Welcome to the Style for Life podcast. I am Stephanie Rumbaugh, a fashion stylist and accountability coach based in Christchurch, New Zealand. I have been a fashion stylist for 18 years, a health and wellness educator for 27 and a group fitness instructor for 34 years. I thought it was about time I shared some of my learnings and insights with you on how to be the best version of yourself. In this podcast, I explore all aspects of physical, psychological and emotional style and also share some fitness and health tips that I've picked up over my years of coaching and learning. Loving yourself regardless of age, size or anything else is super important. Style for life is about how to improve your style, health and wellness. Thank you so much for listening and enjoy! Hello everybody and here we are again at Podcast 32 and I'm later this week getting it recorded. Really because I have been mulling so much over this podcast and thinking a bit about what I want to say and also had a plan this week for another podcast with another person and that didn't work out just for one reason or another. Anyway, Podcast 32 is how to dress your changing body and I want you into this quite quickly because there's a lot to cover and I've had this question probably this week maybe five times. It's a result of last week's podcast on how to deal with ageing. This is about ageing. We are ageing every minute. I'm going to have aged 30 minutes by the time I've finished this podcast today. It's funny right? But your body changes and this podcast today is about women and I've chosen three life stages two of which I have experienced and one I'm yet to experience but I've witnessed and these three life stages are really I've chosen them because they are the most significant for many women not for all. All women will go through to at least two of them and many women will go through three as well. So I could have done four. I could have included puberty and growing into your woman's body and I know for some people that is a real transition too and then just briefly on that before I start on the other three, you know, I have experienced this myself obviously and with my own daughters and I witnessed them, you know, growing taller, being really been poly and quite gangly and lanky and then just filling their womanly curves out, you know, once menstruation started and, you know, all of that happened. So and that's typically what happens to a female. She sort of settles into her body around the ages of sort of 17 to 19 depending on, you know, when menstruation started. But the first part of that is often growing taller and being quite lanky and then, as I said, filling out. But anyway, we're the target for this podcast is really out of the teen years. So if you're a teenager listening, I'm really sorry, I'm not covering that exactly. But we really want to talk about the other three stages because that's where most of my audience fits. So the first stage is when you have a child and get pregnant, what happens to your body then. The second stage I'm talking about is what happens during menopause, perimenopause and postmenopause. I know I've talked about this a lot, but I'm going to cover that a bit too. And then the third stage, which we don't talk about a lot and needs to be talked about is what happens when we're well out of menopause, but when we're into our elderly or older years, what does our body do then? And how do we manage our clothes around that? Because those are some things that work on a younger body and may not feel as comfortable on an older or aging body. So that's really what it's about. So I really think that the thing is too, that you've got to keep shifting things around your wardrobe and tailoring them to your lifestyle, your life stage. I have a lot of women who come to me and go, "Ah, now this has happened and that's happened in my life stages different." And a lot, believe me, I have the gamut of life stages coming in my direction. So it might be somebody who has gone back to work after a baby. It might be somebody who's just starting their first job. I get quite a few clients in that category. It might be somebody who's retired or it might be somebody who has the children of left time they want to do more travelling. There's so many life stages and there's so many things that can happen. So you've got to keep your closet or your wardrobe up to date for that life stage and where you're going and what you're doing. I'm thinking a bit more about my future and whether I'll be travelling a bit more. I'm not sure yet. Obviously my oldest son is a professional athlete and we're always nail-biting every year. Going, "Oh, is he going to make a New Zealand team?" And if he is, then we get to travel and watch him, which is amazing. And if we don't, do we book travel now? We're having all these debates ourselves. And we're talking next year, which I'm going to be very challenged about, about travelling next year potentially. And if we do really travelling light, I'm very challenged by that because I'm useless at that. I should be better. I know, but I just get bored easily with my clothes. So I have to get over myself, right? And be a bit more practical. So just thinking about that, keep your wardrobe shifting with your life changes. And also your body changes. And don't let the fact that your body's change stop you from shopping. Oh my gosh. I see this so much. Oh, I'm just going to wait till I've lost the weight. Or I'm just going to wait till this happens or that happens. And you're just waiting your whole life, right? So if you see something you love, you need to buy it, right? You can get it tailored or wear it while your body changes. And then if your body changes again, then you go, "Okay, what are we going to do now?" I mean, I've clearly, as you know, I coach people in weight loss. So if I'm working with someone in a weight loss journey, I do encourage them not to spend a whole lot of money on clothes. But if that's a somewhere in the future plan, and I'm not actually coaching them for weight loss, but there's a somewhere in the future plan for them about losing weight, and they haven't really committed to or managed to do it, or it might happen, then I'm like, can we sister? Just sit down and go, let's just love ourselves for who we are right here and now. And if we're doing that, are we able to just dress this human that we have in front of us, rather than trying to think about future you? We don't know what future you is going to look like, right? So that's just my introduction. So let's look at the first life stage, which is when you get pregnant and have children, and what do you need to do? Now, I remember this clearly, because when I was getting pregnant and having children, obviously, it was 24 years ago for my oldest son, and 19 and a half years ago for my youngest daughter. So a long time ago compared to now, I really hated maternity clothes, and I actually hated tents. And at that stage of life, a lot of women just wore things that went from their boobs and dropped, and they looked terribly massive and felt frumpy. And we're kind of a still on that stage where women will homogenise being pregnant. And of course, you can imagine, I was very indignant about this and very unhappy about it. And I was not ashamed of my pregnant body. I was grateful for my pregnant body, and also proud of my pregnant body. So that was just me. You know, everyone felt like that. And some of you will not feel like that. You'll feel so many different emotions. There was times I didn't like it, believe me too. And I felt frustrated and tired and over it. But what happens is when we get pregnant, if you're small in the midsection, your midsection thickens to start with. So you go from if you've got quite a small waist, you go from being small waist to being thicker in the waist, it just feels like you're putting a weight around the stomach, which you just as your baby growing inside you, right? And that starts to thicken your waistline. So your tight waisted clothes no longer fit you. So the first thing that you do is start getting bigger waistbands, right? You feel often feel very tired too. So, you know, things that are potentially you wear them because you like the look of them that are not very comfortable get ditched because you just can't cope, right? The other thing that's significant when you get pregnant, even in the early stages is your breasts grow quickly and they get sore. And they really don't feel like your own. This doesn't go way up by the way if you haven't had children until after you've finished breastfeeding, right? And pregnancy makes your breasts tender. So you've got to look after the expanding waistline and the breasts. Now, some of us also gain weight and pregnancy everywhere. We just put on weight is for whatever reason that happens. Again, I'm so not about judging anyone in this podcast. I'm about you being you and whatever happens for you is your journey. So if you're gaining weight everywhere, then obviously your clothes are going to need to get bigger in size. So I always had, I had four children, four children, obviously. So I had lots of chances to wear my maternity clothes. Some people get no chance of one chance and they're done. I've had enough that I want another baby. They are like crazy woman having more. So I had a maternity, not wardrobe, that's an exaggeration, but pieces that I wore when I was pregnant. And there's pieces I wore when I was pregnant that I wore when I was not pregnant too. There was a few towards the end that I couldn't. I couldn't. There wasn't a lot that I could do that with towards the end. I tell you one thing. So let's discuss what you can wear. I'm just going to share first of all, one of the things I bought when I was pregnant with my oldest son and it was the best thing I ever brought. It was a dress and it was made of stretchy fabric. So it wasn't a natural fiber. I'm sorry to tell you it was a synthetic and it was stretchy and I wore it. I remember going wearing it the night before I gave birth to Scarlet. I was out of Christmas in the park and she's just turned 21 today by the way. Oh my god. And so this time, 21 years ago, I was wearing that stretchy dress and just giving birth to her. You know, it was stretchy and it has, it was a hole to neck. So my big boobs were sort of halted into it. Oh, like we were a cardi and it was great. It just grew with me. I lead it to so many of my friends. It was just a really comfortable piece. Now obviously for the pregnancies where I was pregnant in the summer that worked and that was three of my pregnancy. So I gave birth of December, March and April. Now obviously I gave birth to one of my children in August. So that wasn't a deal at all because I thought that was too cold to wear it here in New Zealand. So I had a stretchy dress. Now you might have any manner of these. You can pick them up from anywhere. You can pick them up from very reasonably, maybe from a recycled boutique or a second hand shop. You can pick them up from glasses, from H&M, from any of those places and just get that base dress that just stretches was awesome. Then I also had, we didn't have these when I was pregnant by the way. We did not have them. But nowadays you can get maternity tights for exercise. They can be bike pants or long tights. Now again, that can be quite a good option. I'm not one for wearing active wear. It's casual wear all the time. But when you're pregnant, come on, you've got to be comfortable and you often have got, if you've got other children, you're getting down and up off the floor all the time, you've got this big belly. So the maternity pants that Lorna Jane or I think Lola Lemon does them as well and cotton on body, I'm pretty sure they all do maternity exercise shorts, short tights and long tights. So they're a really good option. Yeah, I think too, the next thing is too, you want fabrics that are in a wash, right? Because your children, when you get your children or your child, you will be, there'll be stuff spilled on your clothes all the time. So, you know, I was having a conversation with a friend the other day about going to work, holding the baby to your shoulder and the baby and you get to work and you look on your shoulder and you've got this white dribble on your shoulder. We all had this. And that's from where your baby vomits on your shoulder or whatever. So you need fabrics that are going to wash well, fibers that are going to wash well. Another hack when you've had your child and your breastfeeding, and I actually found this good when I was pregnant as well, as I went and purchased singlets that had thin straps that were cheap, right? Now, the reason I did this is because when I was pregnant, they just stretched over my belly and I could wear something maybe shorter over the top and not feel like my belly was out for the world or it was cold. So I longer sort of singlet line singlet that is stretched over my belly, no thin straps. Now, I say thin straps because when you breastfeed, you can then put the singlet on, you can put another top over the top, you can lift the top top up and then you can just pull the thin stretch singlet underneath your breast and under your maternity bra, breastfeeding bra, and feed your baby without having your tummy out on show because believe me, when you've had a baby, the last thing you really want is your tummy out for the world. It's just like, everything gets out for the world, like you're breastfeeding and you ever unseize your boobs, you know, but if you've got your tummy out and the whole thing's gone on, you can feel self-conscious. So the long singlet underneath protects a bit of modesty, helps hold things in, gives you warmth and also gives you the extra layer when you're breastfeeding. So that worked really well as well. Also, what to give you advice on, Tracy, this is I'm going to give five tips for each stage and I'm sorry, I feel like I'm talking through this quite quickly. Maybe I should have done a podcast on each stage, oh my goodness. So when you've had a baby, I would suggest that you have some clothes that are for post pregnancy for at least three months. Now some people go back to their pre-pregnancy size quickly. I definitely did not. I definitely did not. Now I breastfed all of my children for different lengths of time for different reasons and very happy with my decision to do that, but I did not experience my pre-pregnancy body until after I finished breastfeeding my children. And sometimes it took quite a bit of effort to get that back. But take care of that. I remember after my second son, he was, Zach and Brenner really close in age, the only 15 and a half months apart, 16 months maybe. And so I was very pregnant for a very long time. I was with the girls too, and I got the hang of it by Poppy. So after Brenner, I had to make quite a big effort to get myself back to normal again. It's just quite hard work. Anyway, that was just that. And then obviously, once I got to having Poppy, I knew what to do. So it was always difficult. For me, it never was easy to get myself back to pre-pregnancy size. I had to work very hard at it. And it wasn't just something that happened to me just like that, what it does with some people. And some people, it doesn't happen because their body stays changed. And for whatever reason, they don't get their pre-pregnancy body back. So that's where you have to adapt your brain to your lifestyle. You have to live with the body you have now. Now, if you're struggling with your body post-pregnancy and babies and children, and you're relatively, that's relatively fresh for you, don't be hard on yourself. Right? This is the new you. Your body has done some miracle work producing those children. Right? So maybe it's time to embrace the new you. Now, if you feel terrible about that and can't get past it, then obviously then it will be time to try and try some things to try and move on from that if you can manage that. So then we go through our life, we have our children, we run around after them, and generally we find in a lot of cases our bodies are not exactly the same as they were pre-pregnancy. There's always some changes like changes to our pelvic floor, changes to our breasts, our perkiness, like a bit of words. Maybe we have an empty baby house. So I've got that word for my friend, Ang. You know, so you've had got this empty baby house because you've had a baby and the skin stretch and gone back. And depending on your skin type, you might have some stretch marks. All of that is what happens. But you know what a friend said to me the other day, ah, you know, having a baby really ruins your body, well, it actually doesn't have to ruin your body. There's lots of things you can do that can restore your body. I mean, in some people's cases, that can be difficult. I've had some things done to my body since I had babies, which have made my body better. Like, for example, I had problems like pelvic floor and I had a cold post suspension sling, Google that, if you want to, cold post suspension sling. And that was really good for my pelvic floor. It means that I can jump on a trampoline easily. Those of you who can't want to know what I mean. That was years ago. It was really good surgery to have done. I recommend it. So my body was a bit changed, but you know, I've managed to adapt and live with that and be very happy with having head kids. It's like one of the best things in my life, if not the best. So moving on to the second stage, which is menopause, are you have heard me talk about this a lot? Clearly I am right in this right now. So very much in the sharing zone around this. But I just, I wanted this was what was holding me up for this podcast. I wanted to talk about this with respect and with some life experiences, talk to some of my friends and people I know about lived experience in this area, as well as what research tells us, as well as what we I know from my own experience, because a little bit like pregnancy, everyone's experience is slightly different. So when you Google weight gain and pregnancy, because this is, sorry, not pregnancy, sorry, weight gain and menopause, generally there's some things that come up. Now, I'm going to tell you what they are, physiologically what's happening to your body and why weight gain happens. But first of all, a lot of the research and literature read says that changes in lifestyle and aging can have an impact on weight gain and menopause. Now, I'm just going to say this first and then I'm going to talk about the physiological stuff. So first of all, remember, when we get to menopause often, our children have grown up in a least, a least dependent. We're a little bit more financially stable. We see more of our friends than we did in the past, because our children potentially aren't around or if we haven't had children that our friends are freer. And so what they're equals often is less activity, because the children aren't there, more socializing, which is more eating and drinking, and sometimes less activity, because again, we're not running after the kids or doing sport in the same way we were. So sometimes those things can have an impact on weight gain, right? What else impacts weight gain in menopause? Now, and I'll talk about HRT too. So first of all, what causes it is a decrease in estrogen and progesterone. So that's the hormones that do all sorts of good things for our body, right? So the decrease in hormones triggers metabolic changes in the body, because our hormones feed all aspects of our body, right? Now, one of those changes that it triggers is a decrease in muscle mass. So this means that it doesn't mean you go from a bodybuilder to being fat. It means that your muscle mass decreases as you have less hormones on board. So when you have less hormones, sorry, less muscle mass, you don't burn as many calories. So somebody who's got more muscle needs more food because the engine is bigger, right? Less muscle is like a mini or a Fiat, more muscle is like a V8, right? So V8 needs more fuel than a mini, right? So you want to have more muscle mass going into menopause, right? So the hormones trigger metabolic changes, and one of those is a decrease in muscle mass, which leads to fewer calories being burned and then fat accumulating, right? What else happens? So we often lose, don't sleep as well, and it's very clearly shown that sleep, poor sleep can contribute to weight gain as well. We can lose muscle tone, which again, we've just spoken about. We can accumulate more fat as our metabolism slows, and then obviously that means we can gain more weight. Genetics can have a part in it, but I really reluctantly think about genetics, too, and a sedentary lifestyle plays a part. So all of this is in the research, right? Again, I was online researching this for about half an hour before I got on and started talking to you. So I think really important, too, is that we don't want to think, "Ah, I'll get there. Oh, fuck it. Oh, fuck it. I'm nearly 50. I'll just say, "Oh, fuck it. I won't worry. I'm aging. I'm insignificant. Blah, blah." Now, you need to listen to my podcast. I think it was podcast, too, does menopause need to mean weight gain and insignificance, right? So you need to listen to that podcast and have a wee go through that because it doesn't have to. It's often a mindset. Now, obviously, I've just explained some physiological things that occur. Can HRT help this? It's not going to make you lose weight, right? It can help the weight redistribute because all of this weight that we can gain in menopause goes around the stomach. Now, the hard part is we don't know exactly when this could happen to us, right? But the important thing is you've got to be a head of it. So a head of it means having a healthy dive style, healthy eating, regular exercise. And everything I read and research and look at and see and absorb sees that the Mediterranean diet, which is a diet high in plants and lean meat and fish is the best, right? So a diet that has predominantly plant-based is going to be better for you than anything else, right? So the key thing here, ladies, is that when you go into menopause, you have to adjust your mindset because your body is changing. I'm sorry. It's just is what it is, right? It's going to change. And if you keep doing what you did in the past, you are not going to have the same body. So if you go into menopause thinking, oh my gosh, I've been eating the same and exercising the same and my body has changed, I hear you and I totally get it. Now, I have been through this myself. I've made changes in the way I exercise in the last two years. And luckily for me, it's worked. Luckily for me, it doesn't always work, right? But it's worked for me and it's just been a subtle shift and a shift in my mindset and a shift in looking at what I needed as opposed to what I necessarily wanted, right? And now I actually want it because I feel so good, right? So we all know about exercising. I've spoken about it a lot, but you need to make sure that you are exercising as well and your exercise is appropriate for your age. And exercise is not just about rate, weight training or about only cardio. You need to combine the two, do some hip works and flexibilities and balance. All of that comes into helping your body transition through this difficult menopause phase. So I've talked quite a lot about what happens. I hope you understand now about what actually goes on because I'm really pleased I've got that clear in my own mind. What can I tell you about dressing for menopause? Well, one thing that happens is you can bloat. Oh my gosh, can you bloat? Now HRT can make your bloat a wee bit too, but that's just bloating. Bloating is just fluid, right? In and out, or a bit of wind. It's not necessarily fat. So I say, I say, elastic, waist are your best friends. Now I'm not talking about frumpy old trousers. I'm talking about slip skirts. I had so many people comment on my skirt the other day. I learned to grab my wore a little skirt that I'd got from silk laundry. Actually, I love, love silk laundry, great brand and a lot of comments about it. And it's just a simple bias cut slip skirt with a high waist. And I have accumulated a little bit of belly fat. Some days it's better than others, but I can hold my belly wrong now and I never used to be able to do it all. I could hardly pull the skin off my stomach years ago. So I've got a little bit, but it's okay. I'm quite okay with that. So elastic, waist are definitely our friends. You don't want anything tight around the arms and shoulders because you're often sweet or get into a hot, sweet, real quick. So you want to make sure that it's not tight around that area so you can be loose and the air can flow. You want natural fibers that cope with heat transfer. So I'm talking about cotton linen silk, right? Those fibers help the heat transfer. I love silk and the heat. I mean, it just feels so good. I'm a real silk fan. A few of a vegan or vegetarian, you might not like using silk, obviously totally speak to you. So maybe it's going to be better if it's cotton or it's linen that obviously great fibers as well. So things that are natural fibers will help you to heat transfer, right? Sometimes you've got some good synthetics as well that are used for sport, you might feel comfortable in those. I know some people don't like their arms, but wearing things that have sleeveless can be good too. A great bra, your boobs change too. This is another thing about when you go through menopause your boot, you can gain more breast tissue, especially if you've got an HRT. So I've observed this, so you can get a bit more breast tissue. That might be a hallelujah to some people head-hard leaning breast tissue. Others will be like, oh my gosh, the last thing I need. But you can get bigger boobs. Sorry, some of you who don't want to hear that. So you need heat brows, fitted moulded cup skin colour. I've said it many times. If you've got not much boog, get a bit of padding, booster, booster, booster, there. If you've got a lot, then they're not going to make your boobs look bigger. They're just going to smooth out the nipple. You should stay current. Menopause, again, we can feel like fading away into insignificance. You need to stay current, just not slave to fashion, just current, and then you need layers to take off. Wow, that's a lot. Okay, last phase. Aging. So this is, you know, once you get over 60 and over, and some people do this with ease and with grace and other people struggle with it, right? So I have clients of all ages and I've dressed and worked with some clients through 10-year phases of their life. I've been with them when they're 60 and I've been with them when they're 70 and I've seen their bodies change. So what happens physiologically is we age their bodies are less able to store fluid. So that's interesting. So less likely to bloat, right? A spinal disc shrink and we lose elasticity. So that means that we're not able to move our spines and our joints in a spot as much. And metabolism actually slows again greatly as we age, especially from 60 onwards. Some people times from 55 onwards. So again, you've got to keep step with that metabolic change in terms of your nutrition. Your muscles lose strength, endurance, and flexibility. So that's why it's so important to keep them moving, right? Because we become more sedentary. We have less demands on ourselves. You can, and as you get into your older years, you know, I'm talking elderly now, maybe 75 plus. You can, your life often changes. So if you've had a life partner, that life partner can, can die. And you might be left just with you in the house where you usually had two of you. And, and that can make significant, have a significant impact on your body because where you might have cooked for two people or had two of you in the house, there's only one of you now. And you may skip meals, eat different food. And as a result, you can lose a lot of weight. And I've observed this in older people too. You know, they battle with their weight or their life and they get to a certain age and they're quite slim. So really important to, to keep on top of that as well. Because we need nutrients as we age, all the cells in our body have been around for a few more years. So that's what happens as we age. And again, I haven't reached the stage, but obviously I've had clients and relatives and things who have. So you can also lose dexterity. So what do we want to do with our clothes for an older person? What, what are the things that work for us? You don't want too much fiddle fiddle fiddle fiddle. Too many things that are fiddly with difficult clasps and hooks and button down the back and things like that. Because obviously there's just you in the house and you can't do it up and you're less flexible. That's going to be no, no good. So less fiddly clothes. You want things that maybe you can pull over your head like tops, you can pull over your head because sometimes having loads of buttons and faffing can be a bit of a problem. I remember as my dad was getting sick, I he loved polo shirts. He had well shirts, actually too, right to the end. But polo shirts can work. Even with the shirt, just unbutton it halfway down and then pull over your head. Clothes that you can easily get on and off. You know, like if you are, you've got something like you had a hip replacement or you're less mobile or you're a bit stiff in the joints, you know, having trousers that are tight and difficult to get up and down. Like, there might be really skinny or whatever the case may be. So something that's got an elastic waist again. I'm such a fan of elastic waist. Really helpful and useful, especially as you age. Do you know what? I think for woman dresses are great. You know, and there's some really great dresses around that suit an older woman too. So, you know, there's lots of dresses for everybody. I don't want to be putting anyone in any categories there. So forgive me for saying that. But, you know, I just noticed the other day someone I know came around and they had a really lovely dress on that they just purchased. It was just simple. At the top half was made out of sort of, sort of, elasticy fabric. I'm not describing that well. Like a ribbed fabric that has stretching it and then it just was gathered just above the waist and it just had a nice gathered skirt that came to my calf. Super cool style, easy to wear, looks beautiful. Dresses are a great option as you age. They can be comfortable, they can be cool, they can be warm and you've got one piece that looks lovely on you. So my lovely mother has quite a few dresses and so she looks great in those. And then as you age, you feel the cold. So really more than any other stage of life or the other two stages I've talked about, you feel the cold. Metabolism drops, less body fat or maybe a redistributed body fat and you feel the cold. So you notice this was older woman particularly. An older me and my dad felt the cold too. So they need to have a nice warm singlet. So a singlet that goes on first every day, it might be merino, it might be something else but something that sits next to the skin which keeps you warm and then the clothes go on top of that. So layers are really important. So having nice easy to put on layers of singlet, a nice t-shirt, a cardigan, a wee jacket. All of that's all quite manageable and make sure your clothes have some room to move and flex with you because you know doing up your shoelaces is harder and even more difficult if your clothes haven't got some stretch in them and nowadays clothes have a lot of stretch in them. Oh my goodness that was like that past in an instant and I knew it what I had heaps of information here. So look we've just talked about the three stages of life and how you dress in them. So the first is having children and pregnancy, the second was menopause and the last one was as you age and get into your more elderly years. So I hope that's been useful. I think number one message I want to give you here is that I want you to keep step with your body as it changes right. So as you change in age and say for example maybe put on weight, I know that's the common problem that people come to me with, think about what styles feel good. Like I have my boobs growing, do I still feel good in a high-necked top? Here's my midsection growing. Well do I want to wear something that's you know really cutting in through the middle? Like an empire line dress is really flattering for a lot of people. A lot of women don't wear trousers because they feel conscious of their midsection right, particularly menopausal women. So can we get a pair of trousers and we're a top with them that actually is flattering and the answer is hell yes. So it's about finding the trousers that suit your shape as well and remember what trousers come in many different shapes and woods extra in length. So there's many things you can do, get a decent bra, make sure that you are staying current with the right colours. I know that sounds bizarre but as you age that is so important, particularly in menopause and beyond you start to change your skin changes and you need stuff that looks good on you. When you're young you can always get away with anything but you know you do look better in the right colours, you look amazing in the right colours but as we age it almost becomes important. Well it comes more important I think because we can be harsh and pale and all of that but as we age if we're wearing the right colours we can look vibrant and appropriate and youthful and feel good. So anyway I could just keep talking and I won't because that's not going to be useful. I'm committed to keeping these podcasts around 30 minutes. So look thank you so much everyone for listening. I really like getting the feedback. I love getting this topic. I'm sorry I mulled so long over it. I will get another podcast out this coming week but thank you for listening. Please can you share this podcast with your friends? Please can you click follow and please you know get it out there. I want to provide a public service to people who potentially don't necessarily want to see me. They just might want to learn something and I want to get spread the word about every woman and every man, every person in this world being the best version of themselves and feeling great about who they are. So please follow me on Instagram, bright red in zed underscore also on Facebook bright red in zed. Kika everybody thank you very much for listening and I will be back with podcast 33 next week.
