywhere you go. And so everything is fresh picked early that morning and then driven to the stands and then you pick it up that day. And I was picked that morning, you get it that day and it's, yeah, it's really, really amazing. Okay. So it's, it's less about like a self-sustaining and more about like providing for the community, but also outside of the community, like they are, they are producing products. They produce for, yes, for the general population. Correct. Yes. Interesting. Okay. Cool. I was just curious about that and like how it's awesome, dude. If you ever want to go like, they'll welcome you. Like you can just go and stay and it's regular people. It's just regular people. It's just, it's, it's wonderful. I really like it. I don't know if I would live on it long term with a family, but especially like when I was younger in college or immediately post college, like I would just go stay there sometimes and you can stay and help and work. It's fun. Yeah. Who owns it? Man, that's a great question. I have no, I don't know the answer that question. Who owns the kibbutz? I have no idea. Electively owned by everybody there. Is it owned by the government? I'm like given to whoever lives there. Who decides who can live there? So many questions. Kibbutzim. Who owns kibbutzim in Israel? Let me see. They're collectively owned and run by the members of the community. Yeah. It's freaking awesome. It's very cool. Annual health screenings and blood work. What are you screening for? What are you looking for? So this is something where, you know, this would actually be a great conversation to have with someone from Merrick. Yeah. Like the major, major, major pieces of blood work that you want to keep track of. I mean, you guys talked about that on the recent podcast. Yeah. Actually, we did. Yeah. We'll link that in the, we'll link that in the show notes. If you didn't listen, did an entire episode on blood work for men and women, which markers are the most important for you to pay attention to. Yeah. So I would listen, I would go listen to that one for sure. Obviously, like I think everyone should be tracking their blood pressure, which isn't necessarily a blood work. But tracking your blood pressure, I'd like to see at the bare minimum, a monthly blood pressure check. I think as you get older, probably change it more to weekly. But tracking blood pressure, tracking, cholesterol, lipoprotein, little A, APOB, tracking, probably thyroid tracking, testosterone and estrogen, probably tracking inflammation, tracking, cancer markers, obviously, those would be the major ones. Yeah. Yeah. People at home can use this as a cheat code to figure out what screenings they should be asking for, what food they might be, you know, neglecting at the grocery store that they could pick up, what kind of workouts they could do if they have minimal equipment. I think we covered a lot of good ground here. I will also say I want to add something because I don't know this is accurate, but what someone told me, a medical provider told me that, because we were talking about how I'm sponsored by Merrick now and how I'm working with Merrick, because I really, I love what they're doing. What this medical provider said, she was saying that, well, one of the major issues with doctors, it didn't, didn't sound good. She was like, well, I know doctors that won't order blood work for their patients, because if the patient gets the blood work and something comes back as like not good, but the patient doesn't actually take action on that and doesn't get for their blood work, and then the patient has a health issues result of it, then they can sue the doctor. And I don't know that it's accurate or not, but it, number one, it was scary because she was saying, well, now doctors won't order blood work, because the doctor is scared of having legal action taken against them, which if that's accurate, that's horrifying, because then the people aren't getting the blood work that they need taken and the doctor is potentially held liable if the person doesn't take the action they need. So it's the equivalent of like the ostrich putting their head in the sand. Yes. So it's like, oh, I can't see it. So it must not be happening. Correct, which, but I think it happens very frequently. I mean, there are people who, people are more likely to give medication to their dog or cat than they are to take the medication at their prescribed for themselves. So it's basically, I think the liability in this instance needs to be removed from the doctors. So doctors, like everyone gets this but we're taken. And if you decide it's up to the individual of those side, if they'll take action on it, but you'll get a tax break if you get this blood work taken and then you can move forward and decide what to do with it from there. But the doctors are not held liable for the choices that you decide to make or not make with your health after you get that blood work. Yeah, I don't know the nuances. I'm just going off of what one person said, I don't know if it's accurate or not, but that's just something I thought would be worth bringing up. Yeah, that could be a cool episode getting like a health care specialist or a lawyer that specializes in that to talk about that kind of thing. That actually would be a very interesting episode. Is that it? Any other thoughts as you're a rain, you know, comes to fruition? The other one, and this is a major one, and I struggle with this is I want to make education, especially around health, more available, more accessible, more available. The issue is that we have right now is no one can fucking agree on what the right education is, on what the correct education is, right? You have some people who are like, okay, well, calories don't matter. Some people are like, calories do matter. Some people are like, you really need to focus on seed oil. Some people are like, seed oil, it doesn't really, it's not that big of a deal. And so my concern is, okay, we make education around why these foods are more important or why, like, how do we come to a consensus and how do we standardize this education? Now as dictator, I could say whatever the fuck I wanted and I could get my curriculum in there. So that's what I would do. But from a more practical perspective and checks and balances perspective, that is something I struggle with, because like, I would love to have more education in middle school, high school, college, I'd love to have more education readily available and accessible. But for whatever it's worth, this is one of the reasons I take my job so seriously now, because the government can't mandate necessarily what is being, they can't control what is being taught and who's teaching it and what they're believing. I mean, we've got doctors now who promote stupid stuff, like the carnivore diet, not even most, but there are some prominent doctors who do that stuff. And it's scary to say the least. So that's my like, education would obviously have to be a major one, but the practicality of the application of it is something I don't know how we would do. Yeah, I mean, that's sticky. I mean, how do we build consensus on education in general? Correct. Correct. Yeah, I don't envy, I don't envy even the dictator. Yep. It's, it's, it's easy to criticize and it is tough to govern. Amen. Cool. Amen. Well, thank you everyone for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a five star review, a written five star review would be the most helpful. Again, thank you for 10 million downloads. It's, it's been extraordinary and I'm excited for the next 10 million. So thank you for joining Tony and I on this journey together. If you want to follow Tony, please do, we'll put his Instagram in the show notes. And if you have any questions for the podcast, DM Tony, and we will discuss them in future episodes. Have a wonderful week. We'll talk to you soon. [BLANK_AUDIO]

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