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Ep. 946. What Should One Do if They Hear a Bracha That Was Not Permitted According to Halacha?
What Should One Do if They Hear a Bracha That Was Not Permitted According to Halacha?
Welcome everybody to Kingdom of 946 getting back to our health as Brakhaz. Okay so we are in the middle of Brakhazh in its Rihiqaloonin dal loksh Brakhal of Atala Brakhazh in its Rihiqal some of their lokshaz anyways which is I came across a few interesting questions just to be aware of it's not so much Nageh al-Amisa but interesting questions in reference to we said if somebody makes a Brakhazh that they now let them make like a Brakhazh in his Rihiq right the Brakhal of Atala not not just they now let them make it but you now let it answer I mean even though you'll say what do you mean I heard a shvach I heard I heard praise to Hashem and it does make a difference you don't if there is somebody makes the real Brakhal of Atala real Brakhazh in its Rihiq say you don't answer I mean so the deer shoe in OI's 13 and I was simming this whole I was simming rage test 12 brings down some interesting questions first of all we spoke about in reference to if somebody is davening loud some of these amish monessary loud so we said in general one so in other words I hear the guy making the Brakhaz should I be saying on main not saying on main he's not supposed to be davening loud right so so someone to say what do you mean he's going connect al-Lokshah so how could you say her main it's really he's not doing the right thing so we saw the best thing to do in those cases is to if possible to move away as much as possible so that you don't hear it so you don't come into a esophic oh there's one to say possibly within dala Rama's it's not really an answer okay but be it as a main bottom line is we saw one should try and move away but he brings in OI's 13 the deer shoe that from a rebel Yashiv say it's had the clavracha rebel Yashiv said that if actually from from the shavr al-Lavi who brings from the dasa rebel Yashiv so he says what what about if somebody's davening a little bit louder not too much louder but a little louder to teach their son how to daven okay he'll say well he's teaching the wrong thing he's teaching his son to daven loud now he's trying to train in his son to daven while he's davening something along those lines so the question is should I be answering I mean if I hear such a case like that right the guy's really doing it too for a reason to teach his son so he brings from a rebel Yashiv interesting that if the person that's davening a little drop loud and in conjunction with teaching that his son is child right and it's not really disturbing anybody it's not that loud it's just a if you close by you hear it uh the lea said is to bad was curly he said it's it's hard to say the person's really doing a real ister by raising his voice people don't really hear it it's not disrupting anybody and he's doing it to train his child so he said the vada Yashlan is on main alanese acharov i mean in such a case he wants to say um again from rebel Yashiv shimam espala bakolayna ma free al acharov like also istabagois kolay says rebel Yashiv that vada Yashlan is on the acharov in that case one would be allowed to answer on main so it's an interesting case that could come up um he brings another case which is actually a makholaykus what about if somebody makes him lazy but they didn't wash netil istidaim they didn't wash how could you eat bread without washing okay whatever the case is possibly the person's learning what a person whatever they don't wash it feels a dime what it just made amazi and so you're not allowed to do that you can you can eat bread the person takes bread it's not a question we're about i gave him bread there's a whole child in a locker may allow to give somebody else bread they won't wash that's not the question the guy has his own sandwich he pulls out a sandwich and he starts eating right and he may he doesn't go wash well he's not washing the till sit down but he makes amazi so should i say a broch uh should i say a main to his his amazi he did something he's not allowed to good he made amazi but he did it without washing so it's a makholaykus he brings down the deershoe again all the deershoe in ice 13 but actually not all the eszia de verch amazi because of it he brings from ravishlan mizamen uh the chthadak of rahden and shaashu's the laef chaim version mu to land is amanachri that they want to say taka could be may you care it could answer you would be lante answer why you could be lante answer amae we're talking about just amae and kavishapas pocha is mikazai this is peturmen de taylor right if let's say the person is less than a kazai is so then you don't have to wash all together so there is a case scenario very interesting very interesting question that's what i wanted to just talk about i just how how we work we try and if we come across something let's say in the deershoe here and there even though it's not exactly in the indian like we're in the middle of rahden and it's rika but i try and before we forget about it you know go through those few different chilis that come up so it's a very interesting questions in in our soky of saying amain so he says that this is so someone to say like we said that since there's a uh he could he could eat less than a kazai is you don't enough to wash for less than a kazai is right for less than a kazai is where you wash without a bracha you wash without a bracha whatever the case might be so he says shaamutallani is amanachri she came into shaapas pocha is mikazai is peturmen de taylor officially it's peturmen de taylor you still wash without a bracha then it peturmen de bracha samayi okay so so then he says vinim sashib racha ham ham um hamayi in america's gam alwahila muerta so you know he's eating a small amount so what's wrong with that so he's really part of the femitiles de dine but then he says arctas so dine he wanted to bring in the halychos slimad but then he brings i guess in a different area where her flamizama said no she ain't there but it's not so clear to say that why he was a bi-te lecholoid harby since this guy has a sandwich he has a mind to eat more right and it's also um confirmatrilo lecholoid in the taylor sedan good the feast less than a kazai is maybe we could say he could say on main to his bracha of hamuitzi because it's less than a kazai is just putter from the taylor sedan but the guy is a sandwich we could see from the beginning that he's the guy lecholoid harby he wants to eat his evening full sandwich so he's doing he's doing something he's not allowed to he's making a hamuitzi without washing and making it without washing the taylor sedan right so he's not allowed to do that so how can he make hamuitzi so he says arcta garmatrilo lechol so it could be that you now let us say a main to such a bracha so whatever i'm not we're not going you know halycholoid mice is so much but it's just an interesting question two different ways of looking at it um you know what i would say in such a case if somebody sees somebody doing that uh whatever if you're able to tell them you tell them but it depends not everybody you could tell right as we know um but if you see somebody doing that possibly maybe not to listen to their bracha because it's running into not so posh that you'll let us say a main on that bracha and just one other quick so so that's such a case like that like baddish monaster we say try and move away where you we won't hear the person or not to look at him or he won't won't hear him say if you could tell him tell him you know tell him that what he has to do so now the last case he brings down of uh rachmanulus lemish never happened somebody's an oinane right uh and an oinane as we know is basically what that is uh for till the till uh rachmanulus on somebody's nifter and so the obviously the children the relatives whatever the case is bro the sister these uh mediate relatives right um till the burial of the of the person that they're not there's no mitzvahs because they have to be oisek with the um uh with the mess with the with the nifters so so so you're not they they don't say any bracha but let's say they they make a brah, am I allowed to say a man? I see somebody who's rachmanul sun and aunin, and they make a brah, should I say a man? Vashim, Vashim Meyeh, he says again in all ois number 13, the deershoom rach tes vov, Vashim Meye brah, my aunin shapotamulavarach, he brings from Tresviz, Sheinlanis aunmin aacharab, that you don't answer, I mean Sheinlanis aacharab aunmin, and he brings the vey vey veyam, agamir shlaniz alm, manir shlaniz almiz almiz, aunin, making a brah, when they're not supposed to, so not to answer aunmin, so it's an important point to keep in mind because aunin, aunin, they're not allowed to make a brah, when they eat something, right, till they're finished being an anin, which is when the body's buried and so on, so that's what you're doing, Sheinlanis aacharab aunmin, it's tes vivir shlaniz alm, someone says that we go with that tes viv, not to answer aunmin, and not to answer aunmin, aunmin, aunmin, aunmin, aunmin, aunmin, aunmin, somebody who's in such a state before they bury Rechmanas and father, mother, brother, sister, wife, husband, till they're buried and they make a brah, then one is not allowed to answer, aunmin, tes vivir shlaniz alm, thank you for listening, that's lost in brah, it's good to have heard.