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RFK Assassination: A Conspiracy Inference of CIA Involvement (#269, 2 Dec. 2024)

Summary

In this episode, Rockne Cole delves into the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, exploring whether it was the act of a lone gunman, Sirhan Sirhan, or if a larger conspiracy was at play. He discusses the distinction between conspiracy theories and conspiracy inferences, presenting evidence that suggests CIA involvement in the assassination. The conversation covers the events of June 5, 1968, the role of Sirhan Sirhan, connections to CIA operatives, and the implications of these findings. Cole emphasizes the importance of examining the facts and encourages listeners to draw their own conclusions about the assassination.

Chapters

00:00 - The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy

02:54 - Conspiracy Theories vs. Conspiracy Inferences

05:46 - The Role of Sirhan Sirhan

11:52 - Connections to the CIA

19:05 - The Woman in the Polka Dot Dress

27:48 - Probability and Boolean Logic

33:53 - Conclusions and Implications

Duration:: 44m
Broadcast on:: 02 Dec 2024
Audio Format:: other

Hey guys, for this episode, I'm going to discuss the Robert F. Kennedy assassination on June 5th, 1968, and in particular, I'm going to kind of talk with you and discuss with you whether it was a lone gunman, sir, answer in, or whether there was a larger set of people involved in the actual killing of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. And to discuss this, I'm going to talk about two different concepts. What is the difference between an inference based upon, of a conspiracy based upon facts that we all agree are true or not true and the difference between that and a quote unquote conspiracy theory as it's identified in the media as a way to kind of denigrate critiques that are actually have some merit because, and as part of this discussion, we're going to discuss the definition of a conspiracy, what it is in law, and then, and then by it through this particular case of Robert F. Kennedy and his assassination on June 5th, 1968, at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, I had made the determination that based upon a review of the show, history's mysteries, that it was a conspiracy, that the CIA was involved and that it is something that we need to look deeper in. And by the way, the person that also agrees with me is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., he has adopted this theory in whole. And before you think that I've totally gone off of the deep end here, oh my God, you're just a conspiracy theorist. What I want you to do is I want you to actually listen to the facts that are presented in the documentary and that I've subsequently confirmed with an internet search, and I'm not necessarily going to say that this is perfect, but I just want you to just stay with me here in terms of the facts that we know, and I'd welcome any of you. If you can find some facts that rebut the underlying facts that I'm going to lay out showing that the CIA was involved, I'd be happy to hear those facts. And those would undermine my confidence that, in fact, the CIA was involved in the murder of Robert F. Kennedy, Sr. on June 5th, 1968. So first off, a little bit about this show, History's Mysteries, I had never actually seen this particular show. I think it's on the History Channel, and it was Saturday afternoon, and my daughter was sick. She didn't really feel so good, so we just decided to watch History's Mysteries, and then we watched one on the JFK assassination, and, of course, that was pretty interesting. There are various theories that were developed, but I made you a separate episode on that. We also watched one on the RFK assassination on June 5th, 1968. And I would just ask you to just listen in to the facts as they are presented. And if these facts are all true, then I would say, in my view, it's basically a statistical guarantee that the CIA was involved, and I'll explain why it has to do with something called Boolean logic, and coupling that with statistics. I'm not actually going to do the calculation with you, but I'm going to explain the concept. So Boolean logic will establish that the CIA was involved. Yes. I'm going to make that claim. So tune in. So let's talk a little bit about the underlying event itself, and then we'll get into why I think actually the CIA was involved based upon the underlying facts that were presented, and then some Boolean logic and probability. June 5th, 1968, let's go back to that particular timeframe. Robert F. Kennedy had only been running for president for a couple of months. For a long time, he had held off on deciding to run because there was this guy named Lyndon Baines Johnson, who for a long time actually had been very popular in the United States based upon his domestic policies. He obviously starts to take some heat in the late 60s because of his policy on Vietnam, RFK, and LBJ absolutely did. Instead one another, finally, RFK threw his hat in the ring, and in terms of the sequence, I don't remember whether RFK threw his hat in the ring after LBJ decided that he wasn't going to run. I think it may have been like a week or two before, and that was kind of the final nail in the coffin for LBJ, Lyndon Baines Johnson, who he wasn't going to run for the presidency. RFK did some campaigning, did family sleep well, believe in West Virginia and then Wisconsin, but then in June of 1968, he actually won the California primary. This was a huge event, and then he gave his famous speech at the Ambassador Hotel in downtown Los Angeles, where he gave the victory sign. He then left the podium, walked back through a kind of the back room, and I believe it was kind of a hit-in slash commissary area, and the shots broke out, multiple shots broke out. Several people in the crowd were hit, several people saw Sirhan Sirhan with a gun in his hand, and they saw him shooting in the direction of RFK Jr., and he afterwards, he confessed, and I think during trial, he said that he had been planning to kill Kennedy for like 20 years, and that he had malice before thought. So it seems like an absolute slam dunk case. Yet, the documentary goes through some facts, and here I just want you to just stay with me here and listen to the facts, and then we'll talk about the concept of the conspiracy inference versus a conspiracy theory. What does this conspiracy inference and what's a conspiracy theory? So here are the underlying facts of the criminal investigation after RFK Jr. was assassinated, and it was a case in which the starting point is after the one saw Sirhan Sirhan with a gun in his hand, pointing his 22 caliber gun towards RFK, all the bullets were accounted for, and RFK Jr. was actually assassinated, several other people were hit, and Sirhan Sirhan confessed. During the trial, his lawyer didn't even argue that he didn't do it, he just argued that he was fricking insane, and therefore had diminished capacity, and there's some form you shouldn't go to the death, that chamber. During, so let's start with the autopsy, and just take this in sequence, the autopsy by a guy named Dr. Hummus Naguchi determined that the fatal shot occurred from behind, RFK Jr's right ear. Everyone that identified the position of Sirhan, Sirhan, Sirhan as in front of him and shooting towards RFK Jr, and there were some other body shots that did hit RFK, but the fatal shot was actually a head shot that entered in through his right ear, as determined by the autopsy by Dr. Robert Naguchi, that you would say, well, okay, that isn't necessarily proof CIA involvement, what the hell are you talking about? Well, who was the guy, the other, one of the few other people in the room that was standing behind RFK Jr, was a security guard named Thane Eugene Caesar. He also had a 30-act Feliber gun on that evening, which was different than the caliber of the bolts that were used, which was a 22-caliber gun. So right there, you're like, oh, you're fricking crazy. He admitted he had a 38, he didn't have a 22-caliber, they were 22-caliber bolts that were used and Sirhan, Sirhan, Sirhan, Sirhan, used 22-caliber bullets, so you're fricking nuts, that's not true. So here's where we start getting into the connections to the CIA. Thane Eugene Caesar just happened to start working as a security guard for this particular security company, just a week before this particular event, and this was his second assignment. He said, well, what does that prove? Well, it just so happens that Thane Eugene Caesar worked as a security guard for a defense contractor, Lockheed Martin, which was the whole of the U-2 spy plane, with a high-level clearance from the Department of Defense. A week before the assassination, he took a part-time job working as a security guard for Ace Guard Service. Candy was assassinated on Caesar's second assignment. So here, I think at this point, your antenna has to be up. One of the odds that a guy with a high-level security clearance with Lockheed Martin would take a job as a part-time security guard for Ace Guard Service. What are the odds that that would be the case? And remember, the U-2 spy plane was directly connected to the CIA. So you're like, well, okay, the odds are probably pretty low. What? So what? What are you saying that any time someone worked for the CIA or worked for a defense contractor that can't make extra money and take a side job at Ace Guard Service? And the other thing I want to tell you is Ace Guard Service. That sounds like kind of a fake name, but I don't have any evidence related to that. But you say, okay, well, that can just happen. Okay, it gets better. And by the way, let me just summarize here. Fane Eugene Caesar was standing in a location that is consistent with the autopsies finding that the fatal shot occurred from behind Robert F. Kennedy senior. So his location is absolutely consistent. Everyone agrees that that's where his location was from right behind R-R-N-K and that's consistent with the autopsy finding. So you're like, I'm still, I just, I don't, that's not enough. So like Cole, that's not enough. But tune in. Because later on is revealed that someone else who had worked for a security firm, a guy named John Meyer was a high level Howard Hughes executive and an associate of a guy named Robert Mehu. Who the hell is Robert Mehu? Okay. And how is he connected to this particular R-R-K assassination? Robert Mehu just happened to be the guy. And everyone agrees, by the way, that this is true, that work for the CIA in assassination plots and other covert activities in the 1960s and this occurred in the 1960s. So Robert Mehu has been identified as the likely planner of the event in question. Well, how the hell is he connected to Thane Eugene Caesar? Well, it just so happens that Robert Mehu had a security firm that Thane Eugene Caesar worked for. So one of the odds that a guy working for a security service had previously worked for Lockheed Martin and also worked for a security firm that was run by Robert Mehu that just happened to be in the location right behind R-R-K, which again is consistent with the finding that the fatal shot occurred from behind that. Okay. So this isn't really enough for you. It's like, okay, we'll call there can still be these random constellations. And I took a liberal arts class on conspiracies and call your going off the deep end. That's just you looking for meaning. You're just searching for meaning. And you're still not a private person. Okay. All right. Well, fine. But listen to me out here. Listen out here. Another interesting piece of this case is that there was a woman who had a clear view of just prior to the shooting of Sir Han Sir Han next to a woman in a polka dot rest. And this woman clearly saw Sir Han Sir Han and this woman in the polka dot dress. And I think she had said that she had heard the woman in the polka dot dress say we killed R-F-K or something like that to say, well, what does this have to do with CIA involvement? Well, it also turns out that this woman would clearly seen that there was a woman in the polka dot dress with Sir Han Sir Han close in time to the actual murder itself. She later retracted her story early on. She was extremely confident of it afterwards. She wasn't so confident of it. So what would you think? Like, why would that be the case? Well, it turns out that the reason why she retracted her initial claim was is after she had been interrogated by the Los Angeles police department and let me share with you two of the officers that were involved in this interrogation of this woman who had clearly seen Sir Han Sir Han and a woman in a polka dot dress. They were two officers Enrique Hernandez and Manuel Peña. These particular officers of the L-A-P-D had told her that she didn't see what she had just seen. And you would never do that type of interrogation today because you're shading the back in the essence, telling them what she saw wasn't true. So she retracted it. She didn't reaffirm a story until 20 years later. Well, it just so happens that Enrique Hernandez and Manuel Peña also had CIA involvement and in particular were actively involved in training missions in South America in the 1960s. Okay, so you'd say, well, why does this have anything to do with the CIA? And why so, so what? I mean, they just happened to have this connection to the CIA. It doesn't mean anything. Well, why was this woman in the polka dot dress so important? One of the people that was involved in the, she had close proximity to Sir Han Sir Han. One of the theories was that you, essentially, have you guys seen war and identity, right? One of the theories of this was is that Sir Han Sir Han had actually been trained by the CIA for purposes of being an assassin, or at least being involved in assassination plots. And there was mind control that was done in connection with this particular assassination. And he forgot a lot of it. They're doing a whole bunch of experiments with LSD, mind control, range programming where you'd be able to engage in certain activities and not be able to remember it. And the theory was this woman in the polka dot dress had triggered Sir Han Sir Han to engage in this shooting spree. Now you're like, oh my God, you're totally off the deep end. Oh, well, it just so happens that at some point, the woman in the polka dot dress was actually identified and this woman was identified as a person married to a guy, or at least affiliated with a guy who happened to be involved in the MK ultra program by the CIA. So what would the odds of that be that? And several women had seen a woman in a polka dot dress that night. Now many of you know that MK ultra is a real program. It was in the 50s and 60s, and it did have this fascination with mind control for purposes of assassination, dark covert activities. Very similar to what is described in the born identity series, assassins that lose their memory and lose who they are and then recover that type thing. That's real. So these are just a couple of the actual links to the CIA. But now let's talk about Boolean logic and doing a probability assessment based upon Boolean logic. So I've talked a lot about odds. So let's compare like events in sequence, like what would be the odds of something just kind of randomly occurring based upon a random constellation of facts that are in sequence. So for example, if you've taken any probability classes and you have a dice, you can predict the odds of how likely you're able to see steak eyes. Now in reality, it's not quite that neat, but you can make actuaries make probability assessments based upon the likelihood of an event happening and then a likelihood of an event happening in sequence. So and what is Boolean logic where if you, if you basically say, if this and this and this, then what, and then you can like multiply the probability of each one of those things together for purposes of actually calculating probability. So just cure me out here. So what are the odds of the following things to occur in sequence, all at the same time, just randomly and then juxtapose it will the facts that we actually know in connection with the RFK assassination. So first off, we have the finding of the autopsy report indicating that RFK junior was shot behind the right ear. The guy behind RFK was a guy named Ben Eugene Caesar. So what are the odds that typically a security guard would have security clearance with Lockheed Martin, which would have authorized him to participate in all covert activities within the United States? Just let's stop there. One of the odds that a security guard typically would have that level of security clearance working as a part time security guard for a security services. One of the odds for that, my guess is relatively low, but that standing alone is not enough. I mean, shit happens. There are some random things that happen that you just can't believe it happens. There was one time where I was reading a book on Vince Lombardi's favorite Bible verse. And then for my daily devotional, I opened up the book and Vince Lombardi's favorite Bible verse on my daily devotional happened to be the feature for that day. So there are these random occurrences that can happen. I attribute them to kind of synchronicity and I just, one of the joys of life when these things happen. So it would be extremely low that a security guard would have a clearance for Lockheed Martin or that someone, unless they had like been caught, you know, like boinking the boss or something that they would get a part time job when they're working for Lockheed Martin. What are the odds? Very, very low. And again, this thing Eugene Caesar isn't just anyone. Here's the guy standing behind Kennedy in close proximity to Sir Hans Sirhan. So what are the odds of that? Very, very low. What are the odds that he would work for a security contractor run by Robert Matthew? Robert Matthew was the guy that organized various CIA plots, including the plot to Gidil Hill, Fidel Castro, among others. One of the colleagues of Robert made you, this guy named John Meyer, knew that Thane Eugene Caesar was employed by Matthew's private security firm that performed top secret activities for the CIA. So here, let's just take this in sequence. I don't know, it's not clear to me exactly when Thane Eugene Caesar was working for the security firm or if a secure, I don't think a security was, although who the hell knows, my guess is a security sounds like kind of a made up name, but I have no facts related to this. But Matthew's former associate does think that Matthew was the one that planned this thing. Mayhew, what are the odds that Thane Eugene Caesar, the person that was behind him, one had previously worked for Lockheed Martin and had top security clearance. Number one, number two, that he had also worked for Mayhew's private security firm that performed activities for the CIA. What are the odds of that? What are the odds that the officers that were investigating the RFK assessment, the assassination, and were the ones that were central to talking this woman out of what she had seen related to the woman in the polka dot dress, also had CIA connections and were actually involved and wreaking Hernandez and Manuel Peña at least according to this documentary involved in South American CIA training activities and operations in that area. Then what are the odds that the woman who was seen in the polka dot dress was subsequently identified as being married to a guy or at least in a relationship with a guy who was connected to MK Ultra with the CIA. So let's just stop back a minute and a minute and do the calculation here. I'm not actually going to do the calculation, but hopefully if you're an axe where you can do this. We have security guard who's behind in the position to actually conduct the fatal shot as determined by the autopsy. Now notice the autopsy doesn't determine who, it just determine where the bullet entered. So here we know the bullet entered through the Kennedy's right ear and that was the fatal shot. Mayhew was behind Kennedy and in a position to be able to do it. What are those odds? Mayhew worked for a private security firm that had top level clearance and previously worked for Lockheed Martin and top level clearance to do stuff for the CIA. Number two, he also had a new James Caesar also had worked for Robert Mayhew's security firm who was also involved in Castro plots. The officers that were involved in the investigation, they themselves that talked this woman out of what she had just seen related to the polka dot dress, they were also related to the CIA. And by the way, how do we know they actually walked her out of this? We have the tapes. Those tapes were eventually released. We have the tapes. We've heard the interview and they directly said, if you care about RFK and his memory, you wouldn't say these things are true. What are those odds? By the way, another interesting footnote. The lawyer that was involved in the case, I probably would have argued the same thing. I mean, who would have known at that time how how devious the CIA was also had mob connections and the thought process was, get him a attorney, point him, argue, diminish capacity, boom, you're done. And you don't have to worry about Sir Hans Sirhan identifying anyone else. So what are what are those particular odds related to that? The other interesting part of this is that what are the odds that you would also have and the woman in the polka dot dress just happened to be connected to these CIA in relationship with a guy who was part of the MK ultra program in sequence one and two and three and four and multiply those together. What are the odds of those just things randomly occurring? It's exceedingly low when you're talking about occurrence of randomly events. If you were to ask someone to bet on this, no one would take those bets as just sort of randomly occurring. And here's where we get into the difference between an inference of a conspiracy based upon agreed upon facts and a conspiracy theory as it's manifested in the media and then just a legal definition of a conspiracy. Let's just talk about that first. A legal definition of a conspiracy is two or more people acting together to achieve an illegal purpose. That's it. You went and you knew of this group and you entered it and you knew that there was no legal purpose. That's it. That's the definition of a conspiracy under criminal law. A conspiracy theory as reported to the media is just we just walk around and just random make random associations because we have a desire to believe and we get hurt and we want to construct meaning in our lives. And so we just make these random associations because we want to believe we just can't believe that JFK was shot by a lone government. We have this desire to believe but we all know that JFK is just killed by, you know, if we're looking at told rational facts, it's just conspiracy theories. But the other interesting thing is, is that's not necessarily the case. So before you push back on me, just ask, answer the following question. If you find and you agree with me and you do your own research and you agree that all of those facts are true, that the autopsy said that the fatal shot occurred from behind the candidate, not in front, which was everyone agrees where Serhan Serhan was, but they knew and they knew Gene Caesar worked for a defense contractor had high level security clearance and just happened to start working at working about a week, working about a week before. Second assignment, number three, he had also previously worked for Robert Mayhew who was involved in the CIA and assassination plots to kill Castro. Number four, the officers that were involved in the investigation that talked and eyewitness out of reporting what she had actually seen were also connected to CIA training activities in South America. And number five, once this woman is subsequently identified, she's connected to a guy from the MK ultra program for the CIA. Now, if you consider me to be now, can I at least make an inference, okay, can I at least develop a working hypothesis that the CIA may have been involved. The other interesting thing is, is that when they described Serhan Serhan after the shooting, he looked like he, his eyeballs were extremely diluted. He looked like he was in a trance and he said things like, I had malice of Thorhot for before Thorhot for at least 20 years, now you would say Serhan Serhan is still alive, right? So he has tried to, of course, his lawyers have figured this out too, and they've realized that it could be helpful if in fact he was actually controlled by this CIA and he was engaged in rain programming. What's Serhan Serhan's version? He doesn't remember. It wouldn't be to his advantage to say, you know what, Dan straight, I was actually trained by the CIA, I remember how I was drugged, I remember what the woman in the polka dot dress, I remember all of these things, but he asked no memory and that's what he's reported. That's what he's consistently reported. So I would kind of put the shoe on the other foot is if you're really thinking that there's no such there's never been two or more people acting in the federal government that may be trying to achieve an illegal end, I got a word for you, it's called the whole bowl. You're a conspiracy gullible list that you accept whatever the government says, hook line and sinker. Of course, there have been at various times two or more people acting in illegally to achieve an illegal purpose while working for the federal government. Of course, that's true. You don't think that are are you saying that that's never happened? Number one, and you know, the other interesting thing that I think we've learned with the CIA, I think we've all known and and it's a public record that they've always done this in other countries, right, they've done this in Cuba. They did this in Guatemala in 1954. They did it in Iran in 1953. For one of Greece, Chile, and in the early 70s, there's all sorts of action. They've been timed at chapel civil instructions structures in other countries. Are we really so gullible to think that they've never tried the same thing here with elements of the American government that they don't like? Is that really what we're saying that they've acted purely here, but everywhere else they've been engaged in the various plots. I think you would be a conspiracy gullibleist. You're gullible. And you know, again, I think for this and for this particular episode that was on this history, mystery, and it's the July 2024, so I think it's like season five. If you had hula, you could watch this for yourself. They lay out all of these facts and these facts are all very compelling. So what I would say is if we can determine factually that all of those facts are true, that we've talked about from start to finish in connection with the CIA, if all of those facts are true, then can we infer that the CIA at least might be a candidate for investigation? Or am I just wildly a conspiracy theorist related to this? Well, with your response to be that, well, both will just random associations and they just happen to occur and pull, you're just striving for meaning. Okay, that's fair enough. But before you do that, I wish you could refute the underlying facts. Oh, the other interesting thing with Fane Eugene Caesar is that Fane Eugene Caesar led to Philippines. And RFK Jr. kind of held off on publicly refusing until after he died. But he fled to the Philippines refused to talk to anyone about it. At one point, RFK Jr. tried to talk to him and he demanded $25,000 before RFK Jr. would be able to talk to him. So he kind of just buttoned up related to that as far as I could tell. So these are just kind of very interesting kind of machinations based upon this particular documentary. Of course, I encourage you to make your own conclusions related to this. I don't think that this is insane to say that there may have been a CIA involvement. And when you at least agree that that's exceedingly unlikely, that the guy who was in close proximity behind RFK when he was shot, that's consistent with the autopsy that happened to be connected to Lockheed Martin and have a security clearance and also happened to have worked for Robert Mayhew, who was a CIA operative who was involved in the assassination on to kill. Casserole, isn't that kind of strange? And that the woman in the polka dot dress and again, the theory here is that she was the one that kind of instigated probably a honey pot operation to where she probably got him late or something, but I don't know. But she also happened to be related to a guy who was involved in the MK Ultra program. Not many of you say, well, what maybe these are all just false is true. All of these things could be false. But you know, the other person who actually believes this is true, RFK, a junior, he's convinced that they Caesar was the actual killer. And now none of the other candidates have and here I just have to give them the benefit of the doubt. If you've had your uncle killed by the CIA, and I think likely, and he was JFK, your dad was killed by the CIA, wouldn't you just shot the fuck up and enjoy your millions? Because of course, the CIA doesn't like doing this. They only do this when they absolutely have to, when their power is threatened. And so it's kind of a scary time because you think about what will they do next, but the bottom line is, is that I think this is a fair inference to be raised based upon the known facts that we have, watch the documentary, make up your own minds. And no, I'm actually a conspiracy skeptic, but when you apply probability theory and you talk about facts that occur in sequence, the likelihood of those facts naturally occurring is exceedingly low as to employment by the CIA. What are the odds that someone would be a CIA employee? Not just working for the military, but just having served, I think even now, the number of people that actively serve in the military is like 1% of the population. But here we're talking about side level security clearance in the 1960s. What are the odds that someone would just have security clearance and happen to work as a security guard and happen to have had connections to Robert Mayhew, who was involved in the CIA assassination plot? What are the odds of all of those events happening in sequence? And here I would just rely upon the calculations of probability theory. I'm not actually going to do it for you, but it doesn't take long before you figure out it's very unlikely that it would occur in sequence to visit that. Then it would be exceedingly low approaching zero as a random, just as a random probability. Now, of course, if it was actually organized by elements of the CIA, then that's kind of a different question. Of course, the other interesting thing that I think we've all kind of learned about the CIA, they have all these throats, they have all these companies. When it's deep and it's dark and there's this intricate network of front human rights organizations, businesses, like the Ace Security Company. I don't know. By the way, if you're connected with the Ace Security Company, I don't know that, but doesn't that kind of sound like acne security company? I think that's the best they can come up with. Let's come up with a security company. We'll call it Ace Security Company. What are the odds? Oh, there's one other footnote that's very interesting. One of the people that would refuse and, well, actually, yeah, fame was actually carrying a 38 caliber, but the bulls that used to kill Robert S. Kennedy were plenty to caliber. He's totally wrong. Well, the other interesting footnote to that is his afterwards, Thane Caesar, was interviewed about a gun and he had said that he had sold it before the Kennedy assassination. And later on, a bill of sale was actually produced that he had sold a 22 caliber and gun about four months after the RFK assassination. So I would love to have someone who believes that this is both reach out and say, yeah, I totally disagree with you. And it turns out all these facts are false. If all of those facts are false, then I take away this assessment. But the facts that all of these participants would be in such close proximity to the CIA, I think at least allows us to make an inference of a conspiracy based upon known facts, connecting it to the CIA. I don't think this is wild. I don't think this is crazy. I think this is just reasonable based upon those facts agree or disagree. Reach out. I would love to have someone come on that actually can refute all these connections and turns out they're actually all false, but in fact, you know, maybe these assertions are false, but my source for this information is this documentary, which was narrated by Lawrence Fishburne. There was another, there's a website, you can check it out for yourself. It's called Justice for RFK and you can see it online too, so you can all include the link in the show notes to that. So I hope you found this particular episode interesting because my pet peeves is like, of course, there are times when we can at least raise an inference that there are dark forces in the federal government. And this particular instance, it makes total sense that they were involved. Now I made to a second follow up one on the JFK assassination. And here is not a conspiracy here, and you got to like about that. It's like you just making random thought associations with no known facts. You make these inferences based upon known facts. We can disagree about the facts, but let's establish those facts at you. And once we actually establish those facts as true, it at least allows us a hypothesis for further investigation based upon those known facts. And I think that's perfectly reasonable based upon the scientific method, just general knowledge. We all learn as an undergraduate. So that's it for this episode of the Rockneycast. I think I'm going to redo an episode. I did one on I seen it in Fox News, but I made a few, and I was a little rambling, you know, some of the episodes can be rambling. So I'm going to redo that one. I seen it on Fox News, and that's going to be a theory as to what the actual reason we voted for Trump. And it wasn't because I'd seen it on Fox News. And we'll continue to do a lot of good stuff in health and wellness, spirituality, really get movie that I'm going to be watching called on Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Eric Metaxas. 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