The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
11/25 Hour 1 - Are the Texan's in Trouble?
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It is a Monday edition of The Killer Beast on ESPN 97.5 and ESPN 92.5, and it's a Texan's day after disappointing performance, lose to the lowly titans. Two and eight coming into this game, Will Evans, he's a bomb, he's no good, looked pretty good yesterday, Amy Adams, I'm not even going to call her bad things today, because you can't do that after defeat. You just have to tip your cap, give credit where credit is due, Amy Adams Houston resident comes into Houston wearing an oiler belt buckle, wearing the "Love You Blue" pants, and they punked the Houston Texan yesterday in their own stadium blankers. "Dermi, it was so disgusting to watch, just simply because of the fact that I think everybody had this high-end mighty attitude that we kept discussing in terms of where do we think this team is, and even DJB anime covering the team every day, we're going to win these next three games, we're going to beat the Cowboys, the titans, and the Jags, and then you guys are going to see with nine wins in their back pocket, just exactly what they can be, and I'm like, what if they don't? What if they slip up? And then you look at not only the slip up, but the fact that the way they slipped up was consistent with what you and I have been talking about all season long. It's the same problems that haven't been fixed. It's the same issues that the coaching staff says, we've got a whole of, we're taking care of it, we're working it out at practice, you're really not, and now there's more things to address and talk about and point fingers at than there are to talk about the positives of a defensive front that was devastatingly effective and fantastic for the most part, but overall, everything else was like, what the hell happened there? What was this? What was that? Why did you do that? And when you're at this point in the season and there's more questions than answers, it's beyond frustrating, it'll piss you off in a hurry because you don't have that much time to fix it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, grind and say in their fraud straight up, this is like, it's just a tough one to break down because look, the Texans are seven and five, like they, they haven't been a good football team, and like we can argue the potential and, you know, that they could play with anybody in the NFL and there's certain areas of the team that's really good and I'm not quitting on CJ Stroud long term. Now this year might be too far down the road and there's too many, you know, areas that you need to fix and in terms of being able to fix them by the season's end, but you look at, I mean, there are anomalies that happen over the course of an NFL season. Like if you go back and you look at all these Super Bowl champions in the last 10 years, there's a few games where you're like, oh, okay, what happened in this particular week? What happened in that particular week? So I do believe that like anomalies happened in the NFL. Now, do I believe yesterday's game was an anomaly for the Houston Texans? On one hand, I do like, I feel like, okay, like this is, this is one of the worst games that they play. Tennessee was ready to go. They wanted to win for their owner, win one for the gipper. On one hand, it's like, okay, I can understand that. But on the other hand, it's to your point, like where you have so many questions. There are so many red flags. There are so many holes and you're seven and five. You have five games left to play before you're even in the postseason. Should you still get into the postseason? So it's kind of like time is running out fast in order to fix these mistakes, to fix these huge red flags, to fix these holes and the same red flags in the same holes that we're talking about today, we were talking about in week five, like, like it hasn't seemed like a whole lot of improvement. I was watching juice scrubs in the locker. I think it was Landry Locker that posted it and juice is like, oh, yeah, we just got to be on our P's and Q's. We have to pay attention to detail. We have to execute. We have to be better. Do you think you can do those things? Yeah, we do. Why? Why? Why should we believe that? Based on what we've seen for the last 10 weeks where the issues in week five are still the issues in week 13, like, full me once, shame on you, full me twice, shame on me. I can't believe them anymore. I can't believe them with the whole sense of, yeah, we're going to fix this area. We're going to fix that area. And they've been bad in those areas all year long and they've had two and a half months to fix those areas. Here's the thing too, Jeremy, is the fact that when we started talking about all these things, we were led to believe, like, the boy who cried wolf, they cried wolf by saying, we're fixing it now. We're fixing the penalties in practice. We're fixing the, you know, the, the offensive line issues at practice. Everything is, we're working on it. We're fixing it. It'll be taken care of by next week. Well, okay, we have no choice but to buy in, believe you, and then say, okay, then it will be behind us. We'll be able to see progress and then we'll know at a certain point it's behind us. But now it's almost as bad as it was when it first started in so many different areas that you're going, what the heck did you do in the first place to try and rectify any of this? And that's why when I was on, you know, I made the stand after the Cowboys game, look, I feel like they're closer to being where the Cowboys are than they are to the top of the AFC. It's because we really hadn't seen solid evidence that they had done a bunch of the stuff that they were supposed to have fixed and they really weren't playing to the level of football that everybody kind of anointed them to be expected to play this entire season when we are, you know, we'll constantly look back at who they lost to or who did they beat but how by how much it's like they just aren't stomping teams out like they're supposed to. And now you're losing to teams you're supposed to be and with it, the game within the game is and all those things that we've been harping on all season long seem to be right back where they were when they were almost at their worst. Yes, see, I can live with the losing a game you're supposed to win in the NFL. Like that's going to happen from time to time. It's about the areas where you're weak. It's about where the areas where you're bad. Well, the offensive line got beat like a drum against the Tennessee Titans deep. We knew that was coming. We knew that was coming for two reasons. One, Tennessee's better defensive line than your offensive line. And it's been an issue all year long CJ Stroud, you know, we were trying to like hope that he would get it turned around and he would fix it. The inaccuracies there, the inaccuracies there, the turnovers are there. The sacks are there. That's mostly offensive line, but some of that is on him. The penalties have not only been an issue this year, not only this year, but you go back to last season where they were also an issue. So it's the continuation of the struggles if this if it was like a one off like the Texans are are not a heavily penalized team. The Texans off in the line has been really good. CJ Stroud has been taking care of the football, all of those things. If it was all of those things, the Texans have been doing well up until yesterday. It's easy to live with the one off. Okay, chalk this up to be in the NFL and you're going to lose one or two games in a year where you're not supposed to lose one or two games in a year. I can live with that. But to me was more how you lost it. The context of how you lost it mattered more to me than actually losing the game. And I'm closer to your side on things now to about like, you know, being close to the Cowboys. The Cowboys did be Washington yesterday, like they got themselves a pretty good win, but yeah, it just doesn't feel like the Houston Texans are in the conversation with the better teams in the AFC. And I think the AFC teams are flawed, quite frankly. I mean, the Chiefs barely beat Carolina and that was a road game cross country, all of that. But the Chiefs look flawed. The Ravens look flawed. I don't think the AFCs like as dominant as we thought they would be, which leads to more of the frustration, because maybe the AFCs get a bull this year. And when the AFCs get a bull this year, it doesn't seem like you're going to be the one getting it. Here's the other thing too, is the fact that when we were talking about it, we're talking about position groups. We're talking about areas of weakness. We're talking about breakdowns. But the one thing that continues to be a big topic of discussion is the fact that you had a Tennessee team, like you squashed a New England team, you were supposed to beat early in the season. That's what you're supposed to do. But you didn't do that. On top of that, you got out scheme by a team that had two wins coming in that looked like they weren't even close to being in the same zip code as you. And they shouldn't be. But again, the woes continue with the second half struggles, the lack of production, the lack of yardage, the lack of adjustments, the fact that you're looking at it and going, well, Tennessee basically said, we're going to own your offensive line. We're going to drop our linebackers back and coverage a little bit in more of a zone. We're going to be able to cover misdirections on the other side of the football. We dare you to do anything to make us change our philosophy. They didn't do it. They had their way. Will Levis, we knew in the last couple of weeks, was getting the ball out of his hands quicker. He wasn't hanging out. They were trying to prevent him hanging on it, basically turning games over and costing games to the other team all by himself. For the most part, they were able to do whatever they wanted to do because as good as your pass rush was, your secondary wasn't as good as we thought that they were supposed to be in headband. It's like you look at it go, where are you scheming? Where are you adjusting? Why is the second half still an issue? From an offensive line perspective, we've been talking about the fact the only reason why you know Strasser's name is the fact that because the offensive line is sucked and we wanted to know who was coaching them. Now you're wondering even more, are they working on any of these things? You see blatant lack of communication, blatant lack of coverage. It looks like you hear their practicing all week and you're going, but what are they really practicing? Yeah, that's why I'm tired of hearing that. I'm not a big press conference, locker room sound, like if there's something entertaining that we're going to play it, but I'm tired of hearing 10 weeks in a row, "Oh yeah, that's an area of concern, but we're going to get better. That's an area of concern, but we're going to get better." And I understand they're not going to say anything different, but I'm just not going to believe it either because I haven't seen them getting better. 713-780-ESPN, so the word that I best used to describe this game to me is embarrassing. I think it was an embarrassing performance for a variety of different reasons. And as I was rewatching the game earlier, I just took notes on all of the areas that were embarrassing. And I think I could have put together a thesis on why the Houston Texans got embarrassed by the Tennessee Oilers yesterday. You know the Titans gifted the Texans like 16 to 20 points? Like they gifted them 16 to 20 points and they still lost the football game. I know it was a five point margin of victory for Tennessee, it was really a three point game because the safety wouldn't have happened if the game's tied or you're leading. So the Titans gifted the Texans 16 or 20 points. The very first play of the game yesterday, Damian Pierce, huge kickoff return. The Texans had a one play touchdown drive, a one play touchdown drive. So like you can make the case that the Texans were gifted seven points there, if not seven at least three because oh, you start to give the Texans credit for scoring the touchdown. Okay, fine. So that's either three or seven points. However, you want to see that the Titans fumbled the football and Phil goal range. They fumbled it in Phil goal range for the for the for the Titans. They would have had an easy three points there. There's another gifted three points. Will Levis, you know, bless his heart and he played pretty well yesterday. He was the best quarterback on the field yesterday has the highest quarterback ranking of that draft class in the last couple of months of the NFL season. He threw you a pick six, so seven more points gifted to the Houston Texans. And yeah, he was in the right spot, right time, you have to give him credit, all that, whatever, gifted seven points, then the Titans muffed a punt and deepened their own territory that gifted you another three points. You were gifted either 16 or 20 points, whatever you want to look at that first series, and you lost the football game. How do you lose a football game where you're gifted 16 to 20 points? It makes no sense and taking a step further. They had two forced bumbles. They had eight sacks. We go back to the Detroit game and say you're not supposed to lose a game when you force the other team into five interceptions. When you continually do the things that they're doing to put yourself in an advantageous position to win games and teams aren't supposed to lose those games, you are reinventing ways to lose said games and make yourself look worse to and insult injury is a couple of those were on national TV, you looked less than stellar, you don't, you're just completely peeing down your leg every opportunity you get. But yet we're supposed to believe this is one of the better teams in the AFC and one of the better teams in football. And that's where at a certain point you got to cry fools gold and go schedule be damned and injuries be damned. The fact is, is that we're hearing a whole lot of, oh, we got this and we're fine and the players saying, you know, we know who we are and no one wants, you know, the, the were a team that could be to be reckoned with. But yet when we see the performance on the field, we're like, well, you don't, you're not playing like what you're saying because that looks terrible compared to how you want us to believe that this is a upper echelon football team. And you're finding ways to lose when the script says you shouldn't be in the stratosphere of losing those games. Yeah, I was trying to figure out how many teams in the NFL have lost a game in which they had eight sacks and I couldn't, I couldn't find it. But I bet you it's not many. I would think you're right and to force the league. Yeah. I mean, it's the, and they, they handed you 16 to 20 Titans tried to tighten that game. Love is tried to love is that game as good as Levis played. He tried to give you that game. He gave you the lead when things were looking bad. The Titans gave you either 16 or 20 points. They, they, you sacked him eight times. Force to bump. You lost the game. You lost the game. Only Jeremy when you basically C J gifted them the opportunity to almost solidify the game. They gave it right back to you to erase that pick and said, Hey, we'll one up you so that you still could be in the driver's seat and you still found a way to lose. Yeah. It's a, it was embarrassing. Best word that I could use to describe it. I have a bunch of other reasons why it was embarrassing in yesterday's game. Why do you think it was embarrassing? 713-780-ESP and busy show, we'll talk a lot about the Texans. What do you believe after the college football weekend, Melbag Monday, we got to dive in on where CJ Stroud is at in a sophomore season and the Astros also lost, you say, Kakuchi to a division rival, 713-780-3776, the HRP listener line. We're on the Twitch Twitch.tv/espn97-5. We're on YouTube at ESP in Houston. Also on Twitter at ESP and 975, blinkers at Pac-Man Joel on Twitter. I'm a Jeremy Brandon. You are the beast, ESP and 975, ESP and 925. You listening to The Killer Bees with Joel Blank and Jeremy Branham. On ESP and 975 and 925. Broadcasting live from the Veritex Community Bank Studios. Good snap, good boy, the kick is not good, oh my! Bear Baron can't believe it with 153 to play. Here in the fourth quarter we just talked about him being in the record books on 50 yarders and he missed a 28 yard. Embarrassing for the Houston Texans, 713-780-ESP and I got a bunch of reasons why yesterday was an embarrassing loss. What are yours? 713-780-3776. Let's go out to the HRP listener line Christian, you're in the hive with the bees, what's your question? Hey guys, thank you for taking the call. So yeah, it's a stream there, it's just the whole game expected us to kind of be on a rebound from the Lions Mid-South and we had a decent or from above decent game because the Cowboys and this was supposed to be another one of those did right games to kind of, you know, encourage the projection towards being positive and then I feel like it's just watched a lot of things and whatever you were, wherever you were like at the low point we kind of hit for other especially since we were at home. There's no excuses for it, there's no excuses for the missouts, some of the girls were bad and I feel like I know they said CJ got hurt, I'm not sure how injured he is but I think he didn't see any goals and then the defense although they had a sex but there's no point in getting too sick and then giving up a 40 yard pass or 80 yard touchdown, the next throw. So yeah, there in Harrison was not a good Sunday and I also want to say Jeremy, so every time I forget how much you were kind of pushing real limits, you kind of make a point to kind of pleasing back in by saying he was the best QB from their draft class on Sunday. So if you want to throw me out there, that's the seed that you haven't given up on real that shit, I mean, I appreciate Christian and look, I've changed my mind. I think CJ stradds a better talent than Will Levis and I thought that Levis was the best prospect based on tools coming out of the draft. Now he's got some serious holes to his game, which is why he struggled and I think it's part of the reason he's taking eight sacks, like they were bashing him on the broadcast yesterday for taking all those sacks. I think that's part of his development actually because he has a very bad habit of drifting in the pocket and drifting and drifting and drifting further and further away. And I think they're trying to coach that out of them and part of coaching that out of them is taking a good amount of sacks because you're never going to drift backwards. And they're also trying to eliminate turnovers. So he's willing to err on the side of taking a sack versus to be intercepted. I'm still not I'm not going to put Levis ahead of Stroud after a year and a half of games, a little over a half in games, but he is he is starting to show the potential that I saw in him. I mean, he way better game than Stroud yesterday. He's got a cannon for an arm. He's a very good athlete. Yeah, he's got some he's got a lot of positives to his toolbox. I think he's also got some negatives. I think that the one thing that a lot of fans forget is the fact that when you're when you're drafting guys, especially the quarterback position, and especially with the the guys are coming out earlier and earlier, is that there's a there's a maturation process that goes with it. You can't just close the door because they don't get off on the right foot all the time. Sand Arnold's a perfect example that not that he's going to have longevity doing what he's done for Minnesota. What's that? Yeah. Josh Allen. Yeah. I mean, look, yeah, you're right. There's been, you know, there's been several examples where they don't get off on the right foot right away, but it's almost the Alex Braggman effective. You might start over 25 to start your career, but that doesn't mean your career is over with. And the fact that when you say, like you said, Josh Allen, when Sam Darnell has shown that when he gets solid, reliable, steady coaching and his OC and his coach haven't changed and they get that they just are able to tap into the talent. Like you said, if you got a guy like Levis that's got a big arm can use his legs as athletic. And maybe he was in the wrong system and he was immature enough to think that he could still try and do it all like he was trying to do it at Kentucky that it might take some time. But if you give them time, you can see that you can still resurrect and find a career of a better than average quarterback. If he has all the the arm talent and the skill set that he has, and he just has a system built around him to kind of keep him in between the lines, he can he can win football games with that much talent, especially if he has talent around him. And I think that that's still got a long way to go. I understand that, but I'm saying it, you know, like this year's draft class is the perfect example. Everybody said, well, Caleb Williams was drafted number one overall. He's the best quarterback head and shoulders above the rest of them. Right now you can make an argument for several of the other guys, Jane Daniels, until the last three weeks has been fantastic. But Drake May, bow nicks, they've all shown signs that they are fully capable of being able to, you know, grow mature and get better to be good talent in the NFL, if not better than that. So you can sit there and say, you know, because of where you're drafted, you know, that there's a certain stigma that says, well, you're only this or you're only that. Will Levis might turn out to be a steal from where he was taken if just if a team takes the time and is patient enough to kind of get through the growing pains and understand he can get it and he can move a football team. He showed it yesterday. Yeah, he's, he still got a ways to go. I think the hiring of Callahan was really good for helmet offensive mind that did a lot of good things with Joe burrow and Cincinnati. I think it was part of the reason they moved on from rebel is because rebel really good head coach, but how much is he developing a quarterback? I think that that's kind of tough to do for a defensive minded coach. Um, but yeah, I mean, he was, he was solid yesterday. Now he's, he's still not guaranteed a starting spot in the NFL next year. So I'm not, I'm not, you know, celebrating a win here by any stretch of the imagination. Uh, seven one three seven eight zero ESPN. Let's go back out to the HR and Pete listener line. Javier, you're in the hive with the bees. What's up? Javier. Guys, totally agree with you. Uh, that was a ridiculous loss. Um, I got a whole list of things to unpack with y'all. So first, I mean, y'all heard me before here, um, in the draft, I got to say in the first round and also being a second round, we really need to get some tackles. We need to get some of these big boys, six foot, six, six foot, five, 300 plus pounds to really protect our number one S and C J cause this season he has had to stop more slow because he has rattled. You can see it. He's trying to throw pass as they should not be thrown in there. And because I think he's just rushing because he has nothing protection that he had last year with a mediocre line compared to what we have this year. Second, Bobby Slowick, I was the biggest fan last year. This year, I'm kind of starting to doubt because he continues to call the same plays that aren't working and lastly, I got to say, I'm done with Fair Baron because he can make 50 yarders easy, but when the chips are really are really up against the wall and he needs to make the, the, the, the really important field goals, he shanks it every time twice against the lines. And now this one to, to completely blow the game for us. I'm done with him and him, then him, then him throwing a history fit like he's a little kid throwing himself on the ground, take it from here guys. Thanks. Appreciate the comment. Look, I think that the Fair Baron, I, I can't look and I've been critical just because of what they've paid him in the past. Thanks to Bill O'Brien, but Fair Baron has been the clear cut sign of a guy that's saving your bacon to some degree with an offense that can't score touchdowns to the level they're supposed to be scoring them is a guy that breaks the record for 50 plus yard field goals in a season. It shows that you're basically getting bailed out by a kicker that's nails making a less, you know, a lesser percentage kick that takes a big leg with accuracy. Yeah. It's going to happen. It sucks that it happened when it did, but it's more so an indication of a team that was living on the edge that was letting a team like that stay so close and do the kind of things that they were doing that any little mistake could be the one that costs you and doesn't allow you to be able to come back from that. And that kick in a microcosm was an example of that. You just kept giving them too many opportunities to stay in or lead the ball game. And that meant you had to be perfect. And when you weren't, it cost you a chance to win the football game and that sucks. But that's also kind of the way they've been living on the edge all season long. And to his point about going and getting tackles, I get it. But at the same time, they've invested so much capital already in this offensive line with the where guys were drafted, the money that was spent, the extensions that were given to the point that now you want to start over and you want to put it in the hands of a general manager that used the first round pick on a guard that's been more like a sixth round bust the way he's played with the exception of the fact that he can run block a little bit. So there's a lot to unpack here and no one is free from blame in the crosshairs. And there's plenty to look at because there's plenty of shortcomings from top to bottom. Yeah. I mean, I think he's I'm not done with Fair Baron, but I think that Javier brings up good points in the sense that he is a little bit erratic. He does miss a lot of Phillips. He's tied for second in the NFL and Phil goals missed this year. He's behind young hoku. The only one who has seven misses, Fair Baron is in a tie with several guys with six now to be fair to Fair Baron, huh? He does lead the league in Phil goals attempted. So if you lead the league in Phil goals attempted, you have more chances to miss Phil goals. It's like the old, well, Rex happened more often, whatever your five miles within your house. Well, you're always within five miles of your house. So it's the same thing with Fair Baron. The volume on his attempts are high, which is going to lead to his Phil goal misses going high, but he's not, you know, the most accurate kicker in the NFL this year. He had been in the previous three years now. I don't I've lived enough of Madam and Dola to be cutting kind of Fair Baron in the middle of the year. That's probably more of an off season conversation, but I'm okay with Fair Baron overall. I do agree that he's a little erratic and it was kind of ironic that in a game where he sets the record already in the most Phil goals made a 50 year longer in the NFL in a single season in history that he misses a chip shot that could have tied the game. So it's certainly frustrated there. I'm on your side with the, the offensive lineman. I don't think I think Nick Casario has a little bit of a blind spot drafting offensive lineman or at least offensive lineman that fit his scheme or maybe it's a Chris trouser problem. Maybe it's all of the above. But if you look at the offensive lineman that that Nick Casario has drafted, you mentioned Kenyon green drafted, not only like we blame Casario a lot for trading down when Kyle Hamilton was on the board. I go look at the offensive lineman that were drafted after Kenyon green, like there's three other offensive linemen drafted pretty soon after Kenyon green in the first round that are very, very good drafted Blake Fisher in the second, which, you know, maybe that's a pick for the future, but it's a second rounder. You think a second rounder could be starting in the NFL. I don't think the Casario's track record drafting offensive lineman early is very, very good. So I'm really not in favor of drafting offensive lineman. I think that's something that you have to fix and free agent. Jeremy on that note, when you had to bow out early Friday and DJ was on DJ dropped a little nugget that I wasn't expecting, but he had talked to two different guys in the NFL that said that juice scrubs was not a second round pick. Oh, yeah, that was no one he was drafted. And he was saying that the two got his two sources in context were saying like they should have been flip flop that Patterson was a guy that had more talent, but that scrubs would have been available possibly in the fifth and six rounds because of the fact that no one was as high on him as the Texans. That's a huge red flag because you add that to Kenyon Green and say Patterson saved bailed you out to some degree because you've got a sixth round pick that's playing like more like a second round pick and a second round pick that couldn't play dead. That's that's a problem with the evaluation. I mean, it's about it's a problem with the juice part of it. It would be a win for the can you green? Part of it. Yeah, but it's also a problem with the Kenyan green evaluation. I mean, I don't think Patterson was a second rounder. If Patterson's being drafted in the sixth round by an NFL team that's telling me 31 other NFL teams don't view him as a second rounder. I think that's a bit of a stretch of a comment. Now it was a win. It was a win as a draft pick in the sixth rounder, but every single team is passing them up five different times and we're going to say you should have had a second round grade. That's a bit of a win for me. More like he's playing like it now, like, you know, yeah, I think it's even then I think that Patterson's solid. I'm not sure that Patterson is a talk about a guy that can play multiple positions in a fellow center. Yeah, he's good. He got to have on the roster. I don't know if you want him being on your your every day center. Well whether he's a center or a guard, the fact that he brings versatility and ability to the point where he's not getting his doors blown off and doing the kind of things that you're seeing with the majority of the rest of your linemen that, you know, that he has been steady, if not better than that, whereas the guys that you spend a lot of draft capital on or spend a lot of money on just seem to be completely out of their element. And like you said, you know, we've mentioned the fact that whether it's Strauser or not, something has to change, something has to get better and something has to to really click with these guys to say, you know, I was watching the game and I had said if you could have had a checklist and put everybody that it's an offensive lineman on the checklist and said, let's just see, you know, if one of these guys does something negative in about a four minute stretch, I think it was like late first half second half to where you could go, well, there's tonsil, he's got he's got a penalty and well, there's a sack given up by, you know, you know, by scrubs, sack given up, Shaq didn't get over to, he missed a block, gave up a sack, penalty on on Patterson, everybody, Howard got his doors blown off. You're like, this is a line that has been so highly invested in and is playing so below their, their, their abilities and expectations that it's the crux of just about everything they can't do offensively. Yeah, it's insane. Like it's, it's, it's, it's an, it's inexcusable considering what you've invested in this offensive line. And I'm with you, like Patterson's not the point of blame when you look at the struggles in this offensive line. This is more of like a going forward in the future conversation with Patterson is Jared Patterson, you're starting center next year. And are you comfortable with that? If I'm trying to really improve the offensive line, I wouldn't be too thrilled if Jared Patterson was starting on your offensive line. Is he really nice to have as a swing interior offensive lineman backing all three of those positions up? Yes, absolutely. I'm not saying you shouldn't be on the 53. I'm saying I don't love him being the starting five. Now I think he's more valuable than juice, which again goes back to your point six round or more valuable than second rounder. I think he's more valuable than Shaq Mason this year. So going forward, do I want to be my starting center? I probably we know see and this is where I'm at. You're paying very little for a sixth round pick that has the first versatility to hold his own at two different positions. So regardless that he's a valuable member of this offensive line. But if you look at what the chiefs did in past years when their offensive line was just horribly ineffective and underachieving, you look at what the Ravens have done when they've had to rebuild their line several times. It is possible to go out and rebuild this line in the off season. But you just are going to have to swallow a lot of pride in coming to the realization that you shouldn't have given contracts and or drafted some of the guys where you did or made the trade to get Shaq because of the fact that you don't know when they're going to fall off. But unfortunately it seems like either they have fallen off or in the case of like a Titus Howard, he's never going to live up to that contract or a Laramie Tunsel that at a certain point, whether it's his want to or whatever, he may think he's one of the top five left tackles still in this game, but he certainly isn't putting forth the effort and putting on tape. Anything close to that? Yeah, I would disagree on the Laramie part. I think that Tunsel's ROI has been about of a top five tackle in football. I think that Laramie Tunsel was nowhere near the bigger issues of this offensive line. I think Titus Howard's played well, but I think Howard's been negative versus his contract that his return on investment has been below the contract value. I think he's been your second best offensive lineman, but below the contract value, both things are true. Shaq Mason was worth the trade to me. He gave him nothing for Shaq Mason. He gave him nothing for starting the card and he was good. He was good last year. Now maybe the extensions the issue because he hasn't been very good this year. Texts are saying the offensive line, mostly the same this last year as this year would change. It's actually it was actually not the same. They had tons of injuries and had bunches of moving parts last year, yet the offensive line was better last year somehow, 8, 8, 0, 7, only three kickers have missed a field goal under 30 yards. Fairburn is the only kicker to miss multiple under 30 yards. That's I didn't know that nugget. Thank you for that texture. That is not a good stat for guy. You're a fair bear. All right. 7, 1, 3, 7, 8, 0, ESPN. I have tons more of why this loss was embarrassing. Why was it embarrassing to you? 7, 1, 3, 7, 8, 0, ESPN, it is the bees on ESPN 97 5 and ESPN 92 5. Hey, before we go to the break, a word for Stella Rosa wines. Look at the holiday season. It's sports season. It's football season. Everything's going on over the course of the next week or so. You're probably going to be entertaining. You're either going to somebody's house or having people over the years. And the one thing you want to do is to make sure that they have everything to choose from both food and beverage wise as you're getting ready to watch games and enjoy family time. I suggest you get a couple of bottles of Stella Rosa wine because they are served chilled and they go with just about anything you're serving because they have so many different flavors to choose from. 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First point is the loss wasn't embarrassed in me because I don't know if I got this to you or Jeremy and Joe but it was no prime time. I've seen this team lose to the Alana Falcons, the Jets twice in the goal of a second of campus and it is what it is. I like what the new award said on 16 yesterday that it seems like they just played down to a competition. Wasn't it better for me? Kind of expected which leads me to my next point, man. Assessment blame. We're trying to go with blame. Is it flowy? Is it Demico? Is it CJ? I think it's all of them and I also think it's the OC line but I also think it's the fans. I think it's the fans in the media afraid to say any damn thing about Demico or Demico or CJ, quite Jesus, they afraid to say anything about him, man. Everyone when they talk about him, they got a preface. I really like Demico. I really like CJ but now, man, else all of that, else all of that. Go do a messed up too. You to cap another ship, Demico, you to cap another ship and CJ, I don't care how much you go out there and I'm a guard for you and a band. I don't care how much you go out there and talk about your Lord and Savior and all of that stuff. I don't care about all of that, man, on Sunday, I'm in a whole different mode. You need to pull it back down, son. Oh, boy. This is record. I thought you said you didn't care. I thought you said it wasn't embarrassing. It sounds like you thought it was embarrassing based on this diet. No, no, no, no. It's really not embarrassing because I'm figuring it gets my main point. This year's record, what we've seen in this year, I think that the Texans are a manifestation of their own, well, let me bring that back. I think what they're doing this year is what was supposed to happen last year but they did it in reverse. This year gave us all this both hope that we were like one, two, three, three players away or something like that and people don't really want to say it. We had a weekend schedule last year. We had a weekend schedule last year, and it just happened to work out for us. It played up to us but I think that this year, the way this year's looking was the way last year was supposed to look. That's all I have, fellas. Go texting. Appreciate it, Lamont. I hate to say this, but I've been preaching a lot of this over the last several months about the fact that the entire clock was sped up by the fact that they played as well as they did a year ago when we didn't expect it. That means that the bar was raised. That means that expectations were higher. That means that fans were going to start getting a little bit more Kool-Aid in their system, the blue Kool-Aid of believing that this team was going to be sooner rather than later, a contender. We had said, "Look, and I think that we were probably as honest as any show in this city about saying, 'Hey, look, maybe they take a half step back this year, maybe because of the schedule, maybe because of the fact that there's so many different factors that are in play here. Maybe they only win nine games or ten games this year." That doesn't mean in another year or so that they're going to take another step forward or more, but when you look at that, you have to also realize to his point that I think I disagree with is the fact that you may see them as a local game on noon. I don't really know the relevance of that as much as to say, "We've seen this team week in, week out, but we also know when you play Tennessee, the same way that Amy Adams skunk wore her Oilers belt buckle and got the game ball. It matters." We want to say, "Well, there's nothing extra for the players. There's nothing extra for motivation." But there are also a piss poor football team. When you look at it, and the fact is that your team is less than, and there is a built-in rivalry that goes with it, there is a lot more at stake, and you're supposed to hammer a team like that. When you don't, and then you actually lose the game, that is more problematic, and because of the expectations, and because of where everybody saw this team, it's an awful look and it's a really tough situation to try and dig yourself out of it at this point in the season. I don't know why we run away from expectation, though. It sounds like a defeatist mentality. I kind of hate it. It's like, "Well, the fans shouldn't have thought the Texans were going to beat it." Why? Why? What does that serve? What purpose does that serve? I like expectation, because when you meet expectation, it feels good. You want them to hit the expectation you have, so I'm not a big fan of the, "Oh, the fans are the issue. They shouldn't have expected the Texans to win 10 games and to reach the conference championship." What do you want them to do? Let's go 9 and 8 and just be this pedestrian football team. That's boring. That's not fun. To me, it's defeatist, so I'm not a huge fan of that. The fan base shouldn't be excited about the season. Yeah, they're fans. They shouldn't be excited about the season. They should have hope. This is what's fun. This is what's fun about sports is to have the passion, whether it's joy, whether it's anger, whether it's frustration, whether it's embarrassment. I don't love the whole, "The fans are to blame," because of the expectation. No, no. This team's not very good for a variety of different reasons. Are they well coached? You know, Lamont brings up the Demico Ryan's point of view. I think that's a fair take. Play calling, an issue. Shroud has taken a step back. Offensive line is bad, but the fans hoping and expecting their team to be good, I find that to be a little bit silly. Here are some more of the embarrassing reasons, embarrassing reasons that I have why this was such an embarrassment yesterday. And this points to Demico, quite frankly. This points to Demico as the head of the snake. Demico is the head coach. He is the leader of this football team. He is the face that runs the place at NRG Stadium. This team is undisciplined, and you see signs of a poorly coached, maybe unprepared football team. And Demico's set up at the podium like, "Yeah, this is a lot. This law is on me. I didn't have him prepared." Like, that's what he's going to say. The very best head coaches are going to say that same thing. So I'm not going to use that quote as this piece of evidence that they're a poorly coached team. They're going to have two examples in the game. The Texans had 11 penalties for 81 yards yesterday. And this isn't the first time. Like, if it's a one off, okay. It's a crew that throws a bunch of flags, okay. This is a consistent issue with the Houston Texans for two years running. That is the side of an undisciplined team. And when you're a head coach that has an undisciplined team, that points back to the head coach. Aziz Alshire, he hit Tony Pollard when he was two steps out of bounds. Undisciplined football team. Fourth and one. This was in the third quarter. You had a fourth and one, your own 39. Remember you had that moment. Are they going to go for it? Are they going to punt the football here? There's eight minutes left in the third quarter, you're down, which, what would you have done in that moment? Fourth and one, own 39, eight minutes left to play in the third quarter, you're down by six points. What would you have done? I'm probably punny. Same. I'm with you there. I'm punting in that situation. Here was Demico Ryan's whenever he was asked about, because remember they took a delay a game. Like I'm punting there. I can live, I can live going for it there, quite frankly. I rather punt than go, but if you want to like be aggressive and go for it there, okay. All right, cowboy, I see the aggression here. I don't hate the idea, but what's the one thing you can't do? You can't be indecisive and take a delay of game. That's the sign of a poorly coached team. You know what really good coaches do ahead of that third down play? They're thinking in their mind. Okay. They're going to punt. That's what they're doing. Demico Ryan's got into a spot where he didn't know what to do and he took a delay of game and then he got defensive whenever he was asked about a postgame. Here's what Demico had to say when he was asked about the go for it or punt situation. Nothing happened. I decided to punt a football. All right. Okay. That's fine. Demico punt the football then, but don't take a delay of game first. That's the signs of a poorly coached team. Jeremy, you're not wrong. I mean, look, when you think about what we've been harping on all season long, the penalties, the fact that you're one of the top three most penalized and the graph, I think it's changed enough that the graphic, they did enough to try and regain the top spot with the fact that the graphic showed they were one of the top three teams in the league for most penalties and then you go double digits yet again and say, hey, that's our crown to keep if we can do so because it was just another embarrassing act where we've been told, oh, we're cleaning this up. We're cleaning that up. It's a defensive lineup. It's a mentality across the board. It's not just the offensive line and the pre snap penalties and the movements. It's the fact that, like you said, that you're undisciplined in the fact that you're hitting guys out of bounds, like you're make you don't look, look from a special team's perspective. One of the things you didn't mention is the fact that on the kickoff that Dari didn't realize or. I'm in there. Okay. I'm just saying. That's another one where disciplined coaching staff cover every detail to a tee to make sure that everything is is taken care of. So those kind of mistakes don't happen. We've done this all season long with the top to the from the coaching staff to is anybody disciplining these players is anybody keeping their the coaching staff accountable is anybody doing anything to make sure that the problems aren't going to linger from week to week and get worse. Not better. It doesn't seem so. I mean, who's holding the coaching accountable though? Like Demico is going to hold his coaches accountable. That's what I mean holding Demico account. So like that's slow. It needs the whole coach, you know, all his coaches accountable and Demico needs the whole slow accountable and it can't be just be how do we know that's not happening though. Like when you read some of the comments kind of, uh, there's answers just comments and right. You don't know from who covers the team to who knows better than most about whether Demico's turned it all over to slow or not. But the bottom line is is that no one is above this coaching staff, no matter what their pay scale is to where everyone should be able to be called into the office and talk to in terms of, Hey, we are not doing this. Hey, this isn't part of our mentality. Hey, you're costing us games, possessions, scores, other things. You have as a football team with continuity. That shouldn't be where you take it so personal that you can't have those conversations. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. Here's some, some of the other things to where like, to me, undisciplined signs of a poorly coached team that a conquo touchdown, Toa Toa bites on the play action, which is, he has a habit of doing this. Eric Murray makes a poor effort on the tackle, which okay, like that happens from time to time, especially whenever you have like kind of an average and best player. Kaitlyn Bullock quit on the play because he thought Eric Murray was going to make the tackle. If you go back and watch that play, watch not even hustling to the spot because he felt like Eric Murray's going to pay the tackle. No, you know what good coach football teams do? Everybody flies to the ball. Sometimes the Texans do the illegal shift penalty is P we level football that and I don't know if that, I mean, it's not obviously run out to make go because he's not over the offense. Probably not even on Bobby Sloake. It was probably something that was said in the huddle. It's either on CJ, CJ put it on himself today. But do you believe that? Like I like that's, that's what a quarterback does right whenever a quarter, whenever you have a mistake with the offense, the quarterback's going to be like, it's on me, like what happens when a guy runs a wrong route, you throw an interception, the quarterback says that's on me. I understand that he said at the press conference and said that's on me, but do we really know that's on me? Like what they say at the press conference is to, is to keep the morale of the team to not throw his teammates under the bus. I think a good quarterback takes blame even whenever there is not, you're not wrong for the quarterback. But he also gave the detail of saying in the huddle, you know, I get here's what he had to say. Let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Here was CJ shout out after the game yesterday about that illegal shift penalty. We have a quick motion with tank and you know, it's miscommunication on my part in the huddle. And you know, two motions at the same time, that play kind of maybe seals the deal. You go down the one or I don't know if Nico scored, I'll, I'll stop paying attention. All right. So, yes, he took the blame. Do I really think he was the reason for the blame? I don't know. I don't, I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm not saying that CJ's wrong. I don't know. I don't know what was said in that huddle. I don't know if CJ Stroud told them both to be in motion. I don't know if Joe Mixon heard it wrong and he went rogue, like I don't know. But that's pee-wee level football. That should not have, whether it's CJ's fault, whether it's Joe Mixon's fault, two guys illegally shifting at the same time is pee-wee level football and the signs of an undisciplined poorly coached football team. That you cost yourself a touchdown there literally. There were two touchdowns taken off the board by penalties. You look at that and say, well, that, you know, that those things are going to happen. Not what the fact that the place turned out in scores that would have, would have could have and should have been the difference in the football game. Those make the impact even that much greater than what it already is by your, your point of them not being disciplined and them not being able to correct and rectify problems that we've seen and witnessed all season long. This isn't the first time that we've had big plays erased by stupid penalties. You saw it in the Dallas game on the first play of the game. It cost you a touchdown. These things have been happening all season long and nothing is being done. And I understand that, look, I'm not sitting here trying to tell you that D'Amico Ryan's is free from blame. What I'm telling you is, stop with the whole fire, fire, D'Amico cut fair bearing. That's just reaction in the moment and that's stupidity. But the fact is, is that everyone, like I said, needs to be put in the crosshairs. And that includes D'Amico to say, we don't need the coach speak of that's on me. Because at a certain point, it really is. But then it's not just about owning it. It's what are you doing to rectify it? Because we've heard all season long, you're right. DJ does it and D'Amico does it, Bobby, slow it does it. But behind the scenes, which we don't know, and at practice when we're being told they're working on it in all these different ways that we're being told the coach speak, is anything really being done? Because what we see is what's on tape and what we see live. And what that tells us is nothing has changed. Yeah, it's in the, it's, it's been bad. Nothing has changed. Another sign of a poorly coached team, right? Right. We're in areas that you're struggling with. Here are the special team's mistakes and I was hammered through these really quick too. Another sign of a undisciplined poorly coached team. The Titans first field goal. The Texans were running their 11th man on the field late. Good coaching teams don't have that happen. Daray. And look, maybe this was on Daray not the coaching staff, but again, undisciplined what's going on here. Daray let the ball rest in the end zone, which is a live football with the new kickoff rule. Daray was about a half step away from the Titans getting a touchdown off a kickoff. What is happening? Undisciplined. Damien Pierce's second return to the game after he busted out the first one on his, on the first one. His second one got you close to midfield. What happened there? Holding penalty negated the big return. Start your drive deep in your own territory. How about Daray making a diving catch on a kickoff at the five yard line? What are you doing? 522 left to play in the game down by three Titans punt the football. Robert Woods dives in the ball at the Titan 39. Good play by Robert Woods. Save some field position there. What happened? Holding penalty. The drive starts at the 49 instead. And in the last possession, we spent a lot of time talking about CJ Stroud. We will spend a lot of time talking about CJ Stroud going Dan Orlowski and stepping out of the back of the end zone. You remember what happened on that punt. You would have added at the 26 yard line with a minute 29, but you have another penalty and you start the ball, you start with the ball at the seven yard line. It cost you 19 yards in the most critical possession of the game. That's where that possession was lost was on special teams. No question. Poorly coached undisciplined football team. No question about it. And you know, everybody's going to say, well, the missed field goal, the missed field goal, those things are going to happen. I mean, it was ironic that you have an ex kicker, Jay Feely that basically told you, you just hammer it right through the center of the uprights at that point. Don't get cute. Don't try and, you know, put some touch on it and it looked like he did, but the snap was good. The hold was good. It's flat missed it, but when, but that's just the one thing that everybody's going to focus on because it was costly, but all those other things are costly too, because that's the one thing. The last one you mentioned was the one that I was focused on the most, especially when watching it again. It's fine if you're starting at the 25, because all you need is a field goal try again. And I, you feel like with one time out and a minute and a half, you're fine. When you get pushed back to the seven yard line inside your own 10 and then you proceed to go backwards, that's a massive problem that you can't overcome. That's the problem that costs you the game yet again. We're talking about these penalties because we've seen it before, but when you talk about the ramifications of the penalties, costing you points, costing you touchdown, costing you the game because you're so far pinned back that you literally have no chance and you end up getting a safety on the last play, because you know, it's just flat desperation mode and a hope and a Hershey bar hoping that you can get, you know, a third convert a third in 20 yards. Those are the problems because of the, not just because of the fact that they keep happening, but on every single, almost every single one of them, we can sit there and tell you the ramification was you blew two touchdowns, you blew field possession, you blew this, you blew that, that's when you look back and go, oh no, that's discipline and that's costing you games. Yeah. It was, to me, that was the underrated play of the game was here's your ball at the 25 CJ go, you know, make some amends for the errors of your ways. Nope. Holding penalty back to back punch. Here you go, start at the seven yard line against a really good defensive line, undisciplined, poorly coached, the signs to me are there. DeMico Ryan's is getting a lot of grief for what he said about the offense, scored enough points to win yesterday. The defense need to be better. It's catching a lot of heat. Is that fair? Is it, is it unjustified? 713-780-ESP and it's the bees on ESPN 97-5 and ESPN 92-5. ESPN 97-5. For child's first step is a big step towards their future. With first step by college invest, every Colorado child born or adopted on or after January 1st, 2020 will receive a free $115 contribution to their college invest college savings account. Plus, we'll match a percentage of your contributions in the coming years helping you save even more. Enroll today and start your child off on the right foot. Is it ColoradoFirstStep.org to get started and claim your $115 now? 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