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Yeah, they've got injuries. It doesn't count. Okay, well, we'll just have to keep going then. Can we keep playing this way and keep playing teams that are injured? I don't mind. Yeah, and you've said German champions beat the 4 nil. Spanish champions, 2 nil, English champions, 2 nil. We can say for them, we've played someone. They've had a game. You speak, so... Well, we'll have to play me one above us. Well, yeah, we're on top of all the leagues. If there's a league, lip will top of it. It's grand. It really is. It's big sound, Kev. It makes a dramatic entrance. Hey, guys. You all right? Not so bad. Did you enjoy that, Kev? We're just composing yourself. No, mate. I literally had dog drama for the last couple of minutes. He demanded to go outside, and with way in my backyards, at the minute, it's a complete mud bath. I had to make sure that he was at least semi-cleaned before I locked him at the room. Yeah. Was he excited over the winds, that what it was? Couldn't hold it. He sat there for the entire second half in front of the telly perked up, looking at the telly like that. He knows a good thing when he sees it. He knows what I'm quiet, and he's like, "Yeah, let's just not rock the board here." And that was the entire city of the second half. Just don't rock the board. Just be quiet and don't move. Don't change the channel. Don't turn the volume up or down. Just freeze the dog. Exactly. It was like nobody moves. One of them, but wow. I mean, wow. Wow. That's something that's today is something that's. Today, actually, he's saying that's best in the relevant report, I would say. I mean, I think that they were both equally composed. I mean, I don't know. Like beating Madrid was cathartic in a way. I mean, this was cathartic as well, but it's just been a fantastic week. I'm not going to pick. It's like picking between children. That was about two fantastic games. Yeah, definitely. So let's go through the lineups, and then we'll do it. I've really, I've spelled Trent's name. I've got Taz. That could be Trent's unique name. Oh, that's fine. We'll call it Taz now. So we had Keller and Gull. We had Taz playing. We have Taz's. Then we had Gomez came in at Santa back. Then we had Van Dyke. Rob was asked to go again, which we're probably all a little bit concerned about. You know, we can do three games of the week. Bitfield, Grappbert, McAvister, subs like him for Jones. And then it was Salah Gapo Diaz. Any surprises for you, actually? No. I think there was an argument to keep Jones in place, but I think, you know, in hindsight, I think it was the right decision to place Abba's life. I'm not, I wasn't surprised to see Diaz through the middle. I think, I think that worked really well in this game. You know, but I guess that was the other one that might have gone either way. But no, I was, I was really happy with that lineup. Yeah, I don't care if you want, I know you were saying you thought Jones would start. It is possibly so playing because it's a bit of managing minutes because Jones hasn't actually finished the 19 minutes in the league. Yeah, and with his injury record, there's just horses for courses, swap and van, because I think Jones and subs like between them after probably the most running. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, at the end of the day, I think the only surprise for me was Lewis Diaz, starting off from over Darwin. That'll be one or the other GAPO or Diaz. I didn't expect to start all three, but saying that that's the front three I wanted to play. Purely simply because of the mobility that it offers, the pacing behind it, it offers. And the trickery one we want, you know, especially first against that back line of men's city, they aren't the most mobile. Especially if you can isolate and one be one. And look, I mean, that 11 that went out today done a magnificent job. So you can't really complain about anything. But yeah, no, I was surprised. I was just surprised Darwin didn't start, but not lose my shit off. Not yet, not as early. Not as early. I like stuff. No, give a chance. Gonna be careful. Not soon. Not at the minute. No, actually the city team dropped. And we got a whiff of one, the changes, because it was getting leaked, which was Edison was dropped to the bench for Ortega. We had Cowwalker. Ruben Diaz came back into them. Akange and Akke. That was the back four midfielders, Gunder Gunnar da Silva, and Rico Lewis. We think that was a three easily, but also could also be never last to play wide. Phil Fowden, new Neds, who's asked to play wide, and then Erm Harland. Felt a bit of a bit of the, I thought it was built to sit out for 60 and then go, "If we get a goal, great. If not, we'll happy to get Neil Neil at 60." And then we're going to throw on the pace for the last half hour. It fell inside, built for, let's win it in the last 30. It felt like we're going to try to pull a new no to me, where they were going to stay in the game for the first 60 minutes or so, that they'd bring the pace on out wide and kind of hope for a smash. And grab at the end. I mean, especially given the fact that they've kind of been on this long run, which is seven games now without a win, which I think is a record for Pep. Six losses in a one draw. Yeah, so I think what he was trying to do, yes, there we go. We'll talk about Pep six later, because he definitely got rattled. Yeah, he definitely got rattled. But yeah, I think he was just setting them up to not get beat at the beginning. I don't think that was a particularly dynamic midfield. But yeah, I don't know. I think the Ortega one is the one that I'm so glad it backfired. I'm so glad he gave away a pen. And they're one of those like, "Oh, I'm going to..." It's like Pep doing his little "I'm going to outthink you" thing, and it backfired. I love when that happens. I mean, to be fair, look at some of the goals that he conceded. Ed is not covered in certain glory, as he can. So to be honest, Ortega covered in actually felt sensible. The one that surprised me a little bit was I thought Guadiel would have played, because I know he's made a couple of mistakes, but I still think he's their most mobile defender, and he's their biggest goal threat for such pieces. Because I'm not going to cry it in the city, but I don't think Akke can rule. Akkengi isn't far behind him. They just look like the fit to play, but not any sort of sprints. They're both of them like I have a none of that. They weren't getting involved in sprints. Well, until the referee decided you can choke slam most of it. It's OK. Yeah, two of that back four were coming back from layoffs. That's Ruben Dier's first game in the world. near to Akkengi, you're right. He just didn't look fit. Didn't look right. Didn't look anywhere near his normal self. When he's right. Yeah, when he's right, he can get up and down the line like anyone. Guvarniol is very good at that. You know, he's a good defender, but he can get up and down, and he's a goal threat. That 11 to me, when you look at what options they had on the bench, that starting 11 makes absolutely no sense. And it got exactly, it actually didn't get what it deserved. You know, that 11 didn't get what it deserved, because we were not clinical in that first half. That 11 deserved to hide it. It got it on performance, but not on the scorelight. I mean, Nunez is not a winger. Lewis is not a midfielder. Gundegain has brilliant players. He was, and he was a world-class player four years. He can't run. And Bernardo Silva is just a rat. You know, you take away the fact that what he was able to do for the last four or five years, you know, is ingenuity, his ability to pick passes, and be able to flow on either wing. He can't do that anymore, you know. And to be fair, Kyle Walker, once you lose that yard of pace, that yard of pace that he used to depend on, to bail him out of the ship for being such a poor defender, once you lose the yard of pace, you get exposed as being a bag average right back. And that's all he is. That's what he is now. He's a bag average right back who can do a job, do a bit, but he offers you nothing going the other way. And, you know, Artega had to pull up some really good saves. And he saved, he saved, he's blushes on that scoring. They deserved a hide-in for putting out that lip. They really did. Yeah, so I mean, I mean, I don't hold much coffee while Jamie Karagas says, he was saying, "Lippel, first off, played youth in clock football." I think we need to get away from this at youth in clock football. This self-slot plays. It courses for courses. Certain games he knows, hit them early, hit them quick. And the other games, he's like, "We'll just play into it, and we'll take it out." Lippel realized how everybody else got goals against City Early Online. It's a top line. They've gone for the throw at the first 10, 15 minutes. So let's go for the throw at them to see what they do. And, actually, to be honest, before the goal, Lippel probably should have at least two before we actually score. I mean, the Van Dyke header, to which, to be fair, when you watch the replay back, it's a really good save by Otago. He gets fingersuit to put it onto the post. Gack Pro had his chances with a very odd save by Otago. He's like, palmed it back into the middle. But I think we were all mess between us. The only frustration I have in the first 10 minutes was going, "Just need to get a goal over on top of it." Because you know City will have a chance at some point, because Lower average is telling it, teams get chances. And that was the only frustration I have in the first 10 minutes was like, "How could we not score?" Yeah. I mean, there was, there was a, I don't know, it was the first 10 minutes just felt like, you know, we're just going to go for the throw, which is refreshing. I mean, I feel like we've been so patient as a team recently, and to see them just absolutely go for the throw at like that, that was fantastic. I mean, there was, there was a Saba's light long-range shot. There was Virgil that was off the post. I mean, Virgil had a few that he really should have put away. But yeah, it was, it was just the pressure was building, and they, it felt like we were suffocating them, and it, it felt like they had no time to gain a footing in the game whatsoever. And all my pundits were saying was like, who is this? Who is the city team that they don't even look like they're, they don't, they look like a shadow of them, their former selves. That's how they looked in the first 15 minutes, and we made them look like that. Yeah, definitely. I mean, Kev, when the goal comes, the switch from Trent, who's left side of center mid, it's ridiculous passing into space. Mo Salah just takes, takes a decade to the clears, and it's a precision cross. And Gackpo does what Gackpo does, which is back post tapping is either a bang from distance, or a back post tapping, there, there these two finishes. And what are we Gackpo's at? Scores games around Madrid, Scores games around the city, and it was no more than liberal dessert. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what Trent was doing there. It's a weird position for it to be in, because for the overwhelming majority of the game, he was really disciplined in the right position. Maybe it was just coming back and transitioning or something, and he was wandering across. That ball was ridiculous. The fade that he put on that, and the spin he put on it to hit the ground and for it to slow off, then the pass, the cross from Mo is a joke. From that angle, that cross had absolutely no right to get to where it got to. But it's the best type of cross because it's low, it's out of the keeper's reach. If it doesn't get the tap in, it might get a deflection. If it gets neither, it's got a really good chance of going in on its own. It was the perfect cross, and in fairness, the ball just bounces off gap. In the end, he didn't knock it in or tap it in. Literally, he let's it bounce up his shins, and in you go one-nil, and it's exactly what we deserved, because we were completely totally on top. It wasn't the case that, I don't think we was helter, scalter, or anything like that. It was really controlled. It was like we were pressing with the striker and the three behind, and the two four backs pushing up. What we've been doing all season, nothing special, nothing spectacular. And we let them have the first pass out from the back, and then swarm them, and we did it relentlessly for 24 minutes, and they had no answer to it, nothing. It was a matter of time, but the quality on that cross was unbelievable. It really was unbelievable. Actually, that first 15 minutes, the way swap was like playing the first six minutes, remind me of early clock with Lalana. It was, I start the press, and that's probably why you started, because the two centre backs and Gundigan didn't want any of that. And Gravenbuch followed up, you know, started to get a couple of sloppy yellows, but just after the goal, I think GAPO catches photo and accidentally underneath. So there's a bit of a delay of a couple of minutes, and you could see all city players pointing at each other, having to go at each other, and you're supposed to be here, you're supposed to be there. And it's thinking like, this is Liverpool we've seen a few years ago, where it's all going wrong. And they look like a side that's not relishing the, not relishing the fights, not relishing the challenge, because like all those cities, there's lots of things we don't like about them. You know, Kev can really list off what we don't like about city. But the thing you have to handle pressure, and the new how to go to big away games, and most times soak it up and accept and accept, you know, be humble. We're going to not have the ball. They're just a worry of that. They're just, they're not interested. And it's almost like, they're quite surprised what's happening. And maybe it's a little bit of poor recruitment, and I've said it before, and I say it again, I don't get the Ricoluis thing. I think he's a decent fallback. I don't think he can do the inverted thing. I think he was hung out to drive lane since the mid, and I don't think that helps. But if that's more on the manager. Yeah, I, the Ricoluis thing is, I think it's a separate issue. I don't know why Pep is trying to shoehorn him there. I think it might just be, you know, he doesn't trust players. Yeah, he can run, and he doesn't trust the other players. I think the interesting thing with City is that, you know, in years gone by, when things, things very rarely didn't go their way. Almost always things were going their way, and they were, you know, the, the school yard bullies. And I think what you're seeing right now is what happens when their backs are against the wall, and it's like they, that requires a different kind of character. There's, there's the character, you know, where you're just steamrolling sides, and, you know, you're comfortable, and, and you can continue that pressure, and City are very good at that. But when it comes to having your back against the wall, having to dig deep, and having to find solutions in amongst yourselves, I don't think they have that. I don't know who the kind of like, you know, grab the game by the scruff of the neck. Guy is in that team right now. In years gone by, it would have been, you know, De Bruyne with a little bit of brilliance that would have done that, but I don't know who that is in this game. And I mean, It used to be company. I think they thought Diaz, I don't think right Diaz as that organizer, but I think Diaz was more worried about his own game, because he's literally just come back from injury. Yeah, right. You know, I think there's too many, like, hoping somebody else bells him out. Well, and let's be honest, it was the perfect fourth birthday of all. And there were times you saw Van Dyke, you saw Graven Birch, you saw McAllister digging each other out, saying like, you know, that's your man, you know, that's what you've got to do. And it was covering the mates, but then, you know, I was like saying, keep the standard tie, keep, you know, because the end of the day, and we saw it not long after the gold kev, city could still hurt you. And while they didn't have any chances, they kept the ball for a good 10, 15 minutes. And then Liverpool went, were very organized, is sitting in the table, we're getting desperate to push them. They were just going to wrap, we'll look for a mistake now. We'll sit back. Wait, what city used to do? Yeah. But I mean, that's what, that's where the, that's where the anxiety where we came in at. It's only one there, which is like at some point, they're going to do something. And lately, it was more second half, but you know, if that's the worry you had. I'm just reading something here, on 21 minutes, right? This is what the, if that was put on. Liverpool have registered seven shots, four on target, with one off the post, while producing an XG of 1.41 in the first 20 minutes of the game, right? Man City, for their part, have zero in every single category. That is unheard of for a Man City 11. Full stop. It's the one thing that we, me and Gav are talking about in the preview. For all of the games that they've lost and the draw that they had and whatever, there were a constant goal threat in every single one. If, if that Spurs game had finished 4-4, there wouldn't have been an argument to over it, because of the amount that saves the Vicaria had to make in that game. The amount of chances, the amount of times they hit the woodwork, we gave them the sweet sum of fuck-all for the first 20-25 minutes of that game. And that is, I don't think we've ever done that to a Man City 11 ever. Well, if you're into the stats, those are always some people who will go with it. Liverpool's actually, for the entire game, was 3.53. Cities was 0.8. You know, that says, Liverpool should have won by at least three or four. So, by the point of the challenge. And we'll talk about some of the chances we didn't take and did take. Now, listen, having a penalty in there does almost add one goal onto it, but at the end of the day... Believe it's, though, trust your eyes. I haven't seen us play that well against anyone. I've seen us play it like that against sides who you're expecting to come on be. But when you're playing against a side who are four-time champions, who carry the threat that they do, and look, we all know the stuff that's going on behind the scenes with Man City, but at the end of the day, they're still the best side. They're still the biggest threat. They're the artistic. You know, for this league, they are the artistic. They're the measuring stick that everyone is compared to Barnock. So, do that to them. You've got to have a season saying, don't you? Finish both city, you generally win. You win the league. You win the league. Unless you really are looking another team has a storm with a book. Nine times out of ten, your aim is beat city. Yeah, I mean, I'll just be okay. I'm just looking here. Nunez... Yeah, Nunez was booked on 24 minutes, 32 minutes, fold and pulls Graven first back to end. I thought Graven first got away with one. He was cute with it, wasn't he? He definitely got one. He was very cute with the cotton really early. I think Kavana missed that one. I mean, never was raving about it in the commentary, but that's one that I expected Graven first to get a book in on. It's all he made up for it. He made up for it. He made up for it too, but it's later to make Jory get it. He made sure he got when I was 36, bundled under going over from well outside the box. And that was the one, you know. I looked back and I was like, at the time, I thought you didn't need to foul him. It looked like he was back to play through to Holland. Yeah, there was 3v2 and the pass was on. So he took one there and that's very low. That's only his third yellow card of the season. For so many players in that position is really, really good as well. So, you know, it was like, they had their first real chance on 39 minutes. You know, they fell to Ricolius when he tried to... Rubble got criticism in the commentary for backing off. But when you look at it from the back angle, he blocked off half the goal. But he had one way to go. He only had one way to go. And Robertson's like, look, I trust Calla hers behind me to cover that angle. So unless Lewis pins it right into the corner, you know, you're just playing the odds there. You know, I think if Robertson comes out to press, he risks leaving a leg out like he did at Madrid. And he risks a 1-2 around him and a simple chance. So I think he'd done the right thing. I also think it's, you know, when you play as well, I think that's Bernarda Silver and Gundigan or Harland. Maybe you try and press a bit, a bit closer, because you're like, actually, they can't put it anywhere. Yeah, but a young limbo player, you're never going to look to lay it off. So no, I think he did the right thing. I know he got a bit of, he got a bit of stick for it. I'm not sure he might have yet, but I think he did the right thing there. This episode is brought to you by United Airlines. 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Thankfully, today U has Bank of America, one place with tools and guidance to help balance tasks from budgeting to saving, so you can just be you. With big plans, do more with a bank that asks, what would you like the power to do? Explore our tips and more, bankofamerica.com/futureU. Yeah, I think so. So, actually, half time, one little up. All over the world, I think, I think we'll, I think it was me being panicky going, only criticism is it's one little. And I'd be honest, if you're a city, I think if I Christ, it's only one little. I think city would have gone at half time, made up thinking. We've got a way, almost like saying, we've got away with that. Now we can regroup. And as we saw, the second half started, let's be honest, first 15 minutes, city started really well. And really, it was like the city, you remember dominating the ball, you know, looking, threatening out wide. Didn't create massive chances, though. That's one thing you would say. Liverpool did restrict them to the odd header or a shot from distance, which was blocked. You know, I thought Liverpool kept themselves compact, but it was the first 10, 50 minutes, you were like, can't get the ball of them. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely a period of control. And I, you know, at some point, I don't know how much of that is, you know, our team deciding, okay, we're just going to suck up pressure here and defend and let them have the ball. I don't know if that was the goal there or if it was truly city taking the reins. I mean, I think we all expected them to at least have some sort of response at half time. But I think we were holding them at arm's length, to be honest. I think that, you know, they didn't look particularly dangerous. I think when the subs came on and the pacey wingers came on, that was when I saw, you know, a bit of a change with them getting the ball into our box. But up until then, I felt like it was just, you know, you're just holding your hand out, just kind of keeping them where you want to. We weren't attacking with the same ferocity that we were in the first half, though. And I think that that was making me a little bit nervous, where, you know, I felt like we needed that second goal. And I think that's where that feeling of, oh, we're being dominated. But I don't know if we were, per se. I don't think they were like peppering our goal. Kelleherr didn't have a time to do. - No, I mean, obviously, I had the joys of Gary Neville's. I mean, he was begrudgingly complimentary. I remember going, yeah, city got a lot of the ball said, but loop will look at trolling where it goes. I said, so they're not bothered. I mean, if we're honest, Kev, the two best chances early in the first half were both the pool ones. One was Van Bek's third-headed attempt, which he puts just over. And then the one way, I'll be honest, and I could have put we, I could have put we thought through the telly. And Mo Salah, clean through. And honestly, he's just like, all the way, we're going, right, this will be too nil. This will be secure and high, wide, handsome, a very darling new and stealth finish. You're like, oh, bollocks. - Tell you what, if there's somehow, I got laid back and I finished one one, would be fuming over that. Because that was his guilt edge, a chance. You put your Christmas wages on Salah finishing that. You would, you walk into the bookies, with your Christmas bonus, and you'd be like, yeah, he's nailing that. And I'm going to have a lovely, happy new year. - See, you say Mr. Solomon's got no Christmas present now, not thanks to those seven? - Oh, no, she's done, she's done, she's done. - Okay, we don't start to go for, we don't start to go for something for Kev. - It's done, it's done, trust me. - She's done, trust me. - No, it's done, Kev. - No, no, no, she's done. - We've already done that on the show last week. - She's actually going to pick up her mother, my mother-in-law from the airport, so I've got my mom-in-law from the week, so I'm looking forward to that. That should be a good laugh. But no, no, I'm going to see my mother-in-law next weekend, who's a big believer. - Listen, this one, he has to score, he just does. Irrespective of the game, irrespective of the result, he has to finish that. He takes a little bit off, if he takes a little bit off of it, he just chips the keeper, and it's too now, enjoy the rest of the game. But overall, listen, that second half, Man City has 66% of possession, all right, and barely mind, we finished the game stronger. Their XG was 0.75, they had a total of two shots on target in the second half of a game where they had to win, where a draw was never enough. That's, and you made a comment to me, to us all in the group, while the game was going on, the more I think about it, you know, take a bow, because you can get right. - So what are these ones out? - It's, this side has learned to love defending it. - Yeah. - And the... - We had that in 19-20. - Yeah, we had that in 19-20. - Nothing signified, I know I'll get ahead of it, but one is fresh in my head. - Darwin. - Right at the death, Darwin at right back, putting a tackle in. Big pump, fist pump into the crowd. Nothing signaled how much this squad want this. - He saw it, he saw Van Dyke track as soon as he, because Van Dyke had just, I mean earlier, what a very good tackle, which would be Miss Town as a penalty. And then he goes straight to Darwin, he does the exact same tackle, and he gets, initially, it is like the high five of Van Dyke like, that's what you need to do. It's now not about trying to get a clever goal or do some fancy it into dirty work, and throw him a dirty work in. And to refer to Darwin, that society of his game is actually always, to be fair, embraced. He's always embraced doing the dirty work, you know. Is that, you know, is all round game that's he got a lot better? It's still the finishing criticism, but what comes down? Because actually, I thought actually he was very effective when he came on as a sub. So they brought on, Docu and Savino for the two of all lads, and you're like, "Okay, fine." I think Savino barely touched the ball, I don't think they got him in the game, but they kept giving the ball to Docu. I'm going to say it out now, he is the city version of Adalma Traore. He's all pace. He occasionally beats a man and puts it in the stand. Beats the man, puts it into a post. So for me, he had so little end product, he's so not a city winger. What do you think when they had, look, he's not the player he was, but sterling for city with dangerous maras for city. You know, they're the wing you should think of when you think of a city winger. You know, who could do all the tricks, do all the pace, but they can score. Killer, absolute killer, be like, "Fucking hell." You know, it's like, you know, when city's to bring maras on, he's scarves shit. Something's going to happen. He's going to do something. He always would. I just don't see it with Docu. Savino, I think, you can see what he looks more like as, a Leroy sarni type. Look at him, he goes, I could see what he could be, but he's still very young. I don't. I look at him and I see him as... I had to go green with some more, I brought Docu up. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I was like, you're bringing on these two tricksters. And yeah, they can beat him that. They can beat a man. But if they pay for anyone else, they'd be compared to Anthony. You know, they've got all the skill in the world. They can go past the player, they go past the guy, and then they want to go back and beat him again. And try and beat him a third time for kicks. It's like they've got no football intelligence whatsoever. And neither of them, neither of them look like they can score, but I didn't realise, Ernie Holland is the only player to score in the Premier League for Man City this season. We're 13 games in, 12 games. You've already all scored head to head. No, not in the Premier League. Are you sure? Yeah, I've got all of them. Not in the Premier League, apparently. There was a stat that they were given out. I look quite a second goal scorer. I know that one. No, but during the half time, because they had to double check it, the early Holland was the only scorer for Man City in the Premier League this season with 13 goals. That's wild, if that's true. I mean, obviously he covers so many cracks, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. I mean, for some reason, I feel like... Well, if they got it wrong, if they got it wrong, it's the college mistake, not mine. So it cancels your subscription and, you know, do what you've got to do. But I'm just having a look there to see... Where are the table? Premier League. All right, Man City have scored 22 goals, conceded 19, Holland has earned 13 legal, so obviously someone else has scored more. But they might have been talking about players from the starting 11 that started today. But every which way you look at it, if you look at Man City's forwards of years gone by, everyone contributed. Everybody contributed goals, whether it was from midfield, whether it was the wingers, the centre backs were chipping from corners. It's all on early Holland's shoulders. Early Holland touched the ball to this 16 times. In 97 minutes of football, he touched the ball 16 times. What an effort by us. That's all us. But all the other goalscorers for City didn't start today. Yeah. Yeah, so you've got the other goalscorers for this season. DeBrenna has won, Dofu has won, Stones has two, Kovacic has three, and Govardiel has three. And then you jump up to Holland at 12. Yeah, it's... Which is mad at it. Ridiculous, isn't it? And in fairness, when you factor in how good Phil Fulton is, the Phil Fulton has scored a goal yet in the Premier League, the season. That's crazy. And he went through a stage where he always scored a big football. He did it fast. Stage where every time they started out, he'd always get it. He had a stage where he was like our little demon. I think he still is. Don't come here. I think he still is. It's just at the minute. And look, as much as it pains me, no sign has ever done five in a row in Premier League era. So it shouldn't be a massive shock that given the transfer of business they did in the summer, that they haven't been able to go again. But even still, seeing it in real time, bear in mind the reputation and the aura that Guardiola has as a coach, it's still weird watching this. You know, it's like, I don't think anybody, I thought... He looks a bit lost. Yeah, he does. He looks a bit lost. Well, it is. It means the worst road he's ever been on as a manager. So, you know, you would look a bit lost when you've never experienced it, this level of defeat and draws before. But yeah, I don't know, his body language doesn't inspire confidence, does it? So, but then, actually we bring on a couple of subs, you know, Gackpo gets a standard ovation. Darwin Eunice comes on, which it felt that we needed something different to come on just because city was dominating the ball. A general concert came on for Trent, which we kind of all... Gary never may not realize this because he definitely does it in our comms. Trent's just come back from a need from a hamstring injury. So, he's never going to play a full game. So, hey, guess what? It's a prearranged sub. Probably didn't think it wasn't prearranged. Oh, sorry, it was prearranged. We didn't think it was Goma stayed the centre back and Kwanza went right back. I didn't hate it. No, no, he played really well. But he said to me to come around and go, "Oh, Goma's got to right back. Kwanza goes to centre back." That's the routine we've always seen. You're like, "Oh, no, Kwan's staying right back." And he did really well. And I think that what that tells you, or at least what it tells me, is that he's going to lock that down as a centre back partnership until Ibu comes back. I think he's going to want to build up some rhythm between Goma's and Virgil and have that be a thing, and then have Kwanza be that supplementary defender that needs whenever he wants to come on. Because I mean, Kwanza's got the skillset for it. But I think what has stood us in good stead so far is locking down that centre back partnership. And if Ibu's going to be out for the next month, I think this is Joe Goma's chance to step up. And he's more than capable of doing that. So I don't know. That's what I took from that. And then it's kind of like a similar scenario where I think he's going to want the players to have a position that's locked down, kind of like with Gekko staying wide out left, where that's his position. So yeah, interesting, interesting, unexpected, but interesting. I mean, Kwanza, well, we're on the subject, Joe Goma's. What all you could say is he didn't miss Ibu. And that's a massive compliment to Joe Goma's because Ibu Karate has been the Ibu Karate that we saw a couple of years ago, you're like, and let's be honest, we're all a bit concerned going, that's a big player to lose. Honestly, it's like Joe Goma's been playing there all season. And you wouldn't think that was his first Premier League style of the season. No, you wouldn't. Joe was outstanding. Composure on the ball. I think they were all under the impression that he might be a weak link. His pace has always been there. But his composure on the ball and his passing range today stood out, wasn't afraid to play the wrecking Crossfield pass. The fact that he's been doing that from full back, you always know that he's got his locker now. But if there was any doubt, any danger, or any risk of pulling the ball in through midfield, straight back to colour her out the oversight. The one thing that City did do is they blocked off the route to Van Dyke during the goal kicks very quickly. They would not let the ball go to Van Dyke for Van Dyke to play the overtop ball into Salah at all. They shot that down really early. So it was all on Joe Goma's and Trent from that side to be the outlet. There was a few times that they were able to play into midfield and a quick 1-2 in the middle of the park in Umaray. There were a couple of ones that McAllister played off of what Salah was like. And you could see the taking the ball in the half turn and moving. It was effortless for him, but you could tell they've worked on it. It's the patterns they've played that they're working on of, who to be, where and when. But yeah, Joe Goma's today, considering I don't think he's played 90 minutes in the league this season. No, he hasn't. No, but he was accurate when he came on as that's up. Yeah, and the other thing with Gerald Kwanza going on at right back, the amount of times that Kelleher or Goma's was on the ball. And Gerald Kwanza was on his bike. He was gone. Didn't matter what minute of the game it was. It wasn't playing like, you see Sentibak's playing full back goal, right? I'm here to do a job. Yeah, I'm talking. Yeah, I'm talking it and keeping it tight. He's like, I'm off lads, it was very, it was like, what's the job matter? It was like, what's the job matter? Down the wing. It was brilliant. I'm having me jarlings here lads. Just, just combine me with the ball there and I'm going to run it to pull back. I'm loving that. I suppose if Slaw's a docu, he'd get docu much change and docu's quick. You know, and, you know, the whole thing he was saying, Kwanza, he's not the quick. He's not slow, but he's not the quickest. No. He played right back before Kwanza. He was a right back in, like, youth soccer or a beautiful ball. Oh my God, slip, Freudian slip. That's the process. I'm sorry, but he wasn't right back, so it's not completely foreign to him. No, but the other side of it is the fact that he's six foot three, six foot four. He's got long levers to be able to make up the ground and he's a big unit together. And the amount of clubs who are playing a centre back, out of full back, who's comfortable on, Ibu played for a good while at Leipzig as a right back. You know, with Mucieli, it was there at the time, and they used to swap between the two. You know, so who will go out and play on, play it full back? And it's like, I just look at it with, yeah, that is an option. It's a nice thing to be able to do and to have the comfort and the confidence to be able to do it. Because look, 10 minutes to go, if they get one, they get, you know, the nerves set in, the vibe goes around the ground and you're holding on a bit. But he was excellent, you know, and I think the confidence you'll get from that. Because look, with the injuries that we've picked up over the last seven days, the drunk ones that Joe Gomez are going to be huge. We've got five defenders, and probably for the whole Christmas period. Denny Hope is, the talk was, Simicast was just a role as an uncle. He might be back in a week or so, but he's in a mood booth at the moment, which is slightly concerned. I mean, the hope is, over side of the derby, you have Simicast back as a, the left back option, at least then that order free as a rotation option there. Actually, he's getting some absolute... - I know, I'm sorry. - Hell's his image. - You know how hard he is to like, constantly make sure that I use the right word for it. - Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, Ashley, it's not as bad as she's just a process. That's still... - That's not a process. - That's not getting... - Kev misquoted me. - I did. I did. I hold my hand up. I didn't mean it, honestly. - Kev, it's not with me. That's the shit stereo. - You know what? - I almost do, so I'm quite glad. - This is like, my brain is elsewhere. I'm just glad that I'm here. - Let's talk about the penalty then. - Yeah, so Darwin was excellent when he came on. Yeah, the one chance early on when he cut inside and looked for the pass, he hasled a life out of Diaz who tried to claim it was a free kick. It wasn't, it was a perfectly legit vertical. And then Louis Diaz, who, let's be honest, as a number nine, fed on scraps, ran his bollocks off, got through, moat as well, because mo realized he's offside and pulls himself away, thinking, "So I can't be done for interfering with play." I was like, "I'll take it." I don't know where he was going. It just decided it was the most stonewall penalty I've ever seen in my life. And they were trying to claim, City Wolf was trying to claim it's outside the box, which is Kev rightly pointed out to us. That's fine. That's how the box is off. So which one do you want? So it's the most nailed-on penny you've ever seen in your life. - Yeah, it was the hard work of press player coming on. The energy of a press player could be on the creator, in the chance. But yeah, I was looking at it, when I very first saw it, I thought, "That's close to the line." If he's outside the box, it's a red card. It's inside the box, it's pink, because he nailed on. He nailed on clean the mouth. It wasn't until I had seen the replay that, yeah, he was a mile inside the box. It was a storm war thing. But after Salah's missed the overnight, it was like... I told you, you have to miss it against Madrid when you're winning box at against it. Well, look, the miss against Madrid, he horrendously miskicked it. - Yeah. - He horrendously miskicked it. But you don't often see Salah take you apparently low to the opposite side. That was a different, you don't often see that one. But the power that was on it, because Ortega went the right way. And even if it was less power, I think Ortega gets it. The power and the accuracy, the precision on that penalty was perfect. It was, you know, bang, have that to know. And then it was like, you can breathe and relax. Because, look, at 1-0, there's always the chance. Even if they get one ball into Holland, and they tried it a few times. - This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game? 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Order yours in the act. - Going direct to Holland. And birds are pulled off one of the absolute best interceptions. I've seen this season. - He was a genius. And he is always curious against Holland. - Oh yeah. - Always. But the other one where he got kind of almost bambastened it, tried to take it on his foot in the air, and he was very close to it. But other than that, nothing, but at one no, you never know. At two no, you can relax. And it was literally a kiss. That went into that, and we literally just enjoyed the rest of it. We got to a point towards the end of the game, where we were taking the piss out of them. - There were some old lays at the end that was fantastic. - Yeah. - Oh, Anfield was rockers today. Anfield was really, really, really old. - They got the reaction out of Pepsi, and you're getting slapped in the morning, and Pep put his six fingers off. I assume that's for the, as you said, for six European cups, he was talking about what, just like, Anfield does get on the Pepskin. He just does like go into Anfield. He really doesn't like it. - You know what I mean? I think, and I've got a theory with this. I think, and I believe this to be true, he's like Jose, they wish they were our manager. I honestly believe that Pep Guardiola would have loved to manage Liverpool. - I think that he always wanted to be lauded and praised the way that clock. - Yeah, yeah. - And I think that he knows, he knows they're like, you know, we're going to go like, I know this will be a proper opinion, because it's a little podcast. If he comes to Man United, and wants to come to Man United, - Oh, yeah. - You get that adulation, because... - Absolutely. - No. - Almost as we dislike Man United, they have got that similar sort of feeling about them, which is why it's so funny that the shit at the moment. - Yeah, well, it's like, but you go up in Barcelona, and winning a Barcelona when you could be the Israeli arbiter is one thing, okay? You go to Bayern Munich, and he did what he was expected to do. Yes, he won in Europe, fine. When you come to Man City, and it's literally, his marinio put it in an interview once, I don't like the fullbacks I have, sign me four more. The keeper that I brought in, I don't like, bring me a new keeper. This player, I don't like, bring me two more, you know? That doesn't wash in normal football, anywhere else. - No. - And for that reason alone, he will never get the respect that an Alex Ferguson gets, even if he ever matched or surpassed what a Ferguson did, you know? He will never get that respect from football fans outside of Man City, and the amount of football fans outside of Man City, Man City are far and away a bigger number than Man City supporter based in football. I mean, because they are a mid-table to Yo-Yo club. That's all they are. The second team of Manchester, the Yo-Yo club, who got the offer ticket more, you know? - I think you can see now. - That's all they are. - You can see now, like, I don't think anyone is going to come on here and say that Pep's not a good coach. He's a fantastic coach. - Oh, he is. - But I think what you're seeing now is what happens when you don't have all those resources at your disposal, and you have to find those answers from within the squad, or you have to kind of shoehorn players in that you wouldn't normally shoehorn in, or bring in academy players that you wouldn't normally trust. And I think that you're seeing Pep's struggle. And it's not probably not the only reason that they are where they are, but I think that it's one of the reasons. I think that this is a major challenge for him as a coach, and it's up to him whether or not he wants to rise to that occasion, because those are the things that Klopp did that made him great, at least to us in our eyes. And I don't really care what other fans think, but you know, if you look back to Klopp's great periods, you know, even just winning the care about Cup last year with all those kids, that's an amazing achievement. I don't think Pep can do that. And so it's up to him if he wants to raise his game and try. - I mean, as much as we don't want to talk about them, look us from the title's money item, and we're focusing. Look at the team he won his last title with. We saw the year after, it was an average man United squad. It will never go down as a great man United squad, but he got that squad over there. Even he got to a Champions League file that is two-star in mid-sentiment in Keenan's goals. You know, he had to play a Nikki Bort and convert David Vech from a right winger to a sentiment, which at the time wasn't really a done-think, you know. So, you know, that's why Vogue sort of manages a load a bit more, because they can do it when it's not always ideal. - Yeah, 100 cents. - I think that's where it goes again. Speaking of not ideal, Mr Van Dyke was Mr Van Dyke apart from one moment, where he had a complete break for us. And the groin was clean through either. Oh, fucking hell. And the groin absolutely shits himself when Keller came up and he's just sat on it. And my wife doesn't really watch football, has no real interest football said. Have you seen Captain America when he said it's like when he jumps on the, when he jumps on the grade halfway through the film, there's a very niche reference. And it's like, it is just like, yeah, that was it. That was the only thing I remember Keller doing the whole game, which was sitting on the ball of runs of De Broglie. That was it. - Yeah, that's what it is. - That's what he's there for. - That's what he's there for that. - He's there for, you know, the whole right part that we have. - The whole right key, don't we? That's his job. - I'll tell you one thing, his distribution was very good. He was very calm and assured on the ball. Aware of the, obviously, surroundings at all times. It's must be really difficult to be a goalkeeper in those, in these type of games, against the quality opponent, where danger could happen at any minute. And he was just on it. I mean, there was a silly mistake from Van Dyke. Tried to do a cry of turn and got it completely wrong. And as you say, De Broglie now was cold onto the pitch and just didn't sniff it out. The, the one, the biggest worry I had from with that, was De Broglie now flicking to the side and kind of heard bring him down. And this was Ben. You know what I mean? - Well, I can tell her her in pens. I mean, maybe it's not. - Yeah, maybe it wouldn't. Yeah, it wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been cold anyway. - Yeah. - But yeah, overall, we, we, we posted the last. - I mean, that was the worst of the best, I think, you know. - But that was it. It's like, we posted the last 10 minutes. We worked on, we worked our socks off. You know, the fallback, I was only joking about the quality we got on his bike. The work that the fullbacks did, you know, I said, you know, when they brought on the two wingers, they were going to be tested one v one. And they stood up to it and then they were backed up as well. So after all, the running that we did today, brilliant. You know, it was an outstanding team performance and thoroughly deserved to know when. But in truth, it really should have been for and maybe, it should have been for. And that's not, I mean, one of the best for half performance. - Yeah, Van Dyke should have finished one of those chances from the service. But I think the one he saw all the way, he'll be disappointed. He didn't get that one on target. And Salah has. - It's the most Salah one for me. - Yeah, that one, that one's unbelievable. - That being said, it was another example of Salah not letting that miss go to his head because he could have quite easily. - He never does to be fantastic. - He never does, which is part of what makes him so fantastic. But that's what I was thinking with the penalty, having just missed a penalty as well. You know, that takes a lot of mental fortitude. - Yeah, speaking of mental fortitude, I was nearly making Matt so proud. He thought I was about to transition into a really good talk about our charities. I was like, oh, that would have been a great transition. Just need to work on that. But David Matheson has gifted five talking cop memberships. So getting where you can, you get a free membership for a month then, which would be quality. And then you get to listen to us three all the time, including our member shows, which are always good fun. So, but also let jokes aside, let's talk about charities. So we're still trying to raise money for our two charities, which is the Lighthouse Cafe in Dublin and fans supporting food banks in Liverpool. The aim is to get to 10,000 euro, and we'll split it 55th between two charities. So listen, if you can't give, you know, please share it around social media, WhatsApp groups, because this is the time of year when these sorts of charities really need your help. It's going to get cold, you know, and people shouldn't be hungry, or they wouldn't be hungry for a stop. It's a, you know, 2024, we shouldn't have to have this as a problem. But this time of year, it's cold, you know, the least we could do is try and raise money to help give people food over Christmas time, you know, and just help families out. So please do what you can, and we'll go from there. So after that, um, the crowd, there's been a lot of crowd chat this season, hasn't that actually about, you know, or what's the atmosphere like, yeah, the idea, and I think a lot of it is a lot of hot air and hype by people who just want something to moan about because I've got family members who have been on the cop in the 80s and 70s, and they will tell you this has always been a mo. And when you're playing bottom of the league at home, that's very shit, because people just want the game done. This is when you see the impact of a crowd. It's the big games, it's the moment we need it. And I thought the crowd was excellent for that, especially for the first 15 minutes a second half, where City had the ball a lot and was raging and getting, I'm making it a hostile atmosphere. And I thought that helped. Yeah, I think, I think it was the Anfield wrap that made a really good point where they said that the Anfield atmosphere is not a soundtrack. It's not a course of people that are there constantly. They react when the team needs them. And then there are periods of natural lulls and natural highs. It's not something that's pumped in by the television broadcasters. It's a real living breathing thing and it will change. And I think what you're seeing this week is how it's, I actually appreciate that there are highs and lows and how when the team needs it, Anfield really steps up. And you saw that in the Madrid game and you saw it today, you saw the crowd absolutely get fired up and drag the team along when they needed it. But I do think that it's just a moan for a mone's sake, because I think that if you go to any of the other stadiums, they're all going to have highs and lows. And I doubt any of them are as good as Anfield. I mean, if you talk to any player or you're interviewing any player, they're all saying Anfield is the atmosphere that they most fear. So I don't know. I think people need to give it a rest with the atmosphere thing. I think our fans are absolutely incredible. Yeah. So Kev, I'm going to make a decision. I think we should have a new feature on the show. I think I've just created it. We call it Ashley Talks about. And I think this is where we'd like to do other quotes. We have the Ashley talk, but we're actually going to read all the quotes off, because to be fair, Ashley does all the hard work for this. I feel like Matt is way better at the quotes, actually reading them. But you know, yeah, yeah, but me and Kev aren't. So that's why we're taking it off. So possibly for Ashley. I'm doing my best because you do all the hard work. So I'll do my best. You do the hard work. I'm going to get a beer. Okay. You do all the hard work. That's like a fair trade off. I think it did look there, Ashley. Oh gosh. Okay. So there were a few post-match interviews. There was Mo and Virgil at the end. Mo was obviously asked about his contract, which unfortunately is something that we'll have to talk about. So he said, "Honestly, it is in my head. Until now, this is the last city game I will play for Liverpool. So I was just going to enjoy it." And he said this kind of like, he was prodded by the reporter. He didn't bring this up on his own like last week or like. No, but also it's also a bit common sense as well. Until he starts a new contract, it will be. Yeah. So he continued. He talked about the atmosphere being incredible. He is going to enjoy every second here. Hopefully we just win the league and we will see what happens. He was, like I said, he was pretty relaxed about it. In the interview, I watched it myself before coming on here. So I wouldn't read too, too much into it. On Anfield, he said, "It's very special. I don't take it for granted. I'm enjoying every minute here. It feels like home. It's always special feeling. Always scoring at Anfield and winning games." Which is why I still fit myself, I still. Yeah, like I said, I wouldn't read too, too much in this. This was pulled out by a reporter. Virgil was asked afterwards. He said, "I think City is a fantastic team. Four-time champions in a row. They have the quality to punish any team, but I think we were solid defensively and had great chances, but we could have scored more." Which I think we all agree with. He continued, because the interviewer had asked, "How do you feel about being 11 points clear?" His response was, "We focus on the next game. That's the only thing that we can do. There's no point at this stage of the season to get ahead of ourselves." Which is kind of the party line that you heard from Hendo, sort of a continuation of that. So Slott's post-match quotes afterwards. He said, "Yeah, if you look at the work rate, I think it was perfect. The amount of chances we missed made it tight at the end, but it would have been nicer to score the second goal earlier." I think we'd all agree with that as well. He continued, "We always press high, but they're so good at build-up. So you have to work very hard. Our players had energy. Apart from our players, the crowd was fantastic today as well." He continued, "We are a compatible team, and it's difficult to beat us, but also we have to put the effort in. But we have injuries. We have to take Trent off. It would have been a risk." The quote continues. These are the challenges we face at the moment, but every team has to face these challenges over a season. He went on to say, "If you want to win against City, you have to be perfect in every part of the game. We weren't perfect, but we came close to perfection. That is the only way to beat City." He continued, "Next week is another big week against Newcastle and Everton. Ideally, I would have loved to have seen the second half being the same as the first half, but the quality of the other team." I don't think anyone, including me, would have predicted this start. I knew Jurgen left a team in a good place, but still, against all the teams that we have played. And then Guardiola was interviewed post-match about our crowd, and he said, "Sacked in the morning chance. Maybe they're right with the result that we've been having." I didn't expect that at Anfield, and he continued. It's all right. He continued and basically was just saying, "Oh, I wouldn't have expected that from the Anfield crowd. I thought they would have been better than that, but just Pat being snarky." Excellent, which is what we always like, isn't it? Obviously, we got in his head, so... Okay, so, Kev, usual feature. By the match, honourable venture could do better. Right, and I'm having it as well, because Gary Knubble's a twat. Is that could do better, or is that in which one? No, I don't think he can do better. I think it comes naturally to him. He's just so good at it. No, Virgil van Dijk is the man in the match. The way he managed and Marshall, that backlying, he was outstanding from start to finish. Should have scored a couple, definitely scored one. Should could have had two, but he literally gave early Harlan nothing. Harlan that surprised me that he started... I know he did it. He started on van Dijk's side, looking to run into the space in behind Joe Gomez, but he gave early Harlan absolutely nothing, not a sniff. And that is good at performances. I've seen Virgil put down this season by a comfortable distance. Yeah, he was brilliant. Honourable mention. Alexa McAllister, actually, very neat and tidy in the middle of the park, but when he got the chance to get on the ball and to carry it and relieve pressure, he was always looking to be that option. His second man press today was really up to the mark, but he was very good. Could do better. I think it's Harlan Salah that, you know, goal and assist. The assist for the cross is absolutely world-class, but he really should be tough in that chance away. Oh, can't come on. He should be, come on. Let's call it as is. If you're going to be honest, you've got to be honest. And then, you know, you can see it after winning 2-0. If you think about it, you sound like you're bitchered, but if you're winning, mate, I'd fancy talking that away. I'd even bet you would. I'll forgive him. I'll forgive him. You'd tell him not to my left foot. Honestly, I can barely stand with it. No, you have to be scoring that. I wouldn't have been much more upset with him if he hadn't scored the penalty. So I will forgive him. Redeeming features. Exactly. God, I actually got to your throat. All right. I mean, I think the correct answer is Virgil, but, you know, so as not to, you know, over praise or copy Kev, I'm going to give it to Saab's life, because I just think that the energy that he had throughout the game really set the tone for the rest of the team. And I think that a lot of Saab's life's work is sort of unsung hero work, where he's not always getting a goal, but I think that he was the one that kept that engine taking over. And the amount of running that he did, I think, was spectacular. So I will give him the man of the match, even though I do think it's Virgil first. Um, two, let's see. Honorable mention is Grinchy Kev. Sorry, Dave's just on the shot. This time of year, it's called Grinchy Kev. Well, I'm going to make Grinchy Kev more upset, because I'm going to give my honorable mention to Mo Salah, because even though he missed that goal, which absolutely should have been put away, he is still that guy that's putting the points on the board. And, you know, we will miss him when he's gone. I don't know when that's going to be. And I just think that having the mentality that I talked about earlier in the show, to just be able to put that miss out of his head, and, you know, have a high, high pressure penalty, scored in the emphatic way that he did, you know, credit where credit just do there. Um, could you better? I think the team as a whole was a fantastic performance. And I actually don't want to single anyone else else. It doesn't have to be a little bit. It doesn't have to be a little bit. Well, that's what I'm going to say. You're just going to take away my thunder. I'm not taking her thunder away. It's Pat with his mental health because I think he's going to lose it. I think he's going to lose his mind. I think him holding up his little fingers to the crowd is the most petulant thing that I've seen so far this season. So he's going to do better. Cool. Okay. So I think the answer is BVD, but I'll go for, I'll give it right. Grandin Burch because he's playing like the six we all want. And it's 13 games in now. We've done our last little, we've done city of it. They only recognize top six. I guess I played against you. His Spurs, you know, and he got an early booking. So I thought he did well. I think some slides have got you out, though, for our putting his own rule mentioned, because I thought he worked his ass off, but the criticism of some slides has always been his use of the ball when he gets it. And as he thought, it is used to ball. Today was excellent. Could do better. It's a toss-up between Gary Neville and Bernardo Silver. Gary Neville, who just tries to cry and eat it. And Bernardo said that he tried to be a wide up version and just realized he, I mean, he went to square up to Mox Island and shit. The bed realized Mox was quite big and he walked away. He's a shadow what he used to be. So he's now just like, just a little kick version. So good thought. Good thought. That was, that was a good, I really enjoyed that actually. I enjoyed solid getting in his face. I feel like so often it's been the other way around. And I don't really see solid getting like a little bit aggressive. And I feel like him getting in his face, I don't know what he said. What he got aggressively started smiling then. Oh, no, it was great. That's what you would do. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he said. But you know, throw it in the comment section, what you think Mosala said to, you know, that little rat. Cool. Um, Claire in the, Claire's put mother match. Gomez VBD, I mean, to be fair, Joe Gomez. We've already said was seamless. And Claire said, honorable mention Trent. Yeah. I mean, Trent's first start. Trent did well. Since injury and did well defensively at two feet. Defensively all season. He's been very good. You know, so it's almost like he actually was a good defender and people forgot. But you know. I do think he's actually improved a little bit with slot. I think his defending has improved. And I think he's asked. I think he's asked to do less as well. I do think he's asked to do lots of the invert, right? You know, it is like, no, you've got to be right back. You will occasionally invert, depending on your playing, but generally stick to the right back role. And he's very, he's very, very good at it. Yeah. Yeah. My jacket was great. Creed didn't put a foot wrong. Uh, virtual loads of the pines. Yeah. That'll be the first time. Yeah. So cool. So in terms of the best part of this, Kev, is as what reaction does this win? Have on rivals. Let's talk. Let's be honest. Arsenal, who are very loud and are very gobby. And I'm saying they've seen chinks in the pool. You know, we've already had, um, peps. Eds, I don't know, pep. Artetto's like Mini-Pep. Um, say it doesn't have to be in top this time. You know, it's where you are in May, which we'll all, you should know May, because it's the last two years you've done that. Um, this is a, if, if we were in the, if we were in Arsenal's boot, you'd be desperate for somebody to get something today. Yeah. And the fact that people have won and won comfortably, that's got to be a bit of a kick in the ball. Yeah. There's certain games in the season where you look out for it. Someone is running away with it. Then it's any game against the top four side. And any game that's a top away fixture. For us, you know, Newcastle. The next two are. Next two are tough. Yeah, next two are, you know, Newcastle and Everton away. You're looking for anything to come out of that. Arsenal, in all honesty, if they can keep their best 11 on the pitch, for a long period of time, they'll pick up wins and they're not going to go away. You know, they're a top side to beat. The score goes for fun. You've seen that yesterday with their fight to win, you know, despite, you know, some of the decisions in that game. Well, they're not sitting, they're not going to go away. They're winning off games, but they're not going to be able to keep their core together on the pitch for the rest of this season. There's just way too much football going on and he's plugged them to win an inch of their life over the last two years, just to try to maintain the pace with City as it was. Chelsea are the unknown quantity in all of this because they're a very young squad still learning together and, you know, still evolving. So we don't know what they're going to do. The question really becomes, you know, are we going to drop four losses? And are they going to be able to catch us? If we decide, if we drop, not decide it, if we drop four games. They decide to. No, but if we drop four games, are they good enough to be perfect? And I don't think either of them are. I think today should have put pay to City 11 points is just too big an ask. Irrespective of what Manchester City's side, you know, from the past was there, it's not. That Manchester City side is a shell of its former self. They look mentally fragile and they just don't look right. The other side who's in fourth of Brighton, look Brighton would be quite happy to finish anywhere near around Europa League spots. They'll be delighted with that. Yeah, Brighton's issue is, they've actually been dropping points in games. You wouldn't expect to draw them as a Hampton loose into wolves. They're the sort of results you're going, you don't really expect. They're actually the games you expect them to win. And that's the case with Brighton. Chelsea are the unknown quantity. The only thing with Chelsea is, is the squad probably just a little bit too young yet for it? Possibly, but I do think, and it keeps that squad together, that squad's got to be a problem in the next year or two, because they're all in eight-year contracts. It's not for days. And also, there are eight-year contracts owned by them. Exactly. They'll be around for a while. They're not going to go away anytime soon. But it's at the stage of the minute where, we look after our own business and let the rest of them get a quick in their net looking up, because at this stage of the season, 13 games gone. We're over a third of the way through the season now, and that's a nine-point gap. That is going to be-- Only the fourth time ever that there's been that big of a gap at this stage. And I won't jinx it by saying what happened. We know what happened with this. No, but in fairness, that's what should happen. You should be going on to win the title from here. If we don't go on a win the title from here, there's been a major, major, major problem. You know, we're nine points clear. We've played virtually everyone, varspurs and Newcastle and Everton. You know, you'd expect to be able to give you real problems. So as it stands at the minute, I said it before, I was, "Look, I don't think Arsenal are good enough to catch us." And after seeing City today, they're definitely not good enough to catch us. The only way we don't win the title from here is if we somehow blow it. Yeah, there is that. I mean, put it away. For Arsenal to get to 90 points now, they've got to go at a rate that we've got after the first 13 games. They've got it up for the remainder of the season. Go at 2.6 points a game, which is pretty much with 9 out of 10, till the end of the season. That's a tough rub, you know. Are they capable of it? Potentially, yeah. We've seen them go long runs before. But they do come in the field, which is another kind of back pocket card that you could pull. I think if we are still nine points ahead of whoever's second by New Year's Day, I think that'll have it done that. I'd like to hope so. I mean, I think everyone's just trying to stay conservative, because nobody wants to get hurt in this situation. But it's good to have. You need to be able to enjoy it. I mean, to put it to context, when we last won the league in 1920, when we beat Leicester, we went 13 points clear on the top of the league. That was Christmas time. So if you get anything close to that by Boxing Day, you know the run. You know what's to come there. And Liverpool don't have. Liverpool touchward. Probably aren't going to have to play in European games until March, because we're probably going to not have to have a playoff stuff, which Arsenal and Arsenal probably won't have to, but City are definitely not looking certain to not have to do a playoff as well, which is something else they could do without, really. So anyway, so tonight at 10, it's a, I think it's just Gavin Mat on the Fatback 4. So it's-- It's your team, eh? So I could be in the same way. What could go wrong? And then look, hit the bell icon and subscribe, all that good stuff. And we'll have shows for days, you know, for the rest of the week, you know, we're back on us through back Wednesday for post-match reaction with Newcastle. And I'm sure we'll do a preview show as well. We may even have maths. We might like, we might let that back, we might let this out of the chair. You might come out eventually. Yeah, eventually, you know, until, but until then, enjoy the rest of your Sunday, hopefully, we'll see a lot of you at 10 o'clock. But it finished. Liverpool 2, Man City nil. Liverpool are nine points at the top of the league. Let's keep it going as there is a Premier League to win here. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [CHEERING] Your child's first step is a big step towards their future. With first step by College Invest, every Colorado child born or adopted on or after January 1, 2020 will receive a free $115 contribution to their College Invest College savings account. Plus, we'll match a percentage of your contributions in the coming years, helping you save even more. Enroll today and start your child off on the right foot. Visit ColoradoFirstStep.org to get started and claim your $115 now.
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